[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 35, Number 19 (Monday, May 17, 1999)]
[Pages 861-867]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]
<R04>
Remarks in a Roundtable Discussion on New Markets in Atlanta, Georgia
May 11, 1999
The President. Thank you. Well, first, Mayor Campbell, Mayor
Jackson, Mayor Young, my friends, it's wonderful to be back in Atlanta.
I will be very brief because I want to spend most of my time listening
to our panelists, but I'd like to try to put what the
[[Page 862]]
mayor has said into the perspective of what we're trying to do with our
administration. And I have with me our Housing and Urban Development
Secretary Andrew Cuomo; our Small Business Administrator Aida Alvarez;
my Deputy Chief of Staff Maria Echaveste. We had other members of the
Cabinet with us earlier today, along with my National Economic Adviser,
Gene Sperling, who helped to put this whole event today together.
But let me try to tell you why I'm here. When I became President in
1993 I had traveled around America and I had seen with my own eyes for
many years, as a Governor and then as a candidate for President, people
able to start businesses in places that had high unemployment or low
income or other economic problems, if they just had access to capital
and they had the right technical support, marketing support, loan
guarantees or whatever.
So when we started our administration we put into our first economic
plan this whole idea of empowerment zones which would give tax credits,
loan guarantees, technical assistance and direct investment, and
community development financial institutions which would make direct
loans to people who otherwise might not have access to them.
We've also been greatly aided in this national endeavor by some of
our own financial institutions, and I think the leading one plainly has
been NationsBank in terms of what you have done to try to loan money to
people who couldn't get it otherwise.
Now, after 6 years, watching these empowerment zones work, we can
see examples like this. But what I want to say to you now is, I think
it's important that we try to take this example to the whole Nation. Our
economy now is in the best shape it's been in at least a generation;
some people think it's the best economy America has ever had. We have
the lowest recorded rates of unemployment since we've been keeping
separate statistics for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans. We
have record numbers of new small businesses starting in each of the last
6 years. We've got the lowest peacetime unemployment since 1957.
Now, that's all good, but we also know that we have neighborhoods in
big cities, we have small- and medium-sized cities, we have rural areas
and Native American reservations where there has been almost no new
investment, almost no new businesses, almost no new jobs. So I am trying
to highlight, first of all, for the American people, you and people like
you all over the country, so people will know this can be done.
Secondly, I'm trying to build support for an initiative I have
before the Congress now, which is called the new markets initiative,
designed to give tax credits to people who put equity money, investment
money, into low per capita income areas, high unemployment areas in our
country, and to provide loan guarantees, up to two-thirds of the total
investment for people who will do that, and to increase our community
development loaning all over the country, not just in the empowerment
zones, because I believe we ought not to leave anybody behind when we go
into the 21st century. I think that every American who is willing to
work ought to have a chance to do it.
And so, that's why I'm here. I want people to see you and believe it
can be done in their neighborhoods, in their communities, rural or
urban. I want to listen to you, and I want to try to build support.
The last point I want to make is, in July I am going to take 2 or 3
days and go to places in America that need this help, and try to
highlight for the American people in the midst of all our prosperity
both the obligation and the opportunity we have to do better. And I'm
going to ask the American business leaders to help me. And a lot of
these folks came with me today from all over the country. I just want to
mention who is here. They're all the leaders of their various
organizations.
Duane Ackerman from Bell South and Dan Amos from AFLAC, both of
Georgia; Don Carty of American Airlines; Emma Chappell of the United
Bank of Philadelphia; Jon Corzine of Goldman Sachs; Ted Gifford of Bank
of Boston; Martin Grass of Rite Aid; Dan Hesse, AT&T Wireless; Richard
Huber, Aetna; Debra Lee of BET; Leo Mullin of Delta Airlines, another
home base here; Frank Newman of Bankers Trust; Maceo Sloan of Sloan
Financial Group; Sy Sternberg of New York Life; and Sandy Weill, head of
Citigroup. I'd like to ask all them to stand.
[[Page 863]]
They are giving a day of their lives to try to help replicate this
elsewhere, and we thank them. [Applause]
Now, that's enough of our talk. We want to hear from you. Who would
like to go first? I also want to say, I've got some of this good coffee
from the Cameroon, and I gave myself a refill on the way out here; I
hope you'll forgive me. And I had a little of that sweet potato
cheesecake, and I have lifted things from almost every entrepreneur
here. This is a beautiful market, and I want to thank all of those who
had anything to do with it. This is something the entire city can be
proud of, and especially because of its roots to the rich history of
20th century Atlanta. So I'm very pleased.
