[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2005, Book I)]
[February 10, 2005]
[Pages 213-222]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks in a Discussion on Strengthening Social Security in Blue Bell, 
Pennsylvania
February 10, 2005

    The President. Thank you all. Please be seated. Thank you. Thanks a 
lot. Senator Santorum read that just like I 
wrote it. [Laughter] Thanks for coming. I appreciate Rick--I call him 
Rick--for coming over from Washington. Today the United States Senate 
did something constructive. They voted to reform class-action lawsuits 
so that frivolous lawsuits won't drive up the cost of doing business in 
America and so that people--and I want to thank you for your leadership 
on that issue, Rick.
    I appreciate so very much Karen Stout, 
the president of Montgomery County Community College, for having us. I 
want to thank all the professors and students who are here. If you're a 
younger student here at Montgomery Community College, this is a really 
interesting conversation for you to hear. I mean, it's important that 
you listen.

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    I want to thank our panelists who are here. I want to thank the 
county commissioners who are here, Jim Matthews being the chairman. Appreciate you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, 
lousy seat, doing a fine job, though.
    I love the community college system in America, and I'll tell you 
why. Community colleges are flexible, available, and affordable. 
Community colleges can adjust curriculum to meet the needs of the time. 
Community colleges are a--Rick mentioned the 
word ``hopeful''--a really hopeful place for people to gain the skills 
necessary to fill the jobs in a changing world.
    And so I asked Karen, I said, ``Have you 
got anything going on here that's different from the past?'' She said, 
``Quite a few things. We've got a biotech curriculum now that will train 
workers for the jobs which actually will exist.'' She said, ``We've got 
a fantastic nursing program. There's a huge demand for nurses.'' And she 
talked about medical assisting programs. I mean, there's a lot going on 
here, which says to me--it speaks for the vitality of an education 
system that's capable of adjusting to meet needs.
    And so I want to congratulate those of you who support your 
community college system. I assure you that I will work with the 
Congress to see to it there's funding available to make sure people are 
trained for the jobs which will exist as we head into the 21st century. 
Thanks for having us. It's a fitting place to talk about the future, in 
an institution that is so dedicated to the future.
    Today when I landed, I met David Bulkley. 
I don't know where David is. I hope he got a better seat than the 
chairman. There he is--yes, you did. [Laughter] I'm glad you're here, 
David. David is what we call a USA Freedom Corps volunteer. He is a 
mentor. And the reason I like to herald folks like David is that the 
true strength of America lies in the hearts and souls of our citizens. 
If you really think about it, we're a remarkable country because there 
are millions of people who are willing to take time out of their busy 
lives to volunteer to help somebody else.
    David chose to do so through Big Brothers/
Big Sisters Amachi Mentoring Program. It is a fabulous program. It's one 
to help youngsters whose mom or dad may be incarcerated. It is a 
necessary program. It is a vital program, and it works because loving 
people are willing to support it. If you're interested in serving your 
country, if you want to make your community a better place, feed the 
hungry, find shelter for the homeless, and surround somebody who hurts 
with love, just like David Bulkley has done.
    I appreciate the example you've set, and thank you for coming.
    Before I talk about Social Security, I do want to talk about a few 
other issues. You know, when the President gets the mike--[laughter]--I 
told her, she said--Laura said, ``Where are you 
headed today?'' I said, ``I'm going down to North Carolina, and then I'm 
going to Pennsylvania.'' She said, ``Let the panelists talk.'' 
[Laughter] She knows me well. [Laughter]
    But I do want to talk about what a hopeful--how hopeful the world 
has been recently. There's been--some amazing things have happened. The 
people of Afghanistan voted for a President. 
Millions of people went to the polls after the country was rid of the 
Taliban. We acted in our self-defense in two ways: One, we rid the 
country of the Taliban that was fostering and providing safe harbor to 
Al Qaida, which had attacked our country, but we also enhanced our 
defense by working with that country to promote democracy--democracy in 
the part of the world that a lot of folks said it's just impossible to 
happen. But I don't subscribe to that kind of doubt or cynicism because 
I believe deep in everybody's soul is the deep desire to live in 
freedom.
    And the Afghan people, when given that chance--I say that our 
security is more enhanced because democratic societies are

