[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 42, Number 47 (Monday, November 27, 2006)]
[Pages 2078-2082]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks Following a Meeting With President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono of 
Indonesia and an Exchange With Reporters in Bogor

November 20, 2006

     President Yudhoyono. Your Excellency, President Bush, members of 
the press, allow me to speak in Bahasa Indonesia.

[At this point, President Yudhoyono continued his remarks in Bahasa 
Indonesia, and they were translated by an interpreter.]

     Ladies and gentlemen, today we have received a visit of President 
Bush, who has come here to increase our cooperation and friendship 
between Indonesia and the United States. And we just discussed a number 
of agenda in order to improve--increase our relations.
     In the bilateral meeting, I expressed my thanks for the cooperation 
and assistance given by the United States to Indonesia in the field of 
economics, investment, trade, education, health, technology, military, 
and so on. I also expressed thanks for the U.S. assistance, and also 
other countries, during the Aceh tsunami and also, more recently, during 
the earthquake in Yogyakarta and central Java, which shows solidarity 
and cooperation between the two countries.
     After that, we discussed in detail a number of cooperation in our 
agenda. We discussed health cooperation, especially on how to fight 
avian flu and other infectious diseases, which are found in the tropical 
areas, especially in Indonesia.
     On education, we already have a good cooperation, and we will 
continue this cooperation and hope this cooperation will be continued 
between Indonesia and the U.S. as part of our educational agenda.
     We also discussed energy, and we spent time discussing bioenergy 
fuels. And I'm glad that President Bush has said that he would share 
technology in other matters relating to development of alternative 
energy.
     Lastly, we discussed how to deal with natural disasters, especially 
on how to build an early warning system in Indonesia. I expressed my 
appreciation to the assistance given by the United States Government, 
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we also cooperate also with other countries on building this early 
warning system.
     We also discussed a number of international issues, global issues, 
such as the situation in the Middle East, the situation in North Korea, 
Iraq, and also Palestine. And of course, we agree on the need to find a 
solution to these issues.
     After the discussions, we had a meeting with civic leaders, and we 
discussed all the things that we discussed earlier in the bilateral 
meeting, especially on how to improve the quality of life and how to 
make Indonesia-U.S. partnership--contribute to improving this quality of 
life.
     The discussions were open, frank, constructive, sometimes critical, 
and what is important is that we tried to discuss cooperation on how to 
make Indonesia-U.S. relations touch on the lives of our people.
     President Bush. Mr. President, thank you very much. Thanks for the 
invitation to come back to your beautiful country. Laura and I are 
thrilled to be here, and we're looking forward to our dinner tonight 
with you and your wife and your delegation. You lead a large and diverse 
nation with a very bright future.
    During my visit here, we're going to continue to work to build a 
relationship between our two nations that will last beyond the 
immediate. It's a relationship that should last for decades to come. 
It's important to our nation that we have good, strong relations with 
Indonesia.
     We've just come from the APEC summit in Vietnam, and the people of 
Indonesia should know that when their elected leader speaks, other 
leaders listen, as do I. Mr. President, you're well respected in the 
international community, and I appreciate your perspective on global and 
international issues, and thank you for sharing them with me again 
today.
     This afternoon we also discussed bilateral initiatives that will 
expand opportunity for the people of Indonesia and, at the same time, 
deepen our partnership. We support your country's reform efforts, Mr. 
President. I thank you for your leadership on that important issue. The 
Indonesian President understands that economic reform and fighting 
corruption and investing in people will help this important nation 
succeed.
     We are committed to helping you on all these initiatives. Last 
week, we signed a $55 million Millennium Challenge Account threshold 
agreement. This agreement means that the American people will support 
Indonesia's efforts to reform its democratic institutions and strengthen 
governance. We would not have made this commitment, Mr. President, if 
you were, yourself, not committed to reform.
     The agreement is going to help fund your strategy to immunize your 
children against deadly diseases. We support your attempts to modernize 
your education system. We have pledged and provided over $150 million to 
the Indonesian Government to help provide the tools that will give the 
next generation of Indonesians the chance to realize their enormous 
potential. One thousand schools spread across eight provinces in 
Indonesia are now benefiting from our education partnership. And as I 
told you in our meeting, we will continue to help.
     Our two nations continue to build strong trade and investment 
relationships. We're determined to grow our economies in a way that are 
sustainable. Last week, we signed an agreement to help Indonesia 
conserve its forests. Together our nations will fight illegal logging 
while promoting trade in forest products that does not threaten the 
region's environmental quality.
     Our two nations recognize we must explore alternatives to fossil 
fuels. The President and I have spent quite a bit of time talking about 
this important issue. The people of Indonesia have got to know that, for 
national security purposes and for economic security purposes, America 
must spend research money to enable us to have alternative sources of 
energy from oil.
     I told the President that I am committed to sharing technologies as 
they become developed to help us all become less dependent on oil. And I 
appreciate your commitment, sir, to biofuels as an alternative source of 
energy.
     We talked about avian influenza. In this world of ours today, if 
there's an influenza outbreak in Vietnam, it could affect Indonesia or 
the people of America. And therefore, we need to work in a collaborative 
way to deal with this grave threat. We'll continue

