[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 39, Number 1 (Monday, January 6, 2003)]
[Pages 6-19]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks During a Walking Tour of the Bush Ranch and an Exchange With 
Reporters in Crawford

January 2, 2003

    The President. Good morning, everybody.
    Q. Good morning, sir.
    The President. Let's go. I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll walk 
about 3 or 4 miles, and then we'll end up having coffee. Mrs. Bush wants 
to say hello to everybody.
    Q. All right.
    The President. Come on. Come on, Barney. We'll walk out--it's a 
little muddy. I need somebody walking up here with me. I can't be--Reed, 
get out of the pictures. [Laughter] Come on, Stretch [David Gregory, NBC 
News], get in here.
    Q. How are you? Happy New Year.
    The President. Same to you all. We're trimming a lot of underbrush, 
still. Come on, Barn. Are you going to make it, Heidi [Holly 
Rosenkrantz, Bloomberg News]?
    Q. I'll be fine.
    The President. We've got a truck for you back there.
    Q. Don't worry about me.
    Q. Who's going to carry Barney?
    The President. He's coming.
    Q. He can walk 4 miles?
    The President. Oh, yes, he'll walk 4. Where is he? Come on over, 
Barney.
    Q. I don't remember--you've had the guesthouse all along, right?
    The President. That's the Secret Service.
    Q. That I know, but I mean, last time I actually saw this was 2000--
--
    The President. Oh, really?
    Q. ----when it was still a shell. Remember, you walked us through 
that in July?
    The President. Turn right here, guys. That's a little--right over 
there is another little house we refurbished, got a gym in there, and 
one bedroom. And then that's a little guesthouse over there, a garage.
    Q. That was part of the original----
    The President. Yes.
    Q. Look at Barney trying to make it through the woods there.
    The President. Come on, boy.
    Q. Lot of legs.
    Q. He's trying to get to you. [Laughter]
    The President. This is pretty good--[inaudible]--in there.
    Q. Is this manmade, sir?
    The President. Manmade.
    Q. How many acres?
    The President. About 11 acres lake, 17 foot deep, the deepest spot. 
I put 600 black bass in there a few years ago, and about 30,000 bait 
fish. And they're about 2\1/2\ to 3 pounds now. A bad time to fish, 
because the fish are lethargic during the cold. We've got bluegill and 
shad and perch.

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    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Oh, it's fantastic. We got up yesterday--Laura and I 
have got a tradition of--we go for a sunrise walk on the first day of 
the year. So yesterday we popped about of bed about 7:20 a.m., and we 
started moving, walked 4 miles.
    Q. Great.
    Q. Wasn't as chilly yesterday.
    The President. No, it wasn't.
    Q. You'll get up and run in this cold, won't you?
    The President. Oh, absolutely. Start over there at the house. We've 
got different running--come on, Barn.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Yes, maybe. This is an old dirt road, so we put--
[inaudible]--on it, to withstand the--we're going to walk--[inaudible]--
then we're going to go down into the canyons, so it won't be quite as 
cold.
    Q. Will we see the waterfall?
    The President. Absolutely.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. I went in there yesterday to make sure there was 
water in--[inaudible].
    Q. So have you had friends out?
    The President. Oh yes, every night. We've got--tonight we've got my 
long-time ally and friend Elton Bomer, who was the insurance 
commissioner and the secretary of state when I was the Governor, and a 
former state senator for this district, David Sibley, and his wife are 
coming. Condi's coming.
    So, for example, this is one of the trails, this is a mile-and-a-
half spot for one of the trails. You'll see those markers.
    Q. From the house?
    The President. From the house. The different colors on there. Is 
Barney back there? Is he back there? He's getting in the truck. 
[Laughter] Barney got nervous with the crowd here.
    Q. If he gets too far behind, we can helo him in.
    The President. Now, these are all live oaks in here, and when live 
oaks like this they're called ``motts.''
    Q. Motts? M-o-t?
    The President. M-o-t-t. A mott is where a group of trees grow quite 
tight together.
    Q. They never lose their leaves?
    The President. The live oaks do not lose their leaves. And these 
are--this is great deer country in there. Here are some of the beautiful 
live oaks.
    Q. Now, has the range changed a lot more--you made the lake a little 
bigger and----
    The President. Yes, the lake is a little fuller but only because of 
the wild grasses. And what Laura is doing is around the house is trying 
to restore the country to the native prairie grasses. And these are all 
different native grasses from Texas. So you'll see--when we get back to 
the house, all inside the barbed wire fence here will eventually be 
made----
    Q. Has this all changed a lot since you came?
    The President. Oh, yes. This is all different. And so in the spring, 
particularly in a year like this year, there will be fantastic 
wildflowers.
    Q. How nice.
    Q. How many miles of trails have you all put in?
    The President. A lot.
    Q. Just all over?
    The President. Yes. You can run probably 6 miles without doubling.
    Q. Without doubling over.
    The President. The other thing that's really interesting--I hope we 
see them--is there are a lot of cardinals here this time of year.
    Q. What's your favorite time to come?
    Q. We might scare them away with this group.
    The President. No, I don't think so. Any time.
    Q. Really? You don't have a favorite season?
    The President. No. I like it warm. [Laughter]
    Q. Really hot, huh?
    The President. We're going to have a muddy spot up here, so bear 
with us. We're going to go right and head west out for about a mile. And 
then we're going to go down, and there will be a rest spot in there.
    You're doing great.
    Q. Oh, thanks. Don't worry about me.