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peaceful societies. Democracies promote peace as they listen to the 
hopes and aspirations of their people.
    And then there was the vote in the Palestinian Territory. And I want 
to commend President Abbas for 
his leadership, his desire to fight off the terrorists so that a 
democracy can evolve in the Palestinian Territories, which will make it 
more likely we'll have peace with Israel.
    And of course, the Ukrainian elections were a great inspiration for 
all. I'm looking forward to meeting President Yushchenko on my trip here to Europe. I think I'm going a week 
from today--2 weeks from today--soon--[laughter]--before the month is 
out. [Laughter]
    And then, of course, a week ago Sunday, something amazing happened--
that in spite of terror and fear and assassination attempts and threats, 
millions of people in Iraq went to the polls to say, ``We will not be 
intimidated. We want to be free.''
    These are important events. They're incredibly important events. And 
I don't know if you suffered through the State of the Union, but there 
was an amazing moment where the Iraq human rights activist who voted and the mom of 
the fallen marine hugged, which spoke volumes to me about, one, the 
appreciation of the Iraqi people for the sacrifices being made on their 
behalf and, secondly, a mom honoring a fallen soldier, honoring her son. 
And I hope she realized then and I hope you all do, too, that by having 
a free society, not only are we more secure in the short run, but in the 
long run our children are more likely to grow up in a peaceful world. 
Freedom is on the march, and for the next 4 years as your President, I 
will continue to work with friends and allies to spread freedom and 
therefore peace around this world.
    A couple of other things I want to talk about. The economy is 
moving--created 146,000 new jobs in January. The national unemployment 
rate is 5.2 percent. People are working. The fundamental question is, 
how do we keep it growing? I'm a big believer in legal reform. Today, I 
mentioned, the Senate took a big step. The House will then respond. I 
hope to be signing the bill relatively quickly. We need to do the same 
thing for asbestos lawsuits. We need to fix the system. Legal reform is 
an important part of making sure America is the best place in the world 
to do business and that the small-business sector remains strong and the 
entrepreneurial spirit is vibrant.
    And so is good budget policy. I submitted a good, lean budget to the 
United States Congress the other day. I've heard from business leaders, 
both large and small. I've heard from community activists. I've heard 
from Members of both sides of the aisle say, ``Let's do something about 
the deficit.'' I said, ``All right, let's go, and here's a budget.''
    And inherent in that budget is, one, Government must set priorities. 
And when Government finds programs that aren't working, it must have the 
courage to eliminate them. And that's precisely what our budget does. 
It's a budget that sets priorities and a budget that makes it clear we 
will be wiser about how we spend the taxpayers' money. And I expect 
Congress to pass that budget.
    We have an obligation to confront problems. Again, I want to talk 
about Social Security, which for years has been called the third rail of 
American politics. If you touch it, you expire politically. [Laughter] 
But I believe the job of the President is to confront problems, not to 
pass them on, not to say, ``Okay, somebody else will solve it.'' And so 
I want to talk about Social Security, just like I did in the State of 
the Union and like I will do over and over and over again around this 
country to make it clear we have a problem.
    And here's the problem. Rick mentioned it. 
I want to, again, say what he said. Baby boomers like me are fixing to 
retire, and there's a lot of us. There's a whole bunch more of us than 
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in our history. And yet we're living longer, and the Government has 
promised us greater benefits than the previous generation. And yet, as 
Rick mentioned, fewer people are paying into the system. So you can see 
the math. You've got more people living longer, getting greater promises 
with fewer people paying for it, which means, in the year 2018, the 
system starts to go into the red--in other words, more money going out 
than coming in.
    Now, one of the myths about Social Security is there's a pile of 
money sitting there accumulating, because you put money in, the 
Government saves it for you, and then when you retire, you get it out. 
That's not the way the system works. Every dime that goes in from 
