[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2005, Book I)]
[June 2, 2005]
[Pages 929-936]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks at a Dinner for Senator James M. Talent in St. Louis, Missouri
June 2, 2005

    Thank you all for coming. Thanks for the warm welcome. Please be 
seated. My arm still hurts from the last time--or one of the last times 
I came to St. Louis. I tried to fire a 90-mile-an-hour fastball on 
opening day--[laughter]--got up there about 60, maybe. [Laughter] But I 
love coming to your town. Thanks for having me. Thank you all. Those of 
you who have traveled--I want to thank those of you who traveled from 
outside this great city of St. Louis to come to support Talent.
    The ``Show Me'' State--my attitude is, show me a good Senator, and 
I'm going to back him. And we've got a great Senator in Jim Talent. I 
appreciate his spirit. I appreciate his working with the White House. 
He's an independent enough guy to tell

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us if we're not doing right. In other words, he is the kind of person 
you want from a State of strong, independent people: Tough, principled, 
unwilling to yield when he stands for--when he believes he's correct. 
And that's the way Jim Talent is. Every time I'm with him, he's always 
talking about the citizens of Missouri. I say, ``What about Texas?'' He 
says, ``Well, they're all right down there.'' [Laughter]
    So I'm proud to stand here with him. And I think the people of 
Missouri will be wise to send this good man back to the United States 
Senate.
    And Talent married well--[laughter]--Brenda, I appreciate you being here. It's good to meet your 
mother-in-law. It's a smart thing to bring the 
mother-in-law through the photo op line. [Laughter] Not only is he a 
good Senator, he's a smart son-in-law. [Laughter] I was also thrilled to 
meet Michael and Kate 
and Chrissy, Jim and Brenda's children. See, 
what's important to the Talents is putting their family first. That's 
what I like about Jim Talent. He's got his priorities absolutely 
straigh--faith, family, and the United States of America.
    He married well, and so did I. And Laura 
sends her love to all our friends here in Missouri. You might have 
noticed that she's become quite a comedienne. [Laughter] More 
importantly, she's a great First Lady. I was proud of her trip recently 
to the Middle East. She's sending a strong message as part of the 
freedom movement, and that is, you can't be free unless women have a 
free role in society. So not only is she a great comedienne, she's a 
great diplomat. But more importantly, she's a wonderful mother, 
wonderful wife, and a great First Lady for the United States.
    And I want to thank the senior Senator. That's appropriate to call 
you senior, but you are a little older than Talent, at least. [Laughter] 
Kit Bond has served this State 
with great distinction for a long time. He's a great friend and a great 
man. I appreciate you being here, Kit, and his wife, Linda Bond.
    And I'm proud of your Governor. It still 
amazes me that you are old enough to meet the age requirement. 
[Laughter] He's the youngest looking Governor in America. It turns out 
he's a young-looking man who can get a lot done. And I appreciate your 
leadership in the statehouse, Matt. Good job. And the Lieutenant 
Governor is with us, Pete Kinder. I've known 
Pete a long time, and I appreciate your serving, Pete, and joining Matt 
and making this State be all that it can be.
    I want to thank Congressman Kenny Hulshof 
as well, and his wife, Renee. Kenny is a 
bright star in the House of Representatives from the great State of 
Missouri. I love talking to Kenny. He's a thoughtful fellow. Every time 
I see him he says ``soybeans.'' [Laughter]
    I thank Mike Gibbons and his wife, 
Liz. Mike is the State senate president pro tem. 
I want to thank Rod Jetton, the speaker of the 
statehouse, and his wife, Cassie. Thank you 
all for coming. I want to thank all of you all who serve.
    Somebody told me they thought Ambassador Danforth would be here tonight. I hope so. I do want to say that he 
represented our country so well. Jack, thanks for coming, and thanks for 
serving. Thanks for serving so admirably in the United Nations. As well, 
thanks for taking on a tough assignment. I asked Jack Danforth from the 
State of Missouri to help resolve the Sudan civil war, the conflict 
between north and south. And unfortunately, Darfur has obscured the 
great progress that Ambassador Danforth made on behalf of peace. And 
when it's all said and done, Jack, your contribution to helping solve 
that problem will go down in history as one of the great humanitarian 
gestures by our country, led ably by you. Thank you, sir.