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    The President. The medical unit will be here--[laughter]. We'll warm 
up going this way.
    One of the things about this place, you'll see, is for example, that 
little clump of trees is the head of a long canyon that goes down--I'll 
show you the canyon. There's seven different canyons on here that create 
really unique----
    Q. They're not connected to one another?
    The President. No, they're separate and unique.
    Q. So when you tell us you're clearing brush, does that mean you're 
setting these trails up?
    The President. No, no. What it means is--you see that little brush 
over there? The pile of brush?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Underneath these--see those cedars right there, 
growing underneath the live oaks?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. We're cutting those down.
    Q. Why?
    The President. Because the cedars take water.
    Q. Oh, okay.
    The President. They talk water from the big trees, and they're kind 
of like a nuisance.
    Q. Do you know how they got here?
    The President. As a matter of fact, they got here when pioneers 
planted them for--go left here; this is the worst mud--pioneers planted 
them for fenceposts.
    Q. And then they started to----
    The President. You see the dark? I mean, we've got enough cedars 
for----
    Q. You'll be clearing up----
    The President. We won't clear this.
    Q. It grows back real quick, right?
    The President. It does grow back.
    Q. Do you burn it?
    The President. We burn it, yes. We were burning yesterday, but the 
grass wasn't dry--[inaudible]--have to call in fire--[inaudible].
    Q. In Australia we call it ``bigelow.''
    The President. Oops, be careful. That's the worst.
    Q. The wetlands, right?
    The President. Preserves. Claire, get in--oh, you made it? Oh, good. 
Whose shoes are you wearing, Claire?
    Deputy Press Secretary Claire Buchan. Harriet's. [Laughter]
    The President. The big tree up there on the left is called a cedar 
elm. Loses its leaves. It's got kind of a skirt to it, at the rear base 
of the--they tend to have a skirt to it.
    Q. What are these trees here, these ones with the bare----
    The President. It's some kind of a oak. The live oak doesn't lose 
it's leaves. That one right there is a hackberry. They're a terrible 
tree. They're trash trees. They're not native.
    That's a cedar elm there. Those are cedar elms, Stretch.
    Q. How many cows?
    The President. I've got 200 mother cows and 6 bulls. That's a cow 
camp operation, kind of like a little nursery is the best way to put it.
    Q. Now, these aren't yours. These are----
    The President. No.
    Q. Leases, or whatever?
    The President. Yes. Kenneth Engelbrecht. I bought the place from his 
dad, and he and his wife live on here.
    Isn't this a beautiful day?
    Q. It really is. It's gorgeous.
    Q. Have you had your run?
    The President. I'm not going to run today. I went over--I had my CIA 
briefing and had a visit with the Vice President this morning.
    Q. Via telecom?
    The President. Yes. Real time, secure----
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Absolutely. [Inaudible]--technology.
    Q. When did they really--when did they really bring that online?
    The President. Last year. Pretty soon they're going to have it on 
Air Force One.
    Q. What?
    The President. Real time, secure videoconferencing. It really 
changes--will change the nature of how people live in many ways.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. But imagine, you know, your business--or your 
business, for example. You'll be able to have----
    Q. Oh, we're all ready--yes.

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    The President. You've got real time--[inaudible]--sitting around 
with your editors and----
    Q. Oh, yes. There is so much that we're starting to do now on 
computers, where you can edit stuff on laptops and--[inaudible].
    The President. Maybe they can enhance your face. [Laughter]
    Q. That's what I'm working on.
    The President. Super enhancement. [Laughter]
    Q. Oh, look at this, my wife just got me this little palm pilot 
here, and my organizer. It's got a camera in there.
    The President. Oh, fantastic. I notice telephones have got that now, 
where you----
    Q. Yes, oh, I know. I think that's a little too much business going 
on in--[inaudible]. [Laughter]
    The President. So what you'll see is three different parts of Texas. 
You'll see this, kind of the central plains, flat. This is more rolling, 
where it's the--rock is closer to the surface. Oh, here comes Laura.
    Q. Yes, I noticed she was out with friends, huh?
    The President. Yes--[inaudible].
    Q. And Spot?
    The President. Spot, the dog.
    Q. Barney was out--one day out on where we do our live shot.
    The President. Right. [Laughter]
    Q. I said, I don't think--[inaudible]--out here fraternizing.
    The President. That's not true. He knows that's not true. [Laughter]
    Q. We saw some fox, and looked like turkeys or----
    The President. Turkey buzzards, yes. A lot of hawks here. Red tail, 
we saw a red tail hawk yesterday. There's those puppy dogs--loyal dog, 
great athlete.

[At this point, the President whistled.]

