[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 35, Number 8 (Monday, March 1, 1999)]
[Pages 302-309]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks to the Community in Tucson, Arizona

February 25, 1999

    The President. Thank you. Thank you. I was just wondering if Esther 
would agree to go back to Washington with me. That was amazing. 
[Laughter]
    Thank you for your wonderful welcome. I had no idea when I got here 
that I was coming to a place so large or so beautiful or completely 
full, with a good crowd outside. And it's a real testament to your good 
citizenship. You can't imagine, as Congressman Kolbe said, what this 
weather look like to us. It has been freezing in Washington. And I come 
here, and I'm sort of a sports fan--you've got three teams in spring 
training; you've got this great golf tournament going on here. And here 
you are with me. Thank you very much. I'm very grateful.
    I'd like to thank Mayor Miller for meeting me at the airport and 
being here today. And he and his wife met me, and it's her birthday 
today--I hope she's enjoying this unusual celebration of her birthday.
    I thank County Supervisor Sharon Bronson for her remarks and her 
presence here today. And Congressman Kolbe, thank you for crossing 
district and party lines to be here with us today. We appreciate it very 
much. I thank you good friend, Ed Pastor, and his wife, Verma, for their 
friendship and support and leadership over the years. I thank him for 
that.
    I know Attorney General Janet Napolitano and several legislators and 
tribal leaders and others are here. I thank them for being here. I think 
the Director of the Pima County Council on Aging, Marian Lupu is here. I

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was told before I got here that Linda Ronstadt and CeCe Peniston are 
here, and if they are, thank you for being here. And if they're not, I'm 
giving them free publicity. That's okay, too. [Laughter]
    You know, I'm delighted to be back in Arizona; I'm delighted to be 
here. Ed told me that I am the first President to come to Tucson since 
President Ford. If that's true, the others didn't know what they were 
missing, I can tell you that. I'm not sure, but I believe this is the 
first time I've had the opportunity in Arizona to thank the people of 
Arizona for their support for the Vice President and me in 1996, and I'm 
very grateful for that.
    This State is living proof that the great era of westward expansion 
did not end a century ago; it is still going on. And when I look out 
here at all of you, I am reminded that when America looks to the west, 
it still sees the future. We see in Arizona the glimpses of America's 
future, and the seismic shifts in population, and growth you are already 
undergoing.
    The mayor mentioned Hillary--the one thing--I wanted to say this: 
the one thing Hillary said to me this morning, only half kidding, before 
I left--I said, ``You know, look at this. This speech begins by saying, 
Arizona is the mirror of the future, all these shifts in population.'' 
She said, ``Yeah, there's another way it's a mirror of the future, too. 
The women are in charge at last.'' I think my political career just got 
in there under the wire. That's what I think. [Laughter]
    Let me say to all of you, we've had a good time today, and I am 
delighted to be here. But I do want to take a few moments to have a 
serious discussion with you about what I believe we should be doing in 
this last year of the 20th century. And I think it is terribly 
important, because the United States is so fortunate today to have the 
longest peacetime expansion in our history and the lowest peacetime 
unemployment since 1957 and all the other economic indicators you know 
well. We're in our second year of budget surpluses after 30 years of 
deficits. Welfare rolls are about half what they were 6 years ago. We 
are so fortunate.
    But the tendency is for people in public life and positions of 
responsibility and for citizens at large, after having gone through 
difficult and challenging times, when things get a whole lot better and 
ordinary folks can finally begin to feel it, to see it in the highest 
homeownership in our history, for example, the tendency is to say, whew, 
and to relax, and to basically just enjoy this moment or to think about 
other things, or to get distracted. And I believe that would be an 
error.
    And I ask you to come here today to join with me in thinking 
seriously about our future, because this prosperity we have and this 
confidence we have gives us not only an opportunity but an obligation to 
try to deal with the long-term challenges America faces. That's what I 
attempted to talk to the American people about in the State of the 
Union. I want to mention a few of them today and then focus on the ones 
that have already been discussed.