    I want to thank all the folks who helped put on this fundraiser. 
It's an incredibly successful evening and--which speaks not only to your 
hard work but also to the

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admiration that your Senator has earned by the people of Missouri.
    We've got a lot to do in Washington. One of the things I like about 
Talent is he understands that our job in Washington is to confront 
problems, not pass them on to future Congresses. In my case, to confront 
problems and not pass them on to future Presidents. That's our job. 
That's what the American people expect from those of us who have been 
elected. And we've got some problems we got to solve.
    Now, we dealt with one of our problems, and that is our economy. We 
had some tough times for a while because of the enemy attack and the 
down cycle of our economy. I don't know if you know this or not, but in 
the last 2 years, we've added over 3.5 million new jobs. More Americans 
are working today in our country than in the Nation's history. And I 
appreciate the fact that Jim understands we can't rest, that the job of 
Government isn't to create the wealth but an environment in which people 
are willing to risk capital, an environment in which there's a 
reasonable chance for America to stay competitive in the world.
    And one way to do that is to make sure we finally get an energy 
policy out of the United States Congress. When I first got to 
Washington, I recognized that our country was too dependent on foreign 
sources of energy. And so I went to the Congress and said, ``Here is a 
strategy that will encourage more conservation, a strategy that will use 
research and development dollars to make it more likely we'll have more 
renewable sources of energy, a strategy that says we can explore for oil 
and gas in environmentally friendly ways in America, a strategy that 
recognizes we need to use nuclear power, a strategy that says we need 
clean coal technology, a strategy that says we can use soybeans to 
refine biodiesel.'' It's a smart strategy.
    But it's been stuck. There's too much politics in Washington, DC. 
It's been stuck. They got it out of the House, and thanks to Jim 
Talent's leadership and Kit Bond's leadership, they're going to get a good bill off the 
Senate floor. I'm going to sign a bill. For the sake of national 
security and for the sake of economic security, Congress needs to get me 
a good energy bill by the recess, by the summer recess break this year.
    Jim Talent knows what I know: Smart policy will enable us to grow 
out of our hydrocarbon society, which we're going to have to do. I went 
to a refinery in Virginia the other day--it's an unusual kind of 
refinery; it's a refinery that refines biodiesel--and saw a new C.A.T. 
engine that can burn 100 percent biodiesel with no exhaust. See, 
technology is going to enable us to diversify away from our old habits, 
which will be good for our country, good for our economy. And the United 
States Congress can help that diversification process through wise 
policy. Jim Talent understands that, and I'm going to keep pushing hard 
to make sure the rest of the United States Senators understand that.
    I appreciate the fact that we passed a good, tough budget out of the 
United States Senate. I hope you appreciate that as well. We've got to 
show the people of this country that we can be wise about how we spend 
your money. Notice I didn't say the Government's money--how we spend 
your taxpayers' money. And so I said to them, ``Here's a way to cut our 
deficit in half, meet our priorities, but it requires fiscal 
discipline.'' And I want to thank Jim Talent for his understanding that 
you can't be all things to all people when it comes time to spending the 
taxpayers' money. You have to set priorities. You have to have goals, 
and you must show fiscal discipline. We passed a good budget. I'm 
looking forward to working with this good Senator to make sure the 
appropriation process stays stuck to the budget.
    I'm also working on Social Security for a reason. The reason is, is 
that there is a huge problem looming for a younger set of Americans. I 
just came from Hopkinsville, Kentucky--Hopkington, Kentucky,

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and I told the people there what I've been telling folks all across the 
country, that if you get your check, you have nothing to worry about. I 
mean, the Social Security system is just fine for people receiving their 
check. But because baby boomers like me are getting ready to retire--
see, my retirement age shows up at 2008--[laughter]--which is a 
convenient year. [Laughter] But the problem for younger workers is 
there's more than just me retiring. There's a whole slew of us called 
baby boomers. As a matter of fact, about 73 million of us are set to 
retire.
