[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 38, Number 34 (Monday, August 26, 2002)]
[Pages 1390-1394]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks Following a Meeting With the Secretary of Defense and an 
Exchange With Reporters in Crawford, Texas

August 21, 2002

Defense Budget and Planning

    The President. Well, good morning. I'm pleased to welcome Secretary 
Rumsfeld and General Myers and members of his staff here to Crawford to 
discuss some important issues, issues that relate to the security of the 
American people.
    We spent time talking about missile defense. The progress that our 
Nation is making after our withdrawal from the ABM Treaty

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has been--is impressive, that the Secretary and his planners are 
thinking through how best to spend the R&D money so that we can better 
protect ourselves and our friends and allies from the true threats of 
the 21st century.
    And I appreciated the briefing, Mr. Secretary. I thought it was 
illuminating. The American people need to know that the Pentagon is 
forward thinking, is aggressive in its approach to developing systems 
that will more likely be able to respond to what we're going to face.
    Secondly, we talked about contingency plans. One of the jobs of the 
military is to constantly be thinking about how to respond to an issue 
should it arise. And I appreciate so very much the Secretary's thinking 
on that.
    And thirdly, we talked about transformation issues, how best to make 
the military conform to the threats we face, other than missile defense. 
What weapons systems, what strategy should be employed? How do we make 
our services more joint in nature?
    The Secretary rightly pointed out that, in the past, the service 
chiefs would come with their particular wish list, but there wasn't much 
coordination as to whether or not a weapons system in the Navy could--
would work jointly with the Army, for example. And Secretary Rumsfeld 
and his team have done a really good job of beginning to shape the 
philosophy--a new philosophy in the Pentagon.
    And it was right here in the Governor's House--we call this the 
Governor's House, by the way--was where he first briefed me on 
transformation plans nearly a year ago, and he's back to bring me up to 
date on the progress that the Pentagon is making. And we're making good 
progress.
    The American people need to know that our Secretary of Defense is 
willing to think differently about how to structure our military and is 
also willing to work with the Joint Staff, people in the Pentagon, to 
get them to think differently. It's not an easy task, but he can be a 
stubborn guy. But he's got a vision that is positive for the country.
    Mr. Secretary, would you like to say a few words? And then we might 
answer questions. I want to learn how you answer questions. They tell me 
you're quite good at it. [Laughter]
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Well, thank you, Mr. President. We were here 
last year about this time, had an opportunity to discuss with you and 
get some guidance as to the period ahead. We've benefited from that, and 
we're back to give you a good report and to gain additional guidance for 
the period coming forward.
    We're, of course, working on the budget bill for the 2004 to 2009 
period, even though the 2003 budget is still pending before the 
Congress. So we have to get that process going. And I felt that we had a 
very good chance today to discuss missile defense and the important 
programs that we have going forward for transformation.
    The cold, hard fact is that the United States lives in a very 
different security environment today in this 21st century than we did 
prior to September 11th. We have the task in the Department of Defense 
of seeing that we're able to provide the kind of defense capabilities 
and deterrents that will enable our country to contribute to peace and 
stability and to protect the American people.
    And that means we have got to shift this Department and see that we 
have the kinds of capabilities that fit for the challenges and the 
threats that exist in the 21st century. It's a big job, but we've got a 
good team of people, and we're working hard on it, and we thank you for 
your support.
    The President. You're probably wondering why the Secretary is 
wearing a suit. Would you like to explain why you're wearing a suit?
    Secretary Rumsfeld. I don't have any sport clothes. [Laughter]
    The President. He's going to Fort Hood to talk to our troops, to 
thank them for their service, and Mr. Secretary, I appreciate--yes?

Regime Change in Iraq

    Q. Sir, after you've studied today the military capabilities of the 
United States and looking ahead to future threats, one thing that has to 
factor in is the growing number of U.S. allies, Russia, Germany, 
Bahrain, now Canada, who say that if you go to war with Saddam, you're 
going to go alone.

