    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2005, Book I)]
    [February 18, 2005]
    [Pages 262-264]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    Interview With VRT Belgian Public Broadcasting
    February 18, 2005

    Europe-U.S. Relations

        Q. Mr. President, it's your first international trip in your second
    term. Does it mean that transatlantic relations are a top priority now
    for you? And how are you going to restore the European confidence in the
    American politics?

        The President. Yes. No, the transatlantic relations have always been
    a top priority, because of all the nations in the world, we share common
    values--America is more likely to share common values of peace and
    freedom and human rights and human dignity. And we've had our
    differences, obviously. But that's okay. The key is to move past
    differences and to focus on how we can leave behind a legacy of peace
    and freedom for our children and grandchildren.
        And so I'm looking forward to it. I want to thank the Belgian
    Government and the Belgian people for hosting the meetings, the NATO
    meetings and the EU meetings. And Laura and I are
    anxious to come. It's--we've got very fond memories of our first trip to
    Belgium. This is a chance to reconfirm a vital relationship and to say
    there's so much we can do, whether it be in the Middle East or joining
    together to fight disease and poverty and terror. There's a lot we can
    do.

    Iraq

        Q. Iraq is a big issue, of course. During your trip, Belgium--NATO
    joined in for the training program. Belgium, well, they only are
    contributing financially. Are you going to insist on more support from a
    country as Belgium and from Europe?

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        The President. No, not from--listen, the Government of Belgium makes
    the decision that they're comfortable with. And all I can ask is--say,
    ``Thanks for considering it. Thank you for the financial contribution,
    and if you're comfortable supporting the training missions with troops,
    fine. If not, you're still our friend.''
        Q. Yes, especially after the opposition--the Belgian opposition
    against Iraqi war.
        The President. Absolutely. I mean, I understand that. No, we can't--
    I don't believe we should ask people to do things that their people
    don't want them to do. And in democracies, the Government reflects the
    desires of the people. That's why I'm such a big believer in democracy.
        Now, having said that, the vote of the Iraqi people should say loud
    and clear that democracy is on the move, and we've got to work together.
    And that's what I'm going to talk to NATO, to make sure they continue
    the training missions, as well as the EU that helped with the elections,
    as well as figuring out ways that we can work together to help this new
    fledgling democracy grow. Because it's in our interest--it's in the
    Belgian interest and the U.S. interest that democracy take hold in the
    Middle East.

    Iran

        Q. Working together will be your big message over in Europe, but
    there is also Iran. Now that Syria pledged support for Iran, how far
    will you support the European diplomatic efforts to solve that issue?
    And can you exclude American military action?
        The President. Well, listen, first of all, you never want a
    President to say ``never.'' But military action is certainly not--it's
    never the President's first choice. Diplomacy is always the President's
    first--at least my first choice.
        And we've got a common goal, and that is that Iran--Iran should not
    have a nuclear weapon. That's what we have said--America has said.
    That's what the Brits have said, the French have said, the Germans have
    said, when they send their Foreign Ministers in to talk to the
    Iranians. In other words, there's a common mission.
        And I look forward to kind of making sure we continue to speak with
    one voice. The--and it's in our interest they not have a nuclear weapon.
    And so we want to support the European efforts, and I applaud the
    European efforts to continue to send a clear message to the Iranians.
    And we want to be--we want to--we will consult, like we have been, to
    make sure that we fully understand where we stand to achieve that goal.
    And I think we--listen, I think if we continue to speak with one voice
    and not let them split us up and keep the pressure on them, we can
    achieve the objective.

    Central Africa

        Q. Mr. President, freedom through democracy is the centerpiece of
    your politics. The Belgian Government feels that they're doing the same
    in Central Africa and Congo. How important is the election process over
    there, since Darfur and AIDS seem to be more of a priority for your
    administration?
        The President. Well, no, I appreciate that very much. First of all,
    I want to applaud the Belgian Government's understanding that you can
    achieve peace through freedom and democracy. I mean, it's very important
    that a country that has benefiting from democracy, like Belgium, not
    ever abandon that for others.
        Secondly, we have been helpful in the Congo. My former Secretary of
    State, Colin Powell, and I have discussed
    this issue a lot. Condi Rice is very
    concerned about not only the Congo but other countries on the continent
    of Africa. And we will work with our friends to not only fight HIV/
    AIDS--and obviously, that Darfur--we've got to be very careful about
    Darfur and work together to solve that problem. But as well, it's to
    support our friends like the Belgian Government in Congo and will.

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        And all they've got to do is ask. And I'm the kind of person, if we
    can't help you, I'll say, ``We can't help you.'' But if we can help you,
    we will. Interesting enough, there's a wonderful movie called ``Hotel
    Rwanda,'' by the way. And the Belgian citizen who ran the hotel came to visit me yesterday in the Oval
    Office. He's a spectacular guy. I said, ``You're a hero.'' And he said,
    ``No, I'm not a hero.'' I said, ``Well, you are to a lot of people,''
    for being such a humanitarian and drawing--you know, to helping draw the
    world's attention to what it means to go through a genocide. And free
    nations must work together to prevent genocide.

    President's Upcoming Visit to Brussels

        Q. Can the Belgian Government read a positive gesture in your first
    visit to Brussels now?
        The President. Oh, they already have. Listen, I'm absolutely
    convinced that the--His Majesty--my visit with His Majesty and Her Majesty will be great, and
    the Prime Minister, who I've known for a
    long time, will be good. I'm looking forward to this. I really am.
    It's--I remember going to the chocolate shop and--which was not
    diplomacy, it was pure commercialism on my part. But it was kind of a
    sweet reminder of our trip there, and I'm just confident that the trip
    will be equally as good this time.
        Q. Thank you so much, Mr. President, for these kind words.
        The President. Good luck to you.

    Note: The interview was taped at 10:41 a.m. in the Map Room at the White
    House for later broadcast. In his remarks, the President referred to
    Paul Rusesabagina, whose actions to shelter refugees during the 1994
    Rwanda genocide were depicted in the film ``Hotel Rwanda''; and King
    Albert II, Queen Paola, and Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt of Belgium. A
    tape was not available for verification of the content of this
    interview.