[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2001, Book II)]
[August 23, 2001]
[Pages 1010-1017]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session With Students at Crawford 
Elementary School and an Exchange With Reporters in Crawford, Texas
August 23, 2001

    The President. Thank you, Linda. Thanks for 
having me come. It's--what I thought I would do is just say a few words 
and maybe answer some of the questions--some questions from some of the 
boys and girls here, if you have any.
    First, thanks for inviting me, Linda, and 
thanks for being so patient. And also, thank you all for hosting the 
national press corps. [Laughter] I know they've appreciated it very 
much, and on their behalf, I would like to thank them. They are, most of 
the time, well behaved. But they're an important part of our country, 
because in order for people to be able to know what's going on, they 
report the news. Sometimes they exaggerate; sometimes they don't. But 
they're an important part of our democracy. And I appreciate so very 
much you welcoming them here into your school.
    I want to thank all the teachers who are here. Teaching is a noble 
profession, and we can't say enough good words about the teachers, not 
only here in Crawford but in Texas and across America. So thank you very 
much for being a teacher.
    I want to thank the parents who are here. You're right, some of the 
sweetest--one of the sweetest words in our vocabulary is ``mom.'' And my 
advice to you is, listen to your mother. [Laughter] That's about as good 
advice as a fellow can give, because your mom always has good advice.
    I want to ask you a couple of questions. Do any of you read more 
than you watch TV?
    Students. Yes.
    The President. Well, that's important. The reason I asked that 
question is, it's so easy to watch TV, and it's hard to read. But you 
need to do it the other way around. You need to read more than you watch 
TV, because when you get to be a good reader, and I know you will be, it 
makes learning so much easier. And then when you learn a lot of things, 
it helps you realize your dreams.
    And let me ask you this question. Some of you are too young to have 
probably thought about this question, but some of the older kids, how 
many of you dream about going to college?

[At this point, the students indicated their interest in college.]

    The President. Oh, that's great. That means you'd better practice 
reading. That means you'd better read more than you watch TV if you want 
to achieve that goal. That means you've set a goal, right? That's what 
that is. You've set a goal, and now you're going to work hard to achieve 
the goal.
    A couple of other points I want make, and then I'd be glad to answer 
some questions. In order to go to college or to realize your dreams, you 
have to make right choices in life. As you grow up, you've got

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to learn to say yes to the good things and no to the bad things, like 
saying no to drugs. That's going to be important in order to realize 
your dreams. No to alcohol, excessive alcohol. You've just got to learn 
to make the right choices when you get older.
    And guess what is going to help you learn that? Not only your moms 
and your dads but your teachers. And so I hope when you--in school, 
listen to the people that care about you a lot. Read more than you watch 
TV, listen to the values that you are being taught, and study hard, and 
then you will be able to realize your dreams.
    I'll be glad to answer a couple of questions, and I'm going to 
answer some questions from the press corps, too.
    You got any questions? Yes, sir.

Secret Service

    Student. Where are your Secret Service? [Laughter] [Inaudible]
    The President. Yes, that's right, let's see. There's a few of them 
in here. They're important because, unfortunately, there are some people 
in our society that don't think right, that are interested in harming 
people. And they do a great job, and they're good citizens, too, and I 
bet you get to see a lot of them around Crawford. They like to eat the 
hamburgers downtown here.
    Yes, ma'am.

President's Golf Outings

    Student. Where did you play golf at?
    The President. I played golf at Ridgewood Country Club in Waco. This 
morning I played with my friend Senator David Sibley. He is your State senator. He just--he's not going to 
run again, he told everybody the other day. But we had a good time 
playing golf. And then I played at Clifton the other day. But I'm 
through playing golf--[laughter]--for a while.
    Yes, sir.

Former President George Bush

    Student. Was your dad the President?
    The President. My dad was the President. He was the 41st President, 
and I'm the 43d President. And there has been one other time in which a 
dad and his son were Presidents. Do you know who that was?
    Student. John Quincy Adams?
    The President. John Quincy Adams was the son, and the daddy's name 
was John Adams.
    Yes, ma'am.

The Presidency

    Student. What is it like being President?
    The President. Well, it's a great honor to be the President. It's 
one of these jobs where you can help people help themselves. It's a job 
that requires an understanding of where you want to lead. You've got to 
know who you are and where you want to lead the Nation, which means 
you've got to know what you believe in. And I believe in family, and I 
believe in faith, and I believe in personal responsibility. I believe 
that we ought to trust local people to make the decisions for schools in 
their cities and counties. I trust the people of Texas and all the other 
States across the country to make right decisions. It's a great job. 
Thank you for asking. It's a lot of work. But that's okay. People in 
Crawford are used to work.
    Yes, sir.