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    Does the American military have the capability to prosecute this war 
alone?
    The President. Well, look, if you're asking--are you asking about 
Iraq? The subject didn't come up in this meeting.
    But having said that, we take all threats seriously, and we will 
continue to consult with our friends and allies.
    I know there is this kind of intense speculation that seems to be 
going on, a kind of a--I don't know how you would describe it. It's kind 
of a churning----
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Frenzy.
    The President. Frenzy is how the Secretary would describe it. But 
the subject didn't come up.
    We will obviously continue to consult with our friends and allies. 
Your question makes certain assumptions that may or may not be true. But 
we will continue to talk with our--with the people concerned about peace 
and how to secure the peace, and those are needed consultations.
    Not only will we consult with friends and allies, we'll consult with 
Members of Congress.
    Yes, Terry [Terry Moran, ABC News].
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Could I just add a comment there, Mr. President? 
I think it's worth noting on that particular subject that the President 
of the United States and the Secretary of State and our country has put 
together a coalition that stretches across the entire globe that is 
addressing the problem of the global war on terrorism. It is 80 or 90 
countries. There are 37 or 38 down in Tampa, Florida, with liaison 
officers. We have, at any given time, 18, 20, a couple dozen of 
countries involved in Afghanistan, participating.
    The coalition that is working on the global war on terrorism that 
the President and the Secretary have put together is broad; it's deep; 
it's impressive; and it is in fact what is helping the forward progress 
that we're achieving, the traction we're getting with respect to dealing 
with the terrible--terribly difficult problem of global terrorist 
networks.
    Q. Still, many of those are now saying that they won't take the war 
against terror into Iraq. What do you do about that?
    Secretary Rumsfeld. The President has not asked them to.
    Q. Sir, if I could follow up?
    The President. Please do.
    Q. General Franks today----
    The President. We're in the giving spirit here.
    Q. Thank you, sir.
    The President. General Franks today?
    Q. He has said that he is drawing up war plans to provide you with 
credible options. Now, should the American people conclude from that 
that you're reaching some critical point, that a decision is imminent?
    The President. First of all, in the midst of the frenzy--
[laughter]--I want you to note that General Franks is not here. General 
Franks is doing his job. And one of the jobs that the Secretary of 
Defense has tasked to members of his general staff is to prepare for all 
contingencies, whether it be in the particular country that you seem to 
be riveted on, or any other country, for that matter.
    We face a--the world is not stable. The world changes. There are--
this terrorist network is global in nature, and they may strike 
anywhere. And therefore, we've got to be prepared to use our military 
and all the other assets at our disposal in a way to keep the peace. So 
General Franks is doing what the Secretary has asked.
    Would you like to comment on that?
    Secretary Rumsfeld. I would. As the President indicated, one of the 
things we discussed here today was the contingency planning guidance 
that he signed. I then meet with all of the combatant commanders for 
every area of responsibility across the globe. I do it on a regular 
basis. We go over all the conceivable contingencies that could occur.
    So General Franks, as well as every other combatant commander--I 
met, I think, within the last 30 days, with at least three of them on 
various types of contingency plans in totally different parts of the 
world. That's my job. That's their job, is to see that we have the 
ability to protect the American people and deal effectively on behalf of 
our friends and our allies and our deployed forces.
    So it is their task to work with me and ultimately with the 
President as the chain of command goes from the Commander in Chief, the 
President of the United States, to me, to the combatant commanders. And

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they're doing exactly what I've asked them to do and what the President 
has asked me to do.
    The President. Heidi, Bloomberg [Heidi Przybyla, Bloomberg News].

