[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: William J. Clinton (1996, Book II)]
[August 26, 1996]
[Pages 1355-1360]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks in Columbus, Ohio
August 26, 1996

    The President. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm glad to see all of 
you. I thank you for that wonderful introduction. I am delighted to be 
here. Thank you, Chief Jackson, for being

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here and for the work you do every day. Thank you, Sheriff Karnes, for 
being here, for what you do as well. And I'm very grateful to you.
    Thank you, Senator Glenn----

[At this point, there was a disturbance in the audience.]

    The President. Wait, wait, wait. No, wait a minute. Okay, wait, 
wait, wait. I believe in the first amendment. Now you've had your say, 
may I have mine? [Applause] Thank you, thank you very much. We'll talk 
about the record now.

[The disturbance continued.]

    The President. You've got to feel sorry for these people. They don't 
want you to know my record; that's why they have to shout. They'd be in 
a world of hurt if the American people--[applause]--you know, if the 
American people find out the truth. They don't have a chance, and they 
have to try to shout it down. I don't blame them. You got to feel sorry 
for--[applause].
    Now, let me say I am delighted to be joined here with Senator John 
Glenn. He talked about how we'd reduced the Government. He didn't say 
that he deserves a lot of the credit for it. Our friends on the other 
side talked a lot--like today, you see, they're good at that--they 
talked a lot about the Government and how it was too big and how 
terrible it was, you know. But it just got bigger. They didn't do 
anything about it.
    We reduced the size of it. You have the smallest Federal Government 
since John Kennedy was President. You have the smallest Federal 
Government as a percentage of our work force since Franklin Roosevelt 
took the oath of office in 1933, before the New Deal.
    But the reason you haven't heard about it is we didn't throw those 
people in the street. Of the 250,000 people smaller the Federal 
Government is, fewer than 1,800 were involuntarily separated. I'm proud 
of that. We treated those people with dignity and helped them to go on 
to other lives and said, thank you for what you did for your country.
    And you haven't heard about it because we continue to do the good 
work of America, because we have a strong and effective Government. We 
don't have a weak Government; it's just leaner and more effective. And 
that's a big part--in big part the result of the efforts and the 
leadership of John Glenn, who saved hundreds of millions of dollars in 
defense procurement and did so many other things for this country that 
he will never get adequate credit for. But the people of Ohio should 
know what he has done.
    I also want to thank a daughter of Ohio, your State treasurer who's 
now my national Treasurer, Mary Ellen Withrow, who's here with me today. 
I thank her. I thank my friend Gene Branstool. I think he's back here 
with us today. I went to his farm, as John Glenn said, and Gene came and 
served with us in the Department of Agriculture until he decided, like 
any sane person, that he'd rather live in Ohio than Washington, DC. 
[Laughter] I've got my Ohio buckeye that I got in Chillicothe last 
night. When I was on the train yesterday, I noticed the corn crop, and 
it looks really pretty. But I told Gene, I said, ``It's not as high as 
it was in 1992.'' He said, ``I know, but the prices are a lot higher, 
and that's even better.'' [Laughter]
    So I am delighted to be here with you. I thank Senator Jeff 
Johnson--State Senator Jeff Johnson--and Franklin County Democratic 
chair Dennis White for being here and all of you for coming out today. I 
want to say a special thanks to the students of the police academy and 
the men and women who graduated from it and the law enforcement 
officials who are here today. They are here today so that we can express 
our gratitude to them.
    One of the proudest moments of my Presidency was to stand with 
America's police officers and sign, after 7 years of long, hard 
struggle, the Brady bill. I never thought of public safety as a 
political issue before. I never thought of it as a Republican issue, 
when they said they were tough on crime, because I'd been working on it 
for 20 years. It never occurred to me that--when a person gets mugged, 
they don't ask if you're a Democrat or a Republican. I thought it was an 
American issue. And then when we were fighting to pass the Brady bill, I 
never thought of it as a political issue, even though the NRA had more 
influence over the other party. There's lots of NRA members in my home 
State, and half the folks have a hunting or a fishing license or both. 
But tonight I'm proud to say that the Brady bill, which was named after 
Ronald Reagan's Press Secretary, Jim Brady, and was pushed by his wife, 
Sarah Brady--I'm proud to say that at the Democratic Convention in 
Chicago tonight

