[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 32, Number 24 (Monday, June 17, 1996)]
[Pages 1050-1054]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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The President's News Conference With President Robinson

June 13, 1996

    President Clinton. Please be seated. Good afternoon.
    Let me begin as I did this morning, by thanking President Robinson 
for the extraordinary hospitality that Hillary and I and our entire 
delegation received in Ireland late last year. I don't know whether it's 
possible to actually equal Irish hospitality, but we're determined to 
try. I hope that the President of Ireland feels very much at home and 
very much admired in America because she certainly is.
    Once again, I thank President Robinson for the extraordinary 
contributions of Irish-Americans to our country, and for the 
extraordinary contributions of the Irish people not just to their 
neighbors, but to strangers in need all around the globe.
    Over the past 40 years, every single day there has been an Irish 
citizen working for peace somewhere in the world. More than 40,000 
military personnel have worked in U.N. peacekeeping operations. Great 
sums of money have been expended by a poor country for humanitarian 
relief. At this very moment, hundreds of Garda and defense forces are 
serving in nine different countries, from Lebanon and Cyprus to the 
Western Sahara and Bosnia. As Ireland has grown and progressed and 
become more prosperous, the generosity and vision of the Irish people 
have found a wider and wider range of avenues for their expression.
    We are very grateful for the thousands of Irish volunteers who are 
working in places of crisis and suffering all over the world but 
especially in Rwanda, where President Robinson has shown special concern 
and special leadership.
    President Robinson and I agreed that so many of the problems we face 
today--terrorism, international organized crime, drugs, environmental 
decay--have no respect for national borders, and to effectively meet 
them we have to work together. We discussed our determination especially 
to work closely with Ireland as it assumes the European presidency so 
that we can increase our cooperation in the international fight against 
drugs.
    Let me also say I am encouraged at the beginning of the historic 
negotiations in Belfast toward a just and lasting peace in Northern 
Ireland. I know how much the people of Northern Ireland want peace. I 
saw it and felt it for myself last year. I know how hard the people of 
Ireland have worked to support the peace process in Northern Ireland and 
the Government of Ireland has worked to support the peace process in 
Northern Ireland. And I reaffirmed to President Robinson that the United 
States will continue to do everything we possibly can to help the 
negotiations along.
    Madam President, we're glad to have you in America. We're grateful 
for you and your country. And the microphone is yours.
    President Robinson. Thank you.
    Well, I very much welcomed the opportunity to say in more detail to 
President Clinton how much the support of the United States and the 
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expressed in so many practical ways and over the past few years has 
meant to Ireland. I say the past few years because I think it's 
important to recognize that this is building on a great bond of 
friendship between our two countries.
    But this is a very significant time on the Island of Ireland, and we 
have a window of opportunity. And the way in which the United States has 
been supportive and helpful in nurturing peace and reconciliation on the 
Island of Ireland is of crucial significance.
    I look forward to meeting the majority and minority leaders of 
Congress in order to express, on behalf of the people of Ireland, how 
much we appreciate the real friendship and concern. And I was glad to be 
able to refer to the tangible ways in which that has been manifested. If 
one looks back even over a span of 18 months, the importance of the 
Washington Conference in May 1995, following the cessation of violence, 
that there would be a peace dividend, the people would have hope, 
something to look forward to, the very practical way in which the United 
States has helped in that regard, the sense of being very much in touch 
with the complexity, but also the way things are moving forward. And 
that was so evident during the extremely memorable and historic visit of 
President Clinton and the First Lady to Ireland at the end of November, 
beginning of December.
    In a relatively short time in Belfast and Derry and Dublin, not only 
did President Clinton and the First Lady express in very important ways 
the focus on peace and reconciliation, you in fact gave an opportunity 
to ordinary people to come out into the street and to demonstrate from 
the heart how much they wanted sustainable peace. That was part of the 
huge crowds that came out because you represented somebody who was 
informed, who was balanced in approach, who was thoughtful, who came 
from a very powerful country that is engaged in helping us. And we very 
much appreciate that.
    And so, I think this state visit is timely in affording an 
opportunity to acknowledge and show appreciation on behalf of the people 
of Ireland. And I do so, of course, in the context of very sensitive and 
difficult negotiations at the moment. And Senator George Mitchell and 
his two colleagues are engaged in the process of helping, helping to try 
to move forward step by step to bring about that peace and 
reconciliation.
    And as you have mentioned, President Clinton, it's also a year in 
which Ireland takes on responsibilities: responsibility for chairmanship 
of the European Union, which begins on the first of July; responsibility 
for continuing the chairmanship of the Intergovernmental Conference, 
which is very important not just for the European Union but for the 
wider Europe. It will talk about issues of efficiency at the European 
level but also the consideration of a further enlargement of the 
European Union, which is of such importance to stability and to the 
future of the democracies of Central and Eastern Europe.
    And it was, therefore, a welcome opportunity with the Tanaiste, Dick 
Spring, who will, in fact, in his role as Irish Foreign Minister, have a 
great responsibility. I think it was very welcome that there was the 
opportunity to share ideas and discussion. And we did touch on a lot of 
matters, but I think it was a very fruitful discussion.
    And most of all, I will take every opportunity I have to say from 
the heart not only how much I appreciate coming here as President of 
Ireland but also the way in which I can express the heartfelt 
appreciation of the people of Ireland and the importance of your 
engagement with us in seeking and indeed, hopefully, bringing about the 
sustainable peace and reconciliation on the Island of Ireland.
    Thank you.
    President Clinton. Helen [Helen Thomas, United Press International.]

