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                   HEROES AT HOME: IMPROVING SERVICES
                   FOR VETERANS AND THEIR CAREGIVERS

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                             JOINT HEARING

                               BEFORE THE

                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                                AND THE

                     COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS


                             SECOND SESSION

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                             WASHINGTON, DC

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                              JUNE 5, 2024

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                           Serial No. 118-20

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

              ROBERT P. CASEY, JR., Pennsylvania, Chairman

KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York      MIKE BRAUN, Indiana
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut      TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts      MARCO RUBIO, Florida
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  RICK SCOTT, Florida
RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia             J.D. VANCE, Ohio
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania         PETE RICKETTS, Nebraska
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               Elizabeth Letter, Majority Staff Director
                Matthew Sommer, Minority Staff Director

                 SENATE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

                      JON TESTER Montana, Chairman

PATTY MURRAY, Washington             JERRY MORAN, Kansas, Ranking 
BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont                 Member
SHERROD BROWN, Ohio                  JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut      BILL CASSIDY, Louisiana
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii              MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia       THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
MARGARET WOOD HASSAN, New Hampshire  MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee
ANGUS S. KING, JR., Maine            KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
                                     TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
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                      TONY McCLAIN, Staff Director
               DAVID SHEARMAN, Republican Staff Director
                        
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Opening Statement of Senator Robert P. Casey, Jr., Chairman, 
  Special Committee on Aging.....................................     1
Opening Statement of Senator Jon Tester, Chairman, Committee on 
  Veterans' Affairs..............................................     3
Opening Statement of Senator Rick Scott, Special Committee on 
  Aging..........................................................     4
Opening Statement of Senator Jerry Moran, Ranking Member, 
  Committee on Veterans' Affairs.................................     5

                           PANEL OF WITNESSES

Peter Townsend PA-C Emeritus, Veteran and Self Advocate, 
  Susquehanna, Pennsylvania......................................     7
Hannah Nieskens, Caregiver of Post-9/11 Veteran, Cardwell, 
  Montana........................................................     9
Andrea Sawyer, National Advocacy Director, Quality-of-Life 
  Foundation's Wounded Veteran Family Care Program, Winston-
  Salem, North Carolina..........................................    11
Fred Sganga MPH, FACHE, LNHA, Legislative Director, National 
  Association of State Veterans Homes, Long Island, New York.....    13
Meredith Beck, National Policy Director, Elizabeth Dole 
  Foundation, Washington, D.C....................................    14

                                APPENDIX
                           Opening Statements

Opening Statement of Senator Mike Braun, Ranking Member..........    44

                      Prepared Witness Statements

Peter Townsend PA-C Emeritus, Veteran and Self Advocate, 
  Susquehanna, Pennsylvania......................................    47
Hannah Nieskens, Caregiver of Post-9/11 Veteran, Cardwell, 
  Montana........................................................    49
Andrea Sawyer, National Advocacy Director, Quality-of-Life 
  Foundation's Wounded Veteran Family Care Program, Winston-
  Salem, North Carolina..........................................    53
Fred Sganga MPH, FACHE, LNHA, Legislative Director, National 
  Association of State Veterans Homes, Long Island, New York.....    62
Meredith Beck, National Policy Director, Elizabeth Dole 
  Foundation, Washington, D.C....................................    68

                        Questions for the Record

Peter Townsend PA-C Emeritus, Veteran and Self Advocate, 
  Susquehanna, Pennsylvania......................................    74
Hannah Nieskens, Caregiver of Post-9/11 Veteran, Cardwell, 
  Montana........................................................    75
Andrea Sawyer, National Advocacy Director, Quality-of-Life 
  Foundation's Wounded Veteran Family Care Program, Winston-
  Salem, North Carolina..........................................    76
Fred Sganga MPH, FACHE, LNHA, Legislative Director, National 
  Association of State Veterans Homes, Long Island, New York.....    80
Meredith Beck, National Policy Director, Elizabeth Dole 
  Foundation, Washington, D.C....................................    81
                    
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                       Statements for the Record

The Alzheimer's Association and Alzheimer's Impact Movement (AIM) 
  Testimony......................................................    84
Jack Evans Testimony.............................................    86
Jacob Johnson Testimony..........................................    87
Jerry Hromisin Testimony.........................................    90
Mark Rosensteel Testimony........................................    91
Rob Grier Testimony..............................................    93

 
                   HEROES AT HOME: IMPROVING SERVICES
                   FOR VETERANS AND THEIR CAREGIVERS

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                        Wednesday, June 5, 2024

                                        U.S. Senate
                                Special Committee on Aging,
                             Committee on Veterans' Affairs
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:01 a.m., Room 
50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Robert P. Casey, Jr., 
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senator Casey, Tester, Murray, Brown, Gillibrand, 
Blumenthal, King, Hassan, Kelly, Warnock, Moran, Cassidy, Rick 
Scott, Tuberville, and Ricketts.

      OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROBERT P. CASEY. JR., 
              CHAIRMAN, SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

    The Chairman. The Senate Special Committee on Aging and 
Senate Veterans Affairs Committee will come to order.
    Welcome to our first joint hearing. This joint committee 
hearing, this Congress entitled, "Heroes at Home. Improving 
Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers." It has been more 
than a decade since the Aging Committee held a joint hearing, 
and I want to thank Senator Tester and Senator Moran for 
bringing together our two Committees today to examine the 
important issues and unique challenges faced by veterans and 
their caregivers.
    I also want to note that Senator Scott, a member of our 
Aging Committee, will be serving as the Ranking Member for the 
Aging Committee hearing today that is part of this joint 
hearing, and I am grateful for his leadership in acting and in 
that capacity.
    Our conversation today is particularly timely given that 
tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of D-Day, commemorating the 
Allied invasion of Normandy during World War II. We thank those 
service members who fought on that day, and obviously, just 
saying that doesn't convey anywhere near the depth of our 
gratitude for all that they did to save our country and to 
literally save the world.
    We, of course, extend that thanks to those who are serving 
today, all members of the Armed Forces, for the work they do 
every day protecting our Nation. Veterans and their families 
make great sacrifices to serve our country.
    Our duty as members of the Senate is to provide support to 
those who serve our country. We must provide care for those who 
return home from service with injuries, both mental and 
physical, and for those who face disease or illness later in 
life.
    Today's hearing is about the military family and paid 
caregivers who uphold this duty to provide invaluable long-term 
care to veterans. Joining us today are some of the most 
resilient people in the Nation, both our veterans and their 
caregivers, the caregivers who provide unwavering support to 
the men and women who served in the Armed Forces.
    I have said this before, we cannot claim to be the greatest 
country in the world if we do not have the greatest caregiving 
in the world, and that includes supporting the military 
families and their paid caregivers. Military caregivers come in 
many different forms, spouses, family, friends, neighbors, and 
paid workers.
    The majority, actually more than 96 percent of those 
caregivers, are women, and we will hear from our witnesses 
today that caring for a loved one can place a significant 
physical, emotional, and financial stress on the veteran, the 
caregiver, and family members.
    Additional challenges for caregivers include navigating the 
VA system, applying for programs, and finding other resources. 
We will hear today from Peter Townsend, who comes to us from 
Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania.
    He is joined by his wife and caregiver, Lisa, and we will 
hear from them about the needs and the experience of being a 
care recipient, and what that care means to his continued 
quality of life and health. long-term care is intended to 
provide supports and services to help people live independently 
and as safely as possible in the setting of their choice.
    Caregiving services may include, of course, help with 
activities of daily living, managing medications, 
transportation, and so much more. The VA offers a wide range of 
long-term care programs, providing a model of how to honor the 
desires of those who want to continue living independently in 
their homes and in their communities.
    For example, many veterans rely on VA respite care so 
caregivers can take a much needed time off for themselves or 
home health aide services to help them in their homes while the 
VA offers options and supports for veterans and their 
caregivers, we will hear from our witnesses today that we must 
do an awful lot more.
    We must strengthen the long-term care supports that are 
currently available and help more caregivers access these 
services. That is why I am proud to support bipartisan and 
bicameral legislation to expand veterans' access to long-term 
care services and supports through the Elizabeth Dole Home Care 
Act.
    I want to thank my colleagues, Senator Tester, Senator 
Moran, and Senator Hassan for leading on this important effort. 
The VA's Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family 
Caregivers, known as PCAFC, is an important support for family 
caregivers. It has, however, had challenges over the past 
decades.
    As the program has been reconfigured, too many veterans and 
their caregivers have been denied benefits. This is not a new 
problem. In 2017, the Senate Aging Committee held a hearing on 
military caregivers.
    During that hearing, two of my constituents, Wanda and 
Samuel Ickes, discussed how the VA pushed them out of the 
Family Caregivers Program. In response to those concerns, I 
released a report on the program entitled, Discharged and 
Denied. My report found that the VA failed to anticipate the 
need of the caregivers' program, then abruptly discharged 
thousands of veterans, all without oversight or a clear appeals 
process.
    Now that veterans of all eras are eligible for the Family 
Caregivers Program, the VA must, must not repeat its earlier 
mistakes. The VA should act swiftly to ensure the program 
benefits every single family it was meant to serve.
    With the recent patch and passage in implementation of the 
Pact Act, we have seen the largest health care and benefits 
expansion in the VA's history. The Pact Act expanded access to 
health care for veterans who experienced toxic exposures in the 
Vietnam Gulf War and post 9/11 eras, which has now helped grant 
one million claims to veterans.
    We need to make sure the VA has the resources it needs to 
support these newly enrolled veterans and their caregivers, and 
finally, we need to make sure the VA's resources are accessible 
to those who are designed to serve.
    As Chairman of this Committee, the Aging Committee, I have 
pushed to make the VA make its websites and technology 
accessible for people with disabilities, including injured 
service members, as required by law.
    I am pleased that the VA has made progress, but more work 
remains to be done. I am working with Senator Scott to pass 
Senate Bill 2516, the Veterans Accessibility Act, which will 
require the VA to establish a Veterans Advisory Committee on 
equal access to evaluate the VA's compliance with all, all 
Federal disability laws.
    I want to thank Senator Scott for your support on the 
Veterans Accessibility Act and to the Dole Foundation for 
endorsing the bill but thank you for that. We have our work cut 
out for us, obviously. We need to uphold our duty, and it is 
our duty, to support our veterans and their families.
    We need to make sure the programs designed to serve them 
are working as intended, and we need to make sure VA resources 
are accessible. We need to take our lessons learned from the VA 
to ensure that all who provide long-term care support and 
services, whether they are military or civilian, family members 
or direct care workers, we need to make sure that these 
individuals are valued and are compensated for their work.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today about 
their essential work and how Congress, and especially the 
Senate, can better support our Nation's military caregivers and 
their family.
    Before I turn to Chairman Tester, I am going to run out 
because I have to go to Judiciary Committee to introduce a 
judge for a brief period of time, and I will be running back. I 
will miss Chairman Tester's opening, but I will make sure that 
I tune into C-Span to see it.
    Thank you. Chairman Tester.

      OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JON TESTER, CHAIRMAN, 
                 COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

    Chairman Tester. We will miss you for a few minutes. Thank 
you, Chairman Casey. I want to thank Senator Scott for being 
here from the Aging Committee, for jointly convening this 
important hearing with the Veterans Affairs Committee to 
discuss veterans' caregivers.
    Look, over the years, I have worked with leadership of 
these Committees on several important initiatives related to 
career givers, including the Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act with 
Ranking Member Moran and Chairman Casey, and the Care Act with 
Ranking Member Braun. Today, we hope to get additional feedback 
and direction from our witnesses to guide these and future 
efforts.
    I want to thank all the witnesses for being here. You are 
critically important in this process. I especially want to 
welcome Hannah Nieskens. Sorry about that, Hannah. She is from 
the metropolis of Cardwell, Montana. Hannah cares for her 
husband, Kelly, who was injured while serving in the Montana 
Army National Guard back in 2005.
    That means she has been Kelly's primary caregiver for 
nearly 20 years, while raising three kids and working at the 
White Hall School District. Hannah, I want to thank you for 
everything you do.
    You are an inspiration to the folks on this side of the 
dais. Our caregivers do their jobs every single day, providing 
critical care and support to veterans when they need it most, 
but for them to get the support assistance they truly need, 
Congress needs to do its job.
    I want to note--I would like to note that the House is 
currently deliberating the path forward on a package of bills 
negotiated by the Senate and House Veterans Affairs Committee, 
named the Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans Health Care and 
Benefits Improvement Act.
    This is comprehensive legislation that would expand access 
to home and community-based care programs for veterans, and 
bolster home health care staffing, attempts to strengthen the 
VA caregiver and long-term care programs.
    I look forward to getting this piece of legislation done by 
working with the Dole Foundation, who has been a long-time 
champion of these issues and this legislation. I look forward 
to working with the veterans service organizations to finally 
get this over the finish line on behalf of our Nation's 
caregivers.
    Why? Because our veterans have earned this. With that I am 
going to turn it over to Senator Scott for his remarks.

           OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR RICK SCOTT, 
                   SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

    Senator Rick Scott. Thank you, Chairman Tester. Good 
morning. I would like to thank everyone for being here today 
and want to welcome you all to this historic joint meeting of 
the Senate Aging and Veteran Affairs Committees.
    I want to thank Chairman Casey and Tester, as well as 
Ranking Members Braun and Moran, for having this hearing today. 
It is an honor to stand in for Ranking Member Braun today, 
especially on an issue so personal to me and my family and 
millions of Americans nationwide. I would like to put in 
Senator Braun's, Ranking Member Braun's testimony into the 
record.
    Senator Tester. Without objection.
    Senator Rick Scott. This hearing is an important 
opportunity to hear about some key issues affecting veterans 
receiving care and their caregivers as they age. As a Navy 
veteran, the son of a World War II veteran, I know firsthand 
the sacrifices made by our military members and their families. 
I think about my dad, Orba.
    He had a sixth-grade education and joined the Army as a 
teenager, fought in the Battle of the Bulge and did all combat 
jumps in World War II with the 82nd Airborne. He flew into 
Normandy that morning. He didn't talk about service a lot, but 
he was so proud to be in the U.S. Army--proud to wear the 
uniform and defend our freedoms.
    He told me the Germans were bad, the food was bad, the 
foxholes were bad, so I joined the Navy. None of the 
opportunities and freedoms we have as Americans would be 
possible without the dedicated services of our brave heroes 
like my father and those who have served.
    That is why throughout my time as Governor of Florida, I 
made it my mission to turn our State into the most active-duty 
military and veteran friendly State in the Nation by championed 
important legislation and funding to support priorities that 
matter most to Floridians, Florida's active duty military and 
veterans families.
    Fighting for our heroes continues to be one of our top 
priorities as a U.S. Senator. I always do everything I can to 
support our veterans and their families so they can succeed and 
pursue their dreams in our State.
    I am proud to be a co-sponsor and supporter of dozens of 
veterans related bills in the Senate, including the Elizabeth 
Dole Home Care Act, the Major Richard Starr Act, and the Pact 
Act. Our veterans showed up for our Nation and sacrificed so 
much.
    It is so important that we show up, support them after 
their service, and make sure they have every resource they 
need. It is also imperative today to recognize the critical 
role played by our country's 5.5 million military caregivers, 
who range from spouses, parents, children, friends, and family 
members, who dedicate their lives and often give up so much to 
care for those who serve our country.
    I have the greatest honor of serving as United States 
Senator and representing our veterans, honorable caregivers, 
hardworking Florida families, and their American people. Thank 
you, Chairman Tester.
    Chairman Tester. Senator Moran.

   OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JERRY MORAN, RANKING MEMBER, 
                 COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

    Senator Moran. Chairman, thank you. I thank you and the 
Ranking Member, Senator Scott, for leading this hearing today, 
and I welcome our witnesses and look forward to their 
testimony.
    Caregivers who are often overlooked and forgotten simply 
have a profound impact on our Nation's veterans. They are 
invaluable in making certain that veterans with even the most 
complex conditions receive the care and dignity that they 
deserve.
    It is disheartening to hear too frequently from dedicated 
caregivers in Kansas and elsewhere about the numerous obstacles 
they face in dealing with the Department of Veterans Affairs. I 
have heard from caregivers who were denied services from the VA 
Family Caregivers Program for vague reasons, and in some cases, 
were only given a one sentence explanation.
    In far too many cases--and a lot of what I know about this 
is what veterans and their caregivers tell me, and what 
casework we do in our office to try to solve those problems. 
Far too often in these cases, the VA is failing to provide 
families with a clear, detailed explanation of how to appeal a 
VA decision, or what other VA programs and services they might 
be eligible for.
    This leaves the caregiver and veteran alike in limbo, 
uncertain how to get the support they so desperately need. 
Congress expanded the Family Caregiver program to veterans of 
all ages in the Mission Act, which was signed into law six 
years ago tomorrow.
    While I expect there to be growing pains, that is to be 
expected when the VA is implementing new legislation, it is 
always disappointing to hear that the Expanded Family Caregiver 
Program is not in a better place than it is today.
    As we continue to wait for the VA to issue new regulations, 
I look forward to hearing from our witnesses about the Family 
Caregiver Program, how it must evolve to provide caregivers and 
veterans the support they need. I introduced the Elizabeth Dole 
Home Care Act, which would address the needs of veterans, 
caregivers, and their families.
    This legislation, if implemented correctly, would make it 
easier for veterans to stay at home as they age by expanding 
and improving the VA's home and community-based programs. 
Almost half of VA patient population is over 65, and we know an 
increasing number of those veterans want to live at home, 
surrounded by their families, in their communities, and loved 
ones, rather than the transition into a nursing home.
    VA should honor veterans' preferences when, where, and how 
to receive care. I also look forward to discussing how Congress 
and the VA can better support state veteran homes, which play a 
critical role in caring for veterans across the country. We 
have two in our State, and we are trying to develop a third, 
and the process we are going through to accomplish that third 
one is amazingly slow.
    Again, thanks to our witnesses, and to my colleagues on the 
Aging and Veterans Affairs Committees, for being here today, 
and with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield.
    Senator Tester. I want to thank both of you and Congressman 
Scott for your testimony. What?
    Senator Murray. Senator.
    Senator Tester. Oh, it is Senator--you didn't. You skipped 
that, as I did. Thank you very much, Senator Scott. Sorry about 
that. I am going to introduce the first witness today, and then 
we will introduce the second ones before they come up to speak.
    The first witness is from Casey Country. His name is Peter 
Townsend. He is from Auburn Township in the great State of 
Pennsylvania. Mr. Townsend served in the United States Army on 
active duty from 1982 to 1986. He later worked as a physician 
assistant until early retirement in 2014.
    Sorry, Bobby, I am taking your thunder. In 2014, due to 
complications from primary progressive multiple sclerosis. He 
is accompanied by his wife Lisa who serves as his full-time 
caregiver. I want to thank you both for being here today, and 
unless Bob has something you would like to add, you can 
progress with your testimony, Mr. Townsend.

      STATEMENT OF PETER TOWNSEND PA-C EMERITUS, VETERAN 
          AND SELF ADVOCATE, SUSQUEHANNA, PENNSYLVANIA

    Mr. Townsend. Thank you. Chairmans Casey and Tester, 
Ranking Members Braun and Moran, and distinguished members of 
the Committees, thank you for the opportunity to speak with you 
today regarding my experiences with caregiver support services 
available through the VA.
    My name is Peter Townsend, and I am currently 60 years old 
and live in Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania with my wife Lisa, 
who is also my caregiver. I served on active duty in the United 
States Army from 1982 to 1986.
    Following my discharge in 1986, I went on to work for over 
two decades as a physician assistant before retiring 
prematurely due to complications of multiple sclerosis. As my 
disease progressed, I began to experience significant 
difficulties with mobility, fatigue, cognition, and bowel and 
bladder dysfunction, among others.
    Today, I rely upon a power wheelchair when out in the 
community and a walker to ambulate for short distances at home. 
Through conversations with fellow veterans, I learned that MS 
was a medical condition that the VA recognized as a service-
connected disease, and with the assistance of Paralyzed 
Veterans of America, of which I am a member, I was able to 
successfully file a claim and am now rated 100 percent service 
disabled due to MS. As my symptoms progressed, I began to rely 
more on the assistance of my wife, Lisa. My MS can vary 
dramatically.
    Although most days are good days where I can function 
fairly independently, when I have a flare or exacerbation, I 
can become temporarily incapacitated. During these times, I 
rely very heavily upon Lisa for assistance with a variety of 
activities to include intermittent catheterization, transfers, 
toileting, personal hygiene, dressing, and meal preparation. I 
have had no fewer than three of these episodes already this 
year.
    Prior to leaving the workforce, Lisa had been working as a 
case manager for Keystone Community Resources. Eventually, as 
my condition deteriorated, Lisa decided to retire early from 
her position at age 61 to be, or to become my full-time 
caregiver.
    Around this time, primarily through a process of self-
education and online resources, we learned of the VA's Program 
of Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers, the PCAFC. 
We applied when eligibility open to veterans of all service 
areas in October 2022. Unfortunately, our application was 
denied.
    As I understand it, we were denied due to the VA's 
determination that I did not require assistance with the 
performance of certain activities of daily living each time 
that activity was performed, or that the level of assistance 
did not "rise to the level required to participate in the 
PCAFC."
    This strict interpretation of the eligibility criteria by 
the VA is of particular concern to veterans like myself with 
medical conditions whose symptoms are highly variable and 
unpredictable. Lisa was eventually enrolled into the Program of 
General Caregiver Support Services, the PGCS.
    However, this transition to the PGCS was not automatic, and 
we went for some time thinking we were enrolled in the general 
program, although we were not. One of the most valuable 
benefits of the Program of Comprehensive Assistance is the 
availability of medical insurance coverage for caregivers 
through the Civilian Health and Medical Program of the 
Department of Veterans Affairs, CHAMPVA.
    CHAMPVA was the only way that we could afford for Lisa to 
retire early. Lisa qualified for coverage due to my permanent 
and total disability rating, so we did not have to rely upon 
the PCAFC for this benefit.
    The Program of General Caregiver Support Services offers 
fewer benefits than the PCAFC, but one significant benefit it 
does offer is respite care. We utilize this benefit when Lisa 
underwent surgery.
    Staff at the Wilkes-Barre VA arranged for me to be admitted 
to the Community Living Center for three weeks while Lisa 
recovered from her surgery. Lisa knew that regardless of what 
was happening with my health, I was being cared for so that she 
could focus on her recovery.
    I can't emphasize enough how important this valuable--I 
should say the valuable--how valuable the respite care benefit 
was to our family, and it is comforting to know that it will be 
there if we need it again in the future.
    Throughout this journey, our goal has been to create an 
environment that allows me to live in our home as long as 
possible, and to avoid the need for long-term care. 
Participation in VA's caregiver programs helps us to achieve 
that goal.
    The reality is that my current level of disability is such 
that I am no longer able to live independently and would 
require placement in an assisted living facility were it not 
for Lisa's efforts. I would like to make it clear that Lisa and 
I remain very grateful for all the benefits that we have 
received and continue to receive.
    To show my gratitude, I currently serve as a Redcoat 
Ambassador at the Wilkes-Barre VA Medical Center. By 
volunteering, I can help other veterans connect to and navigate 
services more seamlessly and give back to the organization that 
has done so much for me.
    The system is not perfect, however, and there will always 
be room for improvement. I encourage the Committees to work 
with the VA to one, ensure a more seamless transition to the 
PGCS following denial of the PCAFC. Two, to better communicate 
resources and benefits available to veterans, and three, value 
the work of caregivers by passing legislation which would give 
Social Security credit to caregivers who have left the 
workforce prematurely to care for their loved ones.
    I thank you for this opportunity to share our experiences 
and look forward to answering any questions that you may have.
    The Chairman. Mr. Townsend, thanks for your testimony. We 
are grateful that you are here. I will turn next to Chairman 
Tester for his introduction, and then we will alternate. Why 
don't we do the introductions first, and then we will turn to 
our next witness for testimony. Chairman Tester.
    Chairman Tester. Our next witness is Hannah Nieskens. 
Hannah is, as I said in my opening statement, joining us from 
Cardwell, Montana. One of the most beautiful places on Earth, I 
might add.
    Her husband sustained traumatic brain injury while serving 
in Iraq, and she serves as his caregiver full-time. She is an 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation alumna and is an advocate and 
spokesperson about mental health issues associated with brain 
injuries.
    I just want to say, Hannah, it is not a short trip from 
Montana to Washington, DC, and thank you for being here.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Chairman Tester. Our third witness 
is Andrea Sawyer. Andrea is an advocacy navigator for the 
Quality of Life Foundation's Wounded Veteran Family Care 
Program.
    After her husband sustained injuries in Iraq, she became 
his caregiver and an advocate for those other wounded warrior 
families. We want to thank you for being here today and sharing 
your experiences with us.
    I will turn next to Ranking Member Scott, I guess I can 
call you that today, for the next introduction.
    Senator Rick Scott. I have the privilege of introducing 
Fred Sganga, the Executive Director of the Long Island State 
Veterans Home at Stony Brook University, a 350-bed skilled 
nursing facility serving honorably discharged veterans and 
their families.
    Fred also serves as the first Vice President for the 
National Association of State Veterans Homes, as a Board Member 
of the National Council of Certified Dementia Practitioners. 
Thanks for being here.
    The Chairman. Our fourth and final witness is Ms. Meredith 
Beck. Meredith is the National Policy Director for the 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation. She has dedicated over 20 years to 
the veteran caregiver in military communities.
    We appreciate you being with us today. We will turn for 
testimony to Ms. Nieskens.

          STATEMENT OF HANNAH NIESKENS, CAREGIVER OF 
              POST-9/11 VETERAN, CARDWELL, MONTANA

    Ms. Nieskens. Chairman Casey and Tester, Ranking Members 
Moran and Scott, and distinguished members of the Committee, 
thank you for allowing me to testify today. My name is Hannah 
Nieskens and I have been married to my husband, Kelly, for 20 
years.
    For 18 and a half of those years, I have also been his 
caregiver. In 2005, Kelly was a 23-year-old Montana Guardsman 
activated to Army infantrymen deployed to forward Operating 
Base McHenry in Hawija, Iraq.
    On May 4th, 2005, during a routine patrol, Kelly's Humvee 
was struck by a large IED. This explosion, the fifth roadside 
bomb to hit his vehicle since his arrival in November, left the 
Humvee disabled in an 11-foot wide crater and knocked the squad 
members, including Kelly, unconscious.
    Upon regaining consciousness and exiting the vehicle, they 
came under heavy sniper fire. Kelly was struck by a large 
caliber rifle round that traveled through his ribs, hit his 
armored plates, and ricocheted multiple times through his torso 
before lodging near his spine. He survived thanks to the 
extraordinary efforts of medics, doctors, and the E-VAC team.
    Upon returning to civilian life, Kelly faced numerous 
physical limitations. He had mobility issues caused by 
traumatically herniated discs, as well as nerve damage, pain, 
and neurogenic bowels caused by scar tissue around his spine 
and intestines. He suffered from migraines, seizures, and 
hearing loss. His cognitive impairments, including problems 
with executive functioning, memory deficits, and mood 
dysregulation also posed significant challenges.
    In 2016, after a decade of limited success with medications 
prescribed to treat PTSD, an MRI performed through UCLA's 
Operation Mend Program revealed 12 lesions on Kelly's brain, 
some as large as a dime, confirming a significant TBI for which 
both proper treatment and benefits had been delayed.
    Throughout the past 12 years, the VA's Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers, the PCAFC, has 
been an invaluable resource for me as I navigated the 
complexities of Kelly's care and providing me training and 
support. In 2021, we were subjected to a grueling reassessment 
process for PCAFC eligibility.
    During a nearly two-hour virtual appointment with a 
contracted occupational therapist, Kelly and I had to painfully 
recount every limitation he faces. I had to quantify everything 
I do as a caregiver, which after two decades of caregiving is 
difficult when those caregiving tasks are so integrated into 
our daily life.
    The resulting report was incomplete and inaccurate, missing 
critical information and VA disability ratings. Despite efforts 
by the VA staff and me to correct these errors before review, 
not all were corrected. The reassessment outcome was that 
Kelly, and I did not meet eligibility criteria, and I was 
dismissed from the program.
    The decision highlighted several issues. Significant 
discrepancies exist between the Veterans Benefits 
Administration and Veterans Health Administration records, 
leading to incomplete or incorrect ratings in disability 
information submitted in reassessment reports.
    For example, Kelly's VBA rated disability of status post 
through and through gunshot wound injury coded with VBA 
diagnostic code for muscle injuries due to wounds caused by 
gunshots or other missiles was recorded in his VHA records as 
superficial scars and back muscle impairment, as there was no 
equivalent diagnostic code in the VHA medical record system.
    His VBA rating for neurogenic bowl was recorded in the VHA 
system as irritable colon. Perhaps more importantly, his 70 
percent rating for his TBI was completely missing in the VHA 
record as a rated service-connected disability.
    The reassessment process placed undue emotional strain and 
stress on us, and I believe reassessment should occur only when 
a veteran's needs change significantly. Additionally, veterans 
with specific VBA ratings such as incompetency, aid in 
attendance, those should have presumptive eligibility for 
caregiving.
    It was also apparent that veterans with stable needs, or 
those receiving private care, were disadvantaged in 
reassessments due to fewer VHA medical records in the months 
preceding the evaluation.
    Stable needs does not equate to insignificant needs. 
Furthermore, veterans who reside in areas with limited access 
to specialists, such as where we reside in rural Montana, were 
penalized due to access issues as they do not receive routine, 
comprehensive evaluations involving multiple specialists.
    This May marked 19 years since Kelly's injury. Over these 
years, I have learned that aging significantly amplifies the 
challenges faced by people with disabilities. Withdrawing 
support for disabled veterans with high needs and their 
caregivers is incomprehensible.
    As the brain and body age, the need for consistent and 
comprehensive care for our veterans only intensifies. Removing 
caregivers from PCAFC could lead them to seek more expensive 
care options for their veterans, including home health aides 
through Medicare or the VA Programs.
    Utilizing home health aides instead of caregivers 
exacerbates the significant nationwide shortage of home health 
aides. In addition, the availability of home health aides, 
especially in rural areas like our small Montana town which has 
a population of 68, is none too few.
    Thank you for allowing me to share my story and the 
challenges we face. I appreciate your commitment to improving 
the lives of veterans and their caregivers. I am happy to 
answer any questions you may have.
    The Chairman. Ms. Nieskens, thank you for being here with 
us today, and thanks for traveling to be here. It is a long 
distance and grateful to have the benefit of your family's 
story. Next, Ms. Sawyer.

