[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: GEORGE W. BUSH (2001, Book I)]
[March 29, 2001]
[Pages 335-338]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]
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Remarks Prior to Discussions With Chancellor Gerhard
Schroeder of Germany and an Exchange With
Reporters
March 29, 2001
President Bush. It's my honor to welcome the German Chancellor here
to the Oval Office. We've just had a very constructive lunch. The
briefers told me that the Chancellor is a very straightforward person.
They were right, and for that I am grateful, because we were able to get
to the point.
And the first point we made--and you'll see this in the joint
communique we issued--is that our countries are strong friends. I
assured the Chancellor that my administration will work to keep our
relations strong. We agree on many, many issues; there's a few we didn't
agree on. But as good friends, we can disagree and yet still be friends.
I appreciate the leadership of the Chancellor. I appreciate so very
much Germany's role, for example, in trying to keep the peace in
Macedonia. By working together, we can stabilize that region. The
Government of Macedonia is a government made up of different factions.
We, of course, are working together to make sure that the legitimate
rights of all people in Macedonia are recognized. Germany has done more
than just work the diplomatic side; they've also provided troops in the
KFOR, along with the United States, to enforce the border. And as a
result of our joint efforts, there is good hope that the region will be
stable.
And for that, Mr. Chancellor, thank you for your leadership. It's an
honor to welcome you here, sir.
Chancellor Schroeder. Thank you very much, Mr. President, for those
very kind words. Ladies and gentlemen, now let me share with you how
very pleased, indeed, I am that after having two phone calls so far, I
now had an opportunity of finally meeting the President in person.
Let me also share with you that it was a very, very pleasant
impression I had, indeed. It was wonderful to see the degree of openness
that we had, the frankness we had in the meeting, and also the level of
agreement that there was between us.
Mr. President is very right, indeed, when he emphasizes the fact
that the ties between the United States of America and Germany are very,
very firm. They're very friendly ties which are, in fact, based on joint
values that we share and that are deeply rooted in each of our
Constitutions, too.
Now, we have obviously addressed a wide range of international
topics, questions, and international political affairs. There was a lot
of agreement. I can agree with Mr. President; we agreed on practically
everything, except, obviously, for one thing, and that was no surprise
to you, the Kyoto Protocol.
But here, yet as well, we have different opinions, and we are happy
to admit to you that we hold different opinions regarding this. We were
also happy to admit to one another that we had different positions on
this. But here, too, we very much would like to see to it that we,
hopefully, jointly act on other fields in and around--on climate policy.
We have addressed the subject of solar energy, for example. We have said
that there would be ways of energy efficiency, of more efficient use of
energy as such. So we will be conjointly looking at some topics that
could all contribute to a better climate in the future.
And to all of that, yet again, we have done on the basis of this
very, very friendly spirit that reigned between us; a basis is not only
one that can take the strain of this, but it will, indeed, and happily
so.
In a nutshell, one last thing I would like to say. We are both
firmly convinced that
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it is a prime aspect of both of our jobs to make sure that the economies
in our respective countries are going well and strongly, and we have to
keep them robust. And where that is not the case, we have to get them
back on track.
President Bush. We'll take two questions from the Americans and two
questions from the German press, alternating.
Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change
Q. Mr. President, on the Kyoto Protocol, the friendly atmosphere
here is not matched in some statements in the German Government in
Berlin and in other capitals. What's your reaction to the criticism that
you've abandoned the effort to contain global warming? And what in
particular don't you like about the Kyoto Protocols?
And Mr. Chancellor, what practical, pragmatic effect will this
difference of opinion have on the effort against global warming?
President Bush. Well, first, I explained this as clearly as I could
to the Chancellor, and I'm glad to do it again to you. I did so earlier
in a press conference, as you may remember.
Our economy has slowed down in a country--in our country. We also
have an energy crisis. And the idea of placing caps on
CO2 does not make economic sense for America. And while I
worry about emissions--and we'll work together to achieve efficiencies
through new technologies, and I'm confident we can do that--I'm also
worried about the fact that people may not be finding jobs in America.
And I will consult with our friends. We will work together. But it's
going to be in what's in the interest of our country, first and
foremost, Terry [Terry Moran, ABC News]. And the idea that somehow we're
supposed to get enormous amounts of natural gas on line immediately, in
order to be able to conform to a treaty that our own Senate sent a very
overwhelming message against and many other countries haven't signed,
makes no economic sense; it makes no common sense.
So I'm worried about our economy. I'm worried about our own domestic
energy situation. But I'm confident we can find new ways to think about
reducing greenhouse gases. And I look forward to working with a country
like Germany. Germany is on the leading edge of technology. They've got
some of the greatest engineers in the world. And together we can work
together to come up with new efficiencies.
Chancellor Schroeder. Obviously, those are all the fields of
cooperation which the President just mentioned and which I obviously
very highly welcome.