    There's one other person, though, I will not forgive myself if I 
don't introduce, a native of Arizona and a very important member of my 
personal White House staff, Mr. Fred DuVal. So I wanted to introduce 
Fred. Thank you very much.
    One of the big challenges you face in Arizona that all America will 
have to face is, how do we preserve the environment as we grow the 
economy; how do we maintain what you all came to California--I mean, to 
Arizona--for in the first place? [Laughter] While you have sustained 
records--economic growth. If you moved here to Arizona, if you're not 
like Esther and you weren't born here, if you moved here, it puts you in 
an awkward position to say you wish other people would stay home, 
doesn't it? So the question is, how do we sustain growth as a country, 
knowing we're going to put more pressure on our natural resources, and 
knowing we have local problems like preservation of green space, other 
natural heritage, quality of water, quality of air, not having toxic 
sites, and that's all somehow connected to a lot of global problems like 
the warming of the climate.
    This is a major challenge. I know that you are working on it. When 
the mayor met me at the airport he gave me a shirt that I'm going to try 
to wear out to spring training when I leave you--on the Bellota Ranch, 
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miles from here--the kind of thing we ought to be doing more of.
    And so one example of what we're trying to do to help you deal with 
the future is the livability agenda that I talked about a little bit in 
the State of the Union, that the Vice President and I developed, that 
will give communities new tools and new resources to deal with whatever 
the major challenge is in any community to making it more livable, 
whether it's reducing traffic congestion or saving green space or 
promoting smart growth.
    We also have to recognize that we're not yet giving all of our 
children a world-class education, so in the State of the Union I talked 
a lot about how we can build a 21st century education for every American 
child, from putting more teachers in the schools to building or 
modernizing 6,000 schools, to having more summer school and after-school 
programs, to having more charter schools and Internet hookups for all of 
our classrooms. These things are very important. And Arizona has growth 
challenges and diversity challenges there as well.
    We talked a lot about--in the State of the Union, I talked a lot 
about the need to bring economic opportunity to the communities and the 
people that still haven't been part of the recovery, whether they're in 
urban areas or isolated rural areas or Native American reservations. We 
have a program now--if we can't get investment in there now when 
unemployment is low and when money is ample, if we can't get private 
investment to prove free enterprise will work for all Americans who will 
work, we'll never get around to doing that. So I think that is a very 
important thing for us to do now, and I hope you will support that.
    But for the next few years, all of these major challenges will be 
overshadowed by two great decisions: how do we deal with the aging of 
America; and what are we going to do, now that we finally have a budget 
surplus, what are we going to do with it? And I want you to think about 
that.
    You know you are on the cutting edge of the aging of America. Here 
in Pima County alone, there are an enormous number of people over 65; 
the number has doubled just since 1980. The number of Americans over 65 
in the entire country will double within 30 years. Life expectancy is 
already 76 years-plus in America. If you get to be 65 years old, your 
life expectancy, on average, is already over 80, well over 80. People 
over 80 are the fastest growing group of Americans. Esther's just one of 
the crowd there--[laughter]--and her family.
    So what does all that mean? Well, it means that before you know it, 
there will only be two people working for every one person drawing 
Social Security. It means even before that, there will be many, many 
more people on Medicare, and the older you get, the more you tend to 
access health services. And even staying healthy often costs money.
    If you look at that, when the baby boomers retire--we had to wait 
two generations. It's not until--this group that's now in the schools 
today is the only group of Americans more numerous than the baby boom 
generation. I'm the oldest of the baby boomers, I was born in 1946----
    Audience member. Me, too. [Laughter]
    The President. It looks better on you. [Laughter]
    And those of us in the next 18 years are the so-called baby boom 
generation--we retire, there will be two people drawing--working for 
every one person drawing Social Security. And even before that, as I 
said, there will be great pressures put on the Medicare program because 
we're living longer, and we have more access to high-tech medicine, but 
we access it more.