    Q. He came----
    The President. Yes. Hey, Spotty. Hi, Laura.
    The First Lady.  Hey.
    The President. How is it? Take Barney with you, okay? He's in the 
truck. We'll see you back at the house.
    Q. I mean, you do this often; I wasn't here, but when we were here 
in 2000, we went the other way, right? I seem to remember taking a drive 
the other way past the house. Am I wrong?
    The President. No, you're right.
    Q. It's hard to believe it was going on 3 years ago. [Laughter]
    The President. It's unbelievable, isn't it? Heck of an ordeal, 
wasn't it? For all of us involved.
    Q. Yeah. [Laughter]
    The President. It's amazing what the democracy puts the--
[inaudible]--what kind of people are involved in the campaign, because 
we were--it's a grueling experience. I remember meeting your dad, 
sitting behind the----
    Q. Yes. [Laughter]
    The President. How is he?
    Q. He's doing great. Yes, he's doing great.
    The President. Big old guy.
    Q. Yeah, he is. We're real excited because I got--I was around 
Christmas and stuff----
    The President. With the kid?
    Q. I got the picture of you holding Max, and they loved that. 
[Laughter]
    The President. Well, I'm sure their life is changed with Max.
    Q. Yes. They're having a great time. They're going up that way--I 
can't remember--in a week.
    The President. That's fantastic.
    Q. He's probably traveled more than I have. [Laughter]
    The President. That's hard to do, David.
    Q. Yes. [Laughter]
    The President. It's warming up, Patsy [Patricia Wilson, Reuters].
    Q. [Inaudible]--about 30 degrees warmer.
    The President. Yesterday was fantastic.
    Q. Yes, it was gorgeous.
    Q. Do you believe how fast it does go, though? I mean, it's----
    The President. A few months. Some of them are already talking about 
'04.
    Q. Did you see Edwards--[inaudible]--this morning?
    The President. No.
    Q. He announced on the ``Today'' show that he's going to be--
[inaudible].
    The President. Oh, really?
    Q. I haven't caught my breath from----
    The President. Well, if you think about it--if you think about it, 
remember the '98

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campaign, that was the--the beginning of the '98 campaign there was a 
lot of speculation about whether or not I was going to run. And got 
through the session and '99, it was right after that we all got on the 
plane.
    Q. I remember----
    The President. [Inaudible]
    Q. Yes, I remember--[inaudible]. I remember Jamie Gangel [NBC News] 
did that piece about you, and you--were you out fishing somewhere?
    The President. That was in Austin. But that was before--I mean, that 
was in--[inaudible]--Texas. That was when we had the place in east 
Texas.
    Q. But that was early on, right? I mean, you weren't----
    The President. No, I wasn't--[inaudible]. That was a nice piece.
    This is it for mud. [Laughter] Down here--[inaudible]. We go out to 
the tree line, way out there.
    Q. You know, this summer was the first time I've been to 
Kennebunkport, that was just fabulous.
    The President. It's nice, isn't it? It's not as nice as Crawford, 
but it's nice. [Laughter] Yes, Kennebunkport is a beautiful place to--
[inaudible].
    Q. [Inaudible] But it is a lot more boxed-in than this, you know? 
You can't come some place and just----
    The President. Hang out. There's--[inaudible]--he's looking at his 
cows.
    Q. They seem like they do a good job of not shutting the place down 
at all.
    The President. Kennebunkport?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Yes, I guess. How do I know?
    Q. It's a lot flatter here.
    The President. Yes. It's not going to be flat here in a minute.
    Q. [Inaudible]--didn't go anywhere yet.
    The President. Well, that's a different--that's your pink route. 
We've got a lot of turkey live on this ranch. It's really fun to see 
them.
    Q. They're pretty.
    The President. Oh, they're fantastic. There's a tank right there. 
Right on the other side there's--[inaudible].
    Q. When you bought it, did you have a pretty good idea what you were 
getting? Or have you discovered----
    The President. No, I discovered a lot. I really did. It was a--I 
knew we were getting some dramatic country that was very rare for Texas, 
but I wasn't sure about all the little nooks and crannies.
    Q. Right. A lot of them still covered up?
    The President. Yes, there are some. You'll see. You'll see some of 
the----
    Q. There seems to be a fair amount of water on the property.
    The President. A lot of water right there. But you'll see some of 
the places that we have cleaned out, and you'll see some of these cliffs 
that have got unique little structures to them. I discovered an 
interesting rock formation the other day when we were up here scouting 
around on this cliff.
    There's a cottonwood tree. See that isolated tree right there? The 
cottonwood is a fantastic tree. It grows along the riverbed, and somehow 
this thing ended up here alone. It must have a source of water. We've 
got two cottonwood trees on the whole ranch, and that's one of them.
    Patsy, are you hitting the tennis ball at all?
    Q. No, not--it's too cold. My hands get too cold to hold the racket. 
I'm not ready to challenge John Bridgeland yet. [Laughter]
    The President. Bridgeland is a good player.
    Q. I know. He played for Harvard, didn't he?
    The President. I think he did. I'll tell you who's a good racket man 
is Al Gonzales.
    Q. Really?
    The President. Racketball.
    Q. Oh, racketball.
    The President. Stretch claims he's a good tennis player.
    Q. Well----
    Q. Patsy and I--[inaudible]--on today. [Inaudible]
    The President. You're a serve and volley guy. I can see it a mile 
away.
    Q. I'm working on my walk. [Inaudible] He's probably going to wear 
out pretty quick.
    The President. You've got the big serve and volley.
    Q. I can cover a lot--[inaudible].