Regarding the Kyoto Protocol, we have the pleasure of hosting the
successor conference to the one in The Hague, in Germany this year. And,
well, when it comes to that, His Excellency the President and his
government will be called upon to take a decision as to how they, to put
it casually, want to play it with protocol and with the ongoing
conference in Germany--whether they will, on the one-hand side, which
would be a possibility, give an opportunity to others to still continue
with what they think is right by not voting against it, or to not do so.
Now, obviously, this is an issue for the President and his country
to decide. But we very strongly have agreed that the conference, as I
just said, is going to take place, I think, in June or July, in Germany,
that our respective staff are going to get together and talk about the
issue.
President Bush. Somebody from the German press?
Q. How are the 14 EU heads of state going to feel about the reaction
that you just stated to the Kyoto problem and to the President's
attitude about it? I would have so clearly expected you to be against it
and speak up against it, obviously, so how are they now going to feel?
Chancellor Schroeder. No, I certainly have no headache about that
whatsoever. I have heard what the President has said
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regarding this matter. Not only I have heard it, people in Europe have
heard it, too. And some of the European governments have heard it and
have criticized it, obviously. That is a normal process in politics. And
we'll take it on from there. Obviously, we'll continue discussing these
issues.
National Missile Defense/European Strike Force
Q. Mr. President, did military matters come up today, specifically,
missile defense, European strike force?
President Bush. Missile defense came up, you bet. And we'll talk
about the European strike force after you clear the room. But I'm
looking forward to it. Our joint communique addresses a lot of these
issues.
I explained this to the Chancellor, that we want to help folks think
differently about the post-cold-war era and we want to develop defenses
that are capable defending ourselves, defenses that are capable of
defending others who so choose to, against the true threats of the 21st
century. Russia is not our enemy. The true threat of the 21st century is
the extremists who can't stand what Germany or America believes in. They
resent our freedoms. They resent our successes. They resent our
prosperity. And I look forward to working with our friend as we move
down the road toward assessing and addressing the true threats that face
us.
I'll let the Chancellor speak for himself on his view. But I've
found there to be somebody who is at least interested in our point of
view, and for that, I'm grateful.
Chancellor Schroeder. Here, too, yet again, I can say that I cannot
recommend taking a lump-sum view, a generic view at whatever we're
talking about. And we shouldn't have a generic view regarding NMD or
missile defense, either.
Now, obviously, I think in assessing such a comprehensive topic we
also have to look at things like the defensive potential that lies
within a potential system. We have to see the potential upside in terms
of disarmament opportunities that might be in there.
Obviously, we'll also have to look into lots of technical aspects,
such as the threat scenario that is behind the whole system. Is it
technologically feasible? Can we truly implement it? Who is going to be
covered under the shelter? Who's going to be invited to be included by
the shelter that we're going to build? What are going to be
repercussions for the global disarmament process? What are going to be
the repercussions on Russia and on China, for example?
Those are all things that I think we need to think about and talk
about in an ongoing process. And I can only say how very pleased,
indeed, I was to see that the President declared himself ready for an
open, ongoing discussion about all of these things.
President Bush. Okay, since Terry asked two questions, it's over.
[Laughter]
Q. Mr. President, were you able--concerning the U.S. defense system,
would Europe and Germany, as part of Europe, be able to contribute and
to participate in? Was that something you were able to offer and assure
the Chancellor of?
And Mr. Chancellor, would you be able to say that you'd be willing
to participate when the time comes?
President Bush. Well, first of all, it's my first chance to sit down
with the Chancellor and explain our philosophy about how we're trying to
shape the thinking in the post-cold-war era.
I did explain to him what I've explained to the American people,
that not only do we need to develop defenses, but we're also going to
reduce our own offensive capability. And maybe people will follow; maybe
they won't. But we're going to move, anyway, once the Defense Department
puts a thorough review as to what we need to keep the peace.
In terms of whether or not we develop a technology that will help
make Europe more peaceful or America more peaceful
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or the Middle East more peaceful, whatever it is, I'd be more than
willing to discuss the technologies and share technologies with our
friends.
But we haven't gotten--you know, today was the first step toward me
making the rationale as to why I took the position I took. And the
positive development, I thought, was that the Chancellor was listening
and understood--I believe understood the philosophy and the peaceful
philosophy inherent in our strategy.
Chancellor Schroeder. I think it would be wrong at this point in
time to assume that what we're trying to do here is that we're kick-
starting an armament process for the whole of the world. My personal
perspective is that I think the contrary will be the case. And I think
the debate about involvement and who does what in the process is one
that will come subsequent to having discussed the general, basic things.
But then, certainly, when it comes to the involvement and also
participation in terms of industrial policy, certainly we'll be
interested.
President Bush. Nice to see you all.
Note: The President spoke at 12:53 p.m. in the Oval Office at the White
House. Chancellor Schroeder spoke in German, and his remarks were
translated by an interpreter. A tape was not available for verification
of the content of these remarks.