    [Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: William J. Clinton (1995, Book II)]
    [December 1, 1995]
    [Pages 1817-1818]
    [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]

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    Exchange With Reporters Prior to Discussions With Prime Minister
    John Bruton of Ireland in Dublin
    December 1, 1995

    President's Visit

        Q. Welcome to Ireland.
        The President. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here.
        Q. Did you enjoy your trips to Belfast and Derry yesterday?
        The President. Very, very much.

    Northern Ireland Peace Process

        Q. How significant do you think it's going to be for the peace
    process, your visit to Belfast yesterday? Both of you, would you answer
    briefly?
        The President. Well, I hope it will be very significant, but I
    think, frankly, it will have more meaning because of what the Taoiseach
    and Prime Minister Major did in launching the twin-track proposal. They
    gave me something to talk about, to try to advance the peace process, as
    well as to hold out the hope that the United States would obviously
    support both communities in Northern Ireland if they would work toward
    peace.
        It was a magnificent day, and it proved to me once again that people
    sometimes are far ahead of those of us in political life in their
    yearnings for the right things.
        Q. Taoiseach, what do you think of yesterday?
        Prime Minister Bruton. I think that the fact that the President came
    to Belfast and to Derry gave to the people of Northern Ireland who made
    the peace themselves that sense of international encouragement and
    support that is so important. They now see what they have won by making
    peace. So the recognition that came to those people from the most
    powerful, most significant politician in the world--if he came in their
    midst, that showed in the most tangible way possible an appreciation of
    the dividend of peace. And it was a great tribute for the President to
    pay.
        And I would have to say I think also that the President has played a
    key role in bringing peace about, and he is now playing an equally
    important role in entrenching the peace and bringing reconciliation
    closer.
        Q. Mr. President, do you believe that your visit and indeed all-
    party talks can begin by the February deadline? Would you be very
    anxious that those talks would begin?
        The President. Well, of course, I hope that the process will
    succeed. I support it strongly. The Taoiseach and the Prime Minister
    took some risks, both of them did, to try to keep the peace process
    going. It is plainly in the interest of the citizens of Northern Ireland
    and of all those who wish them well here in Ireland and, frankly,
    throughout Great Britain and throughout the world. It's a very important
    thing. So of course I hope it will work, and I'm going to do everything
    I can to be supportive.

    [At this point, one group of reporters left the room, and another group
    entered.]

    Bosnia

        Q. Will you be talking about Bosnia today, Mr. President?
        The President. I expect we will, yes.
        Q. What are some of the issues that you want to discuss about
    Bosnia?
        The President. Well, I just want to basically give the Prime
    Minister an update on where we are now. And of course, I'm going, when I
    leave here, to see our troops in Germany who are preparing and then, on
    Sunday, to the European Union. And soon I expect Ireland will be in the
    leadership of the European Union at a time when we will be, obviously,
    just in the throes of implementing what we're supposed to do in Bosnia.
    So we have a lot to talk about.
        Q. Are you optimistic about what you saw on Capitol Hill yesterday
    and what you know of how it went with your advisers testifying?
        The President. Yes, I--first of all, I thank Senator Dole and
    Senator McCain for their willingness to support that resolution, which
    we certainly agree with. And I'm very--I'm gratified by their response.
    And I also am pleased that we're having all these hearings on Capitol
    Hill and that the witnesses are going up; they're giving the best
    answers they can about what we've done. And I'm looking forward to
    getting my briefing tomorrow from General Joulwan to see what the NATO
    planners finally do with

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    the military plan that I authorized General Shalikashvili to support.
        So I think right now we're moving toward implementation of the peace
    agreement. I feel good about it.
        Q. [Inaudible]--to generate support in the House as well as the
    Senate?
        The President. Well, I take it one step at a time. I think we're
    making progress. I think we're in better shape as days go by, and I
    think that the decision by Senator Dole and Senator McCain will help
    immeasurably, I think, to build the kind of bipartisan support that we
    need to make this an American effort.
        I can tell you this: As I have been in London and Ireland, I can see
    that, in addition to the overwhelming preoccupation we've all had with
    our efforts in Northern Ireland, the ability of the United States to
    play a leading role in partnership with Europe in dealing with the
    world's problems in the years ahead is certainly heavily dependent upon
    our doing our part here in Bosnia, especially after we hosted and did so
    much to broker the peace.

    Northern Ireland Peace Process

        Q. When you talked to the leaders last night in Belfast, were you
    encouraged? Was there anything that you told them to hold back their old
    grudges or--do you have hopes for the future?
        The President. Let me just say, yes, I was encouraged because I
    think that Mr. Bruton and Mr. Major came up with a brilliant formulation
    which enables them to continue to have dialog with one another without
    giving up their position--it seems to me that is the genius of that--and
    then asking Senator Mitchell, along with two other very distinguished
    people, to be on this arms decommissioning work, so that it can succeed
    in parallel. I think it was great foreign relations.
        Obviously, none of the people with whom I spoke yesterday changed
    their positions in their brief meetings with me. The point I tried to
    make to them was that the two Prime Ministers had given them an
    honorable way to continue to engage in peace talks without giving up any
    of their previous positions; and if they looked in the streets of
    Belfast and Derry, they could see that the young people of their
    country, without regard to whether they were Protestant or Catholic,
    desperately wanted this to be resolved. They want to live together, they
    want to live on equal and honorable terms, and they want to live in
    peace. Those were the only points that I could make, and I made them as
    forcefully as I could.
        Q. If you would permit me, Mr. President, the decommissioning issue
    is going to be a very hard nut to crack, isn't it?
        The President. Sure. But that's why they----
        Q. How do you do it?
        The President. Well, that's why they set it up the way they did. I
    think it's not just a rational issue, it's an emotional issue. And
    that's why, I will say again, what the United States--the role of the
    United States is not to tell anybody how to solve a specific problem,
    including the decommissioning problem. We've tried to support those who
    are taking risks for peace.
        The two Prime Ministers have set up a process at considerable risk
    to themselves which permit all the parties to be heard and permit this
    very difficult decommissioning issue to be dealt with. And everyone can
    now proceed forward without giving up any of their own positions at the
    moment. That is what I thought was so important. We were stalled for too
    long.
        And as I said in Derry, if you look at that statue--those two
    Statues of Reconciliation there; they're reaching out, and they're not
    quite touching. But people are not statues. When you get close like
    this, you don't stay in that position. You either shake hands, or you
    drift apart. They've given this process a chance to move to a handshake,
    and that's all we can hope for. Now we just have to redouble our efforts
    and keep our attitudes proper and remember the message of the people in
    the streets, which is that they want this done. They're not interested
    in all the last details. They want it worked out so they can live on
    equal and honorable terms and live in peace. And I think that's what the
    rest of us have to try to give them.
        Prime Minister Bruton. I just want to say the key word is that this
    is a process, a process in which people can move closer together, a
    process in which people can give as well as take.

    Note: The exchange began at 12:29 p.m. at the Government Buildings. In
    his remarks, the President referred to Prime Minister John Major of the
    United Kingdom and Gen. George A. Joulwan, USA, Supreme Allied
    Commander, Europe. A tape was not available for verification of the
    content of this exchange.