But I would like to hear from all of you now. Who would like to go
first and talk about what your experience was, how you got your business
started, or what progress has been made here? Would you like to start?
[Jason Slaughter, president and chief executive officer, S&W
International Food Specialties, thanked the President and stated his
belief that, if you give people opportunities, they will do well. He
explained how his business had been helped by the empowerment zones, the
welfare to work program, and the Small Business Administration and how
his business had grown from a $150,000 company with 12 employees to a
$13 million company with over 60 employees in 3\1/2\ years.]
The President. Give him another hand. That was great. [Applause] You
were great. Jason, you might be interested to know that earlier today
when we were meeting in the White House a lot of these business
leaders--and many of them have thousands and thousands of employees, but
they repeatedly said to us, ``Look, what we've got to do is to get
capital out there to folks. They need that more than anything else. If
they can get that first investment money--because you can't borrow it
all unless you're able to put something up--that will make a big
difference.''
And you're living proof of it. The way I figure it, if you can keep
growing at this rate, by the time I'm ready to draw Social Security you
will be a billionaire, and you can hire me to sort of work in my off
hours. [Laughter] I accept right now in advance. I'll be here. You get
ready. That's great.
Would you like to talk a little bit about the role of your bank here
and what you're trying to do?
[Sally Adams Daniels from NationsBank stated that the bank had opened
its community development operation in 1993. Creating partnerships with
local community development corporations, the bank had redeveloped over
4,200 units of affordable housing in Atlanta.]
The President. Let me say, many years ago, before I ever became
President, my wife and I had a long talk one night with Hugh McColl
about investment in low income areas in America. And we told him--we
talked about the Grameen Bank in Bangladesh which basically was the
pioneering bank in the Third World, starting very poor people out in
businesses and actually making good money doing that.
And both Hillary and I at various times in the last, probably 10
years, have had other conversations with him about it and then with
others involved with NationsBank. But I was particularly pleased that
not long after you announced your merger plans that the bank's 10-year
plan for reinvestment in communities, including direct loans to provide
initial capital to people who otherwise wouldn't have it, was announced.
And I want to tell you I very much appreciate that. I think it will
make a huge difference. These people prove that they need a hand up, and
they do right well if they get it.
Vivian, would you like to talk about your experience?
[Vivian Reid, owner of the Kaffee Shop, described how she and family
members had started the coffee shop and how her business had thrived, in
part, because new market initiatives had provided others in the area
with the means to support each other.]
The President. Thank you. Let me say, I think you hit on an
important point, because I can just say, I was really looking forward to
coming down here because I've always loved Atlanta and I love the
history of the place. But when I got here, I saw a lot
[[Page 864]]
of things I didn't know were here, so I think you do need a marketing
plan that tells people what it's like now and where you're going with
it.
You know, you had so many different kinds of just food
establishments, just different kinds. And the other thing that impressed
me--you talked about the family businesses--the other thing that
impressed me was the diversity of people working here. You have a lot of
Asian American families here. You have--there is a lady back there who
is in a food store who told me she is from Ghana, and she said
``Aquava''--when I saw the Ghana word for welcome, which I first heard
about a half a million people in Accra--and I think this is something
that ought to be highlighted, that there are people here from all over
the world, so that you get the best of Atlanta's past and a picture of
Atlanta's future here. And I think there is a way for you to market it
that would even increase the rate of growth that the merchants are
enjoying.
That's what I'm going to do when I get out of the White House, go
around and give people advice like this.
Go ahead. Ken.
[Kenneth Bleakley, executive director, North Yards Business Park, stated
that his organization wanted to try to create more jobs in the inner
city as one of the legacies of the Olympic Games and described how with
the help of the empowerment zone program and environmental funding from
the Department of Housing and Urban Development, they had successfully
funded the program.]
The President. Give him a hand. That was great. [Applause] I would
like to emphasize just one of the points that Ken made. And that is the
funds the Federal Government put into environmental cleanup. Most people
don't ever think about this as an economic development issue. But one of
the things that has retarded the comeback of many areas in our cities
are so-called brownfields, areas that have been subject to some measure
of environmental pollution and areas, therefore, that can't get new
investment and new support and can't even very often get permits to do
what people want to do unless the cleanup is done.