Russian and Israeli Elections

    Q. Mr. President, the United States has been interested in two 
foreign elections and especially the outcomes, and your preferences are 
pretty well-known: Israel and Russia. Do you think the election in 
Russia--do you think it would be disastrous if the communists won? And 
what assurances do you have from the Israeli Government, the new 
government regime, that the peace process will continue, that there will 
be no building of settlements on the West Bank, and all of the other 
issues?

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    President Clinton. Well, first of all, the new Israeli Government is 
just being formed, and I think we have to leave the Prime Minister-
designate, Mr. Netanyahu, his elbow room to put his government together 
and to go forward.
    I think in the meantime we can rely on his own statements, which 
have been quite encouraging about continuing the peace process and 
respecting the work that has been done to date. And so, I feel very good 
about that. And that, in a way, it seems to me, bears out the position 
the United States has taken, that we support the peace process and those 
who take risks for peace.
    With regard to Russia, let me say, I think--I wouldn't underestimate 
the importance of the fundamental fact that they're about to have an 
election. And it is consistent with their Constitution, and it's going 
to be an extraordinary thing. I believe it was President--former 
President Aristide of Haiti who once said that when a country becomes a 
democracy, the second election is the most important.
    And I think that all the parties and all the interests would have to 
say a word of support to those who are in authority now, who are 
respecting the Constitution or promoting this election. And I think that 
gives a chance for reform in Russia to succeed and endure. That has not 
been the case, literally, for centuries because when the czars attempted 
to reform things in Russia, they had no way of making the system bigger 
than themselves, no way of making the Constitution the rule of law such 
that people could have elections and make decisions on their own about 
who their leaders should be.
    So I want to applaud those who are responsible for that and the 
people of Russia and encourage them all to participate. Now, you know 
what our position is. Our position is that we support democracy; we 
support reform; we support cooperation; we support partnership. I've 
made my feelings about all these issues perfectly clear. And I think 
that I should. And you know that I've had a very good, positive 
relationship with President Yeltsin. But we support the democratic 
process in Russia, and we will support the right of the people of Russia 
to pick their own leaders. And then we will deal with the decision that 
they make.

United Nations

    Q. President Robinson, did you get a chance to speak to President 
Clinton about the United States being in arrears with the U.N.? And 
President Clinton, do you think that President Robinson would be a good 
candidate for the U.N. General Secretary?
    President Robinson. We did discuss the whole area of reform of the 
United Nations, which is so important, and the role of the United 
Nations in the context of the post-cold-war world. I had an opportunity 
to give a sense of the need to have a better sense of the importance of 
the United Nations. And I think that was really what we focused on, that 
somehow that story is underappreciated.
    People see bits of the involvement of the United Nations in certain 
ways, and there are criticisms. And understandably, in some areas there 
are criticisms. But there is a lack of awareness of the rounded story of 
how important what has been built up for the last 50 years is. And this 
we certainly did discuss. And we did it also in the context, for 
example, of issues in Africa and also in the new South Africa. But I 
think it was more a focus on the philosophical and broader sense of the 
United Nations and not specifically on the issues that you asked.
    President Clinton. I brought up the arrearages. She didn't raise it, 
but I did--[laughter]--because I think it's wrong, and I believe we 
should pay our arrearages. And I have been trying to correct that since 
I became President. But I also pointed out there is a very strong and 
bipartisan opinion in our Congress that we need some reforms in the 
United Nations, and we're working very hard to achieve those reforms. 
And I want to see the United States pay its fair share. I think the 
American people expect us to pay our fair share. But we want a U.N. 
that's even more effective in the way we raise and spend our money. And 
I do agree that the United Nations is often underappreciated in terms of 
all the things that it does that are important.
    Obviously there was no discussion of the other question you asked 
me. But you know, I have very high regard for President Robin- 

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son. I think she would do a good job in any position that she might be 
considered for. But there's been no discussion of that particular issue. 
But I have a very high regard for her.
    Terry [Terence Hunt, Associated Press]?

Supreme Court Decision on Redistricting

    Q. Mr. President, the Supreme Court today struck down congressional 
redistricting plans in Texas and North Carolina that would have given 
blacks and Hispanics more political clout. Does this hurt Democrats' 
chances of reclaiming Congress and your chances of holding on to the 
White House?
    President Clinton. Well, I was disappointed by the decision for the 
reasons that you said. But I think the answer to that is no. I think the 
answer to that is no. I think the affected voters will see that they 
need to work even harder to make sure their voices are heard.

Helms-Burton Amendment

    Q. Mr. President, you said yesterday that you're reviewing the 
claims of extra- territoriality of the Helms-Burton law. What do you 
mean by that? And are you considering waivering it?
    President Clinton. What I said yesterday was there are provisions in 
the Helms-Burton law which give the President some flexibility, and I am 
reviewing what the facts are and trying to determine what the best and 
most proper way to implement the law is. But I have made no decision and 
I have nothing else to add.
    Wolf  [Wolf Blitzer, CNN]?

FBI Files of White House Pass Holders

    Q. Mr. President, a former FBI agent has an article he has written 
in the Wall Street Journal today in which he says he worked at the White 
House until '95--in which he says he warned specifically the FBI and 
White House officials about the potential for abusing these FBI files 
that were sent over here to the White House, but nobody seemed to be 
paying attention, and he thought it was part of a systematic effort to 
look for dirt on potential enemies, which obviously is a very serious 
accusation. A, are you familiar with this article that was written 
today? And B, do you have anything else to say that can clarify what is 
obviously a very explosive accusation if true?
    President Clinton. No, I did not read it and don't know if he named 
any names of any particular people he warned.
    Q. He says--he did name his supervisor at the FBI as well as Craig 
Livingstone here at the White House.
    President Clinton. Well, you would have to ask them then. I don't 
know. I can just tell you that I do not believe there was any systematic 
effort to do that. I believe this happened just the way the person who 
had the file said it happened. I believe that until there is evidence to 
the contrary, that is what you should assume is the truth.
    I mean, it's not--it doesn't make any sense. There is no--there 
would be no reason to do it, and it's inconsistent with the clear 
instructions that I have given and the way we have operated this White 
House.
    So I would just say until I have evidence to the contrary--and I 
mean evidence--I'm glad to be open to evidence, but we need evidence 
before we draw any conclusion like that. There is just--there is no--and 
I never saw any indication of it for 3\1/2\ years that anybody was 
trying to do anything of that kind. And if I had I would not have 
tolerated if for a split second.
    President Robinson. That's the Irish television coming.

Northern Ireland Peace Process

    Q. What would you say to members of the Unionist community in 
Northern Ireland who are still skeptical and may be suspicious of 
American involvement in the peace process?
    President Clinton. Well, first of all, look at what--what has the 
American involvement been? I would say look at what the American 
involvement has been. What we have tried to do is to do whatever we 
could to facilitate an end to violence and the participation of those 
parties that would be necessary to effect a just and lasting peace. We 
have not tried to prejudge any of the specific issues for anyone. And 
all we have offered to do is to do what we could to help in the peace 
process, to maximize the rewards and minimize the risks of peace, as 
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siders. We are not insiders; we are not trying to determine the details 
of this in any way, shape, or form.
    So I don't think we've had a destructive impact there. And we 
certainly would not want to.
    Q. Mr. President----
    President Clinton. Yes, Jim [Jim Miklaszewski, NBC News]. Go ahead.

Church Burnings in the South

    Q. Mr. President, despite your bully pulpit appeals, there was 
another church burning in Oklahoma overnight. Is it going to take 
something stronger from the Federal Government? And what kind of 
measures along that line are you considering today?
    President Clinton. Well, we have, as I announced yesterday in South 
Carolina, we have substantially increased the number of Federal 
officials working on the investigation of each of these incidents. And 
we are examining, even as you and I are talking here, some other 
possible options for what else can be done. I may have more to say about 
it later. I don't have anything else to add today, except we're going to 
get to the bottom of every one of these cases. We're going to do 
everything we can.
    And again, I want to issue a strong plea to the American people--
this is not what this country is all about. This is a deeply religious 
country where we--we were founded in a commitment to respect the right 
of every single person to religious freedom. And what appear to be a 
number of racially motivated instances are just--they're not only 
illegal, they're morally unacceptable and reprehensible, and Americans 
need to stand up against it. And we're looking at other ways that we can 
do better and do more.
    Any other questions on the Irish side?

Northern Ireland Peace Process

    Q. Mr. President, if the negotiations in Belfast go ahead, but 
without Sinn Fein because there's no IRA cease-fire, do you think they 
have any possibility of succeeding under those conditions?
    President Clinton. Well, let's see what happens. They just got 
started. I don't want to get into a lot of speculation. All I can tell 
you is that I'm encouraged that they've begun and not discouraged that 
there was some procedural wrangling in the beginning. And this is a 
complex matter. There will be a lot of turns in the road before it's 
over, but I'm hopeful. And on balance, I feel quite hopeful today.
    Thank you.

Note: The President's 124th news conference began at 1 p.m. in Room 450 
of the Old Executive Office Building.