    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2005, Book I)]
    [May 31, 2005]
    [Pages 894-907]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    The President's News Conference
    May 31, 2005

        The President. Thank you. Please be seated. I hope you enjoyed your
    Memorial Day weekend.
        My message to Congress when they come back is this, that our economy
    is strong, but we need to work together to make sure that we continue to
    have a prosperous economy, so people can find jobs. I say it's strong
    because we've added over 3.5 million new jobs over the last 2 years, and
    the unemployment rate is 5.2 percent. More Americans are working today
    than ever before. Homeownership is at an alltime high. Small businesses
    are flourishing. Families are taking home more of what they earn.
        Obviously, these are hopeful signs. But Congress can make sure that
    the signs remain hopeful, and here are four good things they need to do.
        First, they need to finish the work on an energy bill. We've gone
    more than a decade without an energy strategy. And as a result, we have
    grown more dependent on foreign sources of energy, and consumers see the
    consequences of that at the gas pump on a daily basis.
        For the past 4 years, I've called on Congress to pass legislation
    that encourages energy conservation, that promotes domestic production
    in environmentally friendly ways, that helps diversify away from foreign

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    oil, that modernizes the electricity grid, that's got a substantial
    amount of research and development money to help us transition from the
    hydrocarbon economy to a diversified source of energy economy.
        The House passed a bill, and the Senate Energy Committee passed an
    energy bill this past week. I appreciate their good work. Now they need
    to get the bill off the floor, into conference, resolve their
    differences, and get me a bill before the August recess. That's what the
    American people expect, and that's what I expect.
        Second, Congress needs to be wise about the taxpayers' dollars. I
    proposed a disciplined Federal budget that holds discretionary spending
    growth below the rate of inflation and reduces discretionary spending
    for nonsecurity programs. The House and the Senate have worked together
    to pass a responsible budget resolution that meets our priorities and
    keeps us on track to cut the deficit in half by 2009. The weeks ahead
    will bring important decisions on spending bills, and the weeks ahead
    will bring in efforts to rein in mandatory spending. We look forward to
    working with Congress to do just that. Congress must keep its commitment
    to spending restraint if we want this economy to continue to grow.
        Third, Congress needs to ratify the Central American and Dominican
    Republic Free Trade Agreement; that's called CAFTA. This agreement is a
    good deal for American workers and farmers and small businesses. See,
    about 80 percent of the products from Central America and the Dominican
    Republic now enter the United States duty-free, yet our exports to
    Central America and the Dominican Republic face hefty tariffs. CAFTA
    will level the playing field by making about 80 percent of American
    exports to those countries duty-free. I've always said I'm for free and
    fair trade. This makes our trade with the CAFTA countries fair, and
    that's important. After all, the CAFTA agreement will open a market of
    44 million consumers to our producers, to our workers, the products that
    our workers make, to our farmers.
        We'll lower barriers in key sectors like textiles, which will make
    American manufacturers more profitable and competitive in the global
    market. It will keep jobs here in America. And it will support young
    democracies. And that's going to be important. There's a geopolitical as
    well as economic concern for CAFTA. And Congress needs to pass this
    piece of legislation.
        And finally, Congress needs to move forward with Social Security
    reform. I'm going to continue traveling our country talking about Social
    Security reform. I'll remind our seniors who are getting a check today
    that nothing will change, and yet I'm going to continue to remind the
    people that we've got a serious problem for younger workers. Part of
    Social Security reform, Congress should ensure that future generations
    receive benefits equal to or greater than the benefits today's seniors
    get. And Congress should help those who rely most on Social Security by
    increasing benefits faster for low-income workers than those workers who
    are better off.
        And as we permanently solve the Social Security problem, we need to
    make Social Security a better deal for younger workers by allowing them
    to take some of their own money and invest it in a voluntary personal
    savings account. A voluntary personal savings account is very similar to
    the personal savings account Members of Congress can do. See, my
    attitude is, if a personal savings account--a voluntary personal savings
    account is good enough for a Member of the United States Congress or a
    Member of the United States Senate--in other words, they felt that was a
    good enough deal for them so they could get a better rate of return--it
    surely seems like it's good enough for workers across the country.

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        And so I look forward to working with the United States Congress on
    these priorities to help strengthen the long-term economic security of
    the country. The American people expect people of both parties to work
    together. They look forward to the Congress setting aside partisan
    differences and getting something done. And so do I. I'm looking forward
    to that. So I look forward to welcome the Congress back and working
    together with them.
        And now, I'll be glad to take some of your questions. Terry [Terence
    Hunt, Associated Press], why don't you start.