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Sarah Brady will be one of the speakers. It's an American issue to stand 
up for public safety.
    You know, we are living in an age of enormous possibility. You read 
about it all the time; the technological changes are staggering. The 
children in this audience, a lot of them--a lot of the young people 10 
years from now will be doing jobs that have not even been invented yet, 
jobs that have not even been imagined yet. The pace of change is 
staggering. And I've been doing everything I could to make sure that we 
are ready for the 21st century. It starts in just 4 years. I'm taking a 
train through the heartland of America because I want to see people like 
you that I've been fighting for and because I want people like you to 
know that that train is on the right track to the 21st century.
    We spent a lot of time talking about opportunity, and last week was 
a good week for opportunity. We raised the minimum wage for 10 million 
people, 440,000 in Ohio. We made it easier for small-business people and 
their employees to take out and keep their pension plans, even when they 
change jobs, and that's very important. We made it easier for families 
to adopt children, even across racial lines, and gave them a tax credit 
to do it, and that's very important. We passed the welfare reform law, 
but we kept guaranteed health care and child care for working women and 
children, so that when we give people a job they can also take care of 
their kids. That's what we want for middle class families; it's what we 
should want for poor families as well.
    We signed the Kennedy-Kassebaum health care reform bill to protect 
25 million people, to give them a chance to keep their health insurance 
when they changed jobs and to say you can't be denied health insurance 
just because somebody in your family gets sick. That's what insurance is 
for, people are going to get sick. It was a great thing.
    Senator Glenn talked about the deficit. Actually, Senator, the last 
time a President had the deficit go down in all 4 years of his 
Presidency was before the Civil War, in the 1840's, under John Tyler. 
It's been a long time since we did that. That's the good news. The bad 
news is John Tyler was not reelected. [Laughter] But what you ought to 
know while you're having that laugh is--this is the important thing, not 
how long ago it was--what you really ought to know is, when you consider 
the major issues in this election, is that your budget would not only be 
balanced, there would be a healthy surplus in the Federal budget today 
if it weren't for the interest we have to pay on the debt that was run 
up in just the 12 years before I took office. And you all remember what 
that debt meant and what that interest meant. It meant high interest 
costs, low investment, slow job growth, nobody getting a raise, 
homeownership declining because mortgage rates were so high.
    We cannot afford to blow a hole in this deficit again. We can have a 
tax cut that's targeted to childrearing, to education, to training of 
adults, to helping us grow the economy and helping give some income 
relief to middle class people. But we dare not take one we can't afford, 
and we don't need to go to the bank and borrow the money. We need to go 
on and balance this budget, keep the interest rates down, keep 
homeownership going up, keep business investment going up, keep new jobs 
going up, keep wages rising. That's what we've got to do.
    But this whole agenda--when you talk about the opportunity agenda in 
America, you can get a lot of applause lines, because we've created a 
lot of opportunity. But America doesn't work without the other half of 
the bargain, responsibility. Without responsibility, opportunity will 
not flourish. And unless we are committed to that basic bargain and to 
the proposition that we have to go forward together across racial lines, 
across religious lines, across all the lines that divide us--we need to 
say, as long as we all believe in the Declaration of Independence, the 
Constitution, the Bill of Rights, we show up for work every day, we're 
going arm in arm into the future. We're going to be one community in 
America and going arm in arm into the future.
    Four years ago, I really believed after talking to Americans all 
over this country that the biggest threat to that and the biggest 
affront to our sense of responsibility was the rising rate of crime and 
violence all over America. We put into place a tough strategy based on 
what was working already at the grassroots level to try to reduce the 
crime rate, focusing on police, on punishment, on prevention, 100,000 
more police on the street, ``three strikes and you're out,'' the assault 
weapons ban, the Brady bill, recreational programs for children after 
school, keeping the schools open more, helping communities to do that, 
putting those D.A.R.E. officers

