    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2004, Book III)]
    [October 22, 2004]
    [Pages 2653-2664]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    Remarks in a Discussion in Canton, Ohio
    October 22, 2004

        The President. Thank you all for coming. Go ahead and be seated,
    please. We've got some work to do. Thank you all for coming today.
        First of all, George, thank you for
    that strong endorsement. I am proud to have George in my corner, just
    like I'm proud to have thousands of Democrats all across the State of
    Ohio who understand if they want a safer America, a stronger America,
    and a better America to put me and Dick Cheney
    back in office. Thank you, sir.

        I'm keeping mighty good company today. So I don't know if you know
    this or not, but Laura and I were in the seventh
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    together at San Jacinto Junior High in Midland, Texas. And then we
    became reacquainted when she was a public school librarian in Texas. I
    asked her to marry me. She said, ``Fine, I will marry you, but make me
    one promise.'' I said, ``What is it?'' She said, ``Never make me give a
    speech.'' [Laughter] I said, ``Okay, you've got a deal.'' Fortunately,
    she didn't hold me to that promise. Laura is a great speaker, and when
    she does, the American people see a compassionate, warm, wonderful First
    Lady.
        So I have been telling the girls, one of these days, we'll take the
    family camping trip. [Laughter] They envisioned the Grand Canyon, the
    wilds of Alaska. Girls, this is it, the 2004 campaign. [Laughter] We
    love them dearly. I'm proud of Barbara and
    Jenna. Thank you all for campaigning so hard.
        Thanks for coming today. I'm back in the great city of Canton
    because I'm here asking for the vote. I'm here to describe to you what I
    intend to do over the next 4 years to make this country a better place.
    I believe you have to get out amongst the people and ask for the vote.
    We've got a very unusual way of making some points today. As you can
    see, I've been joined by some citizens from Ohio here on the stage. We
    will listen to their stories. I think it'll help the people of Ohio
    understand why I have made some of the decisions I have made.
        Before I begin, though, I want to thank your Governor, Bob
    Taft, for joining us today. Governor, great to see
    you. I want to thank Jennette Bradley,
    the Lieutenant Governor. Thanks for coming, Governor. You look great.
        Congressman Ralph Regula--appreciate you
    being here, Congressman. Laura and I were looking
    forward to seeing the wife, but, no, of course,
    she's probably out mowing the lawn like you should be doing. [Laughter]
        Listen, you've got a great United States Senator in George
    Voinovich. He doesn't need a poll or a
    focus group to tell him what to think. He stands on principle. You know
    where he's coming from. He doesn't shift in the wind like some other
    United States Senators I know. [Laughter] Put him back in office. And
    I'm proud of Mike DeWine, a fine United States
    Senator as well. We're--Laura and I are proud to
    call both George and Mike friends.
        Today, when I landed at the airport, I met Dan Yeric, who's sitting right there. Dan, why don't you wave your
    hand. Thanks for coming. Dan has been a volunteer at the Akron
    Children's Hospital for 12 years. The reason I bring him up is the
    strength of this country lies in the hearts and souls of our fellow
    citizens. The true strength of America is not our military might; it's
    not the size of our pocketbook. The true strength of America is in the
    hearts and souls of citizens who are working to change this country one
    person at a time, those who've heard the call to love a neighbor just
    like they'd like to be loved themselves. Dan is a soldier in the army of
    compassion. Thank you for your example. Thank you for your care.
        We're getting close to voting time. Who's counting the days?
    [Laughter] And I'm here to ask for your help. I believe with your help,
    we will carry Ohio again and win a great victory in November.
        So Laura and I and the girls are here to thank you for
    what you are going to do over the next less than 2 weeks: call the
    phone--get on the phone and call the voters; put up the signs; find
    those discerning Democrats like the mayor, independents, Republicans; get people to do their duty and
    vote.
        And when you do, as you get them out to vote, remind them what this
    economy has been through. I know there's tough times here in Ohio.
    Remind everybody what we have been through. You might remind them,
    starting with this point: The stock market was in a serious decline 6
    months prior to my arrival in Washington, DC. And then we had a
    recession. In other

