[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: WILLIAM J. CLINTON (2000-2001, Book III)]
[October 21, 2000]
[Pages 2252-2257]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks at a Rally for Representative Julia Carson in Indianapolis
October 21, 2000

    The President. Wow! I'll tell you why I came here: Because Julia 
Carson asked me, and I always do whatever she asks me to do--
[laughter]--because I learned very early I could do it right away or I 
could just wait and let her grind on me until I finally broke down and 
said yes. So I just say yes right away to Julia now--[laughter]--and it 
solves a lot of my problems.
    Mr. Mayor, I'm glad to be back here in 
your city, and I'm very proud that you are now the mayor of this great 
city. And I want to thank my longtime friend Jeff Smulyan for helping Julia Carson. We were friends before I ran 
for President. Before I knew I was going to run for President, I met 
him. He was just--I was just what President Bush used to refer to as the 
Governor of a small southern State--[laughter]--when we became friends. 
And I thank you for helping Julia.
    Joe Andrew, I am so proud of you. He's 
got that riff down, doesn't he, old Joe does. I kind of wanted to run 
down here along the side and pass the plate when he was up there 
preaching. [Laughter] We knew he was preaching to the saved, and so I 
thought we ought to take up an offering here. [Laughter]
    Let me say, I'm really proud of what the Democrats have done in 
Indiana. I'm proud of your great Governor, 
and I want you to make sure he gets reelected. He deserves to be 
reelected. And I am very, very proud of your former Governor, Senator 
Evan Bayh, and what a great job he has done. We 
have also been friends for many, many years.
    So this is a great day for me, to come here to thank the people from 
Indiana who have sent such fine people into public office----
    Audience member. We love you, Mr. President!
    The President. ----and who have given us Julia Carson, who is truly 
one of a kind. Have you ever met anybody like Julia before in your whole 
life?
    Audience members. No-o-o!

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    The President. I tell this joke--she's talking about what a unifying 
force the Democratic Party is--Julia has got it all inside her. I told 
somebody, she may be an African-American woman, but she reminds me of a 
redneck county judge when she works the room. [Laughter] She kind of 
sidles into these rooms in Washington, and all these self-important 
people are there in their expensive suits, using these big words. And 
then Julia sort of sidles out, and she's got whatever it is she came in 
for, and they still don't know what happened. [Laughter] I mean, it's 
amazing, you know. She's like a stealth bomber for Indiana in 
Washington. She's got more moves than Larry Bird and Isaiah Thomas put 
together. She's got moves. Man, people don't see that stuff.
    So, yes, I wanted to come here. I'm sorry I couldn't come before. 
You know what I was doing. I was working on the peace process. 
[Applause] But now--wait a minute--I want to say a couple of things 
seriously. We're all having a good time, but we all agree with each 
other, or you wouldn't be here. And here's what I want to say to you.
    First, thank you. Thank you for helping me have a chance to serve 
the country for the last 8 years. I'm grateful to you. Second, I have 
been reading as much as I could while I've been running around the world 
and trying to get the Congress out of town, too--I've been reading what 
I could about what the experts are saying about this election. And they 
say it's tight as a tick, and they say that there are a lot of undecided 
voters, and they say that there are a lot of voters who aren't sure what 
the differences are and what the consequences are to them, so maybe it 
doesn't matter for whom they vote or whether they vote.
    Now, let me tell you something. I've done everything I could do for 
8 years to turn this country around, pull this country together, and 
move the country forward--everything I could do. But in America, our 
public life is always about tomorrow. Always about--that's why we're 
still around here after 224 years, because we're always thinking about 
tomorrow. Now, look at where we were 8 years ago and where we are now, 
and ask yourselves where we're going to go. I'm telling you, this is a 
huge election. You cannot afford for anybody to think that there aren't 
any differences, and it doesn't matter whether they vote or for whom 
they vote.
    And the interesting thing about this election to me is, from the 
elections for President and Vice President to the United States Senate--
and you know I've got a passing interest in that Senate race up in New 
York; I know something about that--[laughter]--to the races for Governor 
and for Congress, all over the country you see the same things. There 
are big differences. The differences will have real consequences, and 
only the Democrats want you to know what the differences are. What does 
that tell you about who you ought to vote for? I see it everywhere.
    So you've got the other side trying to cloud the differences and 
blur them, and we have to clarify them. And I just want to say, look, 8 
years ago the country was in the ditch economically. Eight years later 
we've got the longest economic expansion in history, the lowest 
unemployment in 30 years, 22 million new jobs, the lowest African-
American and Hispanic unemployment ever measured, the lowest poverty 
rate in 20 years, the biggest drop in child poverty in 34 years.
    Now, I got tickled--you know, when our Republican friends were in, 
they took credit for everything that happened in America. They took 
credit when the Sun came up. [Laughter] One of their campaigns was, 
``It's morning in America. The Sun came up in the morning. Give it to 
us. We did it.'' [Laughter] Now, everything that happens, happens by 
accident. Did you listen to these debates? I thought Al Gore's best moment in the first debate was when his 
opponent said, ``I think Clinton/Gore got more out of the economy than 
the economy got out of Clinton/Gore. The American people did this,'' you 
know. We just sort of were there. And Al Gore said, ``Well, you know, 
the American people did do this, but they were working hard 8 years ago, 
too, and they weren't doing nearly as well.''
    So the first big question is, do you want to continue the 
prosperity, build on it, expand it to people and places that have been 
left behind, and lift up this whole country? Now, you've got to talk to 
people, because how could anybody not see this? Look, they're offering a 
tax cut that's 3 times the size of the one that we're offering. But most 
people making under $100,000 are better off under our proposal than 
theirs--tax cuts to pay for college education, long-term care, child 
care, retirement savings,

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to get people to invest in the communities that have been left behind.
    Now, but theirs is 3 times bigger. And then they want to partially 
privatize Social Security, which means--forget about whether you think 
it's a good idea or not; let's just talk about the arithmetic. There are 
a lot of problems with the idea, but forget about that, talk about the 
arithmetic. Everybody here under 40--let's say, under 45--can take 2 
percent of your Social Security payroll tax, keep it, and put it in an 
investment account. Everybody like me, starting next year, who will be 
55 or over, gets a guarantee we're going to get it, just like they 
always promised it. Now, where's the money going to come from if you 
take away the money that they're going to pay my guarantee with? They've 
got to take that out of the surplus, too.
    So they've got a tax cut 3 times bigger than ours, a trillion dollar 
promise in Social Security to pay for the privatization, hundreds of 
billions of dollars in other promises. Look, folks, you need to tell 
people--they want to know why we did well in America. Because we brought 
arithmetic back to Washington. We made the numbers add up. These numbers 
don't add up.
    And look, this is a big deal. If you vote for a tax cut that big and 
you privatize Social Security at a trillion dollars, you spend several 
hundred billion dollars of it, you're back in deficit. And do you know 
what that means? High interest rates. If you vote for Al Gore and Joe Lieberman, Julia Carson and our whole crowd, do you know what it 
means? You'll have interest rates about one percent lower a year for a 
decade.
    Let me tell you what that amounts to in a tax cut. Listen to this, 
one percent lower interest rates: $390 billion in lower home mortgages; 
$30 billion in lower car payments; $15 billion in lower college loan 
payments; lower credit card payments; lower business loans--means higher 
profits, more folks getting hired, more pay raises, and a higher stock 
market. Our tax cut for all is low interest rates that keep this economy 
going and pay the debt off.
    Now, this is very important. Did you watch the debate where their 
guy says, our guy is for big Government? We're for big Government? 
There's a real problem with that argument, besides the fact that it's 
not true--it's manifestly not true. What do I mean by that? The size of 
the Federal Government today is the smallest it's been since 1960, when 
Dwight Eisenhower was President and John Kennedy was running for 
President. The Federal Government spending as a percentage of our 
economy is the smallest it's been since 1966. Why is that? We're paying 
down the debt.
    The third biggest item in the budget for your tax money is the debt. 
After Social Security and defense, the debt is the third highest sum in 
the budget. So we get rid of that, we can spend more on education, more 
on health care, pay for a tax cut, and still shrink the size of 
Government. Vote for Al Gore and Joe 
Lieberman and Julia Carson, get the 
country out of debt, keep interest rates down, keep the economy going, 
keep moving forward--that's the issue.
    Now, that's clear. But don't all of you know a lot of people who 
never will come to a rally like this? You do, don't you? You know, every 
one of you, you know a lot of people who love their country, and they're 
going to vote on election day, but they'll never come to a rally like 
this. You need to tell them just what I told you.
    The first thing is, if you like the prosperity and you want to keep 
it going and you don't want us to go back into deficit, you've got to 
vote with us. We tried it their way for 12 years. We tried it our way 
for 8 years. Our way works better than their way. We've got to keep 
going.
    And now, the second thing I want to say is this. If you look at 
every other area of our national life, you'll find the same thing. 
Welfare: The rolls have been cut in half. Yes, if you're able-bodied and 
you can work, you've got to go to work. But we don't want you to hurt 
your kids, so we want more for child care, for education and training, 
for transportation. And it works. Our deal works. Helping people be good 
parents and good workers makes good sense. That's why we were for the 
family and medical leave law. We think it ought to be expanded. Work and 
family--our way works.
    Crime: What was our position on crime? Not what they say. They say 
we're weak on enforcement, and all we want to do is take hunters' guns 
away. What a load of hooey. [Laughter] You know, that's just a bunch of 
bull. [Laughter] It might stir people up and get them some votes, but it 
has a real burden of being untrue.
    What are the facts? What was our approach? Our approach was, put 
more cops on the street to prevent crime in the first place. Do more to 
take guns out of the hands of children and criminals. You can do that 
without interfering

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with the hunters and the sport shooters. Give kids something to say yes 
to; give them an after-school program; summer school program; and then 
punish the people that ought to be punished. Now, that's been our--do 
you know what--now, look at the record. We have the lowest crime rate in 
26 years, the lowest murder rate in 33 years. That is the record.
    So what do they want to do? They want to stop our efforts to keep 
guns out of the hands of criminals and children. They want to--this is 
an explicit commitment--they want to repeal our efforts to put over 
100,000 police on our streets. And they just want to go back to talking 
tough again.
    Well, look, we tried it their way. We tried it our way. Our way 
works. And not a single Indiana hunter has missed a day in the deer 
woods, not a sports person has missed a single sporting event, but a 
half a million felons, fugitives, and stalkers couldn't get a handgun 
because of the Brady bill. It's a safer country. We're a better country. 
Our way works. We tried it their way. We tried it our way. Our way 
works.
    You look at education. Compared to 8 years ago, test scores are up; 
the dropout rate is down; the high school graduation rate is up; the 
college-going rate is at an all-time high. We went from 14 States to 49 
States with strong academic standards that would be applied to all 
students in all schools. All States now have to identify schools that 
are failing and try to find some way to turn them around. So standards, 
accountability, and resources to help people meet the standards--it's 
working. The teachers and the principals know how to turn around failing 
schools now.
    Now, we know how to do this. We're finally moving this thing. We've 
had a two-thirds increase in the number of kids taking advanced 
placement tests, a 300 percent increase for Latino kids, a 500 percent 
increase for African-American kids taking advanced placement tests to go 
to college. Now, we know what we're doing here.
    So what is Al Gore's program? What's 
the Democratic program? High standards and accountability, identify 
schools that are failing, and within 2 years turn them around or shut 
them down and reopen them under new management. But help them: 100,000 
more teachers; funds to build or modernize or repair schools; funds to 
train the teachers in the subjects that they're supposed to be teaching; 
and making sure that kids get a tax deduction for the cost of college 
tuition; and after-school and preschool programs for all the kids who 
need it.
    Why? Not because we're against accountability and standards, but 
because if you're going to lay standards on somebody, they've got to 
have a chance to meet the standards.
    Now, what is their program? Their program is, accountability and 
block grants to States, and if they spend the money, fine; if they 
don't, fine; if they don't spend it well, we'll take it away from them. 
So if the schools get in trouble, our answer is, spend even less on 
them. That's their side.
    I think accountability-plus is better than accountability-minus. And 
we've had 8 years of experience. We're moving in the right direction. 
Our way works better than theirs. The American people have to choose 
that.
    The same thing is true with every other issue. On the environment, 
we've got cleaner air, cleaner water, safer food; 90 percent of our kids 
immunized for the first time in history. We have proved you can grow the 
economy and clean up the environment. And we set aside more land than 
any administration since Theodore Roosevelt in permanent trust for the 
American people.
    Al Gore says, ``Vote for me, and I'll build on that.'' His opponent 
says, ``Vote for me, and we'll relax some of their regulations. We'll 
get rid of the President's order protecting 40 million acres in national 
forests. We'll reduce some of these other things he's done, because you 
simply can't do this much and grow the economy.''
    Now, look, we tried it their way, didn't we? And then they came in 
and tried to weaken the economy again. I vetoed it every time they tried 
it the last 5 years. [Applause] And wait a minute. And you know, if I 
were trying to hurt the economy, I've done a poor job of it. [Laughter]
    So this is a serious deal. You can grow the economy and improve the 
environment. And believe me, in the future, the challenges will be 
bigger than the ones I've faced. You can't turn around on this. This is 
a big deal. This is a big deal. So you've got to go tell people this. 
You've got to say, ``Look, look at where we were 8 years ago. Look at 
where we are today. The economy, crime, welfare, education, the 
environment, health care--we've got people without insurance, that 
number, going down for the

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first time in a dozen years because of the Children's Health Insurance 
Program that we have proposed and gotten out there and implemented.'' 
Now, the country is going in the right direction.
    Now, here's the last point I want to make. You all were clapping 
when Joe Andrew did his shtick. You know, we don't care whether you're 
old or young, whether you walked in or wheeled in, and all that. That's 
really who we are. And it's the only thing about us that's more 
important than the economic policy is that we think everybody counts; 
everybody ought to have a chance; we all do better when we help each 
other. That's what we believe.
    Now, it's what I call one America But there are lots of these one 
America issues out there where there are real differences. You can go to 
your friends and neighbors and ask them with whom they agree. Our side, 
we're for raising the minimum wage. Their side isn't. Our side, we're 
for stronger enforcement of equal pay laws for women, and their side 
isn't. Our side, we're for a Medicare prescription drug program so that 
every senior who needs access to affordable medicine can get it, and 
their side isn't. Our side, we're for hate crimes legislation that 
protects people on the basis of race, gender, disability, or sexual 
orientation from hate crimes. Nobody ought to be beat up, mauled, 
dragged, or killed in this country because of who they are, if they're 
obeying the law. And their side isn't.
    Now, that's it. So here's the deal. You can't let anybody not vote 
or sort of stray away because they think there's no consequence here, 
they think there are no differences here. We've actually had quite a 
nice election, free of personal recrimination, where we're positive that 
both these candidates for President and for Vice President are good, 
honorable, patriotic Americans who love their families and love their 
country, and they're going to do what they say they're going to do.
    And I can tell you this--you know, the press likes to say that these 
politicians are always breaking their word, but the truth is, every 
study shows that most Presidents pretty well do what they say they're 
going to do. Once in a while they break their word, and usually we're 
thankful they did. [Laughter] Why? Roosevelt said he'd balance the 
budget, and that was a bad idea with 25 percent unemployment. And we're 
thankful that he gave us the New Deal instead. Lincoln, to get elected, 
said he wouldn't free the slaves, and we're awful glad he broke that 
promise.
    So once in a great while a guy gets elected President and has to 
break a promise, and it makes--but more often than not, Presidents do 
what they say they're going to do. You're going to have a very different 
Supreme Court, depending on which one of them gets elected. And it's not 
just about the right to choose, although it is about that. That will 
change, depending on what happens. It is also about the ability of the 
Congress of the United States to protect working people. There are all 
these--and ordinary citizens, for all kinds of things. There's a 
revolution here, a debate, going on on the Supreme Court, and some of 
them want to go back to where they were in the 1930's.
    Audience members. No-o-o!
    The President. Now, you've got to decide. But don't you let anybody 
tell you that there are no differences. And I just came out here to say, 
you know, if Indiana can elect Evan Bayh and Frank 
O'Bannon back to back, if Indianapolis can 
elect Bart Peterson, the first Democratic 
mayor in a month of Sundays, if Indiana can send me Julia Carson to 
drive me crazy until I say yes to whatever she's asking, if Indiana can 
provide us Joe Andrew, the sparkplug of our 
national revival of the Democratic Party, all of you, between now and 
election day, can find some people to talk to.
    Look at all the people in this crowd here. This is a big crowd. This 
crowd will talk to, collectively, 30,000-50,000-100,000 people between 
now and election day. Look around here. There are lots of folks here. 
Most of the people you will talk to will never come to an event like 
this. But they will vote, if they think it matters. And you need to go 
tell them--your friends in Illinois, your friends in Michigan, your 
friends in Kentucky and all the States around here, all those States are 
big battleground States --look, if you want to keep the prosperity 
going, their deal won't pass the arithmetic test. It doesn't add up. 
You've got to stick with us. Look at where we were 8 years ago and where 
we are now on welfare, crime, the environment, education, health care. 
We're moving in the right direction. Let's keep moving in the right 
direction.
    Look at where we are on building one America, on hate crimes, on 
equal pay for women, on all these other issues. Look at this. If you

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want one America, if you want to move in the right direction, if you 
want to keep the prosperity going, you've got one choice. You've got to 
be for our crowd: Al Gore, Joe 
Lieberman, Frank O'Bannon, Julia Carson, the people that helped to bring America 
back. You can do it, Indiana.
    Thank you, and God bless you. Thank you.

Note: The President spoke at 10:48 a.m. in Edy's Grand Hall at the 
Indianapolis State Fairgrounds. In his remarks, he referred to Jeff 
Smulyan, chairman and chief executive officer, Emmis Communications 
Corp.; Joseph J. Andrew, national chair, Democratic National Committee; 
Gov. Frank O'Bannon of Indiana; National Basketball Association Hall of 
Fame members Larry Bird and Isaiah Thomas; and Republican Presidential 
candidate Gov. George W. Bush of Texas. Julia Carson was a candidate for 
reelection in Indiana's 10th Congressional District.