    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2004, Book II)]
    [September 21, 2004]
    [Pages 2147-2150]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    Remarks Following Discussions With Prime Minister Ayad Allawi of Iraq and an Exchange With Reporters in New York City
    September 21, 2004

        President Bush. A couple of opening statements. We'll answer--I'll
    answer a couple of questions from the U.S. media, AP and Reuters, and
    I'll answer a question from the Iraqi media as well.
        First, Mr. Prime Minister, it's been my delight to visit with you. I
    appreciate your courage. I appreciate your leadership. I am--I share the
    same confidence you share that Iraq will be a free nation, and as a
    nation, our world will be safer and America will be more secure. We look
    forward to working with you, sir. I'm proud that you have--you and your
    administration have stood strong in the face of the terrorists who want
    to disrupt progress in Iraq.
        Today--yesterday an American citizen was beheaded. We express our
    heartfelt condolences. We send our prayers to the Armstrong family. We
    also stand in solidarity with the American that is now being held
    captive, while we send our prayers to his wife.
        These killers want to shake our will.
        Prime Minister Allawi. Yes.
        President Bush. They want to determine the fate of the Iraqi people.
    We will not allow these thugs and terrorists to decide your fate and to
    decide our fate. As your election draws closer, I'm confident the
    terrorists will try to stop the progress by acts of violence. And I
    appreciate your will, and I appreciate your strength. And we'll stand
    with you, Mr. Prime Minister.
        Welcome.

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        Prime Minister Allawi. Thank you very much. I would like to pay my
    condolences really to the people who lost their lives in defending--
    fighters of freedom and democracy. The barbaric action of yesterday
    really is unbelievable. It demonstrates how much these criminals are
    wanting to damage our worth across Iraq as well as in the civilized
    world.
        We in Iraq appreciate tremendously the courage President Bush took
    in deciding to wage war to destroy Saddam. The atrocities and tyranny
    and--atrocities that have been committed when Saddam was around was
    unbelievable. We show a lot of--hundreds of thousands of mass graves in
    Iraq.
        The war now in Iraq is really not only an Iraqi war. It's a war for
    the civilized world to fight terrorists and terrorism. And there is no
    route but the route of winning, and we are going to prevail, and we are
    going to win, regardless of how much damage they are going to make and
    cause in Iraq and elsewhere. They want to undermine us in Iraq and to
    move from Iraq, to undermine the region. And once they do this, they
    will hit hard at the civilized world, in Washington and New York and
    London and Paris and Ankara and Geneva, elsewhere--everywhere in the
    civilized world.
        So we are adamant and determined that we, together, will stand and
    win against the aggressors, and peace and stability will prevail in the
    Middle East. And we thank you very much for your support.
        President Bush. Thank you, sir.
        Scott [Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press].

    Criticism of Iraq Policy

        Q. Thank you, Mr. President. You've answered some of Senator Kerry's
    criticisms in the last couple days about your Iraq policy. A couple of
    Republicans have raised some questions as well in the last couple days.
    Senator Hagel said that, ``Sharp analysis of our policies is required.
    We didn't do that in Vietnam, to the point where we finally lost.''
    Senator McCain, you're not being ``as straight as we would want him to
    be,'' about the situation in Iraq. What do you say to them?
        President Bush. Both Senators you quoted strongly want me elected as President. We
    agree that the world is better off with Saddam Hussein sitting in a prison cell. And that stands in stark
    contrast to the statement my opponent made
    yesterday when he said that the world was better off with Saddam in
    power.
         I strongly disagree. It is in our interests that we deal with Prime
    Minister Allawi. It's in our interests that we
    work toward a free society in Iraq. And I believe we'll have a free
    society in Iraq, and I know that a free society in Iraq makes America
    safer and the world better off.
        My opponent has taken so many different
    positions on Iraq that his statements are hardly credible at all.
        Who is from the Iraqi media?