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    words, that stock market decline was an indicator that the economy was
    heading south, and it did. And then we had some corporate scandals. We
    passed tough law to make it abundantly clear we're not going to tolerate
    dishonesty in the boardrooms of America. And then we got attacked. And
    those attacks cost us nearly a million jobs in the 3 months after
    September the 11th, 2001.
        Our economy has been through a lot. But we acted. We cut the taxes
    to spur consumption and investment, and our economy is growing. We
    raised the child credit to help people with kids. We lowered the
    marriage penalty. Listen, we don't want a Tax Code that penalizes
    marriage. We want a Tax Code that encourages marriage. We reduced rates
    on everybody who pays taxes. I don't think you ought to be trying to
    pick and choose winners when it comes to tax relief. If you pay taxes,
    you ought to get relief. We helped our small businesses. We encouraged
    investment.
        Our economy has been growing at rates as fast as any in nearly 20
    years. We've added 1.9 million new jobs since August of 2003. This month
    of September--in the last month, that being September, the State of Ohio
    added 5,500 new jobs. Your unemployment rate will drop from 6.3 to 6
    percent. We're moving forward.
        I signed a bill that's going to help our manufacturers. It will save
    $77 billion over the next 10 years for the manufacturing sector of
    America. That will help keep jobs here. It's a bill that extended the
    $100,000 expensing deduction, expensing allowance for small businesses.
    That will help keep jobs here in Ohio. It closes corporate loopholes. It
    repeals the 4.3 percent tax on railroad diesel and barge fuel. That will
    help keep jobs here in Ohio.
        To keep jobs here, we've got to have less regulations on our job
    creators. To keep jobs growing in Ohio, we need to do something about
    the junk lawsuits that plague the job creators in the State of Ohio.
        It's important for us to open up markets for U.S. products, for
    markets, for crops grown right here in the State of Ohio. Listen, we've
    opened up our market, and it's good for consumers. Here's the way the
    market works. If you have more products to choose from, you're like to
    get that which you want at a better price and higher quality. So rather
    than hurting our consumers, what I'm saying to places like China, ``You
    treat us the way we treat you; you open up your markets,'' because we
    can compete with anybody, anytime, anywhere, so long as the rules are
    fair.
        To keep jobs here, we need an energy plan. I proposed one to the
    United States Congress over 2 years ago. It's a plan that encourages
    conservation. It's a plan that encourages the use of renewables. It's a
    plan that recognizes we can use technology to protect our environment
    and, at the same time, burn coal and find natural gas. It is a plan that
    recognizes in order to keep jobs in Ohio, in order to expand the job
    base here in this State and other States, we must be less dependent on
    foreign sources of energy.
        In order to make sure jobs are here, we've got to do a good job of
    educating our people. I told the people when I ran I was going to
    challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations, you know, the system
    that just shuffled kids through the schools, grade after grade, year
    after year, without teaching the basics. I kept my word. We passed the
    No Child Left Behind Act. It raises standards. It spends more money. But
    in return for more money, we're now measuring. You cannot solve a
    problem unless you've diagnosed the problem. We're diagnosing problems
    early now, and more and more of our children are learning to read and
    write and add and subtract, and we're not going to go back to the days
    of mediocrity in our classrooms.
        Education is more than just elementary school. We'll extend high
    standards to our high schools. We'll emphasize math and science. We'll
    continue to expand Pell