    To put that in perspective, there's something like 42 million 
retirees today. And I don't know about the rest of you baby boomers 
here, but I plan on living longer than the previous generation. As a 
matter of fact, I'm trying to exercise on a daily basis so that I do 
live longer. And not only that, but we have been promised greater 
benefits than the previous generation. So you've got a lot of baby 
boomers living longer, getting greater benefits, with fewer people 
paying into the system.
    In 1950--I don't know if you know this or not--but 16 workers paid 
for every retiree. Today, there's 3.3 workers paying for every retiree. 
Soon there will be 2 workers paying for every retiree. So we've got a 
problem, folks. It's not a problem for people who receive their check. 
It's a problem for people coming up. It's a problem not for the 
grandparents but the grandchildren.
    And so I think now it's time to do something about it, and so does 
Jim Talent. And I've laid out some proposals. One of them is, why don't 
we just slow down the growth rate of benefits for some of the wealthier 
citizens. Their benefits will grow but not as quite as fast as Congress 
of the past thought they ought to grow. It's called progressive 
indexing, which, by the way, will get most of the problem solved.
    I also think younger workers ought to be allowed to take some of 
their own payroll tax and set up in a voluntary personal savings 
account. You know why? Right now the Government gets a whopping 1.8 
percent on your money when we hold it in the payroll tax. With a 
conservative mix of bonds and stocks, you can get at least 4\1/2\ 
percent. You compound that difference over time, somebody is going to 
have a pretty sizable nest egg they can call their own.
    The reason I like Jim Talent is because he wants to promote an 
ownership society in America. He and I reject this business about the 
investor class only pertains to a certain group of people. We believe 
everybody in this country ought to own assets. We believe everybody 
ought to have the ability to pass on their assets to whomever they 
choose. We know that when you own something, you have a vital stake in 
the future of the United States of America. Now is the time to not only 
fix Social Security for generations to come but to make Social Security 
a better deal for all Americans.
    And when we get that done, we're going to reform the Tax Code. I put 
together a group of Democrats and Republicans to make some 
recommendations. I'm looking forward to seeing what those 
recommendations are. But I'll tell you one thing: I know I will have a 
strong ally in Jim Talent in making sure the Tax Code is more fair, is 
less large, and accomplishes the mission, and that is to collect 
revenues for our Government in a fair, honest way.
    Do you realize that--I read a report the other day where some person 
estimated from the IRS that there's about $325 billion a year in people 
avoiding taxes. That just isn't right. And part of it has to do with the 
complexities of the Tax Code. For the sake of an economy that grows and 
for the sake of a better America, we've got to reform the Tax Code of 
the United States, and we will.
    I've got a good ally in Jim Talent when it comes to legal reform. 
One sure way to make sure this country isn't competitive is to allow 
these frivolous and junk lawsuits to continue to plague people who are 
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to run businesses. We got too many lawsuits in America, plain and 
simple. I want to congratulate Matt for getting 
good legal reform out of the legislature. We ought to do the same thing 
in Washington. We got a good class-action reform bill out, and I want to 
thank Jim for his work on that. I think we're going to get an asbestos 
bill out here pretty quick, which would be good news. Got a good 
bankruptcy bill out.
    We need one other bill that's really important. You know, when I 
went to Washington, I said, ``Well, most of these legal matters can be 
solved at the State level,'' until I began to look at the effect on the 
Federal budget of these junk and frivolous lawsuits against docs. 
Because of these lawsuits, doctors either get run out of business, or 
the premiums go up--which cost you or the taxpayers more money--or they 
practice defensive medicine in order to stay out of the courts. It's 
estimated that these lawsuits cost the Federal Government about $28 
billion a year. That's a lot. Even for all the money we spend, that's a 
lot. [Laughter] And it's not necessary. We want people to have their day 
in court if they get injured by a lousy doc, but we got to do something 
about these frivolous lawsuits.
    I proposed a good piece of legislation that's now stuck in the 
United States Senate. Jim Talent is a strong backer for medical 
liability reform at the Federal level, and I want to thank him for his 
support.
    I remember when Jim ran for the Senate, he said he would be 
Missouri's health care Senator, and he has kept that promise. We worked 
together to strengthen Medicare by giving seniors more choices and by 
modernizing the system to include a prescription drug benefit. Talent 
understood what I know--what kind of system is it where we pay for 
surgery from a heart attack but not the medicine to prevent the surgery 
from being needed in the first place? It was an antiquated, outdated 
system that needed market incentives in the program and needed to be 
brought up to date for the sake of our seniors. The Medicare bill that 
Jim helped pass out of the United States Senate is a good piece of 
legislation that will mean better quality of life for our seniors in 
America.
