[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: WILLIAM J. CLINTON (2000-2001, Book III)]
[November 2, 2000]
[Pages 2420-2422]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Interview on the Tom Joyner Morning Show
November 2, 2000

    Q. Four more years! Four more years! [Laughter]

Morning Show Commercials

    The President. What I want to know is, where did you make that ad 
where you walk in the White House and the house comes down?
    Q. This is an ad that runs in Washington for our radio station.
    The President. Do your listeners know that you actually tore the 
White House down? Do they know that? [Laughter] Have you concealed that 
from them? [Laughter]
    Q. You watched that, huh?
    The President. I do.
    Q. We have a commercial that runs in the Washington area where--
anyway. [Laughter]
    The President. He walks into a mockup of the White House and it 
comes down. [Laughter]
    Q. I'm glad you watched that. I'm glad to know that you listen to 
the show.
    The President. I keep up with you.
    Q. Thank you, sir. And we keep up with you, too, and sincerely, it 
would be nice if we could get 4 more years from you. It's been a good 8 
years for us.

2000 Election

    The President. But you can get the next best thing. I'll tell you, 
we've got to win this election, and I feel very strongly that we're 
going to win it if our folks vote. All these polls that show it close 
and show Governor Bush a point or two ahead, 
all those polls are premised on an assumption that African-American and 
Hispanic voters and first-generation immigrants will not vote in the 
same percentages that the Republican base will vote. That's what they're 
premised on.
    I remember in Mississippi last year, where the African-American vote 
equaled the white vote, for the first time ever, a Democratic candidate 
for Governor was elected by 6,300 votes. And he was six points behind in 
the polls. So that's what--the power here is with the young people and 
with the folks that have done well in these last 8 years.
    One of the things that I want to point out that I'm proudest of is 
that we fought for policies and Al Gore 
fought for policies that would guarantee that when this economy came 
back, for the first time in 30 years, it wouldn't just be the wealthiest 
Americans who would do well. They would do well, but everybody else 
would do well, too. Average income has gone up by over $5,000 in this 
country, and African-American unemployment is at the lowest point in 
history. And I think that alone is a good argument to stick with this 
economic policy, especially when the alternative is going back to 
deficits and underinvesting in education.
    Q. And Mr. President, history has shown that with the votes that 
have--or with the election such as 1960 and even '68, how just one vote 
in maybe a ward or two would have made a difference and turned history 
around then, too.
    The President. Oh, absolutely. John Kennedy won by four-tenths of 
one percent. Hubert Humphrey lost by a percent. Jimmy Carter won by a 
percent, one vote out of 100. And this race could well be that close. 
And I can tell you there are at least five States today that are within 
one percent. There are another five States that are within 2 percent. 
That's how close this election is.

Ralph Nader/Youth Vote

    Q. And the Republicans are buying spots for Ralph Nader in some of 
these States.
    The President. They are buying spots for Nader? What does that tell 
you?
    Q. Yeah.
    The President. You know, one of the things that bothers me is that I 
think young people

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have the biggest stake in this election and may feel alienated from it 
because so much of the debate has been about Social Security and 
Medicare drug programs for seniors. But I'd like to make a couple of 
points about that for young people.
    First of all, I'm the oldest of the baby boomers. I'm 54 years old. 
And one of the reasons that the young people should care about this 
debate is all the people my age are very worried that when we retire--
that is, people between the ages of 36 and 54, that's the baby boom--
when we retire we don't want to impose a burden on our children and on 
our grandchildren. So that's a big issue. So when Al Gore says, ``I'll 
put 20 years on the life of Social Security,'' and his opponent says, 
``I'll take a trillion dollars out of the Social Security Trust Fund,'' 
that's a big difference there. And it's important.
    But also, our administration has a good environmental record. That's 
going to be more important for the future. Al Gore knows more about technology, how to maximize the benefits 
of the Internet, how to close the digital divide, how to create new 
economic opportunities in underserved areas, areas that still haven't 
fully felt the prosperity, which is a big issue. He's worked on that for 
8 years now through our empowerment zones, and we've got a plan to get 
billions and billions of dollars in investment in new businesses and new 
jobs in the areas that still have unemployment that is too high or 
income that's too low. So I think the young people have the biggest 
stake of all in this election.