    Situation in Iraq

        Q. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, since Iraq's new
    Government was announced on April 28th, more than 60 Americans and 760
    Iraqis have been killed in attacks. Do you think that the insurgency is
    gaining strength and becoming more lethal? And do you think that Iraq's
    Government is up to the job of defeating the insurgents and guaranteeing
    security?
        The President. I think the Iraq Government will be up to the task of
    defeating the insurgents. I think they dealt the insurgents--I think the
    Iraqi people dealt the insurgents a serious blow when they--when we had
    the elections. In other words, what the insurgents fear is democracy,
    because democracy is the opposite of their vision. Their vision is one
    where a few make the decision for many, and if you don't toe the line,
    there's serious consequences.
        The American people have just got to think about the Taliban if
    you're interested in thinking--understanding how the insurgents think.
    They have a--they support an ideology that is the opposite of freedom,
    in my judgment, and they're willing to use the tools necessary--the
    terror tools necessary to impose their ideology. And so what you're
    seeing is a group of frustrated and desperate people who kill innocent
    life. And obviously, we mourn the loss of every life. But I believe the
    Iraqi Government is going to be plenty capable of dealing with them, and
    our job is to help train them so that they can.
        I was heartened to see the Iraqi Government announce 40,000 Iraqi
    troops are well-trained enough to help secure Baghdad. That was a very
    positive sign. It's a sign that they, the Iraqi leaders, understand they
    are responsible for their security, ultimately, and that our job is to
    help them take on that responsibility.
        So I'm pleased with the progress. I am pleased that in less than a
    year's time, there's a democratically elected Government in Iraq; there
    are thousands of Iraqi soldiers trained and better equipped to fight for
    their own country; that our strategy is very clear in that we will work
    to get them ready to fight, and when they're ready, we'll come home. And
    I hope that's sooner rather than later. But nevertheless, it's very
    important that we complete this mission, because a free Iraq is in our
    Nation's long-term interests. A democracy in the heart of the Middle
    East is an essential part of securing our country and promoting peace
    for the long run. And it is very important for our country to understand
    that. A free Iraq will set such a powerful example in a neighborhood
    that is desperate for freedom. And therefore, we will complete the
    mission and support this elected Government.
        Of course, they've got other tasks. They've got to write a
    constitution and then have that constitution ratified by the Iraqi
    people, and then there will be another election. And we, of course, will
    help them as will many countries around the world.
        Steve [Steve Holland, Reuters].

    YUKOS Oil Co., Case in Russia

        Q. The former head of Russia's oil company, Yukos, was sentenced to
    9 years in a prison camp today. Do you think the Kremlin went after him
    because he was a political threat? Are there any repercussions to U.S.-
    Russian relations as a result of this case?

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        The President. I expressed my concerns about the case to President
    Putin because, as I explained to him, here
    you're innocent until proven guilty, and it appeared to us, or at least
    people in my administration, that it looked like he had been judged guilty prior to having a fair trial.
    In other words, he was put in prison and then was tried. I think what
    will be interesting--and so we've expressed our concerns about the
    system.
        What will be interesting to see is whether or not he appeals. There's a--I think we think he is going to
    appeal--and then how the appeal will be handled. And so we're watching
    the ongoing case.
        David [David Gregory, NBC News].

    Iranian and North Korean Weapons of Mass Destruction

        Q. Mr. President, thank you. I wonder if you can explain the
    administration's decision to allow Iran, in its negotiations with the
    Europeans, to get WTO status, ascension into the WTO, whether you think
    that deal, in a sense, has legs. And also, you talked about Iraq being a
    powerful symbol in that part of the world. One of the things you said
    going into the war was that it would deter other countries, rogue
    nations, from developing weapons of mass destruction. And when you think
    about North Korea and Iran, the opposite is true. They haven't been
    deterred at all. Why do you think that is?
        The President. The first part of your question was about our
    agreement that Iran should apply for WTO. In other words, we said,
    ``Fine. If you want to apply for WTO, go ahead and apply.'' That's--and
    we did that to facilitate the EU-3 discussions with Iran.
        I've always believed that the--obviously, the best way to solve any
    difficult issue is through diplomacy. And in this case, France, Great
    Britain, and Germany are handling the negotiations on behalf of the rest
    of the world, which is--those nations which are deeply concerned about
    Iran having a nuclear weapon.
        Now, our policy is very clear on that, and that is that the Iranians
    violated the NPT agreement. We found out they violated the agreement,
    and therefore, they're not to be trusted when it comes to highly
    enriched uranium--or highly enriching uranium. And therefore, our policy
    is to prevent them from having the capacity to develop enriched uranium
    to the point where they're able to make a nuclear weapon.
        Secondly--and so therefore, we're working with the EU-3 to hopefully
    convince the Iranians to abandon their pursuits of such a program. And
    it appears we're making some progress.
        So our decision was to allow them to join the WTO--or to apply to
    join the WTO, which is not ascension to the WTO; it's the right to make
    an application--seemed like a reasonable decision to make in order to
    advance the negotiations with our European partners.
        Secondly, in terms of North Korea, North Korea had a weapons program
    that they had concealed, as you might recall, prior to 2002. As a matter
    of fact, it was prior to 2000--it was a bilateral--so-called bilateral
    agreement between North Korea and the United States. And it turns out
    that they had violated that agreement because they were enriching
    uranium, contrary to the agreement. And we caught them on that. And
    therefore, I decided to change the policy to encourage other nations to
    be involved with convincing North Korea to abandon its weapons program.
    And that's where we are.
        And it's important to have China at the table, for example, saying
    the same thing that the United States is saying, and that is, is that if
    you want to be a responsible nation, get rid of your weapons programs.
    It's important to have Japan and South Korea and Russia saying the same
    thing.
        We've got a lot of work to do with the North Korean because he tends to ignore what the other five nations are
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    times. But that doesn't mean we're going to stop, and can continue to
    press forward to making it clear that if he expects to be treated as a
    responsible nation, that he needs to listen to the five nations
    involved.
        Thank you.
        Q. Would you acknowledge that the war did not deter Iran and North
    Korea from continuing to pursue their program?
        The President. North Korea had its weapons program before, as you
    know, as did Iran. And as I also told you, David, that we want diplomacy
    to work, and it's--we want diplomacy to be given a chance to work. And
    that's exactly the position of the Government. Hopefully it will work. I
    think it will.
        Stretch [Richard Keil, Bloomberg News].