President's Daily Activities

    Student. What do you do on a regular basis?
    The President. On a regular basis? Well, that's kind of a regular 
basis today. [Laughter]
    I'm going back--I'm going to go back to our place right around the 
corner here, and I'm going to meet with Condoleezza Rice, who is the National Security Adviser. I'm going 
to give a phone call to President de la Rua, who is the President of Argentina, to talk about the 
recent financial package that has been developed on behalf of his 
nation, so that his nation doesn't default

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on debt, which would then affect other people in the hemisphere.
    I'm going to have lunch with First Lady Laura Bush, who sends her very best, by the way. I'm going to see 
Barney the dog and Spot the dog and India the cat.
    I'm going to have a phone call this afternoon with my personnel 
office. One of the things the President does is name people to different 
positions of responsibility in Washington. We've got about an hour 
conference call to go over the names they've recommended to me to be 
nominated for a variety of positions.
    We've got a horticulturist coming out from Texas A&M to help us 
identify the hardwood trees on our beautiful place. We've got about 12 
or 13 different types of hardwoods out there, so he is going to educate 
us about the land. So I've got a lot going on today.
    Tomorrow, interestingly enough, here in Crawford, Texas, the 
Secretary of Defense is coming down, and I'm 
going to hold a big, major press conference tomorrow morning to discuss 
defense matters. And that's very important because one of the jobs of 
the President is to be the Commander in Chief, which means we've got to 
have a strong military and a strong vision about our military. And we 
will discuss that tomorrow with the pool press corps, tomorrow morning. 
The Nation will be interested in the announcements we make as well as 
the discussion we have, I'm confident.
    But when I get back--by the way, the interesting thing about 
Crawford, it's just like I've moved my office from Washington to 
Crawford. See, the thing about a President is, is that you're always the 
President, and there's always an issue, and somebody is always calling, 
and somebody needs to visit, and somebody is flying into town to come 
by, to sit down and talk about variety of issues. And so it's just like 
I moved my office from the Oval Office right out here to Crawford. And 
I'm glad I did; I love being here.
    Let's see. Yes, sir.

2000 Election

    Student. Did you----
    The President. Yeah, you. Go ahead.
    Student. Did you ever get mad at Al Gore during the election? 
[Laughter]
    The President. Not really. No, I never did. I--he--you know, he ran a good, hard race, and I felt like we ran a 
good race, too, and never got mad at him. One of the things in politics 
you learn is, you can't get mad at people. And it's--never really did.
    Yes, sir.

First Family

    Student. Does your family go with you sometimes in Washington and--
--
    The President. On trips? Sometimes. We have--Laura goes with me a lot, of course. We spend a lot of time 
together, and that's good for me. I don't know if it's so good for her, 
but it's good for me. [Laughter]
    We've got twin 
daughters who are 19 years old, and sometimes they travel with us, and 
sometimes they don't. We recently went to Europe, overseas, and Barbara 
went and traveled with us that time, and she got to meet the Pope and 
saw some really interesting parts of the world. But they're pretty 
independent little girls right now, and they're both in college, and 
that's good.
    Yes, ma'am.

The White House

    Student. Where's the White House?
    The President. The White House is in Washington, DC; it's up East. 
It's a beautiful house, and guess what color it is?
    Audience members. White.
    The President. That's right. That's a good answer.
    And the other thing is, is that--but it's not--it's the people's 
house, see. The people of America own that house. And any time you go to 
Washington, or most of the times you can go to Washington, there's a 
tour, and you can go look at the White House and see what's in it. It's 
a beautiful

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place. We're very lucky to live there, and we find it a great honor.
    Yes, sir.
    Student. Is it like really, really big or----
    The President. It's big. Yes, it's really, really big.
    Student. Is it bigger than the tower?
    The President. Bigger than what?
    Student. The tower.
    The President. Bigger than the tower here? I don't know; that's 
pretty big.
    It's got a lot of rooms. It's got some fantastic, big rooms. One of 
the things the President does is have what they have a state dinner. We 
occasionally welcome a foreign leader to come to Washington, DC, and we 
have a dinner, a very formal, fancy dinner. Laura and I are entertaining 
President Vicente Fox from Mexico, and that will 
be the first week we're back, the week right after Labor Day. It's going 
to be a majestic event, and the rooms are just really beautiful, formal 
rooms that I think you would find amazing.
    Red shirt, right there.

