[Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States: William J. Clinton (1994, Book I)]
[March 19, 1994]
[Pages 488-502]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office www.gpo.gov]



Remarks at a Children's Town Meeting
March 19, 1994

    Peter Jennings. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, especially, 
boys and girls, and welcome back to the White House, really; this is the 
second time that President Clinton has invited us back to the White 
House so that he and a group of children we've invited from around the 
country can exchange ideas about the state of the country and the state 
of the world. It's a chance for him and for them to talk about their 
dreams. So we hope you'll stay with us this morning.
    If our timing is right, the President is just coming down from 
upstairs, in a house which we all know he loves very much.
    Good morning, Mr. President.
    The President. Good morning, Peter.
    Mr. Jennings. Thank you for having us back, sir.
    The President. I'm glad you're back.

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    Mr. Jennings. You really have spent a lot of time studying this 
house, haven't you?
    The President. I have. Every President but George Washington has 
lived here, and so it's really the story of America. And it's a great 
honor to live here. So I like to know the history of it, and I like to 
know the things that happened to the people who lived here and what 
happened in which rooms and things. I've kept up with it pretty well.
    Mr. Jennings. You all know there are a lot of kids in the East Room 
waiting to see us. But surprising to me at least, a number of them asked 
us whether or not the President had to live here. [Laughter] And I just 
asked you that a moment ago.
    The President. I don't know.
    Mr. Jennings. We'll have to find that----
    The President. Isn't that funny, I don't know. I don't think 
anyone's ever volunteered to live anywhere else, except once when there 
was a big renovation of the White House when President Truman was 
President, I think he had to spend more than 2 years out of here, across 
the street.
    Mr. Jennings. We have actually a little--we're going to go into the 
East Room now, but we have just to introduce you, or reintroduce you in 
many cases, to what this is like, a little history package while you and 
I walk it. Ready?

[At this point, a videotape on the history of the White House was 
shown.]

    Mr. Jennings. And there is the White House, on a very sunny, lovely 
day here in Washington here. And we are, of course, in the East Room, 
which has its own great sense of history. And here all these boys and 
girls have joined us from around the country.
    You notice the President's tie, everybody?
    Audience members. Yes.
    The President. This tie was designed by a 13-year-old named Kelly. 
It's called ``Save the Children,'' and it's part of a series of ties 
designed by children for the Save the Children Foundation. It's a group 
that works on the problems of children in poor communities and poor 
neighborhoods around America. And my wife and I have been involved in it 
for a long time. So they take the drawings of children, turn them into 
ties, and then sell the ties to raise funds. It's great; I have a lot of 
them.
    Mr. Jennings. I bet people send you ties every day of the year, 
don't they?
    The President. Every day of the year, just about. I especially love 
these. I bet I've had 20 of these ties; they're great.
    Mr. Jennings. We have a lot of questions for you this morning, Mr. 
President, so we're going to go away for just one second, and then we'll 
have you and all these youngsters from around the country talk to one 
another.
    We'll be right back.

[The television stations took a commercial break.]

    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, I said a lot of these kids had 
questions. How many of you have got questions for the President? We're 
going to be here for several days. You don't mind that, do you?
    The President. No.
    Mr. Jennings. Let's get right to it. Kevin, how about you?

Education and Employment

    Q. My first question is for those children who wish to pursue a 
college education: What are you going to do to guarantee that there are 
jobs for them when they get out of college? Today, many adults have 
graduate degrees, bachelor's; they have a hard time finding jobs. They 
have as good a chance as those who are straight out of high school. What 
are you going to do to guarantee that when I get out of college, I have 
a job waiting for me?
    The President. I don't know that I can guarantee it, but I think we 
can make it more likely. But perhaps the main reason I ran for President 
was to try to restore the economic health of the country, and what I am 
trying to do is to follow policies that will generate more jobs in 
America. I have tried to bring our deficit down, get interest rates down 
to create more jobs. I've tried to open more markets to our products and 
sell more American products overseas. I've tried to train people to do 
the jobs of tomorrow, and I've tried to take the technologies that we 
developed when we had a big defense budget and turn them into jobs in 
the peacetime economy. And in the last 13 months, since we had this 
meeting last, we created over 2 million new jobs in this economy.
    And let me also say, I know it's tough for college graduates, but 
let me tell every one of you one thing: Your chances of getting a good 
job are still much, much better if you first graduate from high school, 
then get at least 2 years

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of further training, and finally, if you get a college degree. The 
unemployment rate in America for college graduates is 3.5 percent. The 
unemployment rate for high school dropouts is 11.5 percent.
    Mr. Jennings. So the answer is, stay in school.
    The President. So the answer is, even though it's tougher than it 
has been for college graduates, you still have a much better chance if 
you stay in school to have higher incomes and to have a job.
    Mr. Jennings. Let's go over to the other side, here. Who's got a 
question there? Yes, go ahead.

Bosnia and Anticrime Efforts

    Q. Mr. President, why are you fighting a war in another country when 
you have a war right here?
    The President. Which war?
    Q. The war in Bosnia.
    The President. We're not fighting a war there. We're trying to help 
them bring the war to an end because many people are being killed and 
because the war could spread and because we have an obligation to try to 
support that. But we don't have soldiers on the ground there.
    I am trying to fight the war right here at home. There's a bill in 
the Congress now that I am supporting, which would put another 100,000 
police officers on the street to make the streets and the schools safer, 
that would give more money for young people for programs to help them 
resolve their differences peacefully, would take semi-automatic weapons 
off the street, and would help us to fight the war here at home. I agree 
that the war here at home is killing more people than a lot of wars 
overseas, and we're trying to fight that one. And you're right, we 
should be fighting it.
    Mr. Jennings. Right here in the front row. What's your name?