    Tax Cuts

        Q. Thank you, Mr. President. A few moments ago, you mentioned four
    economic priorities that Congress has to address to keep the economy, in
    your words, going on the right track and getting stronger. I noticed you
    didn't mention making permanent the tax cuts that had been passed during
    your first term. Was that an oversight, or do you think that sacrificing
    some of those tax cuts might ultimately be necessary to help balance the
    budget deficit?
        The President. Actually, in my budget, as you know, the budget I
    submitted, we--was one that encouraged permanency. I believe it's
    essential that we have the tax cuts be permanent. It was implicit in my
    statement. I haven't changed. Appreciate your clarification. Congress
    needs to make the tax cuts permanent.
        Thalia [Thalia Assuras, CBS News]. And then we go to Terry [Terry
    Moran, ABC News].

    Social Security Reform

        Q. Mr. President, you talked on your reelection about having
    political capital. You have a Republican Congress. How, then, do you
    explain not being able to push through more of your agenda, especially
    when it comes to Social Security reform, which the public does not seem
    to be accepting and your own party is split on?
        The President. Well, first of all, I think the public does accept
    the fact that Social Security is a problem. You might remember a couple
    of months ago around this town people were saying, ``It's not a problem.
    What's he bringing it up for? Nobody sees it as a problem except for
    him.'' And then all of a sudden, people began to look at the facts and
    realize that in 2017, Social Security--the pay-as-you-go system will be
    in the red, and in 2042, it's going to be bankrupt. And people then took
    a good, hard look at the numbers and realized that Social Security is a
    problem.
        And that's the first step toward getting Congress to do something.
    See, once they hear from the people, we got a problem, the next question
    the people are going to ask, ``What do you intend to do about it?''
        My second goal has been to convince and assure seniors that nobody's
    going to take away their checks. As a veteran of American politics, I
    have withstood the onslaught that said, ``When George W. talks about
    reforming Social Security, that means he's going to take away your
    check.'' Over the last 4 years, seniors didn't have their checks taken
    away, so, hopefully, they're beginning to realize that some of these--
    some of this politics is ringing hollow. But it's very important for
    seniors to understand that when we talk about Social Security reform,
    that they're going to get their check, because there's a lot of people
    relying upon their Social Security checks.
        Thirdly--and so we're just making progress, and this is just the
    beginning of a very difficult debate. I recognize some in Congress
    wished I hadn't have brought the issue up. I mean, the easy path is to
    say, ``Oh, we don't have a problem. Let's ignore it yet again.'' But I
    view my role as the President as somebody who puts problems on the table
    and then calls people together to solve them.

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        This is an issue that really hasn't spent--had that much time in the
    Halls of Congress--the debate--hasn't been debated in the Halls of
    Congress since 1983. And so I'm not surprised that there's a reluctance,
    and I'm not surprised that there's been some initial push-back. But all
    that does is make me want to continue to travel and remind people that
    Congress has a duty to come up with some solutions.
        They're beginning to have hearings in the Congress. The Ways and
    Means and the Finance Committee in the Senate are going to have
    hearings. There's some interesting ideas that have been proposed. We've
    proposed some interesting ideas. One idea is to make sure that low
    seniors--low-income seniors get benefits such that when they retire,
    they're not in poverty. We proposed a plan that takes the--solving the
    issue about solvency farther down the road than any other President has
    proposed. In other words, we're putting ideas out.
        And so I look forward to working with Congress. There is a duty to
    respond. There's a duty for people to bring forth their ideas. Now that
    people understand there's a problem, people who have been elected say,
    ``Okay, here's what I intend to do about it.'' And we're doing our duty,
    and I expect people from both parties to do it as well.
        Listen, I readily concede there is this attitude in Washington where
    we can't work together because one party may benefit and the other party
    may not benefit. The people don't like that. They don't like that
    attitude. They expect members of both parties to come together to solve
    problems. And Social Security is a serious problem that requires
    bipartisan cooperation to solve the problem.
        Terry.
        Q. Mr. President----
        The President. Terry.