The Presidency

    Student. [Inaudible]
    The President. Favorite what?
    Student. [Inaudible]
    The President. I can't hear either question.
    Two red shirts. Yes, ma'am, go ahead.
    Student. Are you looking forward to getting out of your office?
    The President. Am I looking forward to getting out of the office? 
No. [Laughter] I enjoy it. It's been a great experience. This is a job 
where you can actually make a huge difference in people's lives, and I 
like that; I like that part of it--part of the job.
    Yes, sir, back to you.
    Student. What's your most favorite thing----
    The President. Most favorite thing--helping people, to make a 
difference in people's lives, setting a good example, so that youngsters 
like yourself realize that democracy is--can be a very good system, that 
politics is a noble calling. I hope that I can inspire people to get 
involved in the political process. I hope I can inspire people to get 
involved with helping neighbors in need in Crawford, Texas. I hope I can 
help raise the bar, make sure every child is educated. And I hope to 
make the world more peaceful.
    And that's a pretty big agenda, and the President has got a chance 
to do those things. And I'm honored to be able to do it.
    Yes, sir.

President's Car

    Student. [Inaudible]
    The President. My limo? I don't have one here. I've got an SUV here.
    Yes, ma'am.

President's Education

    Student. Where did you go to college?
    The President. Yale University.
    Next. Yes.

President's Autograph

    Student. Can I have your autograph?
    The President. No. [Laughter] I mean, yes, of course. I'll sign one, 
and we'll--let you copy it.

President's Age

    Student. How old are you?
    The President. How old am I? I'm the speed limit. [Laughter] Fifty-
five.
    Student. [Inaudible]
    The President. Well, the old speed limit.
    Yes, Donna.

Little League

    Student. What is your favorite childhood memory?
    The President. My favorite childhood memory was playing Little 
League baseball in Midland, Texas. I was--I loved baseball, still love 
baseball. As a matter of fact, I'm going to the Little League World 
Series on Sunday. So we're going to fly out of Waco, and I'm going to go 
to a picnic in

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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and then go to the Little League World Series, 
and then I'm going to come home. I'll be back home here Sunday night. So 
it's a pretty fast life I'm living these days.

President's Inauguration

    Student. How did it--you just became President. How has it----
    The President. Well, when I got sworn in as President, it was a 
pretty cold day in Washington, DC. And it was--the Inaugural ceremony 
was at the end of a pretty pressure-packed time. One, the election--I 
campaigned hard in the election. Secondly, we weren't sure what the 
outcome was. You might remember that period of time. It took a period--
it took about 30-something days to figure out who the President was 
going to be. I spent a lot of my time here in Crawford, as a matter of 
fact.
    And then when I was declared the winner, we had to get moving, 
because I had to put an administration together, had to put a team 
together. And we got up to Washington--I went from Crawford to Midland, 
Texas, where I was raised, and then flew up to Washington and got 
settled in in what they call the Blair House.
    And the Inaugural Day came, and I got sworn in. And I guess I had a 
lot of mixed emotions. One, I was exhilarated. I--gave a very--what I 
thought was a pretty good speech. The people seemed to listen to it. I 
turned around, and there was my dad and mother, and they had tears in 
their eyes, so it was emotional. And it was just a lot of activity. It's 
hard to describe, but it was a real proud moment. And then frankly, that 
night, I was a little tired.
    But I get to work early. I'm excited about my job. I'm one of these 
early-bird type people, like I'll be in the Oval Office at about 7 
o'clock every morning, because I'm anxious to get to work. I like what 
I'm doing. And it's been a great honor.
    Yes, sir.

President's Travel

    Student. Have you been to China?
    The President. I have not--yes, I've been to China, but I haven't 
been to China since I've been President. But guess where I'm going in 
October? China. [Laughter]
    Lets, see, who hasn't had a question? Yes, sir.

President's Round of Golf

    Student. What did you score at the end of the golf game?
    The President. It was too high to count. [Laughter] A lot. 
[Laughter]
    Yes.

President's Travel

    Student. Have you been to----
    The President. Been to where?
    Student. Speegleville.
    The President. No, I haven't been there yet. Do you recommend it?
    Student. That's where I'm from.
    The President. Oh, you live there.
    Student. I live there, too.
    The President. You live in Speegleville? That's great.
    Yes, ma'am, in the glasses. Yes, ma'am.

