[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 32, Number 7 (Monday, February 19, 1996)]
[Pages 273-277]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

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Remarks in a Roundtable Discussion on Tobacco Use Prevention and an 
Exchange With Reporters

February 12, 1996

[Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala 
introduced the President and thanked him for his leadership on the issue 
of tobacco and children.]

    The President. I'm looking forward to it. First of all, let me 
welcome all of you here to the White House and to the Oval Office.
    As I'm sure you know, this is an issue that has concerned me for 
some time, and there are real reasons for it. Three thousand young 
people start smoking every day, even though it's illegal for them to do 
so. A thousand will have their lives shortened because of it. Smoking 
tobacco is the largest single cause of preventable death in the United 
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every year. And while there are things the Government can do about it, 
we need your help.
    When I gave my State of the Union Address I said that our country 
has seven great challenges for the future, but the first and most 
important is to strengthen our families and give all of our children 
back their childhood. In the case of teen smoking, the Food and Drug 
Administration is reviewing about 700,000 comments from citizens before 
deciding what to do to discourage the marketing, the advertising, the 
sales of cigarettes to children more. We just promulgated what it called 
the Synar regulation, named in honor of the late Congressman from 
Oklahoma, Mike Synar, which requires States to take stronger stands to 
discourage teen smoking and to set a goal of reducing teen smoking by 
about 80 percent over the next several years.
    So we're working hard, but we know we've got to have your help. We 
know this has got to be a partnership. I think the most important thing 
I've learned as President is that while Government can't solve all of 
our problems, we have no business going back to a time when everybody's 
left to fend for themselves. These are things we have to do together. 
And I want to compliment the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and, of 
course, the National PTA--thank you so much--and the American Cancer 
Society and all of those who are going to create this National Center 
for Tobacco-Free Kids.
    This center is sort of a symbol of how I think America ought to 
work, because it will involve the best national experts but, more 
importantly, community groups, all kinds of grassroots groups of people 
working together to try to deal with this issue.
    And I just want to thank you and say that I hope that your presence 
here today and your work and your concern, especially the young people, 
will be a symbol that will, through the help of all these fine people 
here covering us, go out across America so that others will do that.
    I mean, the ultimate issue here is to protect our children more and 
to give more control of family life back to parents. I don't think many 
parents want their children to start smoking. And parents, not 
advertising, should control that. Children should have a chance to learn 
within the family unit, within the school, within the churches, within 
the community, without being bombarded by all kinds of destructive 
messages that will knock them off track. So ultimately, this is an 
effort that will give some dimension of real control and values back to 
the family, which is what we want to do.
    Well, I'd like to spend the rest of the time listening to you. We 
could start--Donna, how should we do it?

[Two participants described doing a survey in their neighborhood on 
tobacco sales to underage children, and they related their experiences 
of how easy it was to buy cigarettes.]

    The President. Out of the places you went, how many carded you and 
how many sold?

[The young people said that about 60 percent of merchants sold them 
tobacco. One of the participants said she had surveyed 50 stores.]

    The President. Fifty?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Wow.

[The young people said that they tried 12 vending machines and got 
cigarettes from 11 of them. Secretary Shalala then introduced the 
president of the PTA at Robinson High School who discussed their efforts 
to have vending machines removed.]

    The President. Let me say, all of you are from Virginia. Hasn't the 
Virginia--isn't there a new proposal before the Virginia legislature to 
take much stronger positions. And I--all I know is what I've read about 
them, but it appeared to me that they were really moving in the right 
direction.
    Q. One is, as far as carding.
    The President. What does it do?
    Q. You will have to picture photo I.D. in order to purchase. That 
one will work. But for all intents and purposes, right now I'm afraid 
that the vending machine one is getting watered down.
    The President. In Virginia when you get a driver's license, do they 
put your picture on it?
    Q. Yes, sir.

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[The participants added that they doubted that the Virginia law would do 
away with vending machines.]

    The President. Well, one of the proposals that we are considering, 
that's being considered here by the FDA, is the question of whether 
there should be no vending machines in any place that children have 
access to. If you're going to have vending machines, maybe they should 
just be where only adults can come in.

[A participant said that advertising for tobacco seems to be increasing 
and especially in African-American and Latin-American neighborhoods. He 
concluded that there were two anti-tobacco initiatives before the City 
Council in the District of Columbia and asked for the President's help 
in getting them passed.]

    The President  I didn't know that. Thank you for telling that. I'll 
see what we can do about it.
    Q.  You're a resident.
    The President. Let me just say one thing about the advertising. I 
have said this before, but I want to reiterate. If anyone doubts the 
impact of the advertising on the children, you have only to look at the 
evidence that children are much more likely to buy the three most 
heavily advertised brands than adults are. Adults are more likely to 
shop, buy generic brands, cut their costs, you know. Kids go right to 
the advertised brands. I think it's something like 85 percent of all 
cigarettes sold to young people are the three most heavily advertised 
brands.

[A participant said that people marketing cigarettes claim to be trying 
to get smokers to switch brands, but he believed if the ads were strong 
enough to overcome brand loyalty, they were strong enough to convince 
children to smoke. Another participant said she thought that 
advertisement encouraged peer pressure.]

    The President.  That's what her letter to me says, ``I'm glad you're 
trying to stop teens and other people from smoking. There are already 
enough people dying from diseases, and I don't want any more people to 
die from diseases. I think these are the diseases you die from, like 
lung cancer, throat cancer and other diseases caused by smoking. What 
I'm trying to say is, please stop young people and teenagers from 
smoking. We are tomorrow's future.'' Good for you. Good luck.

[A participant described being caught smoking by the school security 
guard who took their cigarettes and gave them a ticket, resulting in a 
visit to the court. Her mother described the Smokeless Saturdays program 
in which the principal offers the parents of children caught smoking a 
choice between a 3-day suspension or participating in the Smokeless 
Saturdays program.]

    The President. Let me ask you something. Do the young people in your 
school who smoke believe that it's dangerous?

[A participant said that they really don't care.]

    The President. They just don't think about it one way or the other--
--
    Q. No.
    The President. I wanted to ask another question, if I might, because 
I want to--this is relevant, I think, to the PTA concerns. Do the 
schools in your school district, do they have programs like, for grade 
schoolers, which show pictures of lungs in people who have smoked for a 
long time and all that? Are those programs in the schools?

[A participant said that in Fairfax County they have created coalitions 
of businesses, churches, communities, and schools. She described a 
meeting with children and parents where they showed graphic slides and 
videos on drug abuse and driving while intoxicated.]

    The President. The thing that made the biggest impression on our 
daughter when she was in grade school was--and Hillary and I talked to 
her about this--the thing that made the biggest impression on her was a 
class she had where they just showed them pictures of lungs in 
progression.
    And you know, she saw all these black lungs, and it made this vivid 
impression. And my mother had smoked all her life, practically, since 
she was a teenager. She started as a teenager, as most people do. And my 
daughter kept telling her what her lungs looked like--this 8-year-old 
beating up on her grandmother. And for her 8th birthday,

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my mother stopped smoking. That was her gift to her granddaughter for 
her 8th birthday.
    But that's why I asked you, because I thought it made a real 
impression on the children in the class. That's why I asked you that.

[A participant said that with the high drop-out rate in large cities 
many children would miss classroom training but still need to be 
reached.]

    The President. That sort of thing, I think you've got to do that 
early.

[Several participants described school programs, and advocated starting 
early and making the children aware of the short-term consequences.]

    The President. One of the biggest problems we have in our country, 
and one problem I have as President, and one problem everybody who's in 
a position of any kind of responsibility has--is dealing with the 
tension every human being has between thinking about what's happening 
right this second, and what's right to do over the long run. And in the 
world we live in the wonderful thing about it is that we get some much 
information about so many things so fast, in ways we never did before, 
we have so many options we never had before. It's a very exciting time 
to be alive, but it's also true that people are just being constantly 
bombarded with all these things. And I think when you're a young person 
it's just harder to believe that every little thing you do has a 
consequence over the long run.
    And that's a problem for--it's been a problem throughout human 
history. It's part of human nature. But I think it's more difficult for 
young people today and particularly on this issue, which is why I think 
these groups are so important. All of your efforts really count. And I 
think that maybe the young people here, maybe that's the most important 
thing of all. I mean, I can't--does the peer pressure seem to work? Do 
you think you have any influence over your classmates?
    Q. It's worth a try.
    Q. Us?
    The President. Yes. Do they think you're kind of loony, or do they 
think you're doing something good?