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    grants so low- and middle-income Americans can start their career with a
    college diploma. We're going to continue to expand access to community
    colleges so that people actually have the skills necessary to fill the
    jobs of the 21st century.
        I'm going to also remind you that to make sure our economy grows,
    we've got to keep your taxes low. And taxes are an issue in this
    campaign. They are a significant issue, and I'll tell you why. My
    opponent has proposed $2.2 trillion of new
    spending thus far. That's trillion with a ``T.'' [Laughter] That's a
    heck of a lot even for a Senator from Massachusetts. [Laughter]
        So they asked him, ``How are you going to
    pay for it?'' And he pulled out that same old line, that class warfare
    line, ``Don't worry, we'll pay for it by taxing the rich.'' You can't
    raise enough money to pay for $2.2 trillion of new spending by taxing
    the rich. He says he's going to raise the top two brackets. I'll tell
    you three things about that.
        One, most small businesses are Subchapter S corporations or limited
    partnerships, which mean they pay tax at the individual income-tax
    level. And when you're running up the top two brackets, you're taxing
    about 900,000 to a million small businesses all across America. Guess
    what, 70 percent of new jobs in America are created by small businesses.
    It makes no sense to tax job creators.
        Secondly, there is a tax gap. There is a difference between what
    he has promised, 2.2 trillion, and what he can
    raise. Now, guess who usually gets to fill that gap? Yes, you do.
        Thirdly, the so-called rich hire lawyers and accountants for a
    reason when it comes to tax time: to slip the bill and pass it onto you.
    The good news is, we're not going to let him
    tax you. Taxes would be bad for our economy. If you want to make sure
    you keep jobs here in Ohio, you keep the taxes low. We're not going to
    let him tax the American people because we're going to win in November.
    He can run. He can run--he can even run in camo--[laughter]--but he
    cannot hide.
        A couple of other things I want to share with you, and then we're
    going to talk about health care, as you can see. I want to talk about
    promoting an ownership society in America. You know, it's said that no
    one ever washes a rental car. [Laughter] There's some wisdom in that.
    [Laughter] When you own something, you care about it. If you own your
    own small business, you care about the future of America. Do you realize
    that the homeownership rate under my administration is at an alltime
    high in America. We're going to talk about health savings accounts in a
    minute, but this is a way for people to own their own health care and
    manage their own health care in a way that makes sense for American
    families and American small businesses.
        I want to talk about Social Security and ownership. The 2000
    campaign, I remember it clearly. During that campaign, people ran
    advertisements that said, ``If George W. gets elected, our seniors will
    not get their Social Security checks.'' You might remember those ads.
    It's kind of the old typical political scare tactic. Well, as you're out
    gathering up the vote, remind our senior citizens, I did get elected,
    and you got your checks. And I'm going to get elected again, and you're
    still going to get your checks.
        The reason I bring that up is because I'm willing to talk about how
    to make sure the Social Security system is available for our children
    and our grandchildren. It is necessary to do so. See, we're in good
    shape as a baby boomer. The money in the trust--there's enough people
    paying in that we'll be taken care of. We need to worry about the
    children and grandchildren. We need to worry about whether or not Social
    Security will be available for them.
        In order to make sure Social Security is available for our young, I
    believe younger workers ought to be allowed to take some of their
    payroll taxes and set up a personal

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    savings account that will earn a greater rate of interest--rate of
    return on their money than it does in the current Social Security trust,
    a personal account they can call their own, a personal account they can
    pass on to whomever they want, and a personal account the Government
    will never take away.
        And here we have another difference in this campaign. See, I believe
    a President ought to confront problems and not pass them on to future
    Presidents and future generations. And we have a problem in Social
    Security. You might remember one of our debates when my opponent said, ``Well, the status quo was fine.'' Let me
    remind you of two things about that. One, he is the only person on that
    stage during the debate that voted to tax Social Security benefits, not
    once but eight times. And secondly, the status quo is not fine when it
    comes to our children. A President must be willing to confront problems.
    And in a new term, I'll bring Republicans and Democrats together to make
    sure Social Security is available for the younger generation.
        Now, let me talk about health care. We have a clear choice when it
    comes to health care in this campaign. I have a commonsense approach to
    make sure health care is available and affordable. Available through
    places like community health centers, where the poor and the indigent
    can get health care and relieve pressure off of the emergency rooms of
    the hospitals all across the country. Available by making sure our
    children of low-income families are fully subscribed in the Government
    health care program for them.
        Affordable by recognizing that most of the uninsured in America work
    for small businesses, and therefore, small businesses ought to be
    allowed to pool risk across jurisdictional boundaries so they can buy
    insurance at the same discounts that big companies are able to do.
    Affordable through health savings accounts, which we'll discuss. Health
    care more affordable by moving generic drugs quicker to the market so
    our seniors are able to better afford prescription drugs.

        Affordable because I'm the first President to have taken on
    Medicare--I shouldn't say that; other Presidents have talked about
    Medicare. It used to be called ``Medi-scare'' because anytime you talked
    about it, somebody would club you over the head with it as an issue,
    political issue. But I went to Washington to solve problems. And we had
    a problem in Medicare. Medicine was changing. Medicine was modernizing;
    Medicare wasn't. We'd pay tens of thousands of dollars for a heart
    surgery for a Medicare patient but not a dime for the prescription drugs
    that could prevent the heart surgery from being needed in the first
    place. That didn't make any sense. So I brought Republicans and
    Democrats together. I signed a good Medicare bill that says, in 2006,
    our seniors will get prescription drug coverage.