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to fund our partnership on this issue, Mr. President, as well as our 
partnership to protect public health in Indonesia.
     We support Indonesia's growing global role. Indonesia will soon 
take a seat on the United Nations Security Council. We discussed threats 
to global security and how together our two nations can help provide a 
peaceful way forward.
     We discussed North Korea, and we discussed Iran. Both regimes have 
nuclear ambitions. Nuclear weapons in the hands of these regimes would 
make the people of the Middle East and Northeast Asia less secure. The 
President and I discussed how the International Atomic Energy Agency and 
the six-party talks provide the best opportunity to seek peaceful, 
diplomatic solutions to our concerns about these weapons programs.
     The United Nations requires reform to become a more effective 
institution, and I know that Indonesia will be a strong voice for 
positive change in the United Nations. And we look forward to having you 
on the Security Council.
     The American people and the Indonesian people have both suffered 
from the acts of violent extremists. Our nations are determined to take 
effective action against terror networks that plot new attacks against 
innocent people. Indonesia is an example of how democracy and 
modernization can provide an alternative to extremism. And we appreciate 
your leadership, Mr. President. Your democracy is making Indonesia 
strong and better able to play a positive role in Southeast Asia and the 
world. Our talks today have been very constructive. I appreciate your 
hospitality. And I presume we'll take some questions.
     President Yudhoyono. Thank you very much, Mr. President.

Democracy in Indonesia

    Q. I would like to ask you--as you mentioned before, Indonesia now 
is growing toward democratization, and how do you think the process of 
democratization in Indonesia--the progress of democratization is going? 
And I have a second question.
     President Bush. How many do you get to ask here in Indonesia?
    Q. Excuse me?
     President Bush. How many questions do you get to ask? [Laughter] 
Keep firing away. You're just setting a bad example for the American 
press corps. [Laughter]
    Q. Well, lots of Indonesians think that you have a hidden agenda 
going here----
     President Bush. Oh, yes?
    Q. ----such as securing your Exxon deal in Natuna. And what is your 
comment on that?
     President Bush. Well, we didn't discuss it.
    Q. [Inaudible]
     President Bush. No, we did not discuss it. You asked about 
Indonesian democracy--here's living proof right here. He ran a campaign; 
he said, ``Vote for me; I will do the following things''; he's following 
through on his promises. The elections were open; the elections were 
clean; the elections were fair. And you elected a good President, who is 
working hard to--in a tough job. And I don't think the American people 
understand how big Indonesia is--17,000 islands, 6,000 of them 
inhabited, with a variety of demographics. The President kindly hosted a 
meeting today with civil society leaders, which points up to the 
diversity of this great nation--different religions, different 
backgrounds, different people, all united under a democratic--under a 
democracy.
     And so I would say, your progress is very good. But we all have 
work to do in our respective democracies. Our transition to democracy 
wasn't all that smooth in America. If you study American history, we had 
some rough go for awhile. And it's hard work to make sure the 
institutions are sound so that people can live in a free society that's 
based upon the rule of law. But the President is committed to it, and 
he's working hard to it, and I would say you're making good progress.
     Terry Hunt [Terence Hunt, Associated Press]--go ahead and yell it.

U.S. Troops in Iraq

    Q. Mr. President----
     President Bush. Oops, don't yell it. [Laughter]
    Q. Mr. President, you've talked about the dangers of leaving Iraq 
too soon, but you

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haven't talked about what risks might be involved in adding tens of 
thousands of troops to secure Baghdad, as Senator McCain has suggested. 
What are the downsides, if any, to that approach?
     And I'd like to ask the President of Indonesia, what suggestions 
did you make to President Bush about his Iraq policy?
     President Bush. Terry, we haven't made up--I haven't made any 
decisions about troop increases or troop decreases, and won't until I 
hear from a variety of sources, including our own United States 
military. As you know, General Pace, who is the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff, is in the process of evaluating a lot of suggestions 
from the field and from people involved with the Central Command as well 
as at the Pentagon. And they will be bringing forth the suggestions and 
recommendations to me here as quickly as possible.
     But, so I haven't--there's no need to comment on something that may 
not happen. But if it were to happen, I will tell you the upsides and 
downside.
     President Yudhoyono. My view on how could we work together at 
ending conflict in Iraq or in finding a proper and realistic solution 
for Iraq is that global community must be also responsible in solving 
the problems in Iraq. Talking about long-term state building, nation 
building in Iraq, I think it's not only the responsibility of the 
missions of the United States and other countries who are now involved 
in Iraq but, of course, is the roles and responsibility of other nations 
as well--other communities as well.
     Indonesia believes very strongly, if we could work together, if we 
share and exchange of ideas, then there must be a proper and realistic 
solution in the long term in finding, again, a proper solution for Iraq 
that's good for Iraq, good for neighboring countries, good for the U.S., 
good for Indonesia, and good for all communities in the world.