    Allegations of Prisoner Abuse

        Q. Thank you, sir. Mr. President, recently, Amnesty International
    said you have established ``a new gulag'' of prisons around the world,
    beyond the reach of the law and decency. I'd like your reaction to that
    and also your assessment of how it came to this, that that is a view not
    just held by extremists and anti-Americans but by groups that have
    allied themselves with the United States Government in the past, and
    what the strategic impact is that in many places of the world, the
    United States these days, under your leadership, is no longer seen as
    the good guy.
        The President. I'm aware of the Amnesty International report, and
    it's absurd. It's an absurd allegation. The United States is a country
    that is--promotes freedom around the world. When there's accusations
    made about certain actions by our people, they're fully investigated in
    a transparent way. It's just an absurd allegation.
        In terms of the detainees, we've had thousands of people detained.
    We've investigated every single complaint against the detainees. It
    seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of--and
    the allegations--by people who were held in detention, people who hate
    America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble
    [dissemble] *--that means not tell the truth. And so it was an absurd
    report. It just is. And you know--yes, sir.
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    Legislative Agenda

        Q. Sir, you mentioned a moment ago a push-back. And there's a
    perception that Congress has been pushing back recently. My question is,
    do you worry that you might be losing a bit of momentum?
        The President. Well, I'm--my attitude toward Congress is--will be
    reflected on whether or not they're capable of getting anything done. We
    got a good budget out of Congress, and we got some legal reform out of
    Congress. We got Priscilla Owen
    confirmed in the Senate, which is a positive thing. It looks like we'll
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    more judges on the appellate bench confirmed. But I think the standard
    by which Congress should be judged is whether or not they can get an
    energy bill, and I think they will. And I look forward to working with
    them on an energy bill.
        Obviously--I mentioned CAFTA--we've got to get CAFTA, which is a
    very important trade agreement. It will be good for workers. And I'm
    looking forward to working with them on Social Security. Those are big
    issues that require action. Again, things don't happen instantly in
    Washington, DC. I know that part of your job is to follow the process
    and follow the politics and who's up and who's down, but I've been
    around here long enough now to tell you it's just--and tell the people
    listening--things just don't happen overnight. It takes a while.
        And one thing is for certain; it takes a President willing to push
    people to do hard things. Because, keep in mind, we haven't had an
    energy strategy in this country for over a decade. And the Social
    Security issue hasn't been on the table since 1983--I mean, seriously on
    the table. And so I'm asking Congress to do some difficult things. And
    I'm going to keep asking them to do some difficult things. And I'm
    optimistic, when it's all said and done, that we will have come together
    and have helped solve some of these significant problems.
        Q. Are you worried, sir, that you're losing some of your push?
        The President. I don't worry about anything here in Washington, DC.
    I mean, I feel comfortable in my role as the President, and my role as
    the President is to push for reform. The American people appreciate a
    President who sees a problem and is willing to put it on the table.
        Listen, admittedly, I could have taken the easy route and said,
    ``Let's don't discuss Social Security until somebody else shows up in
    Washington.'' But that's not what the American people want from their
    President. And we have a serious problem in Social Security. Thalia
    asked about the Social Security issue, and I reminded her that the
    attitude is beginning to shift here in Washington, because for a while,
    people here said there really wasn't a significant problem and, ``I wish
    he hadn't have brought it up.'' And now people are beginning to see the
    realities of Social Security and the fact that we're about to pass on a
    huge burden to a young generation of Americans--a burden, by the way,
    which doesn't have to be passed on. We can permanently solve Social
    Security and should permanently solve it. And I've laid out some
    initiatives to get us on the way to permanently solving Social Security.
        I look forward to the day of sitting down with Republicans and
    Democrats and congratulating both political parties on doing what's
    right for the American people--a day, by the way, the American people
    expect to come as well.
        VandeHei [Jim VandeHei, Washington Post].

    Elections in Egypt/Uzbekistan

        Q. Two questions about the consistency of a U.S. foreign policy
    that's built on the foundation of spreading democracy and ending
    tyranny. One, how come you have not spoken out about the violent
    crackdown in Uzbekistan, which is a U.S. ally in the war on terror, and
    why have you not spoken out in favor of the pro-democratic groups in
    Egypt that see the election process there unfolding in a way that is
    anything but democratic?
        The President. Well, I thought I did the other day, in terms of the
    Egyptians. I think you were traveling with Laura,
    maybe just got back, but I was asked about the Egyptian elections, and I
    said we expect for the Egyptian political process to be open and that
    for people to be given a chance to express themselves open--in an open
    way, in a free way. We reject any violence toward those who express
    their dissension with the Government. Pretty confident I said that with
    President Abbas

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    standing here--maybe not quite as articulately as just then.
        In terms of Uzbekistan--thanks for bringing it up--we've called for
    the International Red Cross to go into the Andijon region to determine
    what went on, and we expect all our friends as well as those who aren't
    our friends to honor human rights and protect minority rights. That's
    part of a healthy and a peaceful world, will be a world in which
    governments do respect people's rights. And we want to know fully what
    took place there in Uzbekistan, and that's why we've asked the
    International Red Cross to go in.
        Let's see--Carl [Carl Cameron, FOX News].