         STATEMENT OF ANDREA SAWYER, NATIONAL ADVOCACY

             DIRECTOR, QUALITY-OF-LIFE FOUNDATION'S

              WOUNDED VETERAN FAMILY CARE PROGRAM,

                 WINSTON-SALEM, NORTH CAROLINA

    Ms. Sawyer. Chairman Tester and Casey, Ranking Members 
Moran and Scott, and members of the Committee, thank you for 
holding this hearing.
    I am the Advocacy Director for the Quality of Life 
Foundation which serves caregivers of the seriously injured 
veterans. We create educational resources surrounding PCAFC and 
are one of the few organizations that assist with clinical 
appeals for PCAFC. Over the years, legislation and policy 
surrounding caregivers has evolved.
    The original legislation created the Caregiver Support 
Program for post 9/11 Veterans. Post 9/11 Veterans accepted 
into PCAFC under this regulation are called legacy caregivers. 
The Mission Act of 2018 expanded eligibility to PCAFC to 
veterans of previous generations. The VA drafted new 
regulations in 2020.
    By March 2022, there was a high denial rate for eligible 
applicants from previous generations, around 70 percent, and 
legacy review denials were around 80 percent. VA paused legacy 
reassessments in March 2022.
    Since then, VACO has rewritten the regulation, but no new 
regulation has been published. After the March 2022 SVAC 
hearing on PCAFC, VACO held collaborative sessions with VSOs to 
discuss what we saw as the problems with the regulation.
    However, in the fall of 2022, the VA Office of General 
Counsel stopped these conversations and declared VA within the 
confines of rulemaking. Since that time, VSOs have been given 
no guidance on what will be in the new regulation for the 
program.
    We ask the Committees to work with VA and stakeholder 
organizations on the following items. Congress needs to clarify 
that the mission of PCAFC is to recognize the sacrifice of 
caregivers providing services for their seriously injured 
veterans.
    Services so that in the absence of a family caregiver, 
would be required to be provided by the VA. Remind VA that the 
Caregiver Support Program was intended for the seriously 
injured, not the severely injured.
    Codify the activities of daily living, and supervision 
protection and instruction needs should only require regular 
assistance so that veterans are not denied PCAFC for attempting 
any level of independence within the areas in which they need 
assistance.
    Require that all veterans medical providers give input on a 
veteran's application for PCAFC, and remove the language in the 
statute that states, to the maximum extent possible, when 
requiring such input.
    Require VHA to honor its duty to assist, to collect outside 
medical records. Create a pathway to advocacy to require VA to 
develop a program to allow VSOs to navigate the Veterans Health 
Administration on behalf of veterans and caregivers.
    Mandate that those veterans and caregivers needing 
additional assistance beyond PCAFC are allowed to be presented 
with all of their potential options for care. All of these 
items are in the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans 
Health Care and Benefits Improvement Act, as well as listed 
between, the Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act and Senator Tester's 
Care Act.
    Examine caregivers' financial security for post caregiving. 
Senate Bill 3885, the Veteran Caregiver Reeducation, 
Reemployment, and Retirement Act would create pathways for 
caregivers to reenter the workplace and study, allowing them to 
contribute to retirement accounts and Social Security so that 
they are not destitute in their later years.
    When testifying before Congress, then VA Secretary Shulkin 
said that VA wanted to change PCAFC to align it with other VA 
programs. One lawmaker at a time responded, I am concerned that 
the VA may attempt to justify changes to the program at the 
expense of our most vulnerable veterans, rather than working to 
expand the program. This is exactly what has happened.
    VA made the cheaper to run PCAFC harder to get into than 
the more expensive geriatrics and extended care programs. A 
PCAFC caregiver is paid between $8.60 an hour to $13.86 an 
hour. VA reimbursement rates for home health aides ranged from 
$31 an hour to $81 an hour.
    We are simply asking you to restore PCAFC to one that 
supports seriously injured veterans who have a need for 
assistance on a regular basis. Allowing family caregivers to 
supply this care in the home has proven to have better health 
outcomes for veterans, as well as cost savings for the 
government.
    By passing the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans 
Health Care and Benefits Improvement Act, and the Veteran 
Caregiver Reeducation, Reemployment, and Retirement Act, 
Congress would reinforce support of veterans and their family 
caregivers, and veterans' desire to age in place at home.
    Veterans have given their all to defend America. Shouldn't 
we honor their right to age in place, at home, with the 
caregivers of their choice? The Quality of Life Foundation 
thanks you for holding this hearing, and we look forward to 
answering any questions you may have.
    The Chairman. Ms. Sawyer, thank you for your testimony. We 
are grateful you are here. Next, Mr. Sganga.

           STATEMENT OF FRED SGANGA MPH, FACHE, LNHA,

         LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF

          STATE VETERANS HOMES, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK

    Mr. Sganga. Chairman Casey and Tester, Ranking Members 
Scott and Moran, and members of the Committees, thank you for 
inviting the National Association of State Veterans Homes, 
better known as NASVH, to testify on ways to improve and expand 
support for aging veterans and their caregivers.
    As you know, NASVH is an all-volunteer organization 
representing the interests of all 165 state veterans homes, 
which combined operate 158 skilled nursing care programs, 47 
domiciliary programs, three adult day health care, or ADHC 
programs.
    I am currently the Legislative Officer and past President 
of NASVH. However, my full-time job as Executive Director of 
the Long Island State Veterans Home at Stony Brook University, 
a 340 bed skilled nursing facility serving honorably discharged 
veterans and their families.
    Mr. Chairman, state veterans homes provide approximately 
half of all federally supported institutional long-term care 
for veterans, yet we receive less than 20 percent of the VA's 
total nursing home care budget. It is clear that the State Home 
Partnership provides a tremendous value for VA by leveraging 
matching State funding for the benefit of all the veterans we 
serve.
    Although the veteran population is projected to decline in 
future years, there will always be significant numbers of 
veterans who will need traditional nursing home care. While we 
agree that VA should continue to expand home and community-
based care, it should be an in addition to not a subtraction 
from facility based care.
    One of the most promising areas to expand home based care 
is through the stay-at-home adult day health care programs, 
which helps to maximize the veteran's independence and enhance 
their quality of life, as well as provide much needed respite 
for the family caregivers.
    The Long Island State Veterans Home operates a 40-slot 
medical model adult day health care program serving 75 
veterans, six days a week, Monday through Saturday. We provide 
them with a full array of clinical services offered at our 
skilled nursing facility, including physical, occupational, and 
speech therapies, nutritional counseling, meals, recreational 
therapy, as well as things like bathing, grooming, and hair 
care.
    We help stabilize chronic medical conditions, reduce 
emergency room visits and potential hospitalizations, delay or 
prevent nursing home placement, and provide significant respite 
for caregivers. In fact, we can save a caregiver multiple trips 
it would take to provide all the services that we are able to 
provide in one single visit at the state veterans Home.
    Adult day health care programs can be a critical lifeline 
for both veterans and their caregivers, such as Colonel Mike 
Grable and his wife, Jeannine. After graduating West Point and 
having a 27-year military career, Mike had a severe stroke, and 
for the next two years he required hospital care.
    He faced the knowledge that he would need significant 
physical therapy and extensive support for the rest of his 
life. Fortunately, we were able to offer Mike the option of 
enrolling in our adult day health care program at the Long 
Island State Veterans Home.
    Today, he receives the intensive care and support he 
requires five days a week, while Jeannine, his spouse, was able 
to return to work as a school nurse, secured in the knowledge 
that her loved one is in good hands during the day and returns 
home to her every evening.
    Mr. Chairman, the biggest obstacle to States opening new 
adult day health care programs is the construction or 
modification of a facility. Unfortunately, current VA 
regulations only allow existing adult day health care programs 
to apply for construction grants.
    We urge Congress to enact legislation to allow State homes' 
construction grant program to be used to open new adult day 
health care programs. In addition, we urge you to work with VA 
so we can open satellite adult day health care programs that 
could offer life changing service as an option to thousands of 
additional veterans and their family caregivers.
    NASVH also recommends that Congress create pilot programs 
to explore new arrangements for providing integrated home and 
community-based programs through and in partnership with the 
state Veterans Home Program.
    For example, when I was forced to suspend my adult health 
care program during the COVID-19 pandemic, we were able to 
quickly pivot to an innovative program that supported veterans 
at home by providing meals at home, PPE, telehealth, and home 
care visits.
    Finally, I want to thank Senators Tester and Moran for 
introducing legislation to create a pilot program to provide 
assisted living care for veterans, which includes state 
veterans homes. Mr. Chairman, state veterans homes can and must 
play a greater role in meeting the needs of aging veterans and 
their caregivers in partnership with the VA and other Federal 
agencies.
    NASVH looks forward to continuing to work with you to 
ensure that our veterans have greater access to a full spectrum 
of long-term care options, whether at home or in the State 
Veterans Home Program.
    That concludes my statement, and I would be pleased to 
answer any and all questions that the members of the Committees 
may have. Thank you so much.
    The Chairman. Mr. Sganga, thank you for your testimony. We 
will conclude with Ms. Beck.

       STATEMENT OF MEREDITH BECK, NATIONAL POLICY DIREC-
        TOR, ELIZABETH DOLE FOUNDATION, WASHINGTON, D.C.