payroll taxes is spent. It's spent on retirees, and if there's excess, 
it's spent on Government programs. The only thing that Social Security 
has is a pile of IOUs from one part of Government to the next. This is a 
pay-as-you-go system.
    And so therefore, when you have more retirees living longer for 
greater benefits with fewer people paying in, the system inevitably will 
go into the red. In 2018, 13 years down the road, it starts to go 
negative. And every year thereafter, the situation gets worse--in other 
words, more money is required to meet the promises, so that by the year 
2027, the Government is going to have to come up with 200 billion 
additional dollars above and beyond the payroll taxes to meet promises; 
and greater the next year and greater the next year; 300 billion in 
2037; until 2042, it's broke. And that's the dilemma we're faced with.
    And the fundamental question is, are we willing to confront it? And 
so my first mission is to travel our country making it clear to people 
of all political parties, all demographics, we've got a problem. And you 
can define it ``crisis,'' ``big problem,'' whatever you want to define 
it. All I ask is that you look at the chart, and you can define the 
problem however you want to define it. If you're a young person who's 
going to have to tote the bill, I would call it a significant problem.
    Now, it is not a problem for people who've retired and are near 
retirement. And so part of the reason I'm going to travel the country is 
not only to say to folks, ``We got a problem, and here it is,'' but, 
``If you've retired, the system is in good shape for you. You don't have 
a darn thing to worry about. I don't care what the ads say. I don't care 
what the spinners say. You're in good shape. The system will meet its 
promises to you.'' And that's an important thing for seniors to hear, 
because I fully understand a lot of seniors rely upon Social Security. 
There's a lot of folks that count on this very important program in 
order for them to live.
    And so for the next weeks, I'll be continually traveling our country 
saying two things: One, we've got a problem; and two, if you've retired 
or near retirement, born before 1950, you don't have a darn thing to 
worry about; the system will meet its promises.
    Now, once people see there's a problem, the next question is going 
to be, what are you going to do about it? And I have an obligation to 
participate in the process. As Rick mentioned, 
my predecessor, President Clinton, 
addressed this issue. And there was a lot of interesting ideas that were 
floated about how to permanently fix Social Security. There's no need to 
put a bandaid on it now. Now is the time. If we're going to address it, 
we might as well fix it forever. And so we talked about different ideas. 
And as I said in my State of the Union, all ideas are on the table. If 
you've got a good idea, whether you're Republican or Democrat, bring it 
forth. People should feel free to be able to debate this issue without 
fear of political reprisal.
    Now, I've got some ideas myself. And one of the ideas is to allow 
younger workers to take some of their own money and set up a personal 
retirement account. The idea is to allow a younger worker to be able to 
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her money than that which is being earned as a result of the Social 
Security money going through the Federal Government. It's called the 
compounding rate of interest.
    I'm not going to try to get on your turf. I was history major, C 
student. [Laughter] There's hope for you C students; there's hope for 
you. But let me give you an example of the compounding rate of interest. 
Now, the program that we're suggesting to Congress is that personal 
accounts start slowly so that we can better fund the transition to 
personal accounts, and that eventually, though, workers should be able 
to set 4 percent of their payroll taxes aside in a personal account.
    So assuming that the 4-percent level is reached, a person earning 
$35,000 a year over their lifetime, setting aside 4 percent of the 
money, with the compounding rate of interest, by the time he or she 
retires, will have a nest egg of $250,000. Now, that's a capital base 
from which that person can draw money to supplement his or her Social 
Security check she'll be getting, however great that may be. So the 
personal account will be able to earn money over the course of time at a 
greater rate than the money that the Government holds. And that's 
important.
    Now, people say to me, ``What does a personal account mean? Is there 
an example of a personal account? Tell me--this sounds like a brandnew 
idea.'' It's not a new idea. If you're a Federal employee, you've got 
