    [Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 35, Number 17 (Monday, May 3, 1999)]
    [Pages 746-750]
    [Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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    Remarks Announcing Proposed
    Gun Control Legislation

    April 27, 1999

        Thank you very much, Carolyn, John Conyers, Senator Chafee, Senator
    Feinstein, all the many Members of Congress who are here. I thank the
    Attorney General, the Secretary of the Treasury, and Secretary of
    Education. I'm glad to see our old friend Mayor Helmke, and Bob Walker,
    and others here. We have, I think, over 40 Members of Congress here and
    two Senators who went back to the floor to fight for this issue to be
    put on the floor today.
        I would like to do two things. First, I want to tell you
    specifically what we are proposing, and I'll do that. But secondly, I
    would like to tie what we are proposing to all these culture arguments,
    and talk about, if you will, at least two cultures that exist in
    America, and say that I think this, in the end, is going to come down to
    what our conception of America as a community is and what our
    responsibilities to one another are.
        I want to begin by saying a lot of people have made remarkable
    contributions, I think, to this effort to get us to look at the violence
    of our culture and how it makes the most vulnerable of our children,
    without regard to their income or their social status, closer to the
    line of taking violent action, and how it complicates family life for
    everyone.
        I want to thank Hillary for what she's done. I also want to thank Al
    and Tipper Gore, who have done enormously important work on this for
    years, to try to help us deal with the TV issues, the ratings, the V-
    chips, and now, the new efforts we've been making with the Internet
    community to give parents some more control over that and the efforts we
    have to make to train the parents to figure out how to do it, since
    their kids all know more about it than they do.
        But this is very important stuff. In June, Tipper Gore's going to
    host our White House Conference on Mental Health. And the Attorney
    General and Hillary and I were just talking about some of the things we
    can do to help to make sure all of our schools have the adequate
    mentoring and mediation and even mental health services our kids need.

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    All this is very important. And we have to deal with that.
        But if you believe that we have special cultural challenges, it
    seems to me that that's an argument that we ought to bend over backwards
    to try to remove the opportunities for bad things happening, if we have
    more kids that are vulnerable to doing those things, not an argument
    that we ought to say, ``Well, we should walk away from that and just try
    to make sure everybody, individually, in the whole country, never does
    anything wrong.''
        And what's the real problem here? The problem is, we have another
    culture in our country that I think has gotten confused about its
    objectives. We have a huge hunting and sport shooting culture in
    America, and unlike many of you, I grew up in it. I was 12 years old the
    first time I took a .22 and shot it at a can on a fencepost in the
    country. I know about this.
        We always talk about the NRA; the NRA has been powerful not only
    because they have a lot of money but because they can influence people
    who vote. And in that culture, people believe everybody should be
    personally responsible for their actions; if you just punish people who
    do wrong more harshly, fewer people will do wrong; and everybody tells
    me I've got a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, so don't fool
    with me; and every reasonable restriction is just the camel's nose in
    the tent, and pretty soon they'll come after my shotgun, and I'll miss
    the next duck hunting season.
        And we smile about that, but there are some people who would be on
    this platform today who lost their seats in 1994 because they voted for
    the Brady bill, and they voted for the assault weapons ban, and they did
    it in areas where people could be frightened. And the voters had not had
    enough time, which they did have within 2 more years, to see that nobody
    was going to take their gun away.
        So we have more than one cultural problem here. And I want to make a
    plea to everybody who is waiting for the next deer season in my home
    State to think about this in terms of what our reasonable obligations to
    the larger community of America are.
        Do we know for absolutely certain that if we had every reasonable
    law and the ones I'm going to propose here that none of these school
    violence things would have happened? No. But we do know one thing for
    certain. We know there would have been fewer of them, and there would
    have been fewer kids killed in the last several years in America. We
    know that for certain. We know that.
        Cultures are hard to change. And cultures should never be used to
    avoid individual responsibility. But we--when we get to where we change,
    then we wonder. We look back and we say, ``How could we have ever done
    it otherwise?''
        Let me ask you something. Next time you get on an airplane, think
    about how you'd feel if the headline in the morning paper right before
    you got on the airplane was ``Airport Metal Detectors and X-Ray Machines
    Abolished as Infringement on Americans' Constitutional Right To
    Travel.'' Think about it. That's the headline in the morning paper. And
    right next to it there is another headline, ``Terrorist Groups Expanding
    Operations in the United States.'' And you read the two headlines, and
    you're getting on the airplane, exercising your constitutional right to
    travel, which is now no longer infringed by the fact that you might have
    to go through the metal detector twice and take out your money clip or
    take off your heavily metaled belt and that somebody is x raying your
    luggage as it gets on the airplane. It's unthinkable now, isn't it? This
    will become unthinkable, too, that we should ever reverse these things
    if we ever have enough sense to do them.
        But we still have a cultural and a political argument that says to
    defend Americans' rights to reasonable hunting and sport shooting, you
    have to defend the indefensible, as well. This is--it doesn't make any
    sense at all, unless you're caught up in this sort of web of distorted
    logic and denial.
        But Carolyn McCarthy may have made the most important point here.
    We're all in here preaching to the saved. You wouldn't be here if you
    didn't agree. But somebody needs to call these Members that grew up
    where I grew up, that lived in the same culture I did, that belong to
    both parties, and say, ``Hey, we've got to make this like airport metal
    detectors and x-ray machines. This is about our community. This is about
    our responsibility to our children. This is about protecting our

