[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 43, Number 27 (Monday, July 9, 2007)]
[Pages 897-901]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks Following Discussions With President Vladimir Putin of Russia 
and an Exchange With Reporters in Kennebunkport

July 2, 2007

    President Bush. I wanted to congratulate the President for being the 
only person that caught a fish. It was a fine catch. Secondly, I welcome 
you to my family home.
    And we had a good, casual discussion on a variety of issues. You 
know, through the course of our relationship there have been

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times when we've agreed on issues, and there's been times when we 
haven't agreed on issues. But one thing I've found about--of Vladimir 
Putin is that he is consistent, transparent, honest, and is an easy man 
to discuss our opportunities and problems with.
    We talked about nuclear security and made great strides in setting a 
foundation for future relations between the United States and Russia in 
dealing with the nuclear security issues. We talked about our bilateral 
relations; we talked about the relations with countries like Iran and 
North Korea. We had a very long, strategic dialog that I found to be 
important, necessary, and productive.
    And so I welcome you, Vladimir. Thanks for coming.
    President Putin. I would like to congratulate us with the good work 
done.
    First of all, I would like to thank the hosts for their invitation 
and President Bush for this invitation. Indeed, we had a very nice 
fishing party this morning. We caught one fish, but that was a team 
effort----
    President Bush. A team effort----
    President Putin. ----and we let it go to the captain of the boat--
[laughter]----
    President Bush. Very thoughtful of you. [Laughter]
    President Putin. ----the 42d President of the United States. 
[Laughter]
    President Bush. That's right.
    President Putin. As for the negotiations, negotiations were very 
substantial. We discussed basically the entire gamut of both bilateral 
issues and international issues. George listed practically all issues 
that we've touched upon. And I was pleased to note that we are seeking 
the points of coincidence in our positions and very frequently we do 
found them. And I'm very grateful to the Bush family for this very warm, 
homey atmosphere around this meeting, and we appreciate it very much.
    I do believe that we have to learn something from the older 
generation. And the attitude shown both to me and to the members of my 
delegation was way beyond the official and protocol needs. And 
additionally, we had an opportunity to have a look at this part of the 
United States, a fantastic place. We've seen the warmth and the very 
positive attitude of the people around here and use this opportunity to 
say to them that we appreciate their warmness, and we are grateful for 
their very warm reception of us.
    Mind you, the fish that we caught, we've let it free. [Laughter]
    President Bush. A couple of questions. Tony, you going to call on 
them? Hold on a second, please. Please. Tony.
    White House Press Secretary Tony Snow. Deb Riechmann [Associated 
Press].
    President Bush. Deb, yes.

Iran/Missile Defense System

    Q. Mr. President, I have a question for either one, or both of you.
    President Bush. Either one of us, okay--or both of us.
    Q. Both of you. For you, sir, were you successful in getting 
President Putin's support for tough sanctions, like cargo inspections, 
against Iran?
    President Bush. We spent a lot of time talking about the Iranian 
issue, and we both agree--excuse me, go ahead. We spent a lot of time 
talking about the Iranian issue. I am concerned about the Iranians' 
attempt to develop the technologies, know-how, to develop a nuclear 
weapon. The President shares that--I'm a little hesitant to put words in 
his mouth, but I think he shares that same concern. After all, this is 
an issue we've been talking about for about 6 years.
    And I have come to the conclusion that when Russia and America 
speaks with, you know, along the same lines, it tends to have an effect. 
And therefore, I appreciate very much the Russian attitude in the United 
Nations. I have been counting on the Russians' support to send a clear 
message to the Iranians, and that support and that message is a strong 
message. And hopefully, we'll be able to convince the regime that we 
have no problems with the people in Iran, but we do have a problem with 
a regime that is in defiance of international norm.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    President Bush. Hold on for a second, please. You're more impatient 
than I was.
    And so we discussed a variety of ways to continue sending a joint 
message.
    And, by the way, one other issue that I didn't mention in my opening 
my comments that I think you'll find interesting is that

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President Putin proposed a regional approach to missile defense; that we 
ought to work together bilaterally, as well as work through the Russia-
NATO Council. And I'm in strong agreement with that concept.
    That's all I've got to say, Deb. Have you got something else you 
want to say?