    And finally, an issue I know is dear to his heart is association 
health plans. You know, too many small businesses can't afford health 
insurance for their employees. And there's a practical way to deal with 
the problem, and that is to allow small businesses to pool risk across 
jurisdictional boundaries so they can buy insurance at the same 
discounts that big companies get to do. It is a sensible approach to 
helping deal with health care costs. It makes a lot of sense. Talent is 
the author of that idea on the Senate floor, and I look forward to 
working with him to get association health care plans past. And I want 
to thank you for your leadership on that issue.
    There's a lot of issues that we could be talking about here, and he 
said, when I got up here, he said, ``Make sure you keep it relatively 
short. These people paid a lot of money.'' [Laughter] I do want to talk 
about a couple of other things, though. Because of Jim Talent's 
leadership and steadfast support, our party will continue to support 
faith-based and community groups as a way to help heal hurt in America.
    You know, I gave a speech the other day at Calvin College, and I 
talked about Alexis de Tocqueville. He had interesting observations 
about America in 1832. He talked about the strength of America being in 
the souls of our citizens and that people were able to find great 
comfort and solace and strength through civic organizations, voluntary 
organizations where people come together to help heal the hurts of 
society. That was true in 1832, and it's darn sure true today in 2005. 
The strength of this country lies in the hearts and souls of our 
citizens. And the Federal Government should not fear--should not fear 
the presence of faith to help deal with social problems, as a matter of 
fact, ought to welcome

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faith programs and to help deal with social problems.
    I appreciate Jim's willingness to join me in promoting a culture of 
life in America. I want to thank Jim for helping defend the institution 
of marriage from being redefined by activist judges. And speaking about 
judges--[laughter]--I want to thank both Senators from Missouri for 
understanding that every nominee a President sends up must have a fair 
hearing in the Judiciary Committee, an expeditious hearing in the 
Judiciary Committee and then an up-or-down vote on the floor of the 
United States Senate.
    I nominated a fantastic woman named Priscilla Owen over 4 years ago to the bench, Fifth Court. She's a 
fantastic lady, tops in her law school class. In our State, you got to 
run for Supreme Court, and she ran for Supreme Court, got endorsed by 
Republicans and Democrats, won something like 80 percent of the State 
because she's a great judge. For 4 long years her nomination was held up 
for pure partisan reasons--4 years--and finally, as a result of never 
giving up and being steadfast and strong, she got her vote. I want to 
thank Senators Talent and Bond 
for supporting this great woman.
    We got another confirmation that needs to get done too. It's time 
for the United States Senate to stop playing pure politics, stall 
politics, and give John Bolton an up-or-down 
vote on the Senate floor. People look at the Government and say, 
``What's going on with all this filibustering? Why can't people come 
together and do what's right for the country?'' Listen, the United 
Nations needs reform, and I've got a man who can go up there and reform 
it. And John Bolton needs a vote. People are tired of this. And I 
appreciate the folks in Missouri sending a strong message to Washington: 
Focus on the people's business; stop playing politics; get something 
done for the good of the country. And that's the attitude Jim Talent 
brings to the Senate floor, and I appreciate that a lot.
    Jim Talent also understands the war on terror goes on. He's a 
strong, strong supporter of our military, and I want to thank you for 
that. You know, we have a duty to make sure these troops get the best 
possible equipment and the best possible training. And we're fulfilling 
that obligation. You know, our strategy is clear on the war on terror. 
We're going to find them overseas so we don't have to find them--face 
them here at home. We will defeat them there in order to protect the 
homeland. The only way to defend America is to stay on the offense 
against these people, and that's exactly what the United States of 
America will continue to do.
    There are two ways to stay on the offense. One is through good 
intelligence and good movement of troops and good work with the allies. 