        To make sure health care is available and affordable, we have got to
    do something about these frivolous and junk lawsuits that are running up
    the cost of medicine and running good doctors out of practice. We're
    going to talk about that issue in a minute.

        We're going to talk about that issue in a minute, but I do want to
    make it very clear there is a difference of opinion between me and my
    opponent on health care. In one of the debates
    he said--he looked right in the camera, he said, ``The Government
    doesn't have anything to do with it,'' referring to his health care
    program. Stared right in the camera and said it. I could barely contain
    myself. [Laughter]

        The Government has got a lot to do with it. Eight out of ten people
    that will be signed up for health insurance on his program will end up on a Government program. When you
    raise the limits of Medicaid, it provides an incentive for small-
    business owners to provide no insurance

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    for their employees because the Government will pick it up. And
    therefore, millions of people will go from private insurance to the
    Government rolls. His is a plan that creates 225 new mandates for small
    businesses. Government-run health care does not work. We have got a
    great health care system in the world because it's innovative, because
    it's--private medicine is at the center of our health care system. And
    my opponent's plan would increase the scope and the size of the Federal
    Government when it comes to your health care decisions.
        In all we do to make sure health care works, we'll make sure the
    decisions are between patients and doctors, not by officials in
    Washington, DC.
        Up here with me is Michael Gordon. No, not Michael Gordon. He didn't make it. Michael Gordon was supposed to be
    here. He's a small-business owner. Let me talk about Michael Gordon
    right quick. He's stuck out there, probably behind a barricade chanting,
    ``Four more years.'' [Laughter]
        Audience member. Four more years!
        The President. Oh, Michael, you made it.
    [Laughter]
        Anyway, he's from Tendon Manufacturing.
    He's a small business. He's adding employees. He's optimistic--a small
    manufacturing company here in Ohio. He is a Subchapter S corporation. I
    wish Michael were sitting up here so you could see him. He's a
    Subchapter S. He's expanding his business. When you run up the top two
    brackets of the Tax Code, you're taxing Michael. You're taxing his
    company. It makes no sense to tax the small-business job creators, which
    is precisely what Senator Kerry will do.
        Now, let me talk to you about Bruce, Bruce McDonnell. That's you.
        Bruce McDonnell. That's me.
        The President. Okay. [Laughter] What do you do, Bruce?
        Mr. McDonnell. I'm a CPA.
        The President. You are? Good. And he is
    here to discuss with us health savings accounts. Some of you have heard
    of health savings accounts; some of you haven't heard of health savings
    accounts. But it is an innovative way to make sure the health care costs
    are reasonable.
        Describe to us, if you don't mind, for this great crowd how it
    works.

    [At this point, Mr. McDonnell made brief remarks.]

        The President. Let me stop you. That's to pay for major medical
    bills. So anything above 1,000 for an individual will be taken care of
    by the insurance company. Go ahead.

    [Mr. McDonnell made further remarks.]

        The President. Right. So here's the way it works. He says--what
    he just said is, a health savings account,
    one, is a combination of a tax-free saving account plus a high
    deductible insurance policy. So say you've got a $1,000 deductible, from
    zero to 1,000, you're responsible for paying, or in his case, his
    company contributes from the zero to 1,000 a portion of that. And then
    above 1,000, the insurance company pays for it.
        But think about the benefits of that kind of plan. First of all, if
    you don't use all 1,000, it's rolled over to the next year tax-free, so
    that you begin to accumulate savings for your own health care. Secondly,
    if he were to start a new firm, which I'm
    not suggesting you're going to do, but if you were, and you moved, the
    health care account would go with you. It's yours. You own the health
    care account. You make the decisions. Decisionmaking between patient and
    doctor is a part of how we introduce market forces into a health care
    industry. One way to control cost is to let consumers have more
    decisionmaking, which is precisely what a health savings account does.
        Isn't that right?
        Mr. McDonnell. Absolutely right.
        The President. Did we get it right?

