    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2006, Book II)]
    [November 17, 2006]
    [Pages 2093-2096]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    Remarks Following Discussions With Prime Minister John Howard of Australia and an Exchange With Reporters in Hanoi,
    Vietnam
    November 17, 2006

        President Bush. I just had an enjoyable lunch with my friend John
    Howard. We talked about a variety of subjects. I talked to John about
    Iraq. I appreciate the Australian contributions to helping this young
    democracy succeed. There's a lot of questions, I know, in the press
    around the world about our troop posture and about the attitudes of our
    Government. I assured John that we will get the job done. We will
    continue to help this Maliki Government meet the aspirations of the
    Iraqi people.
        And that--I'm sure there's some questions by the Australian press
    about what the elections mean. The elections mean that the American
    people want to know whether or not we have a plan for success, and
    that--and I assured John that any repositioning of troops, if that's
    what we choose to do, will be done in close consultation with John and
    his Government. But I also assured him that we're not leaving until this
    job is done, until Iraq can govern, sustain, and defend itself.
        We talked about the climate. John has got some very strong ideas
    about the use of technologies to enable countries like our own and the
    rest of the world to be able to grow and, at the same time, protect the
    environment. And I appreciated his views. And I share those views. I
    assured him that we will continue to spend research dollars to develop
    technologies such as clean coal technologies, something that Australia
    is interested in, or the use of ethanol, for example, to power our
    automobiles, or money spent to develop hydrogen fuel cells, all aimed at
    changing our energy habits and, at the same time, protecting the
    environment.
        We talked about the neighborhood that Australia is in. I always
    admire John's strategic vision of the world. I really appreciate the
    chance to have lunch with you.
        Prime Minister Howard. Well, thank you very much, George. We did
    cover all of those subjects, and we spent a lot of time, naturally,
    talking about Iraq. Our views are very similar. It's not easy, but we
    hold to the view, and I've said it back in Australia, and I'd repeat it
    here today, that the idea of the coalition leaving in circumstances
    where the Iraqi people were not soon to be able to look after themselves
    and to enjoy the democracy they want would be a catastrophic defeat for
    our cause, not only in the Middle East, but it would embolden terrorists
    in that region. And it would embolden terrorism in countries like
    Indonesia.
        Our discussions about climate change were very valuable. Our
    thinking is similar. We don't believe that Kyoto is the answer. Both our
    countries are committed to dealing with the growth of greenhouse gasses.
    We can have debate about the severity of the problem, but there's really
    no debate about the desirability of responding to it, provided we do it
    in a way that maintains economic growth in our societies and the world.
        And we certainly have a similarity of commitment to doing things in
    the area of technology. And I indicated to the President that Australia
    is looking very seriously at the place of nuclear power in our own
    response. And the Australian media will be aware of the upcoming
    Switkowski report that is going to deal with the whole question of
    nuclear power in the overall equation.
        President Bush. We'll answer a couple of questions. Jennifer
    [Jennifer Loven, Associated Press]. Hold on for a second, please.
    Jennifer.

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    Vietnam-U.S. Relations

        Q. Thank you, sir. What does it mean to you personally and what do
    you think it means to other Americans who experienced some of the
    turbulence of the Vietnam war that you're here now, talking cooperation
    and peace with a former enemy?
        President Bush. You know, Laura and I were
    talking about--we were talking about how amazing it is we're here in
    Vietnam. And one of the most poignant moments of the drive in was
    passing the lake where John McCain got pulled
    out of the lake. And he's a friend of ours. He suffered a lot as a
    result of his imprisonment, and yet we passed the place where he was,
    literally, saved, in one way, by the people pulling him out.
        I guess my first reaction is, history has a long march to it and
    that societies change and relationships can constantly be altered to the
    good. And I'm looking forward to my meetings with the President and the Prime Minister here shortly. I found it really interesting, for example,
    that the Prime Minister's children were educated in the United States.
    The Prime Minister of Vietnam, who, as I understand it, was part of the
    Viet Cong, sends his children to our country to get educated, and one of
    his children ended up marrying a Vietnamese American. And it shows how
    hopeful the world can be and how people can reconcile and move beyond
    past difficulties for the common good.
        Vietnam is an exciting place. It's a place with an enormous future,
    and they obviously have got to work through difficulties like religious
    freedom, for example, but nevertheless, there's certainly a new
    hopefulness to this country. And so I'm--thought a lot about what it was
    like, what my impressions of Vietnam were growing up, and here I am in
    this country today, and I guess my answer is, it's very hopeful.

    Democracy Efforts in Iraq

        Q. Are there lessons here for the debate over Iraq?
        President Bush. I think one thing--yes, I mean, one lesson is, is
    that we tend to want there to be instant success in the world, and the
    task in Iraq is going to take a while. But I would make it beyond just
    Iraq. I think the great struggle we're going to have is between radicals
    and extremists versus people who want to live in peace, and that Iraq is
    a part of the struggle. And it's just going to take a long period of
    time to--for the ideology that is hopeful, and that is an ideology of
    freedom, to overcome an ideology of hate. Yet the world that we live in
    today is one where they want things to happen immediately.
        And it's hard work in Iraq. That's why I'm so proud to have a
    partner like John Howard who understands it's difficult to get the job
    done. We'll succeed unless we quit. The Maliki Government is going to make it unless the coalition leaves
    before they have a chance to make it. And that's why I assured the Prime
    Minister we'll get the job done.
        Do you want to ask somebody?

    Australia-U.S. Cooperation on Iraq

        Q. Mr. President, did the Prime Minister raise any new ideas on Iraq
    during your talks? Can you tell us what they are, and will you be taking
    them up?
        President Bush. The Prime Minister's main concern was that we
    consult closely together. And I assured him that's going to be the case.
    That's the way it has been throughout this war on terror. We value
    Australia's commitments; I value John Howard's advice. And when our
    deliberations are complete--and as you may or may not know, we've got a
    lot of people looking at different tactical adjustments--once I make up
    my mind what those will be, I'll share it with him right off the bat.
        Let's see here, yes, Steve [Steve Holland, Reuters].

    U.S. Armed Forces in Iraq

        Q. You mentioned troop postures in Iraq. There's a report that you
    may want to send

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    30,000 additional troops to Iraq. Is that something----
        President Bush. Where was that report?
        Q. In the Guardian newspaper.
        President Bush. The Guardian newspaper? Well, I don't read that
    paper often. But I--look, I'm going to listen to our commanders, Steve.
    Ours is a condition-based strategy, and Pete Pace
    is conducting a thorough study--he's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
    John Abizaid has got some ideas, and
    the Baker-Hamilton commission is looking. I want to hear from Democrats on
    Capitol Hill what their views may be. I want to hear from my fellow
    Republicans on Capitol Hill. And then I'll make up my mind. So I'm not
    aware of the Guardian article.
        Q. Can I ask another question?
        President Bush. Sure, since you fumbled that question. You might
    get--let Gregory [David Gregory, NBC News] substitute for you.

    North Korea

        Q. Are you getting sufficient cooperation from South Korea on North
    Korea? And will this be something you talk to them about tomorrow?
        President Bush. Oh, absolutely. I'll remind----
        Q. ----they're not following through on the sanctions as hard as
    they could have.
        President Bush. I'll, of course, talk to the South Korean
    President about implementing the United Nations
    Security Council resolution. I'll talk to Vladimir Putin, Hu Jintao, and Prime Minister
    Abe as well. I'm meeting with all our partners in
    the six-party talks.
        The APEC is an important summit; it's an important opportunity to
    talk about the importance of free trade. But it's also important to give
    us a chance to talk about other issues, and a key issue that John and I,
    by the way, talked about is going to be North Korea. We have a chance to
    solve this issue peacefully and diplomatically. It's important for the
    world to see that the Security Council resolutions which were passed are
    implemented. So part of my discussions will be how we fully implement
    those sanctions that the world has asked for, but also, it's a chance to
    set the conditions right so that the six-party talks will succeed. North
    Korea, as you know, has decided to come back to the table, and it gives
    us a chance to solve this problem peacefully.

    Military Tribunals

        Q. Mr. President, did you discuss the issue of David Hicks at all
    with the Prime Minister? And when do you think he might come to trial?
        President Bush. Yes, we did. The Prime Minister brought it up. He
    was pleased that I was able to sign the military tribunal bill, in other
    words, a way forward for somebody like Hicks to be able to get a day in
    court. And he was asking me, do I have a timetable in mind as to when
    Hicks's trial will be coming forth? I told
    him I didn't, although we hope that Hicks is one of the early people
    that will have a day in court.
        Interestingly enough, as I understand, Hicks has lawyers that may be trying to appeal certain aspects
    of the law we passed. If that's the case, he's having his day in court
    in an interesting way. But I believe Hicks deserves a trial and is going
    to get it.
        Thank you all very much.
        Prime Minister Howard. Thank you.
        Q. One more, do you feel generous, one more?
        President Bush. No, I'm not generous. It's also hot out here,
    Gregory. We're in the sun; you're not. [Laughter]

    Note: The President spoke at 1:17 p.m. at the Sheraton Hanoi. In his
    remarks, he referred to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of Iraq; President
    Nguyen Minh Triet and Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung of Vietnam; Gen.
    John P. Abizaid, USA, commander, U.S. Central Command; President

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    Roh Moo-hyun of South Korea; President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia;
    President Hu Jintao of China; Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan; and
    Australian citizen David M. Hicks, a detainee at the U.S. Naval Station
    in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.