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    The President. I bet you can. Like my brother, Marvin, he's a big 
serve and volley man.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Yes. He's a good player.
    Q. He is. He was able to get great partners, like Chris Evert's 
brother and people like that.
    Q. You know, there's a lot of pros who have moved into McLean, like 
Jana Novotna--[inaudible].
    The President. Really? The territory is beginning to change. See how 
these rocks were right up here on the surface? But what ends up 
happening is that over time, millions of years, rocky roads created 
these canyons we're going into. They're pretty sparse country where 
you've got your rocks--[inaudible].
    Q. So this is one of the canyons we're going into?
    The President. This is the river bottom. We have 3\1/2\ miles of 
river, stream. And the canyons feed into the bottoms here. But the 
waterfall--see the point right there? That's the headwaters of the 
waterfall, and we're going to go down--[inaudible].
    Q. Is this the same river that feeds--[inaudible]?
    The President. Yes. No, let's see. You know, I don't know. The 
middle fork of the Bosque--I think--I don't think so. I'm not sure. You 
know, it might. It might. You may be right. [Inaudible]--falls must be 
running pretty good right now.
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Does it look pretty?
    Q. Yes, it's beautiful.
    The President. We're going to a different part of the world now.
    Q. I'm just grateful you didn't make us clear any brush. [Laughter]
    The President. Well, you'd like it. It's good exercise. I'll show 
you something interesting here. See how that water is coming out of 
those rocks? See it?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. All the aquifers are charged now because of the rain.
    Q. [Inaudible]--Hill?
    The President. No, no. [Inaudible]--Hill is back over there. We're 
not going to be able to get to it because the water across the crossing.
    Q. Oh, really?
    The President. Yes. [Inaudible]--you'd just get soaked.
    Q. Can you get just as good a workout walking like this, as running?
    The President. I think you can.
    Q. I think you can, too. [Laughter]
    Q. You're working out with two. [Laughter]
    The President. But you've got to move. I kind of use it as a warmer-
upper. It's good for you.
    We're going to go right up here. Wait until you see this place I'm 
going to take you. It's cool.
    Q. [Inaudible] [Laughter]
    The President. That was Barney. It's a different world down here.
    Q. It's beautiful.
    The President. We're headed right up in there. These are called 
China berries. See the little berry at the end there? We've got up here 
in this canyon you'll have ash, walnut, different kind of oaks. I've 
become a guy who really likes trees. [Laughter]
    Q. Crash course, right?
    The President. Well, you can really get to appreciate them. Now this 
in here you couldn't--before we got in here you couldn't see the 
contours of this little canyon. And it was really hard to walk in here. 
We got in here and cleaned out a lot of the undergrowth, a lot of the 
dead trees that--see all those trees in there? They were all like that 
in here, way up in here.
    What I want to do is open this up so you can see the contours of 
this little canyon in here.
    Q. Do you have people working here when you're not here, too?
    The President. No, we do it ourselves, and we built all this that 
we're heading into.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Yes.
    Q. There's just not that much brush to clear at the White House. 
[Laughter]
    The President. Well, they got people clearing it there. You could 
not move in here. I mean, we couldn't--a few years ago, you had to crawl 
through all these rocks to get up in here.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

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    The President. [Inaudible]--enough rain, it may have created to 
charge those aquifers enough to withstand the heat.
    Q. What kind of stone is this?
    The President. Limestone. Real soft limestone.
    Q. ----did you know right away when you bought the ranch, or did you 
discover it on----
    The President. No. We had to clear this out. I mean, you could not 
come up here.
    Q. But you brought people down here, right? Like a----
    The President. [Inaudible]--in here. I didn't see this part of the 
ranch when----
    Q. So it was a surprise?
    The President. Yes, it was a surprise.
    Q. It's a nice surprise.
    The President. This is where Putin came. Jiang Zemin did not come 
down here, but Vladimir Putin did.
    Q. That's cool.
    The President. See the cedar? That grows right on the ledge.
    Q. It's on the rocks.
    Q. Has some of it already started to grow back----
    The President. We didn't put it up there.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. We don't clear up top. We clear down here when they 
go against these big--we clear the young.
    Q. Right.
    Q. So how wide a--[inaudible]--that you cleared right----
    The President. Yes, this is all--you could not walk in here, 
literally. It was overgrown. There were seven of them like this, with 
different cuts to them.
    Q. All of them different.
    Q. Did you do it yourself, or did----
    The President. Oh, I do it myself.
    Q. Really?
    The President. Yes. It's part of the fun to be outside working. I 
really enjoy it. There's the great outdoors, and you're supposed to be 
in it. [Laughter]
    Q. Right.
    The President. All right. Retreat.
    Q. Watch those rocks, they're slick.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. I've seen fox in here.
    Q. [Inaudible]--Barney?
    The President. No, he had some problems. I was afraid Barney would 
come out with--[inaudible].
    Q. Red fox or gray fox?
    The President. Gray fox. Red fox are what?
    Q. We have red fox around Washington.
    The President. Yes.
    Q. You just can't imagine that these kind of little nooks exist out 
here.
    The President. No, isn't it amazing? We had--we brought some friends 
out here. And one of the guys driving said, ``I can't imagine why 
President Bush bought this place. This is some of the worst country in 
Texas.'' But what he didn't realize is that the fingers of the Hill 
Country, which is where you all have been, south of Austin, extend up 
here. If you look on a map, you'll see the topography on the map shows 
this is some unique country.
    Q. How much did you check out the land before you bought it?
    The President. I went all over it. But I didn't, you know----
    Q. You didn't find everything.
    The President. Yes. I didn't crawl up in there. And we saw enough to 
know that there was some pretty unique relief.
    Q. Do you really spend the largest percentage of your time, outside 
of working, out here?
    The President. Absolutely. I'm either--my typical day is I will work 
from about 7 a.m. until 10 a.m., and then will come out and we'll cut 
cedar or fool around, you know, repair something.
    Q. Right.
    The President. And then we'll eat lunch about 12:30 p.m. And 
generally make phone calls then or answer mail or do whatever, and then 
get back out about 4 p.m. and fish. I love to fish.
    Q. Now, when you're stocking your own pond, do you still get credit 
for catching? [Laughter]
    The President. Oh, yes, absolutely. The only time you don't get 
credit is when the Secret Service--right here, take a right--the Secret 
Service frogman puts it on for you. You see the snorkel.
    Q. If you can't see him, then it's totally----