    Another thing that's important for you to remember is that Social 
Security is not just a retirement program; it's an insurance program. 
One-third of the investments that are paid out in Social Security go to 
people who become disabled or to the survivors of people who die 
prematurely from accidents, disease, and other things. And when you 
think about what you're getting out of Social Security, particularly if 
you're not drawing it yet, don't forget that every year--you have the 
equivalent of a term insurance policy that's issued every year against 
disability or death.
    All over America, I meet people who literally would not be able to 
get along were it not for these benefits. So here's the problem: 
Everybody likes Social Security; everybody likes Medicare; and we can't 
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programs unless we make some changes, both changes in the structure of 
the program and investing more money.
    Now, thank goodness we now have a surplus. We're in the second year 
of surpluses, and we project that, on average, we'll have them for at 
least another 25 years. That doesn't mean that we won't have bad 
economic years, but on average, year-in and year-out, we'll have them, 
and that's good.
    Now, in the State of the Union Address, as Esther said, I proposed 
setting aside for 15 years 62 percent of the surplus for Social Security 
and 15 percent of it for Medicare. And I'd like to talk a little about 
that. I propose to do it in a way that will enable us to pay down the 
national debt with the surpluses but as we pay the debt down, to commit 
the money that we're using to pay the debt down when it comes back in, 
when it's manifested in the out-years, to commit future years money to 
Social Security and Medicare.
    Now, if we do that, every young person in the audience should be for 
that, not just because it would guarantee that you would get Social 
Security and Medicare but because if you pay the debt down, as I'll say 
more about in a minute, it will immeasurably strengthen the American 
economy. And keep in mind, it is the strength of our economy that is 
enabling us to have this whole conversation today. If we still had 8 
percent unemployment and a $200 billion deficit, we'd be letting 
somebody else think about this down the road.
    Now, I want to say, first of all, that I am very encouraged that 
there are more and more Members of Congress like the two here, Ed Pastor 
and Jim Kolbe, who are committed to seeking reasonable solutions to 
these challenges, and who want to set aside--there seems now to be broad 
agreement among leaders and rank-and-file members in both parties of 
Congress to set aside the lion's share of the surplus to save Social 
Security.
    There seems to be, now, some movement in the Republican majority 
away from having a large across-the-board tax cut if it would take away 
from the surplus' ability to save Social Security. We don't yet have 
that kind of agreement on setting aside some of the surplus for 
Medicare, and I think we should. And I'm going to keep pushing for that, 
because I think it's important--and I'll explain more about that in a 
moment--because I think we have to have both Social Security and 
Medicare fixed by the end of this year.
    Now, I can tell you--if you look at what this surplus is projected 
to be over the next 15 years, if we did what I asked there would still 
be a substantial amount of money, out of which you could have targeted 
tax cuts, which I think the best are the USA accounts, the savings 
accounts I proposed, because most people need help saving for their 
retirement. But you could have a targeted tax cut. You could have 
investments for defense, for education, for medical research. There's 
still money there.
    But keep in mind: when you save money, if it doesn't materialize, 
you just didn't save quite as much as you meant to. Once you give the 
tax cut, the money is gone. So we're giving it back to you, and it was 
all your money in the first place. And that's good. But if you want us 
to fix Social Security and Medicare, you should want us to make sure 
that we invest enough to do that. And if we do it--[applause]--thank 
you.
    Now, let me just tell you basically what I propose to do. What I 
propose to do is to take 62 percent of the surplus, commit it to Social 
Security, and pay the debt down. And what I believe we should do is to 
invest a modest amount of this in the private sector, the way every 
other retirement plan does. The Arizona State retirement plan does; 
every municipal retirement plan does; every private plan does. But I 
don't want to see the Government having too much influence over the 
stock market, so I proposed to set up a totally independent board, like 
every other retirement plan has, that no politician can have any 
influence over, and then to limit the aggregate amount of our 
investments to about 4 percent. It will never get over 4 percent over 
the next 20 years.