what's available--what's called a Thrift Savings Plan that says you can 
take some of your money and invest it in stocks and bonds. So we've done 
this before. My view is if it's good enough for Federal employees, it 
ought to be good enough for younger workers. In other words, it's an 
attractive way for people to build assets. We ought to, in Washington, 
at least be consistent in our thought. We ought to be fair in our 
dealings with people.
    People say, ``Well, what kind of investments could I invest in?'' 
Well, obviously, we're not going to let you take your money and put it 
in the lottery. That would mean you wouldn't have anything left, in all 
due respect to those people who run the lotteries. Lotteries aren't 
meant for you to win. [Laughter] They're meant for a few people to win 
at best. Or you can't take it and shake dice at the local casino to try 
to enhance your return. In other words, there will be--the types of 
investment vehicles you'll be investing in will be regulated. There will 
be a conservative mix so that the risk is held down but the reward is 
greater than that which is in the Social Security trust.
    People say, ``Well, when I--if I'm the 35,000-a-year person, and 
I've got the 250,000 upon retirement, can I draw it all out?'' No. You 
can't draw it out--all out. It is meant there to supplement your Social 
Security check. In other words, it is part of a retirement fund.
    The distinct advantage of this is not only a greater rate of return, 
it's your own assets. I think there is something incredibly vital about 
a society in which people own something. And we want more people owning 
things in America, your own home, your own business, and owning and 
managing your own retirement account. I think it's a healthy thing for 
people to be able to have a quarterly statement, watching their asset 
base grow. It certainly would cause people to pay attention to the 
economic policies of the Federal Government. And I know that an account 
will be a vital part of a person planning for their future.
    So, for example, if this person decides not to take all the money 
out of the account over time to retire, he could pass it on or she could 
pass it on to whomever she chooses. It becomes a part of a family 
legacy.
    And so personal accounts have got a lot of advantage. And they're a 
new thought in terms of Social Security, but I think over time, as this 
debate takes place, people will see they're an essential thought. 
Personal accounts alone will not solve the problem. But personal 
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reforms that fix the problem will make it more likely a younger worker 
is going to get the benefits that the Government has promised--closer to 
the benefits the Government has promised. And that's important.
    And so I'm looking forward to not only talking about the problem and 
the need for those of us who have earned the trust of the people to do 
something about it, but also to reassure the American citizens who've 
retired, ``You don't have a thing to worry about. You're going to get 
your check,'' but also say to young people, ``You better pay attention 
to this issue. If nothing happens, you're going to get stuck with an 
enormous tab: 200 billion in 2027; bigger every year until it's 
bankrupt. The longer we wait, the more severe the fix becomes.''
    We have an obligation and a duty to confront problems and not pass 
them on to future generations, and that's what we're here to talk about 
today.
    And we're going to start with Olivia Mitchell. Olivia, you live in Pennsylvania. What do you do?
    Olivia Mitchell. Thank you very much, 
Mr. President. It's a pleasure and a delight to be here. I teach at the 
Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. And I have to say I've 
been teaching in the area of Social Security and retirement for, shall 
we say, more than 25 years. What I have found over the years is that it 
takes an enormous amount of effort to get young folks to care about 
retirement planning. But this year, Mr. President, you've made a 
difference, because this year they're sitting up and paying attention. 
In fact, I was even able to get my 16-year-old daughter, sitting over 
here, to attend. So I thank you for that.
    The President. Don't mention her. [Laughter] I tried that once, 
introduced my 16-year-old daughters, and they didn't speak to me for months. 
[Laughter]
    You know, since she talked about young people--sorry to interrupt--
I'm not listening to Laura, obviously. [Laughter] 
Somebody told me an interesting--they saw a survey that said younger 
people believe they're likely to see a UFO than get a Social Security 
check. [Laughter] Anyway. [Laughter] I don't know if it's true.