But if the people who want to put the plan in or the business in
have to bear the cleanup costs, then the financing doesn't work out.
There's no reasonable way they can make the economics of their business
work in the early years. So this is something the Vice President pointed
out to me fairly early on in our work together, because he was heading
this empowerment task force that we had. And we've spent a lot of time
and effort trying to give communities funds to clean up the brownfields,
because--and it's just breathtaking what we've found happens, the way it
sort of cascades on itself--the money. And I appreciate what you're
doing.
Mr. Bleakley. Thank you.
The President. And congratulations, to you, too. That's great.
Now, this is my cheesecake lady who destroyed my diet today, and I
loved every bite of it. Do you want to tell us a little about your
experience here and how you got started and what you're doing?
[Sonya Jones, owner of the Sweet Auburn Bread Company, stated the
empowerment zone agencies were very aggressive in helping clients get
projects off the ground. She described the problem she had attracting
qualified people to her business, citing the need to offer them benefits
to attract them.]
The President. Let me ask you this--are the principal needs you have
to attract and keep good employees child care and health care?
Ms. Jones. Definitely.
The President. Those are the principal ones?
Ms. Jones. Yes.
The President. One more than the other?
Ms. Jones. They're right together, actually, I would say.
The President. I do believe this year, at the end of the year when
Congress has to pass the budget, I still think we have quite a good
chance to pass our health care initiative--I mean our child care
initiative, which would provide more tax credits and more direct
subsidies for people with modest incomes to afford quality child care.
And one of the things--there must be a child care center very close to
this market with all these
[[Page 865]]
people down here. If there's not, that's something that ought to be
looked at. But when you get a certain number of employees in the market
and then people near here, you may be able to quite economically
establish something for the neighborhood if there's not.
But if we pass this program, people like the people who would get a
job working for you will have access to a lot more financial help to pay
for that child care.
On the health care side, I really believe the only places that I
know that have been really, really successful at this are people that
have offered pool coverage to small businesses so, in effect, both the
employers and the employees can buy health care at the same cost, more
or less, per person that some of these large employers can. I don't
think there is presently available another alternative to that, and so I
think it's--except for when some States allow people who make relatively
low incomes to buy into the Medicare/Medicaid program for--you know,
they pay something but not the full range.
Those are the only two options that I'm aware of. But if there's not
such a pooled arrangement here in this area, that's the next thing you
ought to try to get the empowerment zone to organize. They can't do it
until they have a certain number of employees, because it doesn't work
economically. But once you cross a certain threshold with a certain
profile for the employees, and a lot of them are young restaurant
workers and healthy--you know, for example, you can do this and make the
economics work. So that's something I think the empowerment zone can do.
Mr. Aderhold, do you want to say something there?
[Mr. John E. Aderhold, chairman, Aderhold Properties, Inc., pointed out
that the community did have a day care center along the lines that
President had discussed but noted that it operated on a small scale and
needed to be expanded.]
The President. You know, it's very interesting. One of the things
that--I saw a study of Georgia about--oh, this was 6-8 months ago, we
were looking at the impact of the welfare reform law. And at the time,
one of the big problems was that Georgia was growing jobs like crazy,
but most of them were growing were in the suburbs and most of the people
who were losing their welfare benefits lived in the cities, and there
wasn't an adequate transportation link.
Here's something that's been done here that has the potential to
grow where are all of you are working folks in the urban areas, and
there may be some way that the State's welfare reform program--and I
think the person who ran it at least for Governor Miller is here--I
don't know if the commissioner is here or not, but he was out at the
airport--but there may be some way that they can use some of the money
that they still have from welfare reform to subsidize child care centers
in the city of Atlanta around here.
Because when we--when I signed the welfare reform bill, one of the
things we did was we gave every State the amount of money they were
receiving in February of 1994 when welfare caseloads were at an all-time
high. Now, they have dropped more than at any period in history. They're
almost 50 percent lower than they were in February of '94. The State
still has that dollar amount. So they've got the same amount of money
they had then, minus inflation, which hasn't been very much. So it may
be that you could go there and try to get them to help the empowerment
zone locate child care here for you.
Mr. Aderhold?
[Mr. John Aderhold described how the Fulton Cotton Mill project had
progressed, renovating 12 acres of dilapidated territory and converting
it into an area which was helping to draw people back into the city.]
