[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: George W. Bush (2001, Book II)]
[August 21, 2001]
[Pages 1006-1008]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



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Remarks to Families at a Target Store and an Exchange With Reporters in 
Kansas City, Missouri
August 21, 2001

    The President. Good morning, everybody. I'm excited to be here at 
Target. A lot of these folks have--some of the folks have got their 
rebate check; some of them are getting them. But I suggest you talk to 
the Target people about what the rebate check has meant for their 
business. One of the main reasons why we insisted that people get money 
back was to provide a second wind for our economy. And the other reason 
why is because we recognize that these good folks spend their money just 
as wisely, if not more wisely, than the Government can.
    I remember in the debate, people said, ``Well, $600 doesn't mean 
much.'' Well, I suggest you ask people who got the $600 what it means. 
It seems to mean a lot to a lot of folks.

[At this point, the President greeted audience members and then took 
questions from reporters.]

Federal Budget/Tax Relief

    The President. Okay.
    Q. Mr. President, would you like to see Social Security kind of 
taken out of the budget equation? You are going to have like a billion-
dollar surplus just from general revenues tomorrow. Do you think that's 
a fair way of figuring out the surplus?
    The President. I think what I said in the speech was what I mean, 
that Social Security ought to be spent on Social Security, and OMB 
numbers show that that's the way it's going to be. That hasn't been the 
case; seven out of the last eight budgets have used Social Security 
for--they used Social Security funds for other matters. And we worked 
with Congress--see, here's the problem. A lot in Congress are upset that 
we passed money back to the people because they wanted to spend it on 
pet projects, on bigger appropriations. And what I am saying is, that 
battle's over with.
    We cut the taxes; it was the right thing to do. It was the right 
thing to trust the people with the money. It was the right thing for our 
economy. And Congress now needs to understand that there are some new 
parameters. When you pass money back to the people, it means there is 
not that much money available for additional programs, and they need to 
be fiscally sound.
    We've got a good budget. And the fundamental question is, will the 
appropriators stick to the budget? And I am confident they will if they 
listen to the people.
    And one of the reasons why we came here is to highlight the fact 
that the tax relief plan is important to hard-working Americans. Some 
people said, you know, ``Thanks for giving us the money.'' Well, it's 
their money to begin with. That's the point I keep making. It's not the 
Government's money; it's the people's money. And these good folks have 
got a reason to spend it. A lot of them are going to spend it on school 
supplies. But it's not only important for them; it's important for our 
economy.
    Q. Sir, the ad team for Al Gore's last campaign put out an ad today 
for the Democratic National Committee accusing you of raiding the 
Medicare Trust Fund and asking you to take Harry Truman's plain-
spokenness and tell the people the truth. Is that fair?
    The President. Well, you know, there's a lot of people still want to 
politicize the budget. They like the old-time wars of zero-sum politics. 
There are a lot of big spenders, a lot of highly partisan people that 
really didn't like the tax cut to begin with. They want the Government 
to have

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the people's money. They believe in bigger Government.
    And all I do is rest my case with the people. And the people wanted 
tax relief. The people want fiscal sanity in Washington. The people want 
all the money going into Medicare to be spent on Medicare, and that's 
what my budget does. And people also want a good defense for our 
country. And I hope, at the very minimum, the leadership in the Congress 
will give us the Defense appropriation number and the Education 
appropriation number early in the process, so that we don't rob defense 
or rob education by holding those appropriation bills late.
    Q. Sir, where do you draw the line in terms of using your veto power 
this fall? Is it sticking to the budget resolution numbers? Or----
    The President. The budget resolution number's a good place to begin. 
Because if we appropriate, of course, for the budget, we will not only 
be able to afford the tax relief, but we won't touch Social Security, 
and we will be able to fund the Nation's priorities, including education 
and defense.
    As you know, you heard my speech yesterday--should have heard my 
speech or will pay to hear my speech--and whether or not you listen to 
it is another question--but we have--I have requested a good deal of 
money for defense, and it's needed.