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        Mr. McDonnell. You got it right.
        The President. This is a very interesting way to help small
    businesses hold down--[applause].
        Guess who else is a health savings account owner? Doc, you're a
    health savings account owner--Dr. Schwieterman. Where are you from, doc?
        Tom Schwieterman. I'm from Mercer
    County, which is on the other side of the State, Mr. President.
        The President. Welcome. Glad you're here. You are a doctor of?
        Dr. Schwieterman. Family practice, and
    I provided obstetrics up until a month ago.
        The President. Yes. We've got a problem. ``Provided up until a month
    ago''--helps define what we're here to talk about, which is good health
    care for people.
        Doc, tell me, you have been--you've
    told me something really interesting. I don't know if you know this, but
    my grandfather was raised in Columbus, Ohio. He ended up being a Senator
    from Connecticut--Connecticut, yes. My dad,
    as you know, was in politics. I'm in politics. Anybody in your family
    ever been a doctor before?
        Dr. Schwieterman. I am the fourth
    generation family physician in the same town and actually in the same
    building in rural Mercer County.
        The President. Yes. Nothing wrong with following the old family
    footsteps. [Laughter]
        Dr. Schwieterman. Little easier,
    though.
        The President. Right, girls. [Laughter] Oops.
        So, we were backstage talking. I mean, this is, obviously, not the
    first time I met Tom, or the doc, I call
    him. We have a--he's a rural doc. Rural health care is really important
    for the quality of life in a State like Ohio. And so tell me, describe
    your problem.
        Dr. Schwieterman. We have a family
    practice that has a very long heritage, of course, 113 years of
    providing general medical care and obstetrics. Over those 113 years, we
    have delivered over or near 10,000 children, and--[applause]. Thank you.
    See, my dad's right there. He delivered 5,000.
        The President. Is that Dad?
        Dr. Schwieterman. That's my dad.
        The President. Hey, Dad. You raised a good boy.
        Dr. Schwieterman. And during those 110-
    13 years, we have never had a claims made against our practice. We have
    retained a majority of those births within the practice. And
    unfortunately, last month, we were forced to do our last delivery, and
    this was a fourth generation patient. And she unfortunately ended the
    legacy that we have enjoyed for so long.
        The President. And why? Tell people why. They need to know the
    truth. The people of Ohio need to understand what's taking place as a
    result of all these lawsuits.
        Dr. Schwieterman. For the past 3 years,
    we've pretty much done ob at cost. What we took in is what we paid out
    in malpractice, and this year, we--our premiums went up 40 percent, and
    it became a point where we could not afford to maintain a small business
    with our employees, take care of our patients, with the premiums going
    from 25 to 80 thousand dollars in 48 months.
        The President. Yes. Let me tell--people need to hear this. This is
    an issue in this campaign. The quality of life in the State of Ohio
    depends on whether or not you've got good docs and good, strong
    hospitals and people being able to find health care in cities and in
    rural America.
        Let me talk to you about these lawsuits. First of all, docs practice
    what's called defensive medicine. If you've got a lawyer looming right
    behind you all the time, if you're worried about what happens in the
    court--in the--okay, fine. Everybody needs a good lawyer. I've got too
    many myself. Anyway--[laughter]--it's the difference between some
    lawyers and personal injury trial lawyers that are constantly out there
    trying to convert this legal system into what looks like a lottery. And
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    up paying for the ticket? The taxpayers and the people, because the
    quality of health care is going down.
        If you've got a lawsuit, if you think you're going to get sued,
    you're going to practice more medicine than is needed so you can defend
    yourself in a court of law. That's what happens, and guess what that
    does to the Federal budget, for example. The defensive practice of
    medicine costs our budget about $28 billion a year. I say ``our''
    budget, because when I talk about the Government budget, you pay for it.
    It's your money, 28 billion a year in excess costs in Medicaid and
    Medicare and veterans' health benefits. This is a national issue.
        Secondly, because of the lawsuits, because many people just settle
    whether the suit has merit or not, premiums go up. And guess who pays
    the premiums? You do.
        And thirdly, as a result of a lot of these lawsuits, people just
    can't simply practice medicine anymore. And you just talk--you just
    heard the story that unfortunately is being repeated over and over and
    over again in America. This country needs medical liability reform--now.
        And this is an issue in this campaign. This is an issue in
    campaign--this campaign. Oh, I heard him in the debates, my
    opponent. I heard him talking about medical
    liability reform. But let me tell you something. We had a bill on the
    floor of the United States Senate to provide liability protection to ob-
    gyns, and my opponent voted ``no.'' He's voted against medical liability
    reform 10 times in the United States Senate. He can run, but he cannot
    hide from that record.
        Barb Coen is with us. Doc, thanks. Where do
    you work?
        Barbara L. Coen. I work in Norton, Ohio, at
    a practice called Generations Women's Health Care, with my partner, Dr.
    Susan Clark, who's here.
        The President. Where's the doc? Oh, there you go. Thanks for coming.
    I appreciate you. Very good. Dr. Clark?
        Dr. Coen. Dr. Clark.
        The President. Yes, Dr. Clark. Good to see
    you, doc. You must have drawn the short straw, so you're the one who had
    to actually get up here and talk in front of all the cameras. [Laughter]
    Tell us about your practice. Just give--tell people exactly what's
    happening.