[At this point, Dr. Mitchell, director, Pension Research Council, 
Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, made brief remarks.]

    The President. Thank you.
    Robin Reedy, you ready to go?
    Robin Reedy. I'm ready as I'll ever be.
    The President. If that's the case, speak in the mike. [Laughter]
    Ms. Reedy. Yes, okay. I'm sorry. [Laughter] 
Guess I wasn't ready. [Laughter]
    The President. Robin has got a compelling 
story. Why don't you share your story with us, please.

[Ms. Reedy, widow, Camp Hill, PA, made brief remarks, concluding as 
follows.]

    Ms. Reedy. Without the income from my 
husband and without the future income that he is going to be providing, 
I am really struggling now to try to come up with a plan that can keep 
me going if, God willing, I'm around for another 20 or 40 years.
    The President. You look like you will be.
    Ms. Reedy. Thank you. [Laughter] I hope so.
    The President. She claims she's a 
grandmother.
    Ms. Reedy. Guys, if you're out there, hi. 
[Laughter]

[Ms. Reedy made further remarks.]

    The President. Her husband pays into the 
system; he passes away unexpectedly; and for a period of time, there 
is--the money he has contributed has no value to her.
    Ms. Reedy. It's gone. He put it in--for 45 
years he's paid money in there.
    The President. Now, there will be survivor benefits starting at the 
age 60.
    Ms. Reedy. Some, yes.
    The President. But not nearly as much as he put in. And the point of 
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account is that, for peace of mind in this case, there would be a nest 
egg, your money, your assets, that--on which you could live. And that's 
one of the benefits. And the system has worked great for a lot of 
people. But there are some glaring errors, and here is one. And a 
personal account, an asset base, helps address that error.
    Ms. Reedy. It would be something that would 
be mine, and it would not belong--go back to the Government.
    The President. Absolutely. Are your kids taking care of you?
    Ms. Reedy. Are my kids--oh, my kids are 
great.
    The President. Well, good, keep doing it, kids.
    Ms. Reedy. They help. They're wonderful. 
They're wonderful.
    The President. Listen to your mother as 
well. [Laughter]
    Ms. Reedy. But I think a lot of the young 
women here need to realize, too, that--and I didn't realize this until I 
became a widow, that by the age of 60, one in six of us will be widows. 
I mean, that's just a statistical fact. And that goes up--it goes up 
very rapidly after that. So to have something like that that is left 
behind to you, that can help you through a very difficult period, I 
think would be a very, very good thing. It would be a godsend, and it 
would be fair, and it would be just.
    The President. Good job. Thanks for coming.
    All right. Sukha Brooks.
    Sukha Brooks. Hi, good evening, Mr. 
President.
    The President. Sukha, where do you live?
    Ms. Brooks. I live in Morton, Pennsylvania.
    The President. Morton, Pennsylvania.
    Ms. Brooks. Morton, Pennsylvania.
    The President. And?
    Ms. Brooks. I'm currently going through a 
divorce, and I have three children. Social Security is very important to 
me. I'm 37 years old. I have an 18-year-old that's started Delaware 
County Community College, and she's majoring in education. She's--her 
aspirations are to become a teacher.
    The President. Good, that's good--noble.
    Ms. Brooks. Two more children, and Social 
Security is very important, being a single mother. We anticipated a lot 
more investing on my husband's side. I work for a small business, so we 
did a lot of the investing through his company. And now at the age of 
37, I was happy that--when you talked about this revamping Social 
Security, particularly on the aspect of personal accounts, because I 
need to make up some lost time. And I think what you're proposing is 
giving someone that's in my situation an opportunity to be able to take 
a personal account into my retirement and to look forward to something, 
particularly a higher return in what you're proposing.
    The President. Yes. You know something amazing, I was just thinking, 
listening to Sukha--when I was her age, there 
wasn't a lot of talk about, one, whether Social Security was going to go 
down the tubes. Fellow baby boomers here, back me up, will you? There 
wasn't much doubt in our mind, right? It wasn't a conversation. Nor was 
there a lot of talk about 401(k)s, IRAs, personal accounts. The world of 
ours has changed. Here's Sukha saying, ``Give me a chance to invest my 
own money.'' There has been a shift of attitude amongst Americans--all 
walks of life--all walks of life.
    And I appreciate that spirit of wanting to own something to bring 
peace of mind and to pass something on to your children.
    Ms. Brooks. I appreciate you giving us the 
opportunity.
    The President. I'm glad you're here. Thanks for coming, 
Sukha. Great job.
    Tommy McManus.
    Thomas McManus. Mr. President.
    The President. Tom, glad to see you.
    Mr. McManus. First, I want to welcome you 
back to the great State of Pennsylvania.
    The President. Oh, yes, glad to be back. Thank you. I heartily 
concur.