The President. Well, thank you for taking a chance on it. And I
think that, if someone like you is willing to take a chance of that
magnitude, at least the modest amounts of money that the Government put
up is the least we can do to share the early risk.
[Mr. Aderhold then added that the way the city cooperated in dispensing
the funds was key to the success and thanked Mayor Campbell for his
assistance.]
The President. Thank you. [Applause] Yes, give them a hand. That's
great.
[[Page 866]]
I didn't mention this earlier, but we are having, 2 weeks from
today--maybe, and maybe it starts 2 weeks from yesterday; but either 2
weeks from yesterday or today, we're having our annual empowerment zone
and enterprise community national convention that the Vice President
hosts, and we're doing it in south Texas this year, in a small town,
rural empowerment zone area we had down there. I think it's in McAllen.
And it's a great place to go if you've never been there.
And we're going to all gather down there, and, Mayor, if either
you're going, or whoever is going from Atlanta representing you--I'm
sure you'll be represented there--I think the point that John just made
is one that ought to be made there. Because we have now had enough
experience with these empowerment zones that we can see differences in
the rate of effectiveness. And I think this is a point that ought to be
hammered home.
So if either you go, or if you will instruct whoever is going on
behalf of Atlanta, to make that point, I'd appreciate it.
Tricia?
Tricia Donegan. Hi, welcome. Thanks for coming to Atlanta. You're
the first guy to get me off a day of work so--[laughter]--since we've
opened.
The President. Glad to do it.
[Tricia Donegan, owner of the Eureka Restaurant, described how she had
started her restaurant business in 1995, how the assistance of the
Federal funds helped get it off the ground, and how it was now expanding
into other empowerment zones in the city.]
The President. Thank you, that was great. I said this morning when I
was meeting with all the CEO's, I don't think any of us ever conceived
this as a charitable operation. We thought that if we could build a
community where everybody had a chance to make a living, that it would
help all the rest of us, that we would all be stronger if people who
were willing to work and had skills and had gifts to give to the
community had a chance to do it and be paid an appropriate amount for
it.
I think that this is a--it is really--America is very good at
creating jobs. And compared to almost every other country in the world
with an advanced economy, we've got a very low unemployment rate. But we
still have a problem when places have been down for a long time, going
back and getting that economic opportunity there and bringing people
into the circle of success.
And if we can't do it now when the economy is good, we'll never get
around to doing it. So that's why I wanted people to see and hear all of
your stories and your philosophy and see how this can work, because this
is what we would like to do in every community in America where it is
not now being done.
Mr. Mayor?
[Mayor Bill Campbell thanked the President for bringing the business
leaders to see how the inner city was flourishing and stated that the
President's urban policy, whether the COPS program or the empowerment
zones, had effectively contributed to the city's growth and well being.]
The President. Let's give all our participants a hand here. They're
great. Thank you. Great job.
Note: The roundtable began at 2:55 p.m. at the Sweet Auburn Market. In
his remarks, the President referred to Mayor Bill Campbell, and former
mayors Maynard Jackson, and Andrew Young of Atlanta, GA; F. Duane
Ackerman, chairman and chief executive officer, Bell South; Daniel P.
Amos, president and chief executive officer, AFLAC, Inc.; Donald J.
Carty, chairman, president, and chief executive officer, American
Airlines; Emma Chappell, chairman, president, and chief executive
officer, United Bank of Philadelphia; Jon Stevens Corzine, chairman,
Goldman Sachs; Charles K. Gifford, chairman and chief executive officer,
Bank of Boston; Martin Grass, chairman and chief executive officer, Rite
Aid Corp.; Dan Hesse, president and chief executive officer, AT&T
Wireless; Richard Huber, chairman, president, and chief executive
officer, Aetna, Inc.; Debra Lee, president and chief operating officer,
BET Holdings; Leo Mullin, president, chairman, and chief executive
officer, Delta Airlines; Frank Newman, chairman and chief executive
officer, Bankers Trust; Maceo Sloan, chairman, president, and chief
executive officer, Sloan Financial Group; Sy Sternberg, chairman,
president, and chief executive officer, New York Life; and Sandy Weill,
chairman and co-chief executive officer, Citigroup; Hugh McColl,
chairman and chief executive officer, Bank of America Corp.;
[[Page 867]]
and former Gov. Zell Miller of Georgia. The transcript made available by
the Office of the Press Secretary also included the remarks of the
roundtable participants.