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    The President. Right. [Laughter]
    The last time we had the crew here, it was up to the top of that 
canyon, remember? We were clearing. There's another canyon that goes up 
in there. And here's the--here's where they end.
    Q. This is the one we walked up.
    The President. Right.
    Q. With all the brambles and thorns.
    The President. Right. That's right.
    Q. Do you fish from the shore or do you----
    The President. I've got a little boat in there.
    Q. Bait fish or with lures?
    The President. No, fish with lures. The jig is particularly good 
during the winter. These fish are very lethargic, real slow.
    This is about a two-thirds mile pasture here. We're paralleling now 
the middle fork of the Bosque River. You'll see it when we get up here.
    Q. What are these trees?
    The President. Those are cedar elms. They're really pretty in the 
spring.
    Q. Do they flower?
    The President. No, they--they're in leaves. But they're beautiful 
skirts.
    Q. Do you ever sleep in?
    The President. No.
    Q. Never? [Inaudible]
    The President. [Inaudible]
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. No. I was probably asleep at 10 p.m. [Laughter]
    Q. Couldn't even see the ball drop on the East Coast.
    The President. In Bermuda.
    Q. [Inaudible] [Laughter]
    The President. I was looking for that ball dropping in London. 
[Laughter]
    Q. [Inaudible]--good enough for you.
    The President. That's right.
    Put him in a Gator. The pickup is better.
    Let me show you something that's really pretty here. When the sun 
sets--west is that way; east is this way--and when the sun sets, the 
cliffs over here, which you'll see in a minute, just completely glow.
    A big cedar elm here.
    Q. There's something running up here. Is this a white-tail or----
    The President. Yes. Did you see it?
    Q. Yes, I saw it.
    The President. Yes, a white-tail deer.
    Q. I grew up in Atlanta. I don't know my--[laughter].
    The President. This is very interesting. There is a relatively tame 
white-tail that has been hanging around here. I saw it the last time I 
walked in here. And it just kind of paralleled--see the cliffs over 
there. That's not on our property. It's right on the other side of the 
river.
    At the end of this pasture, there's a turkey roost up in this area.
    Q. Do you envision a time where you'd live here all the time, or 
will it always be a kind of retreat?
    The President. I think this will be more--that's an interesting 
conversation Laura and I have had. In my view, this will be the primary 
residence, and we'd have a townhouse somewhere else. I think her view 
might be slightly different--[laughter]--in which case, her view will 
prevail.
    Q. Right. [Inaudible]--as much pressure as you do.
    The President. But we do love it out here. One of the reasons we 
picked it--that cedar is a red cedar. Isn't that beautiful? It's unique, 
different from these other trees.
    But this is halfway between Dallas and Austin. Most of our friends 
are in Dallas and Austin, so it's very convenient for our buddies to 
come and visit and----
    Q. Well, you guys aren't often here by yourselves?
    The President. What?
    Q. You're not often here alone, are you?
    The President. No, we're really not. We had--our friends from 
Lubbock came the day after we got here. And our friends from Austin came 
last night. It's a good chance for us to catch up with our buddies, and 
we really like our friends. Yes, it's wonderful.
    See, up in there? For example, I haven't explored up in there yet. 
See the makings of an interesting rock formation? I may clear that out 
some so you can see it better. Haven't made up my mind. In the spring, 
this is just emerald green.
    Q. Greener than usual this August.
    The President. Pardon me?
    Q. It was greener than usual this August.
    The President. Yes, because of the rain.