    There's some differences about that, but if you do it, you'll 
increase the rate of return on Social Security. When only two people 
work and one person draws, you have to find some way to do it. Mr. Kolbe 
got a different way he thinks is better.
    But here the point I want to make: If you set aside 62 percent of 
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Social Security Trust Fund to 2050, maybe another year or two, depending 
on how much longer the economy stays in good shape.
    But there are three other things we need to do, and I want you to 
think about it. Number one, historically, to have a good retirement 
system with Social Security, we've always thought we ought to have it 
alive for 75 years. Number two, the rate of poverty among single elderly 
women is over 18 percent, nearly twice the general rate of poverty among 
seniors, and we need to make some adjustments in the program to lift 
them out of poverty, I think. Number three, I think it's a mistake, when 
more and more seniors are living longer and living healthier, to 
continue the earnings limitation on Social Security, that limits what 
people can earn. And interestingly enough, if you lift the earnings 
limitation, it actually costs the Trust Fund money in the short run 
because a lot of people start collecting their Social Security. But 
within a matter of a few years, it starts making money, because even 
retired people who earn income pay taxes on it, so after a certain 
period it will actually start replenishing the Social Security Trust 
Fund.
    Now, to do that, to do that we will have to make some other changes. 
And to do that, we will have to make some changes that will be perhaps 
somewhat controversial, that will have to be made in a bipartisan 
fashion. But the changes won't be nearly as dramatic, nearly as big and 
nearly as troublesome as they would be if we didn't commit the surplus 
in the first place.
    So I hope that you will support this idea of committing the surplus 
and then you will tell--we're down in Ed's district now--tell him that 
you know he wants to preserve Social Security; you know he wants to take 
care of the people that have to be taken care of; and you will trust him 
to go up there and make some decisions that may be somewhat 
controversial today; but 10 or 20 years from now we'll all be thanking 
goodness that the Congress of the United States was willing to do what 
it takes to save Social Security for 75 years. And I think that's 
important.
    Now, let me say furthermore, on Medicare, here's the problem. We've 
made a lot of changes in Medicare to try to cut down on fraud and abuse, 
and there was a bunch of it. Right now, the Trust Fund in Medicare is 
stable for 10 years; that's the good new. Here's the bad news. Ten years 
is not enough. We ought to stabilize it for 20 years. And as probably 
most of you have noticed, inflation in the cost of health care has gone 
way down the last few years. Health insurance premiums have not been 
going up very fast. We've got them back in line with inflation.
    When I became President, for many years before that, health 
insurance premiums had been going up at 3 times the rate of inflation. 
But a lot of the savings, the easy savings that could be squeezed out 
for managed care--and some not so easy, which is why I'm for the 
Patients' Bill of Rights--a lot of those savings have been squeezed out. 
So this year, it is estimated that health insurance premium costs will 
increase about 7 percent, whereas the general rate of inflation will be 
just a little over 2 percent.
    So you can see that that's a real problem. We can't sustain the 
present budgeted costs of Medicare. We're going to have to put some more 
money in it. If we put 15 percent of the surplus aside for Medicare for 
20 years--15 years, we could take the Trust Fund out from 2010 to 2020.
    Now, I would also like to see us begin to work into Medicare a 
prescription drug benefit, which I think would dramatically improve it. 
But keep in mind, the program doesn't have enough money now. We've got 
to be careful how we do it because you could spend a whole lot of money 
in a hurry and give people who may not need it the benefit. But if you 
think about it, we're spending--we've had a remarkable bipartisan 
consensus. You know, you wouldn't think we ever agreed on anything, I'm 
sure, out here. [Laughter] Once in a great while we all agree on 
something. And one of the things that we've had real agreement on every 
since I've been in Washington, for the last 6 years, has been to 
dramatically increase spending for medical research. And some of the 
findings are breathtaking.