    [Dr. Coen made brief remarks, concluding as follows.]

        Dr. Coen. And as all of you know who've had
    a baby, the relationship between an ob-gyn and a pregnant patient is
    pretty special. They trust you with not only their life but the life of
    their unborn child. I can't tell you what an honor it is to be the first
    person to touch a new life when it comes into the world. There is
    absolutely nothing like it.
        The President. Listen, it was pretty cool to be the second person
    when I touched Barbara and Jenna. [Laughter] Go ahead. They'll be happy to hear I let the
    doc go first. [Laughter]

    [Dr. Coen made further remarks.]

        The President. Thank you, doc. I appreciate
    you. Thank you. [Applause] Okay, thanks, hold on. We've got more work to
    do here. Thank you. Stay right there. Thank you all. And not only do we
    need legislation, we need something that works. Legislation that doesn't
    work is not a good deal. We're not going to do that. We need to make
    sure that there is a real cap on noneconomic damages. If you want docs
    to be in practice, we need to make sure that the reform of the medical
    liability law works. That's why I believe in firm caps to keep docs in
    business.
        Andy Kazar is with us. Andy, tell us your
    story. This is--just, again, I want people listening to understand the
    consequences of not getting a good medical liability law out of the
    United States Senate, a law that my opponent has consistently opposed.
    Please.

    [Aundria D. Kazar made brief remarks.]

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        The President. See, this is--the story is being repeated all across
    the country. I was in Pennsylvania yesterday--ob-gyns can't practice.
    Women have to drive miles in order to find a doc. This is not the
    quality of life that we expect here in America. And it's caused by
    frivolous lawsuits. Make no mistake about it, it is a legal culture.
        When you're out rounding up the vote or if you're listening and
    trying to determine who you're for, remember the stories up here,
    remember the stories of goodhearted docs who are worried about
    practicing their skill. And remember the story about moms who are deeply
    concerned about their child. This is a big issue in this campaign.
        Now, I want to talk about a couple of other issues, and then we'll
    all go home and start working. Actually, I'm going down to Florida;
    you're going to go home and start working. [Laughter] The--and I'm not
    going down there to sit on the beach, either. [Laughter] I'm going down
    there to campaign.
        Two other--a couple of other things. I talk about time of change,
    and these are changing times. Some things don't change. The values we
    try to live by don't change, courage and compassion, reverence and
    integrity. And we stand for a culture of life in which every person
    matters and every being counts. We stand for institutions like family
    and marriage, which are the foundations of our society. And we stand for
    judges--Federal judges who know the difference between personal opinion
    and the strict interpretation of the law.
        Talking about education and health care, these are very important
    issues. But let me say to you that it all goes to naught if we don't
    secure this country, that the security of the American people is the
    most important responsibility of the President. If we show any
    uncertainty or weakness in this decade, this world of ours will drift
    toward tragedy. This isn't going to happen so long as I'm your
    President.
        Let me talk to you--I want to talk to you about some of the lessons
    that I've learned as your President after September the 11th. First of
    all, we face an enemy which has no conscience. They are coldblooded.
    Therefore, you can never hope for the best with them. You cannot
    negotiate with them. You can't say, ``Oh, well, maybe we'll sign a peace
    treaty, and therefore, they'll change their ways.'' The only way to
    secure America, to keep us safe, is to find them and bring them to
    justice before they hurt us again. And therefore, any strategy has got
    to be one that is consistent, firm, and resolved and never relenting.
    [Applause]
        Hold on a second. Hold on for a--I've got some more I've got to tell
    you.
        Secondly, this is a different kind of war. You've got to understand,
    I wish I wasn't talking about war. No President ever wants to be the
    President of a country--of our country during war. War is horrible. But
    it's necessary to be realistic during these times. Our most solemn duty
    is to protect you, and it's a different kind of war than we're used to.
    It's a kind of war when you say something, you need to speak clearly and
    mean what you say.
        And so when I said, ``If you harbor a terrorist, you're just as
    guilty as the terrorist,'' I meant what I said. I was speaking to the
    Taliban in Afghanistan. And see, I was talking to the Taliban because
    they were providing safe haven for Al Qaida. Al Qaida was training
    there. And we said, ``Listen, get rid of Al Qaida.'' They didn't believe
    the United States of America. But because of a great military and
    because I meant what I said, Al Qaida and--the Taliban is no longer in
    control of Afghanistan and Al Qaida is on the run.
        We're making progress. Three-quarters of Al Qaida and their
    associates have been brought to justice. I assure you, we're after the
    rest of them. And the Taliban no longer is in power. And as a result of
    our action, America and the world are safer.