    Ms. Beck. Thank you. Chairman Casey and Tester, Ranking 
Members Scott and Moran, and members of the Committee, thank 
you for the opportunity to testify today.
    My name is Meredith Beck, and I am the Senior Policy 
Advisor for the Elizabeth Dole Foundation, a national nonprofit 
whose mission it is to strengthen, empower, and support 
America's military and veteran caregivers.
    By working with these individuals every day, EDF is keenly 
aware of the challenges, issues, and remarkable strengths of 
the community we are honored to serve. While we have outlined 
additional issues for consideration here in our written 
testimony, we first want to focus on the urgency of the passage 
of H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans 
Health Care and Benefits Improvement Act, mentioned previously.
    Clearly and without hesitation, the number one priority of 
the Elizabeth Dole Foundation is the immediate passage of this 
legislation. It is not an exaggeration to say that we hear from 
veterans and caregivers every day who are desperate for the 
support provided by the provisions in this bill.
    Every day we wait, their struggle continues. I will speak 
more about this legislation later in the statement. Regarding 
VA's Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers, 
it remains a significant concern among all generations of 
veteran caregivers.
    We wish to strongly align ourselves with the comments and 
recommendations made by our partner, the Quality of Life 
Foundation, who has clearly articulated the program's current 
challenges in their written testimony.
    EDF is a proud--is proud to sponsor the vital specialized 
clinical appeals work done by QoL. With respect to the 
anticipated PCAFC regulations outlining new eligibility 
requirements, EDF notes that the legacy caregiver cohort yet 
again faces an uncertain future.
    Many of these caregivers have endured multiple pauses, 
regulation and leadership changes, and a lack of previous 
program standardization. The emotional toil and financial 
uncertainty caused by programmatic instability have weighed 
heavily on caregivers and veterans alike, as outlined by 
Hannah.
    Therefore, EDF asked Congress to work with relevant veteran 
service organizations to consider grandfathering this 
population, except in cases of fraud, waste, or abuse. This 
would allow the Caregiver Support Program to focus on its 
mission of supporting all generations, rather than continuing 
this years? long division within the veteran caregiving 
community.
    We would like to commend CSP for their efforts to increase 
the use of respite services and the availability of mental 
health support for veteran caregivers enrolled in PCAFC. This 
has served as a lifeline for many who have previously struggle 
without access to care. Therefore, we encourage Congress to 
broaden access to mental health services to include those 
enrolled in the Program of General Caregiver Support Services.
    In addition to CSP, VA has many programs that, when 
accessed, benefit veteran caregivers. Where available, the 
Veteran Directed Program, for example, has high satisfaction 
rates across the country.
    Unfortunately, despite being created more than 16 years ago 
and its demonstrated success, Veteran Directed is still not 
available in every VA medical center. For example, Mary Ward, a 
Dole caregiver fellow, cares for Tom, her 100 percent service 
disabled husband and 14 year ALS patient who receives care at 
the Durham VA.
    In 2019, almost five years ago, Mary found out another high 
need veteran in the area was enrolled in Veteran Directed and 
began the process of trying to get Tom enrolled. During the 
intervening years, she has been told repeatedly the program is 
still unavailable in Durham, again, despite knowing another 
veteran in the program.
    After significant effort on Mary's part, an intervention 
from EDF, the VA reversed course and Mary was told recently 
that they would try to enroll Tom. If enrolled, Mary will be 
able to hire her own familiar home health aides and respite 
care support to ensure they are meeting Tom's significant 
needs.
    This process should not and cannot be this difficult for 
veterans and caregivers. As a result of situations like Mary's 
and Tom's. Ranking Member Moran was joined by Chairman Tester 
and others to introduce S. 141, the Elizabeth Dole Home Care 
Act.
    In addition to mandating that every VA medical center 
provide the Veteran Directed Program, the legislation takes a 
holistic approach to ensuring this and other relevant programs 
are offered nationwide are appropriately staffed and 
communicate it to caregivers.
    Most notably, the legislation increases expenditure cap for 
non-institutional care. This would allow the most vulnerable 
veterans and caregivers the support they need to stay in their 
homes. Fellow Laura Gary, from Austin, Texas, who is present 
today in this hearing, cared for her 100 percent service-
disabled husband Tom until his death in 2022.
    Because of the mandated cap, Laura constantly had to fight 
with the VA to get the appropriate support so Tom could 
continue to enjoy movie nights with the family, opening gifts 
on Christmas morning, and even their son's high school 
graduation, which happened in their living room so that Tom 
could attend comfortably, all of which he would have missed if 
you were in the closest facility two hours away.
    It was Tom's greatest wish to be home with his family, and 
Laura fought every day until his death to make that possible. 
Eventually, this legislation, which enjoys broad bipartisan 
support in both houses of Congress, was included in the 
recently introduced and the previously mentioned H.R. 8371.
    This overall package includes numerous provisions designed 
to benefit veterans and caregivers. Despite strong support from 
the Chairman and Ranking Members of the Senate Veterans Affairs 
Committee, as well as the Chairman of the House Committee, all 
major veterans service organizations, and other advocacy 
groups, this legislation has seemingly fallen victim to the 
politics of the day and has been plagued by mischaracterization 
of its provisions.
    While caregivers and veterans still face significant 
challenges today, many can be addressed through continued 
oversight and the legislative initiatives mentioned in our 
written and oral statements.
    Therefore, EDF calls on Congress to come together, treat 
H.R. 8371 with the respect and urgency it deserves, and pass it 
without delay. Veterans and caregivers simply cannot wait any 
longer for this lifesaving--and lifesaving provisions. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman, and we look forward to your questions.
    The Chairman. Ms. Beck, thank you for your testimony. Thank 
you to all of our witnesses. We will turn to questions. I will 
start.
    Mr. Townsend, I am just grateful you are here and 
representing, in essence, the people of Pennsylvania and 
veterans. We appreciate your service in the United States Army, 
and I want to thank you for sharing the experiences that you 
have had and offering insights into how you and Lisa have 
navigated VA caregiving, both services and supports.
    You shared that after an infection during an overseas tour 
in South Korea, you contracted a virus that is known to cause a 
progressive form of multiple sclerosis in some people. 
Unfortunately, you are now living with the daily challenges 
associated with MS.
    After a long battle with the VA, you were eventually deemed 
to have a 100 percent service-connected disability. Like so 
many others, you have good days and bad days. Even on your good 
days, you still require some level of assistance with your 
activities of daily living.
    You shared that you applied for the Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance to Family Caregivers and were denied. 
How did this make you feel? What were you thinking when that 
determination was made? And do you feel that the VA's 
assessment adequately considered your needs?
    Mr. Townsend. Clearly, we were disappointed when we 
received the determination. It is certainly our opinion that 
VA's current interpretation of the eligibility criteria 
eliminates many veterans like myself from participating in 
programs like the comprehensive program in particular, simply 
by not requiring assistance with certain activities of daily 
living each time that activity is performed
    I clearly think there is room for improvement, and I think 
that was summarized best by Ms. Sawyer when she recommended the 
change to requiring regular assistance rather than assistance 
every single time a veteran performs that particular activity 
of daily living.
    The Chairman. Thanks very much. I will turn next to Ms. 
Nieskens. You as well shared your own story and that of your 
husband, and the work you have done as a caregiver.
    In your testimony, you told us that professional home care 
workers are an essential part of your husband's care team and 
your support team. You also told us it is often hard to find 
and keep these workers.
    We hear about that a lot. This is a story that I hear all 
too frequently back home, and we hear it in Washington as well, 
that it really is a care crisis across the board, not just in 
this context, but in the context of children and seniors and 
veterans as well.
    I have introduced several bills to improve both recruitment 
and retention of direct care workers. These bills would benefit 
older adults and people with disabilities, and we also support 
the family caregivers who are left with little support or 
without access to the services.
    I would ask you to tell us what it means for you and your 
family when you are not able to find a home care worker. What 
steps can we take here in the Senate to make sure that a stable 
and qualified workforce is there for you and your family?
    Ms. Nieskens. Yes. The availability of home health aides is 
there is, as everyone here knows I believe, there is a 
nationwide shortage. I do believe the PCAFC helps to alleviate 
that burden by allowing family members to fill that gap when 
those HHAs aren't able to be found.
    In addition, I think it is worth mentioning that the median 
wage for a home health aide in the United States is somewhere 
between $13 and $14 an hour.
    When you consider what that requires for someone to come to 
my home, the nearest metropolitan area to Cardwell is Butte, 
Montana, which has roughly 35,000 people, so that is probably 
where the home health aide would come from.
    They would have to commute 40 miles over the continental 
divide, over a very large pass in the middle of winter to come 
to my home to provide health aide services. The likelihood of 
finding someone who is willing to do that for $13.50 an hour is 
just slim to none.
    I do believe that the PCAFC helps to alleviate those needs 
by allowing people that are already in the recipient's home or 
immediate community to fill those needs.
    The Chairman. Thanks very much. I will turn next to Senator 
Scott.
    Senator Rick Scott. Thank you, Chair. Mr. Sganga, how does 
your facility assist veterans and their caregivers when the 
veteran wants to remain in the home, but still need some 
additional support?
    Mr. Sganga. Our adult day health care program is a 
phenomenal program. It allows for the veteran to keep his or 
her own physician, whether they be with VA or whether they be 
in the private community.
    We think we do provide a tremendous service to these 
veterans six days a week. I would like to give you an example, 
Senator Scott. When the veteran is in our adult day health care 
program, it is a six-hour visit. They arrive at 9:00 a.m., and 
they depart around 3:00 p.m.. During the course of that time, 
we can get a lot done for that veteran.
    Think about someone who is caring for their elderly parent 
or grandparent who is a veteran. While they are at the home, 
they can receive phlebotomy because the doctor ordered a blood 
test.
    They can receive a simple X-ray or ultrasound. They can get 
their teeth examined and cleaned. They can get their eyes 
checked by our optometrist. They can receive podiatric care, 
and even receive physical therapy, occupational therapy, and 
speech therapy. Maybe their hearing aid needs a battery change.
    They can even get a haircut. What I just said to you, I 
just saved the caregiver about eleven trips in the community. 
That is what we tend to do in the State Veterans Home Program 
and our medical model Adult Day Health Care Program.
    We are keeping veterans out of the emergency room, avoiding 
hospitalization, and we are certainly delaying placement into 
skilled nursing facilities. Thank you.
    Senator Rick Scott. Thanks for what you do. Ms. Sawyer, 
what is the biggest challenge for caregivers in accessing 
benefits from the VA?
    Ms. Sawyer. I am going to assume you mean caregiver 
benefits, which are our actually--caregiver benefits actually 
fall on the health care side, and some of the biggest problems 
with those really have to do with the evaluation itself.
    I would tell you that the law itself doesn't have many 
problems. The regulation itself has many problems, the 
implementing regulation, and one of those problems is the 
language that VA created around each and every time with ADL 
assistance. It prevents a veteran from having--showing any 
independence at all.
    Should they be able to toilet by themselves once in the 
entire six months, that prevents them from being eligible for 
each and every--for ADL assistance, for that ADL because it 
doesn't meet the standard of each and every time. One of their 
requests has been that the regulation be changed from each and 
every time.
    However, each and every time is actually in the regulation, 
not the law, but it was upheld by the courts. Because we have 
seen VA change this regulation multiple times, we have actually 
asked that Congress codify that it be regular instruction 
instead of--instead of how it is broadly worded in the law now. 
For supervision, protection, and instruction, that standard was 
also continuous daily care.
    A lawsuit, the veteran lawyer lawsuit actually overturned 
that and created that--said that regular instruction, forced it 
back into regular instruction, which was the standard in the 
law. We would ask that that once again be codified within 
statute so that VA cannot make that change again regulatory.
    There is also a standard that VA has put in the regulation 
that in order to be the higher standard, that a veteran must be 
unable to self-sustain in the community. We ask that Congress 
make a little bit of change to that wording, even though it is 
regulatory language, because currently VA employees don't 
interpret that correctly.
    We have asked it to be evaluated multiple times and what we 
keep finding is that it continues to be the bane of everyone's 
existence to get that to that higher level of acceptance. One 
of the other problems is that folks don't know the options that 
they have available to them.
    If your family caregiver isn't able to perform those duties 
or needs assistance because let's say you are a tracked and 
vetted veteran who needs 24 hour a day care, your caregiver, it 
is impossible for them to provide 168 hours of care per week. 
The best thing to do would be to have VBC care, home health 
aide, respite care, a combination of such for those hours.
    What we have found is that there are matrixes that VA has 
in place that govern the amount of hours that you have for GEC 
programs. Then there are matrixes for the hours for PCAFC 
programs, and then there are matrixes that govern how those 
programs interact together. They, however, apply differently to 
different generations of caregivers currently, and so, it is a 
confusing maze as to what is available, and to top that all 
off, those hours differ between different VISN or regional 
medical communities within the VA.
    To go back to an earlier question for just a second, when 
someone was asking about caregiver wages, there is a mechanism 
within the VA for your local VA to request--or VISN to request 
an increase in home health care worker's reimbursement rates. 
Most VAs, however, do not know how to engage that mechanism.
    One way that you could eliminate or lower the shortage of 
home health care workers is to increase that reimbursement 
rates so that more people would be willing to take those jobs, 
and if you look at the current reimbursement rates around VA, 
in the State of Alabama, the current reimbursement rates are 
$30.50 an hour--I am so sorry.
    The Chairman. Ms. Sawyer--just wrap up on because we are 
over time. I am sorry.
    Ms. Sawyer. Yes, sorry.
    The Chairman. Senator Scott, thank you.
    Senator Rick Scott. Thank you.
    The Chairman. We will turn next to Senator Murray.
    Senator Murray. Well, thank you very much to our Chairmen 
and Ranking Members for holding this really important hearing 
today, and I appreciate the testimony from everyone. Mr. 
Townsend, I want to particularly thank you.
    Your story was my family story. My dad was a World War II 
veteran diagnosed with MS when I was a young teenager, seven 
kids in our family, and our family went through what your 
family is. I want to thank you for your service and sacrifice 
for our country.
    I want to thank Lisa for what she, I know, does every 
single day for your family as well and tell you that is why I 
have worked so hard to get the Family Caregivers Act passed 
personally because I know what so many people struggle with, 
and it is a real challenge.
    As Chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee at the time, I 
worked really hard to implement it to make sure it actually was 
in line with what our congressional intent was.
    This hearing is really important as we evaluate it now, and 
what all of you have said to us is really important. Mr. 
Townsend, you answered Senator Casey a little bit, but just 
tell me, while the VA continues its review now of this program, 
what do you think we need to particularly focus on?
    Mr. Townsend. Particularly with regard to eligibility for 
the comprehensive program. Once again, I would go back to my 
previous statement that the VA's current interpretation of the 
eligibility criteria and requiring assistance with the 
performance of activity--activities of daily living each time 
that activity is performed is unrealistic, and as a result, 
excludes a tremendous number of veterans and caregivers from 
myself, from what otherwise is a very, very valuable resource, 
a very valuable program.
    Senator Murray. Yes, I appreciate that. I totally 
understand that and that is really helpful, so again, thank 
you. Thank you for being here and sharing your story, and for 
what your family has done. I want to turn to Ms. Nieskens. Did 
I say that correctly?
    Ms. Nieskens. Nieskens.
    Senator Murray. Nieskens, thank you. Thank you for what you 
do for your husband and your family and your community and 
everything in being a care giver.
    I wanted to really ask you something that doesn't get 
talked about a lot, and that is the high level of stress and 
depression from caregivers, who I know it is especially true 
for post 9/11 caregivers. Forty percent have met criteria for 
major depressive disorder.
    That is actually twice the amount as pre 911 caregivers and 
four times the rate than that of non-caregivers. That is really 
a heartbreaking statistic and I really think it is something we 
need to focus on.
    Can you talk a little bit about what services are currently 
available for caregivers who need mental health treatment, and 
what we need to do to really address that?
    Ms. Nieskens. Yes. I agree that that is a startling 
statistic. I think, you know, that is the reported statistic, 
but in my experience just being in the caregiver community, I 
think that the rate is actually higher than that.
    One of the things that I think is so important about the 
PCAFC is the support it does provide to caregivers. There are 
community functions where they host abilities for caregivers to 
actually interact with each other to meet other caregivers, and 
that allows caregivers to feel less isolated.
    Being, you know, a caregiver at a young age, I think is 
something that most people don't expect. That greatly is in 
contrast to people who are caring for someone who is geriatric, 
and we certainly expect people of a certain age to have 
mobility needs, or supervision, protection and instruction 
needs.
    However, to have to care for someone who is in their 20's 
who has those same needs just is difficult when you are in your 
20's yourself, so that certainly is kind of something that the 
PCAFC does--you know, attempts to do is to support caregivers 
in learning how to become a caregiver and to connect with each 
other to provide educational resources.
    There is also outside foundations like Quality of Life and 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation, who also provide caregiver 
communities and resources and educational calls and so on and 
so forth for these caregivers.
    Ultimately, they are really--I guess, something that Mr. 
Townsend spoke to was the VA benefit that is allowable if you 
are a caregiver through PCAFC would be your resource for 
getting mental health therapy as a caregiver.
    If you are just in the program of general care and you do 
not have a 100 percent permanently and total disabled person, 
you do not have access to that CHAMPVA, or perhaps that 
insurance, that would allow you to seek those mental health 
therapists.
    Senator Murray. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, my time is up, but 
I just want to also mention that something that I personally 
know well is that 2.3 million children live in a household with 
a disabled veteran.
    They provide really unique challenges and responsibilities, 
and Senator Boozman and I have a bill called the Helping Heroes 
Act to help establish a new program to support kids who live 
with a disabled veteran and give them the support they need.
    I hope we all look at that as well, so thank you. Thank you 
all very much.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Murray. We will turn next 
to Senator Moran.
    Senator Moran. Chairman, thank you. For the first time that 
I know of, while we have had this joint meeting, and I would 
say that our witnesses and their testimony are among the most 
compelling of the many hearings that I have had with veteran 
issues and aging issues. Thank you. Thank you.
    I just want to comment, Mr. Sganga, that I share your view. 
President Biden's most recent--excuse me, recent budget 
submission is--requests $141 million for State Home 
Construction Grant programs. The current list of projects that 
is in waiting totals $1.2 billion.
    This request barely scratches the surface, and I now face 
this in my own State as we are waiting for new construction 
project in Northeast Kansas. I just would highlight for the 
Administration and for my colleagues, this not only delays the 
care for veterans, but puts the State who is putting money into 
this project in a difficult situation, planning and financing 
the project.
    Mr. Sganga, I am sure many of my colleagues will work to 
find further resources beyond the President's request for 
increases in funding of the State Home Construction Grant 
program. Thank you for highlighting that.
    Mr. Sganga. Thank you.
    Senator Moran. Let me ask a couple of questions. Ms. 
Sawyer, I appreciate you working closely with me and Senator 
Sinema on the Veterans Caregiver Reeducation, Reemployment, and 
Retirement Act.
    Tell me why you think and tell my colleagues why you think 
it is important for us to consider this legislation and what 
impact it would have on caregivers' community.
    Ms. Sawyer. Thank you, Senator. We appreciate your 
involvement in creating that Act. It is certainly something 
that has been a long time coming.
    Most personal living caregivers are in situations where the 
income in their home is unearned. If their veteran was injured 
and medically retired, they may receive a 100 percent permanent 
total VA pay and Social Security disability, as well as the 
PCAFC caregiver stipend. All of that income is unearned.
    That means caregivers cannot contribute to Social Security, 
nor can they contribute to any kind of retirement account. That 
leaves those caregivers in a very precarious financial State 
for when their caregiving years and they reach retirement.
    The Act, the Reeducation, Reemployment, and Retirement Act 
that you and Senator Sinema introduced would allow--would study 
whether or not caregivers would be allowed to contribute to 
Social Security and their retirement accounts--whether there 
would be a mechanism that could be created for that to take 
place.
    It would also allow caregivers who had to leave caregiving, 
either because their veteran passed or they became unable to 
care give, or their veteran recovered, or their veteran had to 
go into a State home, it would give them $1,000 per caregiver 
to renew their employment certifications that they lost due to 
caregiving, and it would also offer them returnships, which 
already exist for older Americans within the Department of 
Labor.
    If you have watched The Intern, the movie with Robert De 
Niro and Anne Hathaway, that is a returnship where Robert De 
Niro returns into the workplace. That would be the returnship 
program--we are looking at caregivers, and so, it basically, 
this bill actually creates a way to secure the financial 
security for caregivers in their later ages, because as of 
right now, there is no mechanism for them to be financially 
secure. Once their veteran passes away, they are looking at 
being financially destitute in their later years.
    Senator Moran. Ms. Sawyer, thank you for highlighting that. 
You are a more effective advocate than when I say those things, 
and I appreciate you putting this into the record for all of us 
to hear.
    Ms. Beck, please give my regards to Senator Dole. We have 
two Senators that Kansans, consider both of them Kansans, and 
both Senators used their lives post-Senate career to make a 
difference in lots of people's lives and particularly veterans. 
I will be at the Eisenhower Presidential Library tomorrow as we 
take a look at celebrating, recognizing the importance of D-Day 
and those who served.
    Certainly, Senator Bob Dole in his efforts to recognize 
World War II Veterans on the National Mall, and Senator 
Elizabeth Dole in her efforts to make sure that our veterans 
are cared for correctly, and appropriately, and fully is 
greatly appreciated in Kansas and across the country. One of 
the things that--there is times that occur in which I just 
think, how can this happen?
    How can--somebody is bringing me a problem from their 
veteran perspective and your reaction is, this can't be true. 
What is going on here? One of them is the dismissal of legacy 
participants in the caregiver program. It is on pause. We are 
all pleased about that, but would you highlight, Ms. Beck, that 
this position of being in no man's land, no person's land in 
which no answers come, and we just keep waiting?
    Ms. Beck. Senator, thank you for that question. I decided a 
long time ago that the first time--the first time I stop 
saying, why is this happening, was the first time I shouldn't 
be doing this anymore.
    I think Hannah's story probably explains it best of the 
emotional, financial uncertainty that has gone along with this 
program for that legacy cohort of caregivers. There are 
currently 14,000, approximately 14,000 individuals who are 
considered as part of that legacy cohort, and that number is 
dwindling every day due to, unfortunately, deaths, sometime 
improvement, sometimes divorce, and so, that number is not 
extraordinarily high and going down. The idea of offering 
grandfathering to that population of people would be to 
recognize that they have undergone so many different regulation 
changes, as Ms. Sawyer pointed out.
    That the program intents somehow shifted from seriously 
injured to severely injured, and there is a significant concern 
that a number of those legacy cohort who have been found 
eligible time and time again would then be removed from the 
program when the new regulations are issued, and so, in 
recognition of that, and that that was something that the 
Congress has repeatedly said it was not intended, then the idea 
of grandfathering that population and moving forward and 
allowing CSP to focus on actually supporting this population, 
rather than a divided conversation of eligibility that has gone 
on for years, would be in their best interest.
    Senator Moran. Thank you.
    Ms. Beck. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Moran. Senator Tester.
    Senator Tester. Thank you, Chairman Casey. I want to talk 
about some timelines here to flesh out the way it used to be, 
and the way it is now, and why. I am going to direct my 
questions to you, Hannah.
    I understand that the challenge here or the problem, from 
my perspective, has been that there were regulations published 
almost four years ago, July 31st, 2020, that went into effect 
October 1st of 2020.
    You have been taking care of your husband for nearly 20 
years. Can you tell me what it was like before those 
regulations went into effect?
    Ms. Nieskens. Before the regulations went into effect, I 
felt supported and I certainly felt like there was a mechanism 
within the VA where if I needed additional case management or 
support for Kelly's needs, I knew who to call and who to ask, 
and I had assurances that I would be able to navigate his care 
successfully.
    Once those regulations passed, and we were dismissed from 
the caregiver program, as Senator Moran expressed, we feel like 
we are in a purgatory situation here where we just don't know 
what the next iteration of these regulations will look like.
    Senator Tester. For further explanation, a regulation was 
put into effect October 1st of 2020. Nothing changed with your 
husband. His needs remained the same and potentially even got 
greater because they are getting older.
    Ms. Nieskens. Correct.
    Senator Tester. Yet, you were removed from the program 
because of a reassessment?
    Ms. Nieskens. That is correct.
    Senator Tester. That reassessment was required by the new 
regulation?
    Ms. Nieskens. Yes, that is correct.
    Senator Tester. Were you able to appeal that assessment?
    Ms. Nieskens. Yes. We appealed and we received a letter 
which basically stated that it was unnecessary to appeal 
because currently everything was on pause. The entire program 
was being put on pause due to----
    Senator Tester. The pause wasn't pre-regulation. The pause 
was post-regulation.
    Ms. Nieskens. Correct.
    Senator Tester. Okay. Tell me what that impact had on your 
family, the impact of losing that certainty that the Caregiver 
program gave you before October 1st of 2020.
    Ms. Nieskens. Right.
    Senator Tester. What impact did that have on your family? 
What the impact did that have on you, and your husband, and 
your children?
    Ms. Nieskens. Right. Basically it creates a large sense of 
uncertainty. What does the future look like? Because if this 
resource for all of these caregivers, including myself, is 
going away, what replaces it? I don't know. I don't have those 
answers, and so, it becomes increasingly difficult to fathom 
how to meet Kelly's needs in the future.
    Senator Tester. Financially, what would it do to you?
    Ms. Nieskens. That would mean that I would lose the 
caregiver stipend, which means that a significant portion of 
her income is simply going away.
    Senator Tester. Thank you for that. It is my understanding 
that the new regulations are there and just haven't been 
released. That is correct. I see a head nod. That is good 
enough. Thank you. I want to go over to you, Meredith. 
Appreciate your comment that we have got some really good bills 
that actually get things done and get hung up because of 
politics of the day. You are spot on, and quite frankly, it 
ain't right.
    Good policy is good policy regardless of political party 
and regardless of who is carrying it, and we ought to look at 
it from that standpoint. I want you to take a moment to 
summarize, because you are intimately familiar with the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act, and I want you to summarize and 
particularly highlight why this bill is so important for our 
Nation's caregivers.
    If you could refer it back to some of the challenges that 
Hannah just explained, that would be helpful.
    Ms. Beck. Yes, sir. Just to be clear, do you prefer the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act and the package, or just the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act? Yes, sir.
    Senator Tester. My mic works. Keep it simple.
    Ms. Beck. The Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act, as I mentioned, 
has probably most importantly for the most severely injured, 
and most ill, is the provision on removal of the cap.
    That is, we have got--I have caregivers who are watching 
right now, who are waiting every single day to ensure that they 
are able to get the services that they need in the home to keep 
the veterans that they care for in their home.
    Those are going to be the individuals who have long-term 
ALS, MS, severe traumatic brain injuries, and without that 
removal of that cap to, which everyone seems to agree including 
the VA, that they will potentially have to move to a nursing 
home because that cap prevents them from getting the care and 
services inside their home.
    Also included in the legislation is the requirement that 
Veteran Directed program be within every VA medical facility 
because that program in addition can actually help to support a 
lot of those caregivers who may not qualify for PCAFC for one 
reason or another because you are actually allowed to pay your 
family caregiver under that program.
    That is significantly helpful for those who care for an 
individual who have cognitive disabilities or mental health 
disabilities that at the moment may or may not qualify for 
PCAFC and gives them the flexibility and control of who they 
are hiring in their home because often veterans with those 
conditions don't want somebody who is unfamiliar in their home, 
and so, you are able to hire a friend or family to do that. The 
other provisions in the legislation include mandating that the 
other programs within the VA that provide those care services, 
home health aides, home based primary care are mandated to stay 
within the VA because while those are a little bit more widely 
available than Veteran Directed, as we have seen in PCAFC, 
there is a concern if it is not legislated, it can be taken 
away.
    Senator Tester. Thank you very much for that explanation 
and I appreciate all of your testimonies.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Chairman Tester. I will turn next 
to Senator Ricketts.
    Senator Ricketts. Great. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 
There are over 16.2 million veterans living in the U.S., 
including a 111,000 that are calling Nebraska home. These brave 
women and men have made great sacrifices for our country when 
they put on the uniform, and I am committed to making sure they 
have got quality benefits and care that they have earned.
    Now, that is why I introduced the Tax Cuts for Veterans 
Act. The bill would make military retirement pay tax free at 
the Federal level, just like we did it in Nebraska where we 
made tax free. Furthermore, across the country, there are more 
than 6.5 million veterans and military caregivers who provide 
$14 billion in unpaid labor for America's wounded warriors 
every year.
    Family and others who provide care for veterans spend on 
average $11,500 of their personal income in out-of-pocket 
expenses and related to the caregiving of the veterans every 
year, which is roughly about one and a half times the--higher 
than what other family caregivers spend.
    The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs offers support and 
resources for caregivers of veterans enrolled in VA health care 
through the VA caregiver support program. This program provides 
caregivers with the access to VA health benefit--or health care 
benefits, caregiver education, financial aid, mental health 
services, and up to 30 days respite care.
    Only 34 percent of veterans have used their earned benefits 
at VA healthcare. Ms. Sawyer, over 33 percent of Nebraskans 
veterans live in rural areas that can create unique challenges 
for those veterans and their caregivers.
    Do the VA caregivers' programs offer any resources that 
specifically help veterans and caregivers living in rural 
communities? If so, how do they provide support that addresses 
the unique challenges those veterans face?
    Ms. Sawyer. Thank you for the question. In rural areas, as 
with caregivers who are in urban areas and that can't get out 
of the home, there is--or there are mental health programs that 
are virtual programs that have been put in place by PCAFC. If 
you are a member of the Program of Comprehensive Assistance for 
Family Caregivers, you now have access to therapy virtually 
through that PCAFC program.
    You also have options for respite care, in-home or in 
facility, if they can find a home health aide caregiver--that 
being the concern. What I was saying earlier is in rural areas 
where it is difficult to find a home health care workers, there 
are mechanisms in place where a VA can raise that reimbursement 
rate, which would make it more attractive and possibly make 
health care workers more widely available in rural areas.
    Because, as Hannah said, trying to get someone to come 
across the continental divide for $13 an hour is rather 
daunting. In South Dakota, they have managed to raise the 
reimbursement rate to $85.05 an hour.
    Where in Alabama, it is $30.50 an hour. If your VAs are 
able to raise that reimbursement rate, you would have better 
access to those home health care workers. Also, it is difficult 
sometimes for caregivers and veterans to travel to VA 
facilities, so certainly community care makes sense.
    The concern then is, for the program of comprehensive 
assistance, is that those records need to be able to get into 
VA medical records, which is what we see is keeping people from 
being accepted into the program. It is not that there is a lack 
of a need for assistance from the--of the veteran. There is a 
lack of evidence of a need of assistance, and that is partly 
because those outside records never get into the VA, or their 
practitioners aren't asked about the specific needs of the 
veteran. What is examined in PCAFC, in that evaluation process 
is not actually ever asked about during your yearly exam.
    Your PCM never evaluates you for ADL or supervision and 
protection needs. Those are usually done by specialists, and 
most of the time you see your specialists in your community 
rather than traveling 200 miles or 400 miles, in the case of 
Hannah and her husband in Montana.
    You have to have that mechanism to get those records in. At 
Quality of Life, we actually issue a questionnaire to 
specialists that would actually document those needs and then 
have that submitted to the VA by the veteran and caregiver. One 
of those things is really getting that documentation into the 
VA.
    Senator Ricketts. Is that really relying on the veterans 
then for asking that, or is there another way to make sure that 
that kind of information can be captured when they go see those 
specialists?
    Ms. Sawyer. There is a duty to assist that that exists 
within VBA, and we have worked with Dr. Richardson and her team 
to really train her team on duty to assist within VHA.
    It would be helpful if Congress could codify duty to assist 
in the Veterans Health Administration, which would mean that if 
a veteran and caregiver identify that there are outside medical 
records that need to be obtained for the evaluation process, it 
is VA's responsibility to get those records so that they may be 
considered in that process.
    While Dr. Richardson has trained her staff to do that, it 
is by sheer force of will and leadership power that she gets 
her team to do that, but that actually doesn't necessarily 
exist within VHA itself.
    Senator Ricketts. Great. Thank you very much, Ms. Sawyer. 
Thank you, Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Ricketts. We will turn 
next to Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is an unspoken 
theme to this hearing as it has unfolded, and that is 
implementation is as important as vision. We deal in laws up 
here, but the majority of what you have been talking about 
today has been implementation of the laws.
    We can pass great laws, but if they are not adequately 
implemented, it ain't going to work, and one of the best 
examples--Mr. Sganga, you may know about this. Three and a half 
years ago, we passed a law about domiciliary care at state 
veterans homes, and we are still waiting for the regulations 
three and a half years later.
    In the meantime, our veterans homes in Maine are losing 
something like $3 million a year based upon the lack of having 
this back payment and the implementation. Tomorrow is the 
anniversary of D-Day, and I have mentioned this before in this 
Committee, I like to remind people when they tell me how long 
things are going to take, that Eisenhower retook Europe in 11 
months.
    We should not be waiting years for regulations to implement 
the laws that we pass here, so I hope that can be a theme, Mr. 
Chairman, of this Committee. Not that the VA is--they are bad 
people, or they are not--they are trying not to enforce the 
laws.
    Somehow we have to break through the delays and the sort of 
sometimes the nonsensical, such as what you endured Hannah, 
implementation. Because one of the other themes here is home 
care is, a, preferred, and b, cheaper.
    We should be encouraging it. Mr. Townsend, I presume you 
would rather be at home than in a hospital or a nursing home.
    Mr. Townsend. That is absolutely correct.
    Senator King. The care that you are receiving, even at an 
adequate reimbursement rate, is still a lot cheaper than what 
it would be in one of those institutions. Isn't that correct?
    Mr. Townsend. That is also correct, sir.
    Senator King. My mother used to use the term pennywise and 
pound foolish. I guess it must be an English term. In our case, 
it would be pennywise and dollar foolish. This is a case where 
we are nickel and dimeing on what is a much, much lower cost 
alternative. Is that not correct? This is the big picture as I 
see it. Ms. Beck.
    Ms. Beck. Yes, sir. It is--these are human beings, first of 
all, and as you said, the care in the home is causing in most 
cases better outcomes, whether better health outcomes or better 
quality of life.
    From the perspective of cost savings, the idea, as has been 
pointed out previously, that the PCAFC program has higher 
standards to get to become a part of, then the more expensive--
home health program.
    Senator King. I appreciate that. I am going to cut you off 
because----
    Ms. Beck. Yes, sir.
    Senator King [continuing]. we are out of time. I have got 
this little digital thing that tells me how many seconds I have 
left. A good--another example is, Mr. Sganga, the recent CMS 
rules about staffing ratios. HRSA indicate by next year we will 
have a 78,000-nurse shortage in this country, and yet CMS is 
issuing rules for increasing staffing when there is nobody to 
hire.
    I know in our--in Maine, we have lost--we are losing four 
nursing homes so far this year, one this week. We have lost 26 
in the last 10 years because mostly lack of staff. These well-
meaning regulations, nobody is against adequate staffing 
levels, but the well-meaning regulations will end up with less 
care if we lose nursing home beds. Mr. Sganga, do you agree?
    Mr. Sganga. Well, said, Senator King. I think it is a big 
problem and something we should be looking at nationwide. We 
think for just skilled nursing facilities alone, we are going 
to be lacking about 102,000 registered nurses and certified 
nursing assistants just to meet that----
    Senator King. Just because CMS passes a regulation doesn't 
mean those nurses are going to magically spring into existence.
    Mr. Sganga. That is correct. That is correct.
    Senator King. Let the record show that you said, well 
stated, Mr. King.
    I just want to emphasize that. This is a very serious 
problem. I mean, we are losing a caregiver--and what compounds 
is the caregivers who are staying are being burnt out because 
they are having to work so many hours.
    We really should be--CMS ought to really be talking about 
how do we surge people into this industry not requiring 
staffing levels that are going to end up with not lesser care, 
but no care for veterans and elderly people throughout the 
country.
    Mr. Sganga. Just one quick example. During the COVID-19 
pandemic, I lost 36 caregivers in a single day on September 
21st--I am sorry, September 28th, 2021, and that was due to the 
vaccine mandate. We had to think quick on our feet that the 
Long Island State Veterans Home. We came up with a new 
provider, caregiver title of unit assistant.
    These are people who are not certified nursing assistants, 
but can do many the tasks of the CNAs, with the exception of 
toileting and bathing. It was great. It worked out well for us. 
They made a little bit less than a certified nurse assistant, 
and we found plenty of people to fill this particular role.
    The sad part for us as an institution is that we got no 
credit whatsoever from CMS in terms of the payroll based 
journal and the fact that we had an alternate type of caregiver 
to provide the care, to be the hands on, to do things like 
feeding the residents, helping them get dressed, helping make 
their beds, helping transfer them around the facility.
    We were able, as a state veterans home program, to come up 
with the bodies to provide the care, but sadly, CMS did not 
recognize this kind of caregiver. When it came to those, the 
metrics of providing certain amount of providers per resident, 
they were not counted.
    Senator King. I think we move CMS out of Washington into 
Poughkeepsie or Bozeman, Montana or someplace so they know what 
is actually going on the ground. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator King. We will turn next to 
Senator Hassan.
    Senator Hassan. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
    Thanks to you and Chairman Tester, and Ranking Members 
Moran and Braun for this hearing. To all of our witnesses, not 
only thank you for being here today, but thank you for the 
extraordinary work you do in your advocacy, and not only for 
our country's veterans, but for the people who take care of our 
country's veterans. It is really important and critical work, 
obviously.
    Mr. Townsend, I just wanted to start with a question to 
you, and I want to thank you for your service in the Army, for 
your years of work as a physician's assistant, and for your 
advocacy. The recent FAA Reauthorization Act that President 
Biden signed into law included a provision that I authored that 
will expand access to universal charging stations in airport 
restrooms.
    These changing stations will provide individuals who 
experience disabilities and their caregivers with a safer and 
more dignified travel experience. I want to extend a special 
thank you to the Paralyzed Veterans of America and Disabled 
American Veterans for their support of this provision.
    They really helped get it across the finish line, but Mr. 
Townsend, can you speak to the importance of making travel more 
accessible for individuals experiencing disabilities, and how 
it helps them participate more fully?
    Mr. Townsend. With regard to travel, the primary obstacle 
that I faced since I have become a full-time wheelchair user in 
the community is the distance.
    Senator Hassan. Yes.
    Mr. Townsend. Since becoming a wheelchair user, I am 
reluctant to consider flying.
    Senator Hassan. Yes.
    Mr. Townsend. Therefore, I only travel by ground. I have 
heard the horror stories from many others about what has 
happened to their wheelchairs during travel. I can't imagine 
the frustration of getting to your destination, only to have 
essentially your legs taken away from you, so.
    Senator Hassan. No, I appreciate that, and that is another 
issue that we are working on and try to address. I just think a 
lot of people aren't aware that the lack of access to universal 
changing rooms can be a real barrier for people with 
disabilities and their caregivers.
    Ms. Beck, I want to thank you for a lot of the work of the 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation, and thank you for the Elizabeth Dole 
Home Care Act, which I am a co-sponsor. I have been very proud 
to work with you on.
    In your testimony, you touched on the financial strains 
experienced by caregivers, especially families of veterans who 
aren't associated with the VA or who have difficulty accessing 
VA programs.
    The Credit for Caring Act, which has bipartisan support, 
would help relieve some of these financial strains by providing 
tax cuts to family caregivers who also hold down another job, 
which is a pretty frequent situation. Can you discuss some of 
the financial strains that caregivers might face and how these 
costs impact them and the people who they care for?
    Ms. Beck. Sure. Thank you very much. The--essentially it 
would be two populations probably involved in that question, 
and it would be those veterans who are associated with the VA 
and those who are not.
    For veterans who are associated with the VA, there are any 
number of programs and services that could potentially 
reimburse or pay for needed supplies. However, one, as we have 
discussed earlier, accessing information about that, knowing 
about that, having the time to be able to do that is incredibly 
difficult, so veterans and caregivers often pay out of pocket, 
even if they are associated with the VA for sometimes for 
especially--something as large as specially adapted housing 
modifications or something as small as Tylenol, Advil, a gauze, 
anything else along those lines.
    Outside--for those not affiliated with the VA, they would 
obviously be then responsible for those out-of-pocket expenses 
writ large, and so, we are very much strong supporters of S. 
3702, that Credit for Caring Act because of those out-of-pocket 
expenses that they have to pay for.
    Senator Hassan. Well, I appreciate that. I also just want 
to note that there are caregivers who work part time jobs as 
opposed to full-time job, so they are earning less as they are 
also trying to take on this additional work and these 
additional expenses.
    Last question, and it is for you again, Ms. Beck. It is 
really important that we obviously support people with 
disabilities in their homes and for being as independent as 
they can be, and we have talked a lot today about the workforce 
shortage here.
    We face a shortage of professionals who provide critical 
services for individuals with disabilities, including direct 
support professionals who can assist with communication, daily 
tasks, provide job support, and respite to family caregivers.
    My colleagues and I have been working to make sure we have 
the information we need to support these professionals in the 
work they do. Most recently getting DOL to adopt a job category 
for direct support professionals so we can actually track how 
many of them we have. I just want my colleagues to know how 
important these people are. I have an adult son with severe 
disabilities.
    We have been blessed with a direct support professional 
who's been with him 35 of his 36 years, and it has just been 
extraordinary. These are people who are creative, hardworking, 
make a huge difference, can provide respite care, and can help 
people be independent.
    Ms. Beck, what else can Congress do to strengthen support 
services for people with disabilities and the caregiving 
workforce?
    Ms. Beck. One, thank you for that legislation because we 
have all talked about the shortage issues, and we can't do 
anything about it until you actually have data that shows where 
they are and what is necessary. Increasing those reimbursement 
rates, as has been mentioned.
    You know, a lot of these people will do this out of the 
goodness of their hearts, but there are a lot of people who--
most people are going to need to be employed and paid at an 
adequate rate in order to provide the service that is 
necessary.
    The reimbursement rates, as was mentioned earlier with 
the--especially within the Department of Veterans Affairs and 
the varying knowledge of the mechanisms by which you can 
increase those reimbursement rates.
    Because while certainly the Elizabeth Dole Foundation is 
supporting family caregivers, they also rely on those direct 
support professionals in order to provide the services that you 
mentioned, and so, this workforce is incredibly important to us 
as we are trying to make sure that everyone has the services 
they need in order to stay in their homes.
    Senator Hassan. Thank you very much. Thank you for your 
indulgence, Mr. Chair.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Hassan. Next, Senator 
Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all our witnesses for being here today. My first questions for 
Ms. Sawyer.
    Ms. Sawyer, one of the most sacred promises that our 
country makes is to care for our servicemembers when they 
return home, and I am committed to making sure that our country 
keeps these promises, and that includes ensuring that our 
veterans' family caregivers have the support they need to care 
for their loved ones. I have heard from Arizona veteran 
families that they were removed from the Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers during the 
expansion rollout.
    They had previously qualified, in some cases for years, for 
this program. While I am glad that the VA has suspended the 
reassessments and the discharges for legacy participants, I am 
troubled that some of the folks who are disqualified still do 
not have an expedited appeals process.
    This is an important issue that is impacting Arizona's 
veterans and also their families. I have continued to urge the 
VA to fix this. Ms. Sawyer, could you please share your 
experience with the changes to this program, the program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers.
    Ms. Sawyer. Thank you, Senator. In the beginning, when the 
program was first created, the only appeals that were available 
were clinical appeals, and they were governed under VA's 
regular clinical appeal guidance.
    When the new regulations were written for the Mission Act 
in 2020, those appeals, clinical appeals shifted to the 
centralized eligibility assessment team that was created. With 
the Beaudette court decision, it opened up multiple avenue--
more avenues for appeal.
    The VA was--VHA was forced to create supplemental claims, 
higher level review claims, which all occur under VHA, and then 
there was an avenue opened up for Board of Veterans appeals 
claims.
    None of those had existed prior to the Beaudette case. 
Also, because decisions had been governed under regular 
clinical appeals, clinical appeals in the VA did not--do not 
require justification. They simply can be listed as approved or 
denied.
    In the--with the Beaudette decision, VA did undertake an 
effort to do an eight-point letter so now we know----
    Senator Kelly. Can you describe what the Beaudette decision 
was?
    Ms. Sawyer. Sure. The Beaudette decision was a court 
decision that basically said--where basically a veteran and his 
spouse sued the VA to say, you said we weren't eligible for the 
program, but we don't really know why because the letter that 
you sent us doesn't tell us why, and we don't have rights to 
appeal that we would in other situations.
    The Beaudette decision then created those extra avenues for 
appeals, and it created the need for the eight-point letter. 
The eight-point letter is a letter that a veteran gets that 
is--basically mirrors a process that is within the VBA, or the 
Veterans Benefits Administration, that explains exactly why a 
veteran is denied.
    With the setting up of the supplemental claims and higher 
level reviews, this was something unique to VHA that they had 
never done before, and so that's kind of what has taken so 
long. Originally, VA had to completely set up a process--VHA 
had to completely set up a process they had never been involved 
in, and then they had to write regulations, write directives, 
everything administrative the VA does.
    Then they had to train a staff how to do that. In the 
meantime, they were already accepting those appeals but weren't 
able to act on them. It took them--they were accepting appeals 
for between 12 and 18 months before they could actually act on 
them. They are actually acting on them now for supplemental 
claims and higher level reviews, and so, we are starting to see 
some decisions come out of there. One of the things with 
Quality of Life Foundation we do, though, is to say if you had 
supplemental information that should have been available at the 
time of your original denial, while we would urge you to go 
ahead and submit a supplemental claim, we also want you to, if 
you have been denied from the beginning, we want you to go 
ahead and submit a new application using all of that evidence 
so we can go ahead and get you in the program with that extra 
information, while at the same time, your supplemental claim 
runs, which would then if you were accepted under your new 
application, you would be back paid from your supplemental 
claim, from the approval of your new application back to your 
date of your original application.
    However, there is a little bit of a narrow window that if 
that information that we consider supplemental should have been 
available at your first review, you can actually file it as a 
clinical appeal and have your appeal acted on--within 30 days 
that would actually get you back paid to your original 
application.
    Recently we have just, at Quality of Life, had that happen 
with a veteran. Actually, he was an Arizona veteran, and we got 
him back paid all the way to his denial in 2021 because they 
had never contacted his specialist.
    Senator Kelly. Sorry, I am way over, but do you feel this 
is moving in the right direction?
    Ms. Sawyer. I feel it is moving in the right direction, but 
slowly.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Warnock.
    Senator Warnock. Thank you so very much, Chairman Casey. 
Thanks to you and Senator Tester for holding this important 
hearing today. First Lady Rosalynn Carter, a great Georgian, 
used to say that there are only four kinds of people in the 
world. She said that there are those who have been caregivers, 
those who are currently caregivers, those who will be 
caregivers, and those who will need caregivers.
    Yet our caregiving infrastructure is falling short for too 
many, including our veterans. The VA boasts generous caregiving 
programs for veterans and their families. I am grateful for the 
work that happens there, but two of our witnesses today 
confronted challenges with one Federal program intended to 
financially support caregivers of injured veterans.
    The Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family 
Caregivers, or the PCAFC. Ms. Nieskens, I am deeply sorry to 
hear about your husband's grueling experiences with the PCAFC 
reassessment process. You are the human face of the public 
policy issue that we are trying to address.
    It is important that we are saying to the families that the 
goal is the veterans in this work. How tell me, how can the VA 
improve the reassessment process, so veterans won't have to 
experience the turmoil you and Kelly faced?
    Ms. Nieskens. The regulatory changes that were implemented, 
which required ADL assistance each and every time. Supervision, 
protection, and instruction assistance at a rate of continuous 
daily care were exclusionary. Therefore, needs such as my 
husband has for neurogenic bowel and seizure care and things 
like that, while those are very serious and require constant 
care, regular care, they are episodic.
    Therefore because of that, the nature of the disability 
itself, they were unable to meet the standard of each and every 
time and continuous daily care. That language is problematic 
and should be changed.
    Senator Warnock. Thank you so much. Again, you are the 
human face. It is a public policy. Regulations often don't 
match where people actually live. We have to be very 
intentional about getting it right.
    Mr. Townsend, thank you for your service and for being here 
today as a witness. Like Ms. Nieskens, you and your wife 
encountered barriers to receiving caregiving support. Can you 
talk about your experience getting connected to assistance 
after the VA denied your application for PCAFC?
    Mr. Townsend. After we were denied access to the 
comprehensive program, fortunately we were still able to access 
most of the benefits Lisa has since been enrolled in the 
General Program of Caregiver Assistance.
    We are able to participate in benefits such as respite 
care. We really haven't had--put it this way, the main benefit 
of the comprehensive program is the benefit--at least for me, 
is the availability of the medical insurance coverage through 
CHAMPVA. The other benefit, obviously, is the financial support 
through the stipend.
    We can live without the stipend. What made it possible for 
my wife to retire early and become my full-time caregiver was 
that availability of CHAMPVA. In our case, since we were denied 
access through the comprehensive program, fortunately for us, 
because of the 100 percent permanent and total nature of my 
disability rating, we were able to access that benefit through 
other means, not through the caregiver program itself.
    Senator Warnock. You were not automatically connected to 
the caregiver program?
    Mr. Townsend. That is true, sir. We--it is interesting that 
as we went through the process of the application of the 
comprehensive program, in our meetings with, for example, the 
social worker at the hospital, she explained to us that if we 
were denied access to the comprehensive program, we still would 
be able to access the benefits through the general program.
    We assumed that that transition from the comprehensive 
program to the general program would be almost automatic if we 
were denied access to the comprehensive program. Come to find 
out, that is not the case. It was only later, when I contacted 
the staff at the VA in Wilkes-Barre, that we realized that Lisa 
was not formally enrolled in the basic or general caregiver 
program.
    She is now, but that was not an automatic transition. 
Whatever the Committees can do to work with the VA to ensure a 
more seamless transition between the comprehensive program and 
the general caregiver program, if you are denied access to the 
comprehensive program, would be of tremendous benefit.
    Senator Warnock. You both paint a picture of a fractured 
system where the constituent parts do not talk seamlessly to 
one another, and so clearly there is room for improvement in 
addressing the need for continuity of care, making sure 
veterans don't fall between the tracks.
    Thank you so very much for your witness and your 
testimony--I think, brings this kind of issue into clear focus 
and helps us to see the work that we have got to do. Thank you 
for your service.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Warnock. I will turn to 
Senator Cassidy.
    Senator Cassidy. Thank you all. You know, I am a physician. 
You will see that reflected. You can tell that Warnock is a 
pastor, he went over. You know what I am saying?
    Senator Warnock. Everybody went over.
    Senator Cassidy. Well maybe that is----
    The Chairman. We had a lot of overs today.
    Senator Cassidy. A lot of overs. That is good. It is an 
important topic. I thank you for doing that. I am a physician, 
Mr. Townsend, and I noted that you had said that in your 
testimony--if people have already asked my questions, I 
apologize. I have been running around.
    This is my sixth thing I have done today. I apologize for 
not hearing what their answers were, but you spoke about your 
ineligibility for the Program of Comprehensive Assistance for 
Family Caregivers because you are 100 percent service related 
disability didn't require assistance each time the activity is 
performed.
    I am a physician, not a neurologist, but I remember from 
med school that MS waxes and wanes, and so, there is other 
conditions which wax and wane. Tell me, how has that played? Is 
that still an issue? What is the way to approach the VA 
regarding this?
    Mr. Townsend. Thank you very much for that question. You 
are absolutely correct that medical conditions like mine, like 
multiple sclerosis is often associated with symptoms that tend 
to wax and wane, can be severe on certain occasions and less 
severe. That has certainly been my experience with the 
condition.
    I am confident, that there are many other, veterans out 
there in similar circumstances. As we talked about earlier, the 
VA's current requirement that the veteran require assistance 
with the performance of certain activities of daily living each 
time or every time that activity is performed is restrictive 
and has excluded not only myself, but I am sure many other 
veterans like me, from participation in this very valuable 
program.
    Senator Cassidy. Is there the solution to propose? Ms. 
Sawyer, I see you nodding your head.
    Ms. Sawyer. Yes, sir. One of the solutions would be that 
you remove--that VA removes each and every time from the 
language of the regulation. One of our requests has been that 
Congress actually codify that it needs to be regular assistance 
with ADLs, because it was--in the regulation, it was regular 
assistance with the ADLs until VA reinterpreted the regulation.
    Senator Cassidy. I see.
    Ms. Sawyer. We would like--that is why we would like to ask 
Congress to codify that language.
    Senator Cassidy. Let me ask you, was there an issue with 
fraud? Why did they reinterpret it?
    Ms. Sawyer. VA made a move in 2017 to what they said was to 
realign the program with other VA geriatrics and extended care 
programs. Unfortunately, what they did was make this program 
actually even harder to get into than those other programs. 
There were actually not--there is this rampant rumor, an 
anecdote that there is a lot of fraud within this program.
    There has not been proven to be a lot of fraud within this 
program. Has there been some? Sure. Just like you see in every 
VA program. It is not rampant like it was--like it has been 
suggested.
    The one way that I have been--I would be curious to talk to 
Mr. Townsend about that you can get around that each and every 
time standard is that if a veteran then needs supervision with 
those activities of daily living, they can be--those ADLs can 
be considered under supervision, protection, and instruction. 
In the beginning, a lot of VA staffers were not trained to look 
at it that way under this new regulation.
    I would be curious to know if that--if he ever appealed and 
had it looked at through the lens of supervision protection----
    Senator Cassidy. Okay. I am going to make that a question 
for the record, just because I want to ask Ms. Beck something.
    Ms. Sawyer. Yes. Absolutely.
    Senator Cassidy. Ms. Beck, I had coffee with a woman who is 
now my age, 66, but I remember when she was 17, and so, and a 
lot happens in the interim, and one of the things that hasps 
happened is that she has a son who has been mentally ill, and 
he is now 40--diagnosed when he was 27. It was--and she said at 
some points she just felt like giving up. Just like, I can't do 
it.
    We can feel that, right. You mentioned here the issue of 
support for the supporter. If you had to put your finger on the 
critical gaps in mental health services for the caregivers, 
where would your finger land?
    Ms. Beck. Sir, thank you for that question. Yes, it is a 
significant problem that we have seen quite a bit of at the 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation. I think that one of the major things 
we recommend in our testimony just to start to impact that 
problem is that, you know, it has been great. The PCAFC was 
able to now offer mental health services for those who are 
eligible for that program, but that is a small minority of the 
population.
    In our testimony, we recommended that it be expanded to 
those in the general program as well to at least, again, you 
know, take a larger bite at the apple of addressing that. I do 
think also that, you know, we haven't--we can also try to 
remove some of the burden that is felt by those caregivers by 
addressing some of the care coordination issues that are 
rampant, speaking of things that are rampant, within the VA.
    In almost every case that I have run into in years of doing 
this and those with the foundation, lack of care coordination 
has been at the root of the problem for both the veteran and 
the caregiver.
    The amount of time that the caregiver has to spend in 
navigating those services, and the frustration and the anger of 
consistently having to repeat and prove your issues, and the 
needs is weighing very heavily on both caregivers and veterans 
themselves.
    Senator Cassidy. My friend, she said, every year I have to 
go and reestablish that it is true that my son has been 
disabled for mental illness for 20 years. It is like, why? Now, 
I get you recover from some things, but there is some things 
you do not recover from. It does seem like we could make some 
distinctions of that in our law. I got to apologize to Warnock. 
I went over longer than did he. Thank you all very much.
    Ms. Beck. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Senator Cassidy, thank you for your 
questions. I will just have one question before we wrap up, and 
I really appreciate the testimony of all of our witnesses. I 
wanted to go back to you, Mr. Townsend. You are a retired 
physician assistant and someone who is deeply engaged with 
other veterans in your community through the Paralyzed Veterans 
of America and volunteering at the local VA medical center at 
Wilkes-Barre.
    Even with your extensive knowledge of the health care 
system and your veteran connections, you had to "self-educate" 
on the VA benefits that were available to you. Multiple 
veterans organizations have said they received no direct 
outreach from the VA about the caregiver support program.
    Often, veterans seem to have heard of the program from a 
veterans service organization or from a fellow veteran, not 
from the VA. I am concerned that this haphazard approach--and 
that might be an understatement.
    This haphazard hazard approach to outreach will leave too 
many families that are eligible in the dark about the Caregiver 
Support Program. Veterans and their caregivers deserve to know 
when there is a program that can provide them with the support.
    I would ask you, how did you find out about the caregiver 
support program? That is number one, and number two is, how do 
you think veterans who are not health care experts are 
connected to other veterans as you are, can find out about 
these programs and how to navigate them.
    Mr. Townsend. The haphazard approach that you described, 
Senator Casey, certainly has been my personal experience. Most 
of what I learned through--it was through a process of self-
education, by talking to fellow veterans, by working with 
veteran service organizations like PBA, by looking at online 
resources.
    Some of those are online resources, in fact, are produced 
by the VA. It is interesting that one of the things that seemed 
commonsense to me, because I agree with you, that the VA 
medical system can be intimidating, even for somebody with 
health care experience.
    One of the first things I thought of, that would occur, 
would be that when you--particularly when you are new in the 
system, that you would have an opportunity to sit down with 
maybe a social worker at the VA and they would explain to you 
the benefits that you are eligible for, but that certainly was 
not my experience.
    If I could make one recommendation, it would simply be to--
for the VA to better educate the beneficiaries of their care, 
of all the services that are currently available to them, 
because that communication of information I think often doesn't 
occur, at least not in the way that it should.
    The Chairman. Well, that is a reasonable proposal. We need 
a few of those around here. I wanted to close with a statement, 
and we will wrap up, and all of you have been very patient with 
your time and your experience and your expertise, and we 
appreciate you being here with us.
    As we heard today from our witnesses, the VA's Caregiver 
Support Program is a vital and life changing benefit for so 
many families, but too many veterans are not able to get the 
benefits that they have earned, and that they and their 
families deserve. Our service members, and veterans put their 
lives on the line every day to ensure that America remains the 
land of the free. We rely on their commitment.
    When they are wounded or when they are injured or ill, they 
need our support, and they need our commitment. With 5.5 
million military caregivers in the United States, it is 
imperative we do everything we can to support the critical 
workers providing family and other paid caregiving.
    As one family in Pittston, Pennsylvania, right near my 
hometown of Scranton, shared in a statement. For the record, 
for today's hearing, "if our son T.J., who lost his eyes and 
one third of his brain in service to our country, if he is 
disqualified, then we are left wondering who truly qualifies 
for these services."
    We must do more to provide support to veterans and 
caregivers so that they can do their work and are supported 
fully in the process. We need to provide easier and clearer 
access to information about the caregiving and long-term care, 
services and support that the VA offers, as well as easier 
navigation and support in the application process.
    As we heard from Mr. Townsend, veterans shouldn't have to 
rely upon the word--upon word of mouth to find out about these 
life changing benefits. We also need to make sure that the VA 
has the resources that it needs, including a strong, stable 
workforce to provide veterans with the best and most efficient 
care, including caregiver support services.
    I look forward to working with my colleagues to address the 
needs of our millions of veterans and their family members who 
are in need of long-term care. I know we will have a number of 
statements for the record for this hearing--I should say 
closing statements for the record for the hearing, and we will 
enter those into the record at the appropriate time.
    I want to once again thank all of our witnesses for 
contributing their time and their expertise today. I will be 
entering, and I am just holding up a folder with--containing 
five written statements for the record.
    These are from Pennsylvania veterans who receive long-term 
care services and support from the VA, or who are enrolled in 
the Family Caregiver--Family Caregiving Program.
    The Chairman. Last, if any Senators have additional 
questions for the record for witnesses, or statements to be 
added to the record, the hearing record will be kept open for 
seven days until next Wednesday, June the 12th. Thank you all 
for participating today, and this concludes our hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 12:06 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
     
