[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 30, Number 29 (Monday, July 25, 1994)]
[Pages 1485-1490]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]
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The President's News Conference With European Union Leaders in Berlin,
Germany
July 12, 1994
President Kohl. Mr. President of the United States, Mr. President of
the European Commission, ladies and gentlemen. First, I would like to
welcome you all very cordially in the Reichstag building in Berlin. I am
very happy, indeed, that the joint transatlantic dialog was conducted
here in Berlin with the delegations of the two gentlemen I just
welcomed.
This meeting, this dialog has taken place right after the G-7
meeting in Naples, the G-7 meetings which were attended by four member
states of the European Union and the President of the European
Commission. So, a number of issues we talked about today were, in fact,
issues that had been touched upon in Naples already to raise the issue
of Bosnia. In Naples we talked at length about the report of the contact
group, and we did, at the time, publish a number of statements.
The transatlantic partnership, that is the close cooperation between
the European Union and the United States of America, takes on special
importance at a time in which Europe is undergoing radical change. And I
think it's symbolic, indeed, that they're meeting today at the Reichstag
and that we talked about this topic today at the Reichstag, a site
within Germany where you just have to look out the window in order to
realize that a few yards away from where we are, the division of Germany
and Europe was reflected in the Wall, which is now gone. On this side of
the Wall we always felt, by contrast, a special closeness between and
among the Western democracies, a closeness, an affinity without which
the Wall would never have come down.
At the end of the cold war, with the fall of the Wall, Central and
Eastern Europeans now have a chance to determine their own fate freely
and openly. And that is why we shall call out to them from Berlin,
saying that the European-transatlantic community is not a closed group.
It depends on its effort and its sharing its free democratic ideas with
all who want it. And therefore, closer cooperation with the countries
with Eastern and Central Europe is a natural outgrowth of our talks
today.
We resolved, therefore, to set up a working group which, by the time
of the next transatlantic summit, which would be less than 10 months
from now, this summit would be chaired by the French Presidency, which
by that time would submit a draft containing coordinated procedures for
the United States and the European Union in intensifying relations with
the Central and Eastern European states.
All of us--and we talked about that today--must jointly remember
that we make a great deal to be done, and we must ask ourselves what can
we do in order to secure the free and democratic ways of the United
States and the European Union and to protect them from the increasing
stress emanating from organized crime and the drug mafia. We talked
about that, too, today. And we talked about setting up a working group
that will deal with these issues. And at the end of our meeting this
morning we asked our staff to go right ahead and not only review the
situation but submit important programs as soon as possible.
And in conclusion, I would like to say that we plan to further
deepen and intensify the cooperation between the European Union member
states and the United States of America. We want to do it in every
possible way.
Yesterday I talked about the German-American relations, and I said
something which I could repeat with a somewhat different emphasis.
For decades we talked about the transatlantic bridge ensuring our
security. We
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know today that we have to add a couple of components to that bridge. We
have to add the components of economic cooperation, cooperation in the
cultural area, and cooperation also in the area of bringing our young
people closer together. And in that sense I think today's dialog has
opened up a number of prospects for our future work, and we're going to
act accordingly.
President Delors. Ladies and gentlemen, as the Chancellor has just
said to you, this meeting which is taking place in the context of the
Transatlantic Declaration has made it possible for us, I hope, at least,
to inject a more practical and operational substance into relations
between the United States and the European Union and this, of course,
without creating any new bureaucracy.
Chancellor Kohl has indicated to you the two points on which there
will be a joint followup: first, the development of the countries of
Central and Eastern Europe and, secondly, the fight against organized
crime and drug trafficking.
Moreover, we shall pursue our dialog on economic matters which we
began with President Clinton in January on the occasion of our last
meeting. We shall continue this, thanks to the successful holding by the
American authorities at the Detroit conference. We shall seek to fight
against unemployment, making possible for everyone to have a worthwhile
job in society so that there should also be a greater prosperity in what
is an increasingly interdependent world. We have to work together, and
we shall do this in the followup to the Naples summit by organizing in
Brussels a new conference on the Detroit model, devoted to the
information society--what we, the United States and Europe, can expect
of this in terms of the creation of jobs, in terms of the consequences
on the organization of work and on the very organization of society. And
of course, in order to prepare for this, we will have to look at what we
have to do in terms of education and life-long training, in terms of the
organization of our towns and cities in particular, as well.
And finally, you know that Naples, at the request of President
Clinton, the 7 decided to devote particular attention to Ukraine. An
amount was even set at the request of President Clinton, an amount
evaluated as being what should be given in the form of aid. And today,
we decided to monitor the situation together as a result of the
Presidential elections so that on the basis of a joint examination we
should be able to help this country get out of its serious economic,
political, institutional, and social difficulty.
So you see that the Transatlantic Declaration has got to a new
phase, a more operational phase, and one of more friendly and tighter
relations.
Thank you.
President Clinton. Thank you very much, Chancellor Kohl and
President Delors. Ladies and gentlemen, the United States strongly
supports the European Union. Throughout my entire administration I have
advocated the cause of the European Union. I believe our best partner,
as we look toward the 21st century for prosperity and for peace, is a
Europe united in democracy, in free markets, in common security. We have
supported that, and we will continue to support it.
We agreed here today to try to do something that is potentially of
real significance in terms of this developing partnership between the
United States and the EU and that is to set up a group of experts who
can put some framework, some meat on the bones of our declarations on
two areas. And you've heard them mentioned already, but I want to
reemphasize them.
The first is the need to strengthen our cooperation and coordination
in our support for reform and democracy in Central and Eastern Europe.
That is all the more important, I think, to all of us in view of the
difficulties and challenges these nations are facing, and certainly it's
been vividly impressed upon me on my recent trips to Latvia and to
Poland.
The second thing that we agreed to do is to coordinate better our
efforts in dealing with security issues and especially with organized
crime, drug-trafficking, money-laundering. These things now know no
national borders. The FBI Director from the United States, Mr. Freeh,
just recently made what was a highly acclaimed trip, first to Berlin and
then going on to Moscow. President Yeltsin was very intent on following
this up when we met with him in Naples. We think this is one area that
we can work together
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on and really do something that will benefit the citizens of our
nations, in Europe and in the United States.
Finally, let me just say that I want to particularly applaud
President Delors for the white paper he issued on jobs and growth in the
European Union that complemented and gave so much energy to the jobs
conference we held in Detroit. We talked quite a bit today about how we
can further develop our cooperation to generate more jobs and higher
incomes.
And I will just close with this point. There are a lot of people who
really believe that there is simply a limit to the ability of wealthy
countries to generate jobs and incomes as we move toward the 21st
century and there's so much more global economic competition. I do not
believe that, not if we're committed to adapting our work forces, not if
we're committing to expanding the barriers--I mean, tearing down the
barriers to trade and expanding trade--and to the new technologies that
will permit exponential growth, like the information superhighway and
environmental technology. So we had a very good meeting; I'm very
satisfied with it. I feel finally now we have not only recognized the
fact of European Union and our cooperation but actually developed a
system in which we can do things together that will make a difference to
the ordinary citizens of our country.
German Armed Forces
Q. How do they feel about the decision just handed down by the
German high court permitting German armed forces to participate in
peacekeeping operations outside the country?
President Kohl. First, I'll have to ask you, understanding for the
fact that I can't really assess the ruling because, after all, in Berlin
here I don't know all the details involving the ruling. But I'm very
happy about that ruling; there's no doubt about it, because it indicates
very clearly that the highest German court, which is the guardian of our
constitution, has determined that one of the missions would be in
accordance with our constitutions. I've always argued that; my
government has always argued that.
We were given an indication by the court that such a mission would
require a simple majority in the Bundestag. That's not very surprising
to me, either, because I cannot imagine how any head of government of
the Federal Republic would initiate such a mission without having the
appropriate majority in the Parliament.
So I think what was decided there is fully in accordance with the
constitution and with the view of the federal government. What's going
to come out of that in the future is something that we'll have to
examine in each individual case on a case-by-case basis.
If you look at the history during this century, especially German
history, you'll have to pay some attention to that. But we are members
of the United Nations. And if we claim the rights that membership
entails, we will have to live up to our responsibilities. I think it's
unacceptable and not in line with the dignity of our country for us to
stand aside and refuse to take on responsibility. So I'm happy about the
ruling. But that's really not the main issue for the press conference.
One more question and then we will ask our guests.
Q. Mr. Chancellor, couldn't you say a little more about the criteria
which the federal armed forces will base its missions on? France has
requested that the Eurocorps might be sent to Africa. Is that something
you have in mind? What would be the concrete repercussions as far as
German foreign policy is concerned?
President Kohl. I've given a great deal of thought to this; I've
thought in concrete terms. But please understand this is a very
fundamental and important question, and I would prefer to talk with my
colleagues in the cabinet about the ruling as a whole, and then we'll
make a public statement. It makes no sense for you to keep on asking
questions as to ``What will you do if''; I won't say anything on that.
There you go.
Haiti
Q. Then, Mr. President, may I ask you about what your administration
has called a serious escalation in Haiti and whether you feel that this
now moves us closer to a military option, whether this makes it much
more difficult for international observers of any
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kind to know what is really happening on the ground there.
President Clinton. Well, let me say, first of all, that what
happened in Haiti yesterday puts in stark relief the human rights abuses
that we have been talking about for some time now, the killing, the
maiming, the rapes. Throwing the monitors out is just the latest
expression of the desperation of that illegal regime and their desire to
hide their conduct.
All I can say today is that I hope that this action will stiffen the
will of the international community to support the United States in the
strongest possible enforcement of the sanctions, including freezing the
assets of the military and the elites supporting them. We have got to
bring an end to this, and I think that, surely to goodness, the throwing
out of the monitors will illustrate to the whole world that what we have
been saying all along is true: This is not only an illegal but a highly
oppressive regime, and we have to keep the pressure up.
Q. Mr. President, to follow, do you think that that will make it
easier to make your case if it turns out that you do have to take the
military route?
President Clinton. Well, I think it certainly validates the position
I've taken so far, that that is an option we shouldn't rule out.
Q. Regarding Haiti, as you know, most of the generals at the
Pentagon say it would not be a difficult operation to go in and
overthrow the military regime there. What they're concerned about is an
exit strategy, that the U.S. would not have to keep forces there for a
prolonged period of time, that there would be other countries willing to
participate in some sort of peacekeeping operation.
Do you have any assurances there are other countries that would be
willing to go in after a U.S. invasion to help out, and did you get any
assurances from the European allies?
President Clinton. Well, let me just say that there are two issues;
there have always been two issues there. One is the one you have just
outlined, which is that the last time the United States went to Haiti we
stayed for, I think, 19 years. And that is a totally inappropriate thing
to do in a world in which international organizations exist and,
particularly, a United Nations exists for the purpose of working with
countries in trouble that need help.
Are there nations who have said that they would be a part of a
United Nations mission? Yes, there are. But that leads you to the second
question, which is that the United States has always--and we talked
about this way back in May--the United States has always been basically
moving back and forth between a Monroe Doctrine-type approach for 200
years, in the Caribbean and Latin America, and a good neighbor-type
approach.
The people of Latin America, the people of the Caribbean obviously
want us to cooperate with them; they want us to be friends and
neighbors. They know we're the biggest country in the region. They want
any kind of unilateral action by the United States to come only as a
last resort. And they have reservations about it as you would expect
they would. So Mr. Gray, one of the things that he has been doing so
well is to try to consult with all of our partners and friends in the
region and to try as far as we possibly can to, first of all, explore
all alternatives and, secondly, have everyone going in lockstep and let
everyone know what the United States intention and objective is. Our
only objective is to restore democracy in Haiti and stop those poor
people from being killed and tortured and raped and starved and
basically deprived of the decency of an ordinary life.
German Leadership
Q. Mr. President, please permit me, a German journalist, to revisit
a question that has to do with Germany taking on a greater role, taking
more responsibility in the world. On that point, you are in agreement
with Chancellor Kohl. Now, does the idea of German armed forces being
involved in peacekeeping missions outside NATO, does that mean that you
are totally comfortable with that? Aren't you the least bit
uncomfortable thinking about that? And could it also mean that you could
imagine German forces being involved in missions of the kind we had 2
years ago in the Gulf, for instance? Would that be all right?
President Clinton. I am completely comfortable with that. And of
course, I can envision German forces being involved in some-
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thing like the United Nations effort in the Gulf. Why? Because of the
leadership of Germany, because of the conduct of Germany, because of the
role Germany has played in developing the European Union, because of the
values Germany has demonstrated in taking of hundreds of thousands of
refugees from Bosnia. Germany, now united is--yes, it's the largest
country in Europe in terms of population and its economic strength. But
Germany has been the leader in pushing for the integration of Europe,
for the sharing of power among the European nations, and for setting a
standard for humane conduct and support for democracy and diversity. So,
the answer to that question is, yes, I am comfortable with it.
President Kohl. One minute, I would like to add something, if I may.
I feel a tendency here among you to somehow apply the constitutional
court decision to the--[inaudible]. Since that is so, I would like to
say that we will be deciding on the case-by-case basis with the majority
in Parliament and that following the court's ruling, we are not feeling
that the Germans are now rushing to the front. I'd like to say that
emphatically, because I know my fellow citizens, some of my fellow
citizens and I think it's therefore an important statement for me to
make.
President Clinton. Maybe I could make one little statement about
this. I think all of us want to play a constructive role where we can.
But we have learned not only the potential but also the limits of
military power in the 20th century. And the United Nations is trying to
work through what can be done on a humanitarian basis, what can be done
in the way of peacekeeping a mission, what conditions have to exist in
countries in order for peacekeeping missions to succeed. So I think it
is important that the German people, the American people, any others
paying attention to this press conference, not believe that there is
some cavalier eagerness to use military power in an undisciplined way
which might cause a lot of problems.
President Kohl. Thank you.
North Korea
Q. Mr. President, I wanted to ask if you have any news for us today
on the situation in North Korea, if anything has changed, and whether
you have any response to comments that have been made in the U.S. that
there possibly is a sense by some in North Korea that the idea of
progressing toward progress on communication with the outside world
should be halted.
President Clinton. Well, we are watching it very closely. We are
concerned about what might happen, obviously. My position on that is the
same that it has been from the very beginning, that that is a decision
for them to make and their future is in their hands.
But we believe it is in their interest and in our interest for them
to continue to freeze the elements of their nuclear program and for us
to resume the talks. We hope that is what they will do. In the
meanwhile, we will monitor the facts in North Korea on the nuclear
program. That is where we are. The next move basically is in their
court.
Q. Do you have any feelings at all from anyone in the government at
this point, sir?
President Clinton. No, only the communications we've had in
Switzerland with regard to the talks. And those so far have been
satisfactory and not out of the ordinary. So we basically have no
indication one way or the other at this moment. So what we need to do is
to simply be vigilant, to simply--to look at the facts. And it's not
useful to speculate, I think, certainly not in a naive way that would be
excessively hopeful but also not in an unduly negative way. Let's just
look at the facts and judge this situation based on the facts as they
develop.
NATO Expansion
Q. You agree then that relations with the Central Eastern European
countries should be improved. Given that fact, do you think the timeline
of Poland being a member by 2000 is realistic? Do you think that's a
realistic prospect to hold out?
President Clinton. I'd like to make two points in response to that
question. First of all, Chancellor Kohl and I have discussed this a bit
and in our personal meetings. The NATO members themselves will have to
get together and begin to discuss what the timeline ought to be and what
the criteria for membership ought to be.
But the first and most important thing to do is to make a success of
the Partnership
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For Peace. The Partnership For Peace, I think it's fair to say, has
succeeded already beyond the expectations of those of us who proposed it
at the first of the year. We have 21 nations signed up, 19 from the
republics of the former Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact countries; two,
Sweden and Finland, that were previously neutral are not involved in
NATO.
In order to sign up, all those countries agreed to respect each
other's borders and agreed to cooperate militarily to preserve the
integrity of those borders. We will have our first military exercises in
Poland in September. So that's my first point. I think we have to
strengthen the Partnership For Peace and discuss a timeline.
To the Poles I will say to you what I said to them directly: They
have certainly shown the greatest interest in this issue, the greatest
determination to do their full part, and I think have virtually assured
that they are at the front of the line as NATO will be expanded, which
it surely will be. We just have to get together and work out the
details. It's not for me as the American President to say what the
details should be.
President Clinton's Visit
Q. Mr. President, are you happy with the result of your visit to the
Baltic countries? What do you think the next step should be there for
that country getting rid of the Russian troops at long last?
President Clinton. Well, yes, I was very happy with my trip to the
Baltic and with the meeting I had with all three Presidents. I am
comfortable that in Latvia the Russian troops will be withdrawn by
August 31st and that the controversy over the citizenship law there is
being worked out, at least worked on.
In Estonia, I have passed along a message from President Meri to
President Yeltsin. In Naples, we discussed it in considerable detail in
our private meeting, and President Yeltsin promised that for the first
time he would actually meet personally with President Meri and make a
good faith effort to work this out. I still think that the troops could
be able to be withdrawn from Estonia, as well, by the end of August if
the last remaining disputes--there are three areas of disputes--could be
resolved. And we will continue to stay on top of that. We have agreed to
work together on encouraging a resolution to that, and I think it can be
done.
Note: The President's 66th news conference began at 11:15 a.m. in the
East Hall at Reichstag where he met with Chancellor Helmut Kohl in his
capacity as President, European Council, and Jacques Delors, President,
European Commission. Chancellor Kohl spoke in German, and President
Delors spoke in French, and their remarks were translated by an
interpreter. A tape was not available for verification of the content of
this news conference. This item was not received in time for publication
in the appropriate issue.