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        But I want to tell your sons and daughters about what has taken
    place in an incredibly brief period of time. It wasn't all that long ago
    in Afghanistan that young girls were not allowed to go to school. Think
    about a society that was run by such barbarians that girls were not
    allowed to be educated. These ideologues of hate had a dark vision about
    the future. As a matter of fact, if their moms didn't toe the line,
    they'd be whipped in the public square and sometimes executed in a
    sports stadium. In defending ourselves and upholding doctrine, we
    liberated the people of Afghanistan. Twenty-five million people now live
    in freedom. Millions went to the polls to vote for their President, and
    the first voter was a 19-year-old woman.
        Three-and-a-half years ago, if you would have asked anybody whether
    or not women would be voting in Afghanistan for President, they would
    have said, ``You're crazy. You're wrong.'' And freedom is on the march.
    Darkness has turned to light in Afghanistan, and America is better off
    for it. We're better off to have an example of freedom in that part of
    the world. We're better off to have an ally in Afghanistan, an ally in
    the war on terror. And we're making progress in Iraq.
        The third lesson of September the 11th, by the way, is we've got to
    take threats seriously before they fully materialize. You can't hope--
    you cannot hope for the best. It used to be, prior to September the
    11th, that if we saw a threat, we could deal with it or not deal with it
    because we didn't ever think it would come home to hurt us. That's what
    we thought. That all changed on September the 11th. You better have a
    President who fully understands that.
        My opponent in his convention speech said,
    ``Oh, we'll respond if attacked.'' That is a pre-September the 11th
    mindset that is dangerous in the world in which we live. We've got to
    take threats seriously before they come to hurt us.
        And I saw a threat in Saddam Hussein. The
    world is better off with Saddam Hussein sitting in a prison cell.
    [Applause] Thank you all.
        There will be Presidential elections there in January. Think how far
    that society has come from the days of mass graves and torture chambers.
        You know, I told the story one time about the seven--there's a lot
    of docs here and healers here. One of the most poignant stories of my
    Presidency was when the Oval Office door opened and in came seven men
    from Iraq, all of whom had had their right hand cut off by Saddam
    Hussein because the currency of that country
    had devalued and he needed scapegoats. It's a true story, I'm telling
    you. And I asked one of the men there, I said, ``Why you?'' He said he
    was a small merchant who needed gold to make jewelry, and he sold dinars
    to buy another currency so he could buy the gold, and it just happened
    to be on the day that Saddam was looking for a scapegoat. He found seven
    small merchants, seven individuals, hauled in, Xs carved in their
    foreheads, and their right hands cut off.
        They had come to see me in the Oval Office because, guess what
    happened? Great compassion existed for them when their stories were
    known. They had been to Houston, Texas, to get new hands put on. And the
    guy who did it is a guy I know, and he said,
    ``Would you mind welcoming these citizens of the world into the Oval
    Office,'' which I was more than happy to do. They came in; they were in
    awe of the Oval Office, of course. You know, I'm kind of a weeper at
    times; and they were weeping; I was semi-weeping. The guy grabs a
    Sharpie with his new hand and folds it and writes a prayer in Arabic
    blessing the United States of America. I told the guy, I told him, I
    said, ``Freedom is on the march in your country. There will be
    institutions greater than the people there. One of the great things
    about the American Presidency is the office is always greater than the
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    your country, the institutions will be bigger than the individuals, so
    that no leader will ever be able to pluck you out of society and cut off
    your right hand again.''
        People want to be free in this world. There will be elections in
    Iraq. Listen, these enemies are trying to stop us. This guy
