    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2005, Book II)]
    [November 7, 2005]
    [Pages 1667-1671]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    The President's News Conference With President Martin Torrijos
    Espino of Panama in Panama City,
    Panama
    November 7, 2005

        President Torrijos Espino. A very good morning, esteemed
    journalists. I'm pleased to welcome you, to welcome the President of the
    United States to Panama.
        On this rainy morning, we've had a work meeting with President Bush,
    and we've had the opportunity to exchange viewpoints on various subjects
    of interest to Panama as well as of interest to the United States. We've
    discussed the advantages and opportunities offered by free trade, and
    we've reviewed our agenda, starting with past April's visit when I had
    the opportunity to visit President Bush in Washington.
        Panama has had a special relationship with the United States
    throughout the various stages of its history, and the President and I
    are committed to maintain and strengthen this through dialog and through
    an open relationship such as we have had so far. There will not always
    be agreement, such as in the unexploded ordinance issue, but there will
    always be a frankness, sincerity between us so that we can discuss

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    as friends on the various viewpoints of our countries.
        In a few moments, I'll have the opportunity to take President Bush
    to the Miraflores Locks. This will be the first time that a sitting U.S.
    President--the first time a sitting U.S. President left the United
    States, he did so to observe the construction of the Panama Canal. And
    today the President of the United States, George W. Bush, will have the
    opportunity to see how we Panamanians feel proud not only of the process
    of reversion of the Panama Canal from U.S. to Panamanian hands, but we
    also feel proud of the way the canal is being managed and of the
    opportunities that it will offer into the future.
        Welcome, Mr. President. And we will now offer an opportunity for
    press from both sides to ask a couple of questions.
        President Bush. I look forward to going to the Panama Canal. I am
    most impressed by the management of the canal. Those who are responsible
    for the Panama Canal have done an excellent job, and this is beneficial
    to the world, and I congratulate you for that. And I'm really looking
    forward to seeing it.
        I'm also looking forward to paying our respects to--by laying a
    wreath. I'm also looking forward to seeing some of the Panamanian
    baseball stars. People around here know how to play baseball, and I'm
    looking forward to seeing some of your stars, Mr. President. So thanks
    for letting us come. Thanks for inviting me.
        We have had a very good discussion, and it's important we have
    discussions, because we're friends. And one of the matters we discussed
    was, how do we work together to improve the lives of our respective
    citizens? And one way is through trade. We're in the midst of
    negotiating a free trade agreement with Panama. And I told the President
    this free trade agreement is important for America, as he told me it's
    important for Panama. And we're close to coming to an agreement, and
    we'll continue to work on that agreement for the good of our respective
    peoples.
        I also told him that I was pleased with the leadership of Panama and
    Argentina. Twenty-nine nations said, loud and clear, ``It's important
    for us to continue to advance a trade agenda that is positive for the
    people of this hemisphere.'' And I appreciated your Government's stance
    on that, Mr. President. You're acting in the interest of your people.
        And speaking about the interest of the people, I do want to say
    something about the tornadoes that recently hit America. I had the--I
    called the Governor of Indiana this
    morning and expressed my deepest condolences for the families who lost
    lives. I asked him if there was more Federal response needed. He felt
    like the response that we had given was appropriate at the time. And
    many Americans are now asking God's blessings on those who suffered
    through this natural disaster.
        Mr. President, I'm fully aware that 25,000 of our citizens live in
    your beautiful country. I can see why. It is a beautiful country. Panama
    City is a modern, progressive city, and your Government is a modern,
    progressive Government. I congratulate you for your fiscal reforms. I
    congratulate you for the strong growth of your economy. I appreciate
    your transparency. I appreciate your strong commitment to fighting
    corruption. It sends a clear signal not only to the people of this
    important country but also to people throughout the region. And it's
    noble, and it's important that you continue, which I know you will, your
    very strong leadership.
        I look forward to continuing to discuss ways for us to fight
    narcotrafficking. You've been strong in that. And that's important for
    our hemisphere, not to allow the narcotraffickers and narcoterrorists to
    be able to threaten the stability of democracies. I also appreciate your
    strong commitment to democracy, itself, rule of law, and freedom to
    worship, freedom of the press, the ability for government to be

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    transparent, and governments to have checks and balances so that we deal
    with the rule of law, not the rule of man. And it's your example, which
    is an important example for others to see.
        And again, I want to thank you very much for your leadership. I also
    thank you very much for helping another part of the world become free
    and democratic, and that's in Iraq. And I appreciate the supervisors
    that you sent to help monitor the elections, to see to it that those--
    the vote on the constitution is free and fair. And I congratulate you
    for that. It's an important gesture, recognizing that--a gesture that
    recognizes that freedom is universal in its application and that
    democracy is the best way to lay the groundwork for peace.
        And I finally want to thank you very much for the condolences and
    offers of assistance you gave to our people after Hurricane Katrina.
    You're indeed a good friend, and I'm proud to be here to confirm that
    friendship.
        President Torrijos Espino. Thank you.
        We would at this time open the floor to two questions per side for
    the journalist group.