Race Relations

    Q. Gary.
    I was wondering, with all the racial problems going on, such as 
people not treating each other the same way, do you have any plans for 
solving that problem?
    Mr. Jennings. A lot of people worked hard on their questions here.
    The President. Yes, they're great. There is a lot of racial tension 
in this country today. And I think there are two things that we have to 
do about it. First of all, we have to remind the American people that we 
have always been a multiethnic, multiracial country. We've always been a 
country with a lot of different racial and ethnic groups. And every time 
a new group came along, they've often been subject to prejudice. But 
what's made our country great is that we have been able to successfully 
blend in people of different races and religions and ethnic groups, let 
them respect what's different about them, and still live together. And I 
spend a lot of time working on that, talking to young people, talking to 
groups, trying to bring people together. I brought more diverse people 
into my Government than any President has in the past.
    The second thing we have to do is to try to give a future back to 
all of our people. A lot of times people fight with one another if they 
think they don't have any opportunity. If we had more jobs and better 
education and a better climate in America, less crime, then people would 
be more relaxed and better able to appreciate one another.
    I don't know if anybody's here from Los Angeles, but just for 
example, Los Angeles County alone has people from 150 different racial 
and ethnic groups. In Bosnia, you mentioned Bosnia, people from 
basically three different groups have been fighting and killing each 
other. So we've been, with all of our problems, we've been pretty 
successful. But we've got to know that our differences--look around this 
room--our differences in America are our strength. We live in a global 
economy, a smaller and smaller world. And the fact that we have so many 
different races and religions and ethnic groups is a good thing for 
America, and we have to learn to like it.
    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, you--Gary, are you happy with that 
answer, by the way?
    Q. Yes.
    Mr. Jennings. You are, are you? If you're not, you're entitled to 
tell him.
    We know a lot of these kids, Mr. President, because we went out and 
we looked around the country to find kids who were sort of 
representative of various ideas in the country. One of them is Tanya up 
there. Hi, Tanya. Show the President just a little bit about you on the 
monitor here, and then we'll get you to talk to him.

[A videotape of Tanya talking with the Vice President at Dunbar High 
School was shown.]

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    Mr. Jennings. This is Tanya. Tanya sort of came to our attention 
when she met your Vice President at a meeting.
    The President. At Dunbar. Are you a student at Dunbar? Good, I 
recognize the film.
    Mr. Jennings. All right, so let's come out of the film now. All 
right Tanya, your turn.

Urban Youth

    Q. Good afternoon. My question is going towards inner-city kids. We 
feel as though the baby boomers have forgotten that the chaos that we 
create was given to us by you all. We want the problem to be stopped, 
but we need help. A lot of us are tired of hearing that we are a lost 
generation when we are not. We are a generation of renewal. And we want 
to know, what steps are you going to take to give us the hope, the 
pride, and the strength that we need to succeed in the future and to 
become strong, black, white, Chinese, African-American people in the 
society, 10 and 30 and 20 years in the future?
    Mr. Jennings. Tanya, can I ask you a question before the President 
answers? Do you think the President can do a lot about that? Do you 
think he makes a really enormous difference here?
    Q. He makes a very enormous difference, but one thing a lot of 
people fail to realize, if you don't come into the communities on 
positive notes, when you come for negative notes, it really angers a lot 
of people. It's angered me a lot. And I want the media and you also to 
know that I wanted to leave Mr. Gore very baffled, and I'm glad I left 
him baffled, because I want him to understand that you need to come when 
positive things happen and not just come when negative things happen.
    The President. I agree with that. Let me just make two comments 
about that, and then I'll try to answer your question.
    We, at least, do come. I mean, he and I have been out there. My wife 
has been out there. We have been in inner-city communities. We have 
walked streets that you don't normally see the President walking. We 
have been to places you don't normally see the President go.
    And I agree that we should support success stories. I was in Detroit 
last week, and sure, Detroit has a lot of inner-city problems. They also 
have perhaps the best job training program of its kind in America for 
inner-city kids, putting them in very high wage, high-tech jobs. So I 
visited that program because it's a success story. It proves that all 
children can learn. So I agree with that. We shouldn't just show up when 
something terrible happens.
    The second thing I want to say to you is that, essentially, 
everything that I do is designed to try to give young people like you 
some hope and some structure and some opportunity back. I agree that 
generations ahead of you have left you a pretty lousy situation. You've 
got all these kids that are born into families where there was never a 
marriage. You've got all these neighborhoods where the jobs have 
disappeared. You've got all these places where the schools have, in 
effect, been given up on. And that's not your fault. You just showed up. 
I mean, you're a child; you shouldn't have to deal with that, except to 
do your best. So what we're trying to do is to find ways to rebuild 
communities, rebuild schools, and bring the jobs back into the community 
and, at the same time, to follow policies which strengthen the family 
unit instead of undermine it, which encourage people to take 
responsibility for their children and reward them if they do it.
    Let me just give you an example. The welfare system has often 
encouraged families to break up. We're supporting a welfare reform 
program that will encourage families to stay together as well as to get 
jobs. We've got a tax system that we've changed so that when taxes are 
due this year, 16\1/2\ percent of the American taxpayers, working 
parents with very modest wages, are going to get a tax cut to help them 
raise their children better, to strengthen them. We've got school reform 
bills going through Congress now to try to help strengthen schools to 
have more uniform excellence.
    Now, those are things we're doing. I also have to tell you though, 
when kids get in trouble, they get in trouble one by one, and they have 
to be saved one by one. So we also need, the President needs soldiers, 
common workers in this battle. And that's why what people do in every 
school, in every neighborhood and every family and every church is 
important.
    Mr. Jennings. Probably got some potential soldiers here.
    The President. You bet, a lot of them.
    But you're right, we owe you a better deal than you're getting, and 
I'm trying to give it to you. But you all are going to have to do your 
part, too.

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President's Schedule

    Mr. Jennings. Now, there are a lot of serious questions, I know, 
here. But somebody had a question about the White House itself and about 
the President's day. They've all got shy and serious on me. A lot of 
them wanted to know whether or not you find this too big a job sometimes 
and wonder how you get everything done in one day.
    The President. Sometimes I don't, and sometimes it is too big a job. 
But I have a lot of help, for one thing. A lot of good people work here, 
and we work hard to try to organize the day well. So I try to get up in 
the morning, go run, see my daughter before she goes off to school. And 
then I come in and I start every day with a briefing on national 
security: Has anything happened in the rest of the world that could 
affect the United States, that we have to be concerned about? Then I get 
briefings on what's happened in the United States, and I read clippings 
from newspapers around the country to see what's happened. And then we 
start work, and we just work through these problems. And normally I 
finish at about 7 o'clock at night, sometimes a little later.
    Mr. Jennings. You work every day?
    The President. Yes.
    Mr. Jennings. Don't take a day off every week?
    The President. Sunday. I try to take Sunday off, but I don't always 
make it. But I try to work half a day on Saturday, take Sunday off, but 
Monday through Friday I work until pretty late at night.
    Mr. Jennings. I think some of us know that.
    The President. And sometimes until 12 or 1 o'clock at night at home 
when I read.