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    Q. Mr. President, would you mind terribly if we would just let the 
truck pass so they can get some walking shots?
    The President. Not at all.
    Heidi, what are you doing?
    Q. I want to catch up to you. [Laughter]
    Q. Quite a little motorcade back there.
    Q. Do you ever--[inaudible]?
    Q. A lovely walk in the woods--[inaudible]--with motorized vehicles.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Yes, you do. Exactly. [Inaudible]
    Q. If I stub my toe, what will I do? [Laughter] [Inaudible]
    The President. It's easy to get a sense of the kind of the relief.
    It's about 90 foot in here, from the highest to the lowest point. 
Pretty good relief.
    Q. This part I remember, because you drove us down to here.
    The President. But you wouldn't ever envision this driving into the 
ranch.
    Q. Right.
    The President. That's what I like about it.
    Q. Were these roads here, or did you build these?
    The President. I built this one. The definition--I'll show you the 
definition of a road. The definition of a road is tire ruts on a ranch. 
And one of the things I assured Ron [Ron Fournier, Associated Press] is 
that we would build a road so it would become easily accessible. This 
is--I did not build this road. This is a road that the Engelbrechts 
built. But you have to maintain these things, obviously. The water will 
erode them out.
    The deer lay down in here. They feel protected. And then the turkey 
were right up here.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. Make news, will you.
    This is the river right here. The middle fork of the Bosque. And 
right across the way is our neighbor. These are bur oaks. See these huge 
trees there? Aren't they spectacular?
    Q. These guys must create some nice fall foliage.
    The President. You get pretty good color here.
    See the tree with the leaves still on it?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. That's called a bois d'arc, and it's a real hard wood 
that they claim the Indians used for their--[inaudible]. They produce a 
big, green apple. That's a big--[inaudible].
    Q. So this is the line right here?
    The President. No, this is just--[inaudible].
    It's the middle fork of the Bosque. We have a mile and a half--
you'll see a creek down here.
    Q. Do you fish the river?
    The President. No, no. This river is real gravelly. And most of the 
time, you won't see water running on the surface. It runs underneath the 
gravel. You know, I hike up and down this river a lot, and you might run 
into--in August, you might run into a pool of water, but that's about 
it.
    Q. So we're 2.5 miles from what, the house?
    The President. Yes. We have walked about 2 miles.
    Q. A little exercise in the morning.
    The President. Absolutely.
    Q. Is everybody happy?
    The President. See the--that's real gravelly and shallow.
    Q. Do you periodically have rocks spread----
    The President. Yes, caliche, right. I did. We'll hike up out of here 
by a caliche pit. It's kind of a salty limestone that's used for road--
[inaudible].
    Q. You've got it right here on the ranch?
    The President. Yes. See out here, this is where most of the--
[inaudible]. And the creek that we're fixing to come up here, it's 
really hard to cross. So I built a low-water crossing. So you'll see a 
low-water crossing.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Well, ``low water'' means it's not a dam. In other 
words----
    Q. Like a ford?
    The President. Yes. The water runs continuously.
    Q. [Inaudible]--are never done, right?
    The President. These hardwoods are taking away a source of water. On 
a nice, relatively calm day, we'll come down and burn.
    Q. These cliffs are all----

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    The President. Yes, they do. We're paralleling them. We'll see some 
more dramatic--it's about 3\1/2\ miles all throughout here in the 
bottoms. Engelbrecht said he has seen water coming out of the creek and 
the river all across here, which is why you would never build down here.
    Those cedars, small cedars, were crowded up against the hardwoods 
and competing with the hardwoods for the water.
    Some of these are pecans out here. Great big pecan trees. The pecan 
is a fruit-bearing tree. We didn't have a very good pecan crop this 
year.
    See the white tree over there, the white bark? That's a sycamore, 
and they grow in the river.
    Q. You're quite the tree man.
    The President. I am a tree man.
    Q. The Audubon Society----
    The President. Good for you. Opens up your--when I say every day is 
Earth Day if you own your land, you're beginning to understand what I 
mean.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    Q. Skinny bits and saplings?
    The President. Those are little oaks and ashes. The sturdy will 
emerge. Here's where we worked yesterday. See how we opened up--that's 
our country over there on the right, on the other side of the creek. You 
couldn't see that. We opened it up, and now you have a sense of--that 
it's a part of our property.
    Q. When you find all these little----
    The President. You all right? You okay?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Medical Gator. [Laughter]
    The numbers are the designated points. So, for example, so-and-so is 
at 50, they look on the map and find out where 50 is.
    Q. It's not for recreation?
    The President. No, the recreation part is the mileage.
    Q. What are the white patches over there?
    The President. That's where we burned.
    Q. Burned.
    The President. We will have seen about half the ranch. You can't 
cross--you'll see down here--I want you to see this river that it's just 
too wet to go across.
    Q. Is this, with the marker, is this where you run?
    The President. This is one of the trails. Some of these--we've got--
this is not a trail marker, this is not a running-trail marker here; 
it's an intersection.
    This is now the Rainy Creek. Where the Rainy Creek hits the middle 
fork of the Bosque is on our property, right up about a quarter mile 
that way. And now the Rainy Creek defines our northern border. And 
you'll see it up here.
    And there's five crossing points, and here is one of them.
    Q. Have we been on the eastern half of the ranch?
    The President. You have been on the eastern half of the ranch. 
You've seen--yes, left. I don't think we want to try to cross here, but 
we can stop here for a minute. I want you to see this.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. And this will run about a mile and a half this way 
and then go a mile and a half----
    Q. This is not a fork where you fish?
    The President. Actually, I put some fish in here farther up, where 
there's a big, deep pool. And it's fun to come down here and fly fish. 
There's not a lot of fish--[inaudible].
    All right, we'll hike it up this hill here.
    Load up. Load up. Man, you better load up. We're going up the hill.
    Q. Oh, I'm good, sir.
    The President. You can handle it? Holly, get in here. Now, can you 
handle it?
    Q. I can, apparently. I've got to figure out how. Something to keep 
me occupied. [Laughter]
    The President. Exactly. You can read the instruction manual for a 
week. [Laughter]
    Q. That's what I did. That was one night. [Inaudible]
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. I finally recovered. These are all lacy oaks in here 
that you couldn't see. The cedars were crowding them out. These are 
going to be a beautiful stand of lacy oaks.
    Q. We'll have to give you a nickname--[inaudible].
    The President. Yes, exactly. See the cliffs over there?
    Q. Yes.