    We've uncovered the genes that give a strong predisposition to 
breast cancer. We've done nerve transplantations in laboratory animals 
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cured broken spinal cords in laboratory animals, just unbelievable 
things that have breathtaking potential for the future. But if we're 
investing all this money to try to come up with medicine, for example, 
that helps to keep people well or to cure conditions that were formerly 
incurable, that dramatically improve the quality of life, we want to be 
able to bring those into the lives of the American people.
    And if you're worried about people, in effect, as we get older 
putting enormous burdens on the hospital costs, which is all the money 
is--you know, hospital and doctor visits--if we can work out the right 
sort of prescription drug benefit, we'll actually save money over the 
long run because people will stay out of the hospital, they'll stay out 
of costly medical care, they will stay healthy. So we have to work hard 
to kind of get this right.
    So again, my proposal is, set aside 15 percent of the surplus for 
Medicare, take the Trust Fund out to 2020, but recognize we're going to 
have to make some changes there for the same reason we have to make some 
changes in Social Security, and especially if we want to add a 
prescription drug benefit for the people who really need it.
    Now, that's the general outline of my proposal. But I also want to 
emphasize, if you save the surplus for 15 years--we save a little over 
three-quarters of this surplus for 15 years and used it to buy into 
publicly held debt and to pledge the future revenues to Social Security 
and Medicare, here's what would happen. We would go from a national debt 
that today was quadrupled between 1981 and 1993--we quadrupled the debt, 
and it was 50 percent of our annual income--today it's down to 44 
percent of our annual income. In 15 years, it will be down to 7 percent 
of our annual income. The last time it was 7 percent of our annual 
income was 1917, right before we went into World War I.
    What does that mean to you in practical terms? This is where I want 
the young people in the audience to listen. It will mean that the 
Congress that meets 15 years from now, instead of having to take a 13-
plus-cents of every dollar you pay in taxes right off the top to pay 
interest on the debt, we'll be spending 2 cents of every dollar you pay 
in taxes to pay interest on the debt.
    In the early years, most of the difference will go to fix Social 
Security and Medicare. But over time, that's a huge amount of money that 
can be invested in the needs of future generations. It can be providing 
for tax cuts; it can be providing for anything out in the country when 
we get this debt off.
    But what I want the young people to understand here, especially is 
if we start paying this debt down and we go all the way, if we stay on 
this trajectory we could be debt-free for the first time in 2018. That's 
just 19 years from now. And in the meanwhile we'll have lower interest 
rates, higher investment, more investment in new business and new jobs, 
home mortgage rates will be lower, credit card payments will be lower, 
car payments will be lower, student loan rates will be lower, and the 
economy will grow faster. Now, I want you to think about it. Why will 
that happen? Because the Government will not be going in and taking up a 
bunch of money every year to finance the deficit. So interest rates will 
go down, savings will go up, investment in our future will go up.
    So this proposal is good for younger people for two reasons: This is 
not--for one thing, people on Social Security now don't have to worry, 
it's going to be fine for 30 years. You don't have to worry. Now, you 
do, most of you on Medicare, have to worry because it's not going to be 
fine after 10 years if we don't fix that.
    But every American of every age should care about this. Why? Well, 
for one thing, I can tell you as the oldest of the baby boomers, I spend 
a lot of time--I stay in touch with the people I grew up with, a lot of 
them. Most of them are just middle-class people, the kind of people who 
live here in Tucson. And my whole generation is obsessed with the 
thought that our retirement, because we're such a large group, would put 
an unacceptable burden on our children and their ability to educate and 
raise our grandchildren. And if we fix Social Security and Medicare, 
then our children will have more of their disposable income in those 
years to build their families, their quality of life, and their 
children's future. That's why this is not just a seniors' issue.