Children and Violence

    Mr. Jennings. Now, there have been some pretty trying events on your 
watch, in the year and a bit since you've been President. And one of 
them occurred in California. And we have a young lady here this 
morning--hi, Annie. You're getting tired, aren't you?
    Q. Not really.
    Mr. Jennings. No, you're not? Oh, good, good. I want the President 
to take a look at the television monitor here so he knows a little bit 
more about you.

[A videotape was shown in which Annie Nichol described her feelings of 
insecurity since the kidnaping and murder of her sister, Polly Klaas, 
and said that she kept items such as loud bells and ropes in her bedroom 
to help her feel safe at night.]

    Mr. Jennings. Well, of course, that is Annie Nichol, who is the 
sister of Polly Klaas who, as you know, was kidnaped in northern 
California, became enormous news in the country. We asked Annie to come 
partly because she wanted to but partly because when we talked to kids 
around the country, enormous numbers of them are concerned about their 
safety.
    So Annie, away you go.
    Q. Well, the other day when I was on the plane coming here, I asked 
my Mom, ``Do you think I'm going to live to grow up?'' And my sister, 
Polly, didn't live to grow up, so I didn't feel that safe. And my 
question is, I just don't feel very safe, and I want America to be safer 
for children.
    Mr. Jennings. And you think the President can do something, don't 
you?
    The President. I agree. I think I could. Let me say, first of all, 
you're a brave girl to come here and let us see your story. As you 
probably know, I talked to some of your family members. And I'm doing 
what I can to change some laws.
    Let's talk about it a little bit. First of all, there are people who 
get paroled out of prison who have serious problems and who are very 
likely to repeat them who should not be released. That's one thing that 
your sister's case has made people sensitive to. And that's why we're 
working on some laws to identify people who are serious threats to 
society, who will likely repeat their crimes, and not let them out.
    The second thing we have to do is to try to make our communities and 
our streets safer. That's why I'm trying to pass a bill to take these 
assault weapons off the street and to put more police officers on the 
street to make the streets safer.
    And then there's a lot of violence against children that occur in 
their own homes from family members and in schools, and we are trying to 
start programs now all across America where people learn to resolve 
their differences in nonviolent ways, to stop hurting each other and 
shooting each other and acting on impulse.
    You do live in a country that's too dangerous. And we have to make 
it less dangerous. And it is a huge obligation that I feel, and I think 
about it every day. You know, I have a little

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girl, too. I want the children of this country to be able to grow up on 
safe streets, in safe schools, in safer homes. And I think that there 
are some very specific things we can all do about it.
    We also need to change our attitudes. You may see pretty soon a 
public service announcement I did with a young woman from Washington, 
DC, a 14-year-old girl named Alicia Brown. She went to the sixth funeral 
of a friend of hers just yesterday. Six of her friends have been shot. 
So we did this public service announcement together--it's going to be on 
television--talking to young people and asking them to help us turn 
America away from violence.
    Mr. Jennings. When you were young, Mr. President, do you ever 
remember being in a room with kids and people asked you if you felt 
safe?
    The President. Never. When I was a kid, people beat each other up; I 
mean, the only thing you ever worried about was somebody coming up to 
you on the street or in an alley or something and jumping you and 
beating you up. Nobody ever shot anybody; there were none of this--I 
mean, to speak of--there was very little of this, the kidnapings, the 
kind of thing that happened to your sister--much more rare then. It's 
much worse today.
    Mr. Jennings. What do you think. Annie?
    Q. Well, for one thing that I think is that I think that other 
people shouldn't be released from jail, and they shouldn't be stealing 
as much children as they have been stealing.
    Mr. Jennings. I was looking at some figures; 4,600 kids were 
abducted last year.
    That stuff you put in your bedroom, did you really feel the need for 
that?
    Q. I did feel the need.
    The President. Did it make you feel better when you did it, that you 
were taking charge of your life and you were trying to protect yourself?
    Q. Yes.
    Mr. Jennings. You think the President's on the right track, though?
    Q. I think so.
    The President. I'll try, Annie. I think about your sister and the 
children like her all the time. I'm working hard on it.
    Mr. Jennings. Okay, let's go over here. Thanks, Annie, my dear. 
Annie's had such a good time in the White House today. Where's your 
dolphin? He's had a tour of the White House, hasn't he?
    The President. Good for you.
    Mr. Jennings. Yes, this was a very rewarding morning for her.
    Yes, love.
    Q. Well, Mr. President Clinton, I know you get a lot of questions, 
but this is just a little thing about you. I think you're such a decent 
and honest person, and I really believe in you in trying to make 
everybody happy. And I think we kids have to take the responsibility, 
because we should know who's bringing in the drugs, the guns. And if we 
just report it in, that would really make a difference. And also that 
would make a really big difference is that most of the criminals and 
people who sell drugs, they don't feel loved. And so I think from the 
moment you're born you have to feel loved. You should tell your child 
that you love them very much.
    Mr. Jennings. What a nice idea.
    The President. Let me just say two things. First of all, remember 
what I said, no matter what I do, the President has to have partners all 
over America. Everybody's got a role to play. Everybody is important. In 
most schools where there are drugs and guns, some other kids who don't 
do drugs and don't have guns know about it. They could report it; they 
could help to get it done. They could organize themselves into groups in 
each school and say, ``We don't want drugs in our schools; we don't want 
guns, we don't want knives, we don't want violence in our schools.'' 
That could make a bigger difference in that school than anything the 
President could do.
    On the other question, I think you're right. One of the things that 
we have to do is to find young people who are likely to get in trouble 
and try to reach them before they get to the point where they are 
hurting other people, because a lot of young people never felt like they 
were loved. That's obvious to me; I see it all the time.
    Mr. Jennings. Do you know a lot of people who work here in the White 
House have children? And one of the things--this is a nice treat for 
you, Mr. President, perhaps--we asked several members of your staff to 
show us different rooms in the White House with their kids. And if we 
look at the monitors here now, we can see Henry Cisneros, one of your 
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bers of your Cabinet, showing his kids the Cabinet Room.
    We'll be right back.

