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HEARINGS  REGARDING  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTRATION 
OF  THE  MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

EIGHTIETH  CONGRESS 

FIRST  SESSION 


Public  Law  601 

(Section  121,  Subsection  Q  (2)) 


OCTOBER  20,  21,  22,  23,  24,  27,  28,  29,  AND  30,  1947 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 


HEARINGS  REGARDING  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTRATION 
OF  THE  MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

EIGHTIETH  CONGKESS 

FIRST  SESSION 


Public  Law  601 

(Section  121,  Subsection  Q  (2)) 


OCTOBER  20,  21,  22,  23,  24,  27,  28,  29,  AND  30,  1947 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 


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COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 

J.  PARNELL  THOMAS,  New  Jersey,  Chairman 
KARL  E.  MUNDT,  South  Dakota  JOHN  S.  WOOD,  Georgia 

JOHN  Mcdowell,  Pennsylvania  JOHN  E.  RANKIN,  Mississippi 

RICHARD  M.  NIXON,  California  J.  HARDIN  PETERSON,  Florida 

RICHARD  B.  VAIL,  Illinois  HERBERT  C.  BONNER,  North  Carolina 

Robert  E.  Stripling,  Chief  Investigator 
Benjamin  Mandel,  Director  o/  Research 
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CONTENTS 


October  20,  1947: 

Testimony  of —  Page 

H.  a"  Smith 4 

A.  B.  Leckie 5 

Louis  J.  Russell 6 

Jack  L.  Warner 7 

Samuel  Gros venor  Wood 54 

Louis  Burt  Mayer 69 

Ayn  Rand 82 

October  21,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

Adolph  Menjou 91 

John  Charles  Moffitt . 108 

Rupert  Hughes 128 

October  22,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

James  K.  McGuiimess 135 

Robert  Taylor 164 

Howard  Rushmore 171 

Morrie  Ryskind 181 

October  23,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

Fred  Niblo 189 

Richard  Macaulay 197 

Robert  Montgomery 203 

George  L.  Murphy 208 

Ronald  Reagan 213~ 

Gary  Cooper 219 

Leo  McCarey 225 

October  24,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

Lela  E.  Rogers J :__.  229 

Ohver  Carlson 238 

Walter  E.  Disney 280 

October  27,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

John  Howard  Lawson 290 

Louis  J.  Russell 296 

Eric  Allen  Johnston 305 

October  28,  1947: 

Testimony  of — 

-  Dalton  Trumbo 329 

Louis  J.  Russell 34 1 

Roy  M.  Brewer 342 

Statement  of  Paul  V.  McNutt 360 

Testimony  of — 

Albert  Maltz 363 

Robert  W.  Kenny 367 

Louis  J.  Russell 370 

Alyah  Bessie 383 

Louis  J.  Russell 388 

Roy  M.  Brewer  (resumed) 394 

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October  29,  1947: 

Testimony  of—  Page 

Samuel  Ornitz 402 

Louis  J.  Russell 405 

Herbert  Joseph  Biberman 412 

Louis  J.  Russell 415 

Emmet  G.  Lavery 419 

Edward  Dmvtryk 459 

Louis  J.  Russell 462 

Adrian  Scott " 466 

Louis  J.  Russell 468 

Dore  Schary 469 

October  30,  1947: 
Testimony  of — 

Ring  Lardner,  Jr 479 

Loviis  J.  Russell 483 

Lester  Cole 486 

Louis  J.  Russell 4*^9 

Berthold  Brecht 491 

Louis  J.  Russell 5^4 

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HEARINGS  REGARDINrT  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTEATION 
OF  THE  MOTION-PICTUEE-INDUSTHY  ACTIVITIES  IN 
THE  UNITED  STATES 


MONDAY,   OCTOBER   20,    1947 

House  of  Representati\'es, 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 

Washington^  D.  C. 

The  committee  met  at  10 :  30  ca.  m.,  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  (chair- 
man) presiding. 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order.  The  record  will 
show  that  the  following  members  are  present:  Mr.  McDowell,  Mr. 
Vail,  Mr.  Nixon,  Mr.  Thomas.    A  subcommittee  is  sitting. 

Staff  members  present :  Mr.  Robert  E.  Stripling,  chief  investigator; 
Messrs.  Louis  J.  Russell,  Robert  B.  Gaston,  H.  A.  Smith,  and  A.  B. 
Leckie,  investigators;  and  Mr.  Benjamin  Mandel,  director  of  research. 
Before  this  hearing  get  under  way,  I  would  like  to  call  attention  to 
some  of  the  basic  principles  by  which  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  is  being  guided  in  its  investigation  into  alleged  subversive 
influence  in  America's  motion-picture  industry. 

The  committee  is  well  aware  of  the  magnitude  of  the  subject  which 
it  is  investigating.  The  motion-picture  business  represents  an  invest- 
ment of  billions  of  dollars.  It  represents  employment  for  thousands 
of  workers,  ranging  from  unskilled  laborers  to  high-salaried  actors 
and  executives.  And  even  more  important,  the  motion-picture  indus- 
try represents  wdiat  is  probably  the  largest  single  vehicle  of  enter- 
tainment for  the  American  public — over  85,000,000  persons  attend  the 
movies  each  week. 

However,  it  is  the  very  magnitude  of  the  scope  of  the  motion-picture 
industry  which  makes  this  investigation  so  necessary.  We  all  recog- 
nize, certainl}'-,  the  tremendous  effect  which  moving  pictures  have  on 
their  mass  audiences,  far  removed  from  the  Hollywood  sets.  We  all 
recognize  that  what  the  citizen  sees  and  hears  in  his  neighborhood 
movie  house  carries  a  pow^erful  impact  on  his  thoughts  and  behavior. 

With  such  vast  influence  over  the  lives  of  American  citizens  as  the 
motion-picture  industry  exerts,  it  is  not  unnatural — in  fact,  it  is  very 
logical — that  subversive  and  undemocratic  forces  should  attempt  to 
use  this  medium  for  un-American  purposes. 

I  want  to  emphasize  at  the  outset  of  these  hearings  that  the  fact 
that  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  is  investigating  al- 
leged Communist  influence  and  infiltration  in  the  motion-picture 
industry  must  not  be  considered  or  interpreted  as  an  attack  on  the 
majority  of  persons  associated  with  this  great  industry.  I  have  every 
confidence  that  the  vast  majority  of  movie  workers  are  patriotic  and 
loyal  Americans. 

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This  committee,  under  its  mandate  from  the  House  of  Kepresenta- 
tives,  has  the  responsibility  of  exposing  and  spotlighting  subversive 
elements  Avherever  tliey  may  exist.  As  I  have  already  pointed  out,  it 
is  only  to  be  expected  that  such  elements  would  strive  desperately  to 
gain  entry  to  the  motion-picture  industry,  simply  because  the  industry 
offers  such  a  tremendous  weapon  for  education  and  propaganda.  That 
Communists  have  made  such  an  attempt  in  Hollywood  and  with  con- 
siderable success  is  already  evident  to  this  committee  from  its  pre- 
liminary investigative  work. 

The  problem  of  Communist  infiltration  is  not  limited  to  the  movie 
industry.  That  even  our  Federal  Government  has  not  been  immune 
from  the  menate  is  evidenced  by  the  fact  that  $11,000,000  is  now  being  - 
spent  to  rid  the  Federal  service  of  Communists.  Communists  are 
also  firmly  entrenched  in  control  of  a  number  of  large  and  powerful 
labor  unions  in  this  country.  Yet  simply  because  there  are  Com- 
munist union  leaders  among  the  longshoremen  or  seamen,  for  example, 
one  does  not  infer  that  the  owners  of  the  shipping  industries  are  Com- 
munists and  Communist  sympathizers,  or  that  the  majority  of  work- 
ers in  those  industries  hold  to  an  un-American  philosophy.  So  it  is 
with  the  movie  industry. 

I  cannot  emphasize  too  strongly  the  seriousness  of  Communist 
infiltration,  which  we  have  found  to  be  a  mutual  problem  for  many, 
many  different  fields  of  endeavor  in  the  United  States.  Communists 
for  years  have  been  conducting  an  unrelentless  "boring  from  within" 
campaign  against  America's  democratic  institutions.  While  never 
possessing  a  large  numerical  strength,  the  Communists  nevertheless 
have  found  that  they  could  dominate  the  activities  of  unions  or  otlier 
mass  enterprises  in  this  country  by  capturing  a  few  strategic  posi- 
tions of  leadership. 

This  technique,  I  am  sorry  to  say,  has  been  amazingly  profitable  for 
the  Communists.  And  they  have  been  aided  all  along  the  line  by 
non-Communists,  who  are  either  sympathetic  to  the  aims  of  com- 
munism or  are  unwilling  to  recognize  the  danger  in  Communist 
infiltration. 

The  ultimate  purpose  of  the  Communists  is  a  well-established  fact. 
Despite  sporadic  statements  made  to  the  contrary  for  reasons  of 
expediency,  the  Communist  movement  looks  to  the  establishment  of 
Soviet-dominated,  totalitarian  governments  in  all  of  the  countries 
of  the  world,  and  the  Communists  are  willing  to  use  force  and  violence 
to  achieve  this  aim  if  necessary. 

The  United  States  is  one  of  the  biggest  obstacles  to  this  movement. 
The  fact  was  startlingly  illustrated  recently  by  the  open  announce- 
ment of  the  Communist  International — a  world-wide  party  organiza- 
tion dedicated  to  promoting  world-wide  Communist  revolution,  which 
previously  operated  underground. 

The  vituperation  leveled  at  the  United  States  by  this  new  interna- 
tional Communist  organization  clearly  indicated  that  America  is 
considered  the  chief  stumbling  block  in  the  Soviet  plans  for  world 
domination  and  is  therefore  the  chief  target  in  what  we  might  call 
the  Soviet  Union's  ideological  war  against  non-Soviet  governments. 

There  is  no  question  that  there  are  Communists  in  Hollywood.  We 
cannot  minimize  their  importance  there,  and  that  their  influence  has 
already  made  itself  felt  has  been  evidenced  by  internal  turmoil  in  the 


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industry  over  the  Communist  issue.  Prominent  figures  in  the  motion- 
picture  business  have  been  engaged  in  a  sort  of  running  battle  over 
Comnumist  infiltration  for  the  last  4  or  5  years  and  a  number  of  anti- 
Communist  organizations  have  been  set  up  within  the  industry  in  an 
attempt  to  combat  this  menace. 

The  question  before  this  conunittee,  therefore,  and  the  scope  of  its 
present  inquiry,  will  be  to  determine  the  extent  of  Communist  infiltra- 
tion in  the  Hollywood  motion-picture  industry.  We  want  to  know 
what  strategic  positions  in  the  industry  have  been  captured  by  these 
elements,  whose  loyalty  is  pledged  in  word  and  deed  to  the  interests 
of  a  foreign  power. 

The  conunittee  is  determined  that  the  hearings  shall  be  fair  and 
impartial.  We  have  subpenaed  witnesses  representing  both  sides 
of  the  question.     All  we  are  after  are  the  facts. 

Now,  I  want  to  make  it  clear  to  the  witnesses,  the  audience,  the  mem- 
bers of  the  press,  and  other  guests  here  today  that  this  hearing  is 
going  to  be  conducted  in  an  orderly  and  dignified  manner  at  all  times. 
But  if  there  is  anyone  here  today  or  at  any  of  the  future  sessions  of 
this  hearing  who  entei'tains  any  hopes  or  plans  for  disrupting  the  pro- 
ceedings, he  may  as  well  dismiss  it  from  his  mind. 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Chairman 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  am  attorney  for  the  19  subpenaed 
witnesses,  as  is  Mr.  Bartley  Crum.  You  recall  that  we  submitted  a 
telegram  yesterday  on  a  motion  to  quash.  It  seems  to  me  that  the 
most  orderly  way  that  we  can  present  this  would  be  to  do  so  before  a 
witness  has  been  sworn  under  any  subpena  as  the  motion  would  be 
identical  for  any  witness.  If  the  committee  is  without  constitutional 
authority  to  proceed  to 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.     May  I  ask  your  name,  please? 

Mr.  Kenny.  Robert  Kenny,  and  this  is  my  associate,  Mr.  Bartley 
Crum. 

The  Chairman.  And  you  represent  the  19  witnesses  whose  names 
were  listed  in  the  telegram  sent  to  me  this  morning? 

Mr.  Kenny.  That  is  right,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Tlie  Ciiair^ian.  INIr.  Kenny,  these  Avitnesses  of  yours  will  not  be 
called  until  next  week,  they  will  not  come  up  today  at  all,  or  any  other 
day  this  week.  So  if  you  will  present  your  statement  to  the  committee, 
we  will  take  it  under  advisement,  and  then  you  can  argue  the  ques- 
tion, if  the  committee  sees  fit,  when  your  witnesses  come  up  next  Mon- 
day— I  believe  the  first  witnesses  are  to  come  up  Monday  or  Tuesday 
or  Wednesday.  So  if  you  will  just  present  your  statement  to  the 
committee. 

Mr.  Crum.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  file 

The  Chairman.  Present  your  statement  to  the  committee. 

Mr.  Crum.  Thank  j^ou.  I  would  like  to  file  this  with  you,  Mr. 
Chairman. 

(A  paper  was  handed  to  Mr.  Stripling.) 

The  Chairman.  That  will  be  filed.  You  discuss  the  matter  further 
when  you  present  your  witnesses  to  tlie  committee. 

Mr.  Stripling,  the  first  witness  today. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  ask  Mr.  H.  A.  Smith  to  take  the  stand. 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Chairman 


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The  Chairman.  I  am  sorry.    Just  a  minute. 

I  am  very  sorry,  but  we  have  a  certain  procedure  to  follow.  You, 
as  the  former  Attorney  General  in  the  State  of  California,  know 
how  important  it  is  to  follow  the  procedure.  You  also  know  the 
great  necessity  for  order.  It  will  probably  be  difficult  to  maintain 
order  in  these  hearings.  So  you  will  just  have  to  bear  with  us,  Mr. 
Kenny.  You  may  come  back  when  you  present  your  witnesses  next 
week. 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Chairman 

The  Chairman.  That  is  all. 

Mr.  Crum.  May  we  ask  if  we  have  a  right  to  cross-examine? 

The  Chairman.  You  may  not  ask  one  more  thing  at  this  time. 
Please  be  seated. 

Mr.  Crum.  Certainly  American. 

The  Chairman.  Kaise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  3^ou  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  shall  give  will  be 
the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth? 

Mr.  Smith.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Be  seated,  please. 

TESTIMONY  OF  H.  A.  SMITH 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Smith,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address. 

Mr.  Smith.  My  name  is  H.  A.  Smith.  I  reside  at  1514  Bel  Aire 
Drive,  Glendale,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Smith.  I  was  born  in  Dixon,  111.,  in  October  1909. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Smith,  were  you  ever  employed  by  the  Federal 
Bureau  of  Investigation? 

Mr.  S]MiTH.  I  was.  I  was  employed  as  a  special  agent  of  the  Federal 
Bureau  of  Investigation  from  193.5  to  and  including  1942. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  outline  for  the  committee  the  various 
positions  you  have  held  in  the  Bureau,  and  the  nature  of  your  work? 

Mr.  Smith.  During  that  period  of  time  I  worked  in  a  number  of 
various  field  offices,  the  last  5  years  of  which  I  was  assigned  to  the 
Los  Angeles  office.  While  there  I  was  what  is  called  a  No.  1  man, 
or  assistant  to  the  agent  in  charge. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  We  will  have  to  have  more  order. 
We  will  particularly  have  to  have  more  order  from  our  friends,  the 
photographers.     We  just  can't  hear  the  witness.- 

Go  ahead. 

The  Witness.  During  that  time  I  was  in  charge  of  the  internal 
security  investigations  of  the  Los  Angeles  field  division,  which  had 
to  do  with  matters  relating  to  the  national  defense,  espionage,  sabotage, 
and  all  of  those  related  articles — fascism,  nazism,  and  communism. 

After  resigning  from  the  Federal  Bui'oau  of  Investigation  in  1942 
I  was  manager  of  plant  protection  at  Lockheed  Aircraft  in  charge  of 
security  from  1942  until  1944,  since  which  time  I  have  returned  to  the 
practice  of  law  and  investigation  at  Los  Angeles. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Smith,  were  you  appointed  on  July  18,  1947,  as 
a  special  investigator  to  conduct  investigations  for  the  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  into  alleged  Communist  influences  in  the 
motion-picture  industry  ?  ■ 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  5 

Mr.  Smith.  Yes,  sir;  I  was;  and  since  that  time  I  have  been  en- 
o;ao;ed  continuously  in  interviewing  hundreds  of  people,  reviewing 
files,  working  practically  night  and  day,  and  Saturday,  and  Sundays, 
in  an  effort  to  gather  information  to  present  to  this  committee.  Dur- 
ing the  ensuing  session  I  have  been  assisted  in  the  investigation  by 
Mr.  A.  B.  Leckie. 

The  Chairman.  Let  the  record  show  that  Mr.  Wood  is  present  and 
a  quorum  of  the  full  committee  is  present. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  have  been  assisted  by  Mr,  A.  B.  Leckie — L-e-c-k-i-e. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  those  are  all  the  questions  I  have  at 
this  time  of  Mr.  Smith. 

The  Chairman.  Do  any  of  the  members  have  any  questions  of  Mr. 
Smith? 

Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  IMcDowell? 

Mr.  McDowell.  No  questions. 

Mr.  Stripling.  This  is  purely  for  the  purpose  of  identification. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon? 

Mr.  Nixon.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  No. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Smith. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  now  ask  Mr.  Leckie  to  take  the  stand. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are 
about  to  give  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the 
truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Leckie.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  A.  B.  LECKIE 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Leckie,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  pres- 
ent address? 

Mr.  Leckie.  A.  B.  Leckie,  449  North  Orlando  Street,  Los  Angeles, 
Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  "Wlien  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Leckie.  Born  in  Greenville,  Ala.,  1905. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Leckie,  were  j^ou  ever  employed  by  the  Federal 
Bureau  of  Investigation  ? 

Mr.  Leckie.  I  was. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  outline  for  the  committee  the  positions  you 
held  with  the  Bureau  ? 

Mr.  Leckie.  I  served  1  year  as  administrative  assistant  to  ]\Ir. 
Hoover.  I  was  a  year  and  a  half  in  charge  of  the  Philadelphia  office 
and  was  assigned  to  other  offices  prior  to  that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  held  any  other  positions,  either  in  the 
Bureau  or  in  the  armed  services  of  the  LTnited  States,  which  would 
qualify  you  as  an  investigator? 

Mr.  Leckie.  I  served  in  a  similar  capacity  with  the  United  States 
Navy  during  the  war. 

IVIr.  Stripling.  From  what  period  ? 

Mr.  Leckie.  From  1942  to  1945,  inclusive. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Leckie,  you  were  appointed  on  Julj^  18,  1947, 
as  a  special  investigator  to  assist  Mr.  Smith  in  his  investigation  of 


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alleged  Communist  activity  in  the  motion-picture  industry;  is  that 
true  ? 

Mr,  Leckie.  I  was;  and  I  have  worked  continuously  with  him 
through  the  entire  time. 

]Mr.  Stribling.  That  is  all,  Mr.  Chairman,  at  this  time. 

The  Chairman.  Do  any  members  of  the  committee  have  any  ques- 
tions ? 

(No  response.) 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you,  Mr,  Leckie. 

Mr.  Stribling.  Next,  I  would  like  to  call  Mr.  Louis  J.  Kussell. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Russell,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testi- 
mon}^  you  are  about  to  give  shall  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and 
nothing  but  the  truth? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  RUSSELL 

Mr.  Stribling.  Will  you  state  your  full  name  and  present  address, 
Mr.  Russell? 

Mr.  Russell.  Louis  J.  Russell,  Washington,  D.  C. 

Mr.  Stribling.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Louisville,  Ky.,  December  16, 1911. 

Mr.  Stribling,  You  are  presently  a  member  of  the  investigative  staff 
of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities? 

Mr,  Russell.  I  am,  sir. 

Mr.  Stribling.  How  long  have  you  been  an  investigator  for  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities? 

Mr,  Russell,  Since  May  1945. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  ever  employed  by  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation  ? 

Mr,  Russell.  I  was  employed  by  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investiga- 
tion for  a  period  of  10  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  positions  did  you  hold  with  the  Bureau  as  an 
investigative  agent? 

Mr.  Russell.  While  with  the  Bureau  I  served  in  the  Indianapolis, 
Newark,  Washington,  Hartford,  and  Oklahoma  field  divisions. 
While  attached  to  the  Newark  field  division  I  was  supervising  agent 
in  charge  of  accounting,  criminal  investigation,  and  allied  subjects. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  at  any  time  been  detailed  by  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  proceed  to  Hollywood  to 
conduct  an  investigation  into  alleged  Communist  influences  in  the 
motion-picture  industry  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  I  was ;  in  1945,  during  the  month  of  August,  I 
conducted  an  approximately  3-week  investigation  in  Hollywood, 
Calif.,  and  following  that  I  conducted  further  investigation  in  Wash- 
ington, D.  C,  and  other  cities  relating  to  the  Hollywood  motion- 
picture  industry. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  you  proceed  to  Hollywood  this  year  for  the 
purpose  of  making  an  investigation? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes,  sir ;  during  the  month  of  May  1947. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  all,  Mr,  Chairman. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  7 

The  Chairman.  Does  any  rneniber  of  the  committee  have  any 
questions  to  ask  ? 

(No  response.) 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  desire  to  call 
is  Mr.  Jack  L.  Warner. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are 
about  to  give  shall  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but 
the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JACK  L.  WAKNER 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  are  you  accompanied  by  counsel? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  identify  your  counsel? 

Mr.  Warner.  Mr.  Paul  V.  McNutt. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  McNutt,  do  you  have  any  statement  you  would 
like  to  make  as  to  whom  you  are  representing  at  this  hearing^ 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  represent  the  Motion  Picture  Asso- 
ciation of  America,  Inc.,  and  the  Association  of  Motion  Picture  Pro- 
ducers, Inc.,  and  their  member  companies.  Mr.  Warner's  company 
is  a  member  of  both  associations. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  will  be  appearing,  then,  with  various  witnesses? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  That  is  true. 

Mr.  Stripling.  From  time  to  time? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  represent  in  any  way  the  19  witnesses  who 
are  represented  by  Mr.  Kenny  and  Mr.  Crum  ? 

]Mr.  McNuTT.  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  do  not. 

Just  have  a  seat,  Mr.  McNutt. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McNutt,  the  Chair  would  like  to  inform  you 
that  it  is  the  policy  of  this  committee  to  permit  counsel  to  advise  his 
client,  the  witness  here  on  the  stand,  of  his  constitutional  rights,  and 
only  on  the  question  of  his  constitutional  rights. 

I  would  like  to  say  to  counsel  that  we  hope  you  will  bear  with  us  in 
that  and  tliat  it  will  not  be  necessary  at  any  time  to  remind  you  of  that. 

Mr.  McNutt.  I  understand,  Mr.  Cliairman.  Of  course,  I  should 
like  to  make  a  request  to  be  permitted  to  cross-examine  witnesses. 

The  Chairman.  You  will  not  have  that  permission.  It  is  not  the 
policy  of  the  committee  to  permit  counsel  to  cross-examine  witnesses. 
You  will  only  have  the  right,  the  solemn  right,  to  advise  your  client, 
the  witness,  on  his  constitutional  rights.  Nothing  else.  You  are  no 
different  from  any  of  the  other  attorney's  who  have  appeared  before 
this  committee  this  year  in  the  many  hearings  that  we  have  had. 

Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address? 

Mr.  Warner.  My  name  is  Jack  L.  Warner,  1801  Angelo  Drive, 
Beverley  Hills,  Calif. 

Mr.  Strlpling.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  London,  Ontario,  Canada,  1892. 


8  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  you  are  here  before  the  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  in  response  to  a  subpena  served  upon  you  on 
September  29,  1947;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Wakner.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Warner.  In  charge  of  production  of  Warner  Bros,  studios  at 
Burbank,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  vice  president  of  Warner  Bros.  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  associated  with  the  motion- 
picture  industry? 

Mr.  Warner.  Approximately  forty-odd  years. 

Mr.  Wood.  I  didn't  get  that  last  statement. 

Mr.  Warner.  Forty-odd  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  ]\Ir.  Warner,  in  what  various  capacities  have  you 
been  associated  with  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  say  writer,  director,  producer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  was  the  corporation  known  as  Warner  Bros. 
first  founded? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  just  can't  remember  the  exact  date. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Approximately  when? 

]Mr.  Warner.  I  believe  it  was  1922 — or  between  1922  and  1926.  Be- 
fore tliat  it  was  a  copartnership  of  the  four  brothers. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  recall  how  many  people  you  employed  at  the 
time  the  corporation  was  first  founded  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  haven't  any  recollection.    No ;  I  don't  know. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  how  many  people  are  em- 
ployed at  the  present  time  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  say  approximately  25,000  throughout  the 
world. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Throughout  the  world. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  About  how  many  pictures  does  your  company  pro- 
duce a  year  ?    That  is,  on  an  average. 

Mr.  Warner.  At  present? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warner.  Twenty-four.  In  addition,  what  we  term  "short  sub- 
jects," and  we  now  have  a  news  release,  the  Warner-Pathe  News 
Release. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  you  say  20 

Mr.  Warner.  Twenty-four  full-length  pictures;  50  or  60  short  sub- 
jects ;  and  100  or  more  news  releases  a  year. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  give  us  the  figure  of — say,  for  any  time 
during  the  past  5  years — the  gross  income  of  Warner  Bros.? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  not  familiar  with  the  gross  income.  That  was 
not  my  end  of  the  business — other  than  reading  the  reports. 

INIr.  Stripling.  Is  Warner  Bros,  one  of  the  major  studios  in  Holly- 
wood ? 

Mr.  Warner.  One  of  the  large  studios.  I  don't  go  along  with  the 
word  "major." 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  it  be  one  of  the  four  largest? 

INIu.  Warner.  I  would  say  it  was  one  of  the  large  studios  in  Holly- 
wood. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  9 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  as  the  chairman  lias  stated,  the  purpose 
of  this  hearing  is  to  determine  tlie  extent  of  Communist  infiltration 
and  influence  in  the  motion-picture  industry. 

Since  you  have  been  in  Hollywood,  has  there  ever  been  a  period 
during  which  you  considered  that  the  Communists  had  infiltrated  into 
the  studios? 

Mr.  Warner.  Before  we  proceed,  if  it  is  proper,  I  would  like  to  read 
a  statement  that  I  have  prepared  into  the  record. 

Mv.  Stripling.  ]Mr.  Warner,  it  is  not  the  policy  of  this  committee 
to  permit  witnesses  to  read  statements.    However 

Mr.  Wood.  I  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  witness  be  permitted 
to  submit  his  statement. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  read  the  statement  in  Los  Angeles. 

The  Chairman.  It  was  the  same  statements 

Mr.  Warner.  I  read  the  statement  in  Los  Angeles. 

The  Chairman.  Is  this  the  same  statement  you  read  in  Los  Angeles  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Similar  to  a  degree,  more  or  less. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  just  see  the  statement,  please? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes. 

(The  paper  was  handed  to  the  chairman.) 

The  Chairman.  It  will  be  all  right  to  read  this  statement.  The  only 
reason  we  questioned  it  was  that  we  wanted  to  make  certain  that  it  was 
pertinent  to  the  inquiry. 

Mr.  AVarner.  Yes,  sir ;  it  is. 

The  Chairman.  And  also  will  you  read  it  into  the  microphone,  Mr. 
Warner. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  And  speak  just  a  little  louder. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

(STATEMENT  OE  JACK  L.  WARNER) 

It  is  a  privilege  to  appear  again  before  this  committee  to  help  as 
much  as  I  can  in  facilitating  its  work. 

I  am  happy  to  speak  openly  and  honestly  in  an  inquiry  which  has 
for  its  purpose  the  reaffirmation  of  American  ideals  and  democratic 
processes.  As  last  May,  when  I  appeared  before  a  subcommittee  of 
this  group  in  Los  Angeles,  my  testimony  is  based  on  personal  opinions, 
impressions,  and  beli/efs  created  by  the  things  I  have  heard,  read,  and 
seen.    It  is  given  freely  and  voluntarily. 

Our  American  way  of  life  is  under  attack  from  without  and  from 
within  our  national  borders.  I  believe  it  is  the  duty  of  each  loyal 
American  to  resist  those  attacks  and  defeat  them. 

Freedom  is  a  precious  thing.  It  requires  careful  nurturing,  protec- 
tion, and  encouragement.  It  has  flourished  under  the  guaranties  of 
our  American  Constitution  and  Bill  of  Rights  to  make  this  country  the 
ideal  of  all  men  who  honestly  wish  to  call  their  souls  their  own. 

I  believe  that  I,  as  an  individual,  and  our  company  as  an  organiza- 
tion of  American  citizens,  must  watch  always  for  threats  to  the  Ameri- 
can way  of  life.  History  teaches  the  lesson  that  liberties  are  won 
bitterly  and  may  be  lost  unwittingly. 

We  have  seen  recent  tragic  examples  of  national  and  personal  free- 
doms destroyed  by  dictator-trained  wrecking  crews.     The  advance 


10  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

guards  of  propagandists  nad  infiltrationists  were  scarcely  noticed  at 
lirst.  They  got  in  their  first  licks  quietly,  came  into  the  open  only 
when  they  were  ready  to  spring  the  trap.  Heedless  peoples  suddenly 
woke  up  to  find  themselves  slaves  to  dictatorships  imposed  by  skillful 
and  willful  groups. 

I  believe  the  first  line  of  defense  against  this  familiar  pattern  is 
an  enlightened  public.  People  aware  of  threats  to  their  freedom  can- 
not be  victimized  by  the  divide-and-conquer  policies  used  by  Hitler 
and  his  counterparts. 

It  is  my  firm  conviction  that  the  free  American  screen  has  taken  its 
rightful  place  with  the  free  American  press  in  the  first  line  of  defense. 

Ideological  termites  have  burrowed  into  many  American  industries, 
organizations,  and  societies.  Wherever  they  may  be,  I  say  let  us  dig 
them  out  and  get  rid  of  them.  My  brothers  and  I  will  be  happy  to 
subscribe  generously  to  a  pest-removal  fund.  We  are  willing  to  estab- 
lish such  a  fund  to  ship  to  Russia  the  people  who  don't  like  our 
American  system  of  government  and  prefer  the  communistic  system 
to  ours. 

That's  how  strongly  we  feel  about  the  subversives  who  want  to 
overthrow  our  free  American  system. 

If  there  are  Communists  in  our  industry,  or  any  other  industry, 
organization,  or  society  who  seek  to  undermine  our  free  institutions, 
let's  find  out  about  it  and  know  who  they  are.  Let  the  record  be 
spread  clear,  for  all  to  read  and  judge.  The  public  is  entitled  to  know 
the  facts.  And  the  motion-picture  industry  is  entitled  to  have  the 
public  know  the  facts. 

Our  comjDany  is  keenly  aware  of  its  responsibilities  to  keep  its  prod- 
uct free  from  subversive  poisons.  With  all  the  vision  at  my  command, 
I  scrutinize  the  planning  and  production  of  our  motion  pictures.  It 
is  my  firm  belief  that  there  is  not  a  Warner  Bros,  picture  that  can 
fairly  be  judged  to  be  hostile  to  our  country,  or  communistic  in  tone  or 
purpose. 

Many  charges,  including  the  fantasy  of  "White  House  pressure"  have 
been  leveled  at  our  wartime  production  Mission  to  Moscow.  In  my 
previous  appearance  before  members  of  this'  committee,  I  explained  the 
origin  and  purposes  of  Mission  to  Moscow. 

That  picture  was  made  when  our  country  was  fighting  for  its  exist- 
ence, with  Russia  as  one  of  our  allies.  It  was  made  to  fulfill  the  same 
wartime  purpose  for  which  we  made  such  other  pictures  as  Air  Force, 
This  Is  the  Arm}',  Objective  Burma,  Destination  Tokyo,  Action  in  the 
North  Atlantic,  and  a  great  many  more. 

If  making  Mission  to  Moscow  in  1912  was  a  subversive  activity,  then 
the  American  Liberty  ships  which  carried  food  and  guns  to  Russian 
allies  and  the  American  naval  vessels  which  convoyed  them  were 
likewise  engaged  in  subversive  activities.  The  picture  was  made  only 
to  help  a  desperate  war  effort  and  not  for  posterity. 

The  Warner  Bros,  interest  in  the  preservation  of  the  American  way 
of  life  is  no  new  thing  with  our  company.  Ever  since  we  began  mak- 
ing motion  pictures  we  have  fostered  American  ideals  and  done  what 
we  could  to  protect  them. 

Not  content  with  merely  warning  against  dangers  to  our  free  sys- 
tem, Warner  Bros,  has  practiced  a  policy  of  positive  Americanism. 
We  have  gone,  and  will  continue  to  go,  to  all  ]:)ossible  lengths  to  iterate 
and  reiterate  the  realities  and  advantages  of  America. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  11 

Good  American  common  sense  is  the  determining  factor  in  judging 
motion-picture  scripts  before  they  are  put  in  production  and  motion- 
picture  scenes  after  they  are  photographed.  We  rely  upon  a  deep- 
rooted,  pervading  respect  for  our  country's  principles. 

One  of  those  American  principles  is  the  right  to  gripe  and  criticize 
in  an  effort  to  improve.  That  right  to  gripe  is  not  enjoyed  under 
communistic  dictatorships.  To  surrender  that  privilege  under  pres- 
sure would  betray  our  American  standards. 

Freedom!  of  expression,  however,  does  not,  under  our  Constitution 
and  laws,  include  a  license  to  destroy. 

We  believe  positive  methods  offer  the  best  defense  against  possible 
subversive  activities.  In  my  previous  testimony  before  a  subcom- 
niittee  of  this  committee,  I  stated  certain  people  whom  we  let  go  were 
subsequently  hired  by  other  studios. 

By  no  stretch  of  the  imagination  can  that  be  construed  as  question- 
ing the  loyalty  of  other  employers.  The  producers  who  hired  the 
men  we  discharged  are  good  Americans.  There  is  no  positive  guide 
to  determine  whether  or  not  a  person  is  a  Communist ;  and  the  laws  of 
our  land,  which  are  in  the  hands  of  you  gentlemen,  offer  no  clean-cut 
definition  on  that  point. 

We  can't  fight  dictatorships  by  borrowing  dictatorial  methods. 
Nor  can  we  defend  freedom  by  curtailing  liberties,  but  we  can  attack 
with  a  free  press  and  a  free  screen. 

Subversive  germs  breed  in  dark  corners.  Let's  get  light  into  those 
corners.  That,  I  believe,  is  the  purpose  of  this  hearing  and  I  am 
happy  to  have  had  the  opportunity  to  testify. 

Thank  you. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  getting  back  to  my  original  ques- 
tion  

Mr.  Warner.  Do  you  want  this  statement  for  the  record? 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record,  Mr.  Chair- 
man ? 

The  Chairman.  So  ordered.^ 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  since  you  have  been  in  Hollywood,  has 
there  ever  been  a  period  during  which  you  considered  that  the  Com- 
munists or  the  Fascists  had  infiltrated  into  the  studios  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  As  I  said  in  Los  Angeles  on  May  16,  I  believe — 15, 
rather — I  have  never  seen  a  Communist,  and  I  wouldn't  know  one  if 
I  saw  one. 

With  reference  to  Fascists.  I  have  seen  them.  Not  in  America.  I 
mean  in  Europe.  Therefore,  I  don't  know  if  Fascists  have  worked 
in  the  studios — or  Communists,  rather — or  both. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  have  here  before  me,  Mr.  Warner,  y.our  testimony, 
wherein  the  following  question  was  asked :  ^ 

Mr.  Stripling,  air.  Warner,  since  you  have  been  in  Hollywood  has  there  ever 
been  a  period  during  which  you  considered  that  the  Communists  had  infiltrated 
into  your  studio? 

Air.  Warner.  Yes.    Do  you  mean  by  huge  numbers,  or  what? 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  any  degree. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes  ;  there  has  been  a  period. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  was  that? 


^  See  appendix,  p.  52.'?,  for  statement  exhibit  l.» 

2  See  appeuflix,   p.   523.   for  testimony  of  Jack  L.   Warner  before  the  Subcommittee  on 
Un-American  Activities,  May  15,  1947,  in  Hollywood,  Calif. 


12  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Wakner.  Chiefly  I  would  say  starting  in  about  193G  or  1937.  That  is  the 
first  time  I  started  to  notice  that  type  of  writing  coming  into  our  scenarios. 
It  is  being  put  into  scripts  to  this  day  in  one  form  or  another. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  your  studio? 

Mr.  Warner.  In  our  studio  and  every  studio  ;  yes.     *     *     * 

Now,  that  is  your  testimony,  Mr.  Warner  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes;  that  wasn't  your  question.  You  asked  nie  if 
there  were  any  Communists  in  the  industry.  If  you  refer  directly  to 
our  studio,  I  would  like  to  answer  along  the  same  lines  I  attempted  to 
answer  in  Los  Angeles. 

The  Chairman.  What  is  your  answer? 

Mr.  Warner.  The  same  as  that. 

The  Chairman.  What  is  that  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  The  answer  is  that  there  are  people  with  un-Ameri- 
.can  leanings  who  have  been  writing — mostly  in  the  writing  division — 
that  have  been  writing  types  of — what  I  personally  term  un-Ameri- 
can principles,  for  the  want  of  a  better  word. 

The  Chairman.  You  admit  that  there  are,  or  were.  Communists, 
or  Communist  sympathizers,  in  your  own  industry  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  don't  know  about  Communist  sympathizers.  I 
know  they  are  un-American  in  their  methods. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  his  studio,  he  means. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  mean  un-American  because  they  are  Com- 
munists or  un-American  because  they  are  Fascists  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  No;  un-American  because  they  endeavor  to  put  sev- 
eral things  into  scripts  that,  in  my  opinion,  are  un-American,  and  it 
is  my  business  to  see  that  it  doesn't  get  in.  If  it  eventually  does  creep 
in,  I  cut  it  out. 

The  CiixViR3iAN.  There  is  little  difference  whether  a  person  is  a  Com- 
munist or  a  Fascist  if  he  is  un-American;  isn't  that  true? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  not  qualified  to  answer. 

The  Chairman.  But  you  admit  there  are  some  people  in  your  studio 
that  are  un-American? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes ;  I  admit  that. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling. 

INIr.  Warner.  I  admit  it  through  the  process  which  I  have  just 
stated,  in  the  method  of  writing  script.  Their  other  activities  I  know 
nothing  about. 

Mr.  Stripling.  As  I  understand  it,  Mr.  Warner,  the  testimony  that 
you  gave  in  Los  Angeles  was  to  the  effect  that  you  detected  within 
your  studio  writers  who  were  attempting  to  inject  Communist  prop- 
aganda into  pictures.  Your  testimony  was  to  the  effect  that  they 
were  not  successful  in  that  effort  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  gave  us  the  names  of  a  number  of  writers  whom 
you  dismissed  for  one  reason  or  other  because  you  felt  they  were  at- 
tempting to  inject  communism  or  Communist  propaganda  into  the 
pictures. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  say  un-American  propaganda.  If  you  want  to  use 
the  word  "Communist"  naturally  you  have  that  prerogative. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  give  the  committee  the  names  of  the 
writers  who  were  employed  in  your  studio  whom  you  considered  were 
attempting  to  place  Communist  propaganda  in  motion  pictures? 


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Mr.  Warner.  As  I  said,  again  referring  to  my  statement,  or  testi- 
mony, endeavoring  to  put  in  Communist  propaganda,  as  I  said  in  my 
statement ■ 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  would  you  prefer  that  we  proceed  this 
way,  I  will  read  your  testimony  and  you  can  confirm  it  or  deny  it, 
as  you  see  fit  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  following  question  was  asked  you : 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  that  the  principal  mediuin,  the  writers,  through  which  the 
Communists  have  sought  to  inject  their  Communist  propaganda  into  fihns? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes;  I  would  say  95  percent. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Ninety-five  percent  is  through  the  writers? 

Mv.  Warner.  This  is  my  own  personal  opinion. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  say  at  the  present  time  to  your  knowledge  there  are  no 
Connnunist  writers  in  your  studio? 

Mr.  Warnb^;.  That  is  correct,  sir.  I  did  not  finish  telling  you  how  we  released 
them  or  got  rid  of  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Go  right  ahead. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  think  it  is  worth  finishing.  Anyone  whom  I  thought  was  a 
Communist,  or  read  in  tlie  papers  that  he  was,  I  dismissed  at  the  expiration  of  his 
contract.  If  it  was  for  an  individual  picture  and  we  had  no  obligations,  we 
could  let  him  go.  In  one  fellow's  case  I  had  to  hold  onto  him  because  we  were 
dropping  them  too  rapidly,  and  it  was  too  apparent.  So  we  held  onto  him.  I 
held  him  until  the  last  2  weeks,  and  I  could  not  stand  him  any  longer.  He  was 
contributing  nothing  by  holding  meetings  in  the  offices. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  was  his  name? 

Mr.  Warner.  Kahn ;  Gordon  Kahn. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Why  did  you  say  it  was  too  apparent? 

Mr.  Warner.  By  letting  them  all  go  at  oitce,  in  one  day.  When  I  say  "all" 
there  were  only  probably  a  half  dozen  at  tops.     There  weren't  so  many. 

Mr.  Stripling.  But  they  were  definitely  entrenched  in  your  studio? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes. 

Now,  down  to  that  point  that  is  the  testimony  you  gave ;  is  it  not  ? 
Mr.  Warner.  Yes ;  it  is. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  w^ant  to  point  out  that  this  is 
sworn  testimony  which  I  am  reading. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  since  gotten  them  out? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes.  If  there  is  anyone  else  in  there  I  don't  know  who  he  is. 
There  may  be  some  in  other  places.     Mr.  Matthews  is  checking  up  very  rigidly. 

The  Mr.  Matthews  referred  to  here  is  Mr.  Blaney  Matthews;  is  that 
right  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  occupies  the  position  of  plant 

Mr.  Warner.  Plant  personnel. 
Mr.  Stripling  (continuing)  : 

Mr.  Thomas.  Do  you  want  to  get  the  names  of  the  other  writer.'^? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes;  I  would  like  to  have  those  from  the  record,  either  from 
you  or  Mr.  Matthews. 

Mr.  Warner.  When  I  say  those  people  are  Communists,  as  I  said  b^^fore,  it  is 
from  hearsay.     It  was  from  printed  forms  I  read  in  the  Hollywood  Reporter. 

Mr.  Thomas.  But  you  got  enough  information  to  let  them  go? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  could  tell  in  their  writings  and  method  of  pi'esentation  of 
screen  plays. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  mean  not  calling  them  Communists? 

Mr.  Warner.  They  were  un-American. 

Mr.  Stripling.  For  one  reason  or  another  you  ob.lected  to  the  lines  they  were 
attempting  to  put  in  your  scripts? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes. 

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Mr.  Stripling.  And  you  let  these  six  people  go.     Can  you  name  the  six? 

Mr.  Warneu.  Yes;  I  think  I  can.     I  wish  you  would  bear  with  me. 

I\Ir.  Thomas.  That  is  all  right. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  have  heard  these  people  stand  around  and  ridicule  and  rib 
the  committee,  your  full  committee:  "They  aren't  looking  for  Fascists;  they  are 
only  looking  for  Communists.  They  have  the  same  routine ;  to  belittle  the  other 
fellow  and  scheme  about  it." 

]Mr.  Thomas.  If  you  have  any  names  we  would  like  to  have  them. 

Mr.  Warner.  Here  are  the  names  of  people  who  in  my  opinion  wrote  for  the 
screen  and  tried  to  inject  these  ideas,  and  I  personally  removed  them — according 
to  my  best  judgment  or  any  of  my  executives  working  with  me.  Whether  or  not 
they  are  Communists  I  don't  know,  but  some  of  them  are,  according  to  what  I 
have  read  and  heard. 

The  first  one  is  Alvah  Bessie.  Then  Gordon  Kahn.  He  is  in  charge  of  editing 
the  little  journal  of  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild.  He  is  now  down  in  Mexico 
trying  to  write  a  story  about  a  picture  we  were  producing  down  there.  I  gave 
instructions  all  along  the  line  not  to  have  him  in  there,  but  he  gets  in.  The  day  I 
let  him  go  he  was  right  on  the  plane  for  Mexico.  He  is  writing  a  story  for  Holiday 
magazine,  one  of  the  Curtis  Publisliing  Co.'s  magazines.  I  tried  through  the 
New  York  office  to  tell  them  the  fellow  was  "off  the  beam"  and  should  not  accept 
his  material.  I  was  told,  "You  are  not  going  to  interfere  with  the  right  of  free 
speech  and  freedom  of  the  press."  I  got  tJie  usual  run-down  of  a  publisher.  That 
is  what  they  told  my  man.  I  tried  to  have  the  story  stopped  for  this  particular 
paper,  but  he  is  writing  it.  In  fact,  we  were  chastised  for  interfering  with  their 
business,  so  I  got  off  of  that. 

Guy  Endore,  Howard  Koch,  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  Emmett  Lavery,  John  Howard 
Law.son,  Albert  Maltz,  Robert  Rosson,  Erwin  Shaw,  Dalton  Trumbo,  John  Wexley. 
You  know  these  names. 

Mr.  Thomas.  That  is  a  very  familiar  list. 