Supreme Court/Republican Congress

    Q. And also, when you think about the Supreme Court, sir, and what--
--
    Q. Huge issue.
    Q. ----you've done with the Supreme Court and the ability to carry 
on into the next----
    The President. Yes. I only got two appointments, I regret to say, 
but they have upheld civil rights, and they've upheld a woman's right to 
choose, and they've upheld the right of the National Government to 
protect the interest of the American people. But there are--we're one 
vote away from reversing Roe v. Wade, and we are dangerously close to 
something that could be even more severe. We're dangerously close to a 
permanent majority on this Court that will restrict the ability of the 
United States Government, both the President and the Congress, to 
protect the American people in fundamental ways.
    This Court had five votes to invalidate a provision of the Brady 
bill, which is the background check law on handguns, because it required 
the States to help. They invalidated a section of the violence against 
women law because it required the States to help. They invalidated a 
provision of a law against age discrimination. I mean, so I cannot--the 
American people have probably no idea how important that is.
    And one other thing I'd like to say: We've got a chance to win the 
House and the Senate. But if we don't, there needs to be somebody here 
in the White House to restrain this Republican Congress. Let's not 
forget all the things they've tried to do that I stopped. They tried to 
shut down the Department of Education. They had the biggest education 
cuts in history, the biggest environmental cuts in history. They've 
tried to pass all kinds of restrictions on our ability to protect the 
health and safety of people in the workplace. So that's another big 
point.
    Q. They turned your hair from black to white.
    The President. They turned my hair from black to white. I earned 
every one of these gray hairs. [Laughter]

First Lady's Senate Campaign

    Q. And wouldn't it be nice to have two Democratic Senators from the 
great State of New York?
    The President. Oh, that would be really nice. You know, I'm really 
proud of Hillary, and I knew that she 
was doing well when her opponent made 500,000 
phone calls accusing her of being tied to terrorists. That was really 
sinking to the bottom of the barrel. [Laughter] And I think she's got 
that turned around.
    She's up there trying to run on 
the issues. I mean, I think that if people care about education, if they 
care about child care, if they think about balancing work and family, if 
they want younger people, as well as older people, to have access to 
health insurance, people like Hillary and Al Gore and Joe Lieberman, those 
are the kind of people we need to be promoting, because this country is 
in great shape. But we need to build on what we've got, not reverse it.

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President's Future Plans

    Q. That's right, sir. And sir, I'm going to say it now because I 
probably won't get a chance to say it before you leave office. We're 
going to really miss you.
    Q. Thank you so much, sir.
    The President. Well, I hope you'll--you know, call me now and then. 
We'll still talk on the radio. [Laughter] You may be the only guy who 
wants to talk to me when I'm not President anymore. [Laughter]
    Q. I know, because now the Republicans don't even want you to 
practice law. They've tried to hold that up on you, too.
    The President. I know. Well, they tell me that after the--for 3 or 4 
months I'll be lost when I leave office because when I walk in a room, 
nobody will play a song anymore. [Laughter]
    Q. We'll play a song for you.
    Q. We'll play some old school--yeah.
    The President. ----one of your songs for ``Hail To The Chief''--
how's that?
    Q. There you go.
    Q. Because we know what you like. [Laughter]
    The President. You've got a deal.
    Q. All right, President Clinton.

2000 Election

    The President. Again, I just want to say--I hope everybody listens--
you've got to show up Tuesday. You've got to be there. I mean, this 
election is every bit as important as the one that elected me in 1992. 
We've turned the country around. The last thing we need to do is go in 
reverse.
    Q. All right.
    The President. Thank you.
    Q. Thank you, sir.
    The President. Bye-bye.

Note: The interview began at 9:30 a.m. The President spoke by telephone 
from the Oval Office at the White House. In his remarks, he referred to 
Republican Presidential candidate Gov. George W. Bush of Texas.