[A videotape was shown, and then the television stations took a 
commercial break.]

    Mr. Jennings. Welcome back to our morning in the White House.

Physical Fitness Test

    Q. I had a fun question to ask you, and I was wondering, Mr. 
President, in elementary school we had to pass a physical fitness test 
to pretty much get an A, and you got a President's award or a 
certificate. And I was wondering if you've ever tried or ever thought of 
passing the test, or if you've even looked at the test that we have to 
pass?
    The President. I haven't, but I probably should. I imagine that I 
could pass it since I jog every day and do a little work on my weights 
and do some other things. I probably could, but I'll do it. I'll check 
on it. If I don't make it, then I'll have to get myself in shape.

Socks the Cat

    Q. I read a book called ``Socks in the White House,'' and it said 
that Socks had a bulletproof case. Does he really?
    The President. He can stand behind something that's bulletproof, but 
most of the time he's just out in the open. That's just a funny thing to 
say. It was a joke.
    Mr. Jennings. We have a couple questions from around the country. 
Remember last year, sir, we had some people on the telephone. Well, this 
year--that was kind of difficult so we've asked some people out around 
the country to ask you questions they've wanted to, and here's one on 
tape.

Education

    Q. My name is Jessica Jones. I'm 11 years old. I am from Red Bank, 
Tennessee. My question is, what are you planning for the improvement of 
public education?
    Mr. Jennings. That's pretty general. That should keep you going for 
a while.
    The President. Well, very briefly, we've got two bills in designed 
to help the public schools. One encourages schools to try all kinds of 
new and different experiments to improve education, but gives them some 
real standards so we know whether kids are learning or not, no matter 
where they live.
    The other one gives opportunities for kids to move from school to 
further training if they don't go on to college. So young kids that 
don't go to college still have a chance to get a good education and make 
a good living.

Bosnia

    Mr. Jennings. Now, we have a guest from overseas. Somebody mentioned 
Bosnia this morning. Right over here to your right, sir, is Zlata 
Filpovic, who comes from Sarajevo. And a lot of the kids in here last 
night, Zlata, knew all about you because of your diary. Perhaps we 
should show people at home a little bit first about your recent history.

[A videotape was shown in which Zlata described the horrors faced by 
children in war-torn Bosnia.]

    Mr. Jennings. Welcome to Washington again, Zlata. Your question for 
the President.
    Q. Usually people when they start war, they say, ``With this war we 
will get things.'' But I think usually they--all of them lose things. 
And I think it's really big stupidity. And I would like to ask you, is 
it war--is it end of that stupidity close? Is it closer?
    The President. I think it is closer. And I agree with you. These 
people started fighting in your country because they wanted territory 
for people who were just in their own ethnic group. And yet as you 
pointed out, people who lived in Sarajevo, they had friends--they didn't 
know if they were Serbs or Croats or Muslims. They lived together. But 
people from outside brought this war on to try to divide the country up.
    I think it is closer. Yesterday we signed an agreement here in 
Washington between the Croats and the Government of Bosnia, which is 
mostly Muslim but not entirely. And now the question is, will the Serbs 
agree to sign on? Will they agree to give up some of the territory they 
took so that everybody can live with a fair piece of land and we can 
stop killing the adults and the children? I think we're closer, and 
we're working very hard on it.
    Mr. Jennings. Okay. You've been very determined back there. Ram, is 
that your name? Mustaq, I'm sorry, Mustaq. I apologize.

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Health Care Reform

    Q. Do you like to be known as the President of the health care 
program?
    The President. Be known? Yes.
    Mr. Jennings. Sounds a bit like a set-up, doesn't it, sir?
    The President. Yes, I do. Because I want every American family to 
have health care. And a lot of them don't now, and millions who have it 
can lose it. And every other major country in the world with a good 
economy like ours gives all the families health care. We don't, and it's 
not right.
    Mr. Jennings. Has anybody else got a question about health care, 
because--oh goodness, lots of them.
    Q. My name's Mickey. I was on welfare. And you say you encourage 
people to get jobs when they are on welfare. But as soon as I started 
working, they took away all my benefits, including my medical benefits. 
I was better living off welfare than I am now working, because I'm not 
receiving any medical benefits anymore.
    The President. I talked about you and people like you in my State of 
the Union Address. I pointed out--you asked a health care question--if 
you're on welfare in America today and if you have children or if you're 
just yourself on welfare, you get covered by a medical program paid for 
by the Government. If you get off welfare and you go to work in a job 
that has no health insurance, you start working and paying your taxes so 
that someone who stayed on welfare can still get health care and you 
don't get it anymore. It's not fair. And you're right, the best thing we 
could do to end welfare as we know it is to give everybody health 
coverage so people would never be encouraged to stay on welfare.
    Good for you. Thank you for saying that.

Public Expectations

    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, do you think the people have too high 
expectations of what you can really accomplish?
    The President. Well, sometimes. That's why I always try to say, 
here's what I can do, here's what I can't do, and remind the American 
people that in a democracy, the people have to do a lot of things. We 
have to change this country from the grassroots, and a lot of the 
changes we have to make have to happen inside us: our attitudes about 
violence and our attitudes about young people, without regard to their 
race and what they can do. We've got to change our whole way of thinking 
about things.
    Mr. Jennings. Okay, here's a question right over here.

Education

    Q. My name is Ebony. My major concern is education. My question to 
you is, why is it necessary to bus children out of their neighborhoods, 
to get a, quote, unquote, ``equal education''? Shouldn't all schools 
offer the same programs, since we're all being taxed?
    The President. The answer is yes, all schools should offer the same 
programs and should achieve the same high standards of excellence. One 
real problem we've had in America--let me just say this real quick, I 
don't want to get into a long answer--but in America, our school system 
has usually been a local school system, run community by community, paid 
for by the State and local governments and a little money from us at the 
national level. What we're trying to do now is to move toward greater 
equality. The State of Michigan just voted in a historic vote to take 
most of the property taxes away from schools and give State taxes so 
everybody could get a more equal education. And it's going to be one of 
the great crusades of the next 10 years, giving all kids, no matter 
where they live, a decent education.
    Q. Thank you.
    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, I'm going to follow that up, if you 
don't mind, because we have a young man here more than determined to ask 
you a question about education. Reginald, right? Reginald, we've got a 
piece of tape of you at your school. Before you ask the President your 
question, let's take a look at that.

[A videotape was shown in which Reginald described how his school 
building had deteriorated over the years.]

    Mr. Jennings. Somebody observed, Reginald, you're at least going to 
make an investigative reporter when you grow up. You've got all the 
moves there.
    The President. Didn't he do a great job? Give him a hand. He was 
good. [Applause] Good job.
    Mr. Jennings. What's your question for the President?
    Q. A lot of the students are drawing away from their education. And 
one thing, a lot of kids are talking about Super Nintendo and

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things like that. What do you think about video games? And do you know 
that you are on a video game?
    The President. No, am I?
    Q. Yes, you are. I'd just like to tell you this. On Super Nintendo 
it's a basketball game called ``NBA Jam.'' And it's a code for Bill 
Clinton and Al Gore, and you have your own certain slam-dunk and 
everything.
    Mr. Jennings. You're kidding.
    The President. I have to confess, the Vice President's a better 
basketball player than I am, but I like the sport, I think, even more 
than he does.
    Let me tell you something about this. What happened was in the last 
12, 15 years, a lot of the schools got in financial problems, and it was 
easier to put off repairing the buildings and taking care of the 
buildings, instead of laying off personnel or other things. And it's a 
terrible problem. And I think there's going to have to be a real effort 
in every State in the country to fix these schools up. A lot of these 
old school buildings are better structurally than newer buildings, but 
nobody's taking care of them. And I appreciate your bringing that to 
public attention.
    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, somebody asked a little while ago what 
the difference was like between having this and meeting the press. Do 
you like to go to meet the press in the press briefing room?
    The President. I do. I do that there; sometimes I meet the press 
here when we have foreign leaders here. And when I have press 
conferences, we do it here sometimes.
    Mr. Jennings. We've asked David Dreyer, your Deputy Communications 
Director, to give us a tour of the press briefing room. We'll be right 
back.
    The President. This is where they ask me hard questions.

[A videotape was shown, and then the television stations took a 
commercial break.]

    Mr. Jennings. We have another question on tape from across the 
country. I'll be curious to know what you think of this one.

Media Coverage

    Q. Hello, my name is Michael Marcus. I'm 17 years old, and I live in 
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. My question to you, Mr. President, is with 
all the unfavorable press that you have been receiving, how are you able 
to focus and concentrate on the policies that you wish to pass through 
Congress?
    The President. Well, what I do is I answer the questions the best I 
can. And I recognize that the press is like a herd of cattle sometimes, 
they just get swarming on some issue and they become obsessed with it. 
But the American people are obsessed with their own lives. Look at the 
questions I've been asked today. I try to focus on those things. I try 
to respond to the press, deal with the negative questions, and then keep 
my time and my attention devoted to the things I was elected to deal 
with: the crime problem, the health care problem, the jobs problem, the 
education problem, the things that I've been asked about today.
    Mr. Jennings. Is that hard sometimes, though?
    The President. Sometimes it's very hard, but that's a big part of 
the test. I mean, this whole job is like a character test; you're always 
being measured and tested and pushed. And I believe it is my job to keep 
focused on the things I was elected to do. So that's what I have to do. 
And no matter how hard it is, in the end that's how I'll be judged in 
history, and that's how I'll judge myself.

Cattle Grazing Fees

    Mr. Jennings. All of these questions, you're perfectly right, are 
very much on the news. In fact, you mentioned cattle. This is Cotton 
over here, Cotton who is from Boulder, Wyoming.
    The President. Wyoming?
    Mr. Jennings. I know you have a question about cattle. Where's the 
microphone for Cotton there, guys? First of all, hold it, let's show the 
President a little bit about where you come from.

[A videotape was shown in which Cotton described how an increase in 
grazing fees could be detrimental to his family's cattle ranch.]

    Mr. Jennings. Okay, Cotton, what's your question?
    Q. Mr. President, my family are ranchers and so are many of my 
neighbors. Part of the year, we graze our cattle on the BLM and U.S. 
Forest Service lands. I know a lot about ranching, and I know a lot 
about taking good care of the environment. Mr. Babbitt and your 
administration's new plan is to double the grazing fees. This will 
really hurt my family, and our business cannot afford it. But it won't 
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ily, it will hurt all of our neighbors and all the businesses in our 
town.
    Mr. Jennings. What's your question, Cotton?
    Q. The grazing fees is not the total cost of grazing on public 
lands. So, Mr. President, I want to know, do you understand what it 
actually costs to graze on public lands? Because there are a lot of 
nonfee costs. And if you don't understand that, I'd like to explain them 
to you.
    The President. After the program, I'll be glad to talk to you more 
about it. But let me briefly say to all of you what this issue is about.
    A lot of the land in the West belongs to the Federal Government but 
has to be used and should be used by farmers and ranchers out there. The 
fees they pay are about one-fourth the fees they pay to graze on private 
land, much less. So there's a big push in the Congress, and has been for 
years, to ask them to pay more fees.
    On the other hand, if you charge them too much, they can't stay in 
business. Your Governor, Mike Sullivan, basically told Secretary Babbitt 
and me that the original plan that we proposed was too burdensome. And 
he went out there and started having meetings with the farmers and 
ranchers and basically changed that plan.
    While this plan would call for the doubling of the fees over 3 
years, it would also give farmers like you, who take good care of the 
land, a rebate, that is, the fees wouldn't go up that much if people are 
actually proving that they're doing their best to maintain the land.
    So the real purpose of the fee increase is not to get more money for 
the Government--it's not that much money--it is to encourage us to keep 
the land, maintain it, and make sure people will be able to graze it for 
generations to come.
    So it's a question of how to strike the right balance, and I'll be 
glad to talk to you about it after the program.
    Mr. Jennings. Another very contentious subject, right in front here. 
Brodie.
    The President. We'll talk some more after the program.
    Go ahead. Brodie, you're up.

Smoking

    Q. As you know, Mr. President, this has been concerning me for 
years, but as you know, all the illegal drugs, we get told how these can 
really hurt your body, they can mess you up, not to smoke marijuana or 
sniff cocaine or anything like that. But there's one drug that kills a 
lot more people than all those illegal ones combined. This drug is 
legal, and it's a cigarette. And every day, about 1,000 Americans die 
from smoking. I have a three-part question here. The first part is why 
are cigarettes still legal? The second part is what is your 
administration doing to try to help--oh, God----
    The President. Discourage people from smoking?
    Q. No, it's not that. It's to prevent smoking--cigarette companies 
from targeting their ads at children, with Joe Camel and all those other 
people?
    Mr. Jennings. Brodie, why don't you just hang on there for a 
second--there's a third part. Brodie works--I just met him a few minutes 
ago--he worked so hard on this question overnight. You've done terrific. 
It's a subject that every kid here is interested in.
    The President. The truth is, the reason cigarettes have not been 
declared illegal is because most Americans don't believe it should be 
illegal. They know that it's dangerous; the warnings are printed there. 
But most people believe that it's not as immoral as using drugs or as 
destructive to the fabric of society. And so there's not much sentiment 
to make cigarette smoking illegal. It's a deeply embedded part of our 
culture.
    On the other hand, for many years, cigarette smoking was declining, 
thank goodness, among Americans. Now we see some evidence that smoking 
is increasing among some people, particularly younger women, which I'm 
very concerned about. So our Surgeon General, Dr. Elders, who's 
responsible for talking to the American people about their health, has 
really launched a real aggressive initiative against cigarette smoking 
and especially against the second thing you talked about, which is 
targeting ads to young people, which I think is so wrong. I think it is 
really, really wrong. And we have to speak out against it and try to get 
people to change their practices. And I will keep doing that. I also 
favor increased taxes on cigarettes to discourage people from using 
them. The people in Michigan just voted for a 50-cent-a-pack tax on 
cigarettes and to give all the money to the schools. And we need to see 
more initiatives like that.
    Mr. Jennings. How old are you, Brodie?
    Q. Ten.

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    The President. Let me just make one other comment. Just like what 
Cotton said, there are a lot of good people in America who still raise 
tobacco. And we should have funds set aside for them in the cigarettes 
tax to help them convert away from raising tobacco to doing other kinds 
of farming so they can actually make a living. There are an awful lot of 
good people who do that work in States in our country, and we can move 
them, help them to do other things, and we should.
    Mr. Jennings.  Brodie, let's pass the mike down, just two down on 
your left there, okay? Oh, it's that third part.
    The President.  What's your third part?
    Q. And I've got the third part to this.
    Mr. Jennings. Is what?
    Q. And it is, will you commit you and your administration to making 
the secret list of ingredients on cigarettes public, because food 
companies have to publish theirs?
    The President. Oh, well, you know, we've been making a big deal out 
of that, about the fact that more nicotine has been put into some 
cigarettes. And we're going to try to get to the bottom of that and tell 
all of you what's going on. And I really appreciate your bringing that 
up. That really bothered me when I heard that there was more nicotine 
going in to make sure that people were really hooked on them.

President's Wish

    Q. I have a fun question. If you had one wish, what would it be?
    The President. If I had one wish, what would it be?
    Q. Yes.
    The President. I would wish for a safe and secure childhood for all 
of our people, all of our children.
    Mr. Jennings. Are you happy with that answer?
    The President. That's what I want. I mean, I think if all the 
families in this country could give their children a safe and happy 
childhood, a lot of our other problems would be solved. Now, there's a 
lot of elements in that, but that's what I want. I mean, I think that 
would be my wish.
    Mr. Jennings. Now, if my recollection is correct from a year ago, 
when the President meets with his staff tomorrow morning, he's going to 
tell them about a lot of the questions that you have raised. So, how 
would you like to see the room, now, where the President has his staff 
meetings every morning? This is the Roosevelt Room, and this is the 
Deputy Chief of Staff, Phil Lader, showing it to his kids.

[A videotape was shown, and then the television stations took a 
commercial break.]

Environmental Cleanup

    Mr. Jennings. Welcome back to the East Room, and we're joined 
again--nice to have you back, Purnell. Purnell Brewer is 13 years old 
from Gary, Louisiana. Did the President keep his word to you pretty 
much?

[Purnell, who believed his brother's death from cancer was a result of 
environmental pollution, said pollution had decreased since his 
appearance on the first ABC children's town meeting in February 1993 but 
more work needed to be done.]

    Mr. Jennings. All right, Purnell, hang on a second there and let the 
President maybe talk to that point.
    The President. Well, first, I'm glad things are getting better. We 
can now give people like your families all over America information 
about what kinds of chemicals are being produced in their areas so they 
can use it to work at the grassroots level to try to reduce it. We're 
also trying to reduce air pollution by 90 percent in toxic chemicals. 
And we're trying to protect poorer communities. You know, a lot of the 
worst pollution in this country is in poorer communities, in rural areas 
and cities.
    And so those are the things we are doing. We will stay on it; we'll 
keep talking about it. The Vice President, especially, and I have talked 
about it a lot. We'll keep doing that, and I'm glad to know it's better 
than it was.
    Mr. Jennings. This is another issue that I know is on a lot of kids' 
minds.
    Kimberly.

Prayer in Public Schools

    Q. President Clinton, earlier you said that when you were in high 
school, went to school, you felt safe. And a lot of times I hear my 
parents and grandparents say the exact same thing. And I keep 
wondering--at that time, prayer was mandated in schools, and since the 
prayer was taken away from public education and public schools, the 
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there was a connection, and what is your opinion of prayer in school?
    The President. I don't know that you can say that there is a 
connection. I do believe that 30 years ago, you had more coherent 
families, you had less violence, you had less unemployment, and values 
were taught in our schools more explicitly. The reason the Supreme Court 
made the decision on prayer is that they said that no Government should 
order people to pray or should say exactly what prayer they should give. 
And I agree with that. I mean, that's the first amendment. That's what 
we were founded on.
    On the other hand, I think schools should be available to religious 
groups. I think it's okay to have moments where people pray in silence. 
I don't think that prayer at sporting events or graduations is wrong, in 
my opinion. And I think that the most important thing is that we ought 
to start talking openly about what we need to do in our schools to 
promote values, truthfulness, law-abiding-ness, respect for others, and 
to lift those things up and talk about why kids shouldn't have kids, why 
people should not practice violence. I think those things should be put 
out there.
    I think that we could waste a lot of energy trying to revisit the 
extent to which the Government could order people to be involved in 
prayer or order prayer services. But I think that it's okay for schools 
to permit moments where people can pray on their own if that's what they 
want to do. But the main thing is, the schools ought to be teaching 
values. I think they should be, and when they got out of it, it was a 
big mistake.