Iran

    Q. Well, I still would like to know----
    President Bush. You just got wedged out, sorry.
    Q. I still would like to know if you're far apart on how tough the 
sanctions should be.
    President Bush. We're close on recognizing that we've got to work 
together to send a common message.
    Q. Okay.
    President Putin. So far, we have managed to work within the 
framework of the Security Council, and I think we will continue to be 
successful on this track. Recently, we've seen some signals coming from 
Iran with regard to interaction, cooperation with the IAEA. Mr. Solana 
also brings us some positive data and information. I think all of this 
would contribute to further, substantial intercourse on this issue.

Missile Defense System

    Q. ----Mr. Putin made a proposal for antiballistic missile 
cooperation between Russia and the United States. And you called it 
``interesting.'' In which direction your cooperation? And this 
question--[inaudible]. And what role of European countries do you see in 
this cooperation? And if it is no breakthrough in the foreseeable 
future, maybe it's a time to make a pause? Thank you.
    President Bush. Thanks. It's more than an interesting idea; it's an 
idea that we're following up on through consultative meetings, which 
we've started. And as I told you, the President made a very--I thought a 
very constructive and bold strategic move, and that is why don't we 
broaden the dialog and include Europe, through NATO and the Russia-NATO 
Council--I don't know if you want to expand on that or not.
    President Putin. Oh, I have to answer that too? As President Bush 
has already said, we do support the idea of the continued consultations 
on this score. At the same time, we do believe that the number of 
parties to this consultation could be expanded through the European 
countries who are interested in resolving the issue. And the idea is to 
achieve this through the forum of the Russia-NATO cooperation--Council.
    But our proposal is not limited to this only. We propose 
establishing an information exchange center in Moscow. We've agreed on 
that a few years back; it's time now to put this decision into practice. 
But this is not yet all. A similar center could be established in one of 
the European capitals, in particular, in Brussels, for example. This 
could have been a single system that would work online.
    In this case, there would be no need to place any more facilities in 
Europe--I mean, these facilities in Czech Republic and the missile base 
in Poland. And if need be, we are prepared to involve in this work, not 
only the Gabala radar, which we rent from the Azerbaijanis--if 
necessary, we are prepared to modernize it. And if that is not enough, 
we would be prepared to engage in this system also a newly built radar, 
early warning system in the south of Russia.
    Such cooperation, I believe, would result in raising to an entirely 
new level the quality of cooperation between Russia and the United 
States. And for all practical purposes, this would lead to a gradual 
development of strategic partnership in the area of security.
    As for the Europeans, well, it's their choice; each and every 
country will have to decide whether it wants to be part of the system or 
not. But it would be clear to even a layman, if a country doesn't decide 
in a strategic partnership, this choice would determine the position of 
any country both in economic terms and on the political arena in the 
final analysis, in the long term.
    Therefore, I'm confident that there will be interested partners or 
parties in Europe.
    Mr. Snow. Caren Bohan [Reuters].

U.S.-Russia Relations/Democracy in Russia

    Q. Thank you. Mr. President, 6 years ago, you seemed to have formed 
a bond with President Putin, when you said you had gotten a sense of his 
soul. Do you still feel that you trust him? And how troubled are you

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by the political freedoms--the state of political freedoms in Russia?
    And President Putin, do you appreciate advice from Washington about 
democracy in Russia?
    President Bush. Here's the thing: When you're dealing with a world 
leader, you wonder whether or not he's telling the truth or not. I've 
never had to worry about that with Vladimir Putin. Sometimes he says 
things I don't want to hear, but I know he's always telling me the 
truth. And you don't have to guess about his opinions, which makes it a 
lot easier to do--to find common ground.
    And so you ask, do I trust I him? Yes, I trust him. Do I like 
everything he says? No. And I suspect he doesn't like everything I say. 
But we're able to say it in a way that shows mutual respect.
    Take missile defense. He just laid out a vision. I think it's very 
sincere. I think it's innovative. I think it's strategic. But as I told 
Vladimir, I think that the Czech Republic and Poland need to be an 
integral part of the system. And the only way I know how to find common 
ground on complicated issues is to share my thoughts, and that's what he 
does with me. And so I've had a very constructive relationship.
    Obviously, you know--I'll let him talk about his view of democracy, 
but I will tell you, at the G-8 in St. Petersburg, he did a very 
interesting thing. You might remember the dinner when you said, 
``Anybody who has got any doubts about democracy, ask me questions.'' 
And I remember part of my discussions with him about whether or not 
the--you know, how--the relations between the Government and the press, 
you'll be amazed to hear. He strongly defends his views, and you can 
listen to him yourself, right now. But ours is a relationship where I 
feel very comfortable bringing up and asking him why he's made decisions 
he's made.
    President Putin. Speaking of common democratic values, we are guided 
by the idea and principle that these are important both for you and for 
us. In the last 15 years, Russia undergone a very serious 
transformation. It has to do with changes in the political system and in 
the economic system as well.
    Of course, it has considerable social repercussions and 
consequences. All of this taken together has determined the way our 
transition and our society has been developing and forming. Even in the, 
shall we say, sustainable democracies, mature democracies, we see 
basically the same problems, the same issue that they have to deal with. 
It has to do with the relationship with the media; it has to do with 
human rights and the right for private life being beyond the control of 
the Government and the state. If you remember how Larry King tortured 
the former CIA Director, you would also understand that there are some 
other problems and issues, as well, in this world. [Laughter] And I 
cannot even repeat all the things that were said then.
    We have common problems. And we are prepared to listen to each 
other. The only thing that we would never, never accept is these tools--
this leverage being used to interfere into our domestic affairs to make 
us do things the way we would do not see fit. In our dialog, in our 
contacts with President Bush, we always discuss these things, and he 
says it frankly and straightly, and we are always constantly engaged in 
the dialog geared to making things better in Russia and elsewhere.
    I do not always agree with him, but we never engage in paternalism. 
We do not assume mentors' tone. We always talk as friends.