INIr.  Warner.  Julius  and  Philip  Epstein,  twins. 

Mr.  Thomas.  What  are  they  doing? 

Mr.  Warnek.  They  are  at  IM-G-M.  I  will  give  you  my  theory  of  what  happened 
to  these  fellows  when  I  finish. 

Mr.  Thomas.  All  right. 

Mr.  W^^rner.  Sheridan  Gibney,  Clifford  Odets.     That  is  all  of  my  list. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  all  of  these  writers  that  you  named  employed  in  your 
studio  at  one  time  or  another? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes ;  they  were. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  give  us  the  names  of  some  of  the  pictures  in  which 
they  injected  their  lines  or  propaganda? 

l\Ir.  Warner.  I  would  rather  correct  that,  if  you  don't  mind. 

Mr.  Stripling.  All  right. 

Mr.  Warner.  They  endeavor  to  inject  it.  Whatever  I  could  do  about  it — I 
took  it  out. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Tell  us  some  of  the  pictures  in  which  they  endeavored  to  do  that. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  As  I  understand  it,  this  was  all  sworn  testimony  in 
executive  session ;  is  that  correct  ? 
Mr,  Stripling.  That  is  right,  sir. 
The  testimony  continued : 

Mr.  Warner.  Do  you  want  the  names? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Identify  the  films. 

Mr.  Warnfjl  Alvah  Bessie,  The  Very  Thought  of  You.  Gordon  Kahn,  Her 
Kind  of  Man.  I  might  inject  there  for  a  moment,  the  majority  of  those  writers, 
some  of  them  wrote  for  as  high  as  6,  8,  or  10  months,  and  never  delivered  anything. 
What  they  were  doing  was  taking  your  money  and  supposedly  writing  your 
scripts  and  trying  to  get  these  doctrines  into  the  films,  working  for  the  party,  or 
whatever  the  term  is.    The  strange  thing  is  very  few  of  these  fellows  deliver. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  that  right? 

Mr.  Warner.  Not  only  in  our  studios,  but  in  any  of  the  studios.  I  can  speak 
authoritatively  on  that.  These  are  the  credits  that  these  people  have.  They 
are  always  in  every  one  of  them.    Howard  Koch,  In  Our  Time.    I  might  explain 


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how  some  of  these  stories  come  out.  Sometimes  four  or  five  of  these  writers  con- 
tribute. These  fellows  contribute  and  then  three  other  good  writers  are  doing 
the  most  of  it,  but  they  contribute  some  things  and  they  get  the  screen  credit. 
I  should  have  had  more  information  as  to  who  collaborated  with  them.  They 
didn't  do  anything  in  the  western  pictures.  As  far  as  Kocli  is  concerned,  he  was 
on  20  scripts,  but  he  never  got  anywhere  because  he  always  started  out  with  big 
messages  and  I  used  to  take  them  out.  This  fellow  was  on  contract  and  I 
couldn't  let  him  go.  He  is  now  working  for  Samuel  Goldwyn.  I  can't  remember 
the  name  of  the  picture  he  is  working  on. 

Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  was  on  several  pictures.  He  didn't  put  any  message  in  The 
Kokomo  Kid.  Or  Emmett  Lavery,  he  has  no  credits.  We  throw  his  stuff  in  all 
the  way  and  pile  it  up. 

John  Howard  Lawson,  Action  in  the  North  Atlantic. 

Albert  Maltz  in  Pride  of  the  Marines. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  he  get  much  into  Pride  of  the  Marines? 

Mr.  Warner.  No ;  in  my  opinion  he  didn't  get  in  anything  because  everything 
they  endeavor  to  write  in,  if  the;y  photographed  it,  I  cut  it  out.  I  ran  those 
films  myself.  There  is  one  little  thing. where  the  fellow  on  the  train  said,  "My 
name  is  Jones,  so  I  can't  get  a  .iob."  It  was  this  kid  named  Diamond,  a  Jewish 
boy,  in  the  marines,  a  hero  at  Guadalcanal.  In  fact,  I  had  a  couple  of  boys  run 
the  picture  3  or  4  days  ago  and  I  read  it.  Dr.  John  Leach  said  something  about 
it,  but  there  is  nothing  to  it.     If  there  is,  I  don't  know  where  it  is. 

I  have  had  experiences  from  1916  or  1917.  I  made  My  Four  Years  in  Germany 
and  I  produced  that  in  New  York  right  during  the  First  World  War.  I  can  look  at 
a  mirror  and  see  three  faces.  You  can  see  anything  you  want  to  see  and  you  can 
write  anything  you  want  to,  but  there  is  nothing  in  my  pictures  that  I  cannot 
qualify  being  there,  with  the  exception  that  it  might  have  gotten  by  me,  because 
you  can't  be  superhuman.  Some  of  these  lines  have  innuendos  and  double  mean- 
ings, and  things  like  that,  and  you  have  to  take  8  or  10  Harvard  law  courses  to 
find  out  what  they  mean. 

Mr.  Stripling.  They  are  very  subtle. 

Mr.  Warner.  Exceedingly  so.  Rossen,  I  gave  him  a  credit  for  They  Won't 
Forget  and  Dust  Be  My  Destiny. 

Erwin  Shaw,  The  Hard  Way. 

Dalton  Trumbo  worked  in  our  place  in  1935  and  1936.  He  had  credit  for  The 
Kid  From  Kokomo,  and  so  has  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.  It  gives  you  an  idea  ;  they  work 
in  pairs.  All  he  is  credited  with  is  The  Road  Gang.  I  can't  remember  that.  That 
was  12  years  ago. 

John  Wexley  had  a  picture  called  City  for  Conquest  in  1940.  Some  of  these 
pictures  I  have  called  off  were  produced  during  the  war.  Naturally,  they  were 
pictures  aimed  at  aiding  the  war  effort.  They  were  realistic.  Take  Action  in  the 
North  Atlantic,  which  was  produced  for  the  merchant  marine  because  at  the  time 
they  could  not  get  proper  enlistments  and  all  that.  I  made  this  film.  We  did  not 
pull  any  punches.  It  was  a  good,  hard  film  of  the  real  life  of  the  merchant  marine. 
I  don't  know  whether  you  saw  it  or  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warnke.  Naturally,  John  Howard  Lawson  tried  to  swing  a  lot  of  things  in 
there,  but  to  my  knowledge  there  wasn't  anything. 

Mr.  Stripling.  John  Howard  Lawson  did  try  to  put  stuff  in? 

Mr.  WARNEK._Yes  ;  I  would  say  he  did  in  one  form  or  another. 

Mr.  Stripling.  All  right,  are  you  through  with  the  list? 

Mr.  Warnek.  No ;  the  Epstein  brothers  did  very  good  work  at  one  time,  but 
they  fell  off. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  they  do  any  part  of  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  Warner.  Their  name  is  not  on  here  as  credit  for  that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Who  did  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  Warner.  Howard  Koch,  1943. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  he  do  any  part  of  Edge  of  Darkness? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  just  a  moment,  please.  Robert  Rosson  did  that  in  1942.  That 
was  a  war  subject,  too. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  did  not  do  North  Star,  did  you? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  we  did  not. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  did  not  do  Song  of  Russia? 

Mr.  Warner.  No ;  we  did  not.  The  Epstein  brothers  worked  on  a  picture  called 
Animal  Kingdom.  As  I  recall,  tnat  was  aimed  at  the  capitalistic  system — not 
exactly,  but  the  rich  man  is  always  the  villain.    Of  course,  those  fellows  getting 


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two  or  three  thousand  dollars  a  week  aren't  rich  men.  I  don't  know  what  you 
would  call  them.  Both  of  those  fellows  work  together.  They  are  never  separated. 
The  rest  of  them  are  a  lot  of  comedies :  Yankee  Doodle  Dandy,  the  Man  Who 
Came  to  Dinner,  Arsenic  and  Old  Lace,  Strawberry  Blonde,  Four  Mothers — all  of 
those  pictures  are  comedies  and  there  is  no  taint  of  communism  in  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  do  you  desire  me  to  proceed  in  this 
manner,  that  is,  reading  the  testimony  in  directly,  or  do  j'oii  wish  me  to 
proceed  in  question-and-answer  form  ? 

The  Chairman.  We  would  like  to  know  from  Mr.  Warner  at  this 
point  whether  he  still  believes  as  he  did  when  he  testified  in  California 
on  May  15, 1  think  it  was,  the  testimony  of  which  was  just  read  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  I  do,  with  one  exception,  and  that  is  referring  to 
the  Curtis  Publishing  Co.  I  didn't  elaborate  too  much  as  I  have 
formed  sort  of  a  habit  of  being  very  curt  in  my  speech,  having  to  talk 
all  day  in  my  particular  business,  so  I  didn't  go  into  too  much  detail 
about  that. 

I  meant  this :  That  the  Curtis  Publishing  Co.  by  refusing — at  least  to 
iinybody  from  our  company — to  publish  this  Gordon  Kahn's  article, 
good  or  bad,  whatever  it  was,  I  don't  know,  proves  decisively  that  the 
American  way  of  life,  free  speech  and  free  press,  is  very,  very  important 
to  retain  and  to  never  let  it  go.  If  anyone  could  influence  Curtis  Pub- 
lishing Co.  they  could  influence  anybodv.  Tlierefore,  I  believe — I  pay 
my  deep  respects  to  the  Curtis  Publishing  Co.  for  their  American  stand 
on  free  press  and  free  speech. 

Tlie  Chairman.  On  all  those  other  names  you  would  make  the  same 
statement  in  relation  to  them  today  as  you  did  on  May  15  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  with  the  exception  that  I  have  looked  up  one 
or  two  of  the  men ;  it  has  been  so  far  back.  I  was  naturally  carried 
away  at  the  time  with  this  testimony  being  taken.  I  was  rather  emo- 
tional, being  111  a  very  emotional  business,  to  a  degree.  There  are  sev- 
eral names  here,  one  or  two  that  I  mentioned  that  I  haven't  any  recol- 
lection of  at  this  time,  after  careful  investigation,  having  written  any 
subversive  elements. 

The  Chairman.  You  better  name  them. 

Mr.  Warner.  Gu>  Endore — it  has  been  so  long  ago. 

The  Chairman.  Then  you  would  take  him  off  the  list? 

The  Witness.  Yes,  sir.  Sheridan  Gibney.  As  I  stated,  I  hope 
fully  here,  I  have  referred  to  Julius  and  Philip  Epstein  in  this  one 
particular  picture.  The  rest  of  the  time  they  were  always  on  very 
good  American  films  and  there  is  very  little  can  be  said  about  them. 
As  I  said,  they  do  it  in  a  joking  way.  The  rich  man  is  alwaysj  the 
villain,  which  is  as  old  as  the  world  itself.  Ever  since  one  man  had 
$1  and  the  other  fellow  had  another  dollar  there  has  always  been 
that  envy  between  man  and  man. 

Outside  of  that,  I  would  say  these  people  whom  I  have  mentioned 
have  not  written  Communist  cloctrines,  or  endeavored  to  put  in  Com- 
munist stories. 

As  I  explained  at  our  meeting  in  Los  Angeles,  my  understanding 
of  the  Communists  or  their  doctrines  is  that  they  are  a  nation  or  a 
country  or  a  party  or  a  sect,  who  endeavor  to  overthrow  a  country 
or  a  government  by  violence  and  force.  That  I  have  never  seen  in 
an  American  motion  picture,  not  only  ours,  but  anybody  else's. 

The  Chairman.  They  would  not  be  that  foolish,  would  they? 


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Mr.  Warner,  I  can't  answer  for  them.  I  only  speak  from  my  own 
actual  experiences  and  my  relations  with  every  man.  I  find  there 
has  been  very  little  of  it — remove  that,  if  you  please.  I  find  these 
people  have  not  attacked  the  Government  with  violence  and  over- 
throwing. 

The  Chairman.  Don't  you  think  it  would  be  very  foolish  for  a 
Communist  or  a  Communist  sympathizer  to  attempt  to  write  a  script 
advocating  the  OA^erthrow  of  the  Government  by  force  or  violence? 

Mr.  Warner.  Do  you  wish  me  to  answer  that  as  a  motion-picture 
executive  or  as  an  American  citizen  ? 

The  Chairman.  Either  one,  it  makes  no  difference,  you  are  both. 

Mr.  Warner.  It  would  not  only  be  foolish,  it  would  be  something 
they  could  not  get  away  with  in  the  American  motion-picture  industry 
in  California,  or  anywhere  else. 

The  Chairman.  Exactly.  So  what  would  they  do?  They  would 
put  in  slanted  lines  wherever  they  could  and  that  is  what  you  have 
been  trying  to  keep  out? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  is  correct. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  why  you  have  been  doing  exactly  the  same 
thing  in  your  business  that  we  have  been  attempting  to  do  in  ours  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  is  correct. 

The  Chairman.  You  have  detected  these  slanted  lines,  lines  that 
Communists  or  un-Americans,  as  you  call  them,  would  try  to  put  in? 

Mr,  Warner,  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  And  because  of  that  you  have  discharged  a  number 
of  employees;  isn't  that  true? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  wouldn't  use  the  word  "discharged."  I  have  had 
them  fulfill  their  legal  obligations  and  then  didn't  renew  their  options, 
or  whatever  you  would  call  it. 

The  Chairman.  But  you  did  not  rehire  them  ? 

]\Ir.  Warner.  I  did  not  rehire  them ;  that  is  correct. 

The  Chairman.  Does  any  other  member  of  the  committee  have  any 
questions  to  ask  of  Mr.  Warner  at  this  point  ? 

Mr.  Vail.  Yes,  sir,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Warner,  I  gathered  from  Mr.  McNutt's  opening 
statement  that  there  is  an  Association  of  Motion  Picture  Producers 
in  California.     Is  your  own  firm  a  member  of  that  association? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir;  the  Motion  Picture  Producers  Association 
is  the  name  of  it. 

Mr.  Vail.  Are  you  an  officer  of  the  association  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  not ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Vail.  In  your  testimony,  you  stated  certain  of  your  employees 
were  discharged  on  suspicion,  apparently,  of  being  Communists  and 
they  were  promptly  hired  by  your  competitors.  Did  I  understand 
you  correctly? 

iSIr.  Warner.  Some  of  them  were;  yes,  sir;  that  is  correct. 

Mr.  Vail.  What  is  the  purpose  of  the  association? 

Mr.  Warner.  The  purpose  of  the  association  has  nothing  wha|:ever 
to  do  with  the  hiring  or  firing  or  making  of  any  terms  of  business 
contracts.  The  business  is  the  motion-picture  industry  and  the  pro- 
duction field  is  very  highly  competitive.  The  association  has  nothing 
whasoever  to  do  with  whom  we  eniraee. 


18  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

I  would  call  it  the  sort  of  an  organization  where  we  handle  mutual 
affairs  as  to  business  in  general,  civic  matters,  and  things  of  that  na- 
ture that  happen  in  Los  Angeles  and  in  the  industry  in  general. 

Mr.  Vail.  Does  the  association  comprise  all  the  important  pro- 
ducers ? 

Mr.  Warner.  It  comprises  all  types  of  producers. 

Mr.  Vail.  Is  it  all-inclusive?     Does  it  include  all  the  producers? 

Mr.  Warner.  No;  it  does  not.  There  is  another  association  that 
is  headed  by  Donald  Nelson,  the  Society  of  Independent  American 
Motion  Picture  Producers;  I  think  that  is  the  title,  which  has  many 
more  members. 

Mr.  Vail.  Wouldn't  such  an  association  provide  a  splendid  piece  of 
machinery  for  distribution  of  information  between  producers  as  to 
the  type  of  individuals  that  are  employed  by  the  industry  and  who  are 
concerned  with  subversive  activities? 

Mr.  Warner.  Of  course,  that  has  never  been  brought  up  in  the 
association  in  any  manner,  shape,  or  form,  by  word  or  written  form, 
to  my  knowledge.  I  am  rather  active  in  the  association.  Of  course, 
I  don't  believe  it  would  be  legal  in  my  opinion — speaking  only  per- 
sonally— to  have  the  association  or  any  men  band  together  to  obstruct 
the  employment  of  any  other  man. 

I  don't  believe  the  association  would  have  anything  whatsoever  to 
do  with  that  type  of  operation.  I  would  not  be  a  party  to  it  and 
neither  would  any  of  the  other  men,  from  my  knowledge  of  them. 

Mr.  Vail.  Since  we  recognize  the  fact  that  motion  pictures  repre- 
sent a  forceful  vehicle  for  the  distribution  of  subversive  information 
it  would  seem  to  me  that  would  be  a  very  important  bit  of  business  for 
your  association.  In  other  words,  the  association  has  a  very  grave 
responsibility,  it  seems  to  me :  To  disseminate  knowledge  and  infor- 
mation to  the  American  people  that  will  not  distort  the  viewpoint 
of  the  people  who  see  your  pictures.     So  wouldn't  that  follow? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  sounds  rather  logical,  but  it  doesn't  hold  water. 
It  doesn't  happen,  and  I  can't  see- how  it  ever  will  happen  unless  there 
are  the  proper  laws  created  by  you  gentlemen  in  order  to  make  a  thing 
like  that  legal,  possible,  active,  and  effectual.  I  wouldn't  be  a  party 
with  anyone  in  an  association,  especially  where  you  would  be  liable 
for  having  a  fellow's  livelihood  impaired:  I  wouldn't  want  to  do 
that. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Warner,  would  you  be  deeply  concerned  with  the 
assurance  of  a  livelihood  to  the  individual  who  is  endeavoring  to 
destroy  this  form  of  government  by  force  of  arms,  or  violence? 

Mr.  Warner.  Would  I  personally? 

Mr.  Vail.  Or  your  association. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  couldn't  hear  you  ^ery  well.  Would  you  repeat 
that? 

Mr.  Vail.  Would  you  be  deeply  interested  in  providing  a  livelihood 
for  the  individual  who  was  attempting  by  subversive  methods  to  de- 
stroy this  form  of  government? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  cannot,  at  any  time,  during  this  hearing,  speak  for 
anyone  but  myself  in  my  business  capacity  and  as  an  American  citi- 
zen. Therefore,  as  for  myself,  definitely  I  am  against  any  type  of 
man  creating,  not  only  in  motion  pictures,  but  in  any  other  enter- 
prise, anything  that  would  endeavor  in  any  form,  shape,  or  manner 
to  overthrow  the  democracv  of  the  United  States  of  America. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  19 

I  am  absolutely  against  them  and  I  would  not  engage  them  per- 
sonally. I  have  said  that  before,  and  I  will  always  say  that.  There 
is  no  place  for  them  in  the  American  way  of  life ;  I  don't  care  whether 
it  is  motion  pictures,  in  Grand  Rapids  where  they  make  furniture, 
or  in  Detroit  where  they  make  motorcars.  I  am  very  emphatic  about 
that. 

I  feel  very  proud  to  be  an  American.  I  spent  three-odd  months  in 
Europe,  and  I  saw  the  consequences  of  people  who  killed  laws,  who 
destroyed  freedom  of  enterprise,  individual  enterprise,  private  enter- 
prise. I  saw  it  in  Europe,  I  saw  it  during  the  war,  I  saw  it  in  Italy, 
France ;  and  to  a  degree  in  England. 

The  CiTAiKMAN.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Vail.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have. 

The  Chairmajc.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Just  one  question,  Mr.  Warner. 

You  indicate  Congress  hasn't  said  what  a  Communist  is.  You  know, 
of  course,  this  committee  has  before  it  a  resolution  outlawing  Com- 
munists and  also  another  resolution  defining  Communists.  Would 
you  advocate  that  the  Congress  adopt  either  of  these  resolutions  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  This  is  the  first  I  knew  that  there  was  a  resolution. 
I  never  heard  of  it.  It  was  probably  while  I  was  away.  I  would 
advocate  it  providing  it  did  not  take  away  the  rights  of  a  free  citizen, 
a  good  American  to  make  a  livelihood,  and  also  that  it  would  not 
interfere  with  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States,  as  well  as  the 
Bill  of  Rights. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  know,  during  Hitler's  regime  they  passed  a 
law  in  Germany  outlawing  communism  and  the  Communists  went  to 
jail.     Would  you  advocate  the  same  thing  here  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  not  an  authority  on  Hitler's  maneuvers  and, 
what  is  more,  I  don't  believe  I  want  to  be — I  am  positive  I  don't  want 
to  be,  having  seen  the  destruction  of  those  people.  It  is  a  very  sad 
thing.  Everyone  in  this  room  and  everyone  in  the  world  knows  the 
consequences  of  that  type  of  law. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Canada  has  a  similar  law;  also  Panama,  and  many 
South  American  countries.     Thank  you  very  much. 

The  Chairman.  On  that  question,  following  up  Mr.  McDowell,  in 
view  of  the  facts  that  this  bill  is  before  us  to  outlaw  the  Communist 
Party  and  that  laws  have  been  passed  outlawing  the  Communist  Party 
in  other  nations  in  this  hemisphere,  would  you  advocate  that  we  outlaw 
the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Warner.  By  the  proper  legal  procedures. 

The  Chairman.  If  we  passed  a  law  that  would  be  a  proper  legal 
procedure,  wouldn't  it? 

Mr.  Warner.  I,  as  an  individual  citizen,  naturally  am  in  favor  of 
anything  that  is  good  for  all  Americans. 

The  Chairman.  Are  you  in  favor  of  outlawing  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Warner.  You  mean  from  the  ballot? 

The  Chairman.  Yes ;  making  it  an  illegal  organization. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  in  favor  of  making  it  an  illegal  organization. 

The  Chairman.  You  are? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon. 


20  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Nixon,  Mr.  Warner,  you  stated  we  can't  fight  dictatorships  by 
borrowing  dictatorial  methods.  As  I  understand  your  observation 
there,  it  is  that  if  we  adopt  the  same  methods  the  dictatorships  adopted 
in  Germany  and  Italy,  and  which  the  Communist  dictatorships  in 
Russia  and  other  Communist-dominated  countries  are  adopting,  if  we 
adopt  those  methods  in  fighting  communism  in  the  United  States  we 
will  be  no  better  than  they  are  from  the  standpoint  of  so-called  free- 
dom of  expression,  which  you  advocated  very  strongly  in  your  state- 
ment ? 

Mr.  Warner.  By  that  I  mean  we  learn  the  folly  of  the  type  of  laws 
they  adopted.  I  am  not  qualified  to  say  just  what  laws  we  should 
have,  but  we  certainly  do  not  want  to  go  along  in  their  pattern. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  think  it  is  essential  we  maintain  in  America  a 
free  press,  free  speech,  and  a  free  screen  as  the  best  safeguards  against 
dictatorship  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Definitely;  because  if  we  do  not — and  I  speak  for 
myself  as  an  American,  we  will  have  a  repetition  of  what  they  had 
in  the  destroyed  countries  abroad.  They  had  laws  which  completely 
closed  everything. 

Mr.  Nixon.   Such  as  Germany  and  Italy? 

Mr.  Warner.  Germany  and  Italy  and  when  the  Germans  overran 
these  other  countries  everything  was  closed.  There  was  not  a  radio 
that  wasn't  planted;  the  words  were  put  into  the  narrator's  mouth. 
There  wasn't  any  free  press;  there  were  not  any  movies  shown,  only 
as  to  the  destruction  of  man  by  the  Nazis.  I  saw  pictures  made  before 
the  war  that  forecast  everything  that  happened  during  the  war. 
That  is,  I  saw  these  pictures  in  Europe. 

Mr.  NixoN.  Have  you  had  occasion  during  the  past  few  years  to 
see  any  Russian  motion  pictures? 

Mr.  Warner.  The  only  Russian  picture  I  ever  saw  was  an  old 
silent  film  about  a  battleship — Potempkin — or  some  name  like  tliat. 
They  put  words  into  the  actors'  mouths ;  they  made  it  a  talking  film. 
That  is  the  only  one  I  ever  saw. 

Mr.  NixoN,  From  your  knowledge  and  experience,  would  you  say 
they  have  what  you  would  term  a  free  screen  in  Russia  today;  that  is, 
they  can  make  any  kind  of  a  picture  they  would  like  to? 

Mr.  Warner.  Only  from  what  I  have  read  in  the  free  press  in 
America  do  I  know  what  is  going  on  in  Russia. 

Mr.  Nixon.  What  have  you  read  in  the  free  press  in  America? 

Mr.  Warner.  My  own  individual  conclusion  is  that  everything  is 
censored,  and  you  cannot  do  anything  you  want  to  do. 

Mr.  NixoN.  In  other  words,  from  what  you  have  read  in  the  press, 
which  is  free  in  America,  the  situation  in  Communist  Russia  today 
is  the  same  as  it  was  in  Nazi  Germany,  insofar  as  a  free  screen  or 
free  press  or  free  speech  is  concerned  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  No;  I  cannot  say  that  I  know  that.  I  don't  know  it. 
Not  having  been  there  I  really  don't  know  just  how  they  control  it. 
I  do  know  what  Hitler  and  jNIussolini  did,  but  I  don't  know  what  the 
Russian  Government  is  doing  today. 

Mr.  NixoN.  You  think  it  is  possible  that  in  Russia  today  they  do 
have  a  free  screen  and  free  press?  You  follow  the  statements  that  are 
made  in  the  American  press  to  the  contrary;  do  you  not? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  question  that  they  have  anything  free  there,  from 
what  I  have  read  of  it  in  American  newspapers. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  21 

Mr.  Nixon.  Then  so  far  as  you  are  concerned,  with  your  vital  in- 
terest in  the  free  press  and  the  free  screen,  and  in  maintaining  that  in 
America,  you  believe  it  would  be  essential  that  we  not  have  in  the 
United  States  a  form  of  government,  totalitarian  form  of  govern- 
ment, be  it  Nazi,  Fascist,  or  Communist,  which  would  when  it  came 
into  power  immediately  deny  a  free  press,  free  speech,  and  a  free 
screen  ? 

Mr.  Warner,  I  definitely  am  adverse  to  it  with  all  my  strength 
and  will  oppose  it  with  all  my  strength  because  it  is  my  recollection 
that  the  first  thing  Hitler  did  was  to  remove  the  press.  As  a  matter 
of  fact,  credit  is  given  to  Goering  for  taking  over  the  important  Berlin 
newspapers.  Hitler  had  always  had  one ;  Goebbels  had  his  in  Munich 
or  one  of  the  German  cities. 

The  next  thing  they  did  was  to  remove  the  motion  pictures.  No  one 
could  make  pictures  except  the  Nazis  or  under  their  direction. 

Mr.  Nixon.  That  is  one  of  the  reasons  Warner  Bros,  before  the  war, 
and  even  during  the  early  years  of  the  war,  made  so  many  effective 
pictures  describing  what  was  happening  in  Fascist  Germany  and  to  a 
less  extent  in  totalitarian  Italy? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  sir ;  exactly. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Because  you  were  interested  in  maintaining  a  free  sys- 
tem here  and  you  did  not  want  to  see  that  thing  come  over  here? 

Mr.  Warner.  Definitely,  and  in  addition  to  that,  we  produced  a  film 
called  Confessions  of  a  Nazi  Spy  where  we  endeavored  on  a  free 
screen  by  freemen  to  awaken  the  democracies  of  America  and  Eng- 
land and  others  to  this  terrible  menace  that  faced  them.  I  may  go  to 
Europe  once  or  twice  a  year  and  I  hear  things  in  general  that  I  heard 
way  back  in  1936  and  1937.  That  was  my  last  trip  to  Germany — in 
1937.    That  is  the  reason  for  making  the  film. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  made  those  films  because  you  wanted  to  protect 
free  speech  and  the  free  press  in  America  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Definitely — not  only  in  America,  but  in  other  civilized 
portions  of  the  world  where  men  can  be  freemen. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Consequently,  then,  you  would  feel  it  was  a  patriotic 
duty  which  you  as  a  motion-picture  producer  have,  to  oppose  as  well 
as  you  possibly  can  at  any  time  the  infiltration  into  your  industry  of 
writers  or  others  who  in  some  way  or  other  would  attempt  to  put  into 
those  pictures  certain  lines  of  propaganda  which  have  as  their  aim  and 
their  purpose  the  setting  up  in  the  United  States  of  a  totalitarian 
system  of  government,  be  it  Fascist,  or  Communist;  which  would  de- 
stroy the  rights  that  you  have  now  to  make  any  kind  of  a  picture  you 
want  to  nu.ike? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  for  everything  that  you  have  said. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  agree  with  that  statement? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  agree  wholeheartedly. 

Mv.  Nixox.  The  statement  was  a  little  long. 

Mr.  Warner.  It  was  a  very  good  statement;  it  was  the  statement  of 
a  real  American,  and  I  am  proud  of  it. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Now,  I  note  that  you  made  24  pictures  a  year,  including 
60  or  CO  short  subjects.  I  also  notice,  as  probably  most  of  us  did  who 
go  to  the  movies — and  I  saw  Confessions  of  a  Nazi  Spy  which,  inci- 
dentally was  a  very  fine  job — that  you  have  made  a  considerable  num- 
ber of  pictures  in  which  you  have  pointed  out  the  methods  of  totali- 
tarian dictatorships — the  way  they  deny  free  speech  and  free  press, 


22  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

SO  that  Americans  would  be  able  to  watch  for  that  sort  of  thing  in  our 
own  country  and  be  able  to  resist  it. 

Mr.  Warner.  Pardon  me.  May  I  offer  a  list  of  43  films — 43  of  maybe 
100  or  more  dating  back  to  '1917,  when  I  produced  My  Four  Years  in 
Germany,  under  the  former  Annbassador  to  Germany  at  that  time, 
James  W.  Gerard. 

If  you  go  right  on  down  through  this  list  you  will  find  a  real  effort 
to  do  exactly  as  you  stated  a  few  minutes  ago  in  your  rather  lengthy 
speech — which  was  good.  I  want  to  repeat  that.  I  don't  think  we 
should  be  too  tense  on  this.  Being  too  tense,  I  think  you  end  up 
without  any  tense. 

Here  is  a  photostatic  copy  of  a  review  in  a  Motion-Picture  News 
magazine,  March  23,  1918,  virtually  30  years  ago.  It  is  in  10  reels. 
If  you  want  to  see  it  it  is  a  silent  film  and  runs  for  about  an  hour  and 
a  half.  It  told  the  story  of  what  led  up  to  World  War  I  and  between 
World  War  I  and  World  War  II.  This  is  my  opinion  of  what  it  did. 
The  pictures  speak  for  themselves.     May  I  offer  that  in  evidence? 

Mr.  Nixon.  I  would  like  to  have  these  pictures  made  a  part  of  the 
record  at  this  point. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered.^ 

(The  documents  referred  to  are  as  follows :) 

March  21,  1918 My  Four  Years  in  Germany.     By  James  W.  Gerard. 

December  15,  1918 Kaiser's  Finish. 

1919 lieware.     By  James  W.  Gerard. 

December  11.  1923___  George  Washington,  Jr.     By  George  M.  Cohan. 

March  12,  1927 The  Better  Ole.     By  Bruce  Bairnsfather  and  Arthur  Eliot. 

August  10,  1930 The  Dawn  Patrol.     By  John  Monk  Saunders  and  Howard 

Hawks. 

June  20,  1931 Men  of  the  Sky.     By  Jerome  Kern  and  Otto  Harbach. 

September  12,  1931__.  iVlexander    Hamilton.     By    George    Arliss    and    IVIary    P. 

Hamlin. 

October  3,  1931 I'enrod  and  Sam.     By  Booth  Tarkington. 

February  27,  1937 Penrod  and  Sam   (remake).     By  Booth  Tarkington. 

July  21,  1934 Here  Comes  the  Navy    (reissue  June  7,  1941).     By  Ban 

Markson. 

October  12,  1935 Shipmates  Forever.     By  Delmer  Daves. 

October  11,  1941 International  Squadron.     By  Frank  Wead. 

August  22,  1936 China  Clipper.     By  Frank  Wead. 

January  30,  1937 Black  Legion.     By  Robert  Lord. 

Februiiry  20,  1937___  Green  Light.     By  Lloyd  Douglas. 

November  27,  1937 Submarine  D-1.     By  Frank  Wead. 

February  11,  1939 Wings  of  the  Navy.     By  Michael  Fessier. 

May  6,  1939 Confessions  of  a  Nazi  Spy.     By  Milton  Krims  (from  arti- 
cles by  Leon  G.  Turron). 
January  27,  1940 The  Fighting  69th.     By  NormaA  Reilly  Raine,  Fred  Niblo, 

Jr.,  and  Dean  Franklin. 

October  5,  1940 Knnte  Rockne — All  American.     By  Robert  Buckner. 

August  30,  1941 Dive  Bomber.     By  Fraid<  Wead. 

November  1,  1!)41 One  Foot  in  Heaven.     By  IIartz?ll  Spence. 

February  21,  1942 Captains  of  the  Clouds.     By  Rohnid  Gillett  and  Arthur 

T.  Horman. 

July  4,  1942 Sergeant  York.     By  Alvin  C.  York. 

July  IS,  1942 Wings  for  the  Eagle.     By  Byron  Morgan  and  Ben  Harrison 

Orkow. 

September  5,  1942 Across  the  Pacific.     By  Robert  Carson. 

January  2,  1943 Yankee  Doodle  Dandy.     By  Robert  Buckner. 

January  23,  1943 Casablanca.     By  Murray  IJurnett  and  Jean  Alison. 

March  20,  1943 Air  Force.     By  Dudley  Nichols. 

June  12,  1943 Action  in  the  North  Atlantic.     By  Guy  Gilpatric. 


^  See  appendix,  p.  523,  for  exhibits  3  and  4. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  23 

August  14,  1943 This  Is  the  Army.     By  Irving  Berlin. 

September  4,  1943 Watch  on  the  Rhine.     By  Lillian  Hellnian. 

October  23,  1943 Princess  O'Rourke.     By  Norman  Krasna. 

January  1,  1944 Destination  Tokyo.     By  Steve  Fisher. 

May  6,  1944 The  Adventures  of  Mark  Twain.     By  Alan  LeMay  and 

Harold  M.  Sherman. 
December  30,  1944__.  Hollywood  Canteen.     By  Delmer  Daves. 

February  17,  1945 <  >l)jective  Burma.     By  Alvah  Bessie. 

April  7,  1945 God  Is  My  Co-Pilot.     By  Col.  Robert  Lee  Scott,  Jr. 

September  1,  1945 Pride  of  the  Marines.    By  Roser  Butterfield. 

March  30,  194(5 Saratoga  Trunk.     By  Edna  Ferber. 

August  17,  1946 Two  Guys  From  Milwaukee.    By  Charles  Hoffman  and 

I.  A.  L.  Diamone. 

[Motion  Picture  News,  March  23,  1918] 

My  Four  Years  in  Germany 

(My  Four  Years  in  Germany,  Inc. — 10  reels) 

Reviewed  by  Peter  Milne 

Ambassador  James  W.  Gerard's  widely  read  book,  My  Four  Years  in  Germany, 
relating  his  experiences  as  representative  of  the  United  States  Government  in  the 
center  of  Prussianism,  makes  a  stirring  patriotic  propaganda  as  rendered  into 
film  form  by  Charles  A.  Logue,  who  prepared  a  scenario,  and  by  William  Nigh, 
who  directed. 

Last  Sunday  night  at  the  Knickerbocker  Theater  when  the  film  received  its 
premiere  presentation,  there  was  hardly  a  minutfi  when  the  house  did  not  ring 
with  applause  that  turned  into  cheers. 

All  the  wily  diplomacy  with  which  the  heads  of  the  German  Nation  sought  to 
deceive  the  United  States  through  its  representative,  all  the  atrocities  witnessed 
by  Mr.  Gerard,  such  as  the  mistreatment  of  the  English  prisoners,  the  deportation 
of  helpless  Belgian  women,  perpetrated  without  regard  for  any  sense  of  inter- 
national law- — -these  and  a  large  assortment  of  views  of  Allied  troops  on  the 
march  make  capital  seeing  for  tlie  man  who  goes  into  the  theater  ready  to  have 
his  emotions  stirred  against  the  common  enemy. 

While  there  is  no  personal  story  interwoven  with  the  facts,  these  in  themselves 
are  fully  dramatic  enough  to  make  the  10  reels  pass  tirelessly.  There  is  no  stone 
left  unturned  to  arouse  the  audience  to  a  sense  that  the  German  manner  of 
conducting  war  is  synonymous  with  barbarism. 

One  witnesses  the  heartrending  sight  of  helpless  prisoners  shot  down  before 
German  tiring  squads  because  "there  will  be  less  mouths  to  feed,"  of  English  and 
Russian  soldiers  placed  in  the  same  pens  together  so  that  the  former  contract 
diseases  common  among  the  latter,  and  feeding  of  the  prisoners  as  dogs. 

All  of  which  Mr.  Gerard  was  an  eyewitness — and  more — is  utilized  to  spread 
the  propaganda. 

The  sense  of  humor  of  the  director  is  oftimes  obvious.  It  was,  indeed,  a  praise- 
worthy sense  when  it  came  to  the  production.  One  long  line  of  actual  horrors 
and  of  German  intrigue  would  be  rather  fatiguing  without  some  relief.  This  is 
introduced  in  the  way  of  an  element  of  burlesque  (m  the  German  Emperor,  the 
Crown  Prince,  and  the  other  war  lords  of  Germany.  These  touches  registered 
every  time  during  the  initial  showing;  and  they  are  the  kind  that  will  be  appre- 
ciated by  any  audience. 

The  scenes  of  real  troops  with  which  the  fihn  is  crowded  are  well  woven  into 
the  matter  picturized  from  Mr.  Gerard's  book,  and  usually  to  more  rousing  effect 
than  if  tliey  liad  merely  been  shown  by  themselves.  When  the  Kaiser  laughs  at  his 
enemies  it  makes  one  feel  pretty  fine  when  these  same  enemies  are  shown  pre- 
p;a-ing  for  battle  with  a  vengeance. 

Halbert  Brown,  a  man  who  might  be  mistak"/i  for  Mr.  Gerard  by  his  best  friend, 
impersonates  him  in  the  picture.  He  mnkes  an  impressive  and  dignified  figure 
of  tiie  American  diplomat.  Mr.  Gerard  himself  cannot  complain — at  least  he 
didn't  in  his  speech  last  Sunday  night.  Louis  Dean  presented  a  good  make-up  as 
tiie  Kaiser  and  had  he  been  imbued  with  some  sense  of  the  autocratic  majesty 
of  the  part,  his  characterization  might  have  been  perfect. 

Fred  Hern  and  I'ercy  Standing,  respectively,  playing  Minister  Von  Jagow  and 
Secretary  Zimmerman  succeeded  in  l)ringiiig  out  the  cunning  German  diplomacy 
in  realistic  .style.     Earl  Schenck  as  the  Crown  Prince,  George  Riddell  as  von 


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Hindenbiirg,  Frank  Stone  as  Prince  Henry,  Karl  Dane  as  Betlimann-Hollweg,  and 
Arthur  C.  Duvel  as  von  Falkenhayn  generally  have  convincing  make-ups  and 
play  to  good  effect. 

IMr.  Nigh  himself  plays  the  part  of  a  German  social  democrat  whose  excellent 
convictions  are  finally  overwhelmed  by  inborn  patriotism.  His  tragic  story, 
terminating  with  his  final  stand  tor  helpless  prisoners,  adds  a  valuable  ijersonal 
touch  to  the  picture,  though  it  is  not  \<.ny  prominent.  A.  B.  Conkwright,  as  his 
companion  in  the  Reichstag,  in  whom  blood  lust  predominates  after  the  outbreak 
of  the  war,  also  contributes  a  valuable  characterization. 

My  Four  Years  in  Gt^rmany  exposes  the  inner  workings  of  the  German  jwlitical 
and  military  machine  and  lets  its  audience  know  why  America  is  at  war  as 
clearly  as  did  Mr.  Gerard's  book. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  have  39  subjects  here,  all  pro- American  short  sub- 
jects. 

Mr.  Nixon.  How  many  of  those  are  there,  Mr.  Warner? 

Mr.  Warner.  Thirty-nine.  This  is  a  list  of  those  really  to  the  point. 
It  starts  out  with  Song  of  a  Nation,  and  runs  right  on  down  to  one 
called  It  Happened  in  Springfield. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  that  will  be  placed  in  the  record.^ 

(The  document  referred  to  is  as  follows:) 

Pro-Amekican  Short  Subjects 

Release  date  Title 

July  4,  1936 Song  of  a  Nation  (patriotic  series). 

Producer:  Gordon  Hollingshead. 

Director:  Frank  McDonald. 

Writers :  Screen  play  by  Fori-est  Barnes. 

Stars:  Donald  Woods,  (Jlaire  Dodd,  Joseph  Crehan. 
February  20,  1937 Under  Southern  Stars  (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon  Hollingshead. 

Director:  Nick  Grinde. 

Writers :  Story  and  screen  play  by  Forrest  Barnes. 

Stars :  Fred  Lawrence,  Jane  Bryan,  Wayne  Morris. 
December  19,  1936 Give  Me  Liberty  (patriotic  series). 

Producer:  Gordon  Hollingshead. 

Director:  B.  Reeves  Eaton. 

Writers :  Story  and  screen  play  by  Forrest  Barnes. 

Stars:  John   Litel,   Nedda  Harrigan. 
November  27,  1937__.  Man  Without  a  Country,  the    (patriotic  series). 

Produ -er  :  Gordon  Hollingshead. 

Director:  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writers:  Screen   play   by   Forrest   Barnes;    adapted 
from   story  by   Edward   Everett   Hale. 

Stars:  John  Litel,  Gloria  Holden,  Theodore  Osborne 
February  24,  1939_—  Romance  of  Louisiana  (patriotic  series). 

Pi-oducer :  Gorden  Hollingshead. 

Written  and  directed  by  Crane  Wilbur. 

Stars:  Addison  Richards.  Crane  Wilbur,  Orville  Al- 
derman. 
August  19,  1939 Bill  of  Rights  (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon    Hollingshead. 

Director:  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writers :  Original  screen  play  by  Charles  Tedford. 

Stars:  Ted  Osborne,  Maroni  Olson. 
May  27,  1939 Sons  of  Liberty  (patriotic  series). 

Prcducer:  Gordon  Hollingshead. 

Director :  Michael  Curtiz. 

Writers  :  Original  screen  play  by  Crane  Wilbur. 

Stars:  Claude  Rains,  Gale  Sondergaard,  Donald 
Crisp. 


■*  See  appendix,  p.  523,  for  exhibits  5  and  8.  'H 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  25 

Pro-American  Short  Subjects — Continued 

Release  date  Title 

February  11,  1939 Lincoln  in  the  White  House  (patriotic  series). 

Producer:  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director:  William  McGann. 

Writers:  Original  screen  play  by  Charles  Tedford. 

Stars:  Frank  McGlynn,  Sr.,  Dickie  Moore. 
November  26,  1938 Declaration  of  Independence  (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writers :  Original   screen   play  by  Charles  Tedford. 

Stars:  John  Litel,  Ted  Osborne,  Roselle  Towue. 
July  1,  1939 Right  Way,  the. 

Producer:  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director:  Crane  Wilbui". 

Writers :  Original  screen  play  by  Dore  Schary. 

Stars:  Irene   Rich,    Gabriel   Dall,   Hanry   O  Neill. 
August  31,  1940 Service  With  the  Colors  (dedicated  to  U.  S.  Army). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Writers :  Original  screen  play  by  Owen  Crump. 

Stars  :  Robert  Armstrong,  William  Landigan. 
February  24,  1940 Teddy  the  Rough  Rider  (patriotic  series). 

Producer:  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director:  Ray  Enright. 

Writers :  Original    screen   play  by  Charles   Tedford. 

Stars :  Sdney    Blackmer,    Pierre   Watkin,    Theodore 
Von  Eltz. 
December  23,  1939 Old  Hickory  (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director:  Lew  Seller. 

Writers :  Screen  play  by  Don  Rayn  and  Owen  Crump. 

Stars:  Hugh  Sothern.  Nana  Bryant,  Victor  Kilian. 
October  14,  1939 Monroe  Doctrine  (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writers:  Original  screen  play  by  Charles  Tedford. 
Stars :  Grant  Mitchell,  James  Stephenson. 
October  19,  1&40 Flag  of  Humanity   (patriotic  series). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Jean  Negulesco. 

Writers  :  Written  by  Charles  Tedford. 

Stars  :  Nana  Bryant,  Fay  Helm. 
June  20,  1942 March  of  Ame'ica. 

Producer:  Gordon   HoUingshead. 

Writers :  Written  by  Owen  Crump,  narrated  by  Rich- 
ard Whorf. 
November  28,  1942__  Spirit  of  West  Point,  The. 

Producer :  Gordon   HoUingshead. 

Director:  Jean  Negiilesco. 
September  5,  1942 Spirit  of  Annapolis,  The. 

Producer :  Gordon   HoUingshead. 

Director:  Jean  Negulesco. 
February  27,  1943 Armv  Show. 

Director:  Jean  Negulesco. 

Writers :  Based    on    radio    program    Soldiers    With 
Wings. 
November   4,    1944—  Champions  of  th*^  Future. 

Producer:  Howard  Hill. 

Director:  Howard  Hill. 

Writers:  Narration  written  by  Roger  Z.  Denny. 
March  18,  1944 Chinatown  Champs. 

Producer :  Van  Campen  Heilner  and  A.  Pam  Blumen- 
thal. 

Director:  Andre  De  La  Varre. 

W  iters:  Narration  written  by  Jack  SchoU. 
November  6,  1943 Our  Alaskan  Frontier. 

