[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: William J. Clinton (1998, Book II)]
[September 22, 1998]
[Pages 1645-1647]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks at a Reception for African-American Religious Leaders
September 22, 1998

    The President. Thank you very much. The Scripture says it's more 
blessed to give than to receive. I was sitting here thinking, in this 
case, I wish I were on the giving rather than the receiving end. It is 
difficult to absorb the depth and breadth of what I have heard and what 
you have given to me through the words of Reverend King and through your 
expression, and I thank you.
    I thank you also for what you have given to our country. I thank the 
Members of Congress and the administration, the educators, the 
ministers, the Ambassadors, all of you who are here, and our friends 
from South Africa.
    Hillary and I are delighted to have President Mandela and Graca 
here. We thank you, Graca, for your concern for the children who have 
been made victims of war by being impressed into combat as children and 
the scars they bear from it. And we thank you, Mr. President, for being 
the person we'd all like to be on our best day.
    I would like you all to think for a few moments, before I bring 
President Mandela on, not about the terrible unjust sacrifice of his 27 
years in prison but about what he's done with

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the years since he got out of prison, not about how he purged his heart 
of bitterness and anger while still a prisoner but how he resists every 
day the temptation to take it up again in the pettiness and meanness of 
human events. In some ways, that is all the more remarkable.
    There have been many blessings for Hillary and for me, far 
outweighing all the trials, of being given the opportunity by the 
American people to serve in this position and live in this house. But 
certainly one of the greatest ones has been the friendship of this good 
man.
    And I want to tell you one little story--I try never to betray any 
private conversations I have with anybody, but I want to tell you this. 
[Laughter] When President Mandela--once I was talking to him, and I said 
to him, ``You know, I have listened carefully to everything you have 
said, to how you laid your anger and your bitterness down. But on the 
day you got out of prison, Hillary and I were living in Arkansas, in the 
Governor's Mansion; our daughter was a very young girl. I got her up 
early on a Sunday morning, and I sat her down on the counter in our 
kitchen, because we had an elevated television. And I said, `Chelsea, I 
want you to watch this. This is one of the great events of your 
lifetime, and I want you to watch this.' ''
    And she watched President Mandela walk down that last road toward 
freedom, after all those years in prison. So I said to him one day, I 
said, ``Now, tell me this. I know you invited your jailers to the 
inauguration, and I know how hard you've worked on this. But weren't you 
angry one more time when you were walking down that road?'' He said, 
``Yes, briefly, I was.'' I don't know if he remembers this. He said, 
``Yes, briefly, I was. And then I remembered, I have waited so long for 
freedom. And if my anger goes with me out of this place, I will still be 
their prisoner, and I want to be free. I want to be free.''
    I say that to set the stage for what is now happening in Nelson 
Mandela's life. Yesterday we were at the United Nations, and he and I 
spoke back-to-back, and then we had this luncheon. And we were talking 
about the troubles in the Congo; we were talking about the continuing, 
almost compulsive destructiveness of the people there and all the 
countries outside trying to get into the act to make sure that whoever 
they don't like doesn't get a leg up. And we were lamenting the colossal 
waste of human potential in that phenomenally rich country.
    And I thought to myself, apartheid is gone in the law in South 
Africa, but it is still alive in the heart of nearly everybody on Earth 
in some way or another. And here is this man still giving of himself to 
try to take the apartheid out of the heart of the people of his 
continent and, indeed, the people of the world.
    We were talking just before we came down about a mutual friend of 
ours who is the leader of a country, and how he had called and 
admonished him to try to work through a problem that he has had for too 
long. And so, I say--I have to say one thing that is slightly amusing 
about this. Now, President Mandela will probably get up here and make 
some crack about being an old man and how his time is running out and 
all that. The truth is he's leaving office because he feels like he's 
about 25 years old again. [Laughter] And he's so happily married he 
can't be troubled with all these boring affairs of politics. [Laughter] 
But I must say, it's the only time I've ever known him to misrepresent 
the facts, but that is, I'm sure, what is going on here.
    But I ask you to think about that. Every time Nelson Mandela walks 
into a room we all feel a little bigger; we all want to stand up; we all 
want to cheer, because we'd like to be him on our best day. But what I 
would say to you is, there is a little bit of apartheid in everybody's 
heart. And in every gnarly, knotted, distorted situation in the world 
where people are kept from becoming the best they can be, there is an 
apartheid of the heart. And if we really honor this stunning sacrifice 
of 27 years, if we really rejoice in the infinite justice of seeing this 
man happily married in the autumn of his life, if we really are seeking 
some driven wisdom from the power of his example, it will be to do 
whatever we can, however we can, wherever we are, to take the apartheid 
out of our own and others' hearts.
    Ladies and gentlemen, the President of South Africa.

[At this point, President Nelson Mandela of South Africa made brief 
remarks.]

    President Clinton. I want to leave you on a high note here. 
[Laughter] I want to tell you a story that I never told the President. I 
have a friend who is a minister--a white minister who was in South 
Africa recently. And he was

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given the chance to meet the President, but he was told, ``You'll have 
to go to the airport if you want to meet the President.'' He said, 
``I'll go anywhere to shake his hand.'' So he said, ``I was standing off 
here waiting for him to come, and here comes the President across the 
lobby of the airport.'' And he said, ``President Mandela walked up to 
this gorgeous little blond-haired, blue-eyed girl, about 6 years old.'' 
And my friend went up to hear the conversation.
    And he said to the little girl, ``Do you know who I am?'' She said, 
``Yes, you're President Mandela.'' And he looked at her, and he said, 
``If you study hard and learn a lot, you can grow up to be President of 
South Africa some day.''
    That's a lot to say after this life. Remember the point. God bless 
you all. Thank you.

Note: The President spoke at 6:30 p.m. in the East Room at the White 
House. In his remarks, he referred to President Mandela's wife, Graca 
Machel. The transcript released by the Office of the Press Secretary 
also included the remarks of President Mandela.