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                                APPENDIX

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                           Opening Statements

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   OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR MIKE BRAUN, RANKING MEMBER, SPECIAL 
                           COMMITTEE ON AGING

    American veterans represent the absolute best our country 
has to offer, and they deserve the absolute best when they 
return home.
    Of our country's 16.5 million veterans, nearly half are 65 
years or older and 3.2 million have a disability rating over 
30%. Given these dynamics, it is essential that we improve how 
we are caring for our aging and disabled veterans.
    Historically, state veterans homes were the only option for 
aging and disabled veterans in need of skilled nursing care.
    Now, we have built a robust infrastructure of 165 
facilities across all 50 states by working in partnership with 
states. However, increasingly both older and younger veterans 
want to remain in their homes while receiving care, often from 
their families.
    When younger post-9/11 veterans returned home wounded but 
not fully in need of traditional institutional care, Congress 
had to reevaluate its care options. Congress established the VA 
Caregiver Support Programs (CSPs) to better meet the emerging 
needs of this new era of veterans. These programs provide 
family caregivers with a menu of services from education to 
respite care.
    Since 2011, the VA CSPs have helped relieve stress for tens 
of thousands of wounded veterans and their caregivers. In 2020, 
the Biden Administration published a rule that tightened 
eligibility requirements for the Program of Comprehensive 
Assistance for Family Caregivers. This resulted in many 
participants being kicked off the program and no longer 
receiving critical caregiver support.
    I joined Senator Tester in introducing the CARE Act 
(S.1792), which pushes back on VA while improving operation and 
oversight of the Caregivers Program. I was pleased to see that 
our bill was included in the bipartisan Veteran's package 
currently making its way through the House. This isn't the only 
improvement Congress can make to the VA Caregiver Support 
Programs.
    As we are facing critical shortages in the caregiving 
workforce, Congress and the VA must ensure veterans have access 
to consistent and reliable respite options. One way we can do 
this is by leveraging the existing resource available in our 
State Veterans Homes. Veterans should be able to use their 
respite hours to access services including in-home paid 
caregivers and State Veterans Homes Adult Day Health Centers. 
These health centers provide more robust services for veterans 
than traditional independent adult day cares and State Veterans 
Homes are well-positioned to scale them quickly if given the 
flexibility to do so.
    By reinstating the State Veterans Homes construction 
flexibilities and allowing them to open satellite locations at 
existing medical and long-term care facilities, Congress can 
swiftly and efficiently address the respite needs of veterans 
and their caregivers.
    I am committed to working with the Senate Committee on 
Veterans Affairs to reinstate those flexibilities and ensure 
all veterans have access to high-quality respite care.
    I look forward to the discussion and insights our panelists 
bring today.      
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                      Prepared Witness Statements

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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

"Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers""

                              June 5, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Statement

                             Peter Townsend

    Chairman Casey, Chairman Tester, Ranking Member Braun, 
Ranking Member Moran, and distinguished members of the 
Committees. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you 
today regarding my experiences with the caregiver support 
services available through the VA and its Caregiver Support 
Programs.
    My name is Peter Townsend. I'm currently 60 years old and 
live in Auburn Township, Susquehanna County in northeastern 
Pennsylvania with my wife Lisa, who is also my caregiver.
    I served in the United States Army on active duty from 1982 
to 1986. After completing infantry and airborne training, I was 
assigned to units in Ft. Lewis, Washington, Camp Kitty Hawk in 
the Republic of Korea and Ft. Bragg, North Carolina.
    Following my discharge from active duty in 1986, I used the 
educational benefits I earned through the Veterans Educational 
Assistance Program to pursue an education in healthcare and 
earned degrees in nursing and as a Physician Assistant. I went 
on to work for over two decades as a Physician Assistant, 
mostly in primary care, before retiring prematurely in 2014 due 
to complications of Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis.
    When I was initially diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis (MS) 
around 2007, my symptoms were mild and progressed slowly. 
Unfortunately, as the disease progressed, I began to experience 
significant difficulty with mobility, as well as difficulties 
with fatigue, cognition and bowel and bladder dysfunction, 
among others. Today, I rely upon a power wheelchair when out in 
the community and a walker to ambulate short distances in the 
home.
    Through casual conversations with fellow veterans, I 
learned that MS was a medical condition that the VA recognized 
as a presumptive, service-connected disease.\1\ At the urging 
of my veteran friends, I filed a claim with the VA for 
disability in 2019. With the assistance of Paralyzed Veterans 
of America, of which I am a member, I was successful with my 
claim and am now rated 100 percent service-disabled due to MS. 
After receiving my determination, I enrolled for the first time 
in VA healthcare.
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Multiple Sclerosis Centers of Excellence
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    As my symptoms progressed, I began to rely more and more on 
the assistance of my wife, Lisa. My experience with MS has been 
that of unpredictability with a wide variation in symptom 
severity. Most days are "good days" where I am able to function 
fairly independently. However, when confronted by a flair or 
"pseudo exacerbation," often as the result of a febrile illness 
or other acute condition, I can become temporarily 
incapacitated. During these times, I rely very heavily on Lisa 
for assistance with a variety of activities of daily living to 
include intermittent catheterization, transfers, toileting, 
personal hygiene, dressing and meal preparation. Fortunately, 
these episodes are infrequent and short-lived, lasting from 
several days to a week or two. Even though infrequent, I have 
had no less than three of these episodes already this year.
    Prior to leaving the workforce, Lisa had been working as a 
Case Manager for Keystone Community Resources in Montrose, 
Pennsylvania, a company that provides services to adults in the 
community with intellectual and developmental disabilities. 
Eventually, as my condition deteriorated, we decided that Lisa 
would retire early from her position in June of 2022 at age 61, 
in order to be my full-time caregiver.
    Once again, primarily through a process of self-education 
and online resources, we learned of the VA's Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC). So, 
when the VA opened eligibility for the program to veterans of 
all service eras in October 2022, we applied. Unfortunately, we 
were informed the following month that our application had been 
denied. As I understand it, we were denied entry into the 
program due to the VA's determination that I did not require 
assistance with the performance of certain "activities of daily 
living" each time that activity was performed, or that the 
level of assistance did not "rise to the level required to 
participate in the PCAFC".
    This strict interpretation of the eligibility criteria by 
the VA is of particular concern to veterans like myself with 
medical conditions like MS whose symptoms are highly variable 
and unpredictable. My concern is that because of this current 
interpretation by the VA of the eligibility criterion for the 
Program of Comprehensive Assistance, many other veterans like 
me and their caregivers are being denied access to this 
extremely valuable program. I'm confident that I am not the 
only one!
    After our application for the comprehensive program was 
denied, Lisa was eventually enrolled into the Program of 
General Caregiver Support Services (PGCSS). However, this 
transition to the PGCSS was not automatic and we went for some 
time thinking that we were enrolled in the general program, 
although we were not.
    One of the most valuable benefits of the Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance, is the availability of medical 
insurance coverage for caregivers through the Civilian Health 
and Medical Program of the Department of Veterans Affairs 
(CHAMPVA). The availability of CHAMPVA was the only way we 
could afford for Lisa to retire early and fortunately for us, 
she qualified for coverage under the program due to my 
permanent and total disability rating. This option, however, is 
not available to those veterans denied Access to the PCAFC, 
whose disability rating is less than 100 percent, permanent and 
total.
    Although the Program of General Caregiver Support Services 
offers fewer benefits than the PCAFC, one significant benefit 
it does offer is respite care. We were able to utilize this 
benefit earlier this year when Lisa underwent total knee 
replacement surgery in January. The Spinal Cord Injury and 
Disorder (SCI/D) Clinic Coordinator was able to arrange for me 
to be admitted to the Community Living Center at the Wilkes-
Barre VA for three weeks while Lisa recovered from her surgery. 
Lisa knew that regardless of what was happening with my health, 
I was being cared for so that she could focus on her recovery. 
I can't emphasize enough how valuable the respite care benefit 
was to our family at that time, and it's comforting to know 
that it will be there if we need it in the future.
    Throughout this journey, our goal has been, and will 
continue to be, to create an environment that allows me to live 
in our home as long as possible and to avoid the need for long-
term care. Participation in the VA Caregiver Program helps us 
to achieve that goal. The reality is that my current level of 
disability is such that I am no longer able to live 
independently and would require placement in an assisted-living 
facility were it not for Lisa's efforts.
    I would like to make it clear that Lisa and I remain very 
grateful for all the benefits that we have received and 
continue to receive! These include, but are not limited to, the 
Home Improvements and Structural Alterations (HISA) grant that 
we used last year to partially fund the complete remodel of our 
master bathroom to make it fully wheelchair accessible, as well 
as other grants and services that I am eligible for but have 
yet to utilize. We thank the Veterans Administration for the 
services that they have already provided and the excellent care 
that I continue to receive.
    One of the ways that I am able to show my gratitude is by 
volunteering at the Wilkes-Barre VA Medical Center. For over 
two years I have served as a Red Coat Ambassador, once a week, 
as a way of serving my fellow veterans and by giving back to 
the organization that has done so much for me.
    The system is not perfect, however, and there will always 
be room for improvement. I encourage the Committees to work 
with the VA to ensure a more seamless transition to the PGCSS 
following denial of the PCAFC. Also, there needs to be better 
communication to veterans of the resources and benefits 
available through the VA, particularly those newly enrolled in 
VA healthcare. Lastly, taking care of a loved particularly 
those newly enrolled in VA healthcare. Lastly, taking care of a 
loved Finally, as a member of PVA, I would be remiss if I did 
not mention the need for Congress to pass the Elizabeth Dole 
Home Care Act (H.R. 522/S. 141) which will further improve upon 
the resources and services available to veterans like myself 
and their caregivers. This legislation addresses some of the 
most urgent needs of veterans and the people who care for them, 
and they should not have to wait any longer. I urge you to pass 
this bill as quickly as possible.
    I thank you for this opportunity to share our experiences 
and look forward to answering any questions that you may have.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

"Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers""

                              June 5, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Statement

                            Hannah Nieskens

    Chairmen Casey and Tester, Ranking Members Braun and Moran, 
and Members of the Senate Special Committee on Aging and Senate 
Veteran Affairs Committee, I am honored to testify today. My 
name is Hannah Nieskens, and I have been married to my husband, 
Kelly, for twenty years. I have been his caregiver for eighteen 
and a half of those years.
    In 2005, Kelly was a 23-year-old Army infantryman deployed 
to Forward Operating Base McHenry in Hawijah, Iraq. Hawijah, 
located in the Sunni Triangle, was a hotspot for insurgency 
activity during the Iraq War. On May 4, 2005, during a routine 
patrol, Kelly's Humvee was struck by a large IED. This was the 
fifth time a roadside bomb had hit his vehicle since his 
arrival in November, but this time the damage was catastrophic. 
The explosion left the Humvee disabled in an 11-foot-wide 
crater, and the squad members, including Kelly, were knocked 
unconscious.
    Upon regaining consciousness and exiting the vehicle, they 
came under sniper fire. Kelly was struck by a large-caliber 
rifle round that traveled through his ribs, hit his armored 
plates, and ricocheted multiple times through his torso before 
lodging near his spine. He survived thanks to the extraordinary 
efforts of medics, doctors, and the evacuation team.
    Kelly was honorably discharged and did not receive medical 
retirement or Servicemembers' Group Life Insurance Traumatic 
Injury Protection (TSGLI). I believe this was partly because he 
was under a stop-loss order when he was wounded, as his formal 
separation date had already passed, and partly because he was a 
National Guardsman activated to active duty Army service and 
was unaware of these benefits.
    Upon reintegration into civilian life, Kelly's physical 
limitations were evident: mobility issues, painful scars, nerve 
damage, neurogenic bowels, migraines, seizures, and hearing 
loss. However, his cognitive impairments presented the greatest 
challenges, including executive functioning issues, memory 
deficits, mood dysregulation, impaired judgment, impulse 
control problems, chronic sleep deficit, anxiety, difficulty 
establishing and maintaining relationships, and inability to 
concentrate. In 2011, after being referred by Kelly's VA 
psychiatrist, I was accepted into the VA's Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC), which 
has been a lifeline for us. The support and assistance from the 
PCAFC staff have been invaluable in managing Kelly's care and 
providing support and educational opportunities for me; I have 
nothing but good things to say about the VA Montana PCAFC 
staff.
    However, I did have concerns about Kelly's healthcare. The 
Veterans Health Administration (VHA) doctors had prescribed 
numerous medications to manage his symptoms with limited 
success. In 2016, I shared my concerns with another caregiver I 
had met through the PCAFC, suspecting that many of Kelly's 
symptoms were due to TBI rather than PTSD. PTSD typically 
improves with treatment, but TBI symptoms often worsen over 
time as the brain ages. Kelly's symptoms had steadily worsened. 
My friend recommended UCLA's Operation Mend program, which 
provides comprehensive assessments for veterans. Kelly was 
accepted to the UCLA program, and in June 2016, we traveled to 
Los Angeles for an 8-day evaluation. Despite the neurologist's 
initial expectations that a brain MRI was unlikely to show 
anything of significance 11 years after the injury, an MRI 
revealed twelve lesions on Kelly's brain, some as large as a 
dime, confirming a significant TBI from the blast. I recall the 
doctor asking Kelly if he remembered any symptoms from 2005. He 
said he remembered having tremendous headaches for 3-4 months 
and that his helmet would not fit on his head for a few weeks. 
However, at the time, the care for his gunshot wounds took 
priority.
    The discovery of brain lesions, the results of UCLA 
clinical neuropsych testing, and a UCLA spine evaluation 
enabled us to reopen Kelly's Veterans Benefits Administration 
(VBA) benefits claim to address missing and low disability 
ratings. Kelly's (VBA) initial TBI disability rating had been 
10%. I attribute this low rating to the lack of a comprehensive 
neurological exam and the absence of a brain MRI. After a 
thorough review of 29 sets of medical records spanning 2004-
2016, Kelly received additional benefits backdated to December 
2016. These included a 100% permanent and total rating, a 70% 
TBI rating, aid and attendance benefits, a 50% rating for 
migraines, and service connection for neurogenic bowels. I was 
also appointed his VA fiduciary due to the cognitive deficits 
of TBI, including impaired judgment and memory, which rendered 
him incompetent by VA definition.
    In 2021, ten years after entering the VA's Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers, we were 
notified that Kelly needed a reassessment for our eligibility 
for the PCAFC program. Honestly, given the magnitude of Kelly's 
needs and the fact we had long been established with the 
program, I trusted that this process would only reaffirm what 
was already known. How wrong I was. The reassessment process 
was grueling and heartbreaking. During a nearly two-hour 
virtual appointment with a contracted occupational therapist, 
Kelly and I had to painfully recount every limitation he faces. 
When Kelly became emotional while discussing toileting needs 
due to neurogenic bowel, the examiner was unable to see his 
tears, and she pressed on.
    I also had to try and quantify everything I do as a 
caregiver. This is difficult when you have spent nearly two 
decades as a caregiver because all of the support I provide is 
so integrated into our daily lives. I did my best to recount my 
caregiving tasks, including personal care assistance with 
activities of daily living (ADLs), medication management, meal 
preparation, transportation, behavioral and emotional support, 
mobility assistance, financial management, home adaptation, and 
advocacy and support with healthcare providers.
    The resulting report was incomplete and inaccurate. Perhaps 
the most egregious error was a statement that read in part, "He 
has had a gunshot to the head." The report also missed critical 
diagnoses and VBA disability ratings. For example, Kelly's VBA 
rated disability of status post through and through gunshot 
wound injury, coded with VBA diagnostic code 5320 for muscle 
injuries due to wounds caused by gunshots or other missiles, 
was recorded in his VHA records as superficial scars and back 
muscle impairment, as there was no equivalent diagnostic code 
in the VHA medical record system. His VBA rating for neurogenic 
bowel was recorded in the VHA system as irritable colon. 
Perhaps most importantly, his TBI disability, including the 
rating of 70%, was completely missing in the VHA record as a 
rated service-connected disability.
    I did my best to advocate to get these disability codes 
fixed before submission of the reassessment document for the 
Centralized Eligibility and Appeals Team (CEAT) review. Despite 
the best efforts of the VA staff, the incorrect diagnoses could 
not be corrected due to inequivalent diagnostic codes between 
the VBA and VHA systems.
    The reassessment outcome was stunning. Ironically, on March 
23, 2022, the very day of the Senate Veteran's Affairs 
Committee hearing entitled "Honoring Our Commitment: Improving 
VA's Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family 
Caregivers," a nurse at the Centralized Eligibility and Appeals 
Team (CEAT) reviewed Kelly's and my case and determined that 
"the Veteran and caregiver do not meet eligibility criteria." 
We were issued a letter dismissing me from the program.
    I have wondered, due to the timing, if this person actually 
did a thorough review of the reassessment report or if, on the 
morning of March 23, the CEAT staff hastily ejected a number of 
program participants, anticipating that the Senate hearing may 
result in a halt to all impending evaluations.

Regardless, this decision highlighted several issues:

      1. Data Discrepancies: VBA and VHA records are stored in 
separate databases, leading to incomplete or incorrect ratings 
and disability information in the VHA record.
      2. Process Discrepancies: A thorough VBA assessment, 
considering extensive evidence from multiple medical sources 
over a decade, contrasted sharply with a superficial VHA 
evaluation based on a one-time exam with an examiner unfamiliar 
with Kelly's needs and limited records review spanning six 
months.
      3. Outcome Discrepancies: The VBA examination process 
identified a need for aid and attendance "to protect the 
Veteran from the hazards or dangers incident to the Veteran's 
daily environment." The VBA also determined a rating of 
incompetency due to "cognitive deficit as of TBI." The VHA 
reassessment determined that a "daily need for supervision, 
protection, or instruction for a minimum of six continuous 
months" did not exist.
      4. Penalizing Stable Needs: Veterans with stable needs or 
those receiving private care are disadvantaged in reassessments 
due to fewer medical records. The lack of frequent doctor 
visits should not be interpreted as an insignificant need. 
Veterans with stable needs are less likely to doctor frequently 
and, therefore, do not have an extensive health record.
      5. Penalizing Access Issues: VA Montana Healthcare 
strives to provide service to veterans but faces chronic 
understaffing and a lack of specialty care providers. Kelly has 
not seen a VA clinical psychologist, so there are no notes in 
the VHA system from such a specialist about his cognitive 
impairments for supervision, protection, and instruction (SPI). 
Similarly, he has not been seen by a VA occupational therapist 
to document his physical assistance needs. The neurologist who 
recommended aid and attendance for Kelly retired this year, 
transferring his care to the only other VA neurologist in the 
state, located over 200 miles away. Kelly used to receive care 
from a VA psychiatrist via telehealth, but she also retired, 
and his medication management was transferred to a pharmacist 
via telehealth. Through community care, Kelly receives regular 
spinal injections from an orthopedic surgeon for mobility and 
visits a community care chiropractor for pain and mobility 
needs. Due to VA staffing challenges and shortages, veterans 
may not develop comprehensive VA medical records with internal 
notes regarding ADA or SPI needs. In our case, I believe the 
lack of a detailed VA medical record in the six months 
preceding the evaluation worked against us.
      6. VBA Ratings Do Contribute to Program Access: The only 
positive outcome from the PCAFC reassessment was that adding 
Kelly's 70% TBI VBA rating to the VHA data system made him 
eligible for additional support. In September 2022, a VA 
Polytrauma/TBI program caseworker contacted us regarding his 
TBI and offered additional services for which he was eligible. 
When I explained that his TBI had occurred in 2005, the 
caseworker was initially surprised that he was only now being 
identified for needed care. "Better late than never," she said.

Considerations and Recommendations:

      1. Presumptive Need: By its very nature, aid and 
attendance and serving as a fiduciary are forms of supervision, 
protection, and instruction. I believe certain VBA ratings 
should, by their nature, be presumptive of caregiving needs, 
such as incompetency, aid and attendance, or housebound status. 
I believe it would save the VHA a whole lot of time, energy, 
and expense if it utilized the VBA records as part of its 
assessment process to eliminate reassessments for veterans with 
presumptive ratings and conditions.
      2. Threshold of Need: Define in law that ADL assistance 
does not need to be "each and every time," as currently stated 
in the regulation and upheld by a court as an allowable 
interpretation. The current definition is exceptionally 
problematic for certain conditions. For example, a diagnosis of 
neurogenic bowel and treatment for encopresis with constipation 
and overflow incontinence requires substantial and timely 
hygiene assistance. However, by their nature, these conditions 
are episodic and irregular. Similarly, the threshold for 
supervision, protection, and instruction assistance should be 
"regular," not "continuous daily care." Requiring "regular" 
assistance with certain SPI needs to maintain personal safety 
can also be episodic. For example, acting as a fiduciary 
involves continuous, regular responsibilities, but not 
necessarily daily tasks. Likewise, providing care during a 
seizure episode or dissociative fugue state is continuous but 
not daily, yet these situations demonstrate a "regular" need 
for safety and protection assistance.
      3. Costlier or Unavailable Alternatives: Removing 
caregivers from PCAFC could lead them to seek more expensive 
care options for their veterans, including home health aides 
through Medicare or the VA programs. Utilizing home health 
aides instead of caregivers exacerbates the significant 
nationwide shortage of home health aides. In addition, the 
availability of home health care aides, especially in rural 
areas, like our town in Montana, which has a population of 68, 
is none to few.
      4. Reassessment Volume: Approximately 16,000 people need 
a new PCAFC reassessment before September 2025. I fear another 
rushed process will be neither comprehensive nor valid, placing 
undue emotional strain and stress on veterans and caregivers. I 
believe reassessments for PCAFC should not be annual. Instead, 
reassessments could occur when a veteran's needs change 
significantly, as determined by a doctor or the PCAFC team.
      5. Comprehensive Evaluations: Specialists should be 
involved in reassessments. Medical records from providers 
outside the VA, whether through community care or private care, 
should be obtained and considered. Given the high staff 
turnover within the VA, records may need to be reviewed for a 
period longer than six months to find the most accurate 
information.

    This May marked 19 years since Kelly's injury. Over these 
years, I have learned that aging significantly amplifies the 
challenges faced by people with disabilities. As the brain 
ages, it naturally undergoes changes that can affect cognitive 
function, memory, and overall neurological health. In 
individuals with a traumatic brain injury (TBI), these aging 
processes can be accelerated, leading to a more rapid decline 
in cognitive abilities and exacerbating existing neurological 
issues. Similarly, the body's physical aging process impacts 
mobility and other bodily functions. Muscles weaken, joints 
become stiffer, and the risk of developing chronic conditions 
grows. These increasing needs make daily activities for people 
with disabilities more challenging and require continuous, 
specialized care.
    Withdrawing support for disabled veterans with high needs 
and their caregivers is incomprehensible. As the brain and body 
age, the need for consistent and comprehensive care for our 
veterans only intensifies. Removing the critical support 
systems provided by programs like PCAFC not only jeopardizes 
the health and well-being of veterans but also places an undue 
burden on caregivers, making it increasingly difficult to 
manage these complex and evolving needs.
    Thank you for allowing me to share my story. I am happy to 
answer any questions you may have.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

"Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers""

                              June 5, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Statement

                             Andrea Sawyer

    Chairmen Casey and Tester, Ranking Members Braun and Moran, 
and Committee Members, my name is Andrea Sawyer, and I am the 
Advocacy Director for the Quality of Life Foundation (QoLF), a 
national non-profit organization founded in 2008 to address the 
unmet needs of caregivers, children, and family members of 
wounded, ill, or injured veterans.
    As you know, over the years, legislation, and policy with 
respect to caregivers has fortunately evolved. Congress passed 
the VA MISSION Act of 2018 which made substantial changes to 
the original Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family 
Caregivers (PCAFC). The changes include: (1) expanding PCAFC 
eligibility to caregivers of Pre-9/11 veterans and (2) 
expanding eligible care conditions to include illness and 
noncombat-related injuries.
    Initially, the MISSION Act legislation was greeted with 
great fanfare. New generations of veterans and caregivers would 
now be eligible, and those who were ill or otherwise injured 
would have the option of having a loving family member care for 
them. By broadening eligibility, Congress acknowledged the 
argument caregivers had been making for years--by being present 
at the veteran's side, caregivers are able to facilitate 
growth, maintain progress that was made in therapies, and offer 
a more complete medical picture to the specialists who were not 
able to be with the veteran all the time. This led to improved 
outcomes for many warriors and cost- savings for the 
government.

Congressional Intent vs. Implementation

    Congress clearly expressed its intent that seriously 
injured veterans were to be served by the PCAFC program in the 
MISSION Act legislation. As it had done with the original 
legislation creating the program, Congress again made sure to 
leave no doubt that injuries other than physical injuries were 
to be considered, emphasizing on multiple occasions that, 
"serious injury (including traumatic brain injury, 
psychological trauma, or other mental disorder,)" be 
considered. It is important to note that Congress had the 
opportunity to change the eligibility requirement from 
seriously injured to the stricter "severely" injured, a term 
that was clearly in the lexicon at the time of the passage of 
the legislation. However, Congress chose to stay with the more 
inclusive "seriously injured."
    As a result of this new legislation, the Department of 
Veterans Affairs drafted new implementing regulations, 
including revising the criteria for admission and developing 
new application, assessment/evaluation, and approval/denial 
processes. As a result, and due to the complexity of the new 
evaluation and appeals processes, QoLF refocused its efforts 
and created educational resources for those applying for the 
program and assisted in the preparation of clinical appeals for 
those who have been denied. Through our work, our staff has 
developed a unique understanding of the operational and policy 
questions and challenges surrounding the roll-out and 
implementation of the post-MISSION Act PCAFC program. However, 
let me be clear QoLF is NOT offering any clinical judgement, we 
are simply assisting the caregiver and veteran to identify 
factual errors and omissions in the record, gather documents 
supporting their case, and articulate their arguments in clear, 
concise language.
    As we assisted in the drafting of these clinical appeals, 
we found that although the new legislation broadened the 
program, the VA's implementing regulations and guidance have 
vastly narrowed the number of individuals who would qualify for 
PCAFC services, including the stipend. In many cases, it seemed 
the VA had exchanged a program intended for seriously injured 
to one only for those who were severely injured. BOTH 
categories of veterans often require a caregiver to achieve 
their maximum level of functionality and highest quality of 
life.
    In March 2022, QoLF testified before the Senate Veterans 
Affairs Committee (SVAC) about the problems we found with the 
regulation and implementation of changes the VA made after the 
MISSION Act passage. At that time, VA had just paused the 
discharges of Legacy participants since their re-evaluations 
had just begun under the post-MISSION Act evaluations. While it 
was anticipated there would be some discharges among Legacy 
participants, far more were discharged than expected through 
the assessment process. Additionally, many older veterans from 
the first MISSION Act cohort, with needs anecdotally expected 
to qualify for the program, were not qualifying.

    Where We Were:

    At the time of March 2022 SVAC hearing, QoLF listed a 
multitude of issues with the assessment and evaluation process, 
some created from legislation, some from regulation, some from 
the assessment language, and some from the implementation 
process. The highlights of those stated issues were:

      1. Language in the regulation requiring assistance "each 
and every time" an Activity of Daily Living (ADL) was 
completed;
      2. Language in the regulation requiring "continuous daily 
care" for supervision, protection, and instruction;
      3. Language of serious injury v. catastrophically 
injured;
      4. Language surrounding the "ability to self-sustain in 
the community" with respect to tier determination;
      5. The length of time of the history of the veteran's 
condition being evaluated in the record (past twelve months);
      6. Gathering of the outside records and specialists' 
input; and
      7. Lack of evidence provided by the CEAT (Clinical 
Eligibility Assessment Team) decision to understand the 
discharge or level decision rendered.

    Additionally, two court decisions, the Beaudette and the 
Veteran-Warriors decisions, created new issues surrounding 
PCAFC. The decisions meant the Caregiver Support Program (CSP) 
had to develop and implement plans to resolve existing issues 
within PCAFC, some of which QoLF had mentioned in our March 
2022 SVAC testimony.
    In the months after the March 2022 SVAC hearing on VA's 
PCAFC, VA Central Office (VACO) CSP leadership wisely engaged 
with Veteran Service Organizations (VSOs), CSP staff, and 
caregivers across the country to learn about challenges, 
identify additional issues, and discuss ideas for resolution. 
As a result of those engagements, VACO CSP has resolved some of 
the original issues, identified potential regulation changes, 
and developed and implemented staff trainings for a program 
that had not existed previously within VACO CSP, and, in some 
areas, VHA. While we do not always agree, QoLF wants to commend 
Dr. Colleen Richardson and her staff for their willingness to 
engage in these very complex issues and seek appropriate policy 
solutions.
    Unfortunately, in the late fall of 2022, VA Office of 
General Counsel ceased to allow the VACO CSP team led by Dr. 
Richardson to interact with and continue the active listening 
sessions with VSOs on policy and implementation language 
surrounding the remaking of the regulation for the VA CSP, 
including the PCAFC. Since that time, the entire Veteran 
Caregiver Community, as well as the VSO Community, has awaited 
the new pending regulation for the VA CSP, hoping that the 
problems we testified to in the past, and will testify to 
today, will be addressed in that new regulation.
    On May 13, 2024, QoLF and Military Officers Association of 
America (MOAA) held a Caregiver and Veteran Experience: A 
Community's Response to the Pending VA Caregiver Support 
Program Regulations 2024 Roundtable. At that time, we hosted 
legislative representatives from many prominent VSOs, several 
Congressional staffers, including SVAC staffers from both 
sides, and caregivers, researchers, and governmental 
representatives. The purpose of the roundtable was to identify 
problems with the post-MISSION Act regulation and propose 
actionable solutions to improve VA PCAFC. Some of those 
solutions are incorporated our testimony today.

Where We Are:

    While much work has been done, much still remains to make 
this an effective and fair program for veterans and caregivers. 
Below, please see a summary of remaining issues:

      1. "Each and Every Time":The legality of the requirement 
that a caregiver must assist a veteran with an Activity of 
Daily Living (ADL) "each and every time" it is completed for 
eligibility in the program has been reviewed. The Sheets 
decision ruled that this strict interpretation of assistance 
with ADL's under VA's regulation was allowed under the 
legislation creating the PCAFC. However, VACO CSP has 
acknowledged that this strict interpretation is keeping 
veterans, especially older veterans, out of the program and 
penalizing veterans for being able to do anything for 
themselves, impeding progress in rehabilitation and potentially 
causing harm. Changing the ADL language to "regular assistance" 
would align the language with the frequency of assistance under 
other VA programs, as well as allow veterans to function at 
their highest potential when able to without fear of losing 
their caregiver. Changing this language will require a 
regulation change.
    QoLF feels a change to "regular assistance with an ADL" 
will resolve the issue. HOWEVER, to prevent any backsliding we 
would prefer this language be legislated as otherwise the 
regulation can be re-interpreted as was done in 2015, 2017, and 
2020, necessitating constant pauses.

      2.  "Continuous Daily Care":The requirement that a 
caregiver must assist a veteran with supervision, protection, 
and instruction (SPI) continuously throughout the day excluded 
some conditions for which the legislation had been expanded. 
For example, under the original regulation for the MISSION Act, 
a veteran with Alzheimer's who only sundowned would not be 
eligible for the program because the veteran would not always 
need "continuous daily care." While the veteran would have 
needed daily care, the veteran was independent during some 
daytime hours, and therefore care was not continuous. The 
Sheets decision actually rectified this issue by stating that 
the "continuous daily care" standard under the MISSION Act 
regulation was stricter than the PCAFC legislation allowed. As 
a result, the regulation reverted back to the definition found 
in the legislation which was "regular or extensive 
instruction."
    The guidance for VA CSP SPI was rewritten, nationwide staff 
was retrained, and QoLF has seen a significant improvement in 
qualifying under this requirement.

      3. "Seriously vs. Catastrophically Injured":Both the 
Omnibus Act of 2010 and the MISSION Act used the term 
"seriously injured." At the time of the original legislation 
the term "Seriously Injured" existed in the DOD lexicon as a 
person who would need at least six months to recover from 
injury and would not return to a state of fitness for duty. 
Because of the number of joint commissions that existed at the 
time, media interest, and public scrutiny that lexicon was 
understood at the time. By 2018, the passage of the MISSION 
Act, withdrawal from Iraq, and downsizing of the force in 
Afghanistan lowered the number of recently injured veterans and 
attention to this population waned, allowing the term and its 
definition to fall out of the common lexicon surrounding the 
legislation. Transition of staff in Congress and in the VA also 
created a vacuum of knowledge around this term.
    The term "catastrophically injured" was created by the VA 
in 1996 with the expansion of VA priority groups and the 
realization that there were veterans who needed primary care 
from VA, but whose severely disabling injuries/conditions were 
NOT service-connected. For example, a veteran who became a 
quadriplegic from a car accident AFTER his service, would 
qualify under the designation of "catastrophically injured" so 
as to be eligible for VA healthcare even though his severely 
disabling injury was not a service-connected injury. 
Additionally, catastrophically injured" focuses more on 
injuries impacting the performance of ADL's and less on a need 
for conditions that require SPI, although PCAFC allows for 
qualification due to a severe need for SPI.
    DOD used "catastrophically disabled" as a term to discuss 
an injury category that was unlikely to ever be able to return 
to fitness to duty after injury, allowing for a service 
member's consideration for medical retirement during their 
recovery process, but there was no adoption of DOD's term 
"catastrophically disabled" in the original or MISSION Act 
legislation surrounding PCAFC. Thus, VA never adopted the DOD's 
definition of "catastrophically disabled" and instead used 
their own previously existing definition.
    Somehow, in the discussion of the PCAFC program through the 
years since the MISSION Act, the understanding of these terms 
has been confused by some organizations, veterans, and staff 
leading to a misinterpretation of the intent of the program. 
"Catastrophically injured" does NOT describe the injury 
severity for PCAFC services in either the law or the VA 
regulation. It was an "insurance" term created by VA to 
designate a priority care and payment group for VA outpatient 
healthcare services.
    QoLF believes the issue surrounding the definition of VA's 
term "catastrophically disabled" has brought to light why VA 
did not use its own definition of "catastrophically disabled". 
However, since the catastrophically disabled, as designated by 
the VA, need high levels of assistance with ADL's and/or SPI 
functioning, Congress could expand the eligibility to 
"seriously injured and those designated as qualifying for VHA 
services under VHA's definition of catastrophically disabled." 
This would allow veterans who were severely disabled after 
service, in non-service connected accidents or by non-service 
connected illnesses, to be able to reap the benefits of VHA's 
PCAFC.

      4. "Unable to self-sustain in the community":For purposes 
of determining the tier level of the veteran, the Caregiver 
Eligibility Team (CEAT) has to answer the question, "Is the 
veteran UNABLE to self-sustain in the community?" Due to the 
confusing wording of the question, QoLF identified that this 
was keeping many significantly injured veterans (quadriplegics, 
triple amputees, and veterans missing parts of their brains) 
from being placed in the highest tier for their caregiver 
stipends. These denials were not because these veterans did not 
qualify for that level of caregiving; it was because CEAT staff 
often read the question backwards. QoLF addressed this issue in 
our March 2022 SVAC testimony and addressed it with CSP 
leadership afterward. VACO CSP set up a Quality Management (QM) 
review team who did a random sampling of cases for the "unable 
to self-sustain in the community" question. Upon that first 
review, and with multiple errors documented, the field staff 
was retrained. Once the retrained field staff had time to make 
more decisions, another review was conducted. Despite many 
retrainings and examples being added to the form where the 
answer has to be given on this question, there still seem to be 
many errors regarding the interpretation of that specific 
question. This is not a legislative issue, it is a regulatory 
issue.
    QoLF believes that the VA regulation and assessments should 
reframe the question to: Is the veteran able to function in the 
community without a caregiver?

      5.  Review of past twelve months of records' review:In 
our March 2022 SVAC testimony, we addressed that a review of 
twelve months' worth of records may not accurately capture the 
veteran's needs, especially during and immediately after the 
COVID restrictions often kept patients from being seen in 
clinic. Additionally, if veterans and their practitioners have 
long-standing relationships, doctors may not take the time to 
restate a veteran's needs in every record. Conversely, due to 
the high turnover of VA physicians, a veteran and his primary 
care physician may have only met together once before an 
evaluation for PCAFC was completed by the physician.
    Most VA physicians and practitioners do not have sufficient 
time with patients during a visit to make required 
documentation (screenings, etc.). Due to their limited time, 
and these requirements, many practitioners simply copy and 
paste many of the same notes visit to visit so that they can 
pay attention to the patient. Thus, notes may not capture the 
complete condition of the veteran due to the large amount of 
information that must be collected in the very short amount of 
time that the VA allots physicians to meet with patients. ADL 
needs are neither required nor routinely documented during a 
visit with a primary care doctor, nor are the needs of 
supervision, protection, and instruction.
    This issue is NOT resolved, but this issue involves much 
more than the CSP. It is dependent upon the amount of general 
information that physicians are required to collect, the short 
period of time that VA physicians have to talk with their 
patients and record notes in the record (in some clinics this 
is 20 minutes-10 mins with the patient, 10 minutes for 
documentation), the shortage and turnover of physicians, and 
COVID which limited in person interaction between the veteran, 
caregiver, and physician. Recall that many VA clinics refused 
to allow caregivers in with veterans during COVID so physicians 
may or may not have known if a caregiver was even involved. We 
will further address this issue in our recommendations at the 
end of our testimony.

      6.  "Gathering of outside records and 
specialists'input":While the PCAFC assessment asks if the 
veteran sees outside physicians, and the assessment notes the 
answer, there is difficulty in getting the veteran's outside 
records into the VA PCAFC process. Two reasons account for the 
difficulty: VHA's understanding of their "duty to assist" and 
each facility's policy for how records are placed in the system 
at each VA. Caregiver Support Program (CSP) leadership has done 
a significant amount of training with the CSP staff on 
assisting Veterans and caregivers with gathering outside 
records and giving the records time to arrive at the VA, while 
also keeping an eye on the timeline for the PCAFC assessment 
process. This "duty to assist" in the process is a new process 
within VHA CSP. While this principle should have been 
understood because it exists within veterans Benefits 
Administration (VBA), it was not at many Veterans Health 
Administration facilities, so "duty to assist" was formalized 
by training. QoLF believes the training in "duty to assist" in 
gathering outside records for local CSP staffs will help to 
resolve this issue, but the language could be legislated to 
insure that VHA honors its "duty to assist" veterans, as VBA is 
already required to do.
    The second issue with a veteran's outside records is the 
placement of the records in a veteran's medical records. This 
is true for services provided through Community Care or through 
other insurance, TRICARE, or MEDICARE. The records must be 
received and uploaded into the VA medical records system in 
order to be considered as part of the PCAFC application. 
However, EACH veterans Affairs Medical Center (VAMC) 
Information Technology (IT) Office determines who has the 
ability to upload these records-leading to variations in 
procedures and the time needed to complete the process. Some 
facilities allow the CSP office to directly upload the records 
into the system, while others require the Primary Care Manager 
(PCM) to first go through the records to determine what needs 
to be scanned in and then send it to VA Records at the facility 
for scanning. Other facilities require that outside records be 
taken directly to a VA Records office. Further, none of these 
circumstances allow the veteran or caregiver to see the Records 
office. Further, none of these circumstances allow the veteran 
or caregiver to see the Records office. Further, none of these 
circumstances allow the veteran or caregiver to see the Records 
office. Further, none of these circumstances allow the veteran 
or caregiver to see the
    QoLF believes that VA CSP and VA IT need to coordinate and 
create a directive standardizing this process to minimize the 
variations in outcome and promote the timely inclusion of 
outside medical records in the decision making process. This is 
outside the sole scope of VACO CSP. Some medical records and 
community care records coordination and standardization 
improvements are listed in H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act.
    Additionally, a veteran's specialists such as mental health 
practitioners, neurologists, neuropsychologists, and 
orthopedists, do not routinely have the ability to directly 
offer their opinions on the functional capacity of a veteran 
during the PCAFC process. Only PCMs are consulted. As with the 
Primary Care concerns mentioned above, specialists have little 
time to document a veteran's needs. As such, much information 
about very specific treatment or assistance needs may not be 
found in the record. PCMs are asked to answer questions about 
treatment plans and institutionalization, but we know that they 
rarely answer these questions in the CSP-PCM PCAFC 
Collaboration document. The PCMs do not have time to review all 
specialists' treatment plans and, therefore, may answer in a 
way that disagrees with a specialist who treats a specific, 
debilitating condition. Local CSP staff normally answer the 
document assigned to the PCM's.
    QoLF has recommendations for this issue later in our 
testimony.

      7.  Lack of evidence provided by CEAT for admission/
discharge:VHA has conducted clinical appeals for many years for 
various programs and services. As a clinical support program, 
VHA rules apply to CSP. Previously, VHA required very little 
documentation as to why a specific treatment or program was 
approved or denied and this model continued with PCAFC. Thus, 
PCAFC decision-makers at the VAMC, Veterans Integrated Service 
Network (VISN), and CEAT levels did not have to do more than 
post the answers to the eligibility questions and whether or 
not they admitted or discharged the veteran. The VHA Clinical 
Appeals Directive 1041 governing appeals within the program did 
not require that the CEAT provide what evidence was considered 
or how the CEAT came to their decision with the specificity 
that is required in VBA decisions. The CEAT was also not 
required to share what information was lacking for admission, 
discharge, or to achieve a higher level of care.
    Under the Beaudette decision, VHA was forced to change this 
process with the notification of each level of VHA decision-
making and VHA clinical appeals for the PCAFC. The courts also 
granted a right to appeal this decision to the Board of 
Veterans Appeals.
    This was a LARGE ask of the PCAFC program as it was 
different than any other VHA program and these processes did 
not exist previously within VHA. Since the Beaudette decision, 
the PCAFC program had to create a more robust VHA clinical 
appeals process, get feedback on that process from VSOs and 
other stakeholder groups, and get training on the existing 
eight-point letters used by VBA. PCAFC then had to develop a 
model, have it approved by Office of General Counsel, develop 
the IT template, develop training on how to implement and 
complete the letter, field test it, adjust it, and then train 
and implement this enterprise wide at each VISN.
    PCAFC/VACO CSP have implemented a form that replicates all 
of the information in a VBA eight-point letter documenting the 
CEAT decision-making process. That form is required to be 
uploaded to the veteran's medical record so that it is visible 
within the record. Those forms are operational, and QoLF has 
seen them in the record. These forms provide the needed 
information to assure Veterans, caregivers, providers, and VSOs 
that the decision-making process is impartial and to clarify 
what evidence was considered during the decision process. If 
important evidence was viewed but not considered, or if 
information was missing, Veterans and caregivers now know 
exactly what needs to be considered or included for any of the 
three types of VHA clinical appeals that are now offered.
    QoLF believes development of a CEAT decision-making form 
and eight-point letter has solved the issue of being able to 
determine how a decision was made by CEAT, what information was 
considered, and if that decision complied with PCAFC 
guidelines.

Where we need to be:

    While many PCAFC issues existing prior to the March 2022 
SVAC hearing have been resolved or are in the process of 
resolution, some issues still remain, and, with closer 
scrutiny, new issues have emerged. These issues include:

      1. Lack of Congressional intent behind the expansion of 
PCAFC to older generations;
      2. PCAFC participant re-employment and retirement needs;
      3. Aging caregivers and Caregiver-GEC interaction or non-
interaction;
      4. The recommendation by some to move the program to the 
VBA;
      5. Interaction of IT policy and CSP at local facilities 
regarding outside medical records' entry; and
      6. PCM and Specialty Care Provider input in the 
assessment and evaluation process.

    As these issues have arisen, the issues have been discussed 
with the VACO CSP and during the VA CSP Summits with VSOs and 
stakeholders. The issues will require further efforts to 
resolve, either within VACO CSP/PCAFC or through regulation or 
legislation.
    Lack of Understanding of Congressional Intent Regarding 
Expansion of PCAFC:While QoLF agrees that every seriously 
injured, service-connected veteran should be eligible to apply 
for a caregiver, QoLF does recognize that the PCAFC was 
originally created to recognize young, working-aged caregivers 
leaving the workplace and not earning a wage or having the 
benefit of health insurance. In expanding this program to 
earlier generations, Congress did not clearly change this 
intention.
    While the program was never created to be a dollar-for-
dollar replacement for wages a caregiver had earned or could 
earn in the workplace, it was considered a recognition of the 
caregiver being unable to work due to the needs of the veteran. 
With the expansion of PCAFC, older Veterans with service-
connected ratings who had non-service connected serious 
conditions creating a need for assistance, were rightfully 
included in the program, and in all fairness, this was a 
necessity as proving whether or not a WWII veteran's dementia 
or diminishing ability to complete ADL's was related to a 
seventy year old injury would be virtually impossible and not 
the type of clinical decision VHA makes. However, if the 
caregiver was older, retired, and Medicare eligible, then the 
original intent of PCAFC did not apply. If the MISSION Act 
changed the intent of the program to compensate a caregiver for 
a service that would otherwise be provided by the VA, then the 
intent is changed, but there is no clear record of this change 
of intent for expansion. This means that the VA has had to 
guess at the intention of the MISSION Act expansion, making it 
difficult to figure out how to merge an existing program 
intended for a younger generation with generations of older 
Veterans for whom the original intent does not apply.
    Additionally, older cohorts of Veterans may have older 
caregivers. The expansion without an official change of 
understood intent creates the dilemma of whether or not the 
caregiver is able to care for the veteran to the extent that is 
necessary to safely keep the veteran at home. If a veteran is 
deemed eligible and in need of a caregiver, the proposed 
caregiver may be trying to do the job of caregiver, but PCAFC 
may find that for the best health outcomes, the assistance the 
veteran needs should be completed by someone other than the 
person who is now filling that role. Then the question is: Who 
fills that role?
    QoLF believes Congress needs to define the intent of the 
expansion of PCAFC to clarify that the mission of the program 
is to "recognize the sacrifice of caregivers for providing 
services that would otherwise be required to be provided by the 
VA." Additionally, a clarification would assist in the 
standardization of the program between generations and VISNs 
across the country.
    Retirement needs of PCAFC Caregivers:When Congress created 
PCAFC, as discussed the intent was to serve a younger veteran 
population, the vast majority of caregivers were spouses or 
siblings of young Veterans or middle-aged parents of young, 
injured Veterans. Many of those caregivers, referred to as 
Legacy caregivers, had short work histories due to their age at 
the time of becoming caregivers. Their injured veteran also had 
little time in the work world.
    While PCAFC was never meant to be a dollar-for-dollar 
replacement for wages lost, designating the stipend as unearned 
income has created a growing concern as these caregivers age 
and have no way to contribute to either Social Security or a 
retirement fund. Some caregivers will exit PCAFC when their 
Veterans pass away, years before they are eligible to draw from 
retirement plans, but they will have expired employment 
certifications or will need to prove their worth in a new 
workplace after having been out of their professional fields 
while they were caregiving. In addition, due to the nature of 
the veteran injuries, these survivors will not receive any 
significant life insurance making the survivor financial 
outlook bleak.
    Department of Defense programs exist for military spouses 
as they move duty station to duty station so that they can re-
certify their employment certificates or receive new training. 
The Department of Labor has a model for returnship programs for 
older workers who return to the workplace after an absence. VA 
should develop models to help caregivers return to the 
workplace and save for retirement so that caregivers do not 
pass from PCAFC into poverty with the passage of their 
Veterans. Also, in light of this, employment that does not 
interfere with the duties of caregiving should not be held 
against a caregiver's suitability.
    QoLF believes that Congress should assist caregivers to 
renew their employment certifications that lapsed due to 
caregiving responsibilities and to re-enter the workplace 
through returnship programs. Congress should study creating a 
mechanism for which PCAFC caregivers earning the stipend would 
be allowed to contribute to retirement accounts to secure their 
financial futures into retirement as is outlined in S. 3885 the 
Veteran Caregiver Re-education, Re-employment, and Retirement 
Act of 2024.
    Aging caregivers and PCAFC-GEC interaction:When PCAFC finds 
a veteran in need of assistance, but the caregiver is not able 
to safely provide the care the veteran needs, an alternate 
caregiver needs to be found. In addition, some Veterans have 
such significant needs that they need a combination of support 
services to stay safely in their homes. Sometimes, another 
family member is available, but Geriatrics and Extended Care 
(GEC) programs through the VA, including Homemaker/Home Health 
Aide (HHA) and Veteran Directed Care (VDC), are also an option 
to fill those caregiving needs. However, a number of problems 
exist with the assumption that other GEC programs will 
automatically replace a caregiver:

      1. Until recently, PCAFC did not track referrals to GEC 
from PCAFC, allowing for loss of PCAFC to create a vacuum in 
the assistance for the veteran because GEC did not initiate an 
evaluation of the veteran for services.
    QoLF does believe PCAFC has implemented a request that a 
veteran and caregiver will be connected to GEC for evaluation 
for GEC programs in the absence of a qualifying caregiver, but 
QoLF remains concerned that the GEC programs may not be able to 
fill the need in a timely manner. This is addressed in H.R. 
8371, the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans 
Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act.
      2. There is a GEC case mix tool that determines the 
number of hours that a veteran may receive care from both GEC 
and CSP programs. While GEC leadership says that the hours that 
are recommended for levels of care are suggested numbers of 
hours, many VA facilities and local GEC programs take these 
hours as hard limits. As a result, caregivers who live in the 
home and provide care 24 hours a day, seven days a week, are 
replaced by VA GEC programs that offer hard limits of either 
32, or with an exception 56, hours a week. Please understand, 
that means a caregiver is still doing 112 hours of caregiving 
each week as those Veterans with the most significant needs 
often require care at night as well. VA has simply taken away 
the stipend and provided some help, if GEC providers are 
available.
    QoLF believes the case mix tool needs to be reviewed to 
acknowledge that some Veterans require more care than is 
currently allotted. The program and the GEC case mix tool need 
to be flexible to accommodate the varying care needs of 
Veterans and not be hard limits. QoLF believes Congress needs 
to further examine the interaction of GEC programs and 
services. This is addressed in H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act.
      3. GEC providers are unavailable. In many areas, agencies 
and providers who are contracted to provide care through HHA 
and Respite programs are unable to find workers to fill the 
required number of hours on the contract. Many times this is 
due to low compensation rates offered by the VA, and while the 
VA does have mechanisms to increase compensation to meet the 
market demand, it is extremely underutilized. In addition, due 
in part to low wages, providers often do not show up at their 
assigned time, and there is no way for caregivers and Veterans 
to directly report this information to the VA. They can report 
it to the contracted agency, but the agency may or may not find 
a replacement aide, once again leaving caregivers and Veterans 
without help. In a few cases of older caregivers, we do know 
that some used their PCAFC stipends to pay for private 
providers. When their PCAFC stipends were taken away, they 
could no longer private pay for aides and VA programs were 
unable to find agencies to fulfill contracts for HHAs and 
Respite, creating greater health issues for caregivers and 
Veterans. In one of our recent cases, a caregiver was 
discharged from the program, specifically so she could be given 
more HHA hours. Of the 32 hours she was granted for HHA care 
through an agency, fewer than half of them were being filled by 
the agency due to staffing shortages. She was having to call 
EMS repeatedly to help her get the veteran up to bathe and 
change him, which is what the HHA contracted care was supposed 
to help her do.
    QoLF recommends that a mechanism be created for local VAMCs 
to be trained in how to raise reimbursement rates quickly when 
rates drop below competitive area rates for Home Health 
workers. In addition, the VA needs to better track when 
providers are not showing up for shifts and develop options to 
address this problem to potentially include paying family 
caregivers who are providing care for a veteran when a 
contracted agent is supposed to be doing so. VA should also not 
be able to discharge a veteran or caregiver from PCAFC, except 
in cases of fraud or abuse, without GEC care being in place if 
the reason for dismissal is that the caregiver is deemed unable 
to fulfill the assistance needs of the veteran. This is 
addressed in H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century 
Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act.
      4. The Veteran Directed Care Program (VDC) is an 
invaluable tool within the VA that allows Veterans to create 
flexible budgets to provide for their own clinical support 
needs, including caregiving. While we have understood that some 
have suggested that the VDC program replace CSP, QoLF does not 
agree. Currently, many VAMC's do not offer VDC, and even those 
that do often do not have a dedicated staff member to 
administer the program. In addition, Medical Center Directors 
are hesitant to implement the program because they are paid by 
reimbursement and the VAMC must provide the funding up front. 
Furthermore, the problems with finding providers for VDC are 
often the same as HHA and Respite. Lastly, while sometimes 
preferred, VDC places a significant paperwork and accounting 
burden on the veteran or family member which can be especially 
difficult for older Veterans and caregivers. In some cases, due 
to the case mix matrix mentioned above, that family member now 
performing these administrative duties may be a former 
caregiver who is no longer allowed to participate in the 
caregiver program, but still has to provide all the caregiving 
services except for the limited hours that are now provided by 
a VDC caregiver.
    QoLF believes that the VDC program can be a good option for 
some caregivers, but the CSP program provides a much more 
comprehensive host of services and is administratively less 
burdensome to the caregiver.
    The recommendation to move PCAFC eligibility from VHA to 
VBA:Some have recommended that VBA has a better evaluation 
process to decide if Veterans qualify for programs based on 
disabilities than VHA. While QoLF acknowledges that VBA does 
make eligibility decisions for benefits, PCAFC is a clinical 
support program as defined by statute, an area in which VBA has 
no experience. The purposes are different and not comparable, 
and VBA has no viable way to determine eligibility for a 
clinical program. If PCAFC eligibility were shifted to VBA, why 
wouldn't the eligibility for Homemaker/Home Health Aide, 
Veteran Directed Care, or Home-Based Primary Care (HBPC), all 
clinical support programs, be made through VBA?
    Additionally, some have argued that veteran service 
officers did not have access to PCAFC records. To resolve this, 
VSO's simply needed to ask Veterans and caregivers to provide a 
copy of the veteran's medical records. All of the PCAFC 
documentation was in the medical record, and VHA has now 
created an online portal where VSOs have access to view 
documentation for VHA Supplemental Claims and VHA Higher-Level 
Reviews. The Board of Veterans Appeals works in concert with 
PCAFC to obtain all documentation related to cases submitted to 
the Board. That documentation is and always has been available 
to the VSOs.
    QoLF feels this issue has been resolved by the developments 
in PCAFC after the Beaudette decision implementation. However, 
QoLF believes that the VA should explore the opportunity to 
establish a "pathway to advocacy" through VHA where 
organizations, traditional VSOs and other nonprofit 
organizations, can be trained on the services and programs 
available to Veterans through VHA, be given points of contact 
for those program to connect Veterans, and create a release of 
information that is recognized throughout the VA so qualified 
organizations can advocate on a veteran's behalf. "Pathway to 
Advocacy" is included in H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth Dole 
21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act.
    Interaction between PCAFC and IT:As discussed earlier, QoLF 
believes VACO CSP and VA IT/ VA Medical Records need to create 
a unified policy for how a veteran's outside provider records 
(whether CCN or private pay) are uploaded to the VHA medical 
record and PCAFC application to be viewed. This important issue 
should not be left to a facility by facility decision.
    PCM and specialists' input in the assessment and evaluation 
process:Because VA PCMs and specialty care providers have 
little time to document needs for assistance in the medical 
records leaving an absence in the record of documentation of 
the veteran's need(s) for assistance, a uniform way to document 
these needs becomes necessary. While we understand that 
clinicians may not want to weigh in directly through a 
questionnaire in the assessment process, it is important that 
these practitioners are able to document the needs of the 
veteran in both ADLs and SPI.
    QoLF would offer some suggestions to see that PCMs' and 
specialty care providers' input is provided:

      1) Congress should remove the language "to the maximum 
extent possible" when describing the input of the physician in 
the MISSION Act;
      2) VA creates a form that is filled out once a year where 
the PCM documents a discussion of a veteran's ADL's and makes a 
decision to refer to Occupational Therapy (OT)/Physical 
Medicine and Rehab for a Functional Independence Measurement 
and Functional Assessment Measurement score (FIM-FAMs) or full 
OT exam. Mental Health Providers and/or neurologists would be 
required to complete a SLUMS (or similar mental status) score 
yearly and decide if further evaluations or service referrals 
were needed; and
      3) VHA should develop a training for all medical 
providers within VA to address why documenting current needs, 
even if takes time and is repetitive, is needed for the PCAFC 
evaluation, as well as other clinical support services that VHA 
provides.

    QoLF does not believe that there is any ill intent, simply 
a lack of time, on the part of providers to document all the 
needs of a veteran carefully. Requiring a veteran's medical 
specialists, not just the PCM, to participate in PCAFC, is 
included in H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century 
Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act.

Conclusion

    QoLF appreciates the opportunity to offer feedback in the 
form of updates and recommendations on the state of PCAFC. We 
would like to again offer praise for Dr. Richardson and her 
VACO CSP team. Since Dr. Richardson's tenure in the VA CSP 
began in February 2021, she was tasked with continuing to 
implement a program that had a regulation, directive, and 
assessment developed prior to her arrival. When confronted with 
the challenges created by the processes established prior to 
her arrival to the program, Dr. Richardson and her team have 
acknowledged these issues and made a concerted effort to 
conduct quality management reviews; to rectify what they can 
within the program themselves through training and guidance to 
the locals, VISNs, or national program; to engage with 
stakeholders about changes that are needed and should be 
proposed; and she has taken action on all feedback she has been 
given. While we feel PCAFC has had many stops and starts, QoLF 
feels that the Program, which has not before existed in any 
medical setting in the United States, is today on a footing to 
work out the final problems and be the extremely successful 
program that Veterans and caregivers need it to be and the 
program Congress intended it to be.
    We urge the passage of H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act to codify important changes within PCAFC to codify 
important changes to PCAFC. Additionally we request the passage 
of S. 3885 the Veteran Caregiver Re-education, Re-employment, 
and Retirement Act of 2024 which would create pathways for 
caregivers to return to employment when they are finished with 
their caregiving duties and allow them to save for retirement 
while they are fulfilling their caregivers duties so they do 
not wind up destitute in their later years. Thank you for the 
opportunity to present our testimony to you today.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

"Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers""

                              June 5, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Statement

                              Fred Sganga

    Chairmen Casey and Tester, Ranking Members Braun and Moran, 
and Members of the Committees:
    Thank you for inviting the National Association of State 
Veterans Homes (NASVH) to testify on ways to improve and expand 
support for aging Veterans and their caregivers. As you may 
know, NASVH is an all-volunteer organization dedicated to 
promoting and enhancing the quality of care and life for the 
Veterans and families in our Homes through education, 
networking, and advocacy. Today, there are 165 VA-recognized 
State Veterans Homes (SVHs) across the nation operating 158 
skilled nursing care programs, 47 domiciliary care programs, 
and three adult day health care (ADHC) programs. All 165 SVHs 
are members of NASVH, the only organization that represents 
their collective interests, and our membership is expected to 
continue growing with 13 new Homes expected to seek VA 
recognition by the end of next year.
    I am currently the Legislative Officer and a past President 
of NASVH, however my full-time job is Executive Director of the 
Long Island State Veterans Home at Stony Brook University, a 
340-bed skilled nursing facility serving honorably discharged 
Veterans and their families. I also serve as an adjunct 
professor in the Graduate Healthcare Administration Programs at 
Stony Brook University and Hofstra University, where I lecture 
on the topics of healthcare leadership and long-term care 
management.

Background of the State Veterans Home System

    Messers Chairmen, the State Veterans Homes program is a 
partnership between the federal government and State 
governments that dates back to the post-Civil War period. To 
help cover the cost of care for Veterans who choose to reside 
in SVHs, VA provides per diem payments at different rates for 
skilled nursing care, domiciliary care, and ADHC. VA also 
provides State Home Construction Grants to cover up to 65 
percent of the cost to build, renovate, and repair SVHs, with 
States required to provide at least 35 percent in matching 
funds.
    Today, there are over 30,000 authorized State Home beds 
providing a mix of skilled nursing and domiciliary care. SVHs 
provide approximately half of all federally-supported 
institutional long-term care for our nation's Veterans 
according to VA's most recent budget submission. However, State 
Veterans Homes will consume less than 20% of VA's total FY 2024 
obligations for Veterans' long-term nursing home care.
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    According to VA, the institutional per diem for SVH skilled 
nursing care is approximately $262; by comparison, the rate for 
private sector community nursing homes is about 60% higher 
($424), while the rate for VA's Community Living Centers (CLCs) 
is about 750% higher ($1,971). Although there are important 
differences among these programs that account for some of the 
cost differences, it's clear that the SVH partnership provides 
tremendous value for VA by leveraging matching State funding 
for the benefit of the we serve. 
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Oversight of State Homes

    VA certifies and closely monitors the care and treatment of 
in SVHs, which includes a comprehensive recognition survey 
before any new Home can be certified to receive federal 
financial support, and an annual inspection surveys to assure 
resident safety, high-quality clinical care, and sound 
financial operations. SVHs must meet extensive VA regulations 
covering more than 200 clinical standards, in addition to 
dozens of fire and life safety standards.
    About 75 percent of State Homes are also certified to 
receive Medicare support for their residents and must undergo 
annual inspections by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid 
Services (CMS) to assure safety and quality care. In addition, 
State Homes usually function within or are overseen by a 
state's department or division of' affairs, public health, or 
other accountable agency, and typically operate under the 
governance and oversight of a board of trustees, a board of 
visitors, or other similar accountable public body.
Aging Need a Full Spectrum of long-term Care Options

    Today, there are an estimated 8.3 million living aged 65 or 
older, approximately 4.9 million who are 75 or older, and 1.3 
million who are 85 or older. VA data shows that SVHs care for a 
significantly older veteran population than either VA CLCs or 
community (contracted) nursing homes. State Homes also provide 
more long-stay care and more end-of-life care, as would be 
expected for their older veteran population. In total, the 
average daily census (ADC) for all VA-supported nursing home, 
both long and short stay, is only about 32,000; which is less 
than one-half of 1% of the approximately 8.3 million living 65 
or older, and just over 2% of those 85 plus; and these 
percentages are projected by VA to drop in future years.
    Over the past decade, VA has been placing greater focus and 
resources on home- and community-based services (HCBS) and 
NASVH strongly supports expanding these services to provide 
aging a full spectrum of long-term care options. However, the 
amount of nursing home care offered by VA today is woefully 
inadequate compared to the overall number of eligible. Although 
the need for nursing home care may diminish as the veteran 
population declines in future years, it will never go away: 
there will always be significant numbers of who lack adequate 
family support to allow them to age at home. There are also 
many of who will be able to utilize HCBS to remain in their 
homes for as long as possible but will eventually reach an age 
and stage where traditional nursing home care is necessary. For 
these reasons, Congress and VA must continue to make smart 
investments to sustain and expand traditional bed-based care. 
VA should expand home- and community-based care, but it should 
be an addition to, not a subtraction from facility-based care.
    NASVH and our member State Veterans Homes will continue to 
seek new and innovative ways of delivering long-term services 
to aging and ill Veterans, including through a range of 
graduated care options for Veterans who need support to age in 
place. SVHs understand aging Veterans' needs and have expertise 
in connecting them with their VA benefits and services. With 
our clinical knowledge and extensive infrastructure, State 
Veterans Homes could serve as hubs in communities across the 
country, particularly in rural areas, to offer aging Veterans a 
full spectrum of long-term support services, including home-
based care.

Opportunities to Expand SVH Adult Day Health Care Programs

    In addition to skilled nursing and domiciliary care 
programs, SVHs are authorized to offer Adult Day Health Care 
(ADHC), which is a non-institutional alternative to a skilled 
nursing facility for aging Veterans who have sufficient family 
support to remain in their own homes, but who need or will 
benefit from a day program that promotes wellness, health 
maintenance, and socialization. ADHC can help to maximize the 
participant's independence and enhance their quality of life, 
as well as provide much-needed respite for family caregivers.
    Medical Supervision Model ADHC provides a higher-level of 
care, including comprehensive medical, nursing, and personal 
care services combined with social activities for physically or 
cognitively impaired adults. This program is staffed by teams 
of multi-disciplinary healthcare professionals who evaluate 
each participant and customize an individualized plan of care 
specific to their health and social needs. There are currently 
only three State Veterans Homes operating ADHC programs - New 
York, Minnesota, and Hawaii - although several other states are 
working on plans that could lead to additional programs in the 
future.
    At the Long Island State Veteran Home, we have a 40 slot 
Medical Model ADHC program, with about 75 Veterans currently 
enrolled. We operate a six day-a-week program, Monday through 
Saturday, for six hours each day, from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM. We 
also provide door-through-door transportation that is fully 
wheelchair accessible, with ambulettes picking up the Veterans 
and returning them home at the end of the day. We provide these 
Veterans with the full array of clinical services offered at 
our skilled nursing facility, while allowing them to live in 
their own home. Those services include physical, occupational, 
and speech therapies; clinical nutritional counseling, along 
with three meals (includes dinner to go); recreational 
activities provided by a Certified Therapeutic Recreation 
Specialist (CTRS); along with personal care, including bathing, 
grooming, and hair care. Our ADHC program helps to improve the 
quality of life and maintain the independence of the veteran. 
We also help stabilize chronic medical conditions, reduce 
emergency room visits and potential hospitalizations, delay or 
prevent nursing home placement, and provide significant respite 
support for caregivers. In fact, we can save a caregiver 
multiple trips it would take to provide all the services we are 
able to provide in one day.
    ADHC programs can be a critical lifeline for both Veterans 
and their caregivers, as shown in the story of one of our 
residents, West Point graduate and Army Colonel Mike Grabel. 
After a heavily decorated 27 year military career, that 
included three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, Mike had a 
stroke. For the next two years, he required hospital care and 
faced the knowledge that he would need significant physical 
therapy and extensive support for the rest of his life. His 
wife Jeannine was with him every step of the way during his 
recovery. Due to the level of support Mike required, and the 
need for Jeannine to return to work, they had to consider 
whether the best option was placement in a skilled nursing 
facility. Fortunately, we were able to offer Mike the option of 
enrolling in our Adult Day Health Care program. Today, Mike 
receives the care and support he requires six days a week, 
including door-through-door transportation, nutritious meals, 
and comprehensive medical and personal care services. Jeannine 
was able to return to work as a school nurse, secure in the 
knowledge that her loved one is in good hands.
    To increase Veterans' access to SVH ADHC programs, NASVH 
offers two recommendations. First, VA and Congress should 
modify and/or clarify current regulations so that the State 
Veterans Home Construction Grant program can be used to 
construct, modify, or expand SVH facilities to operate new or 
expand existing ADHC programs. VA's current interpretation of 
federal regulations does not allow a SVH to apply for a 
construction grant in order to begin a new ADHC program; it may 
only seek a grant to expand or replace a facility being used 
currently for ADHC. Although dozens of states have expressed 
interest and taken steps towards offering adult day health care 
services, the single greatest barrier to entry is the 
construction of new or modification of existing space to 
properly operate an ADHC program. We call on Congress to work 
with VA to make this commonsense adjustment to encourage 
expansion of SVH ADHC programs.
    Second, VA should authorize and take actions to encourage 
SVHs to establish satellite ADHC programs outside their 
facilities and campuses in more conveniently located areas 
where there are high concentrations of Veterans who could use 
these services. The Long Island State Veteran Home's ADHC 
program can only serve Veterans in Suffolk County because of 
the distance they would have to travel. However, we have been 
working for several years to open a satellite ADHC program in 
Nassau County, which would open up this life-changing service 
as an option to thousands of additional Veterans and family 
caregivers.

Additional Home-Based Care Services in State Veterans Homes

    In addition to expanding ADHC programs, NASVH also 
recommends that Congress and VA explore other ways for SVHs to 
develop new home-based programs, including ones similar to VA's 
Home Based Primary Care, Homemaker Home Health Aide Care, 
Respite Care, Palliative Care and Skilled Home Health Care. For 
example, during the COVID pandemic, I was forced to temporarily 
shut down our ADHC program under State orders intended to 
protect Veterans. However, I was able to pivot to an innovative 
program that supported the Veterans enrolled in our ADHC 
program by providing meals, PPE, telehealth, and home care 
visits. VA was able to support this temporary program using 
emergency powers granted to the Secretary during the pandemic.
    Given the flexibility and financial benefits to VA from 
partnering with State Veterans Homes, there are myriad 
possibilities for better addressing the changing demographics, 
needs and preferences of Veterans today and in the future. Many 
State Veterans Homes already offer a number of medical and 
therapeutic services that could be provided on an outpatient 
basis for Veterans participating in home-based programs.
    With our expertise on the needs of aging Veterans, SVHs 
could develop an array of home-based services to support 
Veterans who want to age in their own homes. When they are no 
longer able to remain at home, SVHs could ease their 
transitions to facility-based skilled nursing care. Such an 
integrated non-institutional program could begin as a pilot 
program, with different states customizing it to meet local 
circumstances. NASVH recommends that Congress consider 
establishing pilot programs to explore new arrangements for 
providing integrated home- and community-based programs through 
and in partnership with State Veterans Homes, offering a full 
spectrum of support from home care to skilled nursing care.

Expanding the Spectrum of Care in State Veterans Homes via 
Assisted Living

    State Homes currently offer two levels of residential care: 
skilled nursing care for those who need significant support 
completing activities of daily living (ADLs) and domiciliary 
care, for those who are able to complete their ADLs, but 
require shelter, food, and other basic necessities. With 
millions of aging Veterans no longer able to live 
independently, but whose needs fall in between these two levels 
of VA-supported care, NASVH believes it is time to begin 
offering assisted living programs in State Veterans Homes, 
which could offer greater support than offered by domiciliary 
care and would cost less than skilled nursing care.
    NASVH was pleased to offer our strongest support for S. 
495, the Expanding Veterans' Options for Long-Term Care Act, 
legislation that would authorize VA to create a three-year 
pilot program to provide assisted living care for Veterans. In 
particular, we appreciated the inclusion of State Veterans 
Homes. We understand that a scaled-down version of the pilot 
program is part of the omnibus Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st 
Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act and we 
hope that all Senators will support this legislation. On behalf 
of our member State Homes and the Veterans we serve, I want to 
thank Senators Tester and Moran for introducing this 
legislation.

Continuing Challenges Facing State Veterans Homes

    Messers Chairmen, State Veterans Homes are still recovering 
from the severe impacts of the COVID pandemic, particularly 
with regard to their financial operations, as every State Home 
had to significantly increase expenditures for PPE, cleaning 
and sanitizing supplies, and laundry services. Homes also had 
enormous increases in personnel costs to cover wages, overtime, 
hazard pay, sick leave and temporary agency staffing. In 
addition, many Homes made modifications to buildings and rooms 
for isolation and further enhanced sanitization measures to 
include new technologies and new equipment.
    During this same time, occupancy levels in most SVHs 
declined because new admissions were suspended, leaving an 
increasing number of beds empty. Today, SVHs still face 
significant challenges in bringing their occupancy rates back 
up to normal levels, primarily due to national staffing 
shortages that are impacting all health care facilities. As a 
result, the level of VA per diem support provided each year to 
State Veterans Homes has declined significantly in recent 
years, creating serious financial challenges for Homes to 
remain solvent at a time when their State budgets are also in 
crisis. Although VA is authorized to pay a basic per diem that 
covers up to 50% of the cost of a veteran's care, the basic per 
diem rate in recent years has been less than 30% of the actual 
cost. NASVH is seeking new legislation that would set the basic 
per diem rate permanently at 50% of the daily cost of care.
    NASVH is also seeking support from Congress to fully fund 
the State Home Construction Grant program. Over the past 
decade, annual appropriations for this program have been 
extremely volatile: typically providing funding for only a 
small portion of the qualified state matching grants, with 
occasional bursts of funding to catch up to the full demand. 
The backlog of Priority Group one State Home Construction 
Grants, which includes critical life-safety projects, continues 
to rise far beyond available federal funding. When the overdue 
FY 2024 Priority list is released later this year, it is 
expected to show a need for at least $1.2 billion in federal 
funds to match what the States have already made available.
    Unfortunately, Congress appropriated just $164 million for 
FY 2024, less than 15% of the amount required to fully fund the 
program. For FY 2025, VA requested just $141 million, though 
the House Appropriations Committee proposed slightly increasing 
that funding level to $154 million in a vote last week. NASVH 
is seeking support from Congress to substantially increase 
funding for the State Home Construction Grant program - to at 
least $600 million in FY 2025.
    The funding gap is even worse than it looks due to VA's 
unwillingness to provide "Build America, Buy America Act" 
(BABAA) waivers for State Home Construction Grants. As you may 
know BABAA - which was approved in 2022 and became effective in 
2023 - requires the federal government and recipients of 
federal grants to buy most materials and products from US 
manufacturers. However, the law included a waiver provision for 
projects that would have a very hard, if not impossible, time 
complying with the new domestic content requirements due to the 
unavailability U.S. made components and materials, or the 
extremely high cost of U.S. made products. There is 
particularly a sourcing problem for HVAC systems, 
refrigeration, generators, transformers, electrical controls, 
and LED lighting fixtures, that are virtually impossible to 
procure from U.S. manufacturers.
    A number of States that previously received conditional 
grant approvals from VA prior to BABAA's effective date, and 
who have already expended significant funds for planning, 
design, and/or long-lead procurement, are now threatened with 
the loss of federal matching funds, which will almost certainly 
force them to delay or cancel these much-need construction 
projects. Without this legislation and these BABAA waivers, 
many States will have to cancel vital construction projects, 
and as a result thousands of aging and disabled Veterans would 
lose the opportunity to receive high-quality long-term care in 
a State Veteran Home.
    Legislation was introduced in the Senate and House ("WAIVER 
Act", S. 3886 & H.R. 7514) to require that VA use its statutory 
authority to provide State Veterans Homes one-time transitional 
waivers from certain "Build America, Buy America Act" (BABAA) 
requirements that would otherwise prevent many State Veterans 
Homes from receiving VA funding for critical construction 
projects. We would urge all Senators to consider supporting 
this legislation.

Clinical Staffing Challenges

    Messers Chairmen, the biggest challenge facing State 
Veterans Homes is the shortage of clinical professionals. As 
these Committees are certainly aware, there is a national 
staffing crisis affecting virtually every health care system, 
especially for nurses and other critical clinical positions, 
and particularly in rural and remote areas. State Homes are 
already challenged in hiring and retaining staff because of 
workforce shortages and the significant competition from local 
hospitals, higher-paying transitionary agency positions (e.g., 
traveling nurses), and other private employers. Current 
staffing shortages are impacting veteran access to care since 
many SVHs are turning away new admissions due to their 
inability to recruit, hire, and retain sufficient staffing.
    Furthermore, the recent promulgation by CMS of new minimum 
staffing standards will further exacerbate our challenges. It 
is estimated that nearly 94 percent of nursing homes nationwide 
do not currently meet at least one or more of the three 
proposed CMS requirements. Although many SVHs are already in 
compliance, these new standards will increase competition for a 
limited labor pool - particularly for nurses. These new 
staffing minimums could result in SVHs being forced to restrict 
the number of Veterans they can serve, and it is possible we 
could see some SVHs close altogether, with both scenarios 
leaving aging and disabled Veterans at risk.
    We have been grateful for VA's Nurse Recruitment and 
Retention Scholarship program which has had a positive impact 
on a number of SVHs. We are asking Congress to expand that 
program so that more Homes can benefit from it. At the same 
time, we believe that a similar program for other critical 
staffing vacancies - such as physical therapists, dieticians, 
social workers, etc. - could help boost the ability of SVHs to 
compete with private sector employers who are able to offer 
higher salaries and benefit packages. We hope to work with 
Congress to develop new and innovative programs that will help 
SVHs recruit and retain sufficient staffing to allow more 
Veterans to be served by our Homes.

Strengthening NASVH-VA Partnership

    Finally, to maximize the effective use of State Veterans 
Homes' resources and capabilities. VA must finally commit 
itself to a full and meaningful partnership with States. Too 
often, SVHs are an afterthought in VA's planning and budgeting 
processes. This is exemplified by the continuing lack of 
representation by State Veterans Homes on VA's Geriatrics and 
Gerontology Advisory Committee (GGAC), despite NASVH having 
nominated multiple highly-qualified State Home administrators 
and leaders in recent years.
    Messers Chairmen, State Veterans Homes can and must play a 
greater role in meeting the needs of aging Veterans and their 
caregivers in partnership with VA and other federal agencies. 
NASVH looks forward to continuing to work with these Committees 
and your colleagues in the Senate to ensure that Veterans have 
greater access to a full spectrum of long-term care options, 
whether at home or in nursing homes. That concludes my 
statement, and I would be pleased to answer any questions that 
you or Members of the Committees may have.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

"Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers""

                              June 5, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Statement

                             Meredith Beck

    Chairmen Casey and Tester, Ranking Members Braun and Moran, 
and Members of the Committees, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify today. My name is Meredith Beck, and I am the Senior 
Policy Advisor for the Elizabeth Dole Foundation (EDF), a 
national non-profit whose mission is to strengthen, empower, 
and support America's military and veteran caregivers and their 
families by raising public awareness, driving research, 
championing policy, and leading collaborations that make a 
significant positive impact on their lives. By working with 
military and veteran caregivers every day through our numerous 
programs including Hidden Heroes Communities, our Hidden 
Helpers initiative for caregiver children, the Hope Fund which 
provides financial relief directly for caregivers, our mental 
wellness workshops, and through our network of Dole Caregiver 
Fellows in every state, EDF is keenly aware of and has a unique 
perspective on the challenges, issues, and remarkable strength 
of the military and veteran caregiving community we are honored 
to serve.

U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Caregiver Support Program/
Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers

    The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC) remains 
a significant concern among all generations of veteran 
caregivers. We wish to strongly align ourselves with the 
comments and recommendations made by our partner, the Quality 
of Life Foundation (QoL), who has clearly articulated the 
program's current challenges in their written testimony. EDF is 
proud to sponsor the vital, specialized clinical appeals work 
done by the QoL. As we await the public release of new 
regulations governing PCAFC, we look forward to continuing to 
work with QoL to ensure that veteran caregivers are given the 
support they need and deserve.
    With respect to the new PCAFC regulations, EDF notes that 
the legacy cohort of eligible caregivers, those post-9/11 
veteran caregivers who were admitted to the program prior to 
September 30, 2020, yet again face an uncertain future. Many of 
these caregivers have repeatedly been found eligible for the 
program over the years and endured multiple pauses, regulation 
and leadership changes, lack of previous program 
standardization, and questionable assessments. While eligible 
post-9/11 veteran caregivers have benefitted from the monthly 
stipend included in the PCAFC, the emotional toil and financial 
uncertainty caused by programmatic instability in the PCAFC 
have weighed heavily on caregivers and Veterans alike. 
Therefore, EDF asks Congress to work with relevant veteran 
service organizations to consider "grandfathering" this 
population of caregivers into the PCAFC, except in cases of 
fraud, waste, or abuse. This would allow the Caregiver Support 
Program (CSP) to focus on its mission of supporting all 
generations of caregivers rather than continuing this years-
long division within the veteran caregiving community.
    As the VA works to improve support for veteran caregivers 
of all generations, we would like to commend the Caregiver 
Support Program for their efforts to dramatically increase the 
use of respite care for eligible individuals by over 200% 
percent through the enactment of "respite champions," VA 
employees whose job it is to support access and coordinate 
services for those seeking to use respite services. 
Additionally, the recent availability of mental health support 
for veteran caregivers enrolled in PCAFC has served as a 
lifeline for many who previously struggled without access to 
care. While caregiving for a loved one can be incredibly 
rewarding for the caregiver and often is vital for the well-
being of the veteran, the mental health toll on caregivers can 
be daunting, as has been noted in numerous RAND studies. 
Therefore, we encourage Congress to broaden access to mental 
health care for those beyond PCAFC to include those enrolled in 
the Program of General Caregiver Support Services (PGCSS) under 
CSP.
    Further, we were delighted to learn of the Administration's 
FY2025 budget request that included an approximately 20% 
increase in spending for support and services within CSP. 
However, we were disappointed to learn recently that, despite 
the budget request increase and expected program expansion, CSP 
will not be offered a waiver like other VA programs from the 
current specific purpose funding restrictions. This means that, 
in most cases, CSP will not be allowed to hire the front-line 
social workers, program managers, and nurses that make the 
program most effective at the local level. This hiring freeze 
will almost certainly have a detrimental effect on caregivers, 
Veterans, and VA staff who work very hard to support those in 
the program.

Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act

    In addition to CSP, the VA has many programs that, when 
accessed, benefit veteran caregivers both directly and 
indirectly, most of which are housed under Geriatric and 
Extended Care (GEC). At EDF, we see the positive things that 
can happen when Veterans and caregivers are connected by 
caring, passionate providers and social workers to vital 
programs and services. Additional respite services, the Veteran 
Directed, Home-Based Primary Care and the Homemaker Home Health 
Aide are just some of the programs that support the care and 
quality of life of Veterans and caregivers, especially at home 
and can serve as a lifeline for Veterans and caregivers in 
need.
    Where available, the Veteran Directed Program, for example, 
has high satisfaction rates among Veterans and caregivers 
across the country. This program, a joint offering from the VA 
and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), offers 
Veterans and caregivers greater choice and control over their 
care and services by allowing participants to hire familiar 
friends and family members to provide unskilled care, 
transportation, skilled care, and other goods and services. 
Veterans and caregivers can supervise their own employees and 
hire additional support during the hours that are needed rather 
than being subject to agency hours and restrictions. In 
addition, this program has been especially helpful to those who 
struggle to find appropriate care in their homes either due to 
contracted agency employee absences or the general dearth of 
HHA providers around the country as noted in the President's 
Executive Order from April 2023.
    Unfortunately, despite being created more than sixteen 
years ago and its demonstrated success, Veteran Directed is 
still not available in every VA medical center. In many cases, 
VA staff are unfamiliar with the program even if it is 
technically available at the facility, or the program exists in 
name only without the appropriate staff available to ensure its 
availability and success.
    For example, Mary Ward, a Dole Caregiver Fellow, cares for 
her 100% service-disabled veteran husband and 14-year 
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) patient, Tom, who receives 
care from the Durham VA Medical Center. Mary is an astute and 
effective advocate for Tom. In 2019, once Mary found out 
another high-need veteran in the area was enrolled in the 
Veteran Directed Program, she began the process of trying to 
get Tom enrolled. During the intervening years, she has been 
told repeatedly that the program was still unavailable in 
Durham, again, despite knowing another veteran was enrolled. 
Finally, after significant effort on Mary's part and 
intervention from EDF, the VA reversed course and Mary was told 
within the last two weeks that the agency would try to enroll 
Tom in the Veteran Directed Program. If enrolled, Mary will be 
able to hire her own, familiar home health and respite care 
support to ensure they are meeting Tom's significant needs.
    This process should not and cannot be this difficult for 
Veterans and caregivers. As a result of situations like Mary 
and Tom's, Ranking Member Moran was joined by Chairman Tester 
and others to introduce S. 141, The Elizabeth Dole Home Care 
Act. In addition to mandating that every VA medical center 
provide the Veteran Directed Program, the legislation takes a 
holistic approach to ensuring this and other GEC programs are 
offered nationwide and appropriately staffed. The bill also 
attempts to ensures that caregivers have access to information 
on available programs and services in a centralized digital 
location and requires the coordination of other available 
services if a caregiver is denied or discharged from PCAFC for 
reasons other than waste, fraud or abuse.
    Most notably, the legislation increases the expenditure cap 
for non-institutional care from 65% to 100% of the cost of the 
closest VA Community Living Center (CLC). This would allow the 
most vulnerable Veterans and caregivers the support they need 
to stay in their homes, often leading to better outcomes for 
veteran families, like the Gareys from Austin, TX. The removal 
of the cap would help people like Dole Caregiver Fellow Lara 
Garey, who is present at today's hearing, cared for her 100% 
service-disabled veteran, Tom, until his death due to 
complications from ALS in July 2022. Because of the mandated 
cap, Lara constantly had to fight with the VA to get the 
appropriate support in their home so Tom could continue to 
enjoy movie nights with the family, opening gifts on Christmas 
morning, and even their son's high school graduation, which 
happened in their living room so Tom could comfortably attend-
all of which he would have missed if he were in a facility two 
hours away. It was Tom's greatest wish to remain at home to be 
surrounded by the peace and love of his family during the 
hardest of times. Tom deserved to be home with his family, and 
Lara fought every day to make that possible. As you can see, 
she continues to advocate on behalf of caregivers and Veterans 
in similar situations.
    Eventually, this legislation, which enjoys bipartisan 
support in both Houses of Congress, was included in its 
entirety in the recently introduced H.R. 8371, the Senator 
Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits 
Improvement Act. While the passage of the original Elizabeth 
Dole Home Care Act is the top priority for EDF, the overall 
package includes numerous provisions designed to benefit 
Veterans and caregivers including:

      Enhanced access to care in the community for those for 
whom it has been determined by their clinician to be in their 
medical best interest.
      Enhanced access to residential rehabilitation for 
vulnerable Veterans.
      Authorizes grants to community-based organizations to 
provide mental health care to caregivers.
      A long-awaited pilot program to assess the effectiveness 
of and satisfaction with provided assisted living services.
      Mandates a "Pathway to Advocacy" requiring the Secretary 
of the VA to develop a process to identify, train, and certify 
outside organizations to assist Veterans and caregivers as they 
navigate the resources and programs of the Veterans Health 
Administration.
      Enhanced burial and education benefits for survivors.

    Despite strong support from the Chairman and Ranking 
Members of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee as well as the 
Chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee, all major 
veteran service organizations, and disease-related advocacy 
groups, the legislation has seemingly fallen victim to the 
politics of the day and been plagued by misinformation and 
mischaracterization of its provisions. We urge Members of the 
Senate to reach out to trusted veteran community advocacy 
organizations to get factual information regarding this 
legislation to ensure its swift passage, and remove Veterans, 
caregivers, and survivors in need from the political fray.

Additional Issues:

    In addition to issues addressed in the Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act, EDF would like to highlight other remaining challenges as 
well as proposals meant to address them.
    As noted above, the lack of care coordination especially 
for those with the most complex needs continues to be an 
ongoing challenge for Veterans and caregivers alike. We 
regularly hear from caregivers who spend hours every day trying 
to access the care and benefits their Veterans need, to varying 
degrees of success depending on their knowledge of the 
available programs and services as well as that of the VA staff 
with whom they are working. Therefore, EDF supports the 
following:

      Passage of S. 1792, The Care Act of 2023 introduced by 
Chairman Tester and Senator Braun establishing the "Pathway to 
Advocacy" discussed previously. This legislation would allow 
knowledgeable organizations to assist Veterans and caregivers 
in the navigation of VA services as well as supplement 
overwhelmed social workers.
      Discussion and passage of legislation recently 
introduced by Ranking Member Moran and Senator King, the 
Coordinating Care for Senior Veterans and Wounded Warriors Act. 
The VA is in the process of implementing its new Care 
Coordination and Integrated Case Management program which could 
be helpful for some Veterans. For those with the most complex 
needs, this legislation creates a pilot program to offer a 
higher-level of assistance and is a firm step forward in the 
establishment of more effective care coordination. We look 
forward to continuing to work with the Committee on this 
important issue. Consideration of the amount of demonstrated 
time a caregiver spends coordinating care for the veteran as 
part of the PCAFC assessment process. Veterans requiring 
degrees of supervision and protection are eligible for PCAFC, 
and ensuring access to health care and services should be a 
major consideration under this criterion.
      Passage of S. 622, the Helping Heroes Act, introduced by 
Senators Murray and Boozman requiring a full-time Family 
Support Coordinator at each VA medical Center and requiring the 
VA to collect data on veteran families to better understand 
their needs. In the recent past, the VA prioritized the 
establishment of Family Support Resource Coordinators at each 
VA medical center, but the position but the position was put on 
hold as a result of a funding shortfall. These resource 
coordinators would help connect families and caregivers to the 
right resources both inside and outside of the VA, potentially 
providing a longer-term cost savings by proactively connecting 
families with needed services earlier in their journey.
      The establishment of a case management and social work 
lead at the VISN level who could help to coordinate training, 
standardization of services, and serve as a point of contact 
when challenges arise.

    We support all of these initiatives intended to relieve 
some of the administrative burden for both Veterans and 
caregivers.
    With respect to financial wellness, EDF strongly supports 
two other pieces of legislation intended to alleviate the 
financial strain often caused by caregiving as well as how to 
adjust when the caregiving role has concluded due to 
improvement, death, divorce or other causes:

      S. 3702, the Credit for Caring Act, introduced by 
Senators Bennett and Capito and also endorsed by our partner, 
AARP, would offer a $5,000 tax credit to eligible working 
family caregivers, both veteran and civilian, to offset the 
over $7,200 in out-of-pocket caregiving expenses incurred every 
year. This legislation would clearly remove some of the 
financial strain experienced by these families, especially 
those Veterans who are either not associated with the VA or 
have experienced the difficulty discussed above accessing the 
programs and services available to them and, instead, pay out 
of pocket for their needed goods and services.
      S.3885, The Veteran Caregiver Reeducation, Reemployment, 
and Retirement Act introduced by Ranking Member Moran and 
Senator Sinema. For many PCAFC caregivers, their caregiving 
role will come to an end, hopefully due to improvement in the 
veteran for whom they care, but any number of reasons can be 
cited for this outcome. This legislation would do many things 
to alleviate that anxiety including extend enrollment in the 
Civilian Health and Medical Program of the Department of 
Veterans Affairs (CHAMPVA) for up to 180 days after 
disenrollment from PCAFC, allow the VA to pay caregivers up to 
$1,000 to maintain professional licensure, study the 
feasibility of establishing a retirement plan for family 
caregivers, and study the barriers and incentives to hiring 
former family caregivers to work for the VA.

    While EDF strongly endorses this legislation, we would also 
suggest an amendment to help alleviate a current inequity 
related to retirement planning for parents enrolled in PCAFC 
who care for their service-disabled child, currently 
approximately 2,500 individuals. The VA offers a program called 
Dependency and Indemnity Compensation, a monthly tax-free 
monetary benefit offered to eligible survivors-this program is 
often a financial lifeline for those who are eligible, and 
spouse survivors are rightfully not subject to an income 
threshold. Parent caregivers, however, are subject to an income 
threshold, in some cases as low as approximately $18,000/year. 
For example, EDF is familiar with a parent caregiver in Florida 
whose combat-injured Marine son recently passed away. His 
single mother was his caregiver for 17 years following his 
severe injuries, and now at age 73, she is unable to return to 
work. Because she is a parent, she is subject to the DIC income 
limit, and her $23,000 annual social security payment exceeds 
the threshold. With Social Security now her sole source of 
income, she is in danger of losing the home she shared with her 
son after his injury.
    As the Committee considers S. 3885, EDF requests that the 
Committee consider abolishing or greatly increasing the DIC 
income limits for non-spouse caregivers enrolled in PCAFC, 
allowing them to plan for retirement and leaving them far less 
financially vulnerable when their caregiving role has 
concluded.

Conclusion:

    While caregivers and Veterans still face significant 
challenges today, many can be addressed through continued 
oversight and the legislative initiatives mentioned above. 
Specifically, the Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act as well as the 
language included in the larger legislative package would 
provide, in many cases, immediate relief to those caregivers 
and Veterans most in need. Therefore, the Elizabeth Dole 
Foundation calls on Congress to come together, treat this vital 
legislation with the respect and urgency it deserves, and pass 
it without delay. Veterans and caregivers cannot wait any 
longer for its life-changing, and likely life-saving 
provisions.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairmen, and I look forward to your 
questions.     
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                        Questions for the Record

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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                        Questions for the Record

                             Peter Townsend

                       Ranking Member Mike Braun

    Question:

    In your opening statement you referenced your time staying 
in a Community Living Center (CLC) for respite while your wife 
was recovering from knee surgery. Why did you choose to use a 
CLC instead of an in-home aide?
    Response:

    When I contacted my primary care provider to discuss 
respite care in advance of my wife's knee replacement surgery, 
inpatient respite was what was offered at that time. We did not 
discuss the use of an in-home aide. After further 
consideration, I do believe that inpatient respite care at the 
CLC was the right choice for my situation. Although my stay at 
the CLC was uneventful, the care was available to me at all 
times should I need it. Had I experienced an acute exacerbation 
of my symptoms during that time, scheduling an in-home aide 
would have been difficult and would likely not have provided 
the care and assistance that I required at the time that 
assistance was needed.
    Question:

    How did you feel about the quality of care you received at 
the CLC?
    Response:

    The quality of care that I received during my three weeks 
of respite at the Community Living Center at the Wilkes-Barre 
VA Medical Center was excellent.

                       Senator Kristen Gillibrand

    Question:

    Veterans whose health is affected by service should be 
supported in their time of need. My Social Security Caregiver 
Credit Act provides retirement compensation to individuals who 
leave the workforce or need to reduce their work hours to care 
for their loved ones. How would retirement compensation have 
helped you and your wife?
    Response:

    My wife, Lisa, left the workforce at age 62 to become my 
full-time caregiver. Her premature retirement meant that she 
missed out on Social Security contributions for at least three 
years, and also missed out on the opportunity to contribute to 
her retirement account through her employer. Prior to her 
retirement, Lisa had been employed full-time for her entire 
adult life, with the exception of the year following the birth 
of our son. Although we have not attempted to calculate the 
financial effects of her lost contributions, I would assume 
that it is significant. Recognizing that caregiving is work and 
providing the appropriate retirement compensation to caregivers 
who leave the workforce to care for their loved ones would be a 
valuable benefit and the right thing to do! I thank you for 
your question and for your commitment to this important issue.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                        Questions for the Record

                             Hannah Niekens

                         Senator Kyrsten Sinema

    Question:

    How do you believe the VA could better ensure it is 
accounting for a patient's full medical history to prevent 
those in need of community care from being at a disadvantage 
when applying for the PCAFC program?
    Response:

    To improve the Veteran's Administration's ability to 
account for a patient's full medical history, especially for 
those utilizing community care or outside providers, the 
following steps could be taken:
    Integrated Health Information Systems: Develop and 
implement a more robust and integrated health information 
system that allows seamless sharing of medical records between 
the VHA and community care providers. This system should be 
interoperable with various electronic health record (EHR) 
systems used by outside providers. The records should also be 
easily accessible to VHA providers.
    Integration of VBA and VHA Records: There are significant 
discrepancies between Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA) 
and Veterans Health Administration (VHA) records. Ensuring 
these records are integrated and accessible across both systems 
is crucial. This integration would help in providing a complete 
medical history and prevent misunderstandings and omissions of 
critical health information.
    Reporting and Documentation: Establish reporting 
requirements for community care providers to ensure they 
consistently and comprehensively document and share medical 
records with the VHA. This could include standardized forms and 
protocols to ensure consistency and completeness.
    Enhanced Coordination and Communication: Foster better 
coordination and communication channels between the VHA and 
community care providers. Joint case reviews and designated 
liaisons could help ensure that the VHA receives timely and 
complete medical information.
    Patient Education and Empowerment: Educate Veterans about 
the importance of sharing their full medical history with the 
VHA. Provide them with tools and resources to track and manage 
their community care medical records within existing personal 
health record apps or patient portals. Additionally, provide 
the opportunity to self-upload medical records from providers 
who are not part of the community care network.
    Data Analytics and Monitoring: Utilize data analytics to 
monitor and identify gaps in community care medical records. 
Implement systems that flag missing or incomplete information 
based on known community care appointment authorizations and 
prompt follow-up actions to ensure the patient's medical 
history is fully accounted for.
    Policy and Legislative Support: Advocate for policies and 
legislation that support the integration of health information 
systems and mandate the sharing of medical records between the 
VHA and community care providers. This could also include 
funding for technology upgrades and training programs.
    Comprehensive Care Coordination Programs: Utilize care 
coordination programs that assign care coordinators or case 
managers to Veterans, especially those with complex medical 
histories, to help bridge the gap between the VHA and community 
care providers, ensuring all relevant medical information is 
captured and communicated effectively. Examples of programs 
with case management include VA Patient Aligned Care Teams 
(PACTs), VA Polytrauma System of Care, Geriatrics and Extended 
Care (GEC) Services, Mental Health Intensive Case Management 
(MHICM), Caregiver Support Program, Military Sexual Trauma 
(MST) Coordinators, Homeless Veterans Programs, VA Transition 
Care Management (TCM), VA Post-Deployment Integrated Care 
Initiative (PDICI).
    Stable Needs: A review of medical records should include 
all relevant records from any point in time where significant 
need was established. Veterans who have stable needs were 
disadvantaged by not having a preponderance of medical records.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                        Questions for the Record

                             Andrea Sawyer

                         Senator Kyrsten Sinema

    Question:

    Your testimony in a previous hearing brought to my 
attention the healthcare, financial, and employment 
difficulties veteran family caregivers are facing. Your 
testimony, the input provided by your organization, the Quality 
of Life Foundation (QoLF), and input from the Military Officers 
Association of America have been critical to the formulation of 
my bill, the Veteran Caregiver Re-Education, Re-employment, and 
Retirement Act. One of the provisions of my bill mandates a 
study of allowing caregivers to make contributions to Social 
Security and other types of existing retirement accounts. What 
are the QoLF's thoughts on retirement account options that 
should be available to caregivers enrolled with the VA's 
Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers 
(PCAFC)?
    Response:

    Quality of Life Foundation has not taken a stand on the 
type of retirement accounts which caregivers should be allowed 
to contribute to. However, caregivers should have some form of 
account created like that of Social Security or Railroad 
Benefits so that there is a retirement safety net. Another 
option would be to create a Thrift Savings Plan for caregivers 
or to allow them to set up retirement savings. These accounts 
could be taxed at the time of withdrawal like that of current 
IRA's, so as not to create a taxation problem for stipend vs. 
wages with the actual PCAFC stipend.
    Question:

    Another provision of my bill requires the VA to study the 
potential challenges and opportunities of hiring additional 
former PCAFC caregivers to help address staffing shortages. 
What are the most significant barriers to VA employment that 
QoLF has identified for PCAFC caregivers attempting to reenter 
the workforce?
    Response:

    Caregivers moving out of full-time caregiving and back into 
the workforce will have the same challenges as new parents 
returning to the workforce will have. Many studies cite that 
new parents have problems with child care, balancing career and 
childcare demands, and continued career advancement. The same 
are true for caregivers, as caregiving is essentially the same 
as child-rearing in its impact on careers.
    Just because a caregiver is dismissed from PCAFC does not 
mean that the care recipient does not need care, just that they 
need care to a lesser extent than before. Caregivers have to 
find alternative care resources for their loved ones through 
home health care or other alternative programs. If those care 
supports fail to show or run late, then the former PCAFC 
caregiver has to step into that role. This creates absenteeism 
in the workplace for caregivers and can threaten long-term 
employability for caregivers. Jobs should allow work-place 
flexibility options so that caregivers can work from home in 
order to fulfill caregiving duties simultaneously.
    While many workplaces tout flexible work options, 
caregivers will need workplaces to be extremely flexible. 
Workplaces that expect caregivers to do nine to five jobs while 
also having to ferry loved ones to doctors offices and other 
appointments that are during the traditional work day, are not 
caregiver friendly. Caregivers will need work places that are 
focused on task achievement, not on adhering to a traditional 
schedule. Caregivers have learned to achieve many goals during 
caregiving, but they do their work during non-traditional 
hours.
    Caregivers will be left behind in career advancement as 
long as they are caregiving. Because caregivers will not have 
kept up with the latest advancements, missed out on continuing 
education, had gaps in licensure, etc., caregivers will fall 
behind in their fields. When their caregiving duties end, 
caregivers will be able to make this up, but in the short term, 
there will be some damage to the caregiver's career 
advancement. Workplaces that are able to offer return ships 
that can capitalize on the flexibility that caregivers have 
mastered will be the workplaces that are able to value and 
integrate caregivers successfully into their places of work.
    Question:

    Are there staffing gaps at the VA that former PCAFC 
caregivers could be helpful in closing?
    Response:

    VA can integrate caregivers into a myriad of positions that 
it has. Caregivers come from a variety of fields prior to 
caregiving, from education, healthcare, finance, structural 
engineering, etc. VA could potentially give a hiring preference 
to former caregivers (many of them may already have spousal 
preference for 100% p and t Veterans) to integrate them into VA 
careers. VA could use unskilled caregivers as personal care 
attendants or help them achieve their CNA 1 and CNA 2's to meet 
staffing HHA needs for Veterans within the VA. Since VA and its 
contracted agencies are facing a severe shortage of HHA 
workers, it would only make sense for VA to work out a program 
to help caregivers achieve CNA licensure and then hire on 
former caregivers to fill the open roles that VA has in its 
labor force.
    Question:

    In your testimony, you also highlighted the requirement 
that PCAFC caregivers assist their veteran with an activity of 
daily living each and every time in order to retain eligibility 
for the Program, which could effectively penalize Veterans for 
rehabilitating themselves to a point where they do not require 
assistance every single time. Do you share the concern that 
Veterans engaging in rehabilitation regimens and treatments 
could lose their PCAFC eligibility?
    Response:

    Quality of Life Foundation has always been concerned with 
the language requiring assistance "each and every time" an ADL 
is performed. We have routinely pointed out the problem with 
this language in our testimonies and conversations on the Hill 
and with VA staff. Veterans should be encouraged to participate 
in rehabilitation and treatment regimens to achieve the highest 
level of independence possible without it threatening a 
veteran's level of assistance. No caregiver wants to limit the 
independence of their veteran through rehabilitation, but the 
VA threatens a caregiver/veteran dyad's security if a veteran 
shows even the slightest level of independence, even if such 
independence is not sustainable.
    A veteran who has lost both legs and needs prosthetics to 
walk may need the assistance of a caregiver while learning to 
walk again, while suffering from stump sores, and after 
removing prosthetics in order to shower, toilet, or sleep. Just 
because the veteran is independent on the prosthetics to walk 
does not mean they may not otherwise need assistance. The 
veteran's legs did not magically grow back. Penalizing a 
veteran for being able to do one thing, one time without 
assistance, is simply ludicrous.
    The best examples of this come with Veterans with 
conditions like MS that are relapsing and remitting. Veterans 
can be independent, but at any point in time, their disease may 
progress and they will need immediate care. Using an "each and 
every time" ADL standard simply does not make sense. Caregivers 
and Veterans should be encouraged to achieve long-term 
rehabilitation without the constant short-term threat of having 
PCAFC withdrawn until the independence achieved has proven to 
be sustainable.
    Question:

    I understand that Veterans and their loved ones struggle at 
times to secure PCAFC eligibility, so I appreciate the work 
QoLF does to help them enroll with the Program. Do you work 
with Veteran Service Organizations and other groups to ensure 
they are equipped to advocate on behalf of caregivers and their 
Veterans as they navigate the PCAFC application process and, 
for those denied initially, the clinical appeals process?
    Response:

    Quality of Life Foundation works with many other 
organizations in the veteran space to educate those 
organizations on the issues facing caregivers and Veterans 
throughout the PCAFC application and appeals process. We do 
education sessions with multiple VSO's to teach them about how 
VHA reviews the medical records to determine whether a 
caregiver is needed. We discuss with them how to appeal a 
caregiver determination since the appeal is a VHA appeal, which 
is not the realm in which most VSO's operate. We run education 
sessions on the process for many veteran supporting 
organizations such as Semper Fi Fund/America's Fund Visiting 
Nurses, Neuro Community Care (administrator of Wounded Warrior 
Project's Independence Program) case managers, Homes For Our 
Troops case managers, the Elizabeth Dole Foundation Fellows, 
and other organizations that request those briefings. We do 
briefings on the actual application process and separate 
briefings on the types of appeals available for each decision 
that is made.
    Collaboratively, we also hold roundtables with MOAA for the 
VSO and stakeholder community on the Caregiver and Veteran 
experience. In 2023, our focus was on caregiver respite. In 
2024, our first roundtable was on the state of the pending 
caregiver regulation.
    QoLF has created a PCAFC assessment work group of VSO 
stakeholders to discuss what needs to be captured in a new 
assessment for the PCAFC program to make sure that it gauges a 
veteran's need for assistance and that the assessment is a 
validated instrument.
    What we have found is that QoLF has the expertise to be the 
thought leader in the very niche space of caregiver. By staying 
in our lane, we are able to support larger VSO's from having to 
become masters of all, and to have them support us in our 
mastery. With our granting organizations, we cross refer. When 
families need PCAFC help, our grantors send the families to us, 
and when Veterans needs other assistance beyond PCAFC, we refer 
to our grantors for assistance.

                          Senator Bill Cassidy

    Question:

    Thank you for providing more information during our 
dialogue at the recent hearing, "Heroes at Home: Improving 
Services for Veterans and their Caregivers." I want to formally 
recognize your efforts as the primary caregiver for your 
husband after he was wounded serving our nation.
    Regarding our discussion, I wanted to follow up with you on 
the questions below about the Program of Comprehensive 
Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC):
    How can we change the VA's interpretation of assistance 
required for "activities of daily living" to include conditions 
that involve periodic periods of higher disability hardship? 
And how would "regular assistance" provide clarity for these 
types of conditions - were they initially included prior to 
Department of Veterans' Affairs reinterpretation?
    Response:

    Legislate the language surrounding Activities of Daily 
Living and the level of assistance needed by the veteran to 
ensure the intent of Congress to allow "regular assistance with 
an ADL" to be the standard for PCAFC eligibility rather than 
the current assistance standard of "each and every time a 
veteran performs an ADL." The requirement that a caregiver must 
assist a veteran with an Activity of Daily Living (ADL) "each 
and every time" it is completed for eligibility in PCAFC was 
reviewed by the courts. The Veteran Warriors, Inc. v. McDonough 
ruled that this strict interpretation of assistance with ADL's 
under VA's regulation was allowed under the legislation 
creating PCAFC. However, VA Central Office CSP has acknowledged 
that this strict interpretation is keeping Veterans, especially 
older Veterans, out of the program and penalizing Veterans for 
being able to do anything for themselves which impedes progress 
in rehabilitation and potentially causes patient harm. This 
language change also impacted those Veterans with diseases with 
relapsing, remitting patterns. Prior to the 2020 regulation 
governing PCAFC, the ADL standard for PCAFC was "regular 
assistance" which was in line with the standard for 
Supervision, Protection, and Instruction and allowed for 
relapsing, remitting conditions.
    While QoLF would not normally ask Congress to legislate 
this language to such specificity, we do so in this instance. 
The regulation governing PCAFC has changed four times since the 
creation of this program in 2011, and we are currently waiting 
for a new proposed regulation to be published any day now. In 
order to keep changes from being made each time there is new 
leadership at the helm of VA, we ask that Congress write the 
legislation into statute, preventing the legislative language 
that exists now from being continually re-interpreted by VA and 
necessitating the constant pauses in PCAFC that have occurred 
since the programs inception.
    Question:

    How can we clarify that supervision for "activities of 
daily living" be included as part of the "each and every time" 
standard so that we can provide needed relief to impacted 
Veterans and their families through PCFAC?
    Response:

    When guidance was issued to the field after Veteran-
Warriors v. McDonough, the field was supposed to address 
activities of daily living that did not meet the "each and 
every time" standard under supervision, protection, and 
instruction. Supervision, protection, and instruction, allows 
CSP to look at each ADL through the lens of needing assistance 
for safety while performing the ADL on a "regular" basis. SPI 
on a "regular basis" for ADL's would meet the SPI standard for 
qualifying for SPI. That ADL SPI falls under "Does the veteran 
have the physical ability to cope or take action in a changing 
environment/"; "What type of support does the veteran need to 
remain safe in the home?'; "What type of support does the 
veteran need to remain safe away from the home?"; "Is the 
veteran able to identify his needs?"; and lastly "Is the 
veteran able to arrange for his health and safety?"
    Since all of necessary guidance for ADL's under SPI exists 
already in field guidance, Congress could ask VA to take a 
retroactive look at ADL denials and see if any denials could be 
accepted under the SPI qualifications. This would impact most 
denials before June 2022, but after that, corrected guidance 
had been issued to and implemented in the field, in most cases.
    As always, there are certain VISNs that do not comply with 
field guidance, and VACO CSP has little authority to fix this. 
VACO CSP has standardized authority, not centralized authority. 
This means if a VISN chooses not to abide by field guidance, 
there is little repercussions for the local Caregiver 
Eligibility Assessment Team, and only the Veteran/Caregiver 
Dyad suffer. If Congress wanted to fix this issue, Congress 
could give centralized authority to the Caregiver Support 
Program so that the VACO CSP staff could actually enforce the 
directive they are charged with writing and implementing but 
have only force of will and personality to implement under the 
current standardized authority granted to CSP.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                        Questions for the Record

                              Fred Sganga

                       Ranking Member Mike Braun

    Question:

    In your opening statement, you mentioned that you run one 
of only three Adult Day Health Care (ADHC) facilities for 
Veterans. How long does a Veteran visit you during a day, and 
what differentiates your ADHC from other independent adult day 
programs? How do Veterans find out about this program? Who is 
eligible for this service? Does VA currently contract with your 
ADHC to provide respite care services for Veterans in VA's 
CSPs, specifically, PCAFC and PGCSS? Do you believe your ADHC 
would be able to provide this respite care?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

    Question:

    Indiana only has one State Veterans Home. When I met with 
the Director of the Indiana Department of Veterans Affairs, he 
suggested it would be more cost effective and beneficial if the 
state could use existing long-term care facilities-like renting 
a wing of a nursing home in Evansville or Fort Wayne-as opposed 
to building an entirely new facility. However, VA doesn't 
currently allow these kind of satellite operations. Did VA 
previously allow satellite sites? Do you believe it would be 
more fiscally responsible if State Veterans Homes had the 
flexibility to utilize space in this way? During the hearing 
you were questioned on the impact of the nursing home minimum 
staffing rule by Senator King. Could you please expand on the 
following: How does this rule impact your facilities and other 
SVH directors' facilities? What are some creative staffing 
alternatives that CMS could consider while ensuring quality 
patient care standards are upheld?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

                       Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

    Question:

    Living at home or in the community and receiving care 
during times of need is a basic right, but Veterans deal with 
long waiting lists and limited options for these services. The 
HCBS Access Act and HCBS Relief Act reinforces services 
provided in the home and community and give our Veterans with a 
disability dignified living choices. How would expanding 
support for home- and community-based services complement the 
current services provided by the VA?
    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                        Questions for the Record

                             Meredith Beck

                       Ranking Member Mike Braun

    Question:

    In your testimony you mentioned Veterans simply do not know 
about critical benefits like the Caregiver Support Program. I 
am concerned that without sufficient outreach, education, and 
support, too many Veterans will never be able to use these 
services. How can the Veterans Administration make sure that 
every veteran eligible for these important benefits knows about 
and can use them?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

    Question:

    It is important for the VA to ensure that Veterans are 
aware of the opportunities available to them. The VA posts 
information on many of its programs online. However, Aging 
Committee oversight found that the VA has not consistently made 
its websites and other technology accessible for people with 
disabilities, as required by law. Including people with 
disabilities in VA oversight could help. Senator Scott and I 
introduced a bill, S. 2516, the Veterans Accessibility Act, to 
give Veterans with disabilities a role in overseeing the VA's 
compliance with all federal disability laws, which the 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation has endorsed. How does noncompliance 
with federal disability laws limit access to VA programs? How 
would the Veterans Accessibility Act help ensure that the VA's 
programs are accessible for all Veterans and their caregivers?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

                       Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

    Question:

    Five and a half million caregivers providing vital care for 
our nation's Veterans experience high levels of burden, 
distress, financial strain, and other negative consequences 
like depression. I am pushing to pass the Elizabeth Dole Home 
Care Act, which would provide these workers the support they 
need. Thank you for your testimony. This bill requires VA to 
conduct a review of the use, availability, and effectiveness of 
respite services. In what ways would an expansion of respite 
care better support the care and quality of life of caregivers?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."

                         Senator Kyrsten Sinema

    Question:

    I appreciate the Elizabeth Dole Foundation's endorsement of 
my Veteran Caregiver Re-education, Re-employment, and 
Retirement bill and your suggested amendment to eliminate 
annual income caps for dependency and indemnity compensation 
(DIC) payments to non-spouse PCAFC caregivers. Of the 2500 
PCAFC parent caregivers cited in your written testimony, about 
how many would be eligible for DIC payments at their current 
annual income levels? Do payments from the PCAFC monthly 
stipend from within twelve months of a veteran passing count 
towards the DIC eligibility income caps, even though the 
stipend payments are considered unearned income?