    Nomination of John R. Bolton

        Q. Thank you, Mr. President. On your nomination of Mr. Bolton to the
    United Nations, it is now, by most accounts, under a filibuster, the
    Democrats refusing to invoke cloture last week. I wonder if you could
    address their demands for ongoing documents, in the case of Mr. Bolton's
    nomination as well as what many Republicans have now criticized as a
    pervasive attitude of filibustering on behalf of the opposition on
    Capitol Hill.
        The President. You know, I thought--I thought John Bolton was going
    to get an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor, just like he deserves an
    up-or-down vote on the Senate floor, and clearly he's got the votes to
    get confirmed. And so I was disappointed that once again, the leadership
    there in the Senate didn't give him an up-or-down vote. And the reason
    it's important to have an up-or-down vote is because we need to get our
    Ambassador to the United Nations to help start reforming that important
    organization.
        As I mentioned to you, I think at the press conference in the East
    Room, that the reason I picked Bolton is he's a no-nonsense kind of
    fellow who can get things done. And we need to get something done in the
    United Nations. This is an organization which is important. It can help
    a lot in terms of the democracy movement; it can help deal with conflict
    and civil war. But it's an organization that is beginning to lose the
    trust of the American people, if it hasn't already, and therefore, we
    need to restore that trust. We pay over $2 billion a year into the
    United Nations, and it makes sense to have somebody there who's willing
    to say to the United Nations, ``Let's--why don't you reform? Let's make
    sure that the body works well and there's accountability and taxpayers'
    money is spent wisely.'' And it's important that people in America trust
    the United Nations, and Bolton will be able to carry that message.
        Now, in terms of the request for documents, I view that as just
    another stall tactic, another way to delay, another way to not allow
    Bolton to get an up-or-down vote. We have--we've answered questions
    after questions after questions. Documents were sent to the Intelligence
    Committee. The Intelligence Committee reviewed the NSA intercept process
    and confirmed that Bolton did what was right. And so it's just a
    stalling tactic. And I would hope that when they get back that they stop
    stalling and give the man a vote. Just give him a simple up-or-down
    vote.
        Q. What about the filibuster as a tactic, in general, sir?
        The President. Well, it's certainly been a tactic that's been used
    on judges and Bolton, if this is a filibuster. I don't know what you
    call it. I'm not sure they actually labeled it filibuster. I'd call it--
    thus far, it's a stall--stall headed toward filibuster, I guess. All I
    know is the man is not getting a vote, and it's taking a long time to
    get his vote. And we've--he's been through hearings and questions and
    questionnaires. And it's pretty obvious to the American people and to me
    that you can tie up anything in the United States Senate if you want to.
    But it also ought to be clear that we need to get an ambassador to the
    United Nations as quickly as possible. And so I hope he gets a vote
    soon.

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        Dick [Richard Stevenson, New York Times].

    Bioethics/Stem Cell Research

        Q. Thank you, sir. Last week you made clear that you don't think
    there's any such thing as a spare embryo. Given that position, what is
    your view of fertility treatments that routinely create more embryos
    than ever result in full-term pregnancies? And what do you believe
    should be done with those embryos that never do become pregnancies or
    result in the birth of a child?
        The President. As you know, I also had an event here at the White
    House with little babies that had been born as a result of the embryos
    that had been frozen--they're called ``snowflakes''--indicating there's
    an alternative to the destruction of life.
        But the stem cell issue, Dick, is really one of Federal funding.
    That's the issue before us and that--is whether or not we use taxpayers'
    money to destroy life in order to hopefully find cure for terrible
    disease. And I have made my position very clear on that issue, and that
    is I don't believe we should. Now, I made a decision a while ago that
    said there had been some existing stem cells, and therefore, it was okay
    to use Federal funds on those because the life decision had already been
    made. But from that point going forward, I felt it was best to stand on
    principle, and that is taxpayers' money to use--for the use of
    experimentation that would destroy life is a principle that violates
    something I--I mean, is a position that violates a principle of mine.
    And so--and I stand strong on that, to the point where I'll veto the
    bill as it now exists.
        And having said that, it's important for the American people to know
    that there is some Federal research going on, on stem cells--embryonic
    stem cells today. There's been over 600 experiments based upon the stem
    cell lines that existed prior to my decision. There's another 3,000
    potential experiments, they tell me, that can go forward. There's a lot
    of research going on, on adult stem cell research. We've got an ethics
    panel that has been--that is in place, that will help us, hopefully,
    develop ways to continue to figure out how to meet the demands of
    science and the need for ethics so that we can help solve some of these
    diseases.
        And listen, I understand the folks that are deeply concerned for
    their--a child who might have juvenile diabetes. I know that the moms
    and dads across the country are in agony about the fate of their child.
    And my message to them is, is that there is research going on, and
    hopefully we'll find the cure. But at the same time, it's important in
    the society to balance ethics and science.
        Ed [Ed Chen, Los Angeles Times].