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    Mr. McManus. I'm here today with my 
lovely wife, Kim, my young daughter Cheyenne, who is 4\1/2\, and my mom 
and dad who are Social Security participants. My young son Brendan is at 
home with my--his grandmother. He's three. And I've got two major 
concerns with the current status of Social Security.
    The President. First, what do you do--give us a read on what you do. 
I think people----
    Mr. McManus. I am a certified financial 
planner.
    The President. Good.
    Mr. McManus. What I do in my professional 
life, I help people build dream retirements.
    The President. Right.
    Mr. McManus. I work for a local company 
right here in Montgomery County called Lincoln Investment Planning. And 
my main objective every day is to help people achieve their retirement 
dreams.
    The President. Before we get to why you care about Social Security, 
let me ask you a couple of questions about investment vehicles. See, 
people wonder whether or not it is possible to design a system that is 
simple for all to understand and achieves an investment objective which 
is limited risk and a better rate of return than the paltry sum that is 
now garnered within the Social Security. This is kind of a leading 
question. I'm not even a lawyer, but do you--[laughter]--I presume that 
happens all the time at your business.
    I mean, people have got to understand. There's some concerns about 
what a personal account means--what can you invest in and what can you 
not invest in? And is it possible to design a system that helps us 
achieve the objective, which is security upon retirement?
    Mr. McManus. Well, I agree with you, Mr. 
President. My own feeling is--and I convey this in my practice--a dream 
retirement consists of three components: your employer-sponsored plan, 
your personal savings and investments--IRAs, 403(b)s, 401(k)s, that kind 
of thing--and Social Security.

[Mr. McManus made further remarks.]

    The President. See, that's an interesting dynamic for those 
political scientists out there. Let me share some--a view on what 
he just said. See, I campaigned on the issue 
because I realized, one, we needed to do something and I wanted people 
to think that if the guy got in he would take on big problems, but also 
I recognized there were a lot of young people in America who feel the 
same way Tom feels. They're not going to see anything. In other words, 
the dynamic has shifted dramatically.
    And it will particularly shift once senior citizens fully understand 
nothing changes. See, once the senior citizen understands that the 
system is solvent for them, the drivers of this policy are going to be 
people like Tom who say, ``Wait a minute. You've taken care of one 
generation. How about us?'' And it's amazing what happens when people 
start to speak on an issue. Congress--if they speak loud enough and 
consistently enough and long enough, Congress tends to respond. And 
that's why I'm hopeful we can get something done.
    Keep going.

[Mr. McManus made further remarks.]