    Panama-U.S. Free Trade Agreement/Unexploded Ordinance

        Q. Good morning. You discussed the free trade agreement. There's
    been some remarks, Mr. President, in regard that your support in
    Congress has lessened and that the CAFTA was approved by a very narrow
    margin. What are the real probabilities of getting support in Congress
    for the ratification of a free trade agreement between Panama and the
    United States?
        And there's also concern in Panama regarding the subject of the
    unexploded ordinance in areas contaminated in Emperador, San Jose, et
    cetera, and the commitment from the United States as to whether those
    areas can be decontaminated.
        President Bush. Let me start with the chances of getting an
    agreement passed. The first step is to get the agreement done, and we're
    getting close. And I--we talked to Trade Minister Portman yesterday on the way here to Panama. He
    understands how--the importance I place and the priority I place on this
    agreement. And we just got to continue to work it and get it done.
        Secondly, we're going to have to work the Congress. We talked about
    working the Congress. It's--I'll do my best to work in the Congress, and
    the Panamanian Government understands that once we get an agreement,
    that ministers and friends and allies of Panama will go work the
    Congress. And one area that we need to make progress on is with the
    Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is a free--for many sessions, was a
    free trade party. Not totally, but they had--let me rephrase that--the
    Democrat Party had free trade members who are willing to make the right
    decisions based not on politics but based on what's best for the
    interest of the country. And that spirit has dissipated in recent votes,
    and Panama can help reinvigorate the spirit. We can help to make sure
    this isn't just such a partisan issue that people are unwilling to make
    a vote based upon their principle and what's right for our respective
    countries.
        Secondly, we had obligations under the treaty, and we felt like we
    met those obligations. There is a difference of opinion, and so we have
    a disagreement that we will continue to discuss. And we're able to do so
    in a way that I think is constructive, because we're friends.
        Deb [Deb Riechmann, Associated Press].

    CIA Employee's Identity Disclosure
    Investigation

        Q. Back in October of 2000, Mr. President----
        President Bush. October of 2000?
        Q. Yes, sir. Back in October of 2000, this is what you said----
        President Bush. Okay. Whew.
        Q. ``We will ask not only what is legal but what is right, not what
    the lawyers

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    allow but what the public deserves.'' In the CIA leak case, has your
    administration lived up to this campaign promise?
        President Bush. In the--pardon my--I didn't hear you.
        Q. In the CIA leak case, has your administration lived up to this
    campaign promise?
        President Bush. Oh, Deb, look, I said the other day to the press
    corps that was assembled in Argentina that there's still an ongoing
    investigation. We take this investigation very seriously, and we'll
    continue to cooperate during the investigation.

    Panama Canal/Free Trade of the Americas Agreement

        Q. Thank you, Mr. President. President Bush, how would the United
    States look upon mainland China's participation in the subject of the
    widening of the Panama Canal? And would this participation affect
    interests of the United States?
        And on the other hand, in the recent FTAA summit held in South
    America, there were deep divisions, and what do you feel these deep
    divisions are all about, these ideological issues among the countries of
    MERCOSUR?
        President Bush. First let me start with the Panama Canal. I think it
    is wise for the Government to consider modernizing the canal. It's--
    things have changed since the canal was first built, and there needs to
    be a continued appraisal of the canal to make sure that it is--it's
    used. It's in the nation's interest that this canal be modernized. And
    so I--we didn't discuss the financing mechanisms, but I'm confident that
    however the widening is--the modernization is financed, that the
    Government and the--those authorities over the canal recognize that it
    is to be used by everybody, that the canal is international, that there
    ought to be equal access. It's in the interest of those who run the
    canal not only to modernize it but to make sure it's used properly.
        At the FTAA, 29 countries--I mean, at the summit on the FTAA, 29
    countries said, ``Let's make sure in 2006, we continue discussing a way
    forward for the FTAA''--29 of the 34 countries. There was a strong
    approval for the concept of working together to put agreements in place
    that will enable us to compete with China in the long run, for example.
    And so I found the spirit for free trade to be strong. There was five
    nations that said, ``Well, we don't want to do it as soon as 2006.'' On
    the other hand, I went to Brazil yesterday, and there was strong
    agreement in Brazil that we work together to advance the Doha round of
    the WTO.
        The impression I came away with, which is an accurate impression is,
    is that there's a lot of people who recognize--by far, the vast majority
    of countries recognize it's in our nations' interests to advance the
    trade agenda.
        Let's see here. Toby [Tabassum Zakaria, Reuters].

    War on Terror

        Q. Mr. President, there has been a bit of an international outcry
    over reports of secret U.S. prisons in Europe for terrorism suspects.
    Will you let the Red Cross have access to them? And do you agree with
    Vice President Cheney that the CIA should be exempt from legislation to
    ban torture?
        President Bush. Our country is at war, and our Government has the
    obligation to protect the American people. The executive branch has the
    obligation to protect the American people; the legislative branch has
    the obligation to protect the American people. And we are aggressively
    doing that. We are finding terrorists and bringing them to justice. We
    are gathering information about where the terrorists may be hiding. We
    are trying to disrupt their plots and plans. Anything we do to that
    effort, to that end, in this effort, any activity we conduct, is within
    the law. We do not torture.
        And therefore, we're working with Congress to make sure that as we
    go forward, we make it possible--more possible to do our job. There's an
    enemy that lurks and

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    plots and plans and wants to hurt America again. And so, you bet, we'll
    aggressively pursue them. But we will do so under the law. And that's
    why you're seeing members of my administration go and brief the
    Congress. We want to work together in this matter. We--all of us have an
    obligation, and it's a solemn obligation and a solemn responsibility.
    And, you know, I'm confident that when people see the facts, that
    they'll recognize that we've--they've got more work to do and that we
    must protect ourselves in a way that is lawful.
        Mr. President, thank you.

    Note: The President's news conference began at 9:25 a.m. at the Casa
    Amarilla. In his remarks, he referred to Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana.
    President Torrijos Espino and some reporters spoke in Spanish, and their
    remarks were translated by an interpreter. The Office of the Press
    Secretary also released a Spanish language transcript of this news
    conference.