U.S.-Russia Relations

    Q. Mr. President, how do you evaluate the relations between Russia 
and the U.S. right now? Are they in crisis or not? And what is the 
legacy you are planning to leave to your successor? Also, since for you 
both this is your final year in office----
    President Bush. Not mine. I've got more than a year. Anyway, nice 
try. [Laughter]
    Q. Since 2008, elections year for both of you, do you believe that--
are you going to meet after you are not Presidents any more, or is this 
your final meeting?
    President Bush. Yes, thank you.
    President Putin. I do believe that our relationship developed 
normally, not bad, and they are being strengthened every time we meet. 
And the relationship between Russia and the United States is entirely 
different than that between the United States and the

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Soviet Union. And we are not--we do not look at each other through the 
sights of our weapons systems. And in this, I fully agree with my 
colleague, President Bush.
    As for the future, as I already mentioned, we are now discussing a 
possibility of raising our relations to an entirely new level that would 
involve a very private and very, shall we say, sensitive dialog on all 
issues related to international security, including, of course, the 
missile defense issue.
    If this is to happen, I would like to draw your attention to this: 
The relations between our two countries would be raised to an entirely 
new level. Gradually, our relations would become those of a strategic 
partnership nature. It would mean raising the level of our--and 
improving the level of our interaction in the area of international 
security, thus leading to improved political interaction and cooperation 
with a final effect being, of course, evident in our economic relations 
and situation.
    Well, basically, we may state that the deck has been dealt, and we 
are here to play. And I would very much hope that we are playing one and 
the same game.
    President Bush. I think we'll see each other in Australia. Secondly, 
I know we'll be talking on the phone because there's a lot of issues 
that we are working together on, which is part of the legacy of this 
relationship, and that is that it's in the U.S. interest to keep close 
relations with Russia, and that when it comes to confronting real 
threats, such as nuclear proliferation or the threat of radicalism and 
extremism, Russia is a good, solid partner.
    Russia has made some amazing progress in a very quick period of 
time. One of the first conversations I had with Vladimir Putin was about 
Soviet-era debt. This is a country with no debt. It's got solid 
reserves. It's a significant international player. It's got a growing 
middle class. For those old Russian hands who remember what it was like, 
there's an amazing transformation taking place. Is it perfect from the 
eyes of Americans? Not necessarily. Is the change real? Absolutely. And 
it's in our interests--in the U.S. interests to have good, solid 
relations with Russia. And that's what Vladimir and I have worked hard 
to achieve.
    And we're going to go continue those relations with a lunch. So 
thanks for coming.
    President Putin. Of course we will continue our relations in the 
future. Today's fishing party demonstrated that we have a very similar--
we share the same passion--that is, passion.

Vice President Richard B. Cheney

    Q. Is Cheney a member of the executive branch?
    President Bush. I didn't hear you.

Note: The President spoke at 12:28 p.m. at Walker's Point. President 
Putin referred to European Union Foreign Minister Javier Solana 
Madriaga; Cable News Network talk show host Larry King; and former 
Central Intelligence Agency Director George J. Tenet. President Putin 
and some reporters spoke in Russian, and their remarks were translated 
by an interpreter. A portion of these remarks could not be verified 
because the tape was incomplete.