    Response:

    "At this time, responses are not available for printing. 
Please contact the U.S. Special Committee on Aging for further 
updates and to obtain a hard copy, if available."
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                       Statements for the Record

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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

   The Alzheimer's Association and Alzheimer's Impact Movement (AIM) 
                               Testimony

    The Alzheimer's Association and Alzheimer's Impact Movement 
(AIM) appreciate the opportunity to submit this statement for 
the record for the Senate Special Committee on Aging and Senate 
Committee on Veterans' Affairs joint hearing on "Heroes at 
Home: Improving Services for Veterans and their Caregivers." 
The Association and AIM thank the Committees for their 
continued leadership on issues important to the millions of 
Veterans living with Alzheimer's and other dementia and their 
caregivers. This statement highlights the importance of 
services to meet the needs of our nation's Veterans living with 
Alzheimer's and other dementia, as well as their caregivers.
    Founded in 1980, the Alzheimer's Association is the world's 
leading voluntary health organization in Alzheimer's care, 
support, and research. Our mission is to eliminate Alzheimer's 
and other dementia through the advancement of research; to 
provide and enhance care and support for all affected, and to 
reduce the risk of dementia through the promotion of brain 
health. AIM is the Association's advocacy affiliate, working in 
a strategic partnership to make Alzheimer's a national 
priority. Together, the Alzheimer's Association and AIM 
advocate for policies to fight Alzheimer's disease, including 
increased investment in research, improved care and support, 
and the development of approaches to reduce the risk of 
developing dementia.
    Nearly half a million American Veterans are living with 
Alzheimer's - and as the population ages, that number is 
expected to grow. In 2022, an estimated 451,000 Veterans were 
living with Alzheimer's. The U.S. Department of Veterans 
Affairs (VA) has projected the number of Veterans living with 
Alzheimer's dementia will increase by 8.4 percent through 2033 
to more than 488,000. For Veterans, the prevalence may grow 
even faster in future years because they have a higher risk of 
developing dementia, as they are uniquely exposed to certain 
risk factors. For example, evidence indicates that even mild 
traumatic brain injury (TBI) increases the risk of developing 
certain forms of dementia. A recent meta-analysis estimated the 
increase in dementia risk from any form of TBI was nearly 70 
percent. The significant increase in the number of Veterans 
with Alzheimer's and other dementias will place a heavy burden 
on the VA health care system, and in particular, nursing home 
care.
    The Alzheimer's Association is deeply grateful for the VA's 
comprehensive approach to dementia and the people it affects: 
its extensive research, its care and support services within 
the Geriatrics and Extended Care program, and its participation 
on the Advisory Council on Alzheimer's Research, Care, and 
Services. We are particularly appreciative of our joint 
pursuits, including the Alzheimer's Disease Neuroimaging 
Initiative (ADNI) and the Partners in Dementia Care program, 
and we are glad to serve as a resource to the VA as it 
continues to balance the protection of its aging Veterans while 
encouraging the availability of high quality care.
Home-and Community-Based Services: The Impact on Family 
Caregivers and Needs of the Alzheimer's and Dementia Community
    We are grateful for the VA's commitment to supporting 
Veterans living with Alzheimer's and other dementia by offering 
an array of long-term care and support services, such as 
assisted living, residential, as well as adult day and home 
health care.
    Home-and community-based services (HCBS) allow people with 
dementia to remain in their homes while providing family 
caregivers with much-needed support. These services empower 
caregivers to provide quality care for their loved ones while 
allowing them to manage and improve their health. While 83 
percent of care provided to older adults in the United States 
comes from family members, friends, or other unpaid caregivers, 
nearly half of these caregivers do so for individuals with 
Alzheimer's or other dementia. Of the total lifetime cost of 
caring for someone with dementia, 70 percent is borne by 
families - either through out-of-pocket health and long-term 
care expenses or from the value of unpaid care. In 2023, 
caregivers of people with Alzheimer's or other dementias 
provided an estimated 18.4 billion hours of informal - that is, 
unpaid - assistance, a contribution valued at $346.6 billion.
    Several states are implementing innovative solutions to 
address Alzheimer's by developing critical, cost-effective, 
dementia-specific HCBS programs. These programs are allowing 
people with dementia and their caregivers to access services 
and support that are uniquely tailored to meet their needs, 
allowing them to remain in their homes and communities longer 
and enjoy a greater quality of life. Building off of innovative 
solutions by several states, the VA through the Veterans Health 
Administration (VHA) should consider adopting a core set of 
home-and community-based services that are specifically 
designed for people with dementia. A core set of HCBS, in 
addition to other services, will allow people with Alzheimer's 
to continue to remain in their communities and be independent 
for as long as possible.
Supporting Veterans' Access to High Quality Long-Term Care 
Services
    While people living with Alzheimer's and other dementia and 
their caregivers often prefer to keep the individual living in 
the home for as long as is manageable, they make up a 
significant portion of all long-term care residents. More than 
60 percent of the VA's costs of caring for those with 
Alzheimer's are for nursing home care. Given our constituents' 
intensive use of these services, the quality of this care is of 
the utmost importance.
    While much of the training for long-term care staff is 
regulated at the state level, we encourage the Committees to 
consider proposals that support state VHA Medical Centers in 
implementing and improving dementia training for direct care 
workers, as well as their oversight of these activities. 
Training policies should be competency-based, should target 
providers in a broad range of settings and not limited to 
dementia-specific programs or settings, and should enable staff 
to (1) provide person-centered dementia care based on a 
thorough knowledge of the care recipient and their needs; (2) 
advance optimal functioning and high quality of life; and (3) 
incorporate problem-solving approaches into care practices.
    We also urge the Committees to support VHA Medical Centers 
in the following efforts: (1) any training curriculum should be 
delivered by knowledgeable staff that has hands-on experience 
and demonstrated competency in providing dementia care; (2) 
continuing education should be offered and encouraged; and (3) 
training should be portable, meaning that these workers should 
have the opportunity to transfer their skills or education from 
one setting to another.
Conclusion
    The Alzheimer's Association and AIM appreciate the 
Committees' steadfast support for Veterans and their caregivers 
and the continued commitment to advancing issues important to 
the millions of military families affected by Alzheimer's and 
other dementia. We look forward to working with the Committees 
and other members of Congress in a bipartisan way to advance 
policies to support the growing population of Veterans living 
with dementia and their caregivers.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

                          Jack Evans Testimony

    Good afternoon. I am providing my written statement to you 
because I cannot attend this important hearing.
    My name is Jack Evans, III. I am a retired major in the US 
Army Reserve, having served in the Reserve Program from May 
1983 to May 2008. I live in Enola, Pennsylvania, and have been 
married to DiAnn Evans for approximately 35 years.
    In 1991, I was diagnosed with diabetes and served the 
majority of my military career with this condition. In 2011, I 
was diagnosed with kidney failure and started hemodialysis 
shortly after this. In 2014, I began doing hemodialysis at home 
after my wife, who was a schoolteacher, received training on 
how to administer my treatments.
    In 2021, my wife and I first applied for the VA Caregiver 
Support Program and were subsequently denied. We appealed the 
decision, and the VA has yet to respond as of today, June 11, 
2024. Following the VA's suggestion, we reapplied for the 
program in the spring of 2023, receiving approval. My wife's 
and my circumstances did not change between our 2021 and 2023 
applications, but the VA's assessment method did. The VA 
reviewed my 2021 application through video and voice calls, 
while they reviewed my 2023 application through an at-home 
visit, allowing them to comprehensively understand my needs.
    Due to these discrepancies in assessment, the program 
manager at the VA in Lebanon, PA, suggested that we file a 
separate clinical appeal regarding the payments we should have 
received if the VA had approved us initially. Last week, the VA 
denied this appeal, more than two years after our original 
application to the VA Caregiver Support Program. In their 
denial letter, the VA included incomplete and inaccurate 
documentation that they reviewed to make this decision.
    For instance, I received surgery in the fall of 2020 and 
underwent extensive rehabilitation for two weeks. However, 
according to the VA's documentation, I never had surgery then 
and only spent one day in rehabilitation. Furthermore, the VA 
did not consider my medical records before the fall of 2020, 
records from non-VA facilities, or any of my dialysis records, 
even though I have received dialysis treatments multiple times 
a week for a decade. We are patient, but my wife and I are 
entitled to the arrears from this program. That is why we will 
appeal this denial until we can access the benefits we deserve.
    In saying this, I want to emphasize the following:
      The caregiving program's stipend is helpful to my wife, 
who facilitates my care. We do not collect a substantial sum 
for the time and effort she puts in daily, but spousal 
recognition is essential. My wife supported me throughout my 25 
years in uniform, and we appreciate the VA's assistance.
      Through this program, my wife and I have access to a 
group of professionals who can discuss complex medical and 
emotional concerns with us, which is significant. A few times, 
we used this support system to make difficult decisions 
regarding my treatments.
      My wife has participated in videoconferences, and she 
tells me that these help her learn coping skills and hear from 
others with similar issues.
      However, finding out about this program and whether we 
were eligible was difficult. Like the VA Dialysis Program I 
participate in, I learned about the caregiving program via 
"word of mouth." It would have been beneficial if the VA had 
provided information about this program when my VA Disability 
Rating went up to 100%. Depending on how the VA would have 
evaluated my situation, I could have been eligible as a full-
time dialysis patient as early as 2014.
    In closing, I thank Senators Casey and Tester for their 
interest and attention to this critical and consequential 
support program.
    Respectfully,

    Jack O. Evans, III

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

                        Jacob Johnson Testimony

    My name is Jacob Johnson, and I live in Saylorsburg, 
Pennsylvania. I'm a native of Russiaville, Indiana, over 650 
miles away. I have no family in Pennsylvania other than my 10-
year-old son.
    I joined the Marine Corps in 2002 and served until I was 
medically separated in 2014. After this, I followed my then-
wife and our 4-month-old son to her hometown in Oregon. We 
moved to Pennsylvania in 2016 to be close to her mother, who 
lives in Scranton, Pennsylvania. I've had various health issues 
related to my service, much of which I believe is burn pit 
related, and I have primarily used the VA for my healthcare. My 
wife and I separated in 2018, and I've been divorced since 
then. I have several disabilities, with extensive PTSD and 
mental illness, as well as a brain injury, which I will discuss 
later.
    In March of 2022, the VA hospital in Wilkes Barre, 
Pennsylvania, instructed me to go to the closest emergency room 
because I was pretty sick. I was diagnosed with necrotizing 
pancreatitis, and my body had begun to shut down. I was in 
kidney failure, my lungs were full of fluid, and I was septic. 
My doctors didn't think they were going to be able to save my 
life, and I spent the next seven months or so in and out of the 
hospital. I had drains in my abdomen, requiring flushing and 
tracking the amount of infected fluid coming out of my body 
twice a day. I was on a plethora of medications for infections, 
several other enzymes to keep me alive, and pain medicines that 
had to be regulated.
    The VA hospital trained my then-girlfriend, Celeste, how to 
take care of me. She regulated my meds and kept a logbook of my 
drained fluid measurements, which she gave to the home care 
nurse, who came once a week to check on us. Celeste bathed me 
because I couldn't get my drains wet. Additionally, I could 
barely move around or reach anything below my waist. She wiped 
my backside because I couldn't even do that due to the drains 
from my abdomen and the 100 pounds of fluid I had gained from 
my kidneys not working correctly. Celeste forced me to eat 
because it was so difficult and painful for me to ingest food. 
She would take care of my son, who was eight at the time, which 
allowed me to spend time with him.
    Celeste also took me to multiple weekly appointments 
because I could barely walk or drive. She would pick up my 
daily needs and medications because it was too painful for me 
to ride in a car. I was unable to communicate my health 
concerns to doctors and healthcare professionals due to the 
medicines I was on and the effects that sepsis and fevers had 
on my brain so Celeste would do this for me. I was a full-time 
project, and she took time off from her realtor profession to 
take care of me.
    As I said, regarding the months and months Celeste spent 
caring for me, I was in no mental capacity to make sound 
medical decisions. Furthermore, I was in no mental capacity to 
advocate for our needs or perform research on which programs 
within the VA we might qualify for. Around October of 2022, I 
started researching potential health insurance programs for my 
kids as I realized I probably wouldn't be on my feet and 
working for quite some time. During my research, I stumbled 
upon the caregiver support program. My family applied for the 
program but was denied because they didn't recognize the level 
of care I needed. I still disagree with their assumption as I 
look back at where I was mentally and physically.
    The VA also denied us any back pay. They told us they would 
not retroactively approve any service requests, which is 
astonishing. How do you deny a person something they qualified 
for when they weren't in any capacity to apply for it? 
Celeste's bills and house payments-none of that went away. 
Those were all still waiting for her even though she was taking 
care of me.
    I tried to challenge the decision, but the caregiver 
support program manager at the Wilkes-Barre VA Clinic told me 
she would have to deny us again because none of my information 
had changed. She stated that she wanted to assist, but her 
hands were tied due to the legislative nature of the denial. 
The VA denied my family something we qualified for because I 
wasn't in the mental capacity to research or speak on my behalf 
due to a severe illness.
    I thought we were doing the right thing in getting me out 
of the hospital to heal at home, saving taxpayers thousands of 
dollars a day for my care. Veterans are promised help and 
assistance from the VA, but they never back up their promises. 
I'm not the only person in my area who has dealt with this very 
same issue, and it's extremely sad.
    Another thing I should note is that the caregiver support 
manager told me that each VA clinic has a team of social 
workers who are supposed to push this information out, but this 
has yet to happen. My family didn't hear from any social 
workers until I contacted the caregiver support program manager 
in Wilkes-Barre. It was too little too late, though, and she 
couldn't do anything for us either. This is a program where 
Veterans' caregivers are constantly denied compensation, and 
there is nowhere or no one to advocate to for change. It's a 
dead-end road.
    I was told to call my Senators and Congressmen, so I did 
that. I have been fighting this issue for over a year, and it 
is just now receiving attention from elected officials. I 
understand that you all are extremely busy people, and I can 
respect and appreciate that. What I don't understand is the 
massive overreach for these small programs. People die and lose 
their homes, cars, and electricity, waiting to be heard on 
these issues even though the government and VA hires program 
managers to address these concerns.
    Furthermore, I would say these program managers are more 
than capable of making case-by-case decisions for Veterans and 
their families who are in need. Taxpayers are left to assume 
that their money funds excellent programs through the VA and 
that the VA listens to and promptly assists each veteran and 
their family. I can tell you this is not the case from my 
experience as a veteran trying to utilize the resources I need. 
The VA already has the necessary tools and personnel, but they 
can't make common-sense, case-by-case decisions for anyone to 
access their programs.
    I also think "retroactive" processes need to be addressed 
if we aren't going to utilize our social workers in a way that 
could benefit every veteran. I don't understand how it is so 
difficult to notice if a veteran has an illness that could 
potentially kill them or leave them and their family in a bad 
spot for months on end. It makes us, as Veterans, wonder why 
tax dollars go to pay these social workers if no one even knows 
they exist, and they don't reach out to families who are in 
obvious need of extra services.
    Fast forward a year or so - in October of 2023, I had to 
call the VA crisis line. I had a mental breakdown and began 
contemplating suicide. I was tired of feeling like I was 
holding my family back from their lives with everything I had 
going on. The fact that Celeste was behind on her mortgage and 
other bills had taken its toll on my mental health. I felt as 
though the very government that I went to battle for, receiving 
injuries in the process, had turned its back on me, my family, 
and my loved ones. I also felt that this was my fault, and I 
wanted to take myself out of the picture so everyone around me 
could move forward with their own lives. I called the crisis 
line, but I waited six weeks to receive proper mental health 
care.
    We hear politicians say, "Twenty-two a day is way too 
high." They say, "How do we get that down?" However, to 
Veterans, it's more than a campaign slogan. I know more 
Veterans who have taken their own lives than I can count on one 
hand, but we can change this. Often, it comes down to us 
feeling as if we are holding back our loved ones from reaching 
their full potential for one reason or another, which is 
precisely how I felt.
    It is hard watching another human being stress over 
finances when you know in your heart and mind that you are the 
cause of that stress. Celeste is still digging herself out of 
the hole she's in, and no one has reached out to her, saying, 
"Hey, we owe you this for taking care of one of ours." She's 
never even received a thank you for how she has helped me and 
my kids. If it weren't for her, I wouldn't be here today, and 
my kids would be suffering as a result. As I close with this 
portion of my letter, I ask again that she receive the 
compensation she earned while taking care of me, which would 
allow her to catch up on mortgage payments and other bills from 
when she could not work.
    You all have to understand that many Veterans are in my 
shoes as they don't move back to their hometowns once they exit 
the military and instead follow their spouses and kids to a new 
home. You also have to understand that the divorce rate for 
veteran families is exceptionally high. With that being said, 
many Veterans are divorced, living hundreds of miles away from 
their families and friends so they can be close to and have a 
hand in raising their kids to be successful in life. We date 
new people who aren't familiar with how the VA works, as we're 
not that familiar with it until we need to use it. There is an 
encyclopedia of programs the VA offers, and no one can ever 
memorize all of them. We sometimes can't advocate for 
ourselves, and no one steps in to do that for us. There has to 
be some way to advocate for the other side of things once we 
have our capacities back, and unfortunately, there isn't.
    As far as recommendations for improvements:
      Implement retroactive approvals for Veterans and their 
families in situations where the veteran cannot research 
programs during a time of need due to health reasons.
      Look at why families are being denied the caregiver 
support program at an alarming rate.
      If we want to change the suicide rate in the veteran 
community, listen to what the Veterans are saying. It seems 
from our perspective that many things are assumed and not 
discussed.
      Ensure VA social workers reach out to Veterans and their 
families, especially those outside hospitals, to address their 
needs through community care. The Veterans in outside care 
facilities are often forgotten about by their VA team.
    I hope this information makes sense and you consider it 
when drafting legislation significantly affecting veteran 
service members and their loved ones. These programs are 
designed to do great things for the veteran community, but we 
need to ensure they're accessible and that the application 
processes are sensible for everyone. I appreciate you all 
reaching out to me and hearing my story. Thank you for all that 
you do for us and our loved ones.
    Respectfully,

    Jacob Johnson

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

                        Jerry Hromisin Testimony

    My name is Jerry Hromisin. My wife, Mary Ellen, son, Thomas 
"TJ," and I live in Pittston, Pennsylvania. Mary Ellen and I 
are sharing TJ's story as his sole caregivers.
    In 2005, TJ graduated from the University of Scranton at 
the top of his ROTC class and then joined the U.S. Army. In May 
of 2007, while leading a platoon of soldiers, he was shot by a 
sniper. TJ lost both of his eyes and one-third of his brain, 
but he survived against all odds.
    When TJ returned home, he was barely functioning. He could 
not sit up or walk, and he depended on a feeding tube for 
nutrition. TJ also underwent extensive rehabilitation while 
recovering from numerous surgeries. At one point, doctors 
replaced his skull with polymer, but the procedure failed, 
leading to infection, and requiring another complex operation 
with years of recuperation.
    Mary Ellen and I revolve around TJ. He is the center of our 
lives, and we take care of his every need. Because of TJ's 
severe brain injury, his life is built on uniformity - every 
task must be repeated in the same way and at the same time. For 
instance, each morning, I lay out breakfast materials, 
arranging dishes and silverware so that TJ won't struggle to 
find his food. I check that his shampoo and soaps are on the 
correct shelves in the shower, and I arrange his clothes 
according to their patterns and colors.
    Mary Ellen carefully organizes TJ's many seizure 
medications and supplements in containers with dots and Velcro, 
but TJ still cannot take them on his own. She is the only one 
who knows how to clean, remove, and replace TJ's prosthetic 
eyes.
    In the time since TJ's injury, we have made many friends at 
the VA in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. They notified us of their 
caregiving program, which compensates those caring for their 
loved ones full-time. We enrolled, and Mary Ellen began 
receiving a small stipend, which was cut by a third after TJ's 
first yearly evaluation. Due to the most recent assessment, our 
family will be dismissed from the program in September 2025.
    The evaluators of this program made their decision after 
asking TJ misguided questions over the phone without attempting 
to understand his care needs. They said, "TJ, can you walk 10 
feet alone?" He answered yes, so they assumed he could call a 
taxi, use mass transportation, and travel to his doctor's 
appointments alone. In reality, TJ doesn't leave our home 
without either Mary Ellen or me at his side - if he did, he 
would wander Pittston aimlessly.
    Our family's efforts to appeal this decision have failed. 
As a result, we will lose our monthly stipend in addition to 
support services, such as caregiver teleconferences for 
managing stress and book club meetings. The stipend itself is 
not much - if the VA had to provide care within a facility for 
all of the individuals in the program, their combined stipends 
wouldn't cover the cost. However, with this money, I can buy a 
few things for Mary Ellen to brighten her day or pay a couple 
of our bills.
    After September 2025, my family will still eat and provide 
constant care for TJ, but receiving the stipend is a matter of 
principle. If the VA were ending the program, we would 
understand. If the program exists, and there are families 
enrolled, while TJ, who lost his eyes and one-third of his 
brain in service to our country, is disqualified, then we are 
left wondering who truly qualifies.
    The VA's caregiving program supports countless families of 
injured service members. Please protect and strengthen access 
to this program for caregivers like Mary Ellen and I providing 
life-saving care to Veterans like TJ.
    Thank you for reading our testimony.
    Respectfully,

    Jerry Hromisin

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

                      Mark O. Rosensteel Testimony

    I joined the U.S. Air Force right out of high school on 
February 19, 1980, and went to basic training at Lackland Air 
Force Base in Texas for approximately eight weeks, graduating 
on April 1, 1980. Then, I went to a technical school in Denver, 
Colorado, for three months of intense training in electronics 
and optics. I learned how to maintain and operate high-altitude 
reconnaissance cameras for RF4C Phantom II Jets.
    My unit used RF4C Phantom II Jets, which were flown 
extensively during the Vietnam War, for photography, 
topographical map-making, and bomb damage evaluation. From 1980 
to 1983, the Air Force trained pilots to continue assessments 
with these jets and provide photographic reconnaissance of 
numerous conflicts, including Desert Storm in Iraq. Several 
times, the U.S. Forestry Service commissioned us to use a 
special film capable of distinguishing between living trees and 
those that had died due to fire, insects, or other causes.
    The RF4C Phantom II Jets had six cameras, including one for 
infrared photography. These jets also carried magnesium 
cartridges, which acted like giant flashbulbs, lighting up the 
night sky and allowing us to use standard film cameras.
    We had problems from time to time, which you may have seen 
in the news. At Shaw Air Force Base in Sumter, South Carolina, 
I reviewed film of a plane crash during pilot training. Two of 
our pilots had an in-flight emergency and could not return to 
base, so they ejected from their aircraft over the ocean. 
Usually, search and rescue would find pilots in a matter of 
hours, but on this particular day, it was not so.
    We flew planes 24 hours a day for ten days, searching for 
the pilots, but only found one. On the tenth day, the base 
commander called off the search. Even now, putting these words 
to paper hurts thinking of that lost pilot and his family. My 
unit developed close friendships working with pilots daily and 
ensuring their equipment properly functioned for each flight. 
However, sometimes, it just didn't work out.
    I was at Shaw Air Force Base for approximately eighteen 
months before the Air Force transferred my unit to Bergstrom 
Air Force Base in Austin, Texas. I worked there until the day 
of my injury.
    One weekend, we organized a cookout for a friend heading 
overseas for a one-year assignment. Everything was going great 
until I dove into a swimming pool unmarked for depth. I 
immediately snapped my neck, and my new story began.
    Paramedics soon rushed me to the hospital. I immediately 
spoke with my surgeon, and we worked everything out, or so I 
thought. Unbeknownst to me, after putting me on pain 
medication, my doctors made decisions without my consent, 
causing more damage to my spinal cord. To give you some context 
- anytime you are injured, you are covered by the military if 
you are wounded within 25 miles of your duty station or on 
leave, making my injury 100% service-connected.
    If the doctors in Austin, Texas, had fully operated on me, 
removing the damaged bone chip from my spinal cord, it would 
have reduced the severity of my injury by 90 percent. Instead, 
I was transferred to Wilford Hall in San Antonio, Texas, where 
I waited two weeks before moving to Cleveland, Ohio. There, at 
the nearest spinal cord injury center, I finally had a second 
operation to remove the bone chip causing my paralysis.
    The next day after surgery, I started to get movement back 
in my arms and wrist. Even though I went to therapy five days a 
week for the next year, I was never able to move my fingers or 
legs again. I tried everything I could to no avail.
    Now, I use V.A. facilities for medical care when needed. 
Through one of their services, the Homemaker Health Aide 
Program, I receive care five days a week, which is a tremendous 
help.
    The Elizabeth Dole Home - and Community-Based Services for 
Veterans and Caregivers Act of 2023, or the Elizabeth Dole Home 
Care Act of 2023, compensates Veterans' family members for 
their tireless work providing essential care. These programs 
save money, keeping Veterans out of expensive nursing homes. 
About ten years ago, I had a friend living in a nursing home 
who paid $6,000 monthly for a double room. She lived with a 
patient who continuously set off alarms all night long, trying 
to get her out of bed. The misery she went through in that 
nursing home was not fit for a dog. I could discuss this more, 
but it would take another two pages. If you have never had the 
chance, visit a few nursing homes, which will tell you all you 
need to know about how the staff care for their patients.
    The VA caregiving program is vital for Veterans with ALS - 
amyotrophic lateral sclerosis - and MS - multiple sclerosis. 
ALS is highly debilitating, and in most cases, Veterans with 
this condition rarely last long enough to receive care before 
their paperwork is done. Therefore, I believe these programs 
must be reformed and expanded so Veterans can receive fast-
tracked care. It is debilitating for family members left behind 
to watch their loved one's health, in some cases, deteriorate 
before their eyes.
    I have suffered from my condition for 41 years and now rely 
on a wheelchair, still doing the best I can to help my fellow 
Veterans wherever I go. Over the past few years, an 
organization I am involved with, Five Plus with Paralyzed 
Veterans of America, has advocated with our legislative 
dignitaries, trying to explain how important it is to care for 
our fellow Veterans. I understand there is only so much that 
can be done at once, but we need to do all we can.
    Thank you for this opportunity, Senator Casey.
    Respectfully,

    Mark O. Rosensteel

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "Heroes at Home: Improving Services for Veterans and Their Caregivers"

                              June 5, 2024

                       Statements for the Record

                          Rob Grier Testimony

    My name is Rob Grier, and I am the son of a United States 
Air Force disabled veteran and civil rights pioneer. I reside 
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Since 2010, I have been a 
caregiver for my parents, who are aging and have had 
significant health challenges.
    My mother, an early childhood educator who obtained her PhD 
from the University of Pittsburgh, passed away in 2016 after 
being diagnosed with Alzheimer's. My father is a proud Air 
Force veteran who served our country with honor and now faces 
service-connected disabilities. This journey has been both 
rewarding and challenging, and I am grateful for the support we 
have received from various Veteran Administration (VA) programs 
and initiatives.
    I would like to extend my deepest appreciation to Senator 
Bob Casey and his dedicated staff for their leadership and 
unwavering commitment to supporting caregivers and aging 
Pennsylvanians. Senator Casey's efforts have significantly 
impacted the lives of Pennsylvanians and the rest of the 
country, mainly through the Senator's role as Chairman of the 
Special Committee on Aging.
    I am also profoundly grateful to Senator Elizabeth Dole, 
CEO Steve Schwab, and the entire staff at the Elizabeth Dole 
Foundation for their relentless advocacy for veteran 
caregivers. The Honorable Denis McDonough, leading the 
Department of Veterans Affairs, has shown exceptional 
leadership in improving VA services. I give special thanks to 
Donald Koenig, Director of the VA Pittsburgh Healthcare System, 
and Jamie DaPos from the VA Pittsburgh Caregiver Support 
Services for their outstanding work. I also give a heartfelt 
thank you to Dad's long-time primary care physician, Dr. Maria 
Venegas Ortiz. Dad may not be here with us without her care and 
professionalism.
    Furthermore, I extend my heartfelt thanks to President Joe 
Biden for his leadership and dedication to the welfare of 
Veterans and caregivers. His commitment to addressing the needs 
of our nation's Veterans has been instrumental in driving 
positive change. Additionally, I am grateful to Secretary of 
Defense Lloyd Austin for his awe-inspiring leadership and 
support of initiatives that enhance the lives of service men 
and women, Veterans, and their families.
    The United States is facing a caregiving crisis exacerbated 
by an aging population, a shrinking healthcare workforce, the 
impacts of COVID-19, and insufficient funding for social 
services. According to the US Census Bureau, by 2050, the 
number of Americans aged 65 and older is expected to increase 
by 47%, with at least half needing caregiving. This situation 
demands urgent attention and action to support caregivers and 
their families.
    The Pittsburgh VA Healthcare System provides world-class 
care for thousands of Veterans across the United States, 
setting a benchmark for the nation. Programs like the VA 
Caregiver Support Program have been invaluable in allowing me 
to care for my father at home. This support has included 
training, technical assistance, and access to a network of 
professionals dedicated to the well-being of Veterans and their 
families. Additionally, the VA's Program of General Caregiver 
Support Services (PGCSS), CPR Training, Aid and Attendance, and 
respite care have been a tremendous help.
    The collaboration between the VA and the University of 
Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) is a model of innovation. It 
enables clinicians to rotate through different departments and 
share best practices, enhancing the quality of care provided to 
Veterans and the general public. UPMC practices inclusive care 
daily, exemplifying the commitment to integrating caregivers 
into the healthcare team. This ensures comprehensive and 
holistic care for our Veterans and the public.
    Family caregivers can improve the quality of life for 
disabled Veterans and help them recover and rehabilitate. A 
2015 National Library of Medicine study found that the VA's 
Caring for Older Adults and Caregivers at Home (COACH) program 
helped Veterans with dementia live longer at home and leave 
institutional care more quickly. The Program of Comprehensive 
Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC) also supports 
caregivers of post-9/11 Veterans who need help with daily 
activities or supervision.
    The National Institutes of Health research has shown family 
caregiving has significant benefits for patients and health 
systems because it reduces nursing home stays, inpatient 
visits, and formal home care use. Caregivers who care for 
Veterans with trauma-based comorbidities reported intensive 
caregiving and significant levels of distress, depressive 
symptoms, and other negative consequences. These caregivers 
require comprehensive support services, including access to 
health care, financial assistance, and enhanced respite care. 
The planned expansion of VA caregiver support has the potential 
to provide positive benefits for this population and serve as a 
model for caregiver support programs outside the VA healthcare 
system.
    Caregiving is critical in reducing loneliness among 
Veterans and patients in need. Loneliness is a significant risk 
factor for suicide, particularly among Veterans. According to 
the National Institutes of Health, the suicide rate for 
Veterans is 1.5 times higher than that of the general 
population. The suicide rate is 2.5 times higher for female 
Veterans compared to their non-veteran counterparts. In 2017, 
the veteran suicide rate in the United States was just over 27 
suicides per 100,000, compared to 14 suicides per 100,000 among 
civilians. Loneliness and social isolation are closely linked 
to these alarming statistics.
    Research has shown that caregiving helps reduce loneliness 
and improve social connections, which are vital in preventing 
suicide. Caregivers provide emotional and social support, 
creating a sense of belonging and community for those they care 
for. By fostering these connections, caregivers can 
significantly lower the risk of suicide among Veterans and 
other individuals in need.
    Caring for my parents has been a deeply personal and 
transformative experience. Now, having the ability to support 
my father at home means that he can age in a familiar and 
loving environment, surrounded by family. This improves his 
quality of life and provides a sense of dignity and respect for 
his service to our nation.
    The programs and resources provided by the VA, the 
Elizabeth Dole Foundation, and UPMC have been crucial in 
navigating this journey. From training and education to 
financial and emotional support, these initiatives have 
empowered me to be a better caregiver and advocate for my 
father's needs.
    These are my recommendations to improve the VA caregiver 
program -
      Expand Proven Programs: The successful programs that 
were most beneficial to us, like inclusive care, home health 
aides, respite, and the Post Acute Recovery Clinic (PARC) at 
the VA Pittsburgh Healthcare System, should be extended to 
other Pennsylvania VA hospitals and hospitals nationwide, 
ensuring that all caregivers have access to the best practices 
and resources.
      Increase Funding and Resources: Social services and 
medical care programs need increased funding to meet 
caregiving's rising costs and demands.
      Promote Private Sector Partnerships: Leveraging the 
support of private sector partners like UPMC, Comcast 
NBCUniversal, USAA, and AARP can provide additional resources 
and innovative solutions to support caregivers.
      Support Legislative Initiatives: The Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act, which would make federal funding available for the first 
time to local governmental veteran service officers, would help 
Veterans navigate the VA benefit landscape in their local 
communities.
    The caregiving crisis in the United States requires 
immediate and sustained action. I am encouraged by the efforts 
of Senator Casey and the collaborative initiatives between the 
public and private sectors. Together, we can create a future 
where caregivers are supported, and aging individuals receive 
the care and respect we all deserve. Thank you for the 
opportunity to share my journey and advocate for improved 
caregiving policies.
    Respectfully,

    Rob Grier
    
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