Writers :  Narration  written  by  Carl  Dudley. 


26  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

PROnAMKRicAN  Short  SUBJECTS — (^ontimiefl 

Release  date  Title 

April  29,  1944 Our  Frontier  in  Italy. 

Writers:  Narration  written  by  Saul  Elkins. 

August  12, 1945 Devil  Boats. 

April  as,  1945 It  Happened  in  Sprinsfield. 

Producer:  Gordon  HoUingshead. 
Director :  Crane  Wilbur. 
Writers :  Crane  Wilbur. 

Stars :  Andrea  King,  Warren  Douglas,  Charles  Drake> 
John  Qualen. 
November  11,  1944___   I  Won't  Play. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director:  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writei-s :  Story  by  Laurence  Schwab.    Screen  play  by 

James  Bloodworth. 
Stars:  Dane    Clark,    Janis    Paige,    Warren    Douglas, 
Robert  Shayne,  William  Haade,  William  Benedict. 

December  23,  1944 I  Am  an  American. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writers :  Written  by  Crane  Wilbur. 

August  4,  1943 America  the  Beautiful. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Writers :  Narration  by  Owen  Crump  and  Saul  Elkins. 

February  3,  1945 Pledge  to  Bataan. 

Producer:  Gordon  Holingshead ;  associate,  Herbert  T. 

Edwards. 
Director:  David  GrifRn. 

Writers:  Narration  by  Ralph  Schoolman 'and  Charles 
L.  Tedford. 
September  1,  1945—  Miracle  Makers  (reissue). 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Owen  Crump. 

Writers:  From  additional  film  by  Lester  Ilfeld. 

October  13,  1945 Star  in  the  Night. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Don  Siegel. 

Writers :  Screen  play  by  Saul  Elkins.     From  a  story 

by  Robert  Finch. 
Stars  :  J.  Carrol  Naish,  Donald  Woods,  Rosina  Galli. 

October  10,  1945 Sports  Go  to  War. 

Producers :   A.   Pam   Blumenthal   and   Andre  De  La 

Varre. 
Supervised  by  Gordon  HoUingshead. 
Director:  Van  Campen  Heilner. 
Writer :  Narration  written  by  Charles  L.  Tedford. 

March  30,  1946 All  Aboard. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 
Director :  Carl  Dudley. 
Writer:   Saul  Elkins. 

August  24,  1946 Men  of  Tomorrow. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 
Director :  Saul  Elkins. 
Writer:  Saul  Elkins. 

June  15,  1946 Hawaiian  Memories. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 
Director  :  John  D.  Craig. 
Writer:  Narration  by  Saul  Elkins. 

October  19,  1946 Star  Spangled  City. 

Producer :  Gordon  HoUingshead. 

Director :  Carl  Dudley. 

Writer :  Narration  written  by  Charles  Linton  Tedford 

1945 Divide  and  Conquer. 

1946 Hitler  Lives.    Academy  award  winning  short. 

Power  Behind  the  Nation. 


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[Congressional  Record — Proceedings  and  debates  of  the  80th  Cong.,  1st  sess.] 

Statement  of  Senator  Martin,  of  Pennsylvania,  on  Education  in  Patbiotism 
Through  Motion  Pictures 

In  the  Senate  of  the  United  States,  Wednesday,  July  16, 1947 

Mr.  Martin.  Mr.  President,  there  is  before  the  Senate  a  measure  by  the  dis- 
tinguished senior  Senator  from  Vermont  recommending  Government  production 
of  films  about  the  American  system  of  constitutional  government.  It  is  proposed 
to  make  these  films  available  to  schools  as  educational  documents  in  order  to 
inculcate  into  our  young  people  a  better  understanding  of  the  American  system. 

This  is  a  notable  purpose.  But  I  should  like  to  see  such  films  shovpn  to  that 
very  large  portion  of  our  adult  population  vphich  attends  the  motion-picture 
theaters.  In  my  opinion  it  is  just  as  important  for  our  adults  to  see  such  motion 
pictures  as  it  is  for  our  children. 

In  this  connection,  I  want  to  call  the  attention  of  this  body  to  an  important 
venture  of  a.  similar  nature  already  accomplished  through  private  enterprise. 
During  the  past  decade  there  has  been  produced  a  series  of  patriotic  featurettes 
in  color  about  American  history.  Not  only  have  they  been  widely  exhibited  in 
theaters,  but  they  have  been  available  in  recent  years  without  profit  for  non- 
theatrical  showings  by  churches,  educational  institutions,  patriotic  organizations, 
and  clubs.  The  Treasury  Department,  itself,  distributed  the  most  recent  of  the 
series — America  the  Beautiful,  a  technicolor  production. 

These  films  were  made  by  Warner  Bros.,  one  of  the  great  motion-picture  pro- 
ducer.s,  with  a  fine  sense  of  civic  responsibility  and  good  citizenship.  When  their 
theater  engagements  had  been  completed,  they  were  made  into  16-millimeter  films 
for  schools  and  civic  bodies  to  show.  Some  of  the  finest  actors  of  the  motion- 
picture  industry  appeared  in  them,  and  the  productions  were  of  the  highest 
artistic  caliber. 

Because  of  the  new  bill,  I  am  glad  to  call  attention  to  the  timeliness  of  the 
Warner  Bros,  featurettes,  and  to  mention  some  of  their  titles  and  topics. 

The  first  was  The  Song  of  a  Nation,  which  told  the  story  of  how  the  Star-Span- 
gled  Banner  came  to  be  written.  Released  to  theaters  on  June  4,  1946,  it  proved 
so  successful  that  a  whole  series  of  historical  shorts  followed. 

Give  IMe  Liberty  made  moviegoers  part  of  the  audience  which  heard  Patrick 
Henry  make  his  stirring  speech  to  the  Virginia  House  of  Delegates  in  1775. 
Other  outstanding  pictures  of  these  series  have  been  : 

The  Declaration  of  Independence,  showing  the  signing  of  that  historic  docu- 
ment; The  Bill  of  Rights,  in  which  audiences  saw  the  fight  for  a  free  press  and 
free  speecli ;  Sons  of  Liberty,  portraying  Haym  Soloman  ;  the  Romance  of  Louisi- 
ana, with  James  Monroe  negotiating  the  great  Louisiana  Purchase. 

Theater  audiences  also  saw  President  Monroe  read  his  historic  message  to 
Congress  in  The  Monroe  Doctrine ;  saw  the  defense  of  New  Orleans  by  Andrew 
Jackson  in  Old  Hickory ;  and  a  dramatization  of  the  famous  Man  Without  a 
Country.  There  were  also  Lincoln  in  the  White  House,  to  give  one  side  of  the 
War  Between  the  States ;  and  Under  Southern  Stars,  to  give  the  other.  The  final 
picture  was  Teddy,  the  Rough  Rider. 

Song  of  a  Nation  was  reissued  last  May  and  is  again  being  shown  in  the 
theaters,  while  I  understand  that  Teddy,  the  Rough  Rider,  will  come  out  once 
more  next  season,  with  some  of  the  others  to  follow. 

This  is  a  good  time  to  take  note  of  these  fine  productions.  World  affairs  are  in 
an  uncertain  state,  and  there  is  a  tug  of  war  between  our  kind  of  country  and 
communistic  dictatorship.  Our  people  tend  to  take  America  for  granted  and  to 
forget  why  it  came  about  and  the  heroism  and  sacrifice  which  went  into  making 
our  Nation's  greatness. 

I  am  so  glad  that  this  splendid  series  of  patriotic  motion  pictures  is  available 
not  only  to  schools  but  to  the  adult  population  as  well.  It  is  important  that  movies 
like  these  be  shown  in  our  theaters  today,  not  only  to  educate  the  children  but 
also  to  reeducate  the  adults. 

The  skill  and  patriotic  effoi-ts  of  those  at  the  Warner  Bros,  studios  who  pre- 
pared the.se  dramatizations  of  the  making  of  our  Republic  should  be  given  full 
recognition.  It  is  proper  and  fitting  that  Warner  Bros,  should  be  commended 
here  in  the  United  States  Senate  for  this  important  contribution  to  good  citizen- 
ship. It  is  an  outstanding  example  of  this  kind  of  service  that  motion  pictures 
can  render  to  the  Nation. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  just  want  to  give  you  the  last  one  or  two.  One  is 
running  now — I  won't  say  at  what  tlieater — but  one  is  running.    It  is 


28  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

in  technicolor,  and  it  is  worth  seeing.  Every  American  should  see  it ; 
not  only  every  American,  but  every  foreigner  who  thinks  he  wants  to 
be  an  American. 

The  Chairman.  ;Mr.  Warner,  I  hope  some  of  these  other  producers 
speak  as  well  for  some  of  their  pictures. 

Mr.  Warner.  You  can  find  in  tliese  pictures,  gentlemen,  pictures 
like  Give  Me  Liberty,  Man  Without  a  Country,  Romance  of  Louisiana; 
also  the  Bill  of  Rights,  Lincoln  in  the  White  House,  Declaration  of 
Independence,  Teddy,  the  Rough  Rider,  Old  Hickory,  Monroe  Doc- 
trine, Flag  of  Humanity.  A  good  one  to  see  is  March  On,  America.  I 
Am  an  American ;  that  is  a  very  good  film  we  should  all  see  again  to 
reaffirm  what  this  country  is  all  about.  It  was  written  during  the 
height  of  the  war  in  England.    America  the  Beautiful 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead  with  your  questions. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  want  the  American  people  to  know  about  that. 

The  Chairman.  They  will  know  about  it.    It  will  be  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  want  to  make  sure  it  is  in  the  record.  Also,  here 
is  a  pro-American  film  produced  by  Warner  Bros,  studies,  without 
profit,  in  cooperation  with  the  United  States  armed  forces.  The  last 
one  was  called  The  Last  Bomb.  It  is  in  technicolor.  It  was  made  by 
the  United  States  Army  Air  Force  and  is  worth  seeing.  These  are  26 
pictures.  I  won't  give  you  the  names  of  all,  but  they  were  all  for  the 
war  effort. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Mr.  Warner,  I  think  I  can  see  why  you  have  been  so 
successful  in  selling  your  pictures  to  the  American  public. 

Getting  back  to  my  original  point,  Warner  Bros,  has  made  a  great 
number  of  very  effective  antitotalitarian  pictures  in  which  they  pointed 
out  the  dangers  of  fascism  and  nazism.  They  have  also  made  some 
very  effective  films  under  what  we  might  term  "selling  America"  pic- 
tures, in  which  you  point  out  the  benefits  of  our  American  system  and 
in  which  you  describe  the  freedoms  which  we  have  here. 

You  have  also  said  you  make  about  24  full-length  pictures  a  year 
and  50  or  60  short  subjects.  You  have  indicated  here  in  your  state- 
ment that  you  are  willing  to  establish  a  fund  to  ship  to  Russia  the 
people  who  do  not  like  our  system  of  government  and  who  prefer  the 
Communist  system  to  ours. 

You  have  also  indicated  from  some  of  your  observations  that  you 
question  the  fact  that  there  may  be  free  speech  or  a  free  screen  in 
Russia.  You  have  questioned  some  of  the  methods;  and  I  am  sure 
if  you  have  just  returned  from  Europe,  as  I  have,  and  have  seen  the 
conditions  in  Italy  and  Yugoslavia  and  in  France,  you  have  no  ques- 
tion but  that  the  totalitarian  methods  used  bv  the  Communists  are  no 
different  from  those  used  by  the  Fascists  or  Nazis. 

Under  those  circumstances,  I  would  like  to  know  whether  or  not 
Warner  Bros,  has  made,  or  is  making  at  the  present  time,  any  pictures 
pointing  out  the  methods  and  the  evils  of  totalitarian  communism,  as 
you  so  effectively  have  pointed  out  the  evils  of  the  totalitarian  Nazis. 

Mr.  Warner.  We  are  preparing,  and  will  make,  one  film  called  Up 
Until  Now.  That  picture  has  been  in  the  process  of  writing,  but  it 
is  a  very  serious  subject,  and  we  have  been  criticized  by  some  people  in 
messages.  I  am  sure  we  will  come  to  it  a  little  later.  We  want  to  be 
positive  we  know  what  we  are  doing. 

Mr.  Nixon.  The  reason  you  have  not  made  pictures  pointing  out 
the  evils  of  the  totalitarian  system  on  the  left,  as  well  as  on  the  right, 


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is,  as  you  have  indicated  here,  that  if  you  did  so  you  wouhl  have  tre- 
mendous objection  from  within  the  industry  itself? 

Mr.  Warner.  Not  the  industry. 

Mr.  Nixon.  When  I  speak  of  the  industry,  I  mean  the  people  em- 
})loyed  by  the  industry,  the  writers',  and  the  people  outside  who  think 
tliey  have  a  vested  interest  in  it. 

Mr.  Wakxek.  I  am  not  worried  about  those  in  the  industry  who 
will  object,  because  since  the  beginning  of  the  ages  people  have  been 
objecting  to  what  others  are  doing  in  their  own  ranks,  but  I  want 
to  be  positive  when  we  make  a  film  pertaining  to  the  activities  of  the 
Communists  in  America,  and  the  Fascists  as  well,  we  want  to  be  right 
in  our  presentation. 

Then  we  have  made,  as  I  told  you,  500  subjects  showing  the  positive 
American  way  of  life.  I  think  that  is  a  great  counter  to  the  Communist 
and  Fascist  way  of  life. 

Mr.  Nixox.  I  agree  with  you  absolutely,  Mr.  Warner.  I  believe 
it  is  essential,  as  you  have  put  it  so  well  in  your  statement,  we  must 
attack  with  a  free  press  and  a  free  screen.  I  also  believe  that  you 
have  stated  in  your  statement  freedom  of  expression  does  not  include  a 
license  to  destroy. 

But  I  think  the  point  still  must  be  well  taken ;  and  from  your  obser- 
vations, I  think  you  will  agree  with  it,  that  there  is  not  only  a  positive 
duty  on  the  part  of  you  as  an  xVmerican  citizen  to  point  out  the  benefits 
of  our  way  of  life  as  you  are  doing  so  effectively,  but  also  when  we 
see  a  real,  present  danger  to  our  system,  a  danger  which  would  impose 
upon  America  a  system  of  government  which  would  deny  to  all  of  us 
the  freedoms  we  now  have — as  was  the  case  with  the  Nazis  back  in 
1989  and  1940 — it  is  not  only  your  duty  to  point  out  the  truth  but 
also  the  facts,  so  that  the  American  people  will  be  able  to  make  a  choice. 
If  they  want  that  sort  of  thing,  then  they  should  know  what  it  is. 

Under  the  circumstances.  I  think  this  committee  is  glad  to  hear  that 
Warner  Bros,  is  contemplating  for  the  first  time  now  making  a  motion 
l)icture  in  which  they  point  out  to  the  American  people  the  dangers  of 
totalitarian  comnumisni  as  well  as  fascism. 

Mr.  AVakxer.  There  is  one  other  film  we  made  some  years  ago  called 
the  Black  Legion.  It  Avas  an  actual-fact  story.  It  caused  quite  a 
furor,  down  to  threats  upon  lives,  and  so  on.  We  will  certainly  con- 
tinue, as  long  as  we  are  in  the  motion-picture  industry,  to  aid  this  great 
country  of  the  United  States  with  every  ounce  of  energy  we  possess. 
1  speak  for  my  brothers  and  myself. 

^Ir.  Nixox.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  like  to  have  this  additional  list  placed  in  the 
record;  these  26.^ 

The  Chair.aiax.  Without  objection,  it  will  be  done. 
(The  list  referred  to  is  as  follows :) 

Pro-American  Shobt  Subjects  PRODrcF;u  bv  Warner  Bros.  Stluids 

(Produfetl  in  cooperation  with  United  States  aimed  forces) 

Jielra.se  date  Title 

Nov.  2.  194(5 Last  Uonib,  The. 

In  cooperation  witli  United  States  Army  Air  Forces. 

Sui)ervised  by  Frank  Lloyd. 


'  .Sfe  appcmlix.  p.  .")2.'i.  for  cxliibit  7. 
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Pbo-American  Short  Subjects  Produced  by  Warner  Bros.  Studios — Continued 

Release  date  Title 

Apr.  13,  1946 Gem  of  the  Ocean  (U.  S.  Navy). 

Narration  by  Cliarles  L.  Tedford. 
September  29,  1945--  Here  Comes  the  Nqvy  Biuid. 

Director:  Dave  Gould. 

Photographed  in  cooptn-ation  with  (U.  S.  Navy). 
January  G,  1945 Beaelihead  to  Berlin  (  U.  S.  Coastguard).  ♦ 

Narration  written  by  Charles  Linton  Tedford. 
August  IS,  1945 Orders  From  Tolvyo. 

In  cooperation  with  the  Philippine  government  and 
the  Office  of  Strategic  Services. 

Prologue  by  Brig.  Gen.  Carlos  P.  Romulo,  Resident 
Commissioner    of    the    Philippines,    to    the    United 
States  photographer  and  narrated  by  David  C  Grif- 
fin, captain,  United  States  Marine  Corps. 
September  23,  1944__.  Proudly  We  Serve  (U.  S.  Marine  Corps). 

Director :  Crane  Wilbur. 

Writer:  Written  by  Crane  Wilbur. 

Stars :  Andrea  King,  Warren  Douglas. 
March  3,  1945 Nav.v  Nurse  (U.  S.  Navy). 

Director :  D.  Ross  Lederman. 

Stars :  Andrea     King,     Marjorie     Riordan,     Warren 
Douglas. 
July  7,  1945 Live  ano  to  page  22,  you  will  find  that  I  replied — well,  it  refers  to  who  con- 
tacted us  about  making  the  film.    I  said : 

At  the  time  I  can't  remember  if  he  contacted  us,  or  my  brother  who  was  in 
New  York  contacted  Mr.  Davies.  I  can't  say  who  contacted  whom,  but  I  know 
that  we  went  ahead  with  it. 

Here  is  the  story  of  what  occurred.  My  brother  contacted  Mr. 
Davies  after  reading  Misson  to  Moscow  as  a  best  seller  on  the  stands 
and  in  the  new\spapers.  Mr.  Davies  stated,  "There  are  other  com- 
panies wanting  to  produce  this  book  and  I  would  be  very  happy 
to  do  business  with  you  if  you  want  to  make  it,"  or  words  to  that 
effect.  My  brother  made  the  deal  with  Mr.  Davies  to  make  it  and  it 
was  at  my  brother's  suggestion  and  not  Mr.  Davies'.  I  am  rather 
surprised  I  said  what  I  did.  but  I  want  to  stand  corrected,  if  I  may. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  All  right,  Mr.  Warner.  Now,  I  would  like  to  read 
further.  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chaikman.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

Mr.  Stripuxg.  Did  Mr.  Davies  coni'e  to  Hollywood  to  see  you  relative  to  the 
making  of  Mission  of  Moscow,  or  did  you  confer  with  him  at  any  time  about  it 
in  person? 

Mr.  Warnek.  I  conferred  with  him  in  AVashington  and  we  made  the  deal  in 
the  East,  in  New  York  or  Washington ;  I  have  forgotten  which.  But  he  did 
come  here  when  the  film  was  being  produced,  and  he  also  acted  in  an  advisory 
capacity  throughout  tlie  making  of  the  film.  As  a  matter  of, fact,  he  appeared 
in  a  slight  prologue  of  the  picture. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Don't  you  consider  very  frankly  that  the  film  Mission  to  Mos- 
cow was  in  some  ways  a  misinterpretation  of  the  facts,  or  the  existing 
conditions'/ 

Mr.  Warner.  Of  the  time,  you  mean? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warner.  In  1942? 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words,  certain  historical  incidents  which  were  por- 
trayed in  the  film  were  not  true  to  fact? 

Mr.  Warner.  Well,  all  I  could  go  by — I  read  the  novel  and  spoke  to  Mr.  Davies 
on  many,  many  occasions.  I  had  to  take  his  word  that  they  were  the  facts.  He 
had  published  the  novel  and  we  were  criticized  severely  by  the  press  in  New 
York  and  elsewhere.  As  I  remember,  it  was  started  up  by  this  Professor  Dewey 
from  Columbia  University.  From  what  I  read  and  heard,  he  was  a  Trotskyite 
and  tliey  were  the  ones  who  objected  mostly  to  this  filia  because  of  Lenin  versus 
Trotsk.v 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  Dr.  John  Dewey? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes.  That  is  what  I  read.  He  made  statements  in  the  New 
York  Times  which  were  as  long  as  the  paper  was,  but  as  to  the  actual  facts, 
if  they  weren't  portrayed  authentically — I  never  was  in  Russia  myself  and  I 
don't  know  what  they  were  doing  in  1942,  other  than  seeing  the  events  of  the 
battles  for  Stalingrad  and  Moscow,  which  we  all  saw  in  the  films  and  read  about. 
But  I  talked  to  ^Ir.  Davies  about  that  after  we  were  criticized,  and  there  is  only 
one  thing  tliat  happens  which  is  a  license,  what  we  call  condensation  in  the 
making  of  films.  We  put  the  two  trials  in  one  and  the  two  trials  were  condensed 
because  if  you  ran  the  two  trials  it  would  go  on  for  20  reels.  I  personally  did 
not  consider  that  film  pro-Communist  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Now,  it  is  1947.     Do  you  think  it  is  pro-Coninmnist  now? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  I  would  have  to  think  over.  Let  me  pause  for  a  minute 
and  ask  you  a  question  or  two,  if  you  don't  mind.  You  mean  by  saying  that  the 
type  of  scenes  shown  in  that  film  today  would  that  make  the  picture  pro-Com- 
munist ;  is  that  it? 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  said  in  1^942. 

Mr.  Warner.  It  was  made  in  1942. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  did  not  believe  it  wns  pro-Communist? 

Mr.  Warner.  No.     We  wei'e  at  war  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Now  it  is  1947.     Do  you  believe  it  is  pro-Communist? 


34  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  yon  release  the  film  now,  in  other  words? 

Mr.  Warner.  No ;  we  would  not  release  the  film  now. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Why  not  release  the  film  now? 

Mr.  W^\RNE2i.  Because  of  the  way  Russia  is  handling  international  affairs  since 
the  cessation  of  the  war.  I  consider,  in  my  opinion  as  an  American,  that  they 
are  advocating  communism  throughout  the  world  and  I  am  not  in  any  shape, 
manner,  or  form  in  favor  of  anything  like  that.  In  fact,  I  despise  and  detest 
the  very  word. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  say  Mr.  Davies  got  in  touch  with  you.  He  was  the  first 
one  to  get  in  touch  with  you  about  the  idea  of  producing  this  film  ;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Warner.  At  the  time  I  can't  remember  if  he  contacted  us,  or  my  brother 
who  was  in  New  York  contacted  Mr.  Davies.  I  can't  say  who  contacted  whom, 
but  I  know  that  we  went  ahead  with  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  any  other  person  in  the  Government  contact  either  you  or 
your  brother  in  connection  with  producing  Mission  to  Moscow? 

]\Ir.  AVarner.  Not  to  my  knowledge ;  no. 

Mr.  Stiupling.  What  about  the  State  Department? 

Mr.  Warnek.  You  mean  anyone  in  the  State  Department  that  asked  us  to 
make  it? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  they  consulted  in  any  way  in  this  film,  or  did  they  consult 
with  you? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  trying  to  think  hard  who 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  am  being  very  frank,  Mr.  Warner. 

Mr.  Warner.  If  you  will  give  me  a  couple  of  minutes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  be  very  frank  with  you.  The  charge  is  often  made  and 
many  statements  have  been  made  to  the  committee  to  the  effect  that  Mission  to 
Moscow  was  made  at  the  request  of  our  Government  as  a  so-called  appeasement 
or  pap  to  the  Russians ;  in  other  words,  it  was  produced  at  the  request  of  the 
Government.    Now,  is  such  a  statement  without  foundation? 

Mr.  Warner.  I^ee  what  you  mean.  No  ;  it  is  not  without  foundation.  That  is 
why  I  am  very  happy  you  put  it  that  way.  In  order  to  answer  that  question 
correctly,  I  would  say  there  were  rumors  and  many  stories  to  the  effect  that 
if  Stalingrad  fell,  Stalin  would  again  join  up  with  Hitler  because,  naturally, 
the  way  the  stories  were  that  far  back,  during  the  hardest  days  of  the  war,  fi-om 
what  I  could  get  out  of  it,  is  that  the  authorities  in  Washington  who  were  con- 
ducting tlie  war  were  afraid  if  Stalin  would  make  up  with  Hitler  they  would 
destroy  the  world,  not  only  continental  Europe  and  Russia,  but  Japan  and 
everything  else.  And  we  know  what  the  scheme  of  things  was,  that  the  Japs 
and  Germans  were  to  meet  in  India  or  Egypt,  I  forget  just  which. 

IMr.  Thomas.  Do  you  mean  to  say  some  of  the  Government  officials  in  Wash- 
ington informed  you  that  they  were  fearful  that  Stalin  might  hook  up  with 
Hitler? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  but  that  was  the  tenor  of  things.  It  would  be  pretty  hard 
for  me  to  say  that  someone  told  me  that,  but  that  was  just  the  general  feeling 
in  Washington.    Every  time  I  would  go  there  that  would  be  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Mr.  Stripling  asked  a  question  that  I  don't  think  we  have  had 
an  answer  to  yet. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Let  me  state  further,  Mr.  Chairman,  it  has  also  been  charged 
that  this  film  had  the  tacit  approval,  if  not  the  request,  of  the  White  House. 

Mr.  Warner,  was  there  anything  that  occurred  prior  to  the  production  of  this 
film  which  led  you  to  believe  that  the  Government,  the  Federal  Government, 
desired  that  this  film  be  made  as  a  contribution  to  the  war  effort?  In  other 
words,  what  I  want  to  make  clear,  there  is  no  desire  on  the  part  of  the  sub- 
committee to  put  you  or  your  company  on  the  spot  for  making  Mission  to  ^Moscow 
but  if  it  was  nuide,  as  in  other  films,  at  the  request  of  the  Government  as  a 
so-called  patriotic  duty,  you  would  have  no  other  course  to  follow  and  you  would 
naturally  be  expected  to  do  so. 

Mr.  Warner.  The  general  feeling  as  I  found  it  in  Washington  was  a  tre- 
mendous fear  that  Stalin  might  go  back  with  Hitler  because  he  had  done  it  before. 

Mr.  Thomas.  No.  What  we  want  to  get  at  is  the  reason,  not  the  general 
feelings. 

IMr.  Warner.  Yes  ;  but  I  am  just  going  to  come  back  to  that. 

Mr.  Thomas.  All  right. 

Mr.  Warner.  The  Russians  were  very  discouraged  and  they  figured  that  the 
United  States  was  not  going  to  back  them  up  with  lend-lease  and  so  on  and  so 
forth  in  sufficient  quantities  to  beat  Hitler,  wliich  was  very,  very  important)  to 
civilization,  and  the  feeling  was  if  a  film  could  be  made — and  I  imagine  other 
things  were  being  done — to  assure  the  Russians  and  Stalin 


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Mr.  Thomas.  Can't  you  be  more  specific.     You  say  a  feeling  existed. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Thomas.  We  want  to  Ivuow  more  about  the  specific  tiling,  something  more 
than  just  a  general  feeling.  We  want  to  know  the  persons  in  the  Government 
who  got  in  touch  with  you  concerning  the  making  of  this  film. 

Mr.  Warner.  Well,  I  don't  think  Mr.  Davies  was  in  the  Government  then.  He 
was  then  ex-Ambassador  to  Russia  and  almost  everything  was  dealt  tlirough  him. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  anyone  in  the  State  Department  get  in  touch  with  you  or  not? 

Mr.  Warner.  No.  I  don't  know.  Not  to  my  knowledge.  No  one  here  or  in 
New  York. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  anyone  in  the  White  House  get  in  touch  with  you? 

Mr.  Warner.  No,  not  directly  in  touch ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Not  directly  in  touch? 

Mr.  WABNEm.  Do  you  mean  did  anyone  in  the  White  House  say  we  should 
make  the  film  for  reasons  along  those  lines? 

Mr.  Thomas.  Directly  or  indirectly? 

Mr.  WiUiNER.  Well,  as  I  understood  at  the  time  through  Mr.  Davies  that  he  had 
contacted  the  White  House  and  for  all  of  the  reasons  I  recited  it  was  good  for 
the  defense  and  for  the  prosecution  of  the  war  to'  keep  the  Russians  in  there 
figliting  until  the  proper  time  when  the  United  States  and  Britain  could  organize, 
in  other  words,  give  us  time  to  pi'epare. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Let's  have  the  date  you  started  producing  that  film. 

Mr.  Warner.  We  started  November  9,  1942. 

Mr.  Thomas.  And  you  completed  production  when? 

Mr.  Warner.  On  February  2,  1943.     It  took  a  little  under  4  months. 

Mr.  Stripijng.  That  is  rather  a  quick  production,  isn't  it? 

Mr.  Warneoi.  No ;  that  was  about  the  usual  length  of  time.  They  are  usually 
8  or  10  weeks. 

Mr.  Stripling.  From  a  commercial  standpoint  the  film  was  not  very  successful, 
was  it? 

Mr.  Warner.  No ;  it  was  not  exceptionally  successful.  It  was  not  successful 
to  any  great  degree.     It  did  very  good  at  first. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  mean  from  what  I  lieard.  In  fact,  there  has  been  testimony 
it  was  not  very  successful. 

IMr.  Warner.  No ;  I  would  not  call  it  very  successful.  Commercially  it  wasn't 
exceedingly  successful ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  there  is  one  question  which  I  think  the  subcom- 
mittee would  like  to  have  cleared  up  and  I  think  that  you  as  a  studio  executive, 
could  probably  give  them  some  information  about  it. 

That  testimony,  Mr.  Chairman,  does  not  deal  with  Mission  to 
Moscow. 

I  would  like  to  skip  over  to  the  next  page,  which  picks  it  up  again 
[reading]  : 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  you  had  not  been  approached  by  Mr.  Davies  or  by  anyone  in 
the  Government  indirectly  it  would  have  been  very  likely  that  you  would  not 
have  filmed  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  we  would  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  think  the  writers  are  the  most  important  people  in  this  investi- 
gation.    I  believe  you  mentioned  Koch. 

Mr.  Warner.  Howard  Koch. 

Mr.  Warxer.  Pardon  me,  yon  missed  some  very  important  infor- 
mation here. 

ISIr.  Stripling.  I  am  sorry. 

Mr.  Warxer.  You  said  the  next  page,  and  you  skipped  a  page. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  am  .sorry,  Mr.  Warner,  I  clid. 

Mr.  Warner.  If  you  will  go  back  to  page  28  you  will  find  it  refers — 
oh,  yes;  at  the  bottom  of  page  27  [reading]  : 

Mr.  Wariter. — 

this  is  myself  speaking — 

I  was  going  to  say  something  about  that  after  I  recited  some  of  the  chronological 
events  of  the  war  in  order  to  confirm  my  feeling  for  the  reasons  that  the  Gov- 


36  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

eriiment  was  interested  in  tlie  making  of  the  pieture.  This  is  one  of  the  reasons. 
I  am  not  here  to  defend  tiie  (lovernnient  hecause  that  is  their  business. 

Mr.  Thomas.  We  will  he  glad  to  have  it. 

Mr.  VVaknkr.  When  the  Germans  were  halted  at  Stalingrad,  that  was  one  of 
the  things  Mr.  Davies  told  my  brother,  that  it  was  essential  to  keep  the  Russians 
in  there — 

Mr.  Thomas  said  "pitching,"  and  I  replied: 

*  *  *  pitching  to  give  our  country  a  chance  to  arm.  the  Navy,  the  Army, 
airpower,  and  everything  else,  which  we  were  not  prepared  for  at  the  time,  and  of 
course  history  ha.s  told  the  story. 

And  I  want  to  introdnce  the  front  pages  of  a  New  York  newspaper, 
starting  with  the  day  following  Pearl  Harbor,  December  8,  1941,  right 
np  to  December  30,  1942,  which  gives  a  very  vivid  history  of  the 
process  of  the  war  by  the  Russians. 

The  Ctiairman.  How  many  pages  are  there,  Mr.  Warner? 

]\Ir.  Warner.  I  am  going  to  read  them. 

The  Chairman.  No.     How  many  are  there? 

Mr.  WARNf:R,  There  are  about  25 — just  papers. 

The  Chairman.  We  will  take  that  as  an  exhibit." 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  that  the  chroiiological  statement  which  you  gave 
to  the  committee? 

Mr.  Warner,  It  is,  to  one  degree  or  another.  And  I  have  a  copy 
of  the  chronological  statement,  too.  I  will  give  you  another  one, 
if  you  want, 

Mr,  Stripling.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warner.  But  this  tells  the  story  of  Russia's  distress,  Russia 
getting  beaten. 

The  Chairman,  We  will  be  glad  to  receive  those  as  an  exhibit. 

Go  ahead  with  the  questioning,  Mr,  Stripling, 

]\Ir,  Stripling.  Now,  Howard  Koch  wrote  the  script  for  Missior 
to  Moscow  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes ;  he  did. 

Mr.  Stripling,  Was  Howard  Koch  one  of  those  writers  whom  you 
.subsequently  dismissed? 

Mr,  Warner.  Let  us  get  it  correct,  I  never  dismissed  anyone  for 
any  activity.     His  contract  expired  and  we  didn't  renew  his  contract. 

Mr,  Stripling.  You  haven't  employed  him  since? 

Mr,  Warner,  We  didn't  make  a  new  deal  with  him, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  when  the  picture  Mission  to  Moscow  was 
made,  were  you  aware  that  there  were  certain  historical  events 
which  were  erroneously  portrayed  in  the  picture? 

Mr,  Warner.  I  stated  the  only  historical  events  that  I  know,  by 
claim  of  many  people — the  press  and  public,  in  general — were  the 
trials  of  the  purge,  or  whatever  they  called  it  at  the  time  in  the  book, 
which  was  condensed. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner 

Mr.'  Warner.  I  told  you,  I  don't  know  if  it  Avas  all  correct  or  not. 

Mr,  Stripling,   Yes, 

Mr.  Warner,   Mr,  Davies  was 

Mr,  Stripling,  The  ])oint  is  this,  Mr,  Warner,  that  here  was  a 
picture  which  was  produced  and  shown  to  the  American  people,  and 
it  was  shown  in  other  countries,  I  presume,  was  it  not? 


'  See  appendix,  p.  523,  for  exhibit  8. 


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Mr.  Warnkr.  I  tliink  it  was  shown  in  England  and  several  other 
countries. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  was  also  shown  in  Moscow,  to  Mr.  Stalin  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  In  Moscow  and  to  Stalin ;  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Here  is  a  picture,  however,  which  portrayed  Russia 
and  the  Government  of  Russia  in  an  entirely  different  light  from  what 
it  actually  was? 

Mr.  Warner.  1  don't  know  if  you  can  prove  it,  or  that  I  can  prove 
that  it  was. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  would  like  to  read  one  quotation.  I  have  here, 
Mr.  Chairman,  a  book  entitled  "The  Curtain  Rises,"  by  Quentin 
Reynolds 

Air.  Warner.  What  year  was  that  published  in  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.   Copyrighted  in  1944. 

Mr.  Warner.  Well,  I  had  nothing  to  do  with  Russia  in  1944.  I 
want  no  part  of  it.  I  am  not  interested — unless  you  want  to  put  it  in 
the  record — in  what  happened  then.  That  book  ended  in  1937,  when 
ex-Ambassador  Davies  returned  here. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mi'.  Reynolds  qualifies  himself  as  being  a  Moscow 
correspondent. 

Mr.  Warner.  He  wasn't  there  in  1937. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute,  Mr.  Warner.  Let  Mr.  Stripling 
continue. 

Mr.  Stripling.  On  page  80,  he  says  [reading]  : 

June  8:  Joseph  E.  Davies  left  today  after  a  2-week  visit  wliich  has  left  us 
bewildered.  Mr.  Davies  said  that  he  had  come  mei-ely  to  deliver  a  letter  to 
Stalin.  Although  he  didn't  say  what  the  letter  contained,  we  are  all  convinced 
that  it  was  a  suggestion  from  President  Roosevelt,  that  he,  Stalin,  and  Churchill 
meet.  What  bewilders  us  (and  we  are  sure  bewilders  Stalin)  is  the  fact 
that  the  President  has  sent  Mr.  Davies  to  deliver  the  letter.  Our  Embassy  is 
just  across  the  street  from  the  Kremlin  and  Ambassador  Standley  is  never  too 
busy  to  walk  over  to  the  Kremlin  with  a  letter. 

Ihere  was  a  distinct  Hollywood  tinge  to  the  Davies  visit.  The  huge  DC-4 
whi(h  brought  Davies  to  Moscow  must  weigh  about  56,0C0  pounds.  It  had  a 
crack  crew  of  nine  men.  Mr.  Davies  brought  his  nephew  witli  him  to  act  as 
his  secretary  (his  nephew  is  Lieutenant  Stamm,  a  naval  officer).  Mr.  Davies 
brought  his  former  valet  with  him  to  supervise  the  preparation  of  his  food  (his 
former  valet  is  now  a  corporal  in  the  United  States  Army).  Mr.  Davies  brought 
his  personal  physician  with  him,  a  necessary  precaution  because  Mr.  Davies  is 
not  in  good  health.  We  all  admired  the  courage  of  Mr.  Davies  in  undertaking 
a  very  difficult  16.000-mile  trip  by  air.  No  one  here  questiros.  picture.  Mission  to  Moscow,  with  him.  Stalin 
tendered  a  dinner  to  Mr.  Davies  at  the  Kremlin  a  few  days  after  his  arrival.  It 
was  a  typical  Kremlin  show  reserved  for  visiting  big  sliots  with  the  usual  20 
or  so  courses  and  30  or  so  toasts.  The  press,  of  course,  is  never  permitted 
to  breathe  the  rarified  air  of  Kremlin  dinners,  but  our  friends  in  the  various 
embassies  always  give  us  accurate  reports  of  sucli  dinners.  To  us  the  real  big 
news  of  the  dinner  was  the  fact  that  Nikolai  Palgunov  attended.  That  meant 
that  he  was  still  in  high  favor.  We  had  been  hi>ping  that  liis  efficiency  and 
poor  judgment  would  by  now  have  percolated  up  to  the  sacro.sanct  presence  of 
Vishinsky  or  Moloiov  and  that  he  might  be  on  his  way  out.  The  fact  that  he 
was  at  the  dinner  meant  that  he  was  still  the  white-haired  boy  in  the  press 
department  of  the  foreign  office,  which  is  the  pressing  news  for  us.  The  other 
news  was  that  the  film,  Mission  to  Moscow,  was  shown  in  Stalin's  private  pro- 
jection room  after  the  dinner.     Some  of  the  British  and  Americans  who  have 


38  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

been  here  for  many,  many  years,  and  who  re;illy  know  Russia,  told  us  that 
Stalin  gave  a  magnificent  performance  during  the  showing  of  the  picture. 

"Walter  Huston  was  fine,"  a  British  member  of  the  diplomatic  corps  told  us, 
"but  he  couldn't  compare  with  Stalin.  Do  you  know  that  Stalin  kept  a  straight 
face  througliout  the  showing?    He  didn't  laugh  once." 

A  few  days  later  the  film  was  sliown  at  our  embassy  at  one  of  the  usual 
Saturday  afternoon  shows.  It  was  a  beautiful  technical  job  and  the  perform- 
ances of  the  character  actors  who  figured  in  the  trial  scenes  were  especially 
magnificent.  But  the  film  portrayed  a  Russia  that  none  of  us  had  ever  seen. 
This  would  have  been  all  right  except  that  the  picture  purported  to  be  factual 
and  the  Russia  shown  in  the  film  had  as  much  relation  to  the  Russia  we  all 
know  as  Shangri-la  would  have  to  the  real  Tibet. 

Correspondents  like  Henry  Shapiro,  Jean  Champenois,  and  Alfred  Cholerton 
who  had  been  in  Moscow  for  many  years  were  bewildered.  The  film  had  tele- 
scoped two  purge  trials  into  one  and  had  not  presented  them  with  any  degree 
of  accuracy;  no  fault,  of  course,  in  a  picture  which  did  not  claim  to  be  factual. 
But  this  picture  did.  We  all  had  copies  (in  English)  of  the  testimony  given 
at  the  trials  and  it  varied  considerably  from  what  was  shown  on  the  sci-een. 
In  the  actual  trials  Radek's  had  been  impassioned  and  brilliant  and  Bukharin's 
vituperative  come-backs  at  Prosecutor  Vishinsky's  expense  masterpieces  of  in- 
vective. The  Warner  Bros.'  or  Davies'  version  differed  considerably.  In  the 
film  Radek  is  condemned  to  death.  Actually  he  was  sentenced  to  10  years' 
imprisonment. 

The  veteian  diplomats  were  also  astounded  at  the  treatment  given  Lord 
Chislen  in  the  picture.  Chislen  was  British  Ambassador  to  Russia  during  Mr. 
Davies'  tenure  of  the  American  ambassadorship.  In  the  film  he  was  made  out 
to  be  a  half-wit.  Veteran  embassy  officials  and  correspondents  couldn't  under- 
stand that  at  all. 

"Litvinov  once  told  me  during  those  days,"  a  correspondent  said,  "that  there 
were  only  two  foreign  diplomats  in  Moscow  he  had  any  respect  for.  They  were 
Chislen  and  the  German  Ambassador  Von  Schulenberg." 

We  were  all  frankly  embarrassed  by  the  picture.  I  was  especially  amazed 
because  I  know  the  Warner  Bros,  and  their  brilliant  staff  that  so  faithfully 
mirrored  the  careers  of  men  like  Dr.  Erlich,  Pasteur,  Zola,  and  others  whom  they 
made  sub.iects  of  pictures.  It  was  hard  to  believe  that  they  had  made  this 
factually  incorrect  film.  It  would  have  been  so  easy  for  Warner  Bros,  to  have 
called  in  any  correspondent  who  had  spent  some  time  in  Russia  to  check  up 
on  factual  details.  If  the  purpose  of  the  picture  was  to  improve  relations  be- 
tween America  and  Russia  it  was  completely  defeated  by  the  obvious  inaccur- 
acies shown  on  the  screen.  It  was  such  a  pity  that  no  one  with  any  knowledge 
of  Russia  was  called  in  to  advise  on  the  story.  It  could  have  been  a  great 
picture  and  an  honest  one. 

I  met  one  of  the  officials  of  Vox  the  day  after  the  picture  was  shown  to  us. 
Vox  passes  on  all  foreign  pictures  before  they  are  shown  in  Russia.  I  asked 
him  if  Mission  to  Moscow  would  be  released  to  the  public. 

"Well,"  he  hesitated,  "we'd  like  to  release  it  but,  of  course,"  he  added  in  perfect 
seriousness,  "we  have  to  cvit  a  great  deal  of  the  Russian  parts  out  of  it." 

Have  yoii  ever  seen  that  statement  which  appeared  in  Reynolds' 
book? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  it  is  the  first  time  I  ever  knew  that  Mr.  Reynolds 
had  been  in  Russia  or  wrote  a  book,  and  if  he  did  it  is  his  own  personal 
opinion.  I  have  nothing  to  say  other  than  Reynolds  speaks  of  1944. 
Our  picture,  under  the  guidance  of  Mr.  Joseph  E.  Davies,  speaks  up 
to  and  including  his  leaving  of  the  Embassy  in  Russia  in  1937.  Again, 
I  have  little  or  nothing  to  comment.  I  know  nothing  about  it,  other 
than  what  you  have  just  read. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  is  it  your  opinion  now,  Mr,  Warner,  that 
Mission  to  Moscow  was  a  factually  correct  picture,  and  you  made  it 
as  such  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  can't  remember. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  consider  it  a  propaganda  picture? 

Mr.  Warner.  A  propaganda  picture 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  39 

Mr.  Warner.  In  what  sense? 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  the  sense  that  it  portrayed  Russia  and  com- 
munism in  an  entirely  different  light  from  what  it  actually  was  ? 

Mr.  Warnp:r.  I  am  on  record  about  40  times  or  more  that  I  have 
never  been  in  Russia.  I  don't  know  what  Russia  was  like  in  1937  or 
1944  or  1947,  so  how  can  I  tell  you  if  it  was  right  or  w^rong? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Don't  you  think  you  were  on  dangerous  ground  to 
produce  as  a  factually  correct  picture  one  which  portrayed  Russia 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  we  were  not  on  dangerous  ground  in  1942,  when 
we  produced  it.     There  was  a  war  on.     The  world  was  at  stake. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words 

Mr.  Warner.  We  made  the  film  to  aid  in  the  war  effort,  which  I 
believe  I  have  already  stated. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Whether  it  was  true  or  not? 

Mr.  Warner.  As  far  as  I  was  concerned,  I  considered  it  true  to  the 
extent  as  written  in  INIr.  Davies'  book. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  do  you  suppose  that  your  picture  influenced 
the  people  who  saw  it  in  this  country,  the  millions  of  people  who  saw 
it  in  this  country? 