    Zarqawi, he's trying to stop the march
    of freedom. Freedom frightens these ideologues of hate. It is the worst
    thing that can happen to them. They can't stand the thought of free
    societies.
        I love to tell the story about our friend Koizumi. I'm getting kind of wound up here, yes. [Laughter]
    She wants me to--all right, hold on a second. I
    kind of felt the invisible hook, you know. [Laughter]
        I want to share this with you, though, because it's important for
    you to know my thinking about how to make this world a better place. I
    have a deep desire for your children to grow up in a peaceful world. I
    understand my duty to protect this country. I believe that liberty can
    transform societies. I believe that, and living proof of that is the
    fact that Prime Minister Koizumi is a good
    friend of Laura and mine. That probably doesn't
    seem much to some, but remember, it wasn't all that long ago, 60 years
    ago, that we were at war with the Japanese. The Japanese were the sworn
    enemy of the United States of America. My dad fought against the Japanese. I'm confident many of your
    relatives fought against the Japanese.
        And after we won the war in World War II, Harry S. Truman, President
    of the United States, and others in our country believed in the power of
    liberty to transform an enemy into an ally. There was a lot of skeptics
    then. You can understand why. ``An enemy couldn't conceivably become a
    democracy,'' some would say. ``Why do we even care about working with a
    country that had inflicted* so much harm on the citizens of this
    country?'' But there was great faith in this view. And as a result of
    that and as a result of helping Japan become a democracy, I sit down at
    the table with the Prime Minister of a
    former enemy, talking about how to keep the peace in a troubled world,
    talking about doing what we all want, and that is to extend the peace.
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        Someday, an American President will be sitting down with the duly
    elected leader of Iraq talking about the peace in the Middle East, and
    our children and our grandchildren will be better off for it. [Applause]
        Hold on for a second. I have a--I believe that people want to be
    free. Freedom is not America's gift to the world; freedom is the
    Almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world.
        In the closing days of this campaign, it's very important for you to
    remind your friends and neighbors we have--my opponent and I have a different vision about how to keep America
    secure. He talks in terms of a ``global test'' before we commit troops.
    I didn't make that up. The man was standing right there when he said
    it--well, right here to my right during the debate. He wasn't there
    physically right now. I saw a lot of heads turn. [Laughter]
        Listen, I work with our friends and allies. We'll continue to build
    alliances. But I will never turn over America's national security
    decisions to leaders of other countries.
        I want to thank you all for coming to greet us. I want to thank you
    for your help. I know where I want to lead this country. I know what it
    takes to continue to expand this economy so people can find work. I've
    got a vision for a health care plan that empowers patients and docs. I
    believe in high standards in our schools, and we'll continue to press
    for educational excellence for every child. And I understand that the
    President of the United States must be consistent and firm and resolved
    in these troubling times.
        You know, when I campaigned across your State, I said if you gave
    me--in 2000--if you gave me a chance to serve, I would uphold the honor
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    of the office to which I had been elected. With your hard work, with
    your help, I will do so for 4 more years.
        God bless. And thank you all for coming.

    Note: The President spoke at 2:06 p.m. at the Canton Palace Theatre. In
    his remarks, he referred to Mayor George M. McKelvey of Youngstown, OH,
    who introduced the President; Gov. Bob Taft and Lt. Gov. Jennette B.
    Bradley of Ohio; Mary Regula, wife of Congressman Ralph Regula; former
    President Saddam Hussein of Iraq; senior Al Qaida associate Abu Musab Al
    Zarqawi; and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi of Japan.