Abortion

    Q. Mr. President, I was wondering, why do you think that abortions 
of teenagers and any women should be able to stay legal in America? And 
what about it makes you think this way?
    The President. I believe that it should be--I think that until the 
child--the present law is that until a baby can live outside his 
mother's womb on its own, it is up to the mother to make the decision. 
And that's what I think the law should be, because in America there is a 
huge difference of opinion. The American people are divided deeply on 
it, about when the soul goes into the body, when a person becomes a 
human being. And not everybody agrees that all abortion is murder. Not 
everybody agrees that every abortion, under any circumstances, is wrong. 
Therefore, I don't think that all the mothers should be made criminal.
    I think that abortion should be safe, it should be legal, but it 
should be rare. I think we should liberalize the adoption laws. I think 
we should encourage people to adopt children. I think we should make it 
easier for people to adopt children across racial lines. But I don't 
believe--in my own view, I support the decision of the Supreme Court 
that this decision ought to be a matter between women and their doctors.
    I don't think everybody else in society can say with absolute 
certainty that they know that, and there's even big differences in the 
religious community over it, so I don't think that one view should be 
imposed on everybody when there's so much difference of opinion about 
it.
    Mr. Jennings. Patience, why don't you give the mike to the young 
woman next to you, Jamie. Right beside you. Jamie.

Child Support

    Q. I think there is a big problem in America about fathers not 
taking care of their children, not paying child support. And I'm 
wondering if there's anything you could do to help.
    The President. It's a huge problem, billions of dollars a year. 
There are a lot of children who are forced onto welfare because their 
absent fathers don't pay child support. And one of the things that we 
are trying to do is to make it easier to collect that child support, if 
fathers cross the State line, if they run away from their 
responsibility, to be able to have their paychecks have the child 
support taken out on the front end, to be able to deny the father 
certain credit privileges and other privileges until they pay the child 
support that they owe. I think we need a tough national system of child 
support enforcement and collection. That would do a lot to help families 
grow up with dignity and children without poverty.
    Mr. Jennings. Jamie, you asked that question for a reason, did you?
    Q. Yes.
    Mr. Jennings. What is it?
    Q. My dad is very wealthy. They got divorced about 6 years ago, and 
he is not paying the amount he should be paying. And we've been going to 
court for a very long time, and nothing has come out of it at all.
    The President. Do you live in a different State from your father?

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    Q. Yes, he lives in California.
    The President. See, that's a big problem because most of the child 
support laws are State-by-State laws. If the father lives in a different 
State from the child, it's easier to get out of. What we're trying to do 
is to set up some national standards so the children of this country 
will be protected and be taken care of.
    Mr. Jennings. Do you think you're getting any closer? This is a 
question that seems to come up every year.
    The President. Well, it's better than it used to be, and it's going 
to get better. If we pass our welfare reform proposal, it will be 
better, because people should not be able to bring children into the 
world and just walk off and leave them. They ought to take 
responsibility for the children that they bring into the world. And we 
ought to do what we can, and yes, we're making some progress.
    Mr. Jennings. Okay. Right here.

Health Care

    Q. Hello.
    Mr. Jennings. What's your name, dear?
    Q. Sara. Mr. Clinton, I am very concerned that it is very hard to 
get health care in America. And one of those reasons is because not all 
doctors take Medicaid. And if you're on Medicaid, then sometimes the 
people in my area, the doctors, would not see me. For 4 months I could 
not get medication for asthma, and I missed a month of school. And my 
school decided to penalize me, withhold all my credits for that 
semester, because they have a State law in Texas that says that you have 
to go to school a certain amount of days, and my school is not in 
compliance with that law. And I was wondering, what can you do to help 
this problem of, first of all, doctors--more incentive for doctors to 
take Medicaid, to see the people that need to be seen? And another one 
is, to help the schools understand that when a person is sick they 
should be more helpful instead of penalizing that student.
    Mr. Jennings. Double-barreled.
    The President. Well, let me say, first of all, I can do more about 
the first than the second. The schools, it depends upon whether the 
people who run the schools are sensitive, whether the counselors and the 
teachers really know what the kids' lives are like. And I think that 
that's something we have to keep working on, and that's beyond what the 
President can do.
    But I can do something about the first. A lot of doctors don't 
take--I don't think it's right for doctors not to see Medicaid patients, 
but the reason a lot of them don't is because in many States, Medicaid, 
the Government health program for poor people, doesn't reimburse the 
doctors at the real costs of providing the service. And it's a lot of 
paperwork headache. One of the things that our health care will do is to 
put Medicaid folks in with other people in the same sort of health care 
plans. So we'll provide health care coverage for everybody, for the 
employed, for the unemployed, and people will be able to go into common 
health care plans so that doctors won't, in many cases, might not even 
know in the beginning whether they have a Medicaid patient or somebody 
who works at the store down the street. And Medicaid people will be 
treated by the same coverage and have access to the same kind of 
dignified treatment that others do. And it will really make a huge 
difference.

The Presidency

    Mr. Jennings. Put your hands down for just one second. How many of 
you think that when you bring up a problem to the President, that he can 
actually go and solve it? They're fairly practical about that, because 
there are only so many problems a President can----
    The President. Yes. Some things I can do. Some things I can't do. 
Some things I can do if other people will help me. And it's very--that's 
why I try to tell you what I can do and what I can't when you ask these 
questions.
    Mr. Jennings. We'll be right back.
    The President. We ought to say one thing about that when we come 
back.
    Mr. Jennings. Which is?
    The President. Which is what Purnell said, that--Teddy Roosevelt, 
who was President at the early--the first President of the 20th 
century--McKinley until 1901--Teddy Roosevelt said once that the 
greatest power of the Presidency was the bully pulpit, the ability to 
talk about these problems and to give other people the chance to be 
heard. Some of you, like Cotton, want me to change a Government policy 
here. But because of the bully pulpit of the Presidency, because Peter 
came here, he can be heard by people who never saw a cattle ranch before 
and may not understand that problem. And you get to ask me all kinds of 
questions. You got to--Patience got to ask me the

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question she wanted to ask about abortion; Sara got to ask the question 
she wanted to ask about health care. That's because this is a bully 
pulpit. So even some things that I don't have legal authority over, it's 
still important for the President to talk about and to let others talk 
about and even disagree with the President on, because that's the way 
America learns and grows and debates.
    So I think it's very important. Like you asked--you said the 
question about welfare. It's important for the American people to know 
that the reason most people don't get off welfare is because they or 
their children lose health care, not because they like being on welfare, 
not because they want a check from the Government. Most everybody would 
rather be out working. But when you go to work and you lose the health 
care, then you wonder what you're going to do if your kids get sick. 
That's a real pain. So these are important things.
    Mr. Jennings. We'll be right back.
    The President. Is it time to go?
    Mr. Jennings. Yes. We'll be right back.

[The television stations took a commercial break.]

    Mr. Jennings. Welcome back to our answering children's questions 
with the President here in the East Room. As it used to look, President 
Adams and Abigail Adams, the first inhabitants here, hanging up the 
laundry in those days, I bet it was not as much fun around here then.
    The President. That's right.
    Mr. Jennings. Such a precious room now that everybody's very, very 
self-conscious about what happens in here.
    The President. Oh, yes.

Electromagnetic Fields and Cancer

    Mr. Jennings. We had invited a young boy here today named Kevin 
Larm, who very much wanted to ask you a question, sir. Unfortunately, 
last night here in Washington he got sick, and he's in the hospital. But 
his brother has come. And before you meet his brother, Patrick, perhaps 
you'd like to see the problem which he has around the country. This is a 
problem that has come up in the news on several occasions about the kind 
of environmental problem that you may or may not be able to do something 
about.
    Here's Kevin Larm.

[A videotape was shown in which Kevin explained that he was one of many 
children who had cancer associated with electromagnetic fields near 
their homes.]

    Mr. Jennings. Well, Kevin comes from Omaha, and as I said, he's in 
the hospital here this morning, sir, but his brother, Patrick, is here.
    Patrick, do you want to talk to the President?
    Q. I want to ask you his question. I have heard that recent studies 
have linked EMF's to childhood cancers. Other countries, such as Sweden, 
are passing laws to set standards. As our President, can you help lower 
EMF's, so hopefully some childhood cancers can be prevented?
    The President. That's something that we can do something about. We 
had a study in 1990 which was inconclusive about it. But you're right, 
Sweden has concluded that EMF's do lead to higher rates of cancer. So I 
have asked the person who runs the Environmental Protection Agency for 
our Government to do a review of this and to make a report to me in the 
near future to try to make a decision about what we should do.
    I think we've got to see what the best available evidence is. But I, 
frankly, was somewhat impressed by the arguments made by the Swedes. We 
just have to look into it and see whether we think there's honestly 
evidence there. And if there is, then we have to take action. And we're 
looking into it. And you tell your brother to hang in there.
    Mr. Jennings. You can probably tell him yourself, sir. I have a 
suspicion he's watching.
    The President. Kevin, I hope you're watching this, and we're praying 
for you and pulling for you.

The Presidency

    Mr. Jennings. Mr. President, you know, it occurs to me at least, 
listening to all these kids ask their questions today, that they're in 
touch with problems that you may be out of touch with sometimes. Here 
you are in the White House; you're surrounded by an enormous entourage 
all the time. Do you ever feel out of touch?
    The President. Yes, but that's one reason I really work hard to get 
out into the country and to walk the streets. I went to New Hampshire 
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and then I walked the streets in Keene, New Hampshire, and just shook 
hands with people and talked to them and listened to them. When people 
come to see me in the White House, I always ask them what the cab 
drivers are talking about. Because it's so easy for the President to get 
out of touch with what real people are thinking. I mean, it's a 
wonderful life, but you can see it's not a normal life. So you get 
really isolated, and you have to work to avoid it.
    Mr. Jennings. One other thing I cannot help but to have noticed: 
There hasn't been a question this morning about Whitewater. We'll be 
right back. [Laughter]

[The television stations took a commercial break.]

    Mr. Jennings. Well, we've got about a minute left, Mr. President.
    The President. I want to talk to you more about the prayer question.
    Mr. Jennings. Okay. I must say that this year's group is incredibly 
eager and determined to ask their question. We've only got a minute or 
so left. Do you want to try to say something to them all?
    The President. Well, do you want to take one more question?
    Mr. Jennings. I don't think we have time, to be perfectly honest.
    The President. And then I'll try to answer everyone who didn't get 
to ask a question. When you go through the line or when we go visit, 
then I'll try to answer your question.
    Mr. Jennings. One thing I can tell you about the President, once you 
get him, when the broadcast is over, grab him. He'll be here all 
afternoon, driving his staff crazy.
    Go ahead, sir. Final comments?
    The President. Well, first I want to thank all of you for coming. I 
want to thank you for your questions. And I want to thank you for caring 
enough about all the things you raised. And I just want to encourage you 
in your lives. You know, we've got a big job to do in this country. And 
I have a big job to do to try to create more jobs and more opportunity, 
but we also have to have more people like you who really care about 
their friends and neighbors and family members. We have to rebuild our 
country from the ground up, safe streets, strong families, better 
schools, and a better chance. And I owe that to you to do my best, but I 
need you to do your best, too.
    Heather, what were you going to say?
    Mr. Jennings. Yes, I was going to say, I just suddenly remembered 
somebody told me----
    The President. Come on, Heather.
    Mr. Jennings.  ----Heather has a handleable question.

McDonald's

    Q. Well, I have a fun question for you. And I know you used to run 
in Arkansas, so I think you will like it. My favorite restaurant is 
McDonald's too. What do you get when you go there? [Laughter]
    The President. What do I get when I go there? Normally, an Egg 
McMuffin or something for breakfast. Those are the big meals that I eat 
at McDonald's. My daughter and I used to go there sometimes on Sunday 
morning before Sunday school, and then Hillary and I would go and pick 
her up and we'd go to church. But we love to have McDonald's Egg 
McMuffins on Sunday morning.
    Mr. Jennings. I must say, that's the first smile I've seen on 
Heather's face all morning.
    The President. I'm glad you smiled, Heather. You've made me smile, 
too. You have a wonderful smile.
    Mr. Jennings. Thank you, Mr. President, for having us in. And thank 
you all for coming. You can all come and say hello to him in person now.
    The President. Thanks.

Note: The town meeting began at 11:30 a.m. in the East Room at the White 
House. Peter Jennings, ABC News, was the moderator for the program.