Possibility of Government Shutdown

    Q. Sir, you know, in the Clinton administration, they had some 
battles up there. They had to shut down the Government from 
overspending. They wanted more money.
    The President. Yes. Right. A new sheriff in town.
    Q. If it comes down to a showdown about closing down Government, are 
you prepared to----
    The President. I am confident we won't have to shut down the--shut 
down the Government. There are things such as continuing resolutions. 
There's ways for us to make sure that the budget--I mean, the Government 
doesn't get shut down over a budget fight.
    You're right, the last administration was anxious for the Government 
to spend more money. I want the Government to spend the right amount of 
money. And we have achieved a good balance. It's not only money to fund 
priorities such as education, defense, and health care, but it is money 
available for the taxpayers. It's their money to begin with.
    And our economy needs--I love the discussion, you know, the tax cut 
means there's less money available to spend. Well, what the tax cut is, 
it means that we've been given an opportunity to revitalize our economy, 
so that the tax revenues that have been lost because of economic 
slowdown come back into the Treasury.

Effect of Tax Relief

    Q. Mr. President, do you think that the purchasing of school 
supplies and things people would buy ordinarily will, in fact, jump-
start the economy?
    The President. No, I think it's a cumulative. If you try to look at 
one isolated incident, it's easy to belittle $600 in a person's pocket. 
But $600 of additional disposable income all across America--that 
amounts to billions of dollars--will provide a part of the equation for 
economic recovery. Of course, if somebody buys a pencil, somebody's had 
to make it. But it is not just school supplies. That maybe kind of 
diminishes the effect of billions of dollars getting into the economy in 
a very quick period of time.
    I want to remind you all about a year ago, the discussion about tax 
relief was sometimes in political circles belittled as an impossibility. 
No one would have dreamed that we would not only have gotten tax relief 
but this amount of money injected into the economy as quickly as we did. 
And it's a part of the equation.

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Governor Bill Graves of Kansas

    Q. You broke bread with Governor Graves last night.
    The President. I did.
    Q. Why Governor Graves, and what did you talk about?
    The President. Well, I was hoping I could maybe get him to buy my 
meal.
    Q. He didn't?
    The President. He didn't, no. Please record the fact that I paid, 
much to my chagrin.
    We talked about just politics. He and Linda are friends of mine. He's done a great job as the 
Governor of Kansas, and he's one of my best friends that I've made in 
politics amongst the Governors. Just had a nice visit.
    Q. Have a future with you some day?
    The President. You know, we didn't spend much time talking about 
that. He has not finished his term yet. Maybe, you know.

President's Tax Rebate

    Q. Mr. President, what are you going to do with your tax rebate?
    The President. Charity.
    Q. Really? Which one?
    The President. I don't know yet.
    Q. You haven't gotten it?
    The President. Not to my knowledge.
    Q. Why charity?
    The President. Why? Because it's something people ought to do. And I 
believe in supporting charities. As you know, every year when I put out 
my income tax returns, you see the fact that I do give to charities, 
give to my church. I haven't made up my mind yet.
    Thank you all for your time.

President's Vacation Schedule

    Q. Are you going to talk to us--you going to talk to us tomorrow? 
Play golf and maybe talk to us?
    The President. Do what?
    Q. You're going to have the budget review tomorrow. Do you think you 
might talk to us from the golf course or someplace?
    The President. I won't be playing golf tomorrow. Probably--I may--
just keep loose this week. I may have a discussion with you on some 
matters later on this week.
    Q. Military matters, perhaps?
    The President. I ain't telling.
    Q. Buildings with five sides?
    Q. No more hints?
    The President. No, the last time we--I'm trying to get a picnic 
organized so you all can come out to the ranch. Is this the--are you the 
last shift?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. Okay, last shift. Up until when we go. We're leaving 
Thursday, now. We're going back Thursday morning, the 30th.
    Q. Wow, even earlier?
    Q. The 30th?
    The President. We're going back on the 30th. Laura wants to get back a day early.
    Q. How's the bass fishing going?
    The President. They've actually gotten up to about a pound. They're 
growing. The lake's evaporating because it's so hot.
    Okay, see you there.

Note: The President spoke at 10:36 a.m. in the snackbar at the Kansas 
City North Target store. In his remarks, he referred to Linda Richey 
Graves, wife of Gov. Bill Graves. A tape was not available for 
verification of the content of these remarks.