[One participant said that they had no friends who smoke but that she 
could convince them to quit. Another participant indicated that it is 
not that easy.]

    The President. To convince people?

[A participant said he tried to find out how people started. He then 
started working with elementary school-age children, teaching about the 
harmful effects of tobacco products.]

    The President. Let me ask a question. Why did you get into this? Why 
do you care so much about this?

[The participant said that his godmother died of a smoking-related 
illness and that made him decide to stay away from drugs and to try to 
help his friends avoid having to deal with what he had to deal with.]

    The President. What about you?

[A participant said that she got involved because she found smoking 
really disgusting, especially since it kills so many people.]

    The President. You were great, all of you. This is very encouraging. 
I'll do what I can to support you. We'll keep working on it. We'll do it 
together.

1996 Election

    Q. Mr. President, can we have your thoughts on the Iowa caucuses 
today? This is an historic day, obviously, for the American people. One 
specific thought: Did you think a year ago you would be unopposed for 
the Democratic Presidential nomination?
    The President. I don't know what I thought a year ago. I don't know 
if I thought about it. I hope I'll win tonight. [Laughter] That's my 
thought on the Iowa caucuses. I hope, as I told--you know, 4 years ago, 
there was effectively no campaign in Iowa because Senator Harkin ran 
and, as he well should have, he got almost all the votes there. And 
today, because there appears to be effectively no race in the Democratic 
caucus primary, I don't know how many people will go tonight. But I hope 
that the trip over the weekend made an impact. And I believe it did.
    I was, frankly, astonished by the size and the enthusiasm of the 
crowds and by the response to just a serious discussion of the is- 

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sues facing the country and my determination to not let this election 
divide the American people and also, not to let the citizens of this 
country off the hook by saying, ``Oh, I'm cynical. It doesn't make any 
difference.''
    Look at these kids. These children here--especially this young lady 
who was brave enough to come--[inaudible]--they are a stunning rebuke to 
the idea that it does not matter what ordinary citizens do in this 
country. It does matter what ordinary people do. These kids wrote a 
letter to the President, they get to come in here and talk about it. And 
it shows you what people can do if they work together. And so that's 
what I think people in Iowa responded to.
    I was exuberant about the weekend, I thought it was very good. I 
don't know what's going to happen in the Republican caucus. I don't have 
any idea. As you all know, the nature of the rules and the size of the 
turnout has a lot to do with that. So I really don't have a clue what's 
going to happen.

Peace Process in Northern Ireland

    Q. Mr. President, are you concerned that the British are no longer 
going to deal with Mr. Adams of Sinn Fein?
    The President. Well, let me say this, I think that all the parties 
are probably assessing and reassessing where they are and what is 
necessary to do now, but I intend to do whatever I can on behalf of the 
United States to try to restore the cease-fire and try to get the peace 
process going again.
    I can tell you this: I believe if you let the Catholics and 
Protestants in Northern Ireland have a say in this, it wouldn't be 
close. They do not want to go back to violence. They want to go forward 
to peace, and they expect the people who are representing them to be 
disciplined and mature and to peacefully work this out. That's what they 
expect to be done. And I just hope and pray it can be done.
    And I've been working--actually, I did some work last week before 
the cease-fire was broken, and I intend to do some more work this week 
on it. We will do everything we can to try to get the process back on 
track.
    Q. Do you think Gerry Adams can still be trusted after what happened 
in the last few days?
    The President. I said what I thought about what happened the last 
few days. We're going to look at all the evidence. We're going to see 
what we know and what we can do, and I'm going to do what I think is 
best to try to promote peace there. That's what I'm going to do. And 
that's all I can do.
    Thank you.

1996 Election

    Q. Are you curious about what Republican candidate is going to 
emerge?
    The President. [Laughter] Well, I expect I'll know something by what 
happens in Iowa tonight. At least if the results are clear before 
bedtime. I'm just like you; I honestly don't know what's going to 
happen. And I have found it's not very fruitful to spend your time 
speculating on things over which you have no influence. And I have no 
intention of participating in the Republican primary. I'll let them 
decide who they want to run.
    Q. Do you like watching them fight it out among themselves.
    The President. Well, I don't know how to answer that. [Laughter]
    Thank you.

Note: The roundtable began at 1:27 p.m. in the Oval Office. In his 
remarks, the President referred to Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams.