    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2007, Book I)]
    [June 9, 2007]
    [Pages 714-720]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    The President's News Conference With Prime Minister Romano Prodi of Italy in Rome
    June 9, 2007

        Prime Minister Prodi. Good afternoon, everyone. I am delighted to
    have received President Bush today, and I thank President Bush for
    having chosen to spend a couple of days in Rome for his European
    mission, a rather long European mission, I would say. And this is the
    first in his second term.
        Our talks today have been very, very interesting, indeed, very
    friendly talks. And I must say that we took the opportunity, in fact, to
    pursue some issues that we already began discussing in Heiligendamm.
    And, in fact, we had a bilateral meeting today and discussed some of the
    issues, as I said, that we already went over in Germany.
        We talked about climate change, energy, our fight against poverty,
    our Africa policies. These are all very, very important decisions and
    choices that we have to make and, of course, that are going to be
    important for the future, the next generation as well.
        We briefly went over some bilateral issues. Fortunately, we don't
    have any bilateral problems--I would say--no serious problems that have
    created any divisions between our two countries. And in particular, in
    fact, we do share the same views with regard to many issues, many
    matters. And we basically agree on how the future of the world should
    look, should be.
        Now, I thanked President Bush for some symbolic gestures that he has
    shown. Our countries are becoming closer and closer. And, in fact,
    Italian, the Italian language is one of the language that can be freely
    chosen in American schools. All high schools in America offer Italian as
    a language of study. And I think that this is a wonderful step, a
    wonderful way to bring two countries closer, especially when we consider
    that the flow of immigration between our two countries has stopped; it
    stopped a long time ago.
        Now, going on to other issues, of course, we agree that we need some
    new major players, new major world players, and we have to, in fact,
    work together with China, India, Brazil, Mexico. And we agree on that
    approach.
        We also talked about some meetings that we had with Mr. Lula and
    President Hu Jintao after the end of the G-8 summit. And we realize, as
    I've said, that we've

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    got to work more and more together. And I think that the progress that
    has been made by the United States in reaching an agreement, a broad
    agreement on climate change has been a wonderful step forward, and I
    think that this is taking us in the right direction. In other words, we
    have to work together on these issues.
        We haven't yet finalized some of the quantitative details of this
    agreement, but obviously, the underlying message is to work together, to
    cooperate. And I would say that maybe just a few months ago that seemed
    to be unlikely.
        Now, we also had a good discussion on other issues of common
    concern. We talked about Kosovo, for example, Lebanon, Afghanistan, and
    we spoke about some responsibilities that we should take on together. So
    both our countries should work together in order to restore peace and
    stability in these different areas of the world.
        We need to do more. We need to keep working together, especially
    when it comes to Middle Eastern issues. We know, of course, that we have
    not yet been able to put an end to the crisis which has been ongoing now
    for a number of years. And in Lebanon, in fact, the peace mission has
    certainly led to some positive outcomes; yet, there are still tensions;
    there are still many difficulties. And that's an open-ended issue,
    therefore, that we have to continue being concerned about.
        Now, that's what we discussed today. I don't wish to add any further
    remarks. I would like to give the floor right over to President Bush.
    And I thank you so very much for having come today, and I thank you for
    making it possible to cooperate together and, of course, for enabling
    this cooperation with success in the future. Thank you.
        President Bush. Buongiorno. Mr. Prime Minister, thank you.
    Laura and I are glad to be back in your beautiful
    country. Rome is a spectacular city. And I'm sorry we're disrupting
    traffic, but, nevertheless, it is great to be back here. Thank you for
    the wonderful meal, and thank you for our friendship. I think it's
    important for the people of your country to know, relations between our
    countries are strong, and we intend to keep them that way. And I
    appreciate that; I appreciate the good conversation we had.
        I thank you for your commitment to the people of Afghanistan. Your
    country has been an integral part of the NATO mission. You provided a
    lot of important troops for NATO; you're involved with the PRTs in
    Afghanistan. I thank you, but no more so than the Afghan people thank
    the people of Italy. These people are desperate to live in a free
    society, and you ought to take great pride, Romano, and I know you do,
    in making a significant contribution to their freedom. I also appreciate
    your very--your strong advice in making sure that we all understand this
    is not just a military operation, that there has to be a political track
    and a reconstruction track in order for this democracy to survive. And
    so I'm looking forward to continuing to work on this important issue.
        I thank you, as well, for your leadership in Lebanon. It was a year
    ago when we were at the G-8. You remember the attacks came on Israel,
    and then, all of a sudden, the situation began to look like it needed
    some help. And there was a lot of doubt in the world's mind until Italy
    stepped up and said: We will provide troops, and we'll be the military
    leader in Lebanon. And then the world followed. And I want to thank you
    for your leadership on that important issue.
        And now we've just got to make sure the Siniora Government survives. One of the best ways to do so is to
    insist that we proceed forward with the Hariri trial, to make sure that
    there are consequences for behavior that may affect the stability of a
    democracy. I don't want to prejudge the outcome of the trial, but I do
    think it's an important measure for all of us to see the truth in that
    part of the world.

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    And I know we can continue to work together. It's very important that
    foreign influences, like that of Syria, not be continually disrupting
    the Siniora Government.
        I want to thank you very much for our discussions on Kosovo. This is
    a part of the world you know a lot about, and Romano made some very
    significant contributions during the roundtable discussions at the G-8
    and was, again, very eloquent today about two things: One, that
    obviously, a deep concern about the Kosovars, their desire to be
    independent, coupled with making sure there is a avenue forward for
    Serbs through the EU and maybe NATO. And I appreciate your leading on
    this issue. It's important that the United States and Italy work
    together on common problems. After all, we share common values. And
    today's discussion just goes, at least, to show me how much we can do
    when we work in a collaborative way.
        As Romano said, the bilateral relations are pretty darn solid. And I
    appreciate that. There's a lot of Italian Americans who have got great
    pride for their homeland. They're watching this press conference--well,
    they may not be watching all of it, Romano, but they'll be watching some
    of it, and they're going to want to know, are we doing well? And the
    answer is, we are. And I'm grateful.
        Answer a couple of questions, or what do you think?
        Prime Minister Prodi. Yes.
        President Bush. Okay, yes.

    Italy-U.S. Relations

        Q. Mr. President, you just said that you had lunch with Prodi today.
    Then later you'll have a coffee break with Mr. Berlusconi. What do you
    enjoy most, the lunch or the coffee break? [Laughter] Or would you have
    preferred to be on a diet today? [Laughter]
        And to Prime Minister Prodi, now, I'm perhaps not going to be so
    ironic in my question. Now the friendship is wonderful. You've made
    progress. But I know that there have been some differences between the
    U.S. and Italy over the months, even though the friendship is solid and
    progress has been made. So President Bush is asking you to perhaps
    change your rules of engagement in Afghanistan, and even with regard to
    Iran, there are some differences of opinion and, in general, in the
    Middle East. So have you managed to close that gap a bit? Or how do you
    think you might be doing that in the future?
        President Bush. Yes, I'm going to have coffee with the former Prime
    Minister, Prime Minister Berlusconi. I'm
    doing so for a couple of reasons: One, he is the opposition leader; two,
    he is a friend. And I mentioned this to Romano, and his attitude was, I
    don't blame you; it's the kind of thing he does when he goes to other
    countries. And I'm looking forward to seeing Silvio. It's a--one
    shouldn't read anything into it, other than we made some decisions
    together. We've known each other for a while, just like I've known
    Romano--actually, I've known Romano a long time too. He was President of
    the EU early on in my Presidency. And so I consider it an honor to have
    friends with two important leaders here in Italy.
        Prime Minister Prodi. We spoke very frankly about many of the issues
    that you've just raised in your question. And, yes, there certainly is
    an active cooperation between us. And this is with regard to problems
    we've had in Afghanistan and, of course, the very difficult situation in
    Iran. And we both share the same position, the same views when--with
    regard to the danger that we are running if we allow the proliferation
    of nuclear weapons, and we also agree on the course of action that
    should be followed.
        So I think that in the future we'll certainly be able to work
    together, and we'll be able to exert pressure, both of us, on the
    Iranian Government. We don't want them to exceed the limits, as it were,
    of a peaceful and monitored or controlled use

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    of nuclear technology. So, this is our position, and, as I said, we
    share the same view.
        Now, of course, we also discussed other issues on our common agenda,
    and we were able to reiterate the fact that there is an interdependence
    here and a need to work together, not only because it is helpful or
    useful, but it is a strong need that we have to focus on to restore
    peace in the world.
        Now, we spoke about climate change, about global warming in our
    meetings over the past few days. And I think that this has somehow set
    out a course of action for the future: how we can perhaps harmonize our
    production systems; how we can make sure that our political decisions
    are, in fact, in conformity with these needs. And I think, again, that
    we'll definitely be able to make huge progress together.

    Pope Benedict XVI

        Q. Thank you, sir. Can you talk about your conversation with Pope
    Benedict earlier? Did you have a fundamental disagreement over whether
    Iraq was a just war? And what of his concerns about Iraq did you take to
    heart?
        And, if I could, to the Prime Minister: What did you tell the
    President today about the trials going on here involving Americans?
        President Bush. Jennifer [Jennifer Loven, Associated Press], I'll be
    glad to share some of the private conversation with His Holy Father.
    First, I'll give you an impression. I was talking to a very smart,
    loving man. And I--you know, after 6\1/2\ years of being the President,
    I've seen some unusual--I've been to some unusual places, and I've met
    some interesting people. And I was in awe, and it was a moving
    experience for me.
        We didn't talk about ``just war.'' He did express deep concern about
    the Christians inside Iraq, that he was concerned that the society that
    was evolving would not tolerate the Christian religion. And I assured
    him we're working hard to make sure that they--people lived up to the
    Constitution, that modern Constitution voted on by the people that would
    honor people from different walks of life and different attitudes.
        We talked about a lot of other subjects. We talked about our
    attempts to help the people in Africa deal with HIV/AIDS and malaria and
    hunger. I reminded him that we made a significant commitment to that
    end, that about 3 years ago, 50,000 people were getting antiretroviral
    drugs. Now over 1,100,000 people are getting them, as a result of our
    initiative on HIV/AIDS, and that I'm going to double that commitment--or
    ask Congress to double the commitment from 15 billion to 30 billion.
        I talked to him about our malaria program, about how we intend to
    reduce malaria by 50 percent in certain countries, and that I'd continue
    to remind the world of our duty to work together to achieve a major
    goal, which is to try to eradicate malaria throughout Africa.
        And I talked to him about our attempts to feed the hungry, and I
    also reminded him that we've got poor people in our own neighborhood
    that need to be affected.
        He talked about immigration. He's watching the immigration debate
    very closely in America. And I told him I was a person who strongly
    supports comprehensive immigration reform that, on the one hand, we'll
    enforce our law; on the other hand, we need to treat people with
    dignity. And we had a good discussion.
        Q. ----the Pope has said----
        President Bush. What?
        Q. The Pope has said Iraq was worrisome.
        President Bush. Yes, he's worrisome about the Christians inside Iraq
    being mistreated by the Muslim majority. He's deeply concerned about
    that, and we spent a lot--spent a fair amount of time talking about it.
        Prime Minister Prodi. We did not discuss the issue that you raised
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    just a moment ago. And I've already clarified many times that Italy, of
    course, is a democratic country. We have very clear-cut rules that we
    follow, and we, therefore, enforce our rules. And I am confident that
    there is no conflict here, in terms of our friendship and our
    cooperation with the United States.

    Italy-U.S. Relations/Kosovo/G-8 Summit in Heiligendamm, Germany

        Q. Thank you. You've just told us that you and President Bush have
    just returned from your G-8 summit. Now, the outcomes that have been
    stated on the many issues that you discussed--climate, development, and
    the missile shield--now, are those real--is that real progress, or not?
    And the deadline for the Kosovo independence----
        President Bush. What? Say that again.
        Q. Deadline for the Kosovo independence?
        President Bush. A decline?
        Q. Deadline, deadline.
        President Bush. Oh, a deadline--beg your pardon. My English isn't
    very good. [Laughter]
        Q. Sorry. And do you wish that President Prodi will pay a visit to
    you in Washington in the next months?
        President Bush. Yes, and yes.
        Q. What kind of deadline?
        President Bush. I'd love to welcome the Prime Minister. And it--
    we're just going to have to work through our schedules, but he's invited
    any time. Listen, Italy is a great friend. There are millions of people
    in our country who love Italy because that's where their heritage is
    from. My Ambassador's grandfather was from
    Italy. I'm sure you know this, but the heritage, the Italian heritage,
    is a powerful part of our country and its culture. And the Prime
    Minister is welcome.
        In terms of the deadline, there needs to be one. This needs to come;
    this needs to happen. Now it's time, in our judgment, to move the
    Ahtisaari plan. There was a--there's been a
    series of delays. You might remember: There was a moment when something
    was happening, and they said, no, we need a little more time to try to
    work through a U.N. Security Council resolution. And our view is that
    time is up.
        And so we're working with our friends and allies, and I had a long
    discussion with Vladimir Putin on the
    subject. To share with you my thoughts, what I told him there at the
    table was, ``It's time, it's time to bring this issue to a head.'' And
    obviously, there's deep concern about what that would mean, whether he'd
    accept it, or not. I understand that. But the Kosovars are eagerly
    anticipating a decision by the world.
        And at the same time, Romano is right, we need to make sure that the
    Serbs see a way forward. And one good way forward is through,
    potentially, EU membership. I don't have that much to say in it, but I
    can talk to the Serbs about economic development and can talk about a
    better relationship with the United States. And therefore, we will.
        Prime Minister Prodi. Going back to the summit, I can say that it
    has been an actual success, real progress, in other words. I mean, just
    think; people were expecting a rift, problems, arguments, and, instead,
    we did reach some important conclusions. Now, even the issue of global
    warming, for example, we realize that there is a predominant, a
    prevalent principle, and that is that global issues have to be dealt
    with globally. In fact, we all talk about the Kyoto Protocol, for
    example, and we said that this was the first step towards international
    cooperation in this field, in this sector.
        Now, again, we still have some technicalities to work out; some
    little pieces there are missing, as it were. But definitely there is a
    clear-cut will to move forward. We have a resolve there; India, China,
    Brazil, Mexico, everyone has shown the same resolve. There were other
    countries in addition to these; even though they're not G-8 members,
    they're all there to work on global solutions because this is the only
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    we can possibly reach some kind of equilibrium in the future.
        Now, with regard to the other issues--Kosovo, for example, and our
    relations with Russia--well, I would say that during our meeting, there
    was a certain ambiance. We talked about interdependence. I think that's
    a good way of putting it. We didn't feel any tensions, but rather we
    were all seeking this--a way to strengthen our interdependence. And I
    think that this is something that should be guiding us in our relations
    with Russia, and this is how we can build up a peaceful system for the
    future.
        Those are the goals of the G-8. In fact, G-8 summits don't always
    have technical agendas that are predefined, predetermined. That's not
    how it works. We need to meet and to freely discuss some of these long-
    term issues. So we were able to do that very freely, very openly. And I
    must say that we all agreed on our future course of action, and I think
    that we couldn't have hoped for any better than that.
        Now, with regard to Kosovo, again, now we know how to move forward,
    after our discussions there. And I think that that, basically, I mean,
    we couldn't have hoped for any better outcome than that there.

    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

        Q. Thank you, sir. Mr. President: General Pace, an Italian
    American--Pace, as you know, is leaving--a distinguished marine, with a
    lengthy career, somebody that all indications are, you and Secretary
    Gates enjoyed working with a great deal--is on his way out. And I wonder
    what this says about the political climate in Washington, that it was
    decided that maybe it would be better to have a new Chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs, rather than have a bruising battle on Capitol Hill.
        President Bush. Yes. Pete Pace is a fine man
    and a great general. And I think the fact that Secretary Gates made the recommendation not to move forward with a
    renomination speaks to the U.S. Congress and the climate in the U.S.
    Congress.
        Pete Pace always gave me candid advice. Pete
    Pace is an excellent strategic thinker. And the interesting thing about
    Pete Pace, even though he had four stars on his shoulder, always talked
    about the private. He speculated out loud about Private Pace: What would
    Private Pace think of this decision? What would Private Pace's families
    think about a decision that he was recommending to me?
        And so the decision has been made, and I'm going to miss him. And
    the country owes him a great debt of gratitude
    for years of service, first at Vice Chairman and then as Chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff.
        Thank you all.
        Prime Minister Prodi. Thank you.
        President Bush. Thank you. Thank you for that ovation. They must
    have been yelling, ``Brilliant answer.''

    Note: The President's news conference began at 3:48 p.m. at Chigi
    Palace. In his remarks, he referred to Prime Minister Fuad Siniora of
    Lebanon; former President Martti Ahtisaari of Finland, United Nations
    Special Envoy of the Secretary-General for the Future Status Process of
    Kosovo; President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia; and Secretary of Defense
    Robert M. Gates. Prime Minister Prodi referred to President Luiz Inacio
    Lula da Silva of Brazil; and President Hu Jintao of China. Prime
    Minister Prodi and some reporters spoke in Italian, and their remarks
    were translated by an interpreter.

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