And there's another way to stay on the offense against the terrorists, 
and that's to spread freedom. There's nothing that frightens these 
ideological killers more than democracy. It scares them a lot. They 
can't survive in a democracy. They can survive in places where tyrants 
have discouraged hope, suppressed people. They can't survive in an open 
society. See, they can't stand the light of freedom.
    And so our strategy is twofold. One, we'll be tough as heck and stay 
on the offense, but we will also have great faith in the capacity of 
freedom to transform hateful societies to hopeful societies, to 
transform the conditions that create hate to the conditions that create 
hope. And that's what you're seeing around the world. It's a fantastic 
period in American history.
    If you've got young children, I hope you explain to them what 
they're seeing. Think about the people in Afghanistan. It wasn't all 
that long ago that those poor people lived under the barbaric clutches 
of the Taliban. These people were so barbaric that young girls weren't 
even allowed to go to school, and if their mothers dared speak out, they 
were taken to the public square and whipped.

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    We liberated Afghanistan for our own sake. Remember, Afghanistan was 
the home of Al Qaida and its training camps. I laid out a doctrine that 
said, ``If you harbor a terrorist, you're as guilty as the terrorists.'' 
And we told the Taliban to get rid of Al Qaida, and they wouldn't do it, 
and so it's important that when you say something, you mean it. It's 
important that when you say you're going to do it that you go ahead and 
do it, for the sake of peace. And we did. But as importantly, 25 million 
people were liberated in Afghanistan. It's fantastic to think about 
that.
    I've had a lot of friends go over to Afghanistan, and Karen 
Hughes was there early on after the 
liberation, and she went again. And Laura has 
been over. And they say that the change is noticeable. Life is coming 
back, and people are excited.
    I'll tell you a great American story. My barber was raised in Afghanistan. And she came over here to--
there was a revolution or civil war or whatever you want to call it, and 
she decided to stay in America, raised her three kids here, and used her 
great talents and enthusiasm for her country to raise money to build two 
schools. Think about that. What kind of a country is it where you got a 
barber to the President working hard, using her influence and her 
contacts and her friends to raise money--quite a bit of money, by the 
way--to build schools in a faraway country, spectacular country that 
encourages compassion not only at home but abroad. Afghanistan is 
changing for the better, and as it does, the world will be more 
peaceful.
    Listen, we got rid of Saddam Hussein in 
Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a threat to peace. Iraq is changing. I'm sure 
you were amazed, as was much of the world, at the 8\1/2\ million people 
who defied the car bombers and the killers and the suiciders to say as 
loud as they possibly can, ``You will not prevent us from voting and 
exercising our rights as free citizens.'' What a spectacular moment in 
history.
    And now we're standing with the Government as they struggle against 
these suiciders. But they're getting there. And our mission is clear 
there as well, and that is to train the Iraqis so they can do the 
fighting, make sure they can stand up to defend their freedoms, which 
they want to do. And then our troops are coming home with the honor they 
earned. And the world will be better off with a free Iraq and a free 
Afghanistan in the broader Middle East.
    Ukraine had a freedom revolution. Lebanon is now having a freedom 
revolution. Listen, freedom is on the march. And the role of the United 
States of America is to stand with freedom lovers and reformers and 
believers in the power of democracy. And when we do so and as we do so, 
we'll leave a foundation of peace behind for our children and 
grandchildren.
    We're living in a fantastic period in world history. And I want to 
thank Jim Talent for understanding the great opportunities America has 
to leave the world a better place for generations coming up.
    Again, I want to thank you for supporting this good man. He's--like 
we used to say in Texas, when you find a good one, keep him. You got a 
great Senator in Jim Talent. I thank you for recognizing his talents. I 
thank you for contributing to his campaign. I thank you for talking up 
his good work in the coffee shops all around the State of Missouri. You 
don't have to worry about him; he'll be out right behind you, working 
hard to make sure that in this reelection campaign--the citizens of this 
State do the right thing.
    It's an honor to be your President. I'd like to stay a little 
longer, but I'm headed to Crawford. I appreciate your warm reception. 
God bless you, and God bless our great country.

Note: The President spoke at 6:05 p.m. at the Millennium Hotel St. 
Louis. In his remarks, he referred to Gov. Matt Blunt of

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Missouri; Karen P. Hughes, former Counselor to the President; and former 
President Saddam Hussein of Iraq.