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    The President. Pretty dramatic stuff.
    Q. Looks like good hiking in there.
    The President. That's great hiking. There's a little hidden valley 
that you can go over there and--[inaudible]. Super Stretch, caliche.
    Q. You bulldoze it right out of there?
    The President. Yes. This is a good one to run, in August.
    Q. Ninety-eight degrees.
    The President. Hundred-degree for the run.
    Q. Reminds me too much of home. I couldn't do that.
    The President. That's right. But 90 degrees.
    Q. Wow, look at the hawk.
    The President. Those are big buzzards.
    Q. Turkey buzzards?
    The President. Yes, turkey buzzards. They're hoping one of us drops. 
[Laughter]
    Q. [Inaudible]--reporters.
    The President. It's good for you.
    Q. We're not cold anymore.
    The President. You will be, in a minute.
    Q. Oh, because of the wind?
    The President. Well, we're getting up top here.
    Q. Does the little hill have a name?
    The President. No, this one doesn't. But the next one over is Balkan 
Hill, for Condi Rice, who gave us the history of the Balkans in the 
middle of a 4-mile walk. I was impressed that she didn't break sentence 
during the--full up the hill.
    Q. [Inaudible]--Bosnia and Herzegovina going up the hill here.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. See the area, right in there?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. That's a little hidden----
    Q. Have you been working back there?
    The President. We did, last year. You can walk up.
    Q. So with all this working, do you ever sit down and----
    The President. Relax?
    Q. Enjoy it and relax?
    The President. Yes, sometimes.
    Q. This is limestone, sir?
    The President. Yes. See how porous it is. There was a big dead tree 
right here, which we cut off, opened this up. We'll see--we're heading 
parallel to this little river, and I'll show you the headwaters of the 
river. It's spectacular.
    Can you envision me sitting here, on the rock, writing some poetry?
    Q. Yes.
    Q. That's what I see pretty much--writing the State of the Union--
[laughter]--longhand.
    The President. That's the state of my union.
    Q. Speaking of----
    The President. Yes, we're working on it.
    Q. Anything you want to sneak preview?
    The President. I think all you've got to do is call the White House 
staffers. They'll tell you, evidently. [Laughter] You know what I mean.
    Q. My fellow Americans.
    Q. That's what makes America great.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    Q. Is that your property, or is that the other----
    The President. That's us. Go straight where those agents are down 
there. Those are agents down there--that you're not supposed to see.
    Q. Yes. [Laughter]
    The President. This is a great place to sit down and think. 
[Inaudible]

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. Be careful up here, seriously.
    On a nice evening, you've got a little bit of a western view and--
[inaudible]. We've got deer--[inaudible].
    Q. Look out, those first steps are moving.
    Q. Is it called--[inaudible]--Rainy Creek?
    The President. Yes.
    Q. Pretty wide for a creek.
    The President. Yes, it is, but there's a lot of water right now. But 
it won't be wide in a while.
    Q. How high up are we?
    The President. You know, I don't know how much higher--I'd say 90 
feet.
    All right, I just wanted you to see this. Holly?
    Q. Yes?

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    The President. Quit calling me Jeb. [Laughter]

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. Nice story. The--[inaudible]--and I went for a run in 
the campaign, summer of 2000. And we go in the pond, the river pool down 
there, the creek. And the next day we killed a water moccasin--
cottonmouth. That's the last time we jumped in there. [Laughter]
    See the cardinals?
    Q. Yes.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. [Inaudible]--waterfall down there. I don't know what 
they are.
    Q. Isn't it pretty down here?
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. I don't know what they are, strawberries?
    Q. Something like that. I don't know.
    The President. [Inaudible]--wild clover. Anyway, this thing kind of 
meanders down. And there's a--well, you can see where it drops off. 
There's a waterfall down there. You've seen two of the seven canyons. 
And this is the one that goes up--remember that crossing where we just--
this goes all the way down there and drains into the creek right at the 
crossing. Pretty special.
    Q. Is there water--[inaudible]--down there?
    The President. I don't know what that is. I had never seen it.
    Q. [Inaudible]

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. Really? You've become kind of a matinee idol?
    Q. That goes without saying.
    The President. Yes, we took a vote. We'll keep him. They say he's 
big; he's big out there in the hinterland. Holly, do you want in?
    Q. I think I'm okay, thank you.
    The President. We've got about a half mile to go.
    Q. A half mile? Maybe I'll walk.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. A lot of water coming out that creek.
    Q. Good springs anywhere, sir?
    The President. Well, there's--yes, they do. And a lot of the----
    Q. Come out of the aquifers?
    The President. Just coming out of the rock, like that one I showed 
you when we first went down into the bottoms there. That's what a spring 
is like.
    This is the back side of the dam. These are all big cedar elms 
here--cedar elm grove.
    Q. Do you guys like to cook at all?
    The President. Yes.
    Q. Do you?
    The President. Mine?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Eating. You said, ``Do you guys, right?'' Oh, you 
said, ``You guys like to cook.'' [Laughter] I'm pretty good with 
burgers, egg salad.
    Q. Are you a fancy coffee guy, or a regular----
    The President. Fancy. I don't even know what we drink. I just say 
this, the stronger the better.
    Here's the back side of the house.
    Q. In all this planning, how did you pick where you wanted the 
house?
    The President. We had a--the architect, David Heymann, from the 
University of Texas came out here. And Laura--the decision--[inaudible]. 
And then David came out here--[inaudible].
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. Winds, the sun, and the big live oak.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. No, no. And one of the things you'll see if they have 
a Texas phenomenon, it's called--[inaudible]--capture the--[inaudible]--
breezes. And in the summer, you want to be able to get as much of the 
breeze as you can. So the house is up high. We've got the house divided 
by screened porches the wind blows through.
    Q. I didn't know you had a treehouse. [Laughter]
    The President. Yes, look at it. Built that for the grandkids that 
don't exist. Some of the fellows go up there with some high-powered 
binocs and high-powered weaponry.
    Q. Yes, right.
    The President. Here's another way down. There's, let's see, five 
entries with the Rainy

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Creek area. You know, I'd say we've been through a third of this, about 
half.
    Q. So how big is the guesthouse? Is it just for one, two people?
    The President. No, no, two beds, two baths, and a little sitting 
room. Then we've got the--you remember the Governor's house?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. That's three bedrooms, two baths. That's where Condi 
will stay tonight. So we've got--then Barbara and Jenna's room are at 
the end of the house. A lot of time they're not here. We've got one, 
two, three, four--eight guestrooms, if Barbara and Jenna aren't here.
    Q. So it's plenty big.
    The President. Yes. The Governor's house, is what we call that, is 
where the guy from whom we bought the property lived. Then we fixed it 
up.
    Q. Yes, I remember. We had a little lunch, remember that, in 2000?
    The President. That's right.
    Q. That's where you were with Tommy Franks when you talked to us 
last year.
    The President. That's exactly right.
    Q. I remember Colin Powell was--[inaudible].
    The President. That's exactly right.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. No, that was for the announcement, in the high 
school.
    Q. What was that?
    The President. That was for the announcement of him being Secretary 
of State.
    Q. No, no, you know when you came out with Powell was--he was 
still--it was right after election night when we were into the recount. 
That's the first time you brought--and the Cheneys were here.
    The President. Was he there?
    Q. He was.
    Q. He was sitting at the table.
    The President. Oh, that's right. We talked about the cows the day we 
announced him as Secretary of State. It was very funny.
    Q. This is the back of the house here?
    The President. Back of the house. This is the northern view.
    Q. It's beautiful.
    The President. Thanks. This is native rock. The house is contoured 
so that when it rains, it drains into a 40,000-gallon cistern. We can 
recycle, watering all the grasses and trees around here.
    Q. Now, are these Mrs. Bush's grasses----
    The President. Not yet.
    Q. So that's where you go to write the State of the Union. 
[Inaudible]
    The President. Yes.
    Q. Oh, I see, and that's the----
    The President. That's the famous swimming pool----
    Q. Oh, that's right.
    The President. Which I dubbed the ``whining pool,'' but--
[inaudible]. [Laughter]
    Q. Come on.
    The President. No, I'm glad we got it. There was a lot of cajoling 
going on.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    The President. That's exactly right.
    That's one of those things that lasts about three sets. Oh, well, 
we're tired of tennis.
    Q. It's too hot.
    The President. Too hot.

[At this point, the tour continued.]

    The President. See how that little cedar is growing up from 
underneath there?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. That will be gone by--[inaudible]. When we got out 
here to haul these trees--[inaudible]. They say in Texas that if you 
were to--if you were to clear land of cedars, you'd increase the water 
supply by 30 percent. They're real water hogs.
    Q. [Inaudible]
    There is a--they say a species called the--[inaudible]--uses the old 
cedar to build nests. So we maintain the old cedar.
    Q. Have you ever seen one?
    The President. Well, this county doesn't have them, but I'm leaving 
them anyway. See the big oaks in here? This country is a good part of 
the ranch.
    Here's a little tank that we--[inaudible]--stock with bass.
    Q. So you've got the roads numbered here, right?
    The President. Well, these are intersections.
    Q. I thought there was. [Laughter]
    The President. No, no.
    Q. Go down to 63 and 34 and get me a----

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    The President. Exactly. [Laughter]
    Q. I'm warm now.
    The President. Good.
    That's a really interesting stand of hardwoods up in there, about 80 
acres of them. Great country through here. At the very end of it is the 
type of canyons we've cleared out. I'd take you back there, but it's 
really too wet.
    Q. Do you hunt here?
    The President. I don't, but some of them do. They come up here--I 
let them come up here and take deer off and maintain the proper buck-to-
doe ratio. You overpopulate, you get--[inaudible]. I don't let them 
shoot the turkeys.
    Q. You love the turkeys.
    The President. But I do let them shoot the dove. I've shot dove 
here. The dove season starts Labor Day, and generally we're not here.
    Q. Sir, will you let us do a little bit of this before we go in the 
house?
    The President. Yes. [Inaudible]--don't watch TV. There's my man, 
Barney, standing guard. [Laughter] Do you want to do it right here?
    Q. We'll get the camera wherever you want.

Note: The President spoke at 8:51 a.m. at the Bush Ranch. In his 
remarks, he referred to Assistant Press Secretary Reed Dickens; ranch 
foreman Kenneth Engelbrecht; Counsel to the President Alberto R. 
Gonzales; President Vladimir Putin of Russia; President Jiang Zemin of 
China; and Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida. Deputy Press Secretary Claire 
Buchan referred to White House Staff Secretary Harriet Miers. Reporters 
referred to Maxwell Gregory, son of David Gregory, NBC News; Senator 
John Edwards of North Carolina; John Bridgeland, Executive Director, USA 
Freedom Corps; and professional tennis players Chris Evert and Jana 
Novotna. A tape was not available for verification of the content of 
these remarks.