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in, having a zero-tolerance policy for guns, doing things that would 
work to help our kids have something to say yes to, not just to say no 
to. All these things are making a difference.
    For 2 years I've been telling America we were having a terrible 
dilemma: the crime rate was going down, but the juvenile crime rate was 
going up; the drug use rate was going down, but the juvenile drug use 
rate was going up. Now, we know for 2 years the juvenile murder rate has 
dropped dramatically, and last year for the first time in a long time, 
the juvenile crime rate started to go down. I can only hope that means 
that we can get the juvenile drug use rate down, too. We have to keep 
working on that. But the last thing we want to do is to take those 
D.A.R.E. officers out of the school. We ought to do more to provide safe 
and drug-free schools, not less.
    What I'd like to talk about today is where we're going from here. I 
spent a lot of time trying to help schools all over America do things 
that would save more kids, to do things like have the option to adopt 
school uniform policies. I've seen it all over California, where it's 
become the rage, where you've got lower dropout rates, less violence, 
higher performance, all the kids feel better, not just the poor kids, 
the middle class kids, but the wealthy kids, too. People like being 
judged by what's on the inside, not what on the outside. It's helping to 
promote discipline and values in our schools. Tougher truancy laws are 
doing the same thing; curfew laws are doing the same thing. We ought to 
be doing more of that.
    We also, as the sheriff and the chief said, did take on the gun 
issue, and a lot of people thought we had lost our minds. And I'll tell 
you, we did lose a lot of good Congressmen over it. Back in 1994, I 
remember the other side going around telling everybody in places like 
Ohio and Arkansas that the Democrats and the President had voted to take 
your guns away. I didn't know a single deer hunter with an Uzi, not a 
one. [Laughter] I've been duck hunting since I was a very young fellow, 
and it wouldn't have bothered me a lick to wait a few days on the Brady 
bill to have my record checked. I just didn't understand it. But they 
scared a lot of people. You may know a lot of people they scared. And a 
lot of people, a lot of good people, a lot of good people gave up their 
seats in Congress so these people could be safer when they go out to 
defend you and so you could be safer.
    So I hope over the next 70 days or so, you'll talk to your friends 
and neighbors who felt that way and remind them next time hunting season 
goes out, unless they decided not to, they're still carrying the same 
weapon they had in 1994. But there are 60,000 felons, fugitives, and 
stalkers who don't have handguns because of the Brady bill, and we're 
better off because of it.
    Now, I want to say briefly today where I think we ought to go from 
here as Americans. And again, I hope they won't be partisan issues. The 
Brady bill has plainly worked. It has not imposed undue inconvenience on 
anybody. It has made our law enforcement officials safer. And it has 
made our citizens safer. It covers today anyone convicted of a felony.
    The problem is there is one class of misdemeanors that tend to be 
particularly violent, where we know there's a potential for future 
violence, where often there's a plea bargain which goes from a felony to 
a misdemeanor. And that is the painful area of domestic violence. I 
believe that the Brady bill should cover anybody with a domestic 
violence conviction. I don't believe they should be able to buy a 
handgun. Under the current law, thousands of people who are wife beaters 
or child abusers, even those who have wielded weapons in their assault 
but were convicted of misdemeanors, can still buy handguns with 
potentially deadly consequences.
    I believe strongly in the right of Americans to own guns. I have 
used them as a hunter with great joy. But make no mistake, those who 
threaten the safety of others do not deserve our trust. If you're 
convicted of a felony, you shouldn't have one. If you're a fugitive from 
the law, you shouldn't have a gun. If you're stalking or harassing women 
or children, you shouldn't have a gun. And if you commit an act of 
violence against your spouse or your child, you shouldn't have a gun.
    Let me also say, domestic violence is a big threat to law 
enforcement officers. We're working hard with our new violence against 
women section and other efforts in the Justice Department to help police 
officers and prosecutors and judges to understand domestic violence, to 
recognize it when they see it, to know how to deal with it.
    This past February, we launched a 24-hour, 7-day, toll-free hotline 
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find out about emergency help, get shelter, report abuse to the 
authorities. I never miss a chance to give out the number. It's 1-800-
799-SAFE. And about 7,000 people a month call on that hotline. Extending 
the Brady bill to victims of domestic violence, to protect them, will 
save more lives. It will also save more law enforcement lives.
    There are other steps we should take to protect our police officers 
and our citizens from gun violence. Last summer I sent Congress 
legislation to ban cop-killer bullets. These bullets are designed to 
kill police. That's what they do. They're designed to pierce bulletproof 
vests. If a bullet can slice through a bulletproof vest like a hot knife 
through butter, it should be against the law. Every major law 
enforcement official organization supports this bill, and it's time for 
Congress to support it, too.
    I want a bill to give prosecutors the power to impose tougher 
sentences on drug traffickers and gang members who also use a gun when 
they commit their crimes. We used to have a bill which did that, and the 
courts said, unless they were using the gun--even if they were carrying 
the gun in full view--they couldn't get extra penalties. That's wrong. 
That's wrong. We need to provide protection against people who are 
peddling drugs or doing other things with a gun designed to terrify 
people. We need to say, ``If you do that, we're going to punish you more 
harshly.''
    Again, I want Congress to pass the bill I sent them nearly a year 
ago to ban guns anywhere near our schools. That is wrong. We used to 
have a bill on that, too, and the courts overturned it. So I sent them a 
bill to fix it, and it still hasn't passed. We don't need people 
wandering around a block from a schoolyard with a gun. We know there are 
too many kids who've been killed on play yards with guns in this 
country, and we do not need it.
    Now, again, there are people who are against banning cop-killer 
bullets. They say it's just a slippery slope eroding their right to keep 
and bear arms. I have never seen a deer in a Kevlar vest--[laughter]--
never. If somebody can show me a picture of one out there hiding from 
our hunters, I'll be glad to reassess my position. [Laughter] But until 
they do, I believe I'll stay with these folks here. I think they're 
entitled to be safe.
    And let me just make one final comment. Usually when people like me 
give speeches like this, we try, and sometimes we're fortunate enough to 
succeed, to have folks like this behind us, people in uniform, because 
we honor them, we're proud of them, we identify with them, and we're 
glad they're doing something we don't do and taking a risk for us. But I 
think we should never forget that the ultimate beneficiaries of all 
these efforts to make our streets safer and our schools safer and our 
homes safer are you. And I want to introduce you to the two people on 
the stage that I haven't introduced yet. And I want to tell you a story. 
It's one of the most moving stories of my over 20 years in public life.
    This man and his son--this is Dimitrious Theofanis and his son, 
Nick. I'd like to ask them to stand up. [Applause] I want to tell you 
how I met Dimitrious. In early 1992,\1\ about 4\1/2\ years ago, just 
before the New Hampshire primary, I had a fundraiser scheduled in a big 
hotel in New York. And frankly, I was having a tough time. I was 
dropping in the polls, and all the press had said I was dead and over, 
history, finished. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself. All I was 
thinking about was my politics. I'm ashamed to say it, but that's all I 
was thinking about.
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    And I was walking through this kitchen thinking there wasn't even 
going to be anybody at the fundraiser because everybody said I didn't 
have a chance anymore. And I'm kind of looking down and just feeling 
sorry for myself. It was pitiful. [Laughter] And Dimitrious was working 
in that hotel, in his uniform. And I was walking through the kitchen, 
and he came up to me and stopped me in the kitchen, and he said, 
``Governor,'' he said, ``I want to talk to you a minute. My 10-year-old 
boy''--his son was 10 then--he says, ``my 10-year-old boy, he studies 
this election in school, and he says I should vote for you.'' He said, 
``But if I vote for you, I want you to do something for me.'' I said, 
``What?'' He said, ``I want you to make my son free.'' I said, ``What do 
you mean?'' He said, ``Well, in the country where I came from we were 
poor, but we were free. I'm an immigrant. Here I'm doing well. I'm 
working hard. I have more money, but we're not free.'' He said, ``Just 
across the street from our apartment there is a park, but my son can't 
play in it unless I'm there with him. He has a school only two blocks 
from our home, but my son can't walk there

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unless I go with him. So if I do what my son wants me to do, I want you 
to make my boy free.''
    They made an impression on me that will last for the rest of my 
life, and they were speaking for all of you. And I wanted you to see 
them today. They're riding the train with me to Chicago. Thank you, and 
God bless you.
    I hope you will support extending the Brady bill. I hope you will 
support banning cop-killer bullets. I hope you will support tougher 
penalties for people who deal drugs with guns. And I hope you will 
support a good, clean law saying nobody has got any business with a gun 
anywhere near a school. Help us to keep making America free.
    Thank you, and God bless you.

Note: The President spoke at 11:04 a.m. at the Columbus Police Academy. 
In his remarks, he referred to Chief of Police James Jackson of Columbus 
and Sheriff Jim Karnes of Franklin County.