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    Secondly, if we pay down the debt, the major beneficiaries of those 
changes will be the younger people. You know, there's been a lot of 
trouble in the world economy the last couple of years. Last year it was 
terrible. I have worked very hard to try to turn it around. I will do 
everything I can this year to make some major strides forward, because a 
lot of our prosperity depends upon the prosperity of our trading 
partners. But our ability to control what happens beyond our borders is 
somewhat limited, as all of you understand. I can tell you this: If we 
pay this debt down, whatever bad times come in the future won't be as 
bad as they would have been by a long shot. And whatever good times come 
in the future will be much better than they would have been because of 
this.
    So I say again, I haven't tried to give you a traditional political 
speech today; we're just having a talk. And I appreciate how--I very 
much appreciate how quiet you've been and how you've listened to this.
    There are some promising signs in Washington. I met with the leaders 
of both parties in both Houses, a couple of days ago. There's some 
indication that there is--I think there is an agreement that we have to 
use the lion's share of the surplus to save Social Security. There is, I 
think, some movement toward reaching some consensus about the nature of 
tax cuts, if they ought to be targeted and benefit the people that need 
it most and try to not get in the way of saving Social Security. We're 
not there on Medicare yet, and the Medicare problem will come sooner.
    But we need to hear--the people of this country need to make a 
decision. And this is maybe a fairly complicated scenario I've laid out 
for you. I know it would be a lot more popular to say, ``We've got a 
surplus. It's your money. I'm just going to give it back to you.'' And 
then you could all cheer; and I could go home; we'd go watch baseball or 
do something else. [Laughter]
    But what I want to say to you is, this is a high-class problem. This 
is nothing to wring your hands about. The reason we have this Social 
Security and Medicare problem is because we've got the best medical 
science in the world and because we're all living longer. This is not an 
occasion for hand-wringing. The older I get, the better I like this 
problem. [Laughter] This is a high-class problem.
    But we have a responsibility to the future. This country's still 
around here, after more than 200 years, because whenever the chips are 
down and we had to make a decision about what kind of country we were 
going to be and what kind of future we were going to have, we did the 
right thing. And we kept going forward.
    And the decisions that we make, not just in the Congress and the 
White House, but as a people, about whether we're willing to take on the 
challenge of securing Social Security for the 21st century, whether 
we're willing to do the same thing for Medicare, and whether we're 
willing to save a substantial part of this surplus to do those things 
and to pay this debt down, will shape, in large measure, what America is 
like for the young people in this audience and their counterparts 
throughout the United States.
    This is a wonderful time to be in the United States. We can all be 
grateful, because the truth is that no one, not even the President, 
could have predicted that the results of our attempts to reduce the 
deficit, to bring interest rates down, would have produced these 
results. And no one can claim sole credit for it. This is a shared 
achievement of the American people. And we should be proud of it.
    So as we go back to Washington and we go back to work, I ask you 
here--and I ask you to talk to your friends and neighbors in Arizona--
when you're on your phone with your friends and family members 
throughout the country, I want you to tell them about this meeting 
today. And if you don't remember anything else, just remember, if we 
save about three-quarters of this surplus for Medicare and Social 
Security and if we pay the debt down with the surplus and then if we 
have the courage to make some decisions that may sound a little tough--
to save Social Security for 75 years, fix Medicare for 20 years, and get 
the debt down to where it's virtually nonexistent--America is going to 
be a stronger, better place.
    These programs will be there. These programs will be there for the 
next generation of Americans, but America will be there--

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America will be there--brighter, better, stronger than ever before.
    Thank you, and God bless you.

Note: The President spoke at 12:35 p.m. in the Music Hall at the Tucson 
Convention Center. In his remarks, he referred to senior citizen Esther 
Don Tang, who introduced the President; Mayor George Miller and his 
wife, Roslyn; Verma Pastor, wife of Representative Ed Pastor; and 
entertainers Linda Ronstadt and CeCe Peniston.