Presidential Decisionmaking

    Student. Is it hard to make the decisions as President?
    The President. Is it hard to make decisions as President? Not 
really. If you know what you believe, decisions come pretty easy. If 
you're one of these types of people that are always trying to figure out 
which way the wind is blowing, decisionmaking can be difficult. But I 
find that--I know who I am. I know what I believe in, and I know where I 
want to lead the country. And most of the decisions come pretty easily 
for me, to be frank with you.
    I realize sometimes people don't like the decisions. But that's 
okay. I've never been one who's trying to please everybody all the time. 
I just do what I think is right. The good thing about democracy, if 
people like the decisions you make, they'll let you

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stay. If they don't, they'll send me back to Crawford. Isn't all that 
bad a deal, by the way.
    Yes.

Texas

    Student. [Inaudible]
    The President. Why do I live in this State? I love Texas. I was 
raised in Texas. Texas has got a way of life that I really like. I like 
the can-do attitude of the Texas people. Texans are really caring 
people. It's a great place to live. You know, I've changed my address, 
but I haven't changed my home.
    Okay, a couple more, and then I've got to go. Yes, ma'am. No, you're 
first, and then you're second--unless you have the same question.

President's Travel

    Student. How many important places do you go in a week?
    The President. How many places do I go in a week? Well, it just 
depends on the week. When I went to Europe, it seemed like I was going 
to a country every day. And I travel around some, but I spend a lot of 
time in Washington, at my office, particularly when the United States 
Congress is in town, because I get to deal with the Congressmen and the 
Senators. A lot of them come down to the White House to say hello, and 
we have nice discussions about different issues.
    But I travel--sometimes travel a lot and sometimes not so much.
    Yes, ma'am.

President's Hobbies

    Student. What are your hobbies?
    The President. Hobbies? I like to fish. I like to exercise. And by 
the way, I hope everybody takes some time to exercise. It's really--it's 
really important. That's a good way to stay healthy, even if you only 
walk 20 minutes a day. But I love to exercise. I like to play golf. I'm 
not very good at it, but I like to play. I like to read a lot. I hope 
you read. I've read a couple of books since I've been down here. It's 
very important to read a lot.
    Anybody got anything over there?

Nomination for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    Q. Mr. President, you plan to make an announcement tomorrow, we're 
led to believe, on a new Chairman for the Joint Chiefs----
    The President. There will be a press conference tomorrow, and----
    Q. Could you tell us, if you don't want to tell us who it is, what 
is the message you intend to send to the world?
    The President. Tomorrow; I'm going to talk about that tomorrow. 
Thanks.
    Yes.

ABM Treaty

    Q. Mr. President, when will you put President Putin on notice that 
the 6-month clock is running on U.S. withdrawal from the ABM?
    The President. We'll have, on the--she's talking about what they 
call the ABM Treaty, which is a treaty signed in 1972. And I have made 
it clear that I think the treaty is a treaty that hampers our ability to 
keep the peace, to develop defensive weapons necessary to defend America 
against the true threats of the 21st century.
    We will withdraw from the ABM Treaty on our timetable, at a time 
convenient to America. Now, one of the things I've said in the course of 
questions about the ABM Treaty, I've said that we would consult closely 
with our allies in Europe as well as continue to consult closely with 
Mr. Putin.
    I have no specific timetable in mind. I do know that the ABM Treaty 
hampers us from doing what we need to do. And secondly, I do know that 
Mr. Putin is aware of our desires to move 
beyond the ABM Treaty. And we will.
    Yes, Sonya [Sonya Ross, Associated Press].

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Nomination for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    Q. Sir, as you've looked for a new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff, what have you been looking for? What have you been considering?
    The President. I have been looking for--and it's not just me, of 
course. It's the Secretary of Defense; 
we've been in collaboration. We've been looking for someone who will 
bring the highest standards of excellence to the office, someone who is 
willing to think differently about the missions of our military how to 
conform--the fundamental question is, how do we conform our defenses to 
the true threats that face America not, only now but in the out years?
    I'm looking for somebody, obviously, with experience, somebody who 
understands what the job is, what the job entails. And we found that 
person.
    Q. Is it General Myers?
    The President. I'm not going to tell you who it is until the 
appropriate time.
    You just saw a good reporter, how a good reporter asks questions. 
See, she's trying to get me to say something I don't want to say. 
[Laughter] But that's her job. That's her job, is to try to jump the 
news.
    But tomorrow we will have a full discussion on defense matters, and 
that subject may be included.
    Yes.