National Missile Defense

    Q. Now that you're out of the ABM Treaty, can you talk a little bit 
about what type of testing you'd like to do on missile defense, what 
kind of testing we'll see soon?
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Sure, we're doing it all the time. We're testing 
a layered program which involves a terminal phase, mid-course, as well 
as boost phase. It is a--a program that will become layered. It will 
start out as a testbed and then evolve over time.
    We've had some very good successes with both short-range missiles as 
well as longer range missiles, intercepting them. And I feel very good 
about the program. General Ron Kadish is doing a superb job for the 
country.
    Q. When do you expect there will be the kind of missile defense 
shield that you'd like to see?
    Secretary Rumsfeld. You see, that's not knowable. And first of all, 
the word ``shield,'' we don't use. The program that we're designing--I 
thought you said ``shield.'' Oh, you didn't?
    Q. No.
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Excuse me.
    Q. Just kidding. [Laughter]
    Secretary Rumsfeld. The wind----
    The President. You thought ``shield.''
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Yes, I thought ``shield.''
    We think of it as a capability that would be broad and be able to 
deal with relatively limited numbers of ballistic missiles and also 
shorter range--medium and shorter range missiles. And the shorter range 
defenses are more advanced.
    In terms of how long it would take, it's something that really is 
not knowable, because you're in the research, development, and testing 
phase. And as that continues to succeed and be--to work out, we then 
will put things in place, and they will evolve over a period of time.
    The President. Yes, I think the other thing that you should note is 
that the Secretary is--and his team are briefing our friends and allies 
about progress we're making. That's one of the things I said when we 
withdrew from the ABM Treaty, that we would consult with our friends and 
allies, and we are. And I appreciate those consultations. I think it's 
very important for people to see what is possible as we--as we make the 
world more secure through our research and development.
    Yes.

Abu Nidal

    Q. Mr. President, Abu Nidal--can we have your reaction to reports of 
his death?
    The President. Well, first of all, no terrorist can hide forever. 
Secondly, it's--I found it interesting that they said he committed 
suicide with four bullet heads--four bullet wounds to the head. And so 
I'm not exactly sure how he died. We just have to wait and make sure, in 
fact, he did die.
    But the point is, is that when the world puts their mind to fighting 
terror, we can rout out these terrorists. And some of them will be able 
to hide longer than others, and some of them will be able to survive 
longer than others. But this country will continue to lead the coalition 
that the Secretary of Defense talked about, to hunt them down one by 
one. And that's a positive development.
    Adam [Adam Entous, Reuters], don't worry about the suit here on the 
Ranch.
    Q. Sorry, I saw the Secretary----
    Secretary Rumsfeld. You look good.

Regime Change in Iraq

    Q. I borrowed your clothes. [Laughter]
    Considering how much discussion has been going on recently about 
Saddam, do you feel a need to get out there and make a case for toppling 
him? And if so, do you feel a need to do it before Election Day?
    The President. Well, Adam, what I need to do is to continue to, as 
we call it, consult with people who share our interests to make the 
world a safer place, and I will do so. The American people know my 
position, and that is, is that regime change is in the interests of the 
world. How we achieve that is a matter of consultation and 
deliberative--deliberation, which I do; I'm a deliberate person.
    I say it in my speeches, which you fortunately don't have to cover, 
that I'm a patient

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man. And when I say I'm a patient man, I mean I'm a patient man, and 
that we will look at all options, and we will consider all technologies 
available to us and diplomacy and intelligence.
    But one thing is for certain, is that this administration agrees 
that Saddam Hussein is a threat, and he will be--that's a part of our 
thinking. And that hasn't changed.
    Nothing he has done has convinced me--I'm confident the Secretary of 
Defense--that he is the kind of fellow that is willing to forgo weapons 
of mass destruction, is willing to be a peaceful neighbor, that is--will 
honor the people--the Iraqi people of all stripes, will--values human 
life. He hasn't convinced me, nor has he convinced my administration.
    Listen, thank you all for coming out on a windy, hot day.
    Fine looking boots, Martha [Martha Brant, Newsweek].
    Q. Thank you, sir. [Laughter]
    The President. I expect to see you barrel riding here at the 
Crawford----
    Q. Waiting for the invitation.
    The President. That's good.
    Thank you all very much. See you tomorrow on the plane.

Note: The President spoke at 11:30 a.m. outside the Governor's House at 
the Bush Ranch. In his remarks, he referred to President Saddam Hussein 
of Iraq. A reporter referred to Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal, who was 
reportedly found dead in his apartment in Baghdad, Iraq, on August 19.