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    children and--the vulnerable children themselves--from people who are
    about to go over the line here. And this is crazy that we're living in a
    society that takes no reasonable steps to protect the larger
    community.''
        So it's not just a culture of violence that has to change; it's the
    culture of hunting and sport shooting that has to stop financing efforts
    to frighten their members, who are good, God-fearing, law-abiding,
    taxpaying citizens out there, into believing that every time we try to
    save a kid's life, it's a camel's nose in the tent.
        I have had to go through those metal detectors as many as 3 times,
    back when I had a real life and I was traveling around, because I had
    all kinds of stuff in there--[laughter]--and every time I start to get a
    little aggravated, I think, ``Boy, I don't want that plane to blow up.''
    [Laughter] You know, make me go through a dozen times if you want to.
    And the person behind me.
        Now, we've got to think about this in that way. These are the folks
    we have to reach. When there are no constituents for this movement, the
    movement will evaporate. When people from rural Pennsylvania and rural
    West Virginia and rural Colorado and Idaho start calling their
    Congressmen and saying, ``Hey, man, we can live with this. We can live
    with this. This is no big deal, you know? I mean, we're just out there
    doing what we do. We'll gladly put up with an extra hassle, a little
    wait, a little this, a little that, because we want to save several
    thousand kids a year.''
        That is my challenge to you. That is what is going on.
        Now, here are the things we want to do. A lot of you won't think
    they're enough, but you remember the culture. You change the culture;
    we'll change the laws. You change the message; we'll do it. And none of
    them have anything to do with anybody's legitimate right to hunt.
        First of all, we ought to strengthen the Brady law. It's kept
    250,000 felons, fugitives, and stalkers--the States now have the insta-
    check system, which is good. The mandatory waiting period has expired,
    that's bad because we need it in addition to the insta-check system to
    give a cooling-off period to people who are in a fit of rage. It's
    important.
        The law that we would present, the act, will also prevent juveniles
    who commit violent crimes from ever buying a gun. It would apply the
    Brady law's prohibition to juvenile violence. It would require Brady
    background checks on anyone who wants to buy explosives. Very important.
    And it would abolish, at long last, as Senator Feinstein said, a
    dangerous loophole that was likely exploited in Littleton, which allows
    people to buy weapons at gun shows without any background checks at all.
        Now, you need to go make this case on this gun show deal. I don't
    know how many of you have ever been to one of these gun shows. I've been
    to gun shows in rural America. People walk around, and they've got their
    cars, and they've got their trunk open, and people walk in and say,
    ``This is nice, and that's nice,'' and ``This is a 100-year-old rifle,''
    and blah, blah, blah. And then they say, ``This is just too much hassle,
    you know. People pay cash, and nobody, you know''--so, it's going to be
    a hassle for them. It's worth it. It's worth it. We're sorry. It's worth
    it.
        You don't have to pretend it won't be a hassle. Tell them you know
    it will be a hassle. It's worth it. People's lives are at stake here.
    What these shows started out doing, which was a good way for people who
    live in rural areas--it started out primarily in rural areas--who enjoy
    hunting and interested in different kinds of weapons, to have an
    interesting experience on a weekend afternoon--has turned out to be a
    gaping loophole through which criminals and deranged people and other
    people get guns they could not otherwise get.
        And so we have to say, ``We haven't asked you to abolish your gun
    shows, but we've asked you to undergo the inconvenience necessary to
    save more lives.'' We don't have to be insensitive; we just have to be
    determined. But I'm telling you, if we don't do something about this gun
    show loophole, we're going to continue to have serious, serious
    problems. And it's very important.
        The second thing we've got to do is to strengthen the assault
    weapons ban, to close the loophole that allows dealers to sell older,
    high-capacity ammunition magazines manufactured abroad. Now, I bet you--
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    thought, now, who in the world could be against this? I actually had a
    conversation with a Member of Congress who said to me--serious, a good
    person, it was a really good person, when we were doing this back in a
    '94, a really good person, this person I was talking to--who told me--
    [laughter]--let me tell you, I just want you to understand what the
    argument was. He said, ``But you've got to understand, we've got people
    who use these bigger magazines for certain kinds of sport contests.''
    And I said, ``Well, so what?'' [Laughter] But he said, ``They'll beat me
    if I vote for this.'' I said, ``They'll beat you if they think all
    you're doing is making their lives miserable because some Washington
    bureaucrat asked you to do it. If you can explain to them that it's
    worth a minor alteration in their sporting habits to save people's
    lives, they won't beat you.''
        But my point is, you've got to help these people. You hear this, and
    you think, ``God, this is a no-brainer. This is a hundred-to-nothing
    deal. Who in the wide world could ever be''--you have to understand,
    there is another culture out there. And almost everybody in it is God-
    fearing, law-abiding, taxpaying; and they show up when they're needed;
    and they don't like this because they don't understand that if they do
    what you're asking them to do, they can save a lot of lives. And we have
    got to fix this. This is just pure mathematics; you're going to have
    fewer people die if you get rid of these magazines. So you need to go
    out there where the problem is and debate your fellow citizens and
    discuss it with them. It's important.
        The third thing the legislation would do is to raise the legal age
    of handgun possession from 18 to 21 years. It would also strengthen our
    zero tolerance for guns in schools, which, as one of the previous
    Members said, had led us to 6,000 suspensions or expulsions last year,
    by requiring schools to report to the police any student who brings a
    gun to school and requiring that the student get counseling. That, I
    think, is very important.
        The provision holding adults criminally responsible would only
    apply, but--this is quite important--but it would apply if they
    recklessly failed to keep firearms out of the reach of young people.
    This would mandate a steep increase in penalties for adults who transfer
    guns illegally to juveniles. It would require child safety locks to be
    sold with all new guns.
        Finally, it would crack down on illegal gun trafficking, doubling
    the number of cities now working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
    Firearms to trace every gun seized by the police. I know this is very
    important to Congresswoman McCarthy.
        It would require that dealers submit information not only on the
    guns they sell but on used guns, which are often very hard for law
    enforcement agencies to trace. It would significantly increase penalties
    for gun runners caught trafficking large numbers of firearms. It would
    establish a national system, as soon as it's feasible, to limit handgun
    purchases to one a month, following the lead of Virginia.
        You know, I've got to say--this is very interesting. When we were
    going over the list of things we wanted to propose, some people said,
    ``Well, that might be a loser because it sounds to people who care about
    this like that's too many, and what is this?'' You know, the States that
    have had big problems in the past, with lots of illegal gun purchases
    and guns then being used for illegal purposes--Virginia did this, and it
    really helped them. This was a big deal. And I just talked to Senator
    Robb about this a couple days ago, and he said, ``You know, all I can
    tell you is it's working in our State.'' So I would ask you to seriously
    consider what this might mean for our efforts to control the law
    enforcement aspects of this.
        So these are the things that I wanted to say. But I hope you'll
    remember what I said to you about the culture. We do have to keep
    working on the culture. Hillary's right about it. Al and Tipper Gore are
    right about it. We've got a lot of responsibilities. We've got to keep
    working on the services for kids. We've even got to work on helping
    parents actually communicate with their children.
        One Senator called me the night before last and said he'd had a town
    meeting in his State with children. And he asked how many of the
    schoolchildren had actually talked to their parents about what happened
    in Littleton. And only 10 percent of the kids raised their hands. And
    one child said, ``I had to go and turn off the television and tell my
    parents we were going to talk about it.'' She