    The President. I'm going to be holding those hands right with you, 
because it's the truth. No matter what the rhetoric might be, the truth 
is you don't have a thing to worry about. The people that have something 
to worry about are youngsters. You're a youngster. [Laughter] And--I'm 
no longer a youngster--and that's why we've got to act.
    Speaking about youngsters, Sara is with us. Sara Holcombe. Welcome.
    Sara Holcombe. How are you?
    The President. Well, I'm doing pretty good. Thanks very much. 
Feeling pretty spunky. [Laughter]

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[Ms. Holcombe, recruiter, Gateway Search Associates, Blue Bell, PA, made 
brief remarks.]

    The President. Yes, see--I'm going to say it again. People are 
thinking differently about their own money. It is a remarkable 
generational shift, isn't it? If you really think back, if those baby 
boomers here think back, we weren't really spending a lot of time 
talking about, ``Oh, I want to be able to take my own money out of 
Social Security and put it in something that would grow over time.'' 
It's really changed. And I think a lot of younger workers are now 
beginning to say, ``Just give me a chance to do a better job than the 
Government has done on my behalf.''
    I repeat to you, the 35,000-a-year person--that's 35,000 over his or 
her lifetime--taking 4 percent of the payroll tax, which isn't all that 
much money, compounds, though, over a period of time to 250,000. So if 
you're--I don't know if it works--if you were to say the person who 
makes 70,000 over their lifetime and you compound the same, it actually 
ends up being 500,000, but it's substantially more than 250. We're 
talking about people over their lifetime being able to accumulate quite 
a sizeable nest egg to supplement that which the Government may be able 
to pay.
    Keep going. We've got to kind of fill some time here. [Laughter]
    Ms. Holcombe. I also have parents that are 
nearing the retirement age and a grandfather who is 100-percent 
dependent on his Social Security check. And part of my attitude in this 
is, I want to make sure that the system stays the same for them but is 
progressive enough to be there when my generation needs it.
    The President. Yes, that's the question. She's actually laid out the dilemma: Can we do that? And my 
answer is absolutely. Now, it's going to require a political will that 
is a little different than what's taking place in Washington, I fully 
concede. I mean, if this is all viewed through the prism of, ``Well, I 
can't cooperate with so-and-so because they're of a different political 
party,'' then I can't say that's going to happen. But I do believe that 
the people, if they speak loud enough, are able to affect policy. And I 
do believe if young people pay attention to this issue and start saying, 
``We expect you--we expect you, Mr. President, and we expect people, 
regardless of their party, to come together and get this thing fixed 
now, before it is too late,'' we've got a shot at getting it done.
    My pledge to you is I'm going to work hard on the issue. I think it 
is a vital issue. I like to get out of Washington, and I like to travel 
around the country. I went to five States after the State of the Union. 
I went to two States today. Every week--except for that which I'm going 
to be in Europe--I'm going to keep traveling the country reminding 
people of the obligation that we have in Washington, DC, to bring folks 
together and to fix this problem, so that people will say, when it's all 
said and done, ``They came, they went, and they did their job.''
    Listen, I want to thank you all for coming. I hope you found this 
conversation interesting, informative. It is--I believe it's necessary. 
And I want to thank our panelists who did a fantastic job of sharing 
with us what's on your mind. There's a lot of people like you out there 
that are asking the question, ``What are you going to do about it?'' And 
I'm ready to lead on the issue.
    May God bless you all. Thanks for coming.

Note: The President spoke at 4:22 p.m. at Montgomery County Community 
College. In his remarks, he referred to James R. Mathews, chairman, 
Board of Commissioners, Montgomery County, PA; President Hamid Karzai of 
Afghanistan; President Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) of the Palestinian 
Authority; President Viktor Yushchenko of

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Ukraine; and Janet Norwood, mother of Sgt. Byron Norwood, USMC, who was 
killed in Iraq on November 13, 2004, and Iraqi citizen and political 
activist Safia Taleb al-Suhail, both of whom were guests of the First 
Lady at the President's State of the Union Address on February 2.