    North Korea

        Q. Good morning, Mr. President. This morning you reiterated
    diplomacy as the way to deal with North Korea. With all due respect,
    some people say that's precisely the wrong approach because diplomacy
    has produced nothing, while at the same time it has allowed North Korea
    to progress in its nuclear program.
        The President. Yes.
        Q. How do you--what do you say to them?
        The President. Well, then let's see. If it's the wrong--if diplomacy
    is the wrong approach, I guess that means military. That's how I view
    it. It's either diplomacy or military, and I am for the diplomacy
    approach. And so, for those who say that we ought to be using our
    military to solve the problem, I would say that, while all options are
    on the table, we've got a ways to go to solve this diplomatically, and--
    --
        Q. How long?
        The President. Well, let me finish. No, I always get asked that, how
    long? How long are you going to do this? How long is that going to
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    give us a timetable? I'm not giving timetables. I am going to say that
    we are--and it's very important for our partners to understand that I
    believe the six-party talks can and will work. We're constantly in touch
    with our Chinese counterparts. Sometimes people move a little slower
    than American society in the world. And sometimes expectations around
    the world are maybe different from ours. But fortunately, we've got
    everybody on the same page that says that the idea of North Korea having
    a nuclear weapon isn't good.
        And by the way, that started with, as you know--might recall, the
    visit I had with Jiang Zemin in Crawford. And we came out of that visit
    with a common declaration that said it's in our interests that North
    Korea not have a nuclear weapon. And that was a positive step forward
    because once you get a country to commit to that goal, then it makes
    it--enables us to work together to achieve that goal in a peaceful way.
        The other thing is, is that it's clear from the other five parties
    there--the other four parties in our five-party coalition dealing with
    the sixth party, which is North Korea--is that people do want to solve
    this issue diplomatically. And so it's a matter of continuing to send a
    message to Mr. Kim Chong-il that if you want to be accepted by the
    neighborhood and be a part of the--of those who are viewed with respect
    in the world, work with us to get rid of your nuclear weapons program.
        Jonathan [Joe Curl, Washington Times].

    Culture of Life

        Q. Mr. President, you often talk about a culture of life and also
    about your responsibility as President to lead. Looking forward, what
    specific policy initiatives will you propose in the balance of your
    Presidency to expand the culture of life?
        The President. Well, part of it, Jonathan, is just to--is to
    constantly remind people that we have a responsibility to the less--to
    the least of us in our society. I mean, part of a culture of life is to
    continue to expand the Faith-Based and Community-Based Initiative to
    help people who hurt. Part of it is to recognize that in a society that
    is as blessed as we are that we have a responsibility to help others,
    such as AIDS victims on the continent of Africa or people who hunger in
    sub-Sahara, for example.
        So the culture of life is more than just an issue like embryonic
    stem cell. It's promoting a culture that is mindful that we can help--to
    help save lives through compassion. And my administration will continue
    to do so.
        Let's see here. Oren [Oren Dorell, USA Today]. Fine-looking shades
    you got there.

    North Korea

        Q. Mr. President, back to North Korea for a second. Why has the
    United States scrapped the one link between our militaries when there's
    been no threat or harm to Americans participating in those missions to
    recover bodies of Americans killed in action during the Korean war
    there?
        The President. The Secretary of Defense decided to take a--what he's referring to is, is that we
    have--I wouldn't called it ``scrapped''--is that the verb you used?
    ``Scrapped''?
        Q. I did say that.
        The President. Yes, scrapped. I would use a different verb. I would
    use ``reassess'' the mission. See, ``scrapped'' means that we're not
    going to do it ever again, I think is what that means. And what the
    Secretary of Defense has said, ``Let me
    just take a look and make sure that as we send people into North Korea,
    that we're fully mindful of them being able to go in and get out.'' No
    immediate threat, just an assessment, is how I would put it. But thank
    you for the question.
        Yes, John [John McKinnon, Wall Street Journal].

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    Judicial Nominations

        Q. Thank you, sir. Can you talk a little bit about the process
    you're using to pick your next Supreme Court Justice? And is that going
    to be affected at all by the agreement that was reached between the 14
    Republicans and Democrats on judicial nominations?
        The President. Well, that depends on whether or not the Senate will
    give my person an up-or-down vote. Here's my process. One, I'm obviously
    going to spend a lot of time reviewing the records of a variety of
    people and looking at their opinions and their character and will
    consult with Members of the United States Senate at the appropriate
    time.
        I know there's been a lot of talk about consultation between the
    White House and the Senate, and we do consult--obviously, we consult on
    district judges--and that we listen to their opinions on appellate
    judges--``their'' opinions being the opinions from the home-State
    Senators as well as others.
        I look forward to talking to Members of the Senate about the Supreme
    Court process to get their opinions as well and will do so--and will do
    so. But obviously, it's--I told the American people I would find people
    of a certain temperament that would serve on the bench, and I intend to
    do that. But we will consult with the Senate.
        Now, in terms of whether that agreement means that a Senator is
    going to get an up-or-down vote, I guess it was vague enough for people
    to interpret the agreement the way they want to interpret it. I'll put a
    best face on it, and that is that since they're moving forward with
    Judge Owen, for example, and others,
    that ``extraordinary circumstances'' means just that--really
    extraordinary. I don't know what that means. [Laughter] I guess we're
    about to find out when it comes to other appellate judges. [Laughter]
        But I was pleased to see Priscilla Owen get an up-or-down vote, and she passed quite
    comfortably. She's a very good judge. And then, of course, Pryor and Judge Brown will be coming up pretty soon, I hope, and I would
    hope they would get confirmed as well. They're good judges.
        Herman [Ken Herman, Austin American-Statesman].

    May 11 Security Alert

        Q. Good morning, Mr. President.
        The President. Thank you for that.
        Q. Thank you. Back on May 11th, I believe was the date, as you were
    off campus for recreation, a small plane came into restricted airspace,
    the alarm went off here at your house, a military operation ensued over
    Washington. Your staff says you were not notified because that was the
    protocol. Two questions: Do you think you should have been notified, and
    is there something wrong with protocols that render the President
    unnecessary when there's a military operation over Washington?
        The President. Obviously, we do have a protocol in place to be
    dealing with a situation that can unfold very rapidly. And these planes
    enter the airspace quickly, and so there's got to be something in place
    that can be dealt with in an expeditious matter. And we have such a
    plan, and I'm comfortable with the plan. And secondly, I was comfortable
    with the decision by the people around me there, out there in Maryland.
    Any time a situation like this comes up, people are constantly reviewing
    the situation, but I was very comfortable with the decision they made.
        Q. Do you often disagree with your wife?
        The President. Herman--[laughter]--here's the way it is. She often
    disagrees with me. [Laughter] Thank you very much, Herman, for that.
        Matt Cooper [Time]. Here we go--no, go with the mike, Matt. We want
    you heard. We want you resonating around the country.

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    China-U.S. Relations

        Q. I appreciate that, Mr. President, thank you. My question is about
    China, which looms larger in the lives of Americans, sir. They finance
    an ever-larger part of our trade deficit. Americans are concerned about
    China's growing economic might, and, of course, about the oppression of
    human rights and religious minorities there. My question, sir, is how
    should Americans think about China? As an ally? A rival? Competitor?
    Friend?
        The President. I think that we ought--it is a--the relationship with
    China is a very complex relationship, and Americans ought to view it as
    such. China is a emerging nation. It's an amazing story to watch here. I
    mean, it's consuming more and more natural resources. It is generating
    jobs and exporting a lot of goods. It's a massive market.
        And so, on one hand, we ought to look at China as an economic
    opportunity, and the best way to deal with China is to say, ``Look,
    there are some rules, and we expect you to abide by the trade rules.''
    And as this--as she grows and as trade becomes more complex, you'll see
    more and more instances where the United States is insisting upon fair
    trade. We expect our--expect to deal with--expect China to deal with the
    world trade in a fair way.
        Now, in terms of security matters, obviously, we just spent a lot of
    time talking about North Korea. China can be a very good partner in
    helping to secure the world. The best way to convince Kim Chong-il to get up--give up his weapons is to have more than
    one voice saying the same thing. And therefore, China is a partner in
    this case, in terms of helping to secure that part of the world from
    nuclear weapons.
        China as well can be helpful in the war on terror. They're just as
    concerned as we are on the war on terror.
        China is a--obviously, there's tension on--about Taiwan that we have
    to deal with. And I made my position very clear and very consistent
    about Taiwan. The Taiwanese understand my position; the Chinese
    understand my position. So, in this case, the relationship is one of
    helping to solve that problem, is to keeping stability in the region so
    that eventually there will be a peaceful solution to that issue.
        And so China is a fascinating country that is significant in its
    size. Its economy is still small but growing. But as well, I believe we
    have an obligation to remind the Chinese that any hopeful society is one
    in which there's more than just economic freedom, that there's religious
    freedom and freedom of the press. And so, in my meetings with the
    different Chinese leaders with whom I've had the honor of meeting, I've
    always brought up issues such as the Dalai Lama or the Catholic Church's inability to get a bishop
    into the country or the need for the country not to fear evangelicals
    but to understand religious freedom leads to peace. And so I'll continue
    doing that so long as I'm the President and, at the same time, help deal
    with this very complex relationship.
        Let's see here--David Greene [Baltimore Sun]. Did you have your hand
    up?

    Historical Assessment of Iraq

        Q. I did, sir. Thank you very much, Mr. President. At the Naval
    Academy last week, you spoke of a midshipman named Edward Slavis, who
    graduated and has served in Iraq. And you quoted him as saying that the
    mission will be a success, and 20 or 30 years from now, historians will
    look back on it and consider it America's golden moment.
        The President. Yes.
        Q. I'm wondering, sir, if you agree with that assessment, and, if
    so, why?
        The President. I do, David, because I believe that as a result of
    the actions we have taken, we have laid--begun to lay the foundation for
    a democratic movement that will outlast this administration, a
    democratic

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    movement that will bring peace to a troubled part of the world.
        I--you probably suffered through this part of my speech on the
    campaign a lot when I talked about my relationship with
    Koizumi. And since you haven't heard it
    for a while, I thought I'd bring it up again. I know. Okay, Stretch,
    look, it's nice and warm; it's a good chance for you to hear the story
    again. [Laughter]
        You know, I reminded people that because Japan is a democracy, Japan
    is now a great friend. We work together on big issues, and yet it wasn't
    all that long ago that we warred with Japan. In other words, democracies
    have the capability of transforming nations. That's what history has
    told us. And I have faith in the ability of democracy to transform
    nations. And that's why, when I talked about Iraq earlier, that we've
    laid the--begun to lay the foundation for a democratic, peaceful Iraq.
    Someday, an American President is going to be dealing with an Iraqi--
    elected Iraqi President, saying--or Prime Minister, saying, ``What we
    can we do together to bring peace to the region?'' In other words, it's
    a platform for peace. And yes, I do believe--I agreed with the man.
        These are incredibly hopeful times and very difficult times. And the
    problem is, is that I not only see the benefits of democracy, but so do
    the terrorists. And that's why they want to blow people up,
    indiscriminately kill, in order to shake the will of the Iraqis or
    perhaps create a civil war or to get us to withdraw early. That's what
    they're trying to do, because they fear democracy. They understand what
    I just--they understand what I understand; there's kind of a meeting of
    minds on that. And that's why the American people are seeing violent
    actions on their TV screens, because these people want to--the killers
    want us to get out. They want us to--they want the Iraqis to quit. They
    understand what a democracy can mean to their backward way of thinking.
        So I do agree with the man. I thought it was a pretty profound
    statement, and I was pleased to be able to share it with the folks there
    at Annapolis.
        A couple of more, then I got to hop. Keith [Keith Koffler, Congress
    Daily]. I get to leave. That's not a very--a couple of more, and then I
    have to retire, as opposed to hopping.

    Social Security Reform

        Q. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Sir, most Democrats continue
    to refuse to negotiate with you on Social Security until you take
    payroll-tax-funded personal accounts off the table. Would you insist on
    these accounts if it means no deal on Social Security?
        The President. We're just beginning the process, and I want to
    remind people that--who might be listening that this is not an easy
    issue for people in Washington, DC, to discuss. There's a lot of people
    calculating the political consequences of making a tough vote, you know.
    Or they're--they remember the old campaigns of the past where if you
    even talk about Social Security, somebody will use your words to try to
    defeat you at the polls.
        So this is a process here, and in that you love to follow the
    process, I will give you some insight into what I think is going to
    happen in the process. It's just going--it's like water cutting through
    a rock. It's just a matter of time. We're just going to keep working and
    working and working, reminding the American people that we have a
    serious problem and a great opportunity to act not as politicians but as
    states men and women to solve a problem.
        And so--oh, I know, I've read about so-and-so, ``We're not going to
    talk about this,'' and, ``We're going to throw down this marker.'' But
    in the meantime, the people are watching Washington, and nothing is
    happening, except you got a President who's willing to talk about the
    issue and a President who, by the way, is going to

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    keep talking about the issue until we get people to the table.
        I repeat to you, Keith, the Social Security issue is a really
    important issue for an upcoming generation. I mean, imagine realizing
    that we've got a problem and then not doing anything about it and
    watching a young generation get taxed, perhaps by as much as a payroll
    tax of 18 percent. How would that make somebody feel? That we shirked
    our duty, that we weren't responsible citizens.
        Secondly, we've been at this for a couple of months, looking
    forward, and it takes a while in Washington, DC. Now, I know people want
    things done tomorrow--or yesterday, and if they're not done, they say,
    ``Well, the thing has fallen apart.'' That's not the experience I've had
    in Washington, DC. I can remember the tax debate, where things didn't
    happen quite as quickly as some liked, but nevertheless, we got
    something done. And I'm convinced we're going to get other things done
    here in Washington.
        But the President has got to push. He's got to keep leading, and
    that's exactly what I'm going to do. And when we get something done,
    there will be plenty of time to share the credit. People--to me, this is
    an issue that is one in which people from both parties ought to take
    great pride in coming to the table to get something done.
        One thing is for certain: The party that I represent is leading. I
    mean, we're willing to take the lead and say, ``Here's what we believe.
    Here's why we believe it,'' willing to take a message to the American
    people that is a positive message and one that says, ``We recognize a
    problem. Now let's work together to solve it.'' And so I think as people
    make their calculations, that I think the American people are going to
    end up saying to those who have been willing to lead on the issue and
    talk about the issue and be constructive on the issue, ``Thanks for what
    you're doing, and we'll send you back up there with our vote, because
    that's the kind of spirit we like.''
        Listen, thank you all for coming out. Enjoyed it.

    Note: The President's news conference began at 10:43 a.m. in the Rose
    Garden at the White House. In his remarks, he referred to Mikhail
    Khodorkovsky, founder and former chief executive officer, YUKOS Oil Co.,
    who was convicted of fraud and tax evasion on May 31 in Russia;
    President Vladimir Putin of Russia; Chairman Kim Chong-il of North
    Korea; President Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) of the Palestinian Authority;
    former President Jiang Zemin of China; William H. Pryor, Jr., judicial
    nominee, U.S. Circuit Judge for the Eleventh Circuit; Janice R. Brown,
    judicial nominee, U.S. Circuit Judge for the District of Columbia
    Circuit; and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi of Japan.