Alternative Fuel Sources/Indonesia

    Q. I would like to ask Mr. President Bush--President Bush--
[inaudible]--relations between the United States and Indonesia is 
strong, and as you--[inaudible]--the United States is a longstanding 
partner of Indonesia. As you probably know, Indonesia is currently 
developing alternative energy, mainly biofuel. Are you willing to 
cooperate in this area? And can the United States share its technology 
with Indonesia and, for the example, trading biofuels. Thank you.
     President Bush. Yes, thanks. I'm very supportive of biofuel 
initiatives, starting in our own country. It's important for us to 
develop alternative ways to power our vehicles if we want to become less 
dependent on oil. And so for example, we're now consuming about 5 
billion gallons of ethanol, which is a fuel made, in our case, from 
corn. The President and I spent a fair amount of time talking about the 
ability to develop biofuels, particularly in Indonesia's case, from 
sugar cane as well as palm oil. And the technologies are available to 
convert sugar into ethanol. For example, the country of Brazil powers 
its automobiles with about 85 percent of all fuels from ethanol from 
sugar cane.
     The other interesting fact for people to understand is that the 
technology to have a gasoline-driven automobile be powered by ethanol is 
very simple. It's what's called flex-fuel automobiles. And so there's--
we're on the beginning stages of really a change in how we consume 
energy. And it's in the world's interest that we promote biofuels.
     Where the United States needs to go though, is that we can't rely 
upon corn only to develop our ethanols. And so we're spending a lot of 
money on cellulosic research, and that is the ability to convert wood 
chips, for example, to ethanol. And as those technologies become 
feasible and economic, we will share them with other countries. It's in 
our interests, it's in the U.S. interest that others use biofuel, as 
well as our own.
     And so I'm optimistic about the technologies that are developing. 
I'm also realistic to understand it's going to take awhile to get them--
to bring them to the--to make them economic. But we're spending a lot of 
money on this type of research. And the President needs to know that as 
it becomes commercially capable, we'll share it.
     Matt [Matthew Spetalnick, Reuters].

U.S. Foreign Policy

    Q. President Bush.
     President Bush. Yes, Matt.

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    Q. Here in the world's most populous Muslim nation, thousands have 
demonstrated for days, saying that your policy in the Middle East and 
Iraq and elsewhere is anti-Islamic. How do you fight that impression? 
And doesn't it require more than just a reassertion of your existing 
foreign policy goals?
     And for President Yudhoyono, did you, in your talks with President 
Bush, urge him to begin a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq as soon as 
possible?
     President Bush. I mean, I'll be glad to answer it for him--no, he 
didn't. But he can answer it for himself. [Laughter]
     Look, I applaud a society where people are free to come and express 
their opinion. And it's to Indonesia's credit that it's a society where 
people are able to protest and say what they think. And it's not the 
first time, by the way, where people have showed up and expressed their 
opinion about my policies. But that's what happens when you make hard 
decisions.
     My answer to people about whether or not--how do you comfort people 
of the Muslim faith that our policies are open, is that I believe 
freedom is universal and democracy is universal. I don't believe it's 
the sole right of the United States or the sole right of Methodists. I 
believe in the universality of freedom. And therefore--and I believe 
people desire to live in free societies, and I believe the vast majority 
of people want to live in moderation and not have extremists kill 
innocent people.
     And so therefore, our policies are to promote that kind of form of 
government. It's not going to look like America; it's going to be 
different from America. And I also would tell people that democracies 
yield peace. Democracies don't fight each other. One of the reasons why 
I am proud to call this President friend is because he understands the 
power of democracy, and he understands it's a universal right.
     And so therefore, to say spreading democracy is antireligious--it's 
the opposite of that. Democracy means you can worship any way you 
choose, freely. And so, look, people protest; that's a good sign. It's a 
good sign of a healthy society.
     President Yudhoyono. Well, to elaborate my first view on Iraq, I 
would like to say that probably we have to think about developing a 
triple-track solution. One is really important is having national 
reconciliation in Iraq, together with the empowerment of the existing 
national Government is very important, so Iraq can handle her own 
problem.
     Second is, of course, we have to involve other parties. We have to 
probably deploy and employ new setup of security forces in parallel with 
some day, this on a proper timetable, the disengagement of U.S. military 
forces and other coalition forces from Iraq.
     And of course, the third track is also not to be neglected, is how 
do the international community work together in conducting 
reconstruction and rehabilitation of Iraq after the conflict.
     So I think we have to combine all those three solutions before, 
actually, the United States can determine what the possible policies to 
be developed in the future related to the withdrawal or disengagement of 
the U.S. forces from Iraq.
    Q. So do you believe--[inaudible]--U.S. forces should remain in Iraq 
then?
     President Yudhoyono. I think I have explained my view on those 
three tracks of solution. And the future disengagement of U.S. forces 
from Iraq must be connected to the other two that I have mentioned 
already.
     Thank you.

Note: The President spoke at approximately 6:45 p.m. at Bogor Palace. In 
his remarks, he referred to Kristiani Herawati, wife of President 
Yudhoyono. President Yudhoyono spoke partly in Bahasa Indonesia, and 
those portions of his remarks were translated by an interpreter.