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    said, ``They're just scared. They're scared. They didn't know how to
    talk about it.''
        So there are all these cultural issues. And then there's this big
    cultural issue of the gun and sport hunting culture. And I hope that--a
    lot of my folks at home might take offense at what I said today, but I'm
    trying to help explain them to you. And I felt comfortable taking on
    these issues, and I thought maybe I was in a unique position to take on
    all these gun issues all these years because of where I grew up and
    because I understand how people think who don't agree with this.
        But I'm telling you, we've got to keep working until people start
    thinking about this stuff the same way they think about x rays and metal
    detectors at airports. That's the goal. We have to redefine the national
    community so that we have a shared obligation to save children's lives.
    And we've got to get out of this crazy denial that this won't make a
    difference. It's crazy; it won't make--just because it won't make all
    the difference doesn't mean it won't make a difference. It will make a
    difference.
        I implore you to remember what these Members have said. I implore
    you to go out and get people going at the grassroots, as Carolyn
    McCarthy said. We need help. We can pass all this if the American people
    want it bad enough. We can pass it all if the American people want it
    badly enough. And we don't need to go through another Littleton for the
    American people to want it badly enough. You can help make sure that
    happens.
        Thank you.

    Note: The President spoke at 1:15 p.m. in Presidential Hall (formerly
    Room 450) in the Old Executive Office Building. In his remarks, he
    referred to Mayor Paul Helmke of Fort Wayne, IN; and Bob Walker,
    president, Handgun Control, Inc., and the Center to Prevent Handgun
    Violence. The transcript made available by the Office of the Press
    Secretary also included the remarks of First Lady Hillary Clinton.