Mr.  Warner.  In  my  opinion,  I  can't  see  how  it  would  influence  any- 
one. We  were  in  war  and  when  you  are  in  a  fight  you  don't  ask  who 
the  fellow  is  who  is  helping  you. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  due  to  the  present  conditions  in  the  interna- 
tional situation,  don't  3^011  think  it  was  rather  dangerous  to  write  about 
such  a  disillusionment  as  was  sought  in  that  picture? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  can't  understand  why  you  ask  me  that  question,  as 
to  the  present  conditions.  How  did  I,  you,  or  anyone  else  know  in 
1942  what  the  conditions  were  going  to  be  in  1947.  I  stated  in  my 
testimony  our  reason  for  making  the  picture,  which  was  to  aid  the  war 
effort — anticipating  what  would  happen. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  don't  see  that  that  is  aiding  the  war  effort,  Mr. 
Warner — with  the  cooperation  of  Mr.  Davies  or  with  the  approval  of 
the  Government —  to  make  a  picture  which  is  a  fraud  in  fact. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  want  to  correct  you,  very  vehemently.  There  was 
no  cooperation  of  the  Government. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  stated  there  was. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  never  stated  the  Government  cooperated  in  the 
making  of  it.     If  t  did,  I  stand  corrected.     And  I  know  I  didn't. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  want  me  to  read  that  part,  Mr.  Chairman? 

The  Chairman.  No;  I  think  we  have  gone  into  this  Mission  to 
Moscow  at  some  length. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  like  to  go  into  it  at  great  length,  in  order 
to  make  the  Warner  Bros.'  position  to  the  American  public  clear,  as 
to  why  we  made  the  film.  You  couldn't  be  more  courageous,  to  help 
the  war  effort,  than  we.  Certainly  there  are  inaccuracies  in  every- 
thing. I  have  seen  a  million  books — using  a  big  term — and  there  have 
been  inaccuracies  in  the  text.  There  can  be  inaccuracies  in  anything, 
especially  in  a  creative  art.     As  I  said,  we  condensed  the  trials 

The  Chairman.  We  only  have  5  minutes  this  morning.  Can  w^e 
finish  wnth  Mr.  Warner  this  morning? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 
If  you  would  like  some  qualified  reviewer  who  has  seen  the  picture  to 
give  the  committee 


40  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman.  That  ma}-  come  at  a  later  date. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  ask  that  the  complete  testimony  of  Mr.  Warner 
[before  the  sulwonnnittee  on  Un-  American  Activities  on  May  15,  1947, 
Iieard  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif.]  be  included  in  the  record  at  this  point. 

The  Chairman.  So  ordered. 

(The  testimony  of  ]SIr.  Jack  L.  Warner  is  as  follows :) 

Testimony  of  Jack  L.  Wakxki: 

(The  witness  was  first  duly  sworu.) 

Mr.  Thoma.s.  Mr.  Stripling,  you  may  take  the  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Warner,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  present  address, 
please? 

Mr.  Warner.  My  name  is  Jack  L.  Warner.  Do  you  want  my  business  or  home 
address? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Your  business  address. 

Mr.  Warner.  Warner  Bros.  Studio,  Burbank,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Warner? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  was  born  in  London,  Ontario,  Canada. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  vice  president  of  Warner  Bros.  Pictures,  Inc.,  and  I  am  in 
charge  of  production  of  films  at  our  studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  Since  1912.  It  was  about  1912.  I  went  to  San  Francisco  and 
came  here  in  1912. 

Mr.  Stripling.  This  is  a  subcommittee  of  the  Committee  on  Un-Aiuerican  Activi- 
ties of  the  United  States  House  of  Representatives.  It  is  sitting  here  in  Los 
Angeles  to  receive  any  testimony,  evidence,  or  opinion  concerning  Communist 
influences  or  infiltration  into  the  motion-picture  industry.  The  committee  in 
Washington  has  received  during  the  past  4  months  many  requests  to  investigate 
Communist"  activities.  The  subcommittee  is  here  for  the  purpose  of  determining 
whether  or  not  these  allegations  deserve  or  require  a  full-scale  investigation. 
As  a  motion-picture  executive,  you  have  been  invited  here  by  the  subcommittee 
to  give  them  the  benefit  of  your  views  or  any  information  you  might  have  rehiting 
to  this  subject.  You  can  either  give  a  general  statement  if  you  like,  or  if  you  prefer 
we  will  ask  you  questions. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  think  I  would  prefer  questions. 

Mr.  P.  Blayney  IMatthews.  Do  you  want  to  read  that  statement? 

Mr.  Warner.  At  this  point  I  have  a  statement  that  I  have  given  to  the  press 
and  it  was  run  virtually  verbatim,  of  my  views,  my  brother's,  or  the  company's, 
being  the  views  as  I  see  them  of  the  motion-picture  industry. 

Mr.  Thomas.  When  was  that  statement  given  to  the  press? 

Mr.  Matthews.  April  21. 

Mr.  Warner.  Just  a  couple  of  weeks  ago. 

Mr.  Thomas.  How  long  a  statement  is  it? 

Mr.  Warner.  It  is  very  short. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  can  go  ahead  and  read  it. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  will  leave  it  with  the  reporter.  This  statement  was  released  for 
the  press  Monday,  April  21,  1947,  announcing  production  of  the  picture  Up  Until 
Now. 

Backslid  Americans,  as  well  as  outside  enemies  of  our  free  institutions,  will 
be  exposed  in  this  story  of  a  Boston  family.  Here  at  Warner  Bros,  we  have  no 
room  for  backslid  Americans  and  wishy-washy  concepts  of  Americanism.  We 
believe  that  our  films  must  reflect  positive  Americanism  founded  on  the  funda- 
mental principles  of  the  Declaration  of  Independence,  our  Constitution,  and  our 
Bill  of  Rights. 

Up  Until  Now  will  not  be  a  "middle  of  the  road"  picture  about  democracy.  We 
do  not  believe  democracy  has  middle  lanes,  left  detours,  or  right  alleys.  The 
great  highway  of  American  liberty  is  sufficiently  broad  and  straight  for  all  to 
travel  in  peace,  prosperity,  and  happiness. 

Up  Until  Now  is  but  another  chapter  in  our  war  against  threats  to  American 
democracy.  It  is  not  the  opening  gun  by  40  years.  It  will  not  be  a  single  bar- 
rage. We  are  working  on  other  topical  stories  to  combat  any  insidious  influ- 
ence that  threatens  our  country.  We  will  shoot  them  as  rapidly  as  they  are 
ready  for  production. 


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From  the  cliiy  it  was  founded  under  the  same  management  that  now  exists, 
Warner  Bros,  has  been  wholly  dedicated  to  the  system  of  government  that  has 
made  the  American  way  of  life  a  shining  example  to  peoples  throughout  the 
world. 

We  have  been  aggressive  in  our  defense  of  that  way  of  life  because  we  feel 
we  must  crusade  for  the  things  in  which  Americans  believe.  We  are  happy  that 
other  motion-picture  producers  are  joining  in  the  aggressive  course  Warner 
Bros,  has  pioneered,  and  we  hope  still  others  will  follow.  We  cannot  combat 
the  enemies  of  freedom  by  closing  our  eyes,  shutting  our  ears,  aud  sealing  our 
mouths.  It's  better  to  fight  with  words,  pictures,  and  ballots  than  with  guns, 
atomic  bombs,  and  poison  gas.     American  needs  awakening. 

The  backsliders,  the  in-betweeners,  and  the  straddlers  are  too  content  to  drift 
with  the  dangerous  tides  the  subvei-sive  elements  are  stirring.  Aud  too  many 
sound-to-the-core  Americans  are  thoughtlessly  ignoring  those  tides.  We've  got 
to  jar  ourselves  into  alert  awareness  of  what  is  going  on. 

This  company  has  endeavored  with  all  the  means  at  its  disposal  to  keep 
America  alert  against  the  loss  of  liberties  which,  if  lost,  must  be  redeemed  in 
blood.  Through  topical  entertainment  features  and  short  subjects  we  have  retold 
the  lessons  so  simply  and  clearly  expounded  in  the  three  great  basic  documents 
of  our  Government.  Through  the  same  media,  we  have  warned  of  dangers 
ahead. 

One  of  our  first  major  feature  pictui'es,  My  Four  Years  in  Germany,  based  on 
the  experiences  of  former  Ambassador  James  Gerard,  was  inspired  by  the  dangers 
facing  our  Nation  in  World  War  I.  A  short  generation  later  we  were  first  to 
warn  of  another  and  greater  peril  in  Confessions  of  a  Natzi  Spy. 

During  the  tragically  brief  interim  between  our  two  World  Wars  we  made  the 
short  historical  films  based  on  the  Declaration  of  Independence,  the  Constitution, 
and  the  Bill  of  Rights.  Our  feature  films  before  and  during  World  War  II  in- 
cluded, among  many  others,  the  inspiring  life  stories  of  such  great  Americans 
as  Sgt.  Alvin  York,  Knute  Rockne,  Mark  Twain,  and  George  M.  Cohan.  At  the 
same  time  we  were  filming  I  Am  a  Fugitive  From  a  Chain  Gang,  Black  Fury, 
Black  Legion,  and  other  pictures  which  exposed  various  evils  threatening  the 
American  way  of  life. 

During  the  war  period  Warner  Bros,  film  production  was  dedicated  to  the  cause 
of  Alliem.  As  I  recall,  that  was  aimed  at  the  capitalistic  system — 
not  exactly,  but  the  rich  man  is  always  the  villain.  Of  course  those  fellows  getting 
two  or  three  thousand  dollars  a  week  aren't  rich  men.  I  don't  know  what  you 
would  call  theni>.     Roth  of  those  fellows  work  together.     They  are  never  separated. 

Tl.e  rest  of  them  are  a  lot  of  comedies:  Yankee  Doodle  Dandy,  The  Man  Who 
Came  to  Dinner,  Arsenic  and  Old  Lace,  Strawberry  lilonde,  Four  Mothers — a;l 
of  those  pictures  are  comedies  and  there  is  no  taint  of  conuniniism  in  them. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Off  the  record. 

Mr.  Warner.   I  would  like  to  put  in  the  record  a  few  more  names. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warner.  Clifford  Odets  in  Humoresque.  You  .see,  tiiis  was  way  ba<'k  in 
in.37— 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  about  Humoresque;  isn't  that  a  i-ecent  release? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes.  That  was  written  by  Clit'ford  Odets.  It  was  a  story  which 
we  modernized  from  llie  old  Fannie  Hurst  novel.  In  that  picture  there  was  no 
con  nnuiistic  jjropaganda.  I  have  even  written  tlie  words  down  here.  It  is  the 
old  story.  There  is  one  line  where  the  boy  was  mad.  John  Gariield  played  the 
part  of  the  boy  and  he  was  mas,  or  whatever  they  are.  Y(m 
saw  how  they  came  in,  by  revolution  in  Russia,  or  however  these  things  happen. 
P.ut  in  reading:  these  hundreds  of  scripts  which  I  do  read  and  I  buy  p'ays  and 
books  and  novels — it  all  started  to  come  to  me  and  tliat  is  tl)e  thins  I  watcli  for 
most  earnestly.  That  is  iiow  tliey  jiet  in.  If  you  will  watch  the  films  you  will 
find  that  is  what  happens. 

Now.  take  the  pictures  made  durinii'  the  war,  the  pictures  to  aid  the  victory  of 
the  Allies  or  the  United  Nations.  We  have  no  apologies  to  make  for  any  of  those 
films  that  we  made.  They  were  made  by  us  and  we  thought  it  was  tlio  riglit  thing 
to  do  to  aid  the  war  effort,  and  we  never  had  any  rebuffs  from  anyone.  In  fact, 
we  were  asked  to  make  pictures  from  time  to  time  by  different  departments. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  asked  to  make  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  say  we  were  to  a  degree.  Vou  can  put  it  in  that  way 
in  one  form  or  another. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Wlio  asked  you  to  nuike  ^Mission  to  AIoscow'/ 

Mr.  Wau.xf.r.   I  would  say  tlie  former  Ambassador  Davies. 

Mr.  Tiio.MAS.  He  asked  you  to  make  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  WAijNKR.  At  tlie  time  and  lie  recites  why.  I  brouglit  a  small  resume  of  it 
.when  we  entered  into  the  agi'eement.  and  so  forth,  with  the  events  of  the  war 
in  the  early  part  of  1942.     They  are  all  put  in  chronological  order  here. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  Mr.  Davies  come  to  Hollywood  to  see  you  relative  to  the 
making  of  Mission  to  Moscow  or  did  you  confer  with  him  at  any  time  about  it 
in  person 'y 

Mr.  Warner.  I  conferred  with  liim  in  W^•lshington  and  we  made  tlie  deal  in 
the  East,  in  New  Yoi'k  or  Washington,  I  have  forgotten  which.  But  he  did  come 
here  when  the  tilm  was  being  produced  and  he  also  acted  in  an  advisory  capacity 
throughout  the  makirg  of  the  film.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  he  appeared  in  a  slight 
prologue  of  the  picture. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Don't  you  consider  very  frankly  that  the  film  Mission  to  Moscow 
was  in  some  vs-ays  a  misinterpretation  of  the  facts  of  the  existing  conditions? 

Mr.  Warner.  Of  the  time,  you  mean? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes. 

Mr.  Warner.  In  1942? 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words,  certain  historical  incidents  which  were  por- 
trayed in  the  film  were  not  true  to  fact? 

Mr.  Warnir.  Well,  all  I  could  go  b.v — I  read  the  novel  and  spoke  to  Mr.  Davies 
on  m;iny,  many  occasions.  I  had  to  take  his  word  that  they  were  the  facts. 
He  had  pulilished  tlie  novel  and  we  were  criticized  severely  b.v  the  press  in,  New 
York  and  elsewhere.  As  I  remember,  it  was  started  up  by  this  Profes.sor  Dewey 
from  Columbia  University.  P'rom  what  I  read  and  heard,  he  was  a  Trotskyite 
and  they  were  the  ones  who  ol'jected  mostly  to  this  tilm  because  of  Lenin  versus 
Trotsk.v 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  Dr.  John  Dewey? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes.  That  is  what  I  read.  He  made  statements  in  the  New 
York  Times  which  were  as  long  as  the  paper  was,  but  as  to  the  actual  facts,  if  they 
weren't  portr.-i.ved  Muthentically — I  never  was  in  Russia  myself  and  I  don't  know 
what  they  were  doing  in  T.M2.  other  than  seeing  the  events  of  the  battles  for 
S'talingr.-id  and  .Moscow,  which  we  all  saw  in  the  films  and  read  about.  But  I 
talked  to  .Mr.  Davies  about  that  after  we  were  criticized,  and  there  is  only  one 
Ihi-ig  that  happiiis  which  is  a  license,  what  we  call  condensation  in  the  making 
of  films.  We  put  the  two  trials  in  one  and  the  two  trials  were  condensed  because 
if  yon  ran  the  two  trials  it  wcmld  go  on  for  20  reels.  I  persoiuilly  did  not  con- 
sider that  fihu  i)ro-Communist  at  the  time. 

.Mr.  Thomas,   .\ow.  it  is  1947.     Do  you  think  it  is  pro-Communist  now? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  I  would  have  to  think  over.  L  "t  me  pause  for  a  minute  and 
ask  you  a  question  or  two,  if  you  don't  mind.  You  mean  by  saying  rliat  the  type 
of  scenes  shown  in  that  film  today  would  that  make  tln^  picture  pro-Ci>nunuiMst, 
is  that  if 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  said  in  1942. 

..Mr.  Warner.   It  was  made  in  J942. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  did  not  believe  it  was  pro-Communist. 

Mr.  W.ABNEB.  No;  we  were  at  war  at  That  time. 

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Mr.  Thomas.  Now,  it  is  1947.    Do  .vou  believe  it  is  pro-Communist? 

Mr.  Sntii'LiNG.  Would  you  release  the  film  now,  in  other  words? 

Mr.  Wakner.  No,  we  would  not  release  the  film  now. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Why  not  release  the  film  now? 

Mr.  Warneb.  Because  of  the  way  Russia  is  handling  their  international  affairs 
since  the  ces.sation  of  the  war.  I  consider  in  my  opinion  as  an  American  that  the.y 
are  advocating  communism  throughout  tlie  world  and  I  am  not  in  any  shape, 
manner,  or  form  in  favor  of  anything  like  that.  In  fact,  I  de.spise  and  detest  the 
ver.v  word. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  say  Mr.  Da  vies  got  in  touch  with  you.  He  was  the  first  one  to 
get  in  touch  with  you  about  the  idea  of  producing  this  film,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Warner.  At  the  time  I  can't  remember  if  he  contacted  us,  or  my  brother 
who  was  in  New  York  contacted  Mr.  Davies.  I  can't  say  who  contacted  whom,  but 
I  know  that  we  went  ahead  with  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Did  any  other  person  in  the  Government  contact  either  you  or 
your  brother  in  connection  with  producing  Mission  to  Moscow? 

Mr.  Warner.  Not  to  my  knowledge,  no. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  about  the  State  Department? 

Mr.  Warner.  You  mean  anyone  in  the  State  Department  that  asked  us  to 
make  it? 

Mr.  STRiPLrNG.  Were  they  consulted  in  any  way  in  this  film,  or  did  they  consult 
with  you? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  am  trying  to  think  hard  who 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  am  being  very  trank,  Mr.  Warner. 

Mr.  Warner.  If  you  will  give  me  a  couple  of  minutes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  be  very  frank  with  you.  The  charge  is  often  made  and 
many  statements  have  been  made  to  the  committee  to  the  effect  that  Mission  to 
Moscow  was  made  at  the  request  of  our  Government  as  a  so-called  appea.sement  or 
pap  to  the  Russians  ;  in  other  words,  it  was  produced  at  the  request  of  tlie  Govern- 
ment.   Now,  is  such  a  statement  without  foundation? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  see  what  you  mean.  No,  it  is  not  without  foundation.  That  is 
why  I  am  very  liappy  you  put  it  that  wa,v.  In  order  to  answer  tliat  question  cor- 
rectly, I  would  say  there  were  rumors  and  many  stories  to  tlie  cffc'ct  that  if 
Stalingrad  fell  Stalin  would  again  join  up  with  Hitler  because,  naturally,  the 
way  the  stories  were  that  far  back,  during  the  hardest  days  of  the  war,  from  wiiat 
I  could  get  out  of  it,  is  that  the  authorities  in  Washington  who  were  conducting 
the  war  were  afraid  if  Stalin  would  take  up  with  Hitler  they  would  destroy  ihe 
world,  not  only  continental  Europe  and  Russia,  but  Japan  and  everything  else. 
And  we  know  what  the  scheme  of  things  was,  that  the  Jayis  and  Germans  were  to 
meet  in  India  or  Egypt,  I  forget  just  which. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Do  you  mean  to  say  some  of  the  Government  officials  in  Wash- 
ingti>n  informed  you  that  they  were  fearful  that  Stalin  might  hook  up  with 
Hitler? 

Mr.  Warner.  No  ;  but  that  was  the  tenor  of  things.  It  would  be  pretty  hard  for 
me  to  say  that  someone  told  me  that,  but  that  was  just  the  general  feeling  in 
Washington.     Every  time  I  would  go  there  that  would  be  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Mr.  Stripling  asked  a  question  that  I  don't  think  we  have  had 
an  answer  to  yet. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I>et  me  state  further,  Mr.  Chairman,  it  lias  also  been  charged 
that  this  film  had  the  tacit  approval,  if  not  the  request,  of  the  White  House. 

Mr.  Warner,  was  there  anything  that  occurred  prior  to  the  production  of  this 
film  which  led  you  to  believe  that  the  (Tovernment,  the  Federal  Government,  de- 
sired that  this  film  be  made  as  a  contribution  to  the  war  effort.  In  other  words, 
what  1  want  to  make  clear,  there  is  no  desire  on  the  part  of  the  sul>committee 
to  put  you  or  your  company  on  the  spot  for  making  Mission  to  ^Moscow,  but  if  it 
was  made,  as  in  other  films,  at  the  request  of  the  Government  as  a- so-called 
jiatriotic  duty,  you  would  have  no  other  course  to  follow  and  you  would  natu- 
rall.v  he  expected  to  do  so. 

Mr.  Warner.  The  general  feeling  as  I  found  it  in  Washington  was  a  tre- 
mendous fear  tiuit  Stalin  might  go  back  with  Hitler  because  he  had  done  it 
before. 

Mr.  Thomas.  No.  Wliat  we  want  to  get  at  is  the  reason,  not  the  general 
feelings. 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes,  but  I  am  just  going  to  come  back  to  that. 

Mr.  Thomas.  All  right. 

Mr.  Warner.  The  Russians  \^'ere  very  discouraged  and  they  figured  that  the 
United  States  was  not  going  to  back  them  up  with  lend-lease  and  so  on  and  so 


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forth  in  suflScient  quantities  to  beat  Hitler,  which  was  very,  very  important  to 
eople  engage  them. 

Mr.  Thomas.  That  is  what  we  would  like  to  know. 

Mr.  WARNFJt.  I  can't  fathom  it,  to  save  my  life. 

Mr.  Thomas.  But  we  want  to  know  liow  you  are  going  to  correct  the  situation. 
Do  you  think  they  will  keep  on  engaging  them  and  keep  on  doing  this  until,  the 
iirst  thing  you  know,  the  industry  gets  a  black  eye,  or  will  they  ultimately  get 
religion  as  you  have  got  religion? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  like  to  correct  that  statement.  I  didn't  get  religion.  I 
have  always  been  that  way — an  American. 

Mr.  Thomas.  I  didn't  mean  that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Become  aware  of  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  By  religion  I  meant  you  have  become  aware  of  the  danger. 

Mr.  Warner.  Of  the  danger ;  that  is  correct. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Will  they  become  aware  or  not  become  aware  and  the  industry 
get  a  black  eye':" 

Mr.  Warnek.  I  can  say  this  for  the  industry :  They  are  all  good  Americans,  but 
some  of  them  look  upon  this  type  of  man  drawing  a  big  salary  as  lieing  a  good, 
-capable  writer  and  see  no  reason  why  be  should  not  keep  on  working,  because 
there  is  no  law  against  it. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Well,  there  is  no  law  against  it,  but  I  want  to  tell  you  if  I  had 
:a  business  it  would  not  make  any  difference — whether  it  is  the  insurance  business 
-which  I  have  got — or  whethei-  it  was  the  moving  picture  business  or  some  other 
l)usiness — if  I  had  a  business  I  would  not  keep  a  commie  in  there  5  seconds. 

Mr.  Warner.  That  is  my  policy  and  my  brother's  policy. 

Mr.  Thomas.  You  have  done  the  same  thing. 

Mr.   Warner.  Detinitely. 

Mr.  Thoaias.  But  the  dollar  sign  plays  a  big  part  with  some  of  the  other  fel- 
lows, and  that  is  what  astounds  us. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  would  like  to  make  a  bi'ief  statement  outlining  the  policy  of  the 
<-onipany  and  ourselves  personally  regarding  subversive  elements  such  as  leftists, 
fellow  travelers,  or  members  of  the  Connnunist  Party.  I  wish  to  reiterate  the 
very  tenor  of  Congressman  Thomas'  feeling  as  just  stated  because  I  could  not 
improve  on  it.  I  also  want  to  offer  as  evidence,  if  you  will  accept  it,  two  of  our 
personnel  blanks  that  have  been  in  use  for  a  number  of  years.  This  yellow  ap- 
plication form  was  first  used  in  193().  I  would  like  to  have  you  look  at  question 
No.  10.  And  on  the  white  form,  page  3.  question  No.  17,  where  we  deliberately 
put  in  there  through  my  personal  direction — I  would  like  you  to  read  it  [handing 
•documents  to  IMr.  Stripling]. 

Mr.  Stript.ing.  I  will  read  it  into  the  record. 

Question  No.  10.  "Are  you  atiiliated  with  any  organization  or  group  that  is 
fintagonistic  to  the  principles  of  our  American  form  of  government?" 

That  is  on  the  yellow  form. 

Now,  the  white  form,  question  No.  17: 

"Are  you  atiiliated  with  any  organization  or  group  antagonistic  to  the  prin- 
ciples of  our  American  form  of  government?  (Yes  or  no) — .  Are  you  a  mem- 
ber of  any  organization,  society,  group,  or  sect  owing  allegiance  to  a  foreign  gov- 
ernment or  rule?      (Yes  or  no) — ■" 

Mr.  Warner.  We  had  plenty  of  rebuffs  from  people  who  had  to  answer  them 
or  they  wouldn't  get  a  job. 

(The  afore-mentioned  documents  were  marked  "Warner  Exhibits  Nos.  1  and 
2."  I'o.spectively. )' 

Mr.  Stripling.  Don't  you  tliink  tlie  most  effective  way  of  removing  these  Com- 
munist   influences — and    I   say   Communist   influences;    I   am   not  saying   Com- 


"  Sop  appendix,  p.  .">2.3.  for  Warnpr  exhiliits  1  and  2.  .submitted  in  pxocntive  hearings,  May 
15.  1047,  now  designated  as  exhibits  9  and  10. 


50  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

niunists;  I  am  not  accusing  them  all  of  being  Communists — but  don't  you  think 
the  most  effective  way  is  the  pay-roll  route?  In  other  words,  if  the  owners  and 
producers  cut  these  people  off  the  pay  roll  it  would  eliminate  it  much  quicker  than 
a  congressional  conmiittee  or  crusades  and  so  forth. 

iMr.  Waknkb.  Well,  that  definitely  would  be.  Of  course,  if  you  drop  them  out 
of  pictures  then  the  Communists  have  other  ways  of  doing  it.  In  New  York  I 
saw  All  of  My  Sons,  written  by  Arthur  Miller.  Here  are  some  of  the  lines :  •'Rich 
men  are  made  ambassadors.    Poor  men  are  strung  up  by  the  thumbs." 

Another  line:  "You  can't  walk  along  the  street  and  spit  unless  you  hit  a  college 
man." 

They  write  about  21  cylinder  heads  that  were  brolcen.  They  can't  write  about 
the  1,500,000  good  airplane  motors  produced.  These  are  the  kind  of  things  they 
write  about.    That  play  disgusted  me.    I  almost  got  into  a  fist  fight  in  tlie  lobby. 

I  said,  "How  dare  they?''  They  wrote  about  21  little  cylinder  heads  that  were 
cracked.  And  the  play  is  a  good  play,  but  it  has  all  of  this  stuff  in  it.  In  fact, 
it  won  the  critics'  award  in  New  York,  and  was  directed  by  a  chap  named  Elia 
Kazan  who  is  now  at  Twentieth  Century-Fox  as  a  director.  He  directed  Boomer- 
ang and  is  now  going  somewhere  to  make  a  picture  for  them. 

Mr.  Thomas.  What  is  the  new  one? 

Mr.  Warnek.  Gentlemen's  Agreement.    Can  I  say  something  off  the  record? 

Mr.  Thomas.  Put  it  on  the  record. 

Mr.  Wariver.  This  fellow  is  also  one  of  the  mob.  I  know  of  him.  I  pass  him 
by  but  won't  talk  to  him. 

'  Mr.  Stripling.  Doesn't  it  kind  of  provoke  you  to  pay  them  $1,000  or  $2,000  a 
week  and  see  them  on  the  picket  lines  and  joining  all  of  these  organizations  and 
taking  your  money  and  trying  to  tear  down  a  system  that  provides  the  money? 

Mr.  Waenf:e.  That  is  absolutely  correct  because  I  will  offer  as  evidence  John 
Howard  Lawson — a  photograph  oif  him  in  our  picket  line  in  the  big,  strike  of  1945. 
The  strike  was  supposedly  on  account  of  the  carpenters  and  painters. 

Have  you  got  it  ?    I  haven't  seen  it  for  a  long  time. 

(Mr.  Matthews  hands  photograph  to  Mr.  Warner.) 

Mr.  Warnkr.  1  have  never  seen  this  fellow  in  person,  but  here  he  is.  In  that 
line  was  John  Wexley  to  whom  I  called  your  attention  before.  Tliere  were  loads 
of  them — Ring  Lardner,  Jr.  They  even  went  so  far  as  to  send  me  a  threatening 
telegram  which  I  am  sorry  I  didn't  bring  with  me — that  we  were  using  goons 
to  destroy  union  labor.  They  are  the  ones  that  came  through  with  goons  from 
Chicago  and  overturned  our  motorcars.  We  have  motion  pictures  of  it.  It  is 
nauseating  to  see  it. 

(Tlie  photograph  referred  to  by  Mr.  Warner  was  marked  "'Warner  Exhibit 
No.  3.")* 

Mr.  Stripling.  About  that  time  what  were  you  paying  Mr.  Lawson  and  some 
of  these  other  writers? 

Mr.  Warner.  We  were  probably  giving  them  about  $750. 

Mr.  Thomas.  $750  a  week? 

Mr.  Warner.  Yes.  He  was  there  only  for  that  one  picture.  Here  is  the  way 
the  fellows  get 'into  the  studios,  in  my  opinion.  In  each  studio  there  is  what  they 
call  a  steerer.  Most  of  them  are  menibers  of  the  story  editors  and  writing 
departments  and  they  bring  in  all  these  boys.  I  tried  to  find  out  how  they  got  in 
our  place.  There  was  a  very  inoffensive,  nice  chap — a  vei'y  nice  guy  all  around — 
his  name  is  James  Goller.  I  don't  know  if  he  belongs  to  anything,  but  he  must  be 
something  on  the  left  side  of  the  street.  He  is  the  one  that  steered  most  of  these 
writers  into  the  studio.    He  was  in  charge  of  picking  up  writers. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Is  he  still  employed  by  you? 

Mr.  WARNER.  No.  He  went  the  moment  his  contract  was  out  and  we  could 
legally  get  rid  of  him.  He  has  been  gone  at  least  for  some  time.  They  are  all 
gone.    The  last  one  that  left  us  was  Gordon  Kahn. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Your  eyes  have  really  been  opened.  Mr.  Warner. 

Mr.  Warner.  They  were  open  all  the  time.  I  always  had  my  eyes  open.  I 
don't  mean  to  say  that  I  didn't  but  I  didn't  realize  what  method  they  were  using. 
I  always  looke(i  upon  the  Communists  as  overthrowing  the  Govermnent  by 
violence  and  force.     1  believe  that  is  the  very  words  that  they  state. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  think  that  is  all  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  AVakni-b.  Let  me  see  what  else  I  may  have  here.  There  are  many  ways 
of  going  against  the  capitalist  system  using  one  form  or  another,  such  as  poking 


*  See  appendix,  p.  523,  for  Warner  Exhibit  No.  3,  submitted  in  executive  hearing,  May  15. 
1947,  now  designated  as  exhibit  11. 


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fun  at  our  political  system.  This  seems  to  be  the  easiest  way  for  writers  to  get 
by  us,  and  by  the  prodvu'tion  heads.    The  rich  man  is  their  favorite  choice. 

Now,  I  have  something  on  the  back  here.  After  this  big  strilve  these  people 
were  naturally  of  the  opinion  that  we  were  sympathetic  with  them,  which  we 
were  to  labor  in  general.  Laborers  were  trying  to  live  on  $1>S  a  week  in  the  de- 
pression period  and  my  brotlier  and  I  deliberately  raised  the  wage  scale  from 
around  ;">(»  or  00  cents,  wluitever  it  was,  to  85  cents,  and  w^e  were  rather  criti- 
cizi^d  by  people  around  here.  \\'hen  the  strike  started  they  picked  on  us  first, 
thiidcing  tliat  we  were  with  tliem.  They  instantly  found  out  we  were  not  with 
them  ;  it  was  just  to  tlie  contrary.  When  asked  why  they  picked  on  Warner 
Bros.,  they  sairopagandists  need  no 
aid  from  anyone.    They  are  pretty  clever.    They  know  everything. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Isn't  it  true  there  will  be  a  rush  of  anti-Communist  films? 

Mr.  WAKNEii.  I  don't  think  there  will  be  a  rush  of  them,  but  there  are  going 
to  be  a  few  made  because  we  are  making  one  now,'  I^p  Until  Now.  We  sent  a 
company  to  Boston  to  get  proper  locations.  In  making  this  type  of  film  you  have 
to  be  certain  you  are  portraying  the  events  of  the  day.  You  can't  say  that  you 
are  going  to  make  Mission  to  jMoscow  in  1947  because  1942  was  an  entirely 
different  story.  Then  they  were  our  allies  and  when  you  are  fighting  your  enemy 
you  go  along  with  your  allies  until  you  win. 

Yes ;  I  feel  you  have  proven  a  point,  in  my  opinion.  Propagandawise  they 
contemplate  many  anti-Communist  pictures  and  I  don't  believe  there  will  be  so 
many  made.  The  only  one  I  know  going  right  out  to  tell  the  story  is  the  one  we 
are  preparing.  The  rest  of  them  are  doing  it  in  one  form  or  another.  I  don't 
say  anyone  will  make  any  pro-Russian  pictures,  because  that  is  ridiculous.  They 
will  try  to  make  good  American  stories.  There  have  been  some  verj',  very  won- 
derful sequences  and  American  speeches  made  by  the  companies  in  the  past.  -  I 
don't  think  there  is  anyone  who  hasn't  tried  in  one  form  or  another  to  do  that, 
but  every  once  in  a  while  they  will  get  this  anticapitalistic  propaganda,  as  I  have 
found  it,  and  some  of  it  may  stick  in  the  films.  They  have  gotten  things  over 
on  me :  I  know  they  have. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Have  you  any  more  questions? 

Mr.  Stripling.   I  have  no  more  questions. 

Mr.  McDowell.    I  have  none. 

Mr.  W^arneb.  If  you  don't  mind  just  a  moment.  Would  you  want  this  for  the 
record?  You  can  use  it  as  you  wish.  These  are  copies  of  Communist  literature 
distributed  on  our  picket  lines  in  the  1945  strike. 

Mr.  Thomas.  We  would  like  very  much  to  have  them. 

Mr.  Warner.  We  have  books  that  high  of  evidence  that  Avent  on  in  front  of 
the  studio,  but  everybody  knows  about  this. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  ask  the  reporter  to  mark  those  exhibits  at  this  point  in 
the  record. 

(The  leaflets  referred  to  were  marked  "Warner's  Exhibits  4,  5,  and  0."*) 

Mr.  Warner.  Screening  pictures  for  subversive  messages — that  is  the  cardhial 
point.  We  watch  everything.  One  fellow  came  up  and  objected  and  found 
fault  with  the  destruction  of  the  Indians  and  what  not  in  order  for  the  white 


'  See  appendix,  p.   523.  for  Warner  Exhitiits  N().s.  4,  5,  and  6,  introduced  in  executive 
hearing,  May  15,  1947,  now  designated  as  exliibits  12,  13,  and  14. 


52  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

men  to  builfl  a  railroad  out  West.  Whether  it  i.s  true  or  false  I  don't  know.  I 
really  don't  know  because  I  wasn't  there.  He  said,  "There  is  no  reason  why 
we  can't  do  that  becjiuse  it  is  in  the  school  books.  They  have  been  writing 
about  it  for  almost  100  years  and  it  is  a  fact."  Then  he  recited  a  picture  that 
we  made  about  the  i-ailroad  barons,  or  whatever  you  want  to  call  them  in  the 
East,  a  picture  called  Saratoga  Trunk,  directed  by  Sam  Wood,  a  very  tine  man. 
If  you  saw  that  film  you  will  remember  Gary  Cooper  and  Ingrid  Bergman.  It 
came  out  a  couple  of  years  ago.  The  men  were  trying  to  steal  railroads  from 
one  another.  I  don't  Ivuow,  they  called  them  robber  barons  or  s(»mething  of  that 
nature.  Tliey  come  back  with  those  kinds  of  things,  "You  permitted  it  in  Sara- 
toga Truidv  and  you  don't  let  it  go  here.  That  is  the  way  I  feel  about  it.  This 
is  really  not  about  Indians.  It  is  really  about  the  building  of  the  West."  They 
have  the  routine  of  the  Indians  and  the  colored  folks.  That  is  always  their 
set-up. 

Mr.  Thomas.  The  committee  appreciates  your  coming  here,  Mr.  Warner.  You 
are  doing  a  .splendid  job.  We  only  wish  that  it  could  be  carried  through  into 
some  of  the  other  companies.  If  at  any  time  you  have  any  ideas  as  to  how 
you  can  -rt'ork  out  the  situation  with  the  other  producers  in  order  to  accomplish 
just  what  you  have  been  doing  I  think  it  would  be  helpful  to  the  country.  The 
main  thing  I  want  to  say  right  now  is  we  certainly  appreciate  your  coming  here 
today  and  giving  us  your  cooperation.  What  you  said  has  been  very  helpful  to 
the  committee.     This  is  off  the  record. 

Mr.  Warner.  May  I  give  you  a  couple  of  more  things  in  case  you  want  to  use 
them  ■? 

Mr.  Thomas.  Go  right  ahead. 

Mr.  Warner.  It  is  t)ften  difficult  to  prevent  the  hiring  of  certain  people  due  to 
the  fact  the  majority  of  employees  are  hired  through  unions  and  through  the 
guilds,  some  of  which  are  Communist-controlled.  Also  the  discharging  of  sub- 
versive employees  is  difficult  because  of  union  regulations.  We  have  to  do  it 
along  seniority  lines.  One  of  the  guilds  was  pretty  pink  and  we  had  to  close  a 
complete  department  in  order  to  get  rid  of  them  The  Story  Analysts  was  the 
name  of  it.     We  had  to  close  the  whole  thing  and  do  it  in  New  York,  which  I  did. 

We  established  some  time  ago  a  unit  to  investigate  these  things  and  this  type 
of  work  in  the  studio. 

Mr.  Thomas.  Is  there  anything  in  your  testimony  which  you  have  given  here 
today  that  you  are  willing  for  us  to  give  out  to  the  press? 

Mr.  Warner.  Let  me  tell  you  two  more  things,  about  the  Bulletin  which  we 
have  here,  and  I  would  like  to  submit  a  photostatic  copy  of  an  open  letter  to 
Jack  Warner,  dated  October  23, 1945,  printed  in  the  New  Masses. 

Mr.  Thomas.  That  will  be  the  next  exhibit. 

(Theoi>en  letter  was  marked  "Warner's  Exhibit  No.  7.")  i" 

Mr.  Matthews.  We  have  some  bulletins  issued  by  the  lATSE. 

(The  bulletins  referred  to  dated  November  2  and  13,  1945,  were  marked  "War- 
ner's Exhibits  8  and  9,"  respectively.)  ^i 

Mr.  Thomas.  Now,  is  there  anything  which  you  have  given  us  that  you  would 
like  for  us  to  say  to  the  press? 

Mr.  Warner.  There  is  one  thing  that  is  very  important,  something  I  would  not 
like  to  give  to  the  press  ;  let's  put  it  that  way. 

Mr.  Thomas.  What  is  that? 

Mr.  Warner.  That  is  the  whole  routine  on  Mission  to  Moscow. 

Mr.  Thomas.  That  is  the  one  thing  you  don't  want  to  give  to  the  press? 

Mr.  War.M':r.  That  is  the  one  thing  I  don't  want  to  give  to  the  press  because 
that  is  like  throwing  the  hananer  and  sickle  up  in  front  of  you,  and  it  all  hap- 
pened back  in  1942. 

Mr.  Thomas.  That  is  all. 

(Witness  excused.) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail  ? 

Mr.  Vail.  I  avouUI  like  to  get  one  or  two  specific  answers  from 
Mr.  Warner. 

Touching-  again  upon  the  association,  you  are  a  very  responsible 
executive  in  tlie  motion-picture  industry,  Mr.  Warner.    You  are  thrown 


'"  Sec  appendix,  p.  52,S,  for  exhibit  15. 

"  See  appondix,  p.  .523,  for  exhibits  16  and  17. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  53 

into  an  association,  in  this  organization,  with  other  ex(^cutives  of  the 
industry. 

Now,  we  have  touched  ni)on  the  writers  that  were  dismissed.  But 
we  all  liave  knowledge  of  a  large  numher  of  actors  who  are  generally 
known  to  have  connnunistic  sympathies  and  are  contributors  to  the 
Connnunist  war  chest.  It  would  seem  to  me  that  your  organization 
would  recognize  the  fact  that  the  American  people  are  not  interested 
in  viewing  the  pictures  in  wdiich  actors  appear  who  have  communistic 
leanings.  It  would  seem  to  me  that  this  organization  should  concern 
itself  with  cleaning  house  in  its  own  industry. 

You  pointed  out  what  the  organization  was  not  organized  for,  but 
you  didn't  touch  upon  the  reason,  the  actual  reason  or  reasons,  for  its 
existence.  I  take  it  for  granted  that  the  reason  is  the  betterment  and 
the  improvement  of  the  industry.  I  don't  think  that  you  can  improve 
the  industry  to  any  greater  degree  and  in  any  better  direction  than 
through  the  elimination  of  the  writers  and  the  actors  to  wdiom  definite 
communistic  leanings  can  be  traced. 

Don't  you  agree  to  that,  Mr.  Warner? 

Mr.  Warnp^r.  I  agree  to  it  personally,  Mr.  Congressman,  but  I 
cannot  agree  as  far  as  the  association  is  concerned.  I  can't,  for  the 
life  of  me,  figure  where  men  could  get  together  and  try  in  any  form, 
shape,  or  manner  to  deprive  a  man  of  a  livelihood  because  of  his 
political  beliefs. 

It  would  be  a  conspiracy,  the  attorney  tells  me,  and  I  know  that 
myself. 

Mr.  Vail,  At  this  stage  w^e  have  no  law.  There  is  a  question  as  to 
whether  we  shall  have  a  law  to  illegalize  (sic)  communism.  But  we 
have  to  recognize  that  the  motion-picture  industry  is  one  of  the  chan- 
nels through  which  is  established  the  groundwork  for  the  eventual 
destruction  by  force,  that  you  spoke  of  a  little  while  ago. 

Don't  you  think  it  is  a  job  of  the  industry,  then,  to  prevent  the 
insertion  of  the  tentacles  of  the  communistic  ideology  through  your 
industry? 

Mr.  Warner,  Speaking  as  an  individual  American,  with  each  man 
in  the  industry  having  a  responsibility,  I  feel  like  you  do,  I  feel, 
likewise,  in  the  free  press,  the  radio,  and  the  theater  to  a  degree  more 
or  less,  that  everybody  is  very,  very  cognizant  of  the  duty  that  they 
are  entrusted  with,  in  the  dissemination  of  the  American  way  of  life. 

Speaking  for  myself,  as  I  have  testified  many  times  here,  I  am 
more  than  aware  of  it,  and  I  do  everything  that  is  humanly  possible 
to  eradicate  it  in  every  form,  shape,  or  manner.  That  could  be  my 
only  answer.  The  producers'  association  has  nothing  to  do  with  a 
man's  ability  to  earn  a  living,  and  so  forth.  We  meet  in  common 
purpose  for  the  betterment  of  moral  standards  of  our  business — sort 
of  good  public  relations,  I  would  call  it. 

Mr.  Vail.  Well,  you  recognize  the  fact  that  conmuniism  is  a  very 
definite  threat  to  our  Govennnent  today? 

Mr.  Warner.  I  certainly  do  recognize  it — a  threat  not  only  to  the 
United  States  but  to  many  of  the  European  and  the  far-eastern 
countries. 

Mr.  Vail.  Well,  you  recognize  the  fact,  also,  that  the  motion-picture 
industry,  ])aying  high  salaries  to  actors  professing  connnunism  and 


54  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

supportino;  the  Connnunist  Party,  is  lending  aid  and  sujiport  to  the 
communistic  effort  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  If  you  have  that  proof,  undoubtedly  that  is  what  they 
are  doing.     I  don't  know  whether  they  are  doing  it  or  not. 

Mr.  Vail.  I  feel  that  you  are  much  better  informed  than  I  am  about 
the  situation  out  in  Hollywood.  I  assume  that  while  you  may  not 
know,  you  probably  have  heard  rumors — like  all  the  rest  of  us  have 
heard  rumors — that  certain  actors  and  actresses,  as  well  as  writers,  are 
substantial  contributors  to  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Warner.  I  have  heard  rumors.  It  is  sort  of  common  gossip, 
for  the  want  of  something  else  to  s])eak  about. 

Mr.  Vail.  Well,  you  have  failed  to  act  for  lack  of  supporting  proof. 
Would  you  act  if  proof  were  supplied  ? 

Mr.  Warner.  We  would  act  very  effectively  if  we  had  the  proof. 

Mr.  Vail.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Warner. 

Mr.  Warner.  You  are  welcome. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  No  questions. 

The  Chair:man.  Mr.  Nixon  ? 

Mr.  NixoN.  No  questions. 

The  Ceiairman.  Mr.  McDowell  ? 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  have  no  questions. 

The  Chairman.  The  Chair  would  like  to  announce  that  it  is  going 
to  be  the  policy  of  the  committee  to  go  into  session  every  morning  at 
10 :  30,  to  recess  at  V2 :  30,  to  reconvene  at  2,  and  to  adjourn  at  4. 

The  witnesses  scheduled  for  tomorrow — and  we  will  have  two  more 
witnesses  this  afternoon — will  be,  first,  Mr.Adolphe  Menjou;  second, 
Mr.  Jack  Moif  itt ;  and,  third,  Ayn  Rand. 

Mr.  Warner,  the  committee  desii'es  to  thank  you  A^ery  much  for 
being  here  today  and  speaking  so  freely  and  for  doing  the  excellent 
job  which  you  have  done  in  your  own  studio  in  cleaning  house. 

Thank  you.^^ 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Chairman— — - 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  is  adjourned. 

(Whereupon,  at  12  :  30,  a  recess  was  taken  until  2  p.  m.) 

afternoon  session 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order. 
Mr.  Stripling,  the  first  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  first  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  Sam  Wood. 
The  Chairman.  Mv.  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about 
to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth? 
Mr.  W^ooD.  I  do,  sir. 
The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAMUEL  GROSVENOR  WOOD 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Wood,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name? 

Mr.  Wood.  Samuel  Grosvenor  Wood. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  present  occupation  ? 


"  See  appendix,  p.  524,  for  subpena  of  Jack  L.  Waruer,  being  exhibit  18. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  55 

Mr.  Wood.  1  am  a  motion-picture  producer  and  director. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  was  born  in  Pliikidelphia,  Pa.,  1883. 

The  Chairman.  Excuse  me,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Haven't  you  an  attorney? 

Mr.  Wood.  No. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead. 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  Do  you  desire  an  attorney? 

Mr.  Wood.  No.    I  am  certainly  satisfied. 

^Ir.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  associated  with  the  motion 
l)icture  industry,  Mr.  Wood? 

Mr.  Wood.  For  over  30  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  are  the  various  positions  that  you  have  held 
in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Wood.  Pardon  me? 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  various  positions  you  have  held.  You  have 
been  producer,  director 

]Mr.  Wood.  I  w^as  first  assistant  director  for  a  year  and  a  half  and 
then  became  a  director ;  then  I  produced  and  directed  my  own  pictures. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  name  to  the  committee  some  of  the  films 
which  you  have  produced  and  directed  in  recent  years  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  Saratoga  Trunk,  Goodbye  Mr.  Chips,  For  Wliom 
the  Bell  Tolls,  Kitty  Foyle,  King's  Row ;  the  last  picture  was  Ivy,  with 
Joan  Fontaine. 

]VIr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Directors  Guild? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  explain  to  the  committee  what  the  Screen 
Directors  Guild  is? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  it  is  very  similar  to  a  union.  I  mean,  we  have 
banded  together  to  protect  our  rights  and  have  a  uniform  front  on 
subjects  that  might  come  up  with  the  executives  or  the  studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  how  many  members  the  Screen  Direc- 
tors Guild  has? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think  we  have  two  hundred  and  forty-some.  I  am  not 
sure  of  that,  but  I  think  that  is  it. 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  the  Screen  Directors 
Guild  has  ever  been  infiltrated  by  the  Communists? 

^Ir.  Wood.  They  have  tried. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  tell  the  committee  of  the  efforts  that  you 
are  aware  of  on  the  part  of  the  Communists  to  infiltrate  the  Screen 
Directors  Guild? 

Mr.  Wood.  There  is  a  constant  effort  to  get  control  of  the  guild.  .  In 
fact,  there  is  an  effort  to  get  control  of  all  unions  and  guilds  in  Holly- 
wood. I  think  our  most  serious  time  was  when  George  Stevens  was 
president ;  he  went  in  the  service  and  another  gentleman  took  his  place, 
who  died,  and  it  was  turned  over  to  John  Cromwell.  Cromwell,  with 
the  assistance  of  three  or  four  others,  tried  hard  to  steer  us  into  the 
Red  river,  but  we  had  a  little  too  much  weight  for  that. 

jMr.  Stripling.  Will  you  mime  the  others? 

Mr.  Wood.  Irving  Pichel,  Edward  Dmytryk,  Frank  Tuttle,  and — I 
am  sorry,  there  is  another  name  there.    I  forget. 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  you  think  of  it,  will  you  give  it  for  the  record? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes. 


56  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Wood,  are  you  a  ineniber  of  the  Motion  Picture 
Alliance  for  tlie  Preservation  of  American  Ideals  ? 

Mr.  W()(H).  I  am.     I  was  the  first  president. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  tell  the  connnittee  the  circumstances  mider 
which  this  organization  was  founded,  and  the  rea.son  why  it  was 
founded? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  the  reason  was  very  simple.  We  organized  in 
self-defense.  We  felt  that  there  was  a  definite  effort  by  the  Commu- 
nist Party  members,  or  Party  travelers,  to  take  over  the  unions  and 
the  guilds  of  Hollywood,  and  if  they  had  the  unions  and  guilds  con- 
trolled, they  would  have  the  plum  in  tlieir  lap  and  they  would  move 
on  to  use  it  for  Communist  propaganda. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  recall  the  year  that  the  alliance  was  estab- 
lished ? 

Mr.  Wood.  1944. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I. have  here  a  copy  of  the  statement  of  principles 
of  the  guild. 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Without  reading  them  into  the  record,  could  you 
briefly  outline  to  the  committee  the  purposes?     I  will  hand  you  this. 

Mr.  Wood.  I  am  sorry,  I  don't  have  my  glasses.  I  was  going  to 
ask  yon  to  read  it  for  me. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

Statement  of  I'rinciples 

We  believe  in,  and  like,  the  American  wny  of  life;  the  liberty  and  Iretnloni 
which  generations  before  us  have  fought  to  create  and  preserve;  the  freedom 
to  speak,  to  think,  to  live,  to  worship,  to  work,  and  to  govern  ourselves  as  indi- 
viduals, as  free  men ;  the  right  to  succeed  or  fail  as  free  men,  according  to  the 
measure  of  our  ability  and  our  sti'ength. 

Believing  in  these  things,  we  find  ourselves  in  sharp  revolt  against  a  rising 
tide  of  communism,  fascism,  and  kindred  beliefs,  that  seek  by  subversive  means 
to  undermine  and  change  this  way  of  life;  groiips  that  luive  forfeited  their  right 
to  exist  in  this  country  of  ours,  because  they  seek  to  achieve  their  change  by 
means  other  than  the  vested -procedure  of  the  ballot  and  to  deny  the  right  of  the 
ma.ioi'ity  opinion  of  the  people  to  rule. 

In  our  special  field  of  motion  pictures,  we  resent  the  growing  impression  that 
this  industry  is  made  up  of,  and  dominated  by,  Communists,  radicals,  and 
crackpots.  We  believe  that  we  represent  the  vast  majority  of  the  people  wh(v 
serve  this  great  medium  of  expression.  But  unfortunately  it  has  been  an  unor- 
ganized majority.  This  has  been  almost  intnMtable.  The  very  love  of  freedom, 
of  the  rights  of  the  individual,  make  this  great  majority  reluctant  to  organize. 
But  now  we  must,  or  we  shall  meanly  lose  "the  last,  best  hop;-  on  earth." 

As  Americans,  we  have  no  new  plan  to  offer.  We  want  no  new  plan,  we  want 
only  to  defend  against  its  enemies  that  which  is  our  priceless  heritage:  that 
freedom  which  has  given  man,  in  this  country,  the  fullest  life  and  the  richest 
expression  the  world  has  ever  known:  that  system  which,  in  the  present  emer- 
gency, has  fathered  an  effort  that,  more  than  any  other  single  factor,  will  make 
possible  the  winning  of  this  war. 

As  members  of  the  motion-picture  industry,  we  must  face  and  accept  an  espe- 
cial responsibility.  Motion  pictui'cs  are  inescaiiably  one  of  the  world's  greatest 
forces  for  inllueucing  public  tlionght  and  opinion,  iioth  at  home  and  abroad. 
In  this  fact  lies  solemn  obligation.  We  refuse  to  permit  the  effort  of  Com- 
munist. Fascist,  and  other  totalitarian-minded  groups  to  pervert  this  iiowerful 
medium  into  an  instrument  for  the  dissemination  of  un-American  ideas  and 
beliefs.  We  pledge  ourselves  to  fight,  with  every  means  at  our  organizxl  com- 
mand, any  effort  of  any  group  or  individual,  to  divert  the  loyalty  of  the  screen 
from  the" free  America  that  give  it  birth.  And  to  dedicate  our  work,  in  the 
fullest  possible  measure,  to  the  presentation  of  the  American  scene,  its  standards 
and  its  freedoms,  its  beliefs  and  its  ideals,  as  we  know  them  and  believe  in  them. 


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Mr.  Wood,  would  you  name  some  of  the  other  individuals  in  Holly- 
wood who  were  associated  with  you  in  the  formation  of  this  organi- 
zation ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Maurice  Kiskin,  Gary  Cooper,  Clark  Gable,  Bob  Taylor, 
Jim  McGuinness,  Howard  Emmett  Rogers,  Ralph  Clair,  Ben  Martinez, 
Joe  Touhy.  Those  last  three  men  are  labor  leaders.  When  we  first 
incorporated,  I  think  we  had  50  to  100  people  together  to  talk  this 
over,  and  then  we  decided  to  organize.  It  is  difficult  to  remember  all 
the  names.  I  don't  know  whether  that  is  enough.  Oh,  there  is  Ginger 
Rogers. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Victor  Fleming? 
Mr.  Wood.  Victor  Fleming.     Clarence  Brown. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Rupert  Hughes? 
Mr.  Wood.  Rupert  Hughes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  They  were  people  who  were  very  prominent  in  the 
industry? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes ;  very  prominent. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  reason  for  forming  this  organization  was  to 
combat  the  inroads  that  the  Communists  were  making  or  attempting  to 
make  within  the  industry  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Both  the  Communists  and  the  Fascists. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Did  your  organization  meet  with  any  opposition? 
Mr.  Wood.  Yes ;  great  deal  of  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  describe  for  the  committee  the  attack 
that  was  made  u]5on  the  organization  and  upon  the  individuals  who 
were  instrumental  in  founding  it? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  an  organization  was  gotten  together  called  the 
Emergency  Council  of  Hollywood  Guilds  and  Unions  over  which 
Emmett  Lavery  presided  and  back  of  the  scenes  was  Herbert  Sorrell. 
Then  there  was  an  organization  which  jumped  up  called  the  Free 
Word.  Walter  Wanger  dug  it  up  some  place.  I  think  it  has  quite 
a  background,  if  you  want  to  look  it  up.  Wanger's  first  attack  was  on 
the  basis  of  "We  don't  want  any  home-front  Communists  here."  He 
didn't  mention  any  home-front  Fascists.  He  called  it  "home-front 
Fascists,"  but  said  nothing  about  "home-front  Communists."  The 
other  attacks  were  individual.  We  know  of  a  number  of  people  that 
called  up  other  people.  It  just  depended  on  which  method  they 
though  would  be  the  most  effective.  And  they  referred  to  us  as  anti- 
Semitic,  anti-labor,  anti-Negro.  Of  course,  always  anti-labor  when 
they  couldn't  think  of  anything  else. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Isn't  that  the  usual  tactics  of  the  Communist  ? 
Mr.  Wood.  To  smear,  yes.     Smear  and  hide. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Wood,  is  it  your  opinion  that  the  Communists 
do  exercise  some  degree  of  influence  in  the  making  and  production  of 
motion  pictures  in  Hollywood  at  the  present  time,  or  have  in  the  past  ? 
Mr.  Wood.  Well,  at  the  present  time — of  course,  they  are  always 
trying — but  I  think  at  the  present  time  Hollywood  is  pretty  well  aware 
of  them  and  I  think  the  thing  is  watched  pretty  closely.  It  has  really 
caused  everyone  to  be  a  watch  dog.  They  know  pretty  well.  I  think 
it  was  inexperience  that  any  material  crept  through.  Now  that  they 
are  aware  of  it  they  kept  a  pretty  good  eye  on  them. 

It  isn't  only  what  they  get  in  the  films,  it  is  what  they  keep  out.  If 
a  story  has  a  good  point,  that  sells  the  American  way  of  living,  that 


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can  be  eliminated  and  you  wouldn't  miss  it.  If  you  picture  some 
official,  or  the  banker,  as  a  dirty  "so  and  so,"  we  can  see  that,  and  out 
it  jToes.  Of  course,  they  know  me  pretty  well.  In  fact,  I  don't  have 
any  of  them  around.     I  don't  want  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  haven't  had  any  trouble  with  any  of  the  Com- 
munists in  your  own  productions? 

Mr.  Wood.  No. 

Mr.  STRirLiNG.  Why  do  you  think  that  is  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Because  I  don't  have  them.     Don't  want  them. 

Mr.  STRirLiNG.  Is  that  true  of  all  the  studios  in  the  motion-picture 
industry  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  know  the  heads  of  most  of  the  studios.  I  know  Louis 
Mayer,  Mrs.  Schenk,  Eddie  Manix,  I  know  the  Warners,  Mr.  Fried- 
man, Mr.  Ginsburg  of  Paramount,  Mr.  Yates  of  Republic.  I  could  go 
on  down  the  line.  I  don't  think  any  of  them  would  willingly  permit 
propaganda,  Communist  propaganda,  in  their  pictures.  But  it  is  im- 
possible, utterly  impossible  for  the  heads  of  the  studios  to  read  the 
number  of  scripts  they  would  have  to  read.  There  is  the  danger.  They 
are  always  trying.    So  you  have  to  be  a  watchdog. 

Mr.  Strttling.  What  group  in  the  industry  must  be  watched  more 
carefully  than  the  rest  ? 

Mr.  WojOd.  The  writers. 

JNIr.  Stripling.  The  writers  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  it  your  opinion  that  there  are  Communist  writers 
in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Wood.  Oh,  yes.  It  is  not  my  opinion,  I  know  positively  there 
are. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  j^ou  care  to  name  any  that  you  know  yourself 
to  be  Communists? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  I  don't  think  there  is  any  question  about  Dalton 
Trumbo;  any  .question  about  Donald  Ogden  Stevrart.  The  reporter 
asked  the  question  of  a  great  many  writers,  "Are  you  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party,"  or  "Are  you  a  Communist?" 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  they  deny  it? 

Mr.  Wood.  They  didn't  answer  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  John  Howard  Lawson  one  of  those  persons? 

Mr.  Wood.  Oh,  yes;  he  is  active  in  every  piece  of  Communist  work 
going  on. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  there  any  question  in  your  mind  that  John  How- 
ard Lawson  is  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  If  there  is,  then  I  haven't  any  mind. 

I  suppose  there  are  19  gentlemen  back  there  that  say  I  haven't. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  did  you  first  notice  this  effort  on  the  part  of 
the  Communists  to  enter  Hollywood  or  to  exert  influence  in  the  mo- 
tion-picture industry? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  I  think  they  really  started  working  around  1030, 
some,  I  forget  the  exact  time.  I  think  we  were  very  conscious  of  it, 
had  been  for  some  time,  but  like  everyone  else  we  probably  hadn't  done 
anything,  because  it  is  quite  an  effort  and  you  get  quite  smeared,  and 
a  lot  of  people  would  like  to  duck  that.  It  is  fun  to  play  bridge,  for 
instance,  rather  than  to  check  on  something  like  that.  We  felt  it  more, 
I  think,  just  previously  to  our  organization  in  1944. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  That  was  the  reason,  in  other  words,  that  you  formed 
3'our  organization,  was  to  combat  the  increased  activity  on  the  part 
of  the  Communists  in  the  industry  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir ;  we  felt  there  was  a  great  danger,  and  it  was  in 
the  interest  of  self-defense  of  our  business,  because  we  felt  a  moral 
responsibility  for  our  business.  It  has  been  very  kind  to  a  lot  of  us, 
and  we  want  to  protect  it. 

Mr.  Striplincj.  Now,  Mr.  Wood,  would  you  give  the  committee  some 
of  these  examples  in  which  the  Communists  have  exerted  influence  in 
the  motion-picture  industry?  In  other  words,  how  do  they  go  about 
it,  what  is  the  mechanics  of  it? 

Mr.  Wood.  There  are  a  number  of  ways.  I  think  the  thing  that  is 
very  important,  and  the  thing  I  was  most  anxious  about,  is  the  pride 
of  Americans  in  working.  They  are  pretty  subtle.  For  instance,  a 
man  gets  a  key  position  in  the  studio  and  has  charge  of  the  writers. 
Wlien  you,  as  a  director  or  a  producer,  are  ready  for  a  writer  you  ask 
for  a  list  and  this  man  shows  you  a  list.  Well,  if  he  is  following  the 
party  line  his  j^ets  are  on  top  or  the  other  people  aren't  on  at  all.  If 
there  is  a  particular  man  in  there  that  has  been  opposing  them  they 
will  leave  liis  name  off  the  list.  Then  if  that  man  isn't  employed  for 
about  2  months  they  go  to  the  head  of  the  studio  and  say,  "Nobody 
wants  this  man."  The  head  is  perfectly  honest  about  it  and  says,  '"No- 
body wants  to  use  him,  let  him  go."  So  a  good  American  is  let  out. 
But  it  doesn't  stop  there.  They  point  that  out  as  an  example  and  say, 
"You  better  fall  in  line,  play  ball,  or  else."  And  they  go  down  the 
line  on  it. 

Mr.  StPvIplixg.  That  is  true  in  the  case  of  writers.  Would  you  say 
it  is  true  in  any  other  branch  of  the  industry  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  don't  think,  in  any  part  of  the  business,  they  will  use 
a  party  who  is  opposed  to  their  ideas,  if  they  can  avoid  it,  and  they  can 
usually  avoid  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  They  opei'ate  as  cliques,  in  other  words? 

Mr.  Wood.  Oh,  yes;  they  have  their  nleetings  every  night.  They 
ai'e  together ;  they  work  for  one  purpose. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  that  purpose,  Mr.  Wood? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  I  think  they  are  agents  of  a  foreign  country  myself. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  see. 

The  CiLviRMAN.  Would  you  say  that  these  persons  you  named  here 
today  were  agents  of  a  foreign  country? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think  anyone  following  the  party  line,  I  think  this 
particular  party  line,  are  agents  of  a  foreign  country.  I  think  they 
are  directed  from  a  foreign  country. 

It  isn't  exactly  fair  to  have  my  back  to  that  gang  out  there. 

Mr.  Stripling.  jNIr.  Wood,  from  time  to  time  have  pictures  been 
produced  by  Hollywood  which  portray  what  we  might  call  the  sordid 
side  of  American  life?  Are  3'ou  familiar  with  any  pictures  of  that 
kind  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  I  think  there  are  all  sides  of  life  and  I  think  they 
should  be  photographed.  I  would  like  to  say  that  I  think  one  of  the 
great  dangers  to  this  business  would  be  censorship  because  those 
people  are  so  Avell  organized  that  they  would  like  to  have  censorship 
because  then  they  would  get  their  stooges  in  the  position  of  censoring 
and  then  Avould  have  it  in  their  pocket.    And  as  far  as  the  sordid  side 


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is  concerned,  I  think  3^011  should  tell  all  things  in  pictures.  I  think 
that  if  a  story  has  a  good  point  to  it — I  mean,  Grapes  of  Wrath — 
things  happen  in  America  and  I  think  we  should  show  it. 

Mr.  SxiaPLiNG.  I  believe  Mr.  Johnston,  when  he  aj^peared  before 
the  committee,  made  some  mention  of  Russia's  desire  to  obtain  cer- 
tain pictures  which  might  portray  the  worst  side  of  the  United  States. 
Do  you  know  of  any  pictures  that  they  have  endeavored  to  obtain 
to  show  in  Russia  ^ 

Mr.  Wood.  I  don't  know  as  they  would  be  anxious  to  show"  that  pic- 
ture, because,  after  all,  as  poor  as  they  were,  they  did  have  a  piece 
of  ground,  and  they  did  have  an  automobile,  and  they  are  at  liberty 
to  get  the  automobile  and  travel  across  the  country. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Speaking  of  Grapes  of  Wrath? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes;  I  don't  think  he  would  be  anxious  to  show  that. 
He  might  have  started  it,  but  I  think  they  would  take  it  off  if  they 
did. 

Mr.  Stkiplixg.  Now,  Mr.  Wood,  since  so  many  Americans  attend 
the  motion  pictures  every  week,  you  are  certainly  aware  of  the  tre- 
mendous propaganda  vehicle  it  affords.  Do  you  feel  that  the  Com- 
munists have  succeeded  in  putting  in  pictures  scenes  which — or  leav- 
ing scenes  out  of  pictures — which  indirectly  attack  our  system  of 
government  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  unquestionably  they  are  always  trying.  It  is  very 
difficult  for  the  American  people  to  understand  what  you  mean  b}^ 
Cf)mnuinist  projjaganda  in  pictures.  You  might  refer  to  some  pic- 
ture, something  is  mentioned,  and  they  say,  "That  is  ridiculous,  there 
is  no  propaganda  there,''  because  they  are  looking  for  some  howl  for 
Stalin  or  showing  the  Russian  way  of  life.  But  they  dcm't  show  that. 
They  have  nothing  to  sell.  All  they  want  to  do  is  try  to  unsell 
America. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  can  be  done  just  as  effectively  by  leaving 
stuff  out  of  pictures  as  by  putting  it  in? 

Mr.  W(H)D.  Yes:  they  don'f  want  to  show  the  American  way  of  life. 

Mr.  Stripling.  These  groups  or  cliques  that  you  have  referred  to 
in  the  motion-picture  industry,  are  they  a  source  of  financial  assist- 
ance to  the  Community  Party  in  California? 

Mr.  Wood.  Very  substantial.  For  example,  at  the  rally  which 
Katherine  Kepburn  attended,  they  raised  $87,000 — and  you  know 
that  didn't  go  to  the  Boy  Scouts. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Where  do  you  think  it  went  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  AVe  will  see  the  results  of  it.  Recently  they  had  a  rally 
for  these  19  guests  of  yours  and  they  raised  $10,000.  They  dig  the 
money  up,  or  else. 

Mr.  S'liupLiNG.  Were  you  ever  approached  by  any  Govermnent 
representative,  Mr.  Wood,  regarding  the  making  of  a  film  dealing 
with  the  Congress  of  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  tell  the  connnittee  the  circumstances 
of  that  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  got  a  phone  call  from  Sam  Spivak  in  New  York, 
1  think  he  was,  or  Washington,  saying  there  was  a  very  important 
picture  they  wanted  made,  and  particularly  wanted  me  to  make  it, 
because  it  had  to  be  so  aiul  so.    I  was  delighted  to  make  anvthing  that 


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\vt)ul(l  help  the  war  effort.  I  said  all  right.  They  said  the  gentle- 
man wonld  be  out  tomorrow.  The  next  day  I  got  a  call  from  Lowell 
Mellett.  I  met  him  at  the  Brown  Derby  in  Beverly  Hills  and  he  had 
with  him  a  man  named  Pointer.  They  told  me  they  wanted  to  make 
a  short  showing  Congress  enacting  a  law.  It  was  a  little  strange  to 
me,  because  I  couldn't  figure  how  that  was  going  to  help  the  war 
effort. 

The  Chairman.  I  didn't  get  the  name  of  the  picture. 

Mr.  Wood.  A  short  showing  the  Congress  enacting  a  law.  And 
when  they  told  me  what  the  subject  was,  I  said,  I  was  a  little  sur- 
prised and  then  they  immediately  started  to  refer  to  "Joe" — different 
Members  of  the  Congress,  referred  to  them  by  their  first  names. 
They  were  a  little  amused  about  the  gentleman  "Joe."  In  the  mean- 
time I  thought  it  over  and  I  said,  "How  is  that  going  to  help  the  war 
effort.^"  and  they  looked  at  me  a  little  strangely,  and  in  a  few  minutes 
the  thing  was  over,  and  I  didn't  hear  any  more  of  it.  So  maybe  I 
spoke  too  quickly. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  you  gain  the  impression  that  they  thought  it 
ridiculed  Congress? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  had  an  idea  from  the  conversation  that  they  didn't 
think  highly  of  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  Mr.  Mellett  was  a  representa- 
tive then  of  the  Motion  F'icture  Section  of  the  Office  of  War  Infor- 
mation ? 

Mr.  WoDD.  I  don't  know  positively.  I  presume  he  was.  Spivak 
told  me  these  gentlemen  were  coming  out  and  I  presume  they  were 
conducted  with  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  in  the 
past  there  have  been  efforts  to  discredit  certain  institutions  of  the 
American  Government  by  constantly  referring  to  the  Members  of 
Congress  as  being  crooks,  and  so  forth,  in  the  pictures  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think  there  has  been  an  effort.  Of  course,  if  you  go 
back  in  pictures  you  will  find  frequently  the  banker  or  the  man  in 
l>ublic  life,  the  doctor,  any  one  of  them  would  be  the  heavy  in  the 
picture.  I  think  it  is  particularly  bad  if  that  is  constantly  shown, 
every  night  you  go  to  the  pictures  you  see  a  dishonest  banker,  or 
Senator,  you  begin  to  think  that  the  whole  system  is  wrong.  That  is 
the  way  they  work  on  it.  They  figure  if  you  can  break  down  or 
destroy  the  confidence  of  the  people  in  the  Government,  or  the  gentle- 
men who  are  executing  it,  then  it  is  a  very  simple  thing  to  have  a  new- 
idea  for  them — and,  believe  me,  they  have  got  one  for  you,  too. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  at  this  time. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  Mr.  Wood',  how  many  people  are  members  of 
the  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think,  sir.  about  eleven  or  twelve  hundred  members. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  This  other  organization;  what  was  that? 

Mr.  Wood.  Motion  Picture  Alliance? 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  Yes.     How  many  members  are  there  of  that? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  we  have  probably  1.100  members,  but  then  we  have 
tlie  heads  of  labor  and  they  control  a  great  many  votes.  We  have  a 
lot  of  people,  thousands  more  of  people,  who  are  indirectly  interested 
with  us  through  other  associations. 

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Mr,  John  S.  Wood.  What  percentage  of  the  membership  of  those 
organizations  would  you  say  now  follow  the  Communist  line? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think  you  misunderstood.  I  said  that  the  Motion  Pic- 
ture Writers  Guild  was  controlled  by  the  Communists  but  they  are  a 
very  small  portion  of  them. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  How  do  they  control  it  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  sir,  how  do  they  control  labor?  After  all,  there 
are  a  lot  of  ways  they  do  it.  They  call  a  meeting,  they  start  argu- 
ments, it  gets  to  be  around  12  o'clock  and  they  are  still  going,  the  peo- 
ple go  home,  and  then  they  pass  what  they  want  to  pass.  They  have 
got  that  down  pretty  cleverly.  Of  course,  they  like  to  put  up  people 
who  are  not  members  of  the  Communist  Party.  It  is  much  more 
favorable  to  them  to  have  a  man  who  is  a  good  Catholic,  for  instance, 
stand  up  and  say,  "I  am  not  a  Communist,"  but  he  is  talking  for  them. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  You  say  you  have  been  in  the  producing. busi- 
ness how  long  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  have  been  in  the  motion-picture  directing  and  produc- 
ing end  for  over  30  years. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  During  that  time  you  directed  pictures  for 
various  studios  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir;  I  started  in  with  Paramount  and  then  went 
to  Metro.  I  think  I  was  with  those  two  for  20  years.  Then  I  went 
on  my  own.  I  mean,  I  didn't  go  directly  to  that.  I  have  made  pic- 
tures— if  I  liked  the  story  I  have  made  a  picture.  For  instance,  I 
wanted  to  get  Gary  Cooper  for  For  Whom  the  Bell  Tolls  and  (xold- 
wyn  would  only  let  me  have  him  if  I  made  Lou  Gehrig.  But  I  have 
been  producing  my  own  pictures  for  the  last  o  or  4  years. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  I  would  like  to  have  your  opinion  as  to  the  views 
on  communism  or  other  subversive  influences  embraced  by  any  re- 
sponsible studio  head  or  producer  for  whom  you  have  worked  or 
by  whom  you  have  been  employed. 

JSIr.  Wood.  I  have  never  come  in  contact  with  any  heads  of  any 
studios  that  were  Communist  inclined  or  favored  it  or  weren't  willing 
to  tight  against  it.  For  instance,  in  our  own  country  we  weren't  very 
conscious  of  it  until  very  recently.  I  think  now  you  can  depend  on 
them.  They  will  take  as  strong  action  as  the  Government  or  we  will 
take  with  them.     I  am  positive  of  that,  of  the  men  I  know. 

Mr.  John  S.  Wood.  I  believe  that  is  all. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Mr.  Wood,  you  have  indicated  that  the  organization 
which  you  have  described  believes  that  it  is  essential  for  Hollywood 
to  direct  its  attack  against  both  the  Fascists  on  the  one  side  and  the 
Communists  on  the  other? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Nixon.  And  you  have  indicated  that  when  your  organization 
was  formed  there  were  certain  elements  in  Hollywood  which  leveled 
some  pretty  severe  attacks  upon  your  organization  and  that  those  at- 
tacks were  limited  to  that  part  of  your  program  that  had  to  do  with 
anti-Connnunist  activities? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir.  None  of  them  referred  to  us  as  Communists 
at  all.  It  was  sort  of  a  mouth-to-mouth  thing.  They  would  call  up. 
For  instance,  Jewish  members,  they  oven  called  them  anti-Semitic. 
Labor  people  were  antilabor.  It  didn't  make  any  difference.  But 
they  kept  it  up.     You  can't  stop  that. 


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Mr.  Nixon.  The  grounds  which  generally  have  been  given  by  those 
who  dislike  any  criticism  of  Hollywood  following,  an  anti-Communist 
line,  shall  we  say,  or  any  criticism  of  the  pictures  which  have,  shall 
we  say,  been  pro-Comnuuiist,  is  that  they  do  not  feel  tliat  propaganda 
and  tiie  motion  pictures  should  be  controlled  and  they  do  not  feel  that 
it  should  be  used  for  the  purpose  of  attacking  any  way  of  thinking. 
You,  of  course,  have  heard  of  the  control  arguments  which  have  been 
used  time  and  time  again. 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir;  I  saw  a  copy  of  that  meeting. 

Mr.  Nixox.  This  group  obviously,  therefore,  has  said  we  don't  want 
to  see  any  investigations  of  Communist  activities  in  Hollywood,  we 
don't  want  to  see  any  pictures  which  are  anti -Communist,  or  any  in- 
fluence exerted  to  make  anti-Communist  pictures,  because  if  that  is 
the  case  we  would  be  leveling  an  attack  upon  the  right  of  people  to 
believe  anything  they  want  in  the  United  States  and  to  say  it  openly. 
But  by  the  same  token  have  any  members  of  those  groups  ever  criticized 
3'ou,  or  to  your  knowledge  have  they  ever  criticized  any  segment  of 
the  industry  for  the  pictures  which  Hollywood  has  made  in  which 
Hollywood  has  leveled  a  devastating  attack  on  the  totalitarian  form 
of  government  ? 

j\Ir.  Wood.  Well,  that  is  a  long  question.  Do  3'ou  want  me  to  take 
it  by  sections  ? 

Mr.  Nixox.  Have  you  any  knowledge  that  this  group  that  leveled 
attacks  upon  your  organization,  have  they  ever  criticized  you,  or  to 
your  knowledge  have  they  ever  criticized  the  industry  generally,  be- 
cause the  industry  has  made  in  the  past  pictures  which  attacked  the 
Nazi  and  Fascist  totalitarian  governments? 

]\rr.  Wood.  Of  course,  they  made  no  attacks  during  the  time  Hitler 
and  Stalin  were  together:  they  welcomed  that.  Previous  to  that 
Hitler  and  Mussolini  were  both  their  enemies.  As  soon  as  Hitler 
and  Stalin  got  together,  then  the  whole  thing  was  changed.  It  wasn't 
in  the  interest  of  America  or  in  the  interest  of  anything  in  particular 
but  Stalin.     That  was  their  main  idea. 

]Mr.  Nixox.  So  far  as  this  group  is  concerned,  it  is  "thought  con- 
trol'' whenever  the  motion-picture  industry  might  make  an  anti- 
Communist  film:  but  it  isn't  "thought  control"  if  they  were  to  make 
an  anti-Fascist  or  anti-Nazi  film?  In  other  words,  they  welcome  the 
first  but  oppose  the  latter? 

Mr.  Wood.  If  you  would  read  the  review  of  that  meeting  of  the 
"thought  conference"  held  at  Beverly  Hills  Hotel  you  would  know 
exactly  what  was  in  their  mind.  It  is  only  one  thing.  It  is  not 
America.  As  far  as  investigation  is  concerned,  we  would  welcome  an 
investigation.     Our  books  are  open  to  you  at  any  time. 

]Mr.  Nixox.  You  have  indicated  that  the  main  success  of  those  who 
follow  the  Communist  line  in  Hollywood  has  not  been  in  what  they 
have  been  able  to  get  into  i)ictures  but  what  they  have  been  able  to 
get  out  ? 

Mr.  AVooD.  I  think  they  are  both  dangerous,  but  I  think  what  they 
keep  out  is  doubly  dangerous.  You  wouldn't  notice  that.  If  the 
script  is  accepted,  you  don't  check  back.  I  do.  I  generally  go  back 
over  the  book  and  try  to  check  to  see  if  anything  important  was  left 
out.  But  if  they  don't  check  back,  they  leave  things  out  that  puts 
this  country  and  our  way  of  living  in  a  favorable  light. 


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Mr.  Nixon.  In  addition,  they  might  also  be  interested  in  keeping 
out  of  the  fihiis  anything  that  ^vas  derogatory  of  the  Communist 
system  of  Government? 

Mr.  Wood.  Oh,  my  heavens,  yes ;  oh,  yes. 

Mr.  Nixon.  But  they  would  have  no  interest  in  keeping  out  of  the 
film  anything  that  was  derogatory  of  a  Fascist  or  the  Nazi  system  of 
government ;  that  is  true  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  Pardon  me.     I  didn't  get  that. 

Mr.  Nixon.  They  wouldn't  be  interested  in  keeping  out  of  the  film 
anything  derogatory  of  nazism  or  fascism? 

Mr.  Wood.  No, 

Mr.  Nixon.  Which  illustrates  the  point  I  was  trying  to  make  in 
a  rather  lengthy  way — that  their  interest  is  only  when  it  comes  to 
keeping  anti-Communist  things  out  of  a  picture. 

Mr.  Wood.  You  see,  if  I  may  offer  something  there,  these  new  names 
of  fronts  ai'e  used.  They  start  a  front,  and  they  milk  it.  Where  the 
money  goes,  you  don't  know.  They  come  out  and  say  they  have  a 
Greek  relief.  Everybody  wants  to  give  to  the  Greek  relief.  Checking 
into  it,  it  is  found  it  has  gone  to  the  guerrillas.  Half  of  the  people  that 
give  money — people  feel  they  want  to  conti'ibute  to  a  good  cause — they 
don't  know  the  purpose  for  which  the  money  is  given;  they  don't  know 
where  the  money  goes.  These  organizations  take  one  and  milk  it  and 
start  a  new  one.  Sometimes  they  overlap  and  one  is  carried  on  over 
the  other. 

Mr.  NixoN.  If  Hollywood  were  to  make  a  picture  pointing  out  the 
methods  used — a  factual  picture  pointing  out  the  methods  used  and 
which  have  been  used  in  Europe  and  are  used  at  the  present  time  by 
the  ConuTiunists  in  taking  over  various  governments  now  behind  the 
iron  curtain,  a  picture  similar  to  those  made  about  the  Nazis  before 
World  War  II,  would  you  anticipate  serious  opposition  from  this 
group  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  They  would  try  every  possible  way  to  stop  it,  of  course. 

Mr.  NixoN.  Is  that  one  of  the  reasons  such  pictures  have  not  been 
made  in  the  past  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  No;  I  don't  think  so.  I  think  at  the  present  time  the 
studio  heads  rather  feel  that  anything  having:  to  do  with  war  at  the 
present  time  is  not  a  good  subject.  I  don't  think  anyone  would  hesi- 
tate to  make  it  if  there  were  a  good  story  presented. 

Mr.  NixoN.  To  get  clearly  your  attitude — because  I  think  it  is  im- 
portant that  we  draw  the  lines  pretty  clearly — from  what  you  have 
indicated  you  believe  that  no  control — or  shall  we  say  criticism — 
should  be  "directed  toward  Hollywood  for  making  pictures  like  the 
ones  Mr.  Stripling  described,  which  may  point  out  the  sordid  side  of 
life  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  think  it  would  be  a  great  mistake  to  have  that  censor- 
ship.   It  might  rectify  something  that  is  wrong  with  our  system. 

Mr.  Nixon.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  isn't  it  true  that  there  are  many 
pictures  which  point  out  the  weak  features  of  our  own  American  sys- 
tem which  have  been  made  by  people  whose  loyalty,  insofar  as  com- 
munism is  concerned,  is  absolutely  unquestioned?  In  other  words, 
peoi)le' who  are  anti-Communist  have  made,  and  will  continue  to  make, 
pictures  which  point  uj)  weaknesses  in  our  American  system? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir;  if  it  is  a  good  subject,  they  make  it. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  believe  it  is  essential  to  maintain  that  privilege? 


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Mr.  W( »()!).  Yes,  sir ;  I  do.  It  is  very  important.  I  think  we  should 
have  freedom  to  make  the  thini^s  that  are  important.  There  may  be 
something-  that  you  want  to  show,  and  it  is  important  that  it  be  shown 
to  the  ])ublic. 

Mr.  Nixox.  Then  your  objection  is  simply  that  you  believe  it  is 
essential  that  the  knife  cut  both  ways — that  pictures  can  be  made 
pointing  out  the  true  state  of  conditions  in  the  United  States — 
pictures  can  be  made  pointing  out  the  good  features  of  our  system 
of  government  and  our  economic  system,  as  well  as  the  bad ;  but  what 
you  object  to  is  the  line  which  is  followed  by  some  of  the  people  in 
Hollywood  who  are  interested  only  in  pointing  up  that  side  which 
will  promote  eventually  the  changing  of  our  system  of  government 
and  setting  up  in  its  place  a  Communist  system  of  government? 

Mr.  AVooD.  Very  definitely;  yes;  I  agree. 

Mr.  Nixox.  What  is  involved  is  that  those  who  follow  the  Com- 
munist line  in  Hollywood  believe  in  a  free  screen  and  a  free  press 
and  free  speech  only  for  the  purpose  of  pointing  up  and  advocating 
their  own  political  ideas  and  the  system  of  government  which  they 
would  like  to  set  up  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Wood.  Yes,  sir;  the  only  reason  they  support  that  idea  is  to 
tear  us  down.    That  is  all. 

The  CiTAiRMAX.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  no  questions  to  ask  Mr. 
Wood,  but  I  would  like  to  commend  this  gentleman  for  the  w^ork  that 
he  is  doing  out  there,  for  the  vigorous  energy  that  he  has  piled  into 
this  work,  and  remind  you  with  a  great  deal  of  pride  that  Mr.  Wood 
is  a  Pennsylvanian  and  has  exhibited  here  some  very  rugged  Pennsyl- 
vanian  characteristics. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  ]Mr.  AVood,  I  have  been  much  interested  in  your  state- 
ment to  the  eft'ect  that  you  have  neither  writers  nor  actors  on  your 
pay  roll  having  Communist  tendencies. 

Mr.  AVooD.  Yes.  sir. 

Mr.  A^AiL.  I  take  it  you  heard  the  testimony  of  Mr.  Warner  this 
morning? 

Mr.  AA^ooD.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Vail.  If  so,  you  heard  Mr.  Warner  say  he  has  certain  scruples 
against  releasing  individuals  from  his  pay  roll  for  such  tendencies 
because  of  the  danger  of  depriving  them  of  their  livelihood. 

Mr.  AA''  months. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Mayer,  these  hearings  haven't  anything  to  do 
with  the  promptness,  have  they? 

Mr.  May'i:r.  No,  no;  it  is  just  out  now,  called  Vespers  in  Vienna. 
The  script  is  about  ready.  The  original  title  was  The  Red  Danube. 
The  Book  of  the  Month  Club  wanted  the  other  title,  and  so  we  agreed 
with  the  author  that  the  publisher  use  the  other  title  "Vespers  in 
Vienna."  It  takes  several  months  to  lick  a  big  book  like  that,  but  it 
is  almost  ready  to  start  production. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Mayer,  are  you  fainiiiai-  with  tlie  picture  Ten- 
nessee Johnson  ? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Yes.  sir;  we  made  it. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  recall  at  the  time  you  made  it,  or  just  before, 
did  you  receive  any  protests  from  any  individuals  in  the  studio  against 
making  the  picture? 

Mr.  Mayer.  There  was  quite  a  lot  of  confusion  about  that  picture, 
and  I  think  I  yelled  as  loud  as  anybody  about  some  scenes  which  I 
didn't  think  were  good. 

Mr.  Smith.  Why  w^as  that  ? 

yir.  Mayer.  AVell.  because  I  didn't  believe  it. 

Mr.  Smith.  Did  you  receive  a  protest  from  any  individuals,  do  you 
recall? 

Mr.  Mayer.  I  don't  recall,  Mr.  Smith.  If  you  will  remind  me,  I 
will  be  glad  to  tell  you. 

Mr,  Smith.  That  is  all  the  questions  at  this  time. 


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Mr.  McDowEi.L.  What  was  the  name  of  this  picture  yon  are  talking 
about  ? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Tennessee  Johnson. 

The  CiiAiK]\rAN.  Is  tliat  all  tlie  (juestions  you  have  at  this  time? 

Mr.  SMrrii.  It  is;  yes,  sir. 

The  C^HAiRMAx.  ]\Ir.  Wotxl. 

Mr.  AVooi).  Since  you  have  been  in  the  production  business,  Mr. 
ISIaj^er,  ai)proximately  how  many  pictures  have  you  made? 

Mr.  Mayeh.  About"  1,200.  ])]-ol)"ably. 

Mr.  Wood.  AVhat  criticism,  if  any,  has  there  been  from  the  public 
or  the  j)ress  oi'  the  (lovernment  leveled  against  any  of  them  that  you 
have  made? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Well.  Mr.  C'onoressman,  we  have  always  received  great 
approbation,  until  this  tiling  s-tarted,  about  this  picture  Song  of 
Russia. 

Mr.  Wool).  Well,  about  the  time  that  you  made  Song  of  Russia — by 
the  way,  at  that  time  we  w^ere  engaged  in  a  war  in  which  Russia  was 
one  of  our  allies,  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Wood.  Perhaps  that  is  one  of  the  reasons  that  the  committee 
wanted  to  hear  from  you.  with  reference  to  the  underlying  reasons 
that  prompted  the  production  of  that  particular  picture.  Can  you 
give  us  any  more  enlightenment  on  that  ? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Yes.  As  I  told  you,  we  made  Joe  Smith,  the  American, 
which  was  an  incentive  to  war  workers.  Then  we  made  one  that  the 
(Tovermnent  was  terribly  anxious  to  have  made,  those  who  used  to  come 
and  visit  us,  to  show  the  industrial  strength  of  America.  We  called 
that  picture  American  Romance,  in  technicolor.  It  showed  an  immi- 
grant, coming  from  Sweden,  getting  b}^  the  Statue  of  Liberty.  And 
through  Ellis  Island,  he  walks  out  to  Minnesota,  to  the  iron  mines, 
where  he  had  some  relations — walking  across  the  country,  getting  a 
ride  here  and  there.  He  became  a  Henry  Ford  under  our  system, 
Avhicli  makes  that  possible.     He  became  a  great  industrialist. 

Mr.  Wood.  That  was  the  American 

Mr.  Mayer.  American  Romance,  in  technicolor. 

Mr.  W(h;d.  Mr.  Mayer,  I  believe  buck  in  May  of  this  year  you  made 
a  talk  before  tlie  Ne\vsi)aper  Advertising  Executives  Association,  in 
San  Francisco;  is  that  right? 

Mr.  Mayer.  Yes.  sir. 

Mr.  Wood.  About  the  Tth  of  May,  was  it  ? 

Mr.  Mayer.   Yes,  sir;  I  think  it  was. 

Mr.  AVooD.  I  find  in  the  Congressional 

Mr.  Mayer.  July  7. 

Mr.  Wood.  I  find  in  the  Congressional  Record,  under  date  of  July 
1;")  of  this  year,  an  iiisei-tion  in  tlie  Congressional  Record  by  Hon.  Gor- 
d  to  be  exact. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  Hollywood? 

Miss  Rand.  Yes. 

Mr.  Strii>ling.  Would  you  give  the  committee  a  break-down  of  your 
summary  of  the  picture  relating  to  either  propaganda  or  an  untruthful 
account  or  distorted  account  of  conditions  in  Russia? 

]\Iiss  Rand.  Yes. 

First  of  all  I  would  like  to  define  what  we  mean  by  propaganda. 
We  have  all  been  talking  about  it,  but  nobody 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  talk  into  the  microphone  ? 

Miss  Rand.  Can  you  hear  me  now  ? 

Nobody  has  stated  just  what  they  mean  by  propaganda.  Now,  I 
use  the  term  to  mean  that  Communist  propaganda  is  anything  which 
gives  a  good  impression  of  communism  as  a  way  of  life.  Anything 
that  sells  peo})le  the  idea  that  life  in  Russia  is  good  and  that  people 
are  free  and  happy  would  be  Communist  propaganda.  Am  I  not 
correct  ?  I  mean,  would  that  be  a  fair  statement  to  make — that  that 
would  be  Communist  propaganda? 
/■""T^ow,  here  is  what  the  picture  Song  of  Russia  contains.  It  starts 
/  with  an  American  conductor,  played  by  Robert  Taylor,  giving  a  con- 
j  cert  in  America  for  Russian  war  relief.  He  starts  playing  the  Amer- 
ican national  anthem  and  the  national  anthem  dissolves  into  a  Russian 
mob,  with  the  sickle  and  hammer  on  a  I'ed  flag  very  prominent  above 
their  heads.  I  am  sorry,  but  that  made  me  sick.  That  is  something 
which  I  do  not  see  how  native  Americans  permit,  and  I  am  only  a 
naturalized  Amei'ican.  That  was  a  terrible  touch  of  propaganda.  As 
a  writer,  I  can  tell  you  just  exactly  what  it  suggests  to  the  people. 
It  suggests  literally  and  technically  that  it  is  quite  all  right  for  the 
American  national  anthem  to  dissolve  into  the  Soviet.  The  term  here 
is  more  than  just  technical.  It  really  was  symbolically  intended, 
and  it  worked  out  that  way.  The  anthem  continues,  played  by  a 
Soviet  band.     That  is  the  beginning  of  the  picture. 

Now  we  go  to  the  pleasant  love  story.  Mr.  Taylor  is  an  American 
who  came  there  apparently  voluntarily  to  conduct  concerts  for  the 
Soviet.  He  meets  a  little  Russian  girl  from  a  village  who  comes  to 
him  and  begs  him  to  go  to  her  village  to  direct  concerts  there.  There 
are  no  GPU  agents  and  nobody  stops  her.  She  just  comes  to  Moscow 
and  meets  hifn.  He  falls  for  her  and  decides  he  will  go,  because  he  is 
falling  in  love.  He  asks  her  to  show  him  Moscow.  She  says  she  has 
never  seen  it.     He  says,  "I  will  show  it  to  you." 

They  see  it  together.  The  i)icture  then  goes  into  a  scene  of  Moscow, 
supposedly.  I  don't  know  where  the  studio  got  its  shots,  but  I  have 
never  seen  anything  like  it  in  Russia.  First  you  see  JNIoscoav  build- 
ings— big,  prosperous-looking,  clean  buildings,  with  something  like 


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swans  ov  sailboats  in  the  foreground.  Then  you  see  a  Moscow  res- 
taurant that  just  never  existed  there.  In  my  time,  when  I  was  in 
Russia,  there  was  only  one  such  restaurant,  which  was  nowhere  as 
luxurious  as  that  and  no  one  could  enter  it  except  commissars  and 
l)rofiteers.  Certainly  a  ^irl  from  a  villapy. 


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If  you  doubt  this,  I  will  just  ask  you  one  question.  Visualize  a  pic- 
ture in  your  own  mind  as  laid  in  Nazi  Germany.  If  anybody  laid 
a  plot  just  based  on  a  pleasant  little  romance  in  Germany  and  played 
AVa^ner  music  and  said  that  people  are  just  happy  there,  would  you 
say  that  that  was  propa^randa  or  not,  when  you  know  what  life  in 
Germany  was  and  what  kind  of  concentration  camps  tliey  had  there. 
You  would  not  dare  to  put  just  a  happy  love  story  into  Germany,  and 
for  every  one  of  the  same  reas(ms  you  should  not  do  it  about  Russia. 

ISIr.  Stripling.  That  is  all  I  have,  Mr.  Chairuuin. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood.  I  a.,  February  18,  1890. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  in  the  motion-picture  in- 
dustry ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Thirty-four  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  how  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Twenty-seven  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  were  you  in  the  First  World  War? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  the  armed  services? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir.  I  served  abroad  for  2  years.  I  was  in  the 
Army  3  years.  1  year  in  America.  I  served  in  Italy,  with  the 
Italian  Army,  being  attached  to  the  Italian  Army:  attached  to  the 
French  Army;  and  with  the  Fifth  Division  until  the  surrendei-  on 
November  11,  1918. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  in  World  War  II  t 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  served  6  months  with  the  U.  S.  Camp  Shows,  Inc., 
entertaining  troops — for  4  months  in  England,  2  months  in  North 
Africa,  Sicily,  Tunisia,  Algeria,  Morrocco.  Brazil,  and  the  Caribbean. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou.  have  you  made  a  study  of  the  subject 
of  communism,  the  activities  of  the  Communists,  in  anv  j)articular 
field  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Menjoit.  I  have.  I  have  made  a  more  particular  study  of  Marx- 
ism, Fabian  socialism,  communism,  Stalinism,  and  its  jjrobable  effects 
on  the  American  people,  if  they  ever  gain  power  here. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Based  upon  your  stucfy,  have  you  observed  any 
Communist  activity  in  the  motion-picture  industry  or  in  Hollywood, 
as  we  commonly  refer  to  it  ^ 

Mr.  Menjott.  I  Avould  like  to  get  the  terminologies  completely 
straight.  Connnunistir  activities — I  would  rather  phrase  it  un- 
American  or  subversive,  antifi'ee  enteri)rifse.  anticapitalistic.  I  have 
seen — pai'don  me. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  observed  any  Connnunist  propaganda  in 
pictures,  or  un-American  j)roi)aganda  in  pictures  which  were  pro- 
duced in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Menjoit.  I  have  seen  no  connnunistic  pro])aganda  in  ])ictures — 
if  you  mean  ""vote  for  Stalin,"  or  that  type  of  connnunistic  propa- 
ganda. I  don't  think  that  tlie  Communists  are  stupid  enough  to  try 
it  that  way.  I  have  seen  in  certain  pictures  things  I  didn't  think 
should  have  been  in  the  pictures. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  tell  the  connnittee  whether  or  !U)t  there 
has  been  an  effort  on  the  part  of  any  particular  group  in  the  motion- 
picture  industry  to  inject  Cimmuinist  propaganda  into  pictures  or 
to  leave  out  scenes  oi-  parts  of  stories  which  would  serve  the  Com- 
mnnist  Party  line? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  don't  like  that  term  "Connnunist  ])ropaganihi,"" 
because  I  have  seen  no  such  tiling  as  Connnunist  pro})agan(hi.  sucli 
as  waving  (he  liannner  and  sickle  in  motion  pictures.  I  have  seen 
things  that  I  thought  were  against  what  I  considered  good  American- 
ism, in  my  feeling.  I  have  seen  pictures  I  thought  shouldn't  have 
been  made — shouldn't  have  been  made,  let  me  ])ut  it  that  way. 


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Tlie  Chairman.  May  I  interrupt  just  a  minute.  I  want  the  record 
to  show  that  Mr.  AVood  is  here.  We  now  have  a  quorum  of  the  full 
connnittee. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  do  you  have  any  particular  pictures 
in  mind 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well 


Mr.  SxRirLiNG.  When  j^ou  make  that  statement? 

Mr.  Menjou.  AA'ell,  1  wonder  if  I  could  preface  it  by  a  short 
statement  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes,  if  you  please. 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  am  not  here  to  smear.  I  am  here  to  defend  the 
industry,  that  I  have  spent  the  greater  part  of  my  life  in.  I  am  here 
to  defend  the  producers  and  the  motion-picture  industry. 

Now,  you  wanted  me  to  name  a  picture  ? 

The  Chairman.  May  I  interrupt  before  you  name  a  picture? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  am  sorry. 

The  Chairman.  I  want  to  say  that  the  committee  is,  also,  not  here 
to  smear  the  industry  or  to  smear  people  working  in  the  industry. 
Tlie  committee  wants  to  get  the  facts,  and  only  the  facts.  We  are 
going  toliear  both  sides  of  all  of  these  questions.  We  want  to  make 
it  very  clear  that  the  committee  is  not  out  to  censor  the  screen. 

Proceed,  Mr.  Menjou. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Will  you  repeat  the  question,  please? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.  Well,  we  will  approach  it  this  way.  We  have 
had  testimony  here  to  the  effect  that  writers  who  were  members  of 
the  Screen  Writers  Guild  have  attempted  to  inject  un-American  propa- 
ganda into  motion  pictures.  Are  you  aware  that  that  is  the  case, 
or  has  been  the  case,  in  Hollj'wood  at  any  time? 

]\Ir.  Menjou.  I  don't  think  that  I  am  competent  to  answer  that 
question.  I  am  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild,  and  I  think  a 
member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  would  be  far  more  competent 
to  answer  that.  If  you  want  to  ask  me  if  I  know  of  any  un-American 
propaganda  in  any  pictures  that  I  appeared,  I  wall  be  glad  to  give 
you  my  thoughts. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  j^ou  give  an  example? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  don't  think  the  picture  Mission  to  Moscow  should 
have  been  made.  It  was  a  perfectly  completely  dishonest  picture. 
If  it  was  to  have  been  an  adaptation,  of  the  book  by  Mr.  Davies  it 
should  have  included  the  entire  story  in  Moscow,  including  the  Mos- 
cow trials  where  Mr.  Davies  was  a  witness  and  over  wdiich  Mr.  Vishin- 
sky  presided.  That  was  not  in  the  picture.  Therefore,  I  consider 
that  a  completely  dishonest  picture  and  distortion  of  the  adaptation 
of  the  book. 

I  also  do  not  think  that  the  jjicture  North  Star  was  a  true  picture, 
from  what  I  have  been  able  to  learn  after  reading  over  150  books  on 
the  subject.  This  was  a  picture  showing  the  German  attack  on  the 
Russians  and  certain  parts  of  it  were  not  true.  It  has  been  quite 
some  time  ago  since  I  saw  the  picture.  I  thought  that  picture  would 
have  been  better  unmade.  Fortunately,  those  pictures  were  unsuc- 
cessful. 

Mr.  Stripling.  As  a  generality,  would  you  say  that  the  more  enter- 
taining the  picture  is,  the  better  opportunit}'^  there  might  be  to  put 
across  propaganda  ? 

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94  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes.  The  better  the  entertainment  the  more  dan- 
gerous the  propaganda  becomes,  once  it  is  injected  into  the  picture. 

Mr.  Striplin(}.  Do  you  know  of  any  anti-Communist  pictures  that 
are  being  prcxUiced  in  Hollywood  at  the  present  time? 

Mr.  Menjou.  No,  sir;  I  do  not.  And  I  would  like  to  see  one.  I 
think  the  pi-oducers  of  anti-Fascist  pictures  should  turn  around  and 
make  an  anti-Communist  i)icture.  I  believe  it  would  be  an  enormous 
success,  if  it  were  made. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  JNIenjou,  if  a  picture  is  produced,  as  for  example 
Mission  to  Moscow,  which  gives  a  false  portrayal  or  which  has  propa- 
ganda in  it,  who  do  you  hold  responsible  in  your  own  mind  as  a  veteran 
actor  in  the  motion-picture  industry^ 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  believe  that  the  manufacturer  of  any  product 
is  responsible  in  the  end  for  the  quality  of  his  product. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words,  the  producers  would  be  held  respon- 
sible? 

Mr.  Menjou.   They  should  be. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Wliat  do  you  think  could  be  done  to  correct  that '. 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  think  a  great  deal  already  has  been  done.  The 
eternal  vigilance  of  the  Motion  Picture  Alliance  for  the  Preservation 
of  American  Ideals,  by  its  vigilance,  has  prevented  an  enormous 
amount  of  sly,  subtle,  un-American  class-struggle  propaganda  from 
going  into  pictures. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  consider  that  the  alliance  is  doing  a  good 
job ;  that  is,  has  been  doing  a  good  job  i 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  think  they  have  done  a  magnificent  job,  and  I  am 
very  proud  to  be  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild '. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir ;  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  noticed  any  effort  on  the  part  of 
Communist  individuals  to  gain  influence  in  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  i 

]Mr.  ^Ienjou.  I  don't  know  any  members  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild 
who  are  members  of  the  Commimist  Party.  I  have  never  seen  their 
cards.  I  am  a  firm  believer  that  the  Communist  Party  in  the  United 
States  is  a  direct  branch  of  the  Comintern — which,  in  my  opinion, 
has  never  been  dissolved — direct  from  Moscow.  It  is  an  oriental 
tyranny,  a  Kremlin-dominated  conspiracy,  and  it  is  against  the  inter- 
ests of  the  people  to  admit  that  they  are  Communists.  Very  few 
admit  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  your  very  definite  suspicions  about 
some  members  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  f 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  know  a  great  many  people  who  act  an  awful  lot  like 
Communists. 

Mr.  Stripling.  As  an  actor,  Mr.  Menjou,  could  you  tell  the  commit- 
tee whether  or  not  an  actor  in  a  picture  could  portray  a  scene  which 
would  in  effect  serve  as  propaganda  for  communism  or  any  other 
un-American  purpose  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Oh,  yes.  I  believe  that  under  certain  circumstances 
a  communistic  director,  a  communistic  writer,  or  a  communistic  actor, 
even  if  he  were  under  orders  from  the  head  of  the  studio  not  to  inject 
communism  or  un-Amercanism  or  subversion  into  pictures,  could  easily 
subvert  that  order,  under  the  proper  circumstances,  by  a  look,  by  an 
inflection,  by  a  change  in  the  voice.  I  think  it  could  be  easily  done. 
I  have  never  seen  it  done,  but  I  think  it  could  be  done. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  You  don't  know  of  any  examples? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  cannot  think  of  one  at  the  moment,  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling,  Do  you  know  Mr.  John  Cromwell  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  was  identified  before  the  committee  yesterday 
by  Mr.  Sam  Wood  as  being  one  who  sought  to  put  the  Screen  Directors 
Guild  into  the  Red  river.  Do  j^ou  consider  Mi'.  Cromwell  to  be  a 
Communist? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  don't  know  whether  he  is  a  Communist  or  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Does  he  act  like  one  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  In  my  opinion,  he  acts  an  awful  lot  like  one. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  he  ever  make  any  statement  to  you  relative  to- 
his 

Mr.  IVIenjou.  Mr.  Cromwell,  in  his  own  house,  said  to  me  that  cap- 
italism in  America  was  through  and  I  would  see  the  day  when  it  was 
ended  in  America.  A  very  strange  statement  from  a  man  who  earns 
upward  of  $250,000  a  year,  who  owns  a  great  deal  of  Los  Angeles  and 
Hollyv\'ood  real  estate.  It  is  rather  difficult  to  reconcile  that.  He  is 
profiting  by  the  capitalistic  system,  and  yet  he  is  against  it.  He  told 
me  so  with  his  own  lips. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  Mr.  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  do  not  know  Mr.  Sorrell. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  who  he  is,  however? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  know  who  he  is. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  identify  him  for  the  committee? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Mr.  Sorrell,  I  believe,  is  head  of  the  painters'  union. 
I  think  he  is  also  the  head  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  what  have  been  your  observations  re- 
garding Communist  activity  in  Hollywood  in  the  past  10  years  ?  We 
received  testimony  yesterday  that  their  activity  increased  after  1936. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  became  very  much  interested  as  to  what 
socialism  was  during  the  last  war,  when  I  was  stationed  in  the  birth- 
place of  Karl  iNlarx  with  the  Fifth  Division.  It  interested  me  greatlj-. 
I  did  a  considerable  amoiuit  cf  reading.  I  tried  to  wade  through  D.is 
Kapital.  It  was  a  very  difficult  job.  I  read  the  Max  Eastman  con- 
densation of  it.  When  I  got  to  California  later,  we  heard  very,  very 
little  about  it.  Socialism  at  that  time  was  spoken  of.  It  liad  very 
few  followers  in  this  country.  About  1932  or  1933,  when  the  Russiaii 
question  began  to  loom  in  the  picture,  with  the  mass  starvations  of 
the  poor  Russian  peasants  because  they  would  not  conform  to  the 
demands  of  ]\Ir.  Stalin^ — why,  they  shocked  the  world  witli  the  testi- 
mony of  some  of  the  witnesses. 

Then,  later  on,  identified  by  various  committees,  groups  began  to 
be  formed,  which  have  been  labeled,  and  I  think  documented,  as  being 
communistic  front  organizations.  I  particularly  refer  to  the  Inde- 
pendent Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions. 
This  was  labeled  a  Communist  front  organization.  I  understand 
that  at  a  meeting  of  the  board  of  directors  it  refused  to  make  an  anti- 
Communist  statement,  that  the}^  were  anti-Communist,  whereupon 
there  were  wholesale  desertions.  One  of  the  first  was  the  president, 
Mr.  James  Roosevelt.  He  left  the  thing  just  prior  to  the  elections. 
Then  there  were  many,  many  other  people  who  left.  Those  peoplei 
who  still  remained  in  it,  in  my  opinion,  would  be  pro-Connnunist. 


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I  do  not  Tinderstand  any  other  reason  for  a  person  belonging  to  an 
organization  in  whicii  he  knew  Connnunists  were  in  and  w^ere  dom- 
inating. 

Tlien  the  PCA  was  formed.  It  also  refused  to  come  out  with  an 
anti-Communist  platform,  whereupon  the  ADA,  the  Americans  for 
Democratic  Action,  was  formed.  1  believe  by  jStrs.  Roosevelt,  Leon 
Henderson,  Melvin  Douglas,  and  some  other  ijeople.  They  do  not 
j^ermit  Communists  in  their  organization,  I  understand. 
I  wonder  if  I  can  help  you  any  more. 
Mr.  SxiarLTNG.  Yes.     Now,  these  various  front  organizations,  which 

have  sprung  up  in  Hollywood 

Mr.  Menjou.  There  is  the  American  Youth  for  Democracy,  which 
is  the  new  name  for  the  Young  Communist  League. 

I  am  not  an  expert  on  the  organizations  here  in  America,  although 
I  have  a  list  of  names  here  which  I  have  gathered  and  will  be  glad  to 
produce. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Let  me  ask  you  this:  The  committee  has  evidence 
that  there  have  been  numerable  Communist  front  organizations  mush- 
room in  Hollywood.  We  received  testimony  yesterday  from  Mr. 
Wood  to  the  effect  that  they  set  up  an  organization,  and  after  they 
milk  it  dry  they  form  another  one.  In  the  Screen  Actors  Guild,  have 
there  ever  been  any  resolutions  offered  by  any  of  the  members  which 
had  as  their  purpose  to  aid  these  front  organizations  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  was  one  of  the  founders  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild. 
I  think  my  number  is  among  the  first  50.  I  served  for  many  years 
on  its  board,  but  I  have  not  been  active  in  any  of  the  board  of  directors' 
meetings  for  some  7,  8,  or  9  years,  so  I  couldn't  make  a  statement  on 
that.    I  couldn't  answ^er  that  question. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  let  me  ask  you  this 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  think  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors  would  be 
far  more  capable  of  answering  that  question  than  myself. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.  Mr.  Chairman,  we  will  have  officials  of  the 
Screen  Actors  Guild  before  the  committee  later  in  the  week. 

As  a  student  of  communism,  did  you  note  an  increased  alliance  with 
the  Communists  in  Hollywood  during  the  period  of  the  w^ar  emer- 
gency, when  we  had  a  military  allied  relationship  with  the  Soviet 
Union  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  spent  practically  7  months  out  of  every  year 
after  Pearl  Harbor  away,  and  I  was  not  in  Hollywood  most  of  that 
time.    I  find  it  rather  difficult  to  answer  that  question.    Maybe  you 

could  rephrase  it  and  I  could  answer  it.    I  w^as 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  say  that  Communist  activity  increased? 
Mr.  Menjou.  Oh,  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  Hollywood  after  Pearl  Harbor,  1941?  Was  it 
intensified  ? 

Mr.  INIenjou.  It  w^as  intensified  with  the  nonaggression  pact  be- 
tween Mr.  Molotov  and  Mr.  Von  Ribbentrop. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Weren't  some 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  believe  the  date  was  in  1939. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  recall  some  of  the  figures  in  Hollywood  who 
were  very  active  in  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  during  that 
period? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  do  not.  I  am  not  familiar  with  that  part  of  the 
picture  at  all.    I  know  tlie  organization  by  name  only,  and  I  could 


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not  tell  you  the  names  of  that.     Someone  else  who  is  more  familiar 
with  that  will  have  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  say  the  Communists  in  Hollywood  follow 
the  party  line,  directions  laid  down  by  Moscow? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Rigidly. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  is  requested  in  all  of  their  activities  there? 

Mr.  JNIenjou.  Yes,  sir  . 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  elaborate  on  that  point  anj^  Mr.  Menjou? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  am  tryino;  to  thiuk  how  I  can  help  you.  We  have 
had  a  very  disastrous  strike  in  Hollywood,  and  a  very  long  one.  It  has 
been  going  on  now  for  more  than  a  year.  Mr.  Son-ell  is  the  head  of  the 
organization  whose  members  are  out  on  strike.  I  believe,  according  to 
the  testimony  I  have  here,  that  Mr.  Sorrell  is  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  under  the  name  of  Herbert  K.  Stewart.  I  have  a  photo- 
static copy  of  the  purported  Communist  card  and  the  sworn  testimony 
of  Mr.  Sellers,  admittedly  the  w^orld's  greatest  handwriting  expert. 
Based  on  the  fact,  I  believe,  that  Mr.  Sorrell  is  a  Communist,  I  would 
be  very  suspicious  of  any  of  the  people  who  either  stood  on  a  platform 
with  him  or  supported  any  of  his  activities  or  statements.  This  strike 
was  a  particularly  bloody  strike. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  the  committee  have  that  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  photostat. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  We  would  like  to  receive  this  into  evidence,  Mr. 
Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  it  is  so  ordered.-*' 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  of  some  of  the  actors  or  other  people 
who  are  prominent  in  the  motion-picture  industry  who  did  associate 
with  Mr.  Sorrell  in  his  activities  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  attended  a  meeting  of  the  entire  membership  of  the 
Screen  Actors  Guild.  I  am  not  too  certain  of  this  date,  but  it  might 
have  been  a  year  ago.  The  meeting  was  called  in  order  to  try  to  settle 
the  strike.  Now,  the  board  of  directors  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  had 
exerted  all  of  their  efforts  to  settle  this  strike  in  everyway  possible. 
I  think  a  magnificent  job  was  done  by  the  board  of  directors,  particu- 
larly Mr.  Regan,  the  president.  After  long,  long  deliberations  and 
trips  to  Chicago  and  everywhere  else,  they  finally  came  to  the  conclu- 
sion that  it  was  a  jurisdictional  strike  and  could  have  been  settled,  but 
Mr.  Sorrell  did  not  want  to  settle  it.  That  was  the  conclusion  made. 
This  meeting  was  called  by  a  group  of  350  people.  I  think  that  is  the 
necessary  amount,  according  to  our  bylaws,  to  call  such  a  meeting. 
Mr.  Regan  spoke  for,  I  think,  more  than  an  hour  and  a  half,  explain- 
ing the  position  and  the  work  and  the  labors  that  he  had  gone  through 
to  try  to  determine  who  was  right  or  who  was  wrong,  because  there  was 
an  eiffort  being  made  to  call  all  the  actors  out  on  strike,  which  would 
hine  thrown  !-ome  thirty-odd-thousand  people  out  of  work. 

Now,  then,  that  particular  evening  the  opposition  wanted  to  be 
heard.  Mr.  Sorrell  spoke.  Following  Mr.  Sorrell  appeared  Mr.  Ed- 
ward G.  Robinson,  Mr.  Cronin,  Mr.  Alexander  Knox,  and  Mr.  Paul 
Henreid.  They  all  admitted  what  a  wonderful  job  Mr.  Regan  had 
done,  but  they  wanted  the  strike  settled  on  Mr.  Sorrell's  side,  which, 

■"  See  appendix,  p.  525,  for  exhibit  28. 


98  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

in  my  opinion,  would  liave  meant  more  trouble,  more  chaos,  and  no 
solution  to  the  trouble,  excepting  that  the  uni(ms  would  have  been 
under  the  complete  domination  of  thevConununist  Party.  That  is  my 
opinion. 

I  think  sanity  prevailed.  There  was  a  motion  presented  by  myself 
that  the  membership  stand  by  its  duly  elected  board  of  directors,  which 
was  majority  voted,  and  the  meeting  was  over. 

Now,  I  personally  would  never  have  been  seen  with  Mr.  Sorrell  if 
I  coidd  help  it.  He  is  responsible  for  the  most  incredible  brutality — 
beatings,  the  overturning  of  cars  on  private  property  in  front  of  the 
Warner  Bros,  studio,  shocking  parades,  where  one  man  almost  lost  an 
eye  in  front  of  the  MGM  studio — a  most  outrageous  performance  and 
violation  of  the  jiicketing  laws  in  California. 

I  think  he  did  everything  possible  to  embarrass  the  producers.  I 
don't  believe  the  Communist  Party  has  any  intention  of  ever  having 
any  peace  of  any  kind,  and  I  would  regret  the  day  that  a  man  of  Mr. 
Sorrel Ps  characteristics  should  ever  be  in  charge  of  the  labor  unions 
in  California.     God  help  us  if  he  ever  does. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  Mr.  John  Howard  Lawson  ? 

Mr.  Mexjou.  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  heard  of  him? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  him  by  reputation  ? 

]\Ir.  Menjou.  Only  by  hearsay. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  heard  a  charge  that  he  was  head  of 
the  Communist  Party  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  directed  their  affairs? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  have  heard  that,  but  I  cannot  testify  to  it  because 
I  do  not  know. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  he  participated  in  the 
picket  line  at  Warner  Bros,  studio,  when  the  cars  were  overturned  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  do  not  know  that ;  I  am  sorry. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  what  do  you  think  is  the  best  way  to  go 
about  combating  communism  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  think  a  great  deal  already  has  been  done.  The 
first  meeting  of  this  committee  has  already  alerted  many  apathetic 
})eople.  many  people  who  are  not  aware  of  the  incredibly  serious  men- 
ace that  faces  America.  They  don't  take  the  trouble  to  read.  I  am 
huve  that  some  of  my  fellow  actors  who  have  attacked  this  committee 
and  myself  had  they  taken  the  time  to  read  and  study  would  be  of 
exactly  the  same  opinion  as  I  am.  I  believe  that  95  percent  of  the 
l)eo]3le  in  California  are  decent,  honest  American  citizens.  The  Com- 
munist Party  is  a  minority,  but  a  dangerous  minority.  I  believe  that 
the  entire  Nation  should  be  alerted  to  its  menace  today.  In  my  opin- 
ion, the  Commintern  has  never  been  dissolved  and  the  new  Commin- 
foini  which  meets  in  Belgrade  is  simply  an  opening.  No  one  seems  to 
blow  why  they  have  come  out  into  the  open.  They  have  always  been 
underground  before.  The  proof  that  they  are  in  existence  is  the  letter 
from  Mr.  DuBois,  the  pastry  cook,  one  of  the  heads  of  the  Communist 
Party,  wrote  to  the  Conununist  Party  in  New  York,  which  was  pub- 
lished in  the  Daily  Worker,  forced  Mr.  Browder,  the  former  head  of 
the  Communist  P'arty,  out  of  the  party.     Presumably  Mr.  Browder 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  99 

had  no  trouble  getting  a  passport  to  go  to  Moscow  and  returned  to 
represent  the  Connnunist  book  trust  in  New  York.  I  don't  think  any- 
body is  being  fooled  by  this.  But  the  American  people  are  not  alert. 
If  a  Gallup  poll  in  California  shows  that  50  percent  of  the  people  have 
never  heard  of  the  Taft-Hartley  bill,  you  can  imagine  how  apathetic 
and  how  ignorant  most  of  them  are  of  this  subject. 

I  have  a  list  of  books  here — I  published  a  list  of  over  35  books — and 
if  you  will  bear  with  me  and  if  I  have  the  time  I  would  like  to  read  a 
list  of  books  which  I  would  advise  every  man,  woman,  and  child  in 
America  to  read.  They  will  then  get  a  picture  of  this  oriental  tyranny, 
this  Commmiist-dominated  conspiracy  to  take  the  world  over  by  force. 
It  will  take  the  words  out  of  Mr.  Lenin's  mouth,  out  of  Mr.  Stalin's 
mouth.  Mr.  Molotov  is  a  member  of  the  Politburo.  Mr.  Vishinsky 
I  consider  simply  a  puppet. 

First,  I  would  like  to  ask  them  to  read  Das  Kapital,  by  Karl  Marx ; 
then  the  Max  Eastman  condensation;  then  a  magnificent  book  called 
The  Ked  Prussian;  The  Dream  We  Lost,  by  Fred  A.  Utley;  Report 
on  Russians,  by  Paul  Winiton,  who  spent  14  years  in  Moscow  as  a  cor- 
respondent; Towards  Soviet  America,  by  William  Z.  Foster,  present 
head  of  the  Communist  Party  in  America,  where  on  page  275  he  ad- 
vocates the  liquidation  of  the  American  Legion,  the  rotary  clubs,  all 
fraternal  organizations,  arming  of  the  farmers  and  arming  of  the 
workers,  with  a  dictatorship  of  the  proletariat  to  take  America  over 
by  force.  That  is  page  275  of  Towards  Soviet  America.  You  will 
have  trouble  getting  the  book.     You  will  have  to  advertise  for  it. 

Yogi  and  the  Commissar,  by  Arthur  Koestler,  one  of  the  magnifi- 
cent writers  living  today  who  was  a  Communist  member  of  the  party. 
He  spent  a  great  deal  of  time  in  Russia.  Dark  Side  of  the  Moon.  1 
defy  anyone  to  read  that  without  being  frightened  to  death.  That  is 
a  documentary  testimony,  edited  by  T.  S.  Elliott,  of  the  1,750,000, 
estimated,  Poles,  innocent  Polish  people  taken  into  concentration 
camps  by  the  Russians  in  early  1939.  The  three  books  by  Mr.  Dallin, 
particularly  his  book,  which  will  be  in  Look  magazine,  Slave  Labor  in 
Communist  Russia.  Over  at  Uncle  Joe's,  a  magnificent  book  by 
Atkinson;  Russian  Report,  by  William  White;  I  Chose  Freedom,  by 
Victor  Kravechenko;  One  Who  Survived;  Why  They  Behave  Like 
Russians,  by  Fisher;  In  Search  of  Soviet  Gold,  by  Littlepage;  and 
one  of  the  best  books  of  all,  Pattern  for  World  Revolution,  written 
anonymously. 

This  is  only  a  very,  very  small  list  of  books,  but  I  guarantee  you 
that  anyone  that  reads  them  will  fear  for  the  safety  of  America. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  yesterday  Mr.  Wood,  Mr.  Sam  Wood, 
testified  that  he  considered  members  of  the  Communist  Party  in  this 
country  to  be  the  agents  of  a  foreign  i)rincipal.  Do  you  share  that 
opinion  with  Mr.  Wood? 

Mr.  Menjol;.  The  members  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  United 
States  unquestionably,  in  my  mind,  are  agents  of  the  Commintern  in 
Moscow  or  the  Coinminform  in  Belgi'ade,  or  wherever  it  is.  The 
papers  found,  on  I  think  it  was  Professor  May,  who  is  now  in  jail, 
the  Polish-born  member  of  the  Canadian  Parliament,  would  prove 
to  me  conclusively  that  the  Commintern  has  never  stopped  working. 
This  was  a  sop  to  America. 


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Mr.  Strii'lixg.  Do  you  consider  that  the  Communist  Party  members 
in  this  countr}^  are  onftaged  in  treasonable  activities? 

Mr.  Men.tou.  Deiiiiitely. 

Mr.  S'rKirLixG.  Mr.  Menjou,  this  committee  also  has  a  legislative 
function  as  well  as  an  investigative  function.  During  this  session 
there  were  two  bills  introduced  Avhich  sought  to  outlaw  the  Commu- 
nist Party.  Do  you  think  that  the  Communist  Party  should  be  out- 
lawed by  legislation? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  believe  that  the  Communist  Party  in  the  United 
States  should  be  outlawed  by  the  Congress  of  the  United  States.  It  is 
not  a  i)olitical  party.  It  is  a  conspiracy  to  take  over  our  Government 
by  force,  which  would  enslave  the  American  people,  as  the  Soviet  Gov- 
ernment— 14  members  of  the  Politburo — hold  the  Russian  people  in 
abject  slavery.  Any  one  of  a  dozen  books  will  prove  it.  This  is  not 
hearsay.  Dozens  of  other  testimony  will  prove  what  horrors  are 
going  on  in  Russia  today,  so  horrible  that  you  cannot  read  them 
without  becoming  ill. 

Now,  we  don't  want  that  here. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Menjou,  there  has  been  quite  a  bit  said 
and  written  in  the  Communist  publications  and  certain  left-wing 
organizations  have  circulated  pamphlets  to  the  effect  that  this  com- 
mittee is  trying  to  bring  about  thought  control. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  also  have  heard  many  other  words — "witch- 
hunting."  I  am  a  witch-hunter  if  the  witches  are  Communists.  I  am  a 
Red-baiter.  I  make  no  bones  about  it  whatsoever.  I  would  like  to  see 
them  all  back  in  Russia.  I  think  a  taste  of  Russia  would  cure  many 
of  them.  Unfortunately,  people  in  Europe  who  have  not  faced  the 
Russians  do  not  realize  the  method.  That  is  one  of  the  great  troubles 
in  France.  They  are  faced  with  French  Communists  and  not  Russians. 
All  of  those  nations — Rumania,  Bulgaria,  Hungary,  Austria,  the 
Russian  zone  in  Germany — that  have  had  to  come  in  contact  with  the 
Russian  Army  realize  what  a  menace  this  is. 

There  would  have  been  much  more  of  an  overwhelming  vote  for 
General  De  Gaulle  if  these  people  realized  it.  They  don't  realize  it. 
They  don't  read.  They  don't  study.  The  masses  of  Russian  officers 
who  have  come  to  the  American  headquarters  and  asked  how  they  can 
get  into  America.  The  escape  of  the  Russian  general  who  is  now  in 
Buenos  Aires.  The  capture  of  the  young  senior  lieutenant  who  tried 
to  commit  suicide  rather  than  to  return  to  his  country.  With  the 
hundreds  of  suicides  of  those  who  faced  return  there,  I  think  it  is 
shocking  that  the  United  States  should  ever  return  anybody  back  to 
the  Soviet  Union. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Menjou,  yesterday  there  was  placed  in  the 
record  the  salaries  of  three  writers  who  were  employed  in  the  motion- 
picture  industry,  whose  salaries  exceeded  $70,000  yer  year.  They  had 
been  identified  as  Communists,  and  the  committee  had  records  con- 
cerning these  three  men.  How  do  you  account  for  a  person  who  would 
have  such  an  income  subscribing  to  the  Comnuniist  philosophy  ? 

Mr.  IMenjou.  Well,  Frederick  Engels,  who  supported  Karl  Marx 
his  entire  life,  was  a  millionaire.  He  had  a  very  large  textile  factory 
in  Germanv  and  a  very  large  one  in  England.  We  find  crackpots  every- 
where. We  have  in  California  what  I  call  the  lunatic  fringe,  the 
political  idiots,  the  morons,  the  dangerous  Communists,  and  those  who 
have  yet  to  be  convinced.  '  I  don't  accuse  anybody,  because  we  are 


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curing  people  every  day.  Tliere  has  been  an  amazing  change  in  Holly- 
wood in  the  attitude  of  many  people  since  this  connnittee  has  started 
to  function  and  also  due  to  the  activities  of  the  INIotion  Picture  Alliance. 
These  people  only  have  to  be  told  and  have  to  see.  The  only  danger- 
ous one  is  the  hard,  disciplined  core  of  the  Communist  Party  them- 
selves. These  people  I  do  not  know.  I  have  never  seen  one.  The  only 
Communist  I  ever  met  was  Mr.  Maisky,  the  Ambassador  to  London, 
and  I  fear  he  has  either  been  liquidated  or  shunted  off  somewhere  for 
some  deviation.  His  name  has  disappeared  completely  from  the 
newspapers. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  those  are  all  the  questions  I  have  at 
this  time. 

The  Chairman".  Mr,  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood.  Mr.  Menjou,  do  I  understand  from  your  testimony  that 
it  is  your  opinion  that  the  producers  themselves  and  the  responsible 
studio  heads  in  Hollywood  are  not  communistic  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  They  are  as  fine  a  group  of  men  as  I  ever  met.  I 
have  worked  with  them  for  34  years,  and  I  don't  think  any  of  them 
are  Communists.  I  think  due  to  the  fact  that  the  Communist  Party 
in  America  is  a  legal  party  has  prevented  them  from  taking  certain 
action  against  very  excellent  writers.  There  are  some  very  excellent 
writers  among  those  leftist  writers.  They  don't  have  to  always  write 
communistically,  at  all.  Some  of  them  have  contributed  much  to 
some  of  our  finest  motion  pictures,  in  which  there  was  no  communism 
whatsoever, 

I  think  the  producers  in  California,  as  I  say,  are  as  patriotic  a  group 
of  Americans  as  you  will  meet  anywhere.  • 

Mr.  Wood.  It  was  suggested  yesterday  in  the  testimony  of  one  of 
the  witnesses  by  a  member  of  the  committee  that  the  producers  them- 
selves should  get  together  and  by  concerted  action  eliminate  these 
people  who  are  affected  with  Communist  tendencies  from  the  in- 
dustry. Do  you  agree  with  me  that  that  would  involve  or  not  involve 
some  very  serious  legal  implications  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  believe  it  would. 

Mr.  Wood.  Under  existing  law? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  spoke  to  Senator  Taft  about  that  the  other  day,  and 
he  n  creed  also. 

Mr.  Wood.  Would  you  then  feel  that  a  recommendation  to  the 
Congress  by  this  committee  to  so  modify  existing  law  as  to  permit 
just  that  to  be  done  would  have  a  wholesale  effect? 

Mr.  Menjou.  ISIr.  Wood,  I  feel  this  way :  If  the  Communists  would 
come  out  in  the  open,  let  us  know  who  they  are,  because  they  can  be 
watched.  I  am  told  by  Mr.  Edgar  Hoover,  who  is  a  very  close  personal 
friend  of  mine,  that  he  is  against  driving  the  Communist  Party  under- 
ground. They  are  now  underground.  I  want  to  bring  them  out  so 
we  can  see  who  they  are.  I  feel,  about  pictures,  that  propaganda 
pictures  should  be  labeled  propaganda  as  such  and  propaganda  should 
be  not  injected  into  entertainment.  I  feel  that  if  an  anti-Fascist 
picture  is  made,  an  anti-Communist  picture  should  be  made  next, 
because  I  am  anti-Fascist  as  well  as  I  am  anti-Communist.  The 
German-American  Bund  was  driven  underground,  if  you  want  to 
call  it  such.  I  believe  all  their  members  are  known.  But  they  cannot 
go  on  the  air.     The}?^  cannot  have  meetings.     They  cannot  get  con- 


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verts.  Therefore,  tliey  ai-e  made  impotent.  I  want  to  know  tliese 
Communists.  We  want  to  see  them.  I  am  not  afraid  of  communism 
in  America  if  it  is  out  in  the  open.  I  am  not  afraid.  The  American 
people  will  reject  it  openly,  if  they  know  what  it  is.  I  would  like 
to  see  it  outlawed. 

Mr.  Wood.  That  is  all,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  CiiAiRjiAN.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Menjou,  on  this  matter  of  outlawing  the  Com- 
munist Party,  the  party  has  been  outlawed  in  Canada,  Panama,  and 
various  other  nations  of  the  world.  So  far  as  I  could  study  their 
situations,  the  results  haven't  been  much  different.  There  are  many 
Communists  now  in  Canada.  Canada  now  faces  the  business  of  arrest- 
ing those  that  are  known  Communists  and  proven  Communists.  They 
go  through  trials.  But  it  hasn't  apparently  slowed  the  number  of 
Communists  that  are  in  Canada. 

Mr.  Menjou.  You  are  not  going  to  slow  down  the  hard  core  of  the 
disciplined  Communist.  He  is  going  to  be  there  all  the  time.  He 
simply  has  to  be  watched. 

To  take  the  producers  in  the  picture  business — if  I  may  partially 
answer  Mr.  Wood  again — a  man,  let  us  say,  like  Mr.  Mayer  or  Mr. 
Warner,  who  testified  yesterday,  it  is  practically  impossible  for  them 
to  see  every  foot  of  film  made  in  their  studios.  They  make  too  many. 
They  haven't  the  time.  They  couldn't  possibly  do  it.  Both  of  them 
are  anti-Communist  to  the  core ;  that  I  know.  You  will  see,  and  have 
seen,  very,  very  little  of  what  I  would  call  anything  like  subversion 
because,  as  I  say,  of  the  activities  of  the  alliance  and  due  to  the  publicity 
that  has  been  giveji  out.  This  publicity  is  healthy.  That  is  why  I  am 
proud  to  be  before  the  committee,  because  these  things  can  be  heard  and 
brought  out.  Being  so  busy  that  they  cannot  do  it,  the  under  producers 
in  the  studio  do  the  engaging  of  the  writers. 

Mr.  Mayer  doesn't  hire  any  writers.  That  is  done  by  other  people. 
Now,  if  these  people  are  watched  constantly,  they  can  do  no  harm. 
They  can't  do  any  harm. 

I  wouldn't  want  to  deprive  anybody  from  making  his  bread  and  but- 
ter. I  think  these  people  can  be  taught.  I  think,  if  their  party  is 
outlawed,  the  thing  that  worries  me  about  the  party  is  its  connection 
with  Moscow,  which  is  dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  this  Government 
by  force,  and  every  other  government.  Any  study  of  the  situation  in 
Bulgaria,  Rumania,  or  Hungary  must  api)all  people.  They  must 
frighten  them  to  death.     We  don't  want  that  here. 

If  the  capitalistic  system  does  as  well  in  the  next  50  years  as  it  has 
done  in  the  last  50,  there  will  be  no  trouble  at  all  in  this  comitry, 
believe  me. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Menjou,  I  believe  I  told  you  last  May,  on  the 
west  coast,  that  of  all  the  thousands  of  people  I  have  discussed  com- 
munism with  you  have  the  most  profound  knowledge  of  the  background 
of  communism  I  have  ever  met. 

With  that  knowledge,  with  your  study  of  Karl  Marx  and  modern 
communism,  I  would  like  to  ask  anothef  question.  There  has  been 
a  great  deal  of  propaganda  in  the  United  States  and  other  countries 
here  in  the  last  2  years  that  the  Soviet  Government  has  relaxed  its 
opposition  to  religion — churches.  I  have  even  heard  speakers  from 
the  Soviet  Union  say  that  church  attendance  was  encouraged.     Do  you 


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think  the  ardent  Soviet  Government  has  changed  in  any  respect  from 
the  original  Marxian  commmiism? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  think  they  were  requested.  I  don't  know  who  made 
the  request.  It  was  somebody  from  the  Government  some  4  or  5  years 
ago  that  requested  they  relax  their  attitude  toward  religion.  The 
Conmiunist  Party  itself  will  never  relax  it.  They  are  anti-God.  They 
are  atheistic,  the  party  itself.  The  Russian  people  are  deeply,  dee])ly 
religious  people,  and  their  cry  for  religion  is  very  great.  They  have 
been  permitted  to  go  to  church,  yes,  but  I  think  that  everybody  has 
been  watched  very  carefully.  Father  Brown,  who  was  the  only  Catho- 
lic priest  permitted  in  Russia  for  many  years,  had  a  small  group  of 
people  coming  to  his  church.  The  government  itself  has  never  i"e- 
laxed  its  attitude  toward  religion  at  all. 

It  is  still  there  in  the  Red  Square  that  "religion  is  the  opiate  ofthe 
masses  and  the  Communist  Party  itself."  They  have  relaxed  nothing, 
nothing.  They  allow  a  few  more  people  to  go  to  church,  but  they 
watch  everybody.  The  secret  police  watch  the  people  so  carefully 
that  they  have  complete  control  over  there.  They  have  complete  con- 
trol.   The  Russian  people  are  completely  enslaved. 

Mr,  Vishinsky  is  enslaved.  Mr.  Molotov  is  enslaved.  They  are  all 
frightened  to  death.  Mr.  Stalin  would  just  as  soon  kill  them  as  look 
at  them.  He  killed  all  his  close  friends.  There  is  excellent  evidence 
that  he  poisoned  Lenin,  Gorky,  and  that  he  also  executed  the  pharma- 
cist, the  head  of  the  NKVD  at  the  time,  who  was  the  witness.  He  acted 
very  much  like  Mr.  Capone.  He  committed  the  murders  and  then 
killed  the  witnesses. 

Mr.  McDowELi..  ]\Ir.  Chairman,  in  addition  to  being  a  great  Ameri- 
can, here  is  one  of  the  greatest  American  patriots  I  have  ever  met. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Menjou,  do  you  think  there  is  justification  for  the 
action  of  this  committee  in  its  instituting  an  investigation  of  Commu- 
nist activities  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Mexjou.  Do  I  think  so?    Certainly. 

Mr.  Vail,.  In  the  daily  papers  in  the  past  few  days  I  noticed  a 
statement  that  was  signed  by  a  number  of  prominent  Hollywood 
actors  and  actresses  deploring  the  investigation  and  describing  it  as  a 
smear.  What  is  your  impression  of  the  people  who  were  signatoi*y  to 
that  statement  ? 

Mr.  Mexjou.  I  am  just  as  shocked  and  amazed — which  I  believe 
were  their  words — as  they  said  they  were  shocked  and  amazed.  I 
don't  believe  any  of  them  has  ever  made  a  serious  study  of  the  subject. 
I  believe  they  are  innocent  dupes;  that  is  my  impression  of  them,  in- 
nocent dupes. 

I  guarantee  not  one  of  them  could  name  four  men  on  the  Politburo ; 
I  guarantee  not  one  of  them  could  name  a  date  or  an  action  against 
Russia  or  a  violation  of  the  antiaggression  pacts  which  Mr.  Stalin 
violated.  If  these  people  will  only  read  and  read  and  read  and  read, 
they  will  wake  up.  I  have  all  the  sympathy  in  the  world  for  them ;  I 
am  sorry  for  them. 

Mr.  Vail.  I  have  no  more  questions. 

The  Chairmax.  Mr.  Nixon. 

Mr.  Nixox.  Mr.  Menjou,  from  what  you  have  said  to  charge  a 
person  with  being  a  Communist  is  a  very  serious  thing  ? 


104  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE    INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  would  not  want  that  charge  made? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Without  substantiation,  that  is  right.  That  is  play- 
ing right  into  the  Communists'  hands. 

Mr.  NrxoN.  In  answer  to  a  question  by  Mr.  Stripling  you  indicated 
that  although  you  might  not  know  whether  a  certain  person  was  a 
Communist,  I  think  you  said  he  certainly  acted  like  a  Communist. 

Mr.  Menjou.  If  you  belong  to  a  Communist-front  organization  and 
you  take  no  action  against  the  Communists,  you  do  not  resign  from 
the  organization  when  you  still  know  the  organization  is  dominated 
by  Communists,  I  consider  that  a  very,  very  dangerous  thing. 

Mr.  XixoN.  Have  you  any  other  tests  whicli  you  would  apply  which 
Avould  indicate  to  you  that  people  acted  like  Communists? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  think  attending  any  meetings  at  which  Mr. 
Paul  Robeson  appeared  and  applauding  or  listening  to  his  Communist 
songs  in  America,  I  would  be  ashamed  to  be  seen  in  an  audience  doing  a 
thing  of  that  kind. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  indicated  you  thought  a  person  acted  like  a  Com- 
munist when  he  stated,  as  one  person  did  to  you,  that  capitalism 
was  through. 

Mr.  Menjou.  That  is  not  communistic  per  se,  but  it  is  very  danger- 
ous leaning,  it  is  very  close.  I  see  nothing  wrong  with  the  capitalistic 
system,  the  new  dynamic  capitalism  in  America  today.  Mr.  Stalin 
was  very  worried  when  he  talked  to  Mr.  Stassen.  He  asked  him  four 
times  when  the  great  crash  was  coming  in  America.  That  is  what  they 
are  banking  on,  a  great  crash,  and  I  do  not  think  it  is  coming. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  indicated  that  belonging  to  a  Communist-front 
organization,  in  other  words,  an  association  with  Communists,  attend- 
ing these  planned  meetings,  making  statements  in  opposition  to  the 
capitalistic  system  are  three  of  the  tests  you  would  apply. 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Do  you  have  any  other  tests  from  your  experience  you 
would  like  to  give  this  committee? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  don't  know  of  any  better  ones. 

Mr.  NixoN.  Do  you  believe  that  the  motion-picture  industry  at  the 
present  time  is  doing  everything  it  can  to  rid  itself  of  subversive 
un-American  influences  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  I  do.  I  believe  it  has  been  that  way  for  almost 
"a  year,  or  maybe  a  little  more  than  a  year. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  see  no  further  steps  the  industry  can  take  at  this 
time  that  it  has  not  taken  in  the  past? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Except  eternal  vigilance  that  every  American  and 
every  citizen  of  the  United  States  should  exercise  toward  communism. 
1  would  rather  label  it  as  Stalinism;  there  is  no  such  thing  as 
communism. 

^Ir.  Nixon.  Do  you  feel  congressional  action  is  necessary  in  order 
10  assist  the  industry  in  going  aiw  further  with  this  campaign? 

Mr.  Menjou.  This  is  a  secret  organization.  Very  few  people  admit 
to  being  members  of  it,  only  a  few,  and  of  course  their  records  are 
disgraceful.  Mr.  Mate  of  the  French  Communist  Party  was  sentenced 
to  20  years  for  mutiny;  Mr.  Torres  was  sentenced  to  6'  years  for  deser- 
tion. Mr.  Eugene  Dennis,  one  of  the  members  in  New  York,  has  a 
police  record  in  California.  I  think  I  would  keep  away  from  those  kind 
of  people;  at  least  I  have  been  taught  that  way. 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  105 

Mv.  Nixon.  Getting  down  to  specific  cases  as  to  what  the  industry 
should  do 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Nixon.  To  rid  itself  of  un-American  activities  in  Hollywood  if, 
for  example,  a  producer  were  to  be  given  unequivocal  proof  that  one  of 
his  star  actors  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  do  you  believe 
that  that  producer  has  tlie  responsibility  as  an  American  not  to  renew 
that  person's  contract? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Well,  I  would  not  want  to  say  that.  I  was  one  of  the 
persons  most  deeply  shocked  when  Mr.  Cecil  B.  DeMille  was  deprived 
of  his  job  on  the  radio.  I  thought  that  was  perfectly  shocking.  I 
asked  Mr.  Cromwell  about  that  and  he  said,  "He  is  rich."  I  said,  "What 
has  wealth  to  do  with  the  matter  ?"  . 

I  think  Mr.  DeMille  showed  incredible  moral  courage,  more  than  I 
have,  in  giving  his  job  up.  He  cannot  work  any  more  on  the  radio 
because  he  refused  to  put  up  a  dollar  for  political  purposes.  The 
Taft-Hartley  Act  has  negated  all  that.  I  don't  believe  that  an  actor, 
if  he  is  a  member  of  a  Communist  Party  and  is  careful  to  state  that — 
I  think  the  public  will  take  care  of  him. 

Mr.  Nixon.  In  other  words,  you  believe  the  producer  in  that  case 
would  be  justified  in  keeping  him  in  his  employment  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  He  won't  last  long  if  he  is  labeled  as  a  Communist. 

Mr.  Nixon.  What  if  a  producer  is  informed  that  a  writer  he  has  in 
his  employ  is  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  what  should  his 
action  be  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  He  could  be  very  carefully  watched;  this  producer 
could  watch  every  script  and  every  scene  of  every  script.  We  have 
many  Communist  writers  who  are  splendid  writers.  They  do  not  have 
to  write  communistically  at  all,  but  they  have  to  be  watched. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Your  answer  would  be  the  same  in  case  he  learned  that 
ix  director  or  one  of  the  top  employees  in  the  particular  industry  was 
a  member  of  a  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir.  I  am  firmly  convinced  of  the  evils  of  Stalin- 
ism or  Marxism ;  it  is  so  evil  and  it  is  such  a  menace  to  the  American 
people  that  I  think  it  should  be  watched  and  watched  and  watched. 

Mr.  NixoN.  Then  so  far  as  your  program  is  concerned,  what  you 
advocate  is  publicity  of  the  fact  that  certain  people  in  the  industry  are 
Communists? 

Mr.  Menjou.  If  they  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party  they 
should  say  so. 

Mr.  Nixox.  And  once  that  publicity  is  given  by  vigilance  on  the 
j)art  of  the  producers  and  those  responsible  for  the  films  that  go  to  the 
public  they  can  see  that  no  un-American  propaganda  ge|;s  into  those 
films  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Yes,  sir.  I  have  no  objection.  Mr.  Nixon,  to  com- 
munistic picture  propaganda  if  it  is  so  labeled  an  an  honest,  faithful 
picture.  I  would  like  to  see  it.  I  would  like  to  see  pictures  of  the 
])eople  at  the  place  where  Mr.  Wallace  made  his  speech;  I'woidd  like 
the  American  people  to  see  that.  That  would  be  an  honest  picture  of 
what  is  going  on  in  Russia  today. 

Mr.  Nixon.  If  we  refuse  to  allow  a  Communist  picture  to  be  made 
and  advertised  as  such  we  would  probably  be  falling  into  the  same 
error  that  we  criticize  the  Communists  for  in  Russia,  is  that  right? 


106  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  agree. 

Mr.  Nixon.  In  other  words,  they  will  not  allow  a  picture  showing 
the  democratic  way  of  life  in  Russia  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  also  believe  the  Russians  should  be  treated  exactly 
as  they  treat  us.  I  would  treat  them  visa  for  visa.  If  there  are  218 
Americans  in  Moscow  today  there  shouldn't  be  3,046  Russians  in 
America  because  they  are  all  spies,  every  one  of  them.  There  should 
be  218  Russians  in  America.  Treat  them  exactly  as  they  treat  us. 
For  every  American  in  Moscow  we  should  allow  one  here.  I  think  we 
are  2  years  late  in  our  firm  attitude;  we  are  verj'  far  behind. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Thank  you. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Menjou,  why  have  no  anti-Communist  films 
been  made  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Menjou.  There  are  a  great  manv  anti-Nazi  films  made ;  I  do  not 
know.  Some  have  been  announced  as  bein^  in  preparation.  The  title 
"The  Iron  Curtain"  is,  I  think,  copyrighted  by  a  number  of  producers. 
I  hope  to  see  that  made.  I  would  like  to  see  an  honest  anti-Coinmunist 
picture  and  I  would  like  to  see  it  labeled  as  such,  not  as  entertainment. 

The  Chairman.  We  heard  yesterday  from  witnesses  that  at  least 
one,  possibly  two  anti-Communist  films  were  being  planned.  What 
have  you  heard  from  Hollywood  as  to  the  feeling  on  the  part  of  the 
producers  about  producing  anti-Communist  films? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  believe  they  would  be  an  incredible  success.  After 
the  first  picture  was  made  I  think  there  would  be  many  many  more 
made.  I  think  it  would  be  a  very  wonderful  thing  to  see  one  made. 
I  wx)uld  like  to  see  a  picture  of  the  Bulgarian  situation :  I  would  like 
to  see  the  execution  of  Mr.  Patkoff  by  Mr.  Dimitrich  who  was  former 
head  of  the  Commintern.  I  woidd  like  to  see  that  shown  to  the  Ameri- 
can public  so  they  can  see  communism  as  it  actually  is. 

I  would  like  them  to  see  the  brutal  beatings,  the  stabbings,  the 
killings  that  go  on  all  througli  Europe  with  which  the  Communist 
Party  is  facing  the  people. 

We  showed  many  many  anti-Nazi  ])ictures.  I  see  no  reason  why 
we  do  not  show  anti-Communist  pictures. 

The  Chairman.  Why  don't  we  show  them  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  don't  know.     I  hope  they  are  going  to  show  them. 

The  Chairman.  It  has  been  said  in  the  press  by  certain  individuals 
in  the  United  States  that  these  hearings  now  being  held  by  the  Un- 
American  Activities  Committee  are  a  censorship  of  the  screen.  Wliat 
have  you  to  say  about  that  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  think  that  is  juvenile. 

The  Chairman.  So  anybody  that  would  make  such  a  statement 
would  be  considered  as  such  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  It  is  perfectly  infantile  to  say  this  committee  is  trying 
to  control  the  industry.  How  could  they  possibly  control  the  industry  ? 
They  wouldn't  know  anything  about  it.  You  wouldn't  know  how  to 
make  a  picture  or  anything  else.  I  don't  see  how  that  could  be  said 
by  any  man  with  the  intelligence  of  a  louse. 

The  Chairman.  As  a  result  of  testifying  here,  that  is,  when  the 
actors  testify  and  when  the  writers  testify,  when  persons  in  labor 
testify,  will  their  testimony  and  the  fact  that  they  have  testified  before 
his  committee  injure  their  livelihood  in  any  way  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  I  shouldn't  think  it  would  injure  it  seriously.  I  be- 
lieve there  are  many  people  in  the  picture  industry  that  would  not 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  107 

liavo  me  in  a  ])iclui'e  Avilli  them.  1  think  tliis  has  oone  too  far  in 
Hollywood.  The  Jine  of  cleava<>e  is  very  strai<>lit.  It  isn't  like  a 
good  Kepublican  or  a  good  Democrat.  This  is  a  foul  philosophy  and 
it  has  embittered  many  many  people. 

I  think  Mr.  Vishinsky  and  Mr.  Molotov  have  done  a  most  mag- 
nihcent  job  of  awakening  the  American  people.  The  more  informa- 
tion the  American  people  get  the  moi-e  they  will  realize  it  and  the 
more  they  will  turn  against  it.  It  is  completely  against  the  American 
philosophy. 

I  would  move  to  the  State  of  Texas  if  it  ever  came  here  because  I 
think  the  Texans  would  kill  them  on  sight. 

The  Chairman.  Have  you  heard  or  do  you  know  of  any  efforts  made 
on  the  part  of  anyone  to  intimidate  witnesses  that  might  come  before 
this  committee? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Xo;  I  have  not.  When  I  went  out  to  campaign  for 
Ml-.  Dewey  and  Mr.  Bricker  in  1944  I  was  told  by  various  people  it 
w^ould  injure  my  career.  I  don't  think  it  has  and  I  think  I  had  a  right 
to  do  it.  There  is  no  way  of  proving  that.  In  Hollywood  when  your 
name  comes  up  for  a  picture  3'ou  are  one  of  seven  or  eight  actors.  I 
believe  a  person  who  was  friendly  toward  communism,  a  pro-Com- 
munist, and  who  liked  the  Communist  government  better  than  ours,  if 
I  came  up  for  a  job  he  would  choose  another  man  in  preference  to  nie, 
everything  else  being  equal.  I  do  not  consider  that  a  loss  of  a  job, 
because  we  lose  jobs  m  many  other  ways  and  we  get  them  in  many 
other  ways. 

Many  times  we  never  know  when  the  good  part  is  coming  up.  Good 
parts  make  good  actors.    The  better  the  part  the  better  the  actor. 

The  Chairman.  You  believe,  then,  it  is  the  patriotic  duty  of  a  wit- 
ness to  speak  very  frankly  and  freely  and  he  should  be  pleased  to  come 
before  the  committee  and  testify  ? 

Mr.  Menjou.  Definitely.  I  believe  that  any  man  who  is  a  decent 
American,  who  believes  in  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  and 
the  free  enterprise  system  which  has  made  this  country  what  it  is  and 
which  has  given  its  people  the  highest  standard  of  living  of  any  country 
on  the  face  of  the  earth,  I  believe  he  should  be  proud  to  stand  up  for  it 
and  not  be  afraid  to  speak. 

The  Chairman.  Do  any  other  members  of  the  committee  have  any 
questions  ? 

Mr,  McDowell.  I  would  like  to  tell  Mr.  Menjou  something  to  add 
to  his  already  great  knowledge  of  communism.  Recently  I  have  been 
examining  the  borders  of  the  United  States.  I  would  like  to  tell  you. 
Mr.  Menjou,  that  within  weeks,  not  months  but  w^eeks,  bus  loads  of 
Communists  have  crossed  the  American  border. 

Mr.  Menjou.  That  is  right.  We  have  no  air  border  patrol,  not  a 
sufficient  one,  and  we  haven't  enough  guards.  The  frontier  is  very 
long  which  we  are  guarding  and  it  is  very  easy  for  people  to  infiltrate 
from  Mexico  over  the  border. 

There  was  a  great,  profitable  industry  in  smuggling  Chinese  over  the 
border.    One  of  my  good  friends  made  a  great  deal  of  money  doing  it. 

I  believe  America  should  arm  to  tlip  teeth.  I  believe  in  universal 
military  training.  I  attended  Culver  Military  Academy  during  t)ie 
last  war  and  enlisted  as  a  private.  Due  to  my  military  training  I  was 
soon  made  an  officer  and  it  taught  me  a  great  many  things.    I  believe 


108  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

if  I  was  told  to  swim  tlie  Mississippi  River  I  would  learn  how  to  swim. 
Every  yoiin,  194G,  relative  to 
infilrration  of  Communists  in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  Yes.  sir;  I  do. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Would  you  read  that  to  the  connnittee? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  would  like  to  point  out  that  the  Communists  have 
practically  rendered  the  English  language  meaningless  in  that  they 
very  often  use  a  term  to  indicate  its  opposite,  such  as  the  term  "de- 
mocracy" whicli  Mr.  Foster  uses.  So  before  I  read  Mr.  Foster's  state- 
ment I  would  like  to  read  one  by  Joseph  Stalin  which  rather  orients 
wliat  a  Communist  means  by  "democracy."  The  statement  that  I  am 
about  to  read  is  taken  from  The  Foundations  of  Leninism,  a  series  of 
lectures  delievered  in  Moscow  by  Joseph  Stalin. 

In  this  he  says : 

The  dictatorship  of  the  proletariat  is  a  revolutionary  power  based  on  the  use 
of  force  against  the  bourgeois. 

He  goes  on  to  say  : 

Briefly,  the  dictatorship  of  the  proletariat  is  a  rule  unrestricted  by  law  and 
based  on  forces  of  the  proletariat  over  the  bourgeoise,  a  ruling  enjoying  the 
sympathy  and  support  of  the  laboring  and  exploited  masses. 

Then  he  proceeds  to  say : 

My  first  conclusion  is  that  the  dictatorship  of  the  proletariat  cannot  be  com- 
plete democracy,  democracy  for  all,  for  the  rich  as  well  as  the  poor.  The 
dictatorship  of  the  proletariat  must  be  a  state  that  is  democracy  in  a  new  way 
for  the  proletariat  and  propertyless  in  general  and  a  dictatorship  in  a  new  way 
against  the  bourgeois. 

He  goes  on,  on  page  58,  to  say : 

In  other  words,  the  law  of  violent  revolution,  the  law  of  smashing  the  bour- 
geoise machine  as  a  preliminary  condition  for  such  a  revolution,  is  an  inevitable 
law  of  the  revolutionary  movement  in  the  imperialistic  countries  of  the  world. 

With  that  definition  of  democracy  in  mind,  I  will  now  read  what 
Mr,  William  Z.  Foster  had  to  say  in  the  New  Masses  on  April  23, 1946, 
speaking  on  elements  of  the  peoples'  cultural  polic3^    He  says : 

Progressive  artists  should  also  strive  to  make  their  constructive  influences 
felt  within  the  scope  of  the  great  cultural  organizations  of  the  bourgeoise. 
Motion  pictures,  radio,  literature,  theater,  and  so  forth.  Artists  must  eat  like 
other  people.  Many  artists,  tlierefore,  are  necessarily  constrained  to  work  under 
direct  capitalist  controls  on  employers'  pay  rolls  pretty  much  as  workers.  It  is 
also  iK)litically  and  artistically  necessary  to  penetrate  the  commercial  organiza- 
tions as  it  would  be  for  the  worker.  But  this  does  not  mean  that  artists  so 
employed  should  become  servile  tools  or  prostitutes  of  these  exploiters  as,  unfor- 
tunately, many  do.  On  the  contrary,  progressive  artists  have  a  double  responsi- 
bility. Not  only  should  they  actively  cultivate  every  form  of  independent 
artistic  activity,  but  they  should  also  fight  as  workers  do  in  capitalist  industry 
to  make  their  democratic  influences  felt  in  the  commercialized  cultural  organi- 
zations. The  fact  that  capitalists  through  their  commercialized  art  forms  have 
to  appeal  for  profits  to  the  broadest  ranks  of  the  people  makes  these  forms 
especially  vulnerable  to  ideological  and  organizational  pressure  as  much  experi- 
ence demonstrates. 


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Mr.  Foster  says  not  only  that  they  should  infiltrate  their  ideas,  but 
that  they  have  siiccessfnlly  infiltrated  their  ideas. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Moffitt,  based  upon  your  observations  and  in- 
formation, have  the  Communists  infiltrated  into  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Have  they  infiltrated  into  Hollywood^ 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  I  refer  to  Hollywood,  1  am  speaking  of  the 
motion-picture  industry. 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Yes,  sir;  I  should  say  they  have.  I  would  like  to 
bring  to  your  attention  the  fact  that  every  studio  employs  what  are 
known  as  story  analysts.  These  people  read  all  stories  submitted  to 
the  studio,  allfree-lance  writing,  all  such  scripts.  This  work  is  done 
by  what  is  known  as  the  Screen  Analysts  Guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  INIr.  Moffitt,  before  you  do  that,  for  the  benefit  of 
the  committee,  would  you  give,  briefly,  the  mechanics  of  a  story  from 
the  time  it  is  written  until  it  is  produced  as  a  picture? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  There  are  several  routines  that  may  be  followed.  A 
studio  may  ask  a  writer  already  employed  by  them  to  write  an  original 
story  for  a  specific  need — if  a  star  needs  a  vehicle,  for  example. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Take,  for  example,  a  book,  a  best-selling  novel.  We 
will  assume  that  a  studio  has  bought  the  novel  to  make  a  picture.  Will 
you  tell  the  committee  the  various  departments  that  that  book  would 
go  through  before  it  is  produced  as  a  film? 

I\Ir.  Moffitt.  In  a  large  studio  that  literary  property  would  be  as- 
signed to  an  associate  producer.  That  associate  producer  would  call 
upon,  after  reading  it  and  conferring  with  the  head  of  the  studio  as  to 
the  general  approaches  of  the  dramatization,  he  would  then  call  the 
scenario  editor,  the  man  in  charge  of  hiring  writers. 

That  editor  would  submit  to  him  a  list  of  names  of  available  writ- 
ers that  he  thought  suitable  for  this  assignment.  The  list  would  in- 
clude both  writers  under  contract  and  writers  off  contract. 

A  great  discretion  is  in  that  man's  hands.  As  Mr.  Sam  Wood 
pointed  out  yesterday,  it  is  very  easy  for  him  to  load  the  list  with  Com- 
munists, if  he  is  a  Communist.  In  the  case  of  a  man  under  contract 
who  never  gets  on  one  of  those  lists  he  soon  has  been  employed  for  a 
number  of  months,  he  has  received  the  studio's  money,  and  because  of 
the  manipulations  of  a  scenario  editor  in  keeping  his  name  oif  the  lists 
of  available  writers,  he  has  a  record  of  nonemployment.  Then  the 
scenario  editor,  if  so  disposed,  can  go  to  the  head  of  the  studio  and 
say,  "None  of  our  associate  producers  want  to  work  with  this  man; 
therefore  I  think  it  advisable  not  to  renew  his  contract." 

Mr.  Wood,  I  think,  explained  that  yesterday. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes ;  he  brought  that  out. 

Now,  the  next  step. 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Well,  after  the  writer  or  writers  are  assigned,  they 
very  often  write  a  "treatment,"  which  is  an  outline,  a  break-down  of 
the  form  the  dramatization  should  take.  They  bring  that  back  to 
the  associate  producer,  and  if  he  approves  it  he  either  keeps  them  work- 
ing to  develop  a  script  or  he  hires  other  writers  to  develop  a  script. 
There  are  very  often  four  or  five  scripts  on  one  story  as  the  script  is 
refined  and  polished. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  the  next  step  after  the  script?  Then  it  is 
turned  over  to  the  producer  or  to  the  director  ? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  After  the  script  is  written  in  some  studios  it  goes  to  a 
story  board  who  criticizes  it  from  various  angles,  from  its  contents, 


COMMUNISM  IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  H? 

from  the  ability  of  tlie  studio  to  cast  the  script  as  written,  for  the  way 
it  squares  with  public  o})inioii  as  the  studio  iiiteri)rets  it  a  that  time; 
and  the  story  board  can  ask  for  further  revisions  or  can  approve  it,  in 
which  case  a  production  date  is  set  and  it  would  2;o  into  production. 
At  this  stage  of  the  game  a  director  is  usually  assigned  to  it  and  since 
the  director  is  responsible  for  getting  the  values  of  the  story  into  film 
he  is  allowed  considerable  advisory  power.  That  will  fluctuate  with 
the  reputation  and  skill  of  the  director  and  the  importance  of  the  pro- 
ducer. As  a  rule  the  director  is  listened  to.  It  is  profitable  to  listen  to 
the  director  and  to  make  any  reasonable  changes  that  he  desires.  It 
is  best  to  have  him  happy,  in  other  words.  < 

The  CiiAiRMA]s[.  The  Chair  would  like  to  announce  that  this  after- 
noon we  will  have  Mr.  Moffitt  continuing  his  testimony  and  one  or 
two  other  witnesses,  and  that  tomorrow^  we  will  have  the  following 
witnesses,  all  writers :  Mr.  Rupert  Hughes.  Mr.  Morrie  Ryskincl,  Albert 
Carlson,  Howard  Rushmore,  Richard  Macaulay,  Fred  Niblo,  Jr.,  and 
Ayn  Rand. 

We  will  recess  now  until  2  o'clock  this  afternoon. 

(Whereupon,  at  12 :  25  p.  m.,  a  recess  was  taken  until  2  p.  m.  of  the 
same  day.) 

AFTERIsrOON  SESSION 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  wall  come  to  order. 

The  Chair  would  like  to  announce  that  if  transportation  arrange- 
ments can  be  completed  today,  or  have  been  completed  this  morning, 
one  of  the  witnesses  tomorrow  morning  will  be  Mr.  Robert  Taylor, 
the  actor. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Will  you  point  out  that  the  first  witness  will  be 
Mr.  Jim  McGuinness? 

The  Ciiair:man'.  And  the  first  witness  tomorrow  morning  will  be 
Mr.  Jim  McGuinness.  The  second  witness  will  probably  be  Mr.  Robert 
Taylor. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  ask  permission  to  insert  into  the 
record  certain  excerpts  from  the  testimony  of  Adolph  Menjou  which 
was  taken  in  executive  session  in  Hollywood  in  May.  Those  excerpts 
will  only  serve  to  elaborate  on  certain  points  he  made  here  this  morning, 
which  would  clarify  the  record. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

(The  excerpts  referred  to  above  are  included  in  Executive  Hearings 
and  will  not  be  printed  in  this  volume.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Moffitt. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOHN  CHARLES  MOFFITT— Eesumed 

Mr.  Stripling.  Before  we  adjourned  for  the  noon  hour,  you  men- 
tioned Story  Analyst  Guild.  Would  you  tell  the  committee  just  how 
this  Story  Analyst  Guild  functions? 

Mr.  MoFFi'i-i\  Yes,  sir;  I  would  be  delighted  to,  but  before  I  do  that 
I  would  like  to  make  a  correction  on  my  morning's  testimony.  Due  to 
a  too  hasty  glance  at  my  chronology  here,  I  think  I  confused  some 
members  of  the  press  concerning  dates.     The  time  of  my  alleged  col- 


118  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

laboration  with  Mr.  Trimibo  at  Paramount  was  in  the  spring  of  1941, 
prior  to  the  German  invasion  of  Russia,  the  i)eriod  of  the  Berlin- 
Moscow  pact.  I  believe  I  failed  to  make  the  date  clear.  The  time 
of  my  menibershi])  in  the  Anti-Nazi  Leajjue  and  mj?^  conversations  with 
John  Howard  Lawson  is,  to  the  best  of  my  recollection,  in  1937. 

Now,  as  to  the  Story  Analyst  Guild,  that  is  a  union  of  workers  whose 
function  it  is  to  read  all  material  submitted  to  various  motion-picture 
studios  and  to  wa-ite  synopses  of  the  stories  submitted.  These  synopses 
are  placed  on  lile  and  they  are  available  to  producers  and  associate 
producers  in  makino-  decisions  of  what  material  they  wnsh  to  screen. 

As  I  understand  it,  under  the  terms  of  the  contract — in  the  first 
place,  I  understand  that  the  Story  Analyst  Guild  has  been  named  the 
bargaining  agency  for  that  phase  of  the  motion-picture  business.  I 
also  understand  that  under  the  contract  which  has  been  approved  for 
that  guild  and  the  producers,  the  producers  are  not  permitted  to  fire 
on  the  basis  of  political  activity.  It  has  been  the  experience  of  many 
writers  who  are  not  Communists  that  the  members  of  this  guild  pre- 
pare very  bad  synopses  on  all  material  submitted  by  people  who  are 
not  Communists  and  they  damn  thoroughly  in  their  reports  any  stories 
that  are  not  friendly  to  the  Communist  line.  The  president  of  the 
Story  Analyst  Guild  and  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  as  I 
understand  it,  is  Frances  Mellington.  She  is  head  of  the  story  analyst 
or  reading  department  at  Paramount.  She  is  assisted  by  a  woman 
who  has  repeatedly  voiced  very  strong  Communist  sympathy.  Her 
name  is  Simon  Maise — M-a-i-s-e. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  do  you  spell  her  first  name,  Mr.  Moflitt  ? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  The  French  name — S-i-m-o-n. 

Also  in  her  department  is  Bernie  Gordon,  a  man  whose  actions  and 
talk  follows  the  party  line. 

In  one  unit  at  AVarner  Bros,  he  is  Dave  Robison — R-o-b-i-s-o-n.  I 
think  he  is  in  what  is  known  as  the  Spurling  unit  at  Warner  Bros., 
I  believe.  His  wife,  Naomi  Robison,  was  at  one  time,  I  understand, 
Communist  treasurer  for  Hollywood. 

Another  reader  at  Warners,  who  I  understand  is  a  Communist  mem- 
ber, is  Thomas  Chapman — C-h-a-p-m-a-n — but  I  believe  he  has  been 
let  out  since  Mr.  Warner  began  to  rid  his  studio  of  Communists. 

The  story  man  at  Enterprise  Studio  is,  I  believe,  a  Communist,  and 
his  name  is  Michael  Uris — U-r-i-s. 

I  understand  that  among  the  analysts  at  Metrol-Goldwyn-Mayer 
who  are  Communists  and  follow  the  party  line,  are  Jesse  Burns  and 
Lona  Packer — P-a-c-k-e-r.  According  to  my  information.  Miss 
Packer  was  discharged  some  months  ago  and  has  not  returned  to  that 
studio. 

Does  that  answer  your  question? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes, 

Now,  Mr.  Moffitt,  as  a  writer  in  Hollywood  and  as  a  critic,  could 
you  name  for  the  committee  any  writers  that  you  consider  to  be  Com- 
munists who  are  employed  in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Katz.  Mr.  Thomas,  I  represent  a  number  of  persons  who  have 
been  subpenaed 

The  Chairman.  I  am  very  sorry.  You  are  out  of  order.  We  have 
a  witness  on  the  stand,  so  please  go  back  and  sit  down. 

Mr.  Katz.  You  have  said-; 

The  Chairman.  I  said  you  are  out  of  order. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  119 

Mr.  Katz.  You  have  said  you  want  a  fair  hearing.  Cross-examina- 
tion is  necessary. 

The  Chairman.  Will  you  take  this  man  out  of  the  room,  please? 
Put  him  out  of  the  room. 

(to  ahead  with  the  testimony. 

We  nmst  have  order  in  these  chambers,  or  we  will  be  inclined  to  clear 
the  room  of  the  audience. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  MofRtt,  the  question  was :  You  name  the 
writers  in  Holl3'wood  according  to  your  information  who  are  mem- 
bers of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  am  not  a  Government  agency  and  I  do  not  have  the 
investigative  powers  that  one  would  have.  I  have  had  contact  with 
men  who  are  former  members  of  the  FBI  on  the  Hollywood  beat  and 
I  know  what  they  have  told  me.  I  also  have  followed  the  careers  of 
a  great  number  of  these  people  and  I  know^  that  those  that  I  mention 
have  followed  the  party  line.  I  cannot  tell  you  under  oath  that  I 
have  the  party  cards  or  number  of  these  people.  The  men  I  am  about 
to  name  were  asked  by  the  Hollywood  Reporter:  "Are  you  a  Com- 
munist and  is  your  party  number  as  follows?" 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  MofHtt.  Would  you  identify 
the  Hollywood  Reporter? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  The  Hollywood  Reporter  is  a  trade  paper,  a  daily 
published  in  Hollywood.  I  think  it  shares  with  Daily  Variety  the 
distinction  of  being  one  of  the  two  most  important  trade  papers  deal- 
ing with  motion-picture  matters. 

Mr.  Stripling,  (to  right  ahead. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  The  Hollywood  Reporter,  according  to  my  informa- 
tion, asked  Mr.  Albert  Maltz — M-a-1-t-z^ — a  very  able  screen  writer,  if 
be  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  and  if  his  number  was  No. 
48062.  To  the  best  of  my  knowledge  Mr.  Maltz  nevpr  returned  an 
answer.  Mr.  Maltz  is  rather  significant  because  Mr.  Maltz  is  signifi- 
cant of  the  discipline  which  the  Communist  Party  impo:  es  upon  those 
of  its  artists  which  it  infiltrates  into  the  studios. 

Some  months  ago  j\Ir.  Maltz  wrote  an  article  that  attracted  wide 
attention,  which  was  published  in  the  Communist  press.     In  that 

Mr.  Stripling.  Pardon  me.  You  refer  to  the  Communist  press. 
Do  you  mean  (he  New  Masses? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  I  think  this  one  was  published  in  the  Daily  Worker. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Official  organ  of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Stripling.  All  right. 

Mr.  Moffitt.  In  that  article  Mr.  Maltz  made  a  plea  for  a  certain 
degree  of  intellectual  freedom  amon.i  radical  writers.  Mr.  Maltz  said 
that  while  Farrell.  the  author  of  Studs  Lonnigan.  was  not  a  Com- 
munist Party  member  and  liad  resisted  Communist  discipline,  that  at 
the  same  time  he  thought  he  was  a  very  able  writer  and  that  on  the 
whole  he  was  an  able  exponent  of  the  leftist  or  extreme  liberal  or,  as 
I  would  say.  close  to  Communist  thinking. 

He  named,  I  believe,  John  Dos  Pasos — D-o-s  P-a-s-o-s — in  the  same 
article.  He  cited  these  men  as  exam])les  of  what  he  thought  were 
laudable  liberal  writers  who  should  not  be  condemned  through  their 
failure  to  be  members  of  the  Communist  Party. 

After  the  publication  of  that  article  all  hell  broke  loose.  The  Com- 
miunist  papers  were  filled  with  articles  against  Maltz.     He  was  de- 


120  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

iiounced  as  a  cleviator  from  tlie  party  line.  He  was  called  a  corrupter 
of  party  discipline.  The  best  writers,  the  best  literary  hatchetmen  in 
the  party,  were  called  upon  to  work  him  over.  They  worked  him  over 
so  thoroughly  that  he  wrote  an  article,  subsequently  wrote  an  article, 
for  the  Daily  Worker,  in  w^hich  he  completely  denied.  He  beat  his 
breast.  He  said  he  was  wrong  to  have  voiced  the  idea  that  an  artist 
should  have  any  independence  of  thought.     He  begged 

Mr.  Stripmxo.  Pardon  me.  AVould  you  say  that  Avould  be  a  classic 
example  of  the  discipline  which  the  party  exacts  from  its  members? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  most  certainly  would.  It  is  the  type  of  discipline 
that  we  are  all  too  familiar  with  in  Russia.  But  here  it  occurred 
on  American  soil,  to  a  man,  a  very  sensitive  man,  and  a  very  able 
writer  and  one  who,  as  far  as  I  know,  follows  the  party  line  as  closely 
as  he  can.  But  he  did  have  a  liberal  deviation  in  his  thinking.  He 
was  condemned  for  it.  When  he  published  his  retraction,  he  not  only 
retracted  his  former  principles,  but  he  attacked  those  who  had  lauded 
him  for  his  stand.  That  is  a  classic  example  to  my  mind  of  the  dis- 
cipline that  the  Communist  Party  applies  to  its  artists. 

The  next  name  that  has  been  brought  up  is  that  of  Robert  Rossen — 
R-o-s-s-e-n.    I  am  not  sure  that  a  number  was  asked  on  him. 

The  next  was  Dalton  Trumbo,  to  whom  I  referred  this  morning. 
He  was  asked  if  he  w'as  a  Communist  and  if  his  party  number  was 
No,  36805.    As  far  as  I  know,  he  made  no  reply. 

The  next  name  was  that  of  Gordon  Kahn — K-a-h-n.  He  was  asked 
if  he  was  a  party  member  and  if  his  number  was  No.  48294.  So  far 
as  I  know,  in  spite  of  the  fact  that  many  months  have  elapsed,  he 
has  never  made  a  reply  to  that  inquiry. 

The  next  name  is  that  of  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.  He  was  asked  if  he 
was  a  Communist  and  if  his  party  number  was  No.  25109,  The  same 
was  true  in  his  case. 

The  next  vras  Richard  J.  Collins — C-o-l-l-i-n-s.  He  was  asked  if 
he  was  a  Communist  and  if  his  number  was  No,  11148,  with  the  same 
results. 

The  next  was  Harold  Buchman — B-u-c-h-m-a-n.  He  was  asked 
if  he  was  a  Communist  and  if  his  number  was  No.  46802,  As  far  as 
I  know,  he  never  denied  it. 

The  next  was  Lester  Cole — C-o-l-e,  He  was  asked  if  he  was  a  Com- 
munist and  if  his  number  was  No.  46805.  So  far  as  I  know,  he  never 
denied  that. 

The  next  was  Henry  Meyers,  He  was  aked  if  he  was  a  Communist 
and  if  his  number  was  No.  25065.  As  far  as  I  know,  he  never  denied 
that. 

The  next  was  William  Pomerance,  I  don't  believe  a  number  was 
asked  of  him. 

The  next  was  Morris  Harry  Rapf — R-a-p-f.  I  believe  that  should 
be  "Junior."  He  was  asked  if  he  was  a  Communist  and  if  his  number 
was  No.  25113.    As  far  as  I  know,  he  never  denied  that. 

The  next  was  Harold  J.  Salemson — S-a-1-e-m-s-o-n.  No  number 
was  asked  of  him. 

Nor  was  ft  of  John  Wexley — ^W-e-x-1-e-y, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Moffitt,  are  all  of  these  writers  whom  you  have 
named  rather  prominent  writers?  ^ 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  think  so,  with  the  exception  of  Salemson.  I  think 
Salemson  was  more  in  the  position  of  an  organizer,  and  he  held  a 


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salaried  position  with  the  Screen  Writers  Guild.  He  also  had  been 
editor  of  an  Army  newspaper,  at  one  of  the  cantonments  during  the 
war. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  writers  that  are  in  the  category  of  these  men, 
api)roximatelv  what  would  their  salaries  be?  AVonld  it  be  in  excess 
of  $500  a  week? 

Ml'.  MoFFiTT.  I  would  think  so,  in  each  case,  though  I  have  no  knowl- 
edge of  their  salary.  I  think  the  Treasury  Department  should  supply 
that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Moffitt,  would  you  give  the  committee  the  vari- 
ous techniques  which  writers  employ  to  inject  Communist  scenes  or 
lines  into  motion  pictures? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  Well,  the  technique  usually  followed  is  that  laid  down 
by  Mr.  Lawson.  It  is  the  "drop  of  water"  technique  the  5  minutes  of 
party-line  technique,  the  gradual  conditioning  of  iVmerican  thought 
along  the  leftist  line.  During  the  war  the  party  line  was  to  identify 
the  class  war  with  the  war  against  Nazi  Germany.  The  technique  in 
that  case  was  to  show  every  quisling  to-  be  a  man  with  property  or  a 
man  of  the  managerial  class.  There  were  a  number  of  instances  in 
Avhich  that  was  done. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  give  the  committee  those  instances? 

Mr.  Morrri'T.  Yes,  sir,  I  could,  but  I  beg  you  not  to  ask  me  to.  I 
think  that  the  most  infamous  aspect  of  Lawson's  technique  is  that  of 
involving  innocent  people.  I  think  that  many  a  time  an  actor  plays 
that  5  minutes  without  knowing  the  significance  of  what  he  is  doing. 
I  think  on  many  occasions — I  think  on  practically  every  occasion  that 
I  know  of  the  producer,  both  the  associate  producer  and  the  studio 
heads,  was  in  complete  ignorance  of  what  was  done.  I  think  very 
often  the  director  may  not  know. 

Now,  this  is  done  occasionally  in  pictures  involving  budgets  of  one 
and  a  half  or  two  million  dollars.  That  gets  into  the  picture,  and  if 
1  name  that  picture  I  will  be  working  a  hardship  on  innocent  people. 
I  would  very  much  prefer,  with  your  permission,  to  name  those  pictures 
in  executive  session. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have,  however,  as  a  critic  for  Esquire  magazine, 
reviewed  pictures  in  which  you  pointed  out  various  scenes  and  lines 
which  to  your  mind  were  a  reflection  of  the  party  line  ? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  No,  sir ;  I  have  not  done  that  in  Esquire  magazine.  I 
have  named  some  pictures  which  I  thought  contained  material  that 
was  derogatory  to  the  ministry,  to  the  prieshood,  giving  an  unfair 
picture  of  American  business  and  of  the  free-enterprise  system,  but 
I  have  not  specifically  named  them  in  Esquire  as  Communist. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  it  would  be  possible  to  pin  the  direct 
responsibility  for  these  techniques  down  to  certain  individuals,  by 
t  liorough  investigation  ? 

Mr.  AIoFFiTT.  By  thorough  investigation  by  you  or  by  the  FBI,  I 
believe  it  could  be  done,  but  as  an  individual,  acting  with  a  reporter's 
experience. and  knowing  the  numeious  people  that  are  involved  in  the 
making  of  a  picture,  I  do  not  feel  free  to  assume  the  responsibility  of 
pointing  the  finger  at  these  various  pictures  and  saying  who  was 
responsible  for  a  given  5  minutes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  But  is  there  any  question  in  your  mind,  as  a  critic 
and  reviewer,  that  the  5  minutes  was  in  the  picture? 


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Mr.  MoFFiTT.  The  5  minutes  has  been  in  a  number  of  pictures.  As 
I  told  you  this  morning,  I  think  that  tlie  motion-picture  industry  has 
done  a  remarkably  fine  job  on  keepinjj  it  out.  I  think  that  their  record 
is  mucli  better  than  that  of  the  publishing  houses  or  that  of  Broadway. 
I  don't  agree  with  Mr.  Mayer  that  it  has  been  100-percent  successful^ 
but  I  think  it  lias  been  in  the  neighborhood  of  98-percent  successful. 
I  think  that,  if  I  name  these  pictures  hei-e,  it  will  smear  them  to  the 
public  and  it  will  work  a  hardship  on  many,  many  people  of  sound 
American  principles.  I  am  very  willing  to  name  them  in  executive 
session. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  perfectly  agreeable.  I  think  you  are 
absolutely  correct. 

Mr.  STRirmNG.  Mr.  Moffitt.  tlien,  without  naming  any  specific  pic- 
ture, could  you  give  us  some  example  of  the  techniques  that  have  been 
employed  ? 

Mr,  MoFFrrT.  Well,  I  gave  you  one,  of  the  confusion  of  the  class 
war  w^ith  the  war  against  Xazi  Germany.  There  is  also  the  campaigii 
against  religion,  w^here  the  minister  will  be  shown  as  the  tool  of  his 
richest  parishioner,  where  it  will  be  inferred  that  the  policies  of  an 
entire  diocese,  let  us  say,  of  the  Episcopal  Church,  are  dictated  by  a 
rich,  reactionary  woman,  where  it  will  be  inferred  that  an  honest 
clergyman  is  interfered  wdth  in  his  duties  to  the  poorer  members  of 
his  diocese  by  rich  and  reactionary  women. 

Tliere  has  also  been  the  party  line  of  making  the  returned  soldier 
fear  that  the  world  is  against  liim,  that  the  American  principle  is 
against  him,  that  business  is  against  him,  that  the  free-enterprise 
system  is  against  him.  You  will  see  picture  after  picture  in  which 
the  banker  is  presented  as  an  unsympathetic  man.  who  hates  to  give 
a  GI  a  loan.  In  connection  with  that  I  haA'e  a  note  here,  based  on 
my  own  inquiry,  that  I  would  like  to  read. 

A  number  of  pictures  have  slioAvn  the  banker  as  the  villain,  pictures 
dealing  with  returned  veterans.  I  saw  this  on  the  screen  so  frequently 
that  I  decided  that,  if  I  was  to  act  in  any  sense  as  a  conscientious 
reviewer,  I  should  make  some  inquiries  about  the  true  conditions.  1 
contacted  the  Bank  of  America  in  Los  Angeles  and  also  contacted  the 
editors  of  Veterans  magazine.  I  made  this  inquiry  last  May.  At  the 
time  of  my  investigation  I  found  that  the  Bank  of  America  in  Cali- 
fornia aloiie  has  made  36,000  real-estate  loans  to  veterans,  for  a  total 
amount  of  $280,000,000.  These  figures  do  not  include  business  loans. 
Of  those  loans,  according  to  the  Bank  of  America,  there  were  only  two 
at  that  time  threatened  with  foreclosure.  At  tliat  time  veterans'  loans 
were  being  processed  at  the  rate  of  80  to  DO  a  day  by  this  one  bank. 
I  think  that  is  an  aspect  of  the  banking  incUistry"s  attitude  toward 
returning  veterans  that  refutes  a  great  deal  that  has  been  infiltrated 
into  scripts  about  their  hard-hearted  attitude  toward  veterans. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  term  "heavy"  has  been  used  here  as  a  designation 
of  the  part  in  which  the  person  is  a  villain.  Would  you  say  that  the 
banker  has  been  often  cast  as  a  heavy,  or  consistently  cast  as  a  heavy, 
in  pictures  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Yes,  sir.  I  think  that  due  to  Communist  pressure  he 
is  overfrequently  cast  as  a  heavy.  By  that  I  do  not  mean  that  I  think 
no  picture  should  ever  show  a  villainous  banker.  In  fact,  I  would 
right  now  like  to  defend  one  picture  that  I  think  has  been  unjustly 
accused  of  communism.     That  picture  is  Frank  Capra's  It's  a  AVonder- 


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fill  Life.  The  banker  in  that  picture,  played  by  Lionel  Barry  more, 
Avas  most  certainly  what  we  call  a  "clog  heavy"  in  the  business.  He 
was  a  snarling,  unsympathetic  character.  But  the  hero  and  his  father, 
played  by  James  Stewart  and  Samuel  S.  Hines,  were  businessmen,  in 
the  building  and  loan  business,  and  they  were  shown  as  using  money 
as  a  benevolent  influence. 

The  Chairman,  I  must  insist  that  we  have  order.  People  in  the 
audience  are  the  guests  of  this  committee.  Those  people  include  the 
witnesses  who  are  going  to  be  called  before  the  committee.  We  just 
must  have  order  all  the  time.     Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Crumm.  All  we  ask,  Mr.  Chairman 

The  Chairman.  I  said  we  want  order. 

]Mr.  Crumm.  All  we  ask  is  the  same  right  accorded  to  Howard 
Hughes, 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  Come  away.  Everybody  sit  down. 
Will  all  you  people  who  are  standing  up  please  sit  down?  And  the 
photographers. 

]\Ir.  MuFFiTT.  All  right. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  Well,  to  summarize,  I  think  that  Mr.  Capra's  picture, 
though  it  had  a  banker  as  villain,  could  not  be  properly  called  a  Com- 
munist picture.  It  showed  that  the  power  of  money  can  be  used 
oppressively  and  it  can  be  used  benevolently.  I  think  that  picture  was 
unjustly  accused  of  communism. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  there  also  beeii  cases  in  which  the  legislative 
branch  of  our  Government  has  been  put  up  for  ridicule  or  for  scorn 
through  certain  scenes  or  themes  in  pictures? 

]Mr.  MoFFiTT.  Yes,  sir ;  there  have.  There  has  been  more  of  that  on 
Broadway,  but  there  has  been  some  of  it  in  Hollywood. 

I  would  like  to  repeat  the  opinion  of  previous  witnesses  that  I  think 
the  studios  are  showing  much  more  vigilance  in  suppressing  these  party 
lines  and  that  in  recent  months  there  has  been  very,  very  little  of  that, 

^Ir.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  of  any  particular  story  or  picture  which 
is  in  production  which  has  as  its  theme  the  belittling  of  the  Congress 
of  the  United  States? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  know  of  some  in  production  where  that  could  be 
possible,  but  since  I  have  not  read  the  scripts — their  adaptations  of 
Inlays — I  would  not  like  to  speak  on  that  because 

Mr.  Stripling.  There  has  been  some  mention  of  a  play  by  Emmett 
Lavery. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  Yes,  sir.  Emmett  Lavery  is  the  president  of  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild.  His  opinions  upon  the  Congress  I  think  are 
set  forth  in  a  play  which  is  now  the  subject  of  a  $:2,000,000  libel  suit. 
The  play  is  called  The  Gentleman  From  Athens,  In  the  character 
of  Cousin  Vincent,  the  banker,  Mr.  Lavery  follows  the  line  of  making 
him  a  very  unsympathetic  character,  just  because  he  is  a  banker.  We 
are  never  told  that  he  has  done  any  specific  thing  that  is  villainous, 
but  in  relation  to  him  there  are  such  lines  as,  "You  have  to  know  him 
before  you  begin  to  despise  him.''  The  mere  sight  of  him  scares  the 
heroine  into  the  jitters.  That  attitude  toward  him  is  maintained 
throughout  the  play,  though  no  specific  act  is  charged  against  him. 

Mr.  Lavery  follows  the  Communist  tactic  of  scaring  Americans  to 
death  with  their  own  atom  bomb.     Ever  since  the  armistice  it  seems 


124  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

to  me  that  the  people  of  the  United  States  have  been  engaged  in  one 
of  the  great  moral  ex]5eriments  in  the  history  of  mankind.  For  the 
first  time,  a  peoi)le  have  had  in  their  hands  an  invincible  weapon  and 
their  sole  concern  has  been  how  not  to  use  it.  In  exchange  for  that, 
the  leftists  have  called  us  warmongers.  They  have  insisted  that  we 
are  imperialists,  though  we  have  taken  no  territory  and  the  Russians 
have.  And  they  have  persistently  insisted  that  if  we  didn't  behave 
ourselves,  if  we  didn't  cease  to  be  warmongers,  if  we  didn't  cease  to  be 
imperialists  who  get  nothing,  that  we  would  be  blown  to  death  by  our 
own  atom  bomb. 

Now,  Mr.  La  very  promotes  that  same  idea  in  this  play.  One  line 
says : 

I  met  a  Russian  tlie  other  day.  He  wanted  to  bet  me  the  Russians  could 
smash  just  as  many  atoms  as  we  could.     But  I  was  smart.     I  wouldn't  bet  him. 

There  is  another  line.  The  heroine's  brother  remonstrating  with 
her  for  having  spent  her  last  thousand  dollars  to  go  to  Europe  to 
escape  from  the  air  of  Washington,  which  she  found  very  oppressive, 
says: 

Sure,  but  I'm  a  pretty  smart  fellow,  getting  smarter  all  the  time.  I  didn't 
have  to  take  my  last  thousand  dollars  and  throw  it  away  on  one  last  look  at  the 
vanishing  continent  of  Eui'ope.  No,  sir.  I  save  my  money.  I  got  all  the  dis- 
illusionment I  wanted  riglit  here  at  home.  I  just  stood  up  night  after  night  in 
the  best  Washington  bars  with  the  best  Senators  and  the  best  Congressmen  and 
the  best  everybody,  and  you  know  wliat,  I  feel  just  as  awful  as  you  do  and  I 
never  left  home  at  all. 

A  character  is  introduced  by  the  name  of  Big  Ed,  who  is  presented 
as  having  great  influence  as  a  fixer  with  Congress.     He  says  this : 

Every  time  there  is  trouble,  there  is  someone  who  survives.  The  only  trick  is 
to  make  sure  you're  among  the  survivors. 

The  central  character 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Pardon  me.  Was  Mr.  Lavery  an  unsuccessful  can- 
didate for  the  House  of  Representatives  in  the  last  election? 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  I  think  he  was. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  The  hero  of  this  play  is  a  racketeer  and  a  crook  who 
files  on  both  tickets  in  California  to  become  a  Member  of  the  House 
of  Representatives,  buys  votes,  and  wins  in  both  primaries.  Of  him 
it  is  said : 

He  is  no  worse  than  half  tlie  Congressmen  you  meet  and  a  lot  better  than  most. 
He  is  just  a  bit  more  open  about  things. 

In  the  second  scene,  he  is  presented  as  a  hero  because  he  socked  a 
member  of  the  House  Un-American  Activities  Committee  for  calling 
him  a  Communist,  though  no  evidence  is  offered  to  show  that  he  wasn't 
a  Communist.     He  says,  in  the  course  of  this  scene : 

Democrats  or  Republicans,  what's  the  difference.  Sure,  a  few  guys  on  each 
side  of  the  aisle  may  be  <^>n  the  up  and  up,  but  a  few  aren't  enough.  The  people 
who  built  this  country  had  a  wonderful  idea,  but  some  t)f  these  buzzards  in  the 
House,  they  don't  take  it  serious.  Hell,  they  run  it  like  it  was  some  kind  of  game. 
Yes;  and  not  a  very  straight  one,  either.  Hell,  if  I  wanted  to  play  that  kind 
of  play,  I  could  have  stayed  home  and  gone  down  to  Tia  .Tuana  or  Agua  Calieute. 
I  don't  have  to  come  to  Washington.  Oli,  wliat  the  hell.  Maybe  democracy 
isn't  such  a  hot  idea  after  all. 

That  is  one  of  his  speeches. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Moffitt,  INIr.  La  very  is  the  president  of 
the  Screen  Writers  Gnild? 

Mr.  MoFrrrr.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Sthh'lin(;.  There  has  been  considerable  testimony  taken  here 
regarding  the  Connmniist  domination  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 
Do  yon  share  the  opinion  given  by  other  witnesses  that  it  is  under 
the  control  of  the  Connnunist  Party? 

Mr.  MoFi-TTT.  Yes,  sir;  I  do.  It  was  founded  by  John  Howard  Law- 
son.  It  has  an  electoral  system  that  I  think  makes  for  an  organiza- 
tional dictatorshij).  Nominations  are  not  made  from  the  floor.  There 
is  a  nominating  conunittee  api)ointed  by  the  officers — a  good  piece  of 
machinei-y  to  keep  themselves  in  power  for  as  long  as  they  please. 

I  think  the  record  of  the  Screen  Writers,  their  official  ]niblication, 
is  one  of  being  filled  with  leftist  propaganda  and  no  other  propaganda. 
No  one  dares  raise  his  voice.  The  meetings  that  I  have  attended  have 
been  c(mducted  so  that  the  Connnunists  howl  down  anyone  who 
attempts  to  raise  a  non-Connnunist  voice  and 

Mr.  Stkh'lino.  Pardon  me.  Do  all  writers  employed  in  the  motion- 
picture  industry  have  to  belong  to  the  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

.Mr.  JNIoFFrrr.  Eighty  i)ercent  of  them  have  to  because  of  a  ruling 
by  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  recognizing  them  as  the  bar- 
gaining agent.  Very  few  writers  are  permitted  to  remain  in  that 
outside  20  percent.  The  studios  like  to  have  that  20  percent  always 
open  in  case  some  very  eminent  novelist  or  playwright  from  abroad 
is  brought  over  here.  They  don't  wish  to  make  him  go  through  that 
red  tape.  So  the  tendency  is  to  ask  all  writers  under  contract  and  prac- 
ticing and  living  in  Plollywood  to  belong  to  the  guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words,  if  you  are  employed  in  the  motion- 
picture  industry  as  a  writer,  it  is  necessary  almost  to  join  an  organi- 
zation which  is  under  the  domination  of  the  Communist  clique  within 
it;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  I  believe  it  is.  I  think  on  two  occasions  it  was  at- 
tempted to  run  a  ticket  of  candidates  for  officers  in  the  guild  on  the 
very  platfoi'in  that  they  were  opposed  to,  both  fascism  and  communism, 
but  that  never  came  off. 

Mr.  STRiPLiN(i.  Do  you  know  who  is  the  editor  of  the  Screen  Writ- 
ers magazine  ? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Gordon  Kahn  at  the  moment,  I  believe. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  Dalton  Trumbo  at  one  time  the  editor — in  1946, 
in  fact,  was  he  the  editor? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  I  think  Dalton  Trumbo  served  two  terms  as  editor. 
I  think  he  was  the  editor  when  the  magazine  was  first  incepted. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Does  the  magazine  reflect  the  party  line  in  its  edi- 
torial policy? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  It  reflects  an  extremely  leftist  line.  I  believe  that 
there  is  to  be  another  witness  who  is  better  qualified  to  go  into  that.  I 
have  not  made  a  ])ainst-aking  survey  of  it. 

I  might  also  add  that  Mr.  Lavery — I  don't  want  to  bore  you  with 
these  lengthy  quotations,  unless  you  wish  to  hear  them,  but  he  also 
strongly  advocates  that  the  United  States  abandon  its  sovereignty  to 
become  part  of  a  world  state.  In  the  course  of  the  play  he  admits  that 
the  Russians  don't  want  to  do  that,  either,  but  his  excuse  is  that  the 

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Russians  have  had  their  sovereignty  just  a  little  while  and  we  shouldn't 
be  impatient  if  they  wish  to  enjoy  it  for  some  time — but  that  we  have 
had  it  long  enough  that  we  should  be  willing  to  give  it  up. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Moffitt,  do  you  have  any  evidence  to  the  effect 
that  the  Communist  members  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  actively 
participate  in  Communist  Party  activities  in  Los  Angeles,  or  whether 
they  have  engaged  in  any  espionage  work  for  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  MorriTT.  Of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  MoFFiTT.  No,  sir;  I  don't  have  any  evidence — well,  that  is  a 
double  question.  There  has  been  ample  evidence  in  the  press,  in  the 
Hollywood  Citizen-News,  that  numbers  of  them  have  been  engaged 
in  Communist  activities.  I  don't  have  those  records  with  me.  I  can 
get  them  from  Los  Angeles. 

The  second  part  of  your  question  was :  Have  they  engaged  in  espio- 
nage ?  I  know  of  no  members  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  who  have 
engaged  in  espionage. 

Mr.  Stripling,  'i'he  reference  was  made  here  yesterday  by  Mr. 
Wood  to  the  effect  that  he  considered  these  people  to  be  the  agents  of 
a  foreign  government.  I  wondered  if  you  are  familiar  with  any 
activities  on  the  jxirt  of  anyone  in  Hollywood  who  is  a  Communist 
that  you  consider  to  be  engaged  in  activity  which  would  me  detri- 
mental to  the  best  interests  of  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Yes,  sir;  I  know  of  the  nctivity  of  Mr.  John  Weber, 
who  is  head  of  the  literary  department  of  the  William  Morris  Agency. 
Mr.  Weber 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  explain  what  the  William  Morris  Agency 
is,  please? 

Mr.  Moffitt.  The  William  Morris  Agency  is  one  of  the  many  talent 
agencies  that  are  in  the  business  of  selling  literary  material,  writers  or 
actors — any  artists  useful  to  the  screen — and  of  obtaining  contracts 
for  them.  For  that  service,  as  is  legal,  they  get  10  percent  of  that 
artist's  income.  Agencies  operate  under  a  State  law  which  fixes  their 
legal  commission  at  10  percent. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  were  speaking  of  Mr.  Weber. 

Mr.  Moffitt.  Yes.  Mr.  Weber  is  head  of  the  literary  department 
of  the  William  Morris  Agency.  He  is  assisted  by  Mr.  Dave  Ware — 
W-a-r-e. 

You  may  remember  that  early  this  year  Life  magazine  and  other 
publications  ran  the  picture  of  a  young  Army  test  pilot  by  the  name 
of  Slick  Goodlin — G-o-o-d-l-i-n.  Goodlin  was  assigned  to  test  the 
supersonic  plane  which  this  Government  had  invested  a  number  of 
millions  of  dollars  in.  Early  in  the  spring  Goodlin  came  to  Hollywood 
on  a  visit.  Mr,  Weber  and  a  number  of  people  of  strong  left-wing 
tendencies  got  to  the  boy.  They  told  him  that  one  engaged  in  his 
activity  should  most  certainly  have  a  wonderful  story  to  sell  to  the 
magazines.  I  understood  that  he  replied  that  anything  he  wrote 
would  have  to  be  passed  through  military  intelligence.  The  reply  was, 
"Oh,  of  course,  that  will  be  done,  but  let  us  see  a  sample  of  what  you  can 
write,  and  we  will  see  whether  it  is  admissible,"  whether  it  is  practical 
to  be  prepared  for  magazine  publication. 

The  boy  was  foolish  enough  to  do  this  and  his  story,  his  draft  of  a 
magazine  article  containing,  as  I  understand  it,  much  confidential  in- 
formation on  the  supersonic  plane  came  into  the  hands  of  Mr.  Weber, 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  127 

the  literary  agent  who  was  sent  to  Hollywood  by  Communist  head- 
quarters in  New  York.     I  understand  that  that  has  been  taken  up 
by  the  FBI. 
■  At  any  rate,  Goodlin  was  assigned  to  the  supersonic  plane. 
Weber  was  also  present  at  a  meeting  in  Hollywood  reported  by  the 
Hollywood  Citizen-News  as  follows: 

"Contemporary  Writers"  described  by  an  advertisement  in  the  Communist 
newspaper  Peoples  Daily  Woi-Id,  has  "a  counti-ywide  organization  of  Marxist  and 
anti-Fascist  writers,"  proceeded  witli  the  development  of  a  Hollywood  chapter. 

In  response  to  the  notice  in  the  Communist  newspaper,  about  80  Hollywood 
writers  met  over  the  Greyhound  bus  depot  on  Chuenga  Boulevard  last  night  to 
launch  the  program. 

They  heard  Charles  Glenn,  acting  chairman  of  the  chapter,  explain  that  it  is 
now  possible  to  get  anti-Fascist  views  published  in  popular  magazines  if  writers 
and  agents  go  about  it  in  the  right  way. 

Glenn  indicated  that  Contemporary  Writers  is  not  satisfied  with  getting  ma- 
terial published  in  magazines  like  the  New  Republic,  the  New  Masses,  and 
Main  Stream.  It  proposes  to  get  its  anti-Fascist  material  into  magazines  like 
Collier's. 

This,  he  promised,  is  not  as  difficult  as  the  writers  might  suppose.  '  Within 
the  past  few  months,  he  said.  Collier's  has  published  six  stories  which  conform 
to  the  views  of  the  new  organization. 

The  writers  were  cautioned  later  by  John  Weber,  a  writers'  agent  with  the 
William  Morris  Agency,  not  to  draw  unwarranted  conclusions  from  the  accept- 
ance of  these  stories  by  Collier's. 

"Publishers,"  he  said,  "will  take  anything  which  they  believe  will  be  profitable 
to  them." 

The  same,  he  said,  is  true  of  the  motion-picture  industry.  As  an  example 
of  the  inclinations  of  publishers  and  producers,  Weber  said  that  Daryl  Zanuck 
who  produced  the  Grapes  of  Wrath  was  now  fiddling  with  a  thing  called 
The  Iron  Curtain. 

The  principal  talk  was  given  by  Alvah  Bessie,  veteran  screen  writer  who 
was  introduced  as  a  hero  of  the  Spanish  Civil  War  in  which  he  served  with 
the  International  Brigade. 

Bessie  assured  the  writers  that  "There  are  never  two  sides  to  any  question." 

Is  there  anything  further^ 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Not  on  that  point.^^ 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  some  other  matters  which  I  would  like  to 
question  Mr.  MofRtt  about  but  which  I  desire  to  dispose  of  in  executive 
session.     Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have  at  this  time. 

The  CHAnaiAN.  With  regard  to  that  we  would  like  to  take  up  some 
of  those  pictures  that  you  mentioned  before  and  I  suggest  we  take 
those  up  in  executive  session.  Without  objection  we  will  take  those 
matters  up  in  executive  session. 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  you  are  going  to  have  an  executive  session  I  have 
no  further  questions  at  this  time.     I  would  like  Mr.  MofRtt  to  stand  by. 

The  Chairman.  Any  questions,  Mr.  Wood? 

Mr.  Wood.  I  have  no  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDow^ell? 

Mr.  McDowell.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Then  will  you  stand  by  and  we  will  get  in- touch 
with  you  just  as  soon  as  we  recess  toda3^ 

Call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  Mr.  Ruppert 
Hughes. 


"  See  appendix,  pp.  526-528,  for  e.xhibits  30-32. 


128  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Hughes. 

Mr.  Hughes,  do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to 
give  will  be  the  truth,  the  w^iole  truth,  and  nothing  lout  the  truth,  so 
help  me  God? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  RUPPERT  HUGHES 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Hughes,  will  you  i)lease  state  your  fidl  name? 

j\Ir.  Hughes,  liuppert  Hughes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  AVhat  is  your  present  address? 

Mr.  Hughes,  4751  Los  Feliz  Boulevard,  Los  Angeles. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Wlien  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Hughes? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Lancaster,  Mo. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  what  year? 

Mr.  Hughes.  1872. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Hughes.  A  writer. 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  been  a  writer  in  the  motion-picture 
industry  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Yes;  in  many  w^ays. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  are  here  inVesponse  to  a  subpena  served  on  you 
September  29  ?  -^ 

Mr.  Hughes.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  briefly  outline  to  the  committee  the  var- 
ious positions  you  have  held  as  a  writer  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Would  you  repeat  that,  please  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes,  sir.  Would  you  outline  for  the  committee  some 
of  the  various  writing  positions  you  have  held  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Well,  a  great  many  of  my  stories  were  put  in  films.  I 
was  made,  by  Samuel  (loldwyn,  one  of  the  so-called  eminent  authors; 
was  taken  to  Hollywood ;  became  a  scenario  writer,  and  was  there  for 
some  years  as  a  director. 

After  that  I  wrote  treatments  for  pictures.  I  was  with  the  Goldwyn 
studios  and  the  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  studios  for  many  years  until 
I  resigned.  After  that,  as  I  say,  I  wrote  a  few  treatments  for  pictures 
but  never  had  an  association  with  the  studios. 

I  believe  I  was  one  of  the  four  founders  of  the  Authors'  League  and 
one  of  the  few  founders  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

That  went  along  very  well  for  a  few  years  until  John  Howard  Law- 
son  and  some  of  his  people  revived  it  in  order  to  make  it  an  instrument 
of  Comnmnist  power.  About  100  of  us  got  tired  of  this,  the  way  they 
were  going  at  things  and  blocking  everything  off  so  we  founded  the 
Screen  Playwrights. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  tell  us  in  what  year  that  was,  ^Ir.  Hughes? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  should  think  that  Avould  be  around  1925  or  1926.  I 
am  very  vague  as  to  the  dates. 

We  were  so  violently  attacked  by  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  people 
as  Fascists  and  enemies  of  freedom  that  they  were  finally  forced  to 
disband.  We  were  called  a  company  union,  of  course.  It  was  my 
theory  if  I  worked  for  a  man  I  owed  him  a  certain  loyalty;  if  I  didn't 
like  him  T  could  resign,  and  I  did  just  that. 


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=■■'  See  appendix,  p.  529,  for  exhibit  33. 


COMMUNISM  IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  129 

I  stayed  with  the  Screen  Phiywrights  and  the  Authors'  League, 
which  had  also  turned  to  be  Communist — it  is  recovering  now — de- 
manded that  I  resign  either  from  the  Authors'  League  or  the  Screen 
Playwrights.     I  refused  to  do  either. 

Then  Dudley  Nichols,  a  writer — I  don't  know  if  he  is  a  Communist 
hut  he  is  certainly  very  leftist — went  to  New  York  and  demanded  that 
the  xVuthors'  League  expel  me. 

Mr.  Stripling.  On  what  grounds,  Mr.  Hughes? 

Mr.  Hughes.  That  was  around  1932  or  1933. 

Air.  Stripling.  On  what  grounds  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  On  the  ground  that  I  disobeyed  the  orders  of  the 
council ;  my  conduct  was  unbecoming  a  member  of  the  Authors'  League. 

Connnunists  are  notable  for  two  things,  one  is  slavish  obedience  to 
their  orders  and  demands  of  slavish  obedience  from  others. 

The  American  Autliors'  Authority,  which  is  an  attempt  by  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild  to  take  all  American  authors  under  authority — 
I  claim  nobody  has  any  authority  over  American  writers,  particularly 
not  American  writers.     We  have  laws  on  the  books  for  that,  of  course. 

The  Screen  Writers  Guild  tried  to  get  me  forced  out  of  the  Authors' 
League.  As  I  say,  they  did  not  succeed.  Then  I  was  subjected  to  a 
great  deal  of  violent  attack  and  slander.     1  tried  to  answer  it  in  kind. 

I  don't  know  who  is  a  Communist  because  I  have  never  seen  a  Com- 
munist card  and  most  of  them  are  either  discreet  or  cowardly  enough 
to  refuse  to  admit  they  are  Connnunists. 

Mr.  Stripling.  M'r.  Hughes,  at  that  point,  however,  by  observing 
their  activities  and  the  line  which  they  followed  weren't  you  able  to 
discern  which  ones  were  closely  associated  with  the  Conmiuiiists,  even 
though  you  do  not  have  their  Communist  Party  cards  'i 

Mr.  Hughes.  Yes.  You  can't  help  smelling  them,  in  a  way.  Their 
ideas  are  all  one  way.  I  have  had  furious  debates  with  Emmett  Lavery 
in  forums  and  privately  in  the  Authors'  Guild,  where  they  tried  to  force 
their  authority  on  the  Authors'  Guild,  the  Dramatists'  Guild. 

Lavery  is  a  good  Catholic,  he  says,  but  I  say  a  man  whose  views 
are  Communist,  whose  friends  are  Communists,  and  whose  work  is 
comnuinistic  is  a  Communist.  1  would  say  if  a  wolf  wear's  sheep's 
clothing  that  man  is  a  wolf. 

I  think  those  19  gentlemen  have  labeled  themselves  as  Communists, 
but  1  don't  know  that  any  one  of  them  is  one. 

One  thing  that  I  feel  tests  a  Connnunist  is  this:  Before  we  entered 
the  Second  W^orld  War  Hitler  and  Stalin  were  buddies  connnitted  to 
great  ideals,  destroying  Eugland  and  then  the  United  States.  I  was 
asked  to  take  part  in  a  forum  at  the  University  of  California  at  Los 
Angeles. 

Til  is  might  have  a  bearing,  sir,  on  one  writer  who  is  quite  prominent. 
Herbert  liiberman,  a  very  ])rominent  writer,  attacked  at  this  Uni- 
versity of  California  forum,  England,  lend-lease,  Roosevelt,  conscrip- 
tion, every  prepared  measure  we  attemi)ted.  I  was  hissed  and  booed 
on  that  same  program  where  he  was  loudly  applauded  because  1  at- 
tacked Hitler,  who  was  then  in  partnership  with  Stalin.  I  was 
charged  by  Communists  in  resolutions  as  being  a  bloody-minded  de- 
generate trying  to  get  the  blood  of  American  boys  spilletl  on  foreign 
soil.     Biberman  took  ])art  in  that. 

Then  when  Hitler  attacked  Stalin.  Biberman  and  his  brethren  came 
down  and  joined  a  regiment  of  which  I  was  a  colonel.     Charlie  Chap- 


130  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

lin  came  to  New  York  and  demanded  an  accounting  for  it.  They 
were  all  fighting  for  Russia,  not  for  us. 

That  is  the  way  I  tell  a  Communist,  a  man  who  never  says  a  word 
against  the  bloodiest  butcher  in  history,  Stalin,  and  who  says  violent 
words  against  the  most  modest  American.     That  is  my  test. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Hughes,  do  you  consider  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild  to  be  under  Communist  domination  at  the  present  time? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Weakeningly  so.  It  was  absolutely  under  Communist 
domination  when  the  authority  was  put  to  use.  It  was  voted  for 
something  like  310  to  7  and  the  poor  7  were  hissed  and  booed.  It  was 
revived,  then  the  last  vote  was  something  like  225  to  125.  The  anti- 
Communists  are  trying  to  take  it  back  and  I  have  some  hopes  they 
will  succeed.  It  has  been,  up  to  the  present,  strongly  dominated  by 
Communists. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  the  Communists  in  Hollywood  at  the 
present  time  are  on  the  defensive  or  on  the  offensive  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  think  they  are  on  the  defensive  now  because  they 
are  losing  a  great  many  of  those  fashion  followers  who  thought  it  was 
smart  to  be  Communists  and  who  now  find  it  is  unpopular  and  are 
deserting  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  the  attacks  which  they  are 
now  leveling  against  anyone  who  is  opposed  to  their  party  line,  shall 
we  say?  For  example,  the  committee  and  this  investigation.  They 
have  issued  numerous  statements  and  documents  to  the  effect  that  the 
committee  is  attempting  to  bring  about  thought  control.  What  is 
your  opinion  as  to  the  thought-control  theme  which  they  are  now 
following  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  nearly  died  laughing  when  a  large  meeting  was  held 
in  Hollywood  by  a  great  many  leftists  who  oppose  thought  control.  In 
Russia,  which  they  defend,  thought  control  or  free  thought  is  as  im- 
possible as  free  speech,  free  press,  and  free  assembly. 

I  think  Mr.  Kenny  and  his  group  are  very  comical  in  challenging  a 
congressional  committee  for  investigating  things  when,  if  they  opened 
their  mouths  in  Russia,  they  w^ould  be  shot  before  they  could  open  them 
a  second  time. 

I  think  it  is  infamous  for  any  American  to  keep  quiet  about  Russia. 
Russia  may  be  fighting  us  any  minute — in  fact  is  fighting  us  now.  I 
think  any  Communist  is  an  enemy  spy  or  agent.  I  don't  think  we  ought 
to  speak  to  them.  We  ought  to  treat  them  the  way  we  treated  Benedict 
Arnold.  They  are  worse  than  Benedict  Arnold.  They  are  fighting 
every  effort  anyone  has  ever  made. 

Tiiey  tried  to  force  me  out  of  the  Authors'  League,  as  well  as  others. 
I  know  anti-Communist  writers  in  Hollywood  who  have  been  forced 
practically  to  starvation  by  the  refusal  of  the  Communist  writers  to 
work  for  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Hughes,  who  are  the  people  in  Hollywood  that 
you  feel  could  do  most  to  thwart  the  activities  of  the  Communists  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  think  tlieir  names  have  been  mentioned  here  numer- 
ous times.  I  would  subscribe  to  all  of  them.  I  have  a  poor  memory. 
You  read  them  to  me  and  I  can  give  you  my  opinion  of  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  am  afraid  you  misunderstood  my  question.  I  will 
reframe  it. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  131 

Who  would  the  responsibility  rest  with  for  cleaning  the  Communists 
out  of  tlie  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  HuGiiKS.  Well,  I  think  the  producers  in  general  should  do  it 
because  they  are  the  people  who  liire  and  fire.  I  think  they  have  been 
unjustifiably  lax.  They  have  paid  from  $2,000  to  $5,000  a  week  to 
men  whom  they  know  to  be  brilliant.  Many  Communists  are  very,  very 
brilliant.     They  permit  them  to  as  little  poison  in. 

They  say  no  Communist  pictures  have  been  put  forth.  Of  course 
they  haven't.  Mission  to  Moscow  was  a  Communist  picture.  That 
rather  discouraged  Communist  propaganda,  but  where  you  see  a  little 
drop  of  cyanide  in  the  picture,  a  small  grain  of  arsenic,  something  that 
makes  every  Senator,  ever^;  businessman,  every  employer  a  crook  and 
which  destroys  our  beliefs  in  American  free  enterprise  and  free  insti- 
tutions, that  is  communistic.    The  producer  should  stop  it. 

We  have  many  Communist  directoi's  who  not  only  permit  but  en- 
courage it.  We  have  a  flood  of  Communist  writers.  Some  of  them  are 
openly  Communists  and  some  secretly. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  mentioned  Communist  directors.  Are  there 
aijy  directors  you  consider  to  be  Communists? 

Mr.  Hughes.  The  directors  I  consider  to  be  Communists,  I  have  no 
information  from  personal  interviews  and  personal  talks  with  them, 
but  they  were  mentioned  here  by  Sam  Wood,  who  knows  them  all. 
He  had  a  terrific  fight  in  the  Directors'  Guild.  The  Communists  tried 
to  take  that  over.  They  tried  to  take  over  the  Actors'  Guild  and  they 
have  tried  to  take  over  everything  in  America. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  no  personal  knowledge  yourself  of  any 
Communist  directors  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Not  from  personal  contact. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  any  personal  knowledge  of  any  Com- 
munist writers  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  know  a  great  many  writers  whom  I  consider  very 
communistic,  though  I  haven't  seen  their  cards.  There  are  dozens  of 
them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Who  would  you  say  is  the  key  figure  in  the  Com- 
munist set-up  in  the  motion-picture  industry  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  You  mean  as  distinguished  between  writers,  directors, 
and  producers  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes;  all  of  them.  Who  is  the  most  important,  to 
your  mind? 

Mr.  Huqhes.  I  think  they  are  all  equally  important  because  there 
has  to  be  team  play.  Everything  stems  from  the  writer.  The  director 
works  with  the  writer  and  of  course  the  producer  works  with  them 
both,  then  the  head  of  the  studio  works  with  them  all.  I  think  every- 
body shares  the  responsibility. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  interrupt  there?  As  I  understand  the  ques- 
tion, 3^ou  meant  who  is  the  leader,  what  individual  is  the  Communist 
leader  out  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  couldn't  say  that  any  one  man  is. 

The  Chairman.  Who  has  the  most  influence  ? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Some  individual,  you  mean  ? 

The  Chairman.  Yes ;  put  it  that  way. 

Mr.  Hughes.  I  should  hesitate  to  say  any  one  man  has  more  than 
anyone  else.   It  is  a  group  of  them. 


132  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  xVre  yon  faniiliiir  with  any  anti-C'omnmnist  films 
or  scripts  wliich  liave  been  submitted  or  films  which  have  been  protlnced 
in  Holl3'W()0(l  ? 

Mr.  HuGHKs.  I  can  tell  yon  of  two  experiences.  One  of  them  hap- 
pened to  me. 

A  man  came  to  me  and  wanted  to  do  an  anti-Commnnist  film  bnt  was 
afraid  to  do  one  directly  attackin<):  them,  for  fear  they  wonld  wreck 
the  theaters,  so  he  asked  me  to  do  a  picture  ridicnling  Communists 
and  said  AVarner  Bros,  would  be  interested  in  it  if  I  could  fui'uish 
a  story. 

I  went  over  it  at  luncheon  where  Jack  Warnei-  was  present,  Al  Jol- 
son,  who  was  then  a  stockholder,  and  otliers.  They  were  vei-y  enthu- 
siastic and  paid  me  $15,000  to  write  about  a  r),000-word  plot  attackin<»; 
American  Communists. 

In  the  meantime  Hal  Wallace,  who  was  their  business  manager,  had 
been  on  a  vacation  and  he  returned.  He  said,  "You  are  insane  to 
attempt  even  a  comic  picture  about  American  Communists  because 
they  will  put  stinkpots  in  every  theater  that  tries  to  show  it."  ♦ 

They  were  scared  off  and  never  did  the  picture.  I  had  my  $15,000 
and  I  still  have  my  story. 

This  is  hearsay  but  one  writer,  Galvin  Wells,  now  an  American 
citizen  who  was  an  Englishman,  went  to  Russia,  took  motion  pic- 
tures and  came  back  and  wrote  a  book  called  Caput,  because  everything 
in  Russia  was  broken  to  pieces,  all  the  taxicabs,  all  the  automobiles, 
all  the  machines.     Everything  was  caput. 

He  got  his  jiicture  through  with  some  difficulty  and  some  cleverness. 
He  told  me — this  is  only  hearsay — that  he  sold  the  picture  to  Sol  Lesser. 
Sol  Lesser  was  making  a  big  motion  picture  of  it  when  the  wife  of 
one  of  the  leading  Communist  writers — herself  being  a  very  prominent 
Communist — went  to  Sol  Lesser — this  so  I  am  told  by  Galvin  Wells — 
and  said,  "If  you  show  that  picture  we  will  cut  up  the  upholstery  and 
destroy  every  theater  where  it  is  shown."     Sol  Lesser  dropped  it. 

I  saw  the  picture  about  4  weeks  ago.  That  atmosphere  Avas  there, 
and  any  producer  who  had  the  faintest  idea  of  attacking  the  Com- 
munists was  scared  out,  frightened  by  a  conspiracy  to  wreck  the 
theaters,  put  stinkpots  in  the  theaters,  parade  in  front,  picket  them,  and 
everything  else. 

There  has  been  that  tyrannical  domination.  Hollywood  writers, 
producers,  and  directors  who  are  anti-Connnunist  have  been  scared 
into  silence. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  interrupt  you  there? 

Mr.  Hughes.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Hughes,  you  may  have  brought  in  a  new  point 
that  we  have  not  had  given  to  us  before,  and  that  is  the  main  reason  why 
the  producers  do  not  show  anti-Communist  films,  because  of  the  fear 
they  would  have  that  the  Communists  would  go  in  there  and  disrupt 
the  audience  in  the  theater  and  in  that  way  they  would  not  make  any 
money  as  a  result  of  showing  these  pictures.  That  is  a  new  idea  you 
have  given  to  us. 

Mr.  HucJHES.  I  think  you  could  find  a  thousand  instances  of  it.  You 
know  what  stiidcpots  did  at  restaurants  where  they  had  labor  trouble 
and  picketed  them. 


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The  writers  are  clever.  It  has  been  abnost  impossible  for  years  to 
get  a  word  said  a  to  1035. 
Under  that  reorganization  John  Howard  Lawson  was  the  first  presi- 
dent of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

Sometime  in  1935  a  new  constitution  was  proposed  for  the  Authors 
League  of  America  and  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  as  a  component 
part  of  that  organization.  We  discovered — a  group  of  us  discovered — 
that  for  CO  days  there  had  been  an  intensive  campaign  of  small  meet- 
ings educating  selected  groups  of  the  members  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild  of  this  new  constitution.  It  had  been  kept  away  from  those 
members  who  might  have  been  critical,  or  who  might  conceivably 
have  opposed  it. 

On  analysis  of  that  constitution  we  found  that  it  would'  result  in 
centering  within  the  board  of  directors  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild 
such  a  control  over  the  economic  existence  of  all  writers  that  it  pro- 
vided for  disciplinary  measures  to  be  applied  to  writers  guilty  of 
conduct  prejudicial  to  the  good  order  of  the  guild — without  specify- 
ing what  that  conduct  was — that  a  man  could  be  destro^'ed  economi- 
cally under  that  authority.    , 

So  we  fought  ratification  of  that  proposed  constitution  and  bylaws. 

FVominent  in  that  fight  to  ratify  the  constitution  were  John  Howard 
Lawson,  Donald  Ogden  Stewart,  Tess  Schlessinger,  now  deceased,  and 
her  then  husband,  Frank  Davis. 

Mr.  Smith.  How  many  members  were  there  in  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild  in  1935? 

Mr.  JNlcGuiNNESs.  I  would  say  somewhere  between  300  and  400 
members. 

Mr.  Smith.  What  proportion  of  the  screen  writers  were  membeis  of 
the  guild? 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  137 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  At  that  time  I  would  say  perhaps  60  jjercent. 

Mr.  Smith.  Diirinfj  the  period  of  the  Hitler-Stalin  pact,  what  oc- 
curred at  a  convention  oi  the  Lea<>ue  of  American  Writers  held  in  New 
York? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  At  that  time  there  had  been  a  strike  at  the  North 
American  aircraft  factory  in  In<>;hnvood,  Calif.  President  Roosevelt 
denounced  the  strike  as  Connuunist-inspired  and  a  conspiracy.  He 
sent  troops  to  reopen  the  plant. 

There  was  a  convention  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  held  in 
New  York  simultaneously  with  this  occurrence,  which  was  attended 
by  members,  either  officers  or  members,  of  the  board  of  directors  of 
the  Screen  Writers  Guild.  A  teletiram  was  dispatched  to  the  Presi- 
dent from  the  convention  of  the  Leai2:ue  of  American  Writers,  and 
sifjned  by  four  members  of  the  executive  board,  or  the  board  of  di- 
rectors, of  tlie  Screen  Writers  Guild.  Two  of  the  names  I  recall. 
They  were  Donald  Ogden  Stewart  and  John  Howard  Lawson. 

In  Hollywood  there  was  immediate  resentment  to  this  telegi-am 
signed  by  officers  and  members  of  the  board  of  the  Screen  AVriters 
Guikl,  and  agitation  of  pi'otest  ensued.  Presently  those  four  members 
were  forced  to  resign  their  official  positions  in  the  guild. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  McGuinness,  can  you  tell  us  any  other  Comnumist- 
front  organizations  that  were  formed  during  the  Stalin-Hitler  })act? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  I  think  during  the  Stalin-Hitler  })act,  during 
that  period  front  organizations  were  not  particularly  popular.  They 
were  formed  before  and  after  the  Hitler-Stalin  pact. 

Mr.  Smith.  What,  if  anything,  could  you  tell  us  about  the  Holly- 
wood Anti-Nazi  League? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  The  Hollywood  Anti-Nazi  League  was  formed 
with  a  very  sympathetic  title  which  enlisted  the  support  of  very  many 
excellent  and  patriotic  Americans  in  the  motion-picture  community. 

Shortly  after  its  organization  Mr.  Edward  Chodorov,  a  screen 
writer  and  playwright,  approached  Col.  Law^rence  Stallings,  the  author 
of  AAHiat  Price  Glory,  and  asked  him  if  he  and  I  w^ould  serve  as  co- 
chairmen  of  the  publicity  committee  of  that  organization.  Colonel 
Stallings  had  discussed  this  with  me,  and  having  had  some  experience 
with  Communist-controlled  groups  due  to  my  activity  in  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild.  I  said  I  would  be  only  too  happy  to  serve  if  somewhere, 
either  in  a  statement  of  j)rinciples,  or  in  the  title  of  the  organization, 
they  would  specify  they  were  equally  opposed  to  communism. 

Coloned  Stallings  carried  that  message  back  and  was  told  that  was 
impossible,  so  neither  Colonel  Stallings  or  I  served. 

Mr.  Smith.  The  American  Peace  Mobilization  was  formed  during 
the  time  you  referred  to,  I  believe.  Have  you  any  comments  regarding 
that  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  The  American  Peace  Mobilization  was  first 
formed  in  Hollywood  under  the  name,  I  think,  of  the  Emergency 
Peace  Conference.  Among  the  founder  members  was  Herbert  Biber- 
man,  a  motion-pictui-e  director. 

After  its  fcjrmation  in  Hollywood  it  took  on  national  scope,  became 
the  American  Peace  Mobilization,  and  during  the  period  of  the  Hitler- 
Stalin  pact  representatives  of  that  organization  picketed  the  White 
House,  denouncing  the  war  as  imperialist,  and  denouncing  the  Presi- 
dent as  a  warmonger. 


138  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  McGuinness,  in  your  opinion  were  any  pictures 
made  during  the  period  June  1941  through  1945  which  you  would 
consider  pro-Communist  pictures? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  During  the  period  of  the  war,  when  I  would  pre- 
fer to  call  them  pro-Soviets  more  so  than  pro-Communist,  there  were 
three  pictures  made  which  have  been  discussed  before  this  Committee: 
Mission  to  Moscow,  which,  in  my  opinion,  distorted  history;  North 
Star,  and  Song  of  Russia,  which  represented  Russia  as  a  never-never 
land,  flowing  with  milk  and  honey.  I  never  regarded  them  too  seri- 
ously since  they  were  made  during  the  war.  In  fact,  I  looked  on  them 
as  a  form  of  intellectual  lend-lease. 

I  might  say  that  we  profited  by  reverse  lend-lease  because  during 
the  same  period  the  Communist  and  Communist-inclined  writers  in 
the  motion-picture  industry  were  given  leave  of  absence  to  become 
patriotic. 

During  that  time  under  my  general  supervision  Dalton  Trumbo 
wrote  two  magnificently  patriotic  scripts,  A  Guy  Named  Joe,  and 
Thirty  Seconds  Over  Tokyo,  which  made  excellent  pictures,  I  think. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  McGuinness,  at  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  have  you 
ever  observed  any  efforts  on  behalf  of  the  Communist  Party  to  suppress 
a  picture? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes. 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  relate  that  to  the  committee? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  In  1941,  prior  to  our  entrance  into  the  war,  therfe 
was  written  and  produced  at  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  the  picture  called 
Tennessee  Johnson.  The  picture  was  based  on  the  life  of  Andrew 
Johnson.  It  was  basically  an  American  success  story  in  that  it  showed 
a  backwoodsman  from  Tennessee  who  was  illiterate  in  adulthood, 
taught  to  read  and  write  by  the  woman  who  later  became  his  wife, 
eventually  succeeding  to  the  office  of  President  of  the  United  States. 

It  showed  a  man  so  devoted  to  the  ideals  of  Abraham  Lincoln  that 
although  he  lacked  the  power  of  Lincoln  he  put  his  own  career  in 
jeopardy  to  carry  out  the  ideals  laid  down  by  his  predecessor. 

The  producer  of  this  picture,  J.  Walter  Reuben,  died  during  the 
actual  making  of  the  picture,  and  I  took  it  over  as 'part  of  my  executive 
functions. 

Before  the  shooting  of  the  picture  was  finished,  much  to  my  surprise, 
there  was  circulated  in  the  studio  a  protest  against  the  content  of  this 
picture,  signed  by  five  men  who,  in  my  opinion,  had  consistently  fol- 
lowed the  Communist  Party  line  in  every  twist  and  turn.  Those  men 
were  Donald  Ogden  Stewart;  Hy  Kraft,  a  writer;  Richard  Collins, 
a  writer ;  Jules  Dassin ;  and  Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  interrupt  right  there? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes,  sir.  ' 

The  Chairman.  The  Chair  would  like  to  say,  ]\Ir.  McGuinness,  this 
committee  has  made  a  very  thorough  investigation  of  Communist 
personnel  in  Hollywood.  We  have  a  very  complete  record  on  at  least 
79  persons  active  out  in  Hollywood.  The  time  will  come  in  these 
hearings  when  this  documented  evidence  will  be  presented,  so  I  just 
want  to  let  you  know  now  you  cannot  make  the  kind  of  investigation 
we  can,  but  we  have  made  a  very  thorough  investigation,  and  that 
material  will  be  presented  at  this  public  hearing,  either  some  time 
this  week  or  some  time  next  week. 

Mr.  McDowell.  May  I  just  ask  this  question? 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  139 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 
•    Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  McGuiiiness,  you  said  a  protest  was  circulated 
in  the  studio.    In  what  fashion  was  tliat — to  whom  did  it  go  ? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  Perhaps  the  word  "circulated"  is  wrong.  The 
protest  was  signed  by  these  men  and  sent  to  Mr.  Al  Lickman,  the 
executive  vice  president  who  had  over-all  control  of  the  production 
of  this  picture. 

The  CiiAiRMAisr.  The  record  will  show  Mr.  Wood  is  present,  and  a 
quorum  of  the  full  committee  is  present. 

Mr.  Smith.  ]Mr.  McGuinness,  will  you  give  those  names  again  and 
spell  them,  please? 

Mr.  MuGuiNNESS.  Hy  Kraft — K-r-a-f -t ;  Donald  Ogden  Stewart. 

Mr.  Smith.  Is  that  S-t-e-w-a-r-t  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes.    Ring  Lardner,  Jr. ;  Richard  Collins. 

Mr.  Smith.  And  Jules  Dassin  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes.    I  think  it  is  spelled  D-a-s-s-i-n. 

]\Ir.  S^iiTH.  AVas  there  any  more  information  or  further  statements 
made  at  that  time  as  to  what  this  group  or  their  associates  intended 
to  do  if  the  picture  was  not  suppressed? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  A  campaign  developed  immediately  afterward. 
The  picture,  which  had  not  been  finished  and  which  nobody  had  seen 
except  a  few  people  intimately  working  on  it,  was  attacked  as  misrep- 
resenting history  and  as  being  a  reflection  on  the  Negro  race. 

]\Ir.  Smith,  Was  the  picture  ever  finished  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  The  picture  was  finished.  I  could  not  at  first 
determine  the  reason  for  this  attack.  There  were  only  two  people  of 
the  colored  race  in  the  picture,  both  represented  as  dignified,  intelli- 
gent, and  fine  liuman  beings. 

I  discovered  later  through