    Prime Minister Allawi's Visit

        Q. Mr. President, how do you evaluate Mr. Allawi's visit to America?
    And in what way--how can we--what the result will be reflected on the
    situation of Iraq, as a result of this visit?
        President Bush. Well, first, I'm glad to be able to look him in the
    eye and tell him how much I appreciate his courage. I believe that Iraq
    needed a strong Government to lead the people toward a free world. And
    this group of gentlemen here are doing just that.
        This is an important visit because the Prime Minister will be able
    to explain clearly to the American people that not only is progress
    being made, that we will succeed. The American people have seen horrible
    scenes on our TV screens. And the Prime Minister will be able to say to
    them that in spite of the sacrifices being made, in spite of the fact
    that Iraqis are dying and U.S. troops are dying as well, that there is a
    will amongst the Iraqi people to succeed. And we stand with them. It's
    also an important visit for me to say to

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    the people of Iraq that America has given its word to help, and we'll
    keep our word.
        Who is the Reuters man here?

    National Intelligence Estimate/Situation in Iraq

        Q. Right here, Mr. President, thank you. Why do you think the CIA's
    assessment of conditions in Iraq are so much at odds with the optimism
    that you and Prime Minister Allawi are expressing at the moment?
        President Bush. The CIA laid out a--several scenarios that said:
    Life could be lousy; like could be okay; life could be better. And they
    were just guessing as to what the conditions might be like. The Iraqi
    citizens are defying the pessimistic predictions. The Iraqi citizens are
    headed toward free elections. This Government has been in place for a
    little over 2 months, and the Iraqi citizens are seeing a determined
    effort by responsible citizens to lead to a more hopeful tomorrow. And I
    am optimistic we'll succeed.
        Listen, I understand how tough it is. The Prime Minister understands
    how tough it is. He has to live with the few who are trying to stop the
    aspirations of the many. And we are--we're standing with the Iraqi
    people because it's in our Nation's interests to do so. We're standing
    with the people of this good country because we understand that, as
    Prime Minister has said, that we must defeat them there. Otherwise we'll
    face them here at home.
        And we'll prevail. We will succeed. It's an historic opportunity.
    And that's why I'm so honored to be with the Prime Minister. It's an
    historic opportunity not only to change this good country for the better
    and secure America, but it's an historic opportunity to set example for
    people in the broader Middle East that free societies can and will
    exist.
        And I want to thank you for your leadership, sir.
        Prime Minister Allawi. Thank you, Mr. President. It's very important
    for the people of the world really to know that we are winning. We are
    making progress in Iraq. We are defeating terrorists. Najaf, Samarra,
    Mosul, Basra are all live examples that a lot of progress have been
    made. Unfortunately, the media have not been covering these significant
    gains in Iraq. And this is all because of the determination of the Iraqi
    people. The light that they are seeing at the end will--democracy will
    prevail, the rule of law will prevail. The issues and culture of human
    rights will prevail. And the friendship with the United States and with
    the civilized nations are comfortable there.
        So, really, the winning, it's unfortunate, is not being portrayed in
    the media. This is very unfortunate. I always say that we are welcoming
    any media who wants to come to Iraq and see for themselves the grounds
    we are covering and the winning we are doing in Iraq.
        President Bush. One thing is for certain. My discussions with Prime
    Minister Allawi reconfirm to me that the world
    is much better off with Prime Minister Allawi and his Government in
    power. And any statement to the contrary is wrong. The idea somehow that
    the world would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power is an absurd notion.
        Thank you all.

    Note: The President spoke at 12:52 p.m. at the Waldorf-Astoria. In his
    remarks, he referred to Eugene Armstrong, an American citizen who was
    killed on September 20 by militants led by senior Al Qaida associate Abu
    Musab Al Zarqawi, and Jack Hensley, also an American citizen, who was
    kidnaped with Mr. Armstrong on September 16. Prime Minister Allawi
    referred to former President Saddam Hussein of Iraq. A tape was not
    available for verification of the content of these remarks.

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