Federal Budget

    Q. The Mid-Session Review came out yesterday, and outside of the 
Social Security surplus, there isn't much of a surplus left. Are you 
concerned, when Congress gets back, there won't be room for your 
education or defense priorities?
    The President. No, I think if--the Mid-Session Review showed that 
the budgets we submitted not only are in balance but meet the priorities 
that I think are important, including defense and education.
    I'll tell you what these numbers are showing. They're showing that 
we've inherited an economic slowdown. And the country is in an economic 
slowdown. And so what a President should ask and what the Congress 
should ask is, what can we do to stimulate economic growth? And we 
responded with tax relief.
    Now, evidently, there are some people in Washington, DC, who are 
having second thoughts about tax relief. And so my question to them is, 
do they want to raise taxes? Do they suggest that helping the economy 
grow--a good way to do so is to raise taxes? If that's the case, that's 
a brand new economic theory.
    The way to stimulate growth is to cut taxes, and we have done so. 
Now it is going to be incumbent upon the Congress to make sure they 
don't overspend. And the surest way to make sure the economy does not 
recover is to bust the budget. And one of my jobs as the President is to 
make sure that we don't bust the budget. I will use the veto to make 
sure that Congress stays within the budget.
    There is--we have the second largest surplus in the Nation's 
history. We're paying down over $100 billion of debt, in spite of the 
fact the economy is slow. But this tax relief package is going to help 
our economy recover, and that is going to be important.

Immigration Policy

    Q. Sir, what is your timetable for amnesty for illegals, or----
    The President. There will be no blanket amnesty for illegals. I have 
said that point blank. I will say it as many times as I need to say it. 
I'm more than willing to talk to the Mexican officials about how to help 
willing employers find willing employees, how to treat people with 
respect once they're here in the country. I think we ought to have a 
good, honest dialog about how we make sure our neighbors to the south do 
a better job of enforcing their own border. We've got great 
collaborative efforts going now on a wide variety of fronts. Relations 
with Mexico have never been better.

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    But there is going to be no amnesty. Amnesty is not the right answer 
to the immigration issue.
    Now, there are ways for us to discuss, as I said, a worker program 
of some type that will legalize the hard work that is taking place now 
in America. So long as there is somebody who wants to hire somebody and 
somebody willing to work, it seems like to me it's in our Nation's 
interest to make sure the two go together.

Representative Gary Condit

    Q. Mr. President, I don't know if you think this is being a good 
reporter or not, but seriously, you----
    The President. Probably not. [Laughter] But if it's not, I won't 
embarrass you in front of--anyway----
    Q. You've talked a lot about family values and personal 
responsibility. For better or worse, so much of the country seems to be 
focused on this controversy involving Congressman Condit.
    The President. Yes, I'm not going to discuss Congressman Condit. 
Evidently, he's making a statement to the Nation tonight, and let's just 
see what he says.
    Q. Will you watch it?
    The President. No, probably not. I'll read about it, maybe in AP or 
Reuters; I'm not sure which one.

Senator Jesse Helms

    Q. Sir, what is your reaction to Senator Helms' decision to retire, 
and are you concerned that that seat might be in jeopardy for the 
Republicans?
    The President. It depends on who runs, obviously. Senator Helms has 
served our Nation with distinction. I called him yesterday, had a good 
visit with him. I told him I appreciated his service to America. He 
explained to me he and Dot wanted to 
take some time to be together after the sessions--after his term is up, 
and I said, ``I appreciate that, Senator. You served well.''
    I'll tell you one thing about Senator Helms, he was a gentleman. You 
may not have agreed with his politics all the time, but he was a 
gentleman about it. He brought a lot of class, I thought, to the Senate, 
and he will be missed. And it depends on who we field, obviously.
    Q. Would you support Elizabeth Dole as a candidate?
    The President. Well, I'm not--as you know, one of the things the 
President doesn't do is get involved in all the speculation on these 
run-ups for these different candidacies. I will tell you, Elizabeth 
Dole would make a fine candidate. I've 
competed against her once before, and she was formidable and a fine 
lady, there's no question about that.
    But I'm not going to get involved in the primaries. I'll, of course, 
look forward--if she is the nominee of the 
Republican Party in North Carolina, I, of course, will campaign hard for 
her.
    Okay. Listen, I want to thank you all for giving me a chance to come 
by. Good luck to you all. What you just watched is a mini press 
conference.

Note: The President spoke at 11:08 a.m. in the cafeteria. In his 
remarks, he referred to Linda Stout, principal, Crawford Elementary 
School; President Fernando de la Rua of Argentina; President Vladimir 
Putin of Russia; and Dorothy ``Dot'' Helms, wife of Senator Helms. A 
reporter referred to Gen. Richard B. Myers, USAF, Vice Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff.