    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: William J. Clinton (1995, Book II)]
    [October 22, 1995]
    [Pages 1657-1658]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

    Remarks Prior to Discussions With President Nelson Mandela of South
    Africa and an Exchange With Reporters in New York City
    October 22, 1995

        President Clinton. Hello. Is everyone in?
        President Mandela. They're the only people who can order the
    President of a superpower around. [Laughter]
        President Clinton. Let me just begin by saying that it's a great
    honor for me to have a chance to meet with my friend President Mandela
    again. He is a symbol of the best of what has occurred in the world in
    the last 50 years, since the United Nations has been in existence. And
    we honor the progress South Africa has made and is making. We value our
    partnership and look forward to doing more together.
        I want to thank again the President for making it possible to
    establish the Gore-Mbeki commission so that we'll have a very high-level
    way of working together systematically over the long run. And we are
    very excited about it, and I'm looking forward to our meeting.
        President Mandela. [Inaudible]--is in power in South Africa, it is
    the duty of the new government to solve the problems facing the country
    and not to be pointing the finger--fingers--at what happened before we
    came into power. But for the purpose of appreciating what the United
    States of America has done to facilitate the transformation that has
    taken place in our country and the trend of democracy, we must start
    from the point that we faced one of the brutal systems of racial
    oppression in our country. And the fact that in our anti-apartheid fight
    we had the support of a country like the United States of America
    strengthened the democratic forces in our country and enabled us to win.
    It is in that spirit that I always look forward to meeting the President
    of the United States of America. And it is in that spirit that I'm going
    to have discussions with him.
        Thank you.

    [At this point, one group of reporters left the room, and another group
    entered.]

        President Clinton. Let me begin by saying it is a great honor for me
    to welcome my friend President Mandela back to the United States. He is
    a hero to so many people in our country because of his long fight for
    freedom and democracy and justice in South Africa. And on this 50th
    anniversary of the United Nations, I think we can fairly say that the
    example that he and his country have set really embodies the best of
    what the United Nations is trying to do throughout the world.
        Vice President Gore and Mr. Mbeki have established a remarkable
    commission where we're going to have a high-level, ongoing, significant
    partnership with South Africa. And I believe that this relationship is
    in good shape. And I look forward to making it better.

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        And I'm delighted to welcome you here, Mr. President. Would you like
    to say anything before we let them ask a question or two?
        President Mandela. Thank you. We have had very good relations with
    the United States of America. I must point out that the first head of
    state to congratulate me when I came out of prison was the President of
    the United States of America at the time. And he invited me to this
    country.
        Our relations have deepened considerably since President Clinton
    took over power. He has helped us to ensure that democracy in our
    country is deeply entrenched. And it is always in that spirit that we
    think of him. And it is in that spirit that I'm here today to have these
    discussions with the President.
        I look forward to reaching agreement on a wide variety of issues.
    This has been my experience before in having discussions with him. And I
    have no reason to doubt whatsoever that from this short meeting that
    we're going to have, we'll come out stronger and more close to one
    another as never before.
        Thank you.

    United Nations Funding

        Q. Mr. President, what makes you think the Republican Congress will
    be in any mood to give you the money to make up the back payments the
    U.S. owes the U.N.?
        President Mandela. Can you just repeat that?
        President Clinton. Excuse me.
        President Mandela. He was talking to you. I'm so sorry. Very sorry.
    I am very sorry.
        President Clinton. I wish you would answer that question. [Laughter]
        Q. Do you think they might--the money until----
        President Clinton. Well, the Secretary of State and Ambassador
    Albright are working on that in the Congress now. There are some
    supporters of the United Nations in the Congress and the Republican
    Party. And again I say--you know, we're having this argument on another
    subject--I just believe America ought to be a good citizen. I think we
    ought to pay our bills.
        Now, we have made it clear that our contribution should be more
    commensurate with our share of the world's wealth, and it will be. We
    have made it clear that there have to be reforms in the United Nations,
    and we're working hard on that. But I don't think the United States
    wants to be known as the biggest deadbeat in the U.N. That's not the
    kind of reputation I think we should cultivate. And we are still the
    largest contributor to the United Nations, but we ought to pay our
    obligations. I was raised to believe we should pay our obligations. I
    was raised to believe the United States set a standard for the world in
    honoring its obligations. And I do not believe that we should depart
    from that now. I worked hard to get our arrears paid back in a
    disciplined, regular way, and the Secretary of State and Ambassador
    Albright will be working with Congress to see if we can do that.

    Cuba

        Q. Mr. President, if President Mandela was able to speak to the
    apartheid government when he came out of prison, why is it the United
    States can't talk to Cuba's Fidel Castro?
        President Clinton. He was speaking to his own country and his own
    country trying to change his own country.
        We have a Cuban Democracy Act which sets the framework of our
    relationship. And we have a mechanism within which we have dealt with
    the Cubans on matters of common concern for some years now. And that
    mechanism has operated since I've been President. And the Cuban
    Democracy Act provides for a measured improvement of our relationships
    in direct response to measured steps by the Cubans moving toward greater
    freedom and openness and democracy. And we have taken some steps in the
    last few days, as you know, to try to open contacts and to try to
    facilitate travel by Cuban-Americans to go see their families. So we're
    moving in a direction that we can continue to move in if Cuba continues
    to move in that direction.
        I think the Cuban Democracy Act and its framework sets a good way of
    seeing this relationship mature when there are changes in Cuba that
    warrant it.

    Note: The President spoke at 12:20 p.m. at the United States Mission to
    the United Nations. In his remarks, he referred to Executive Deputy
    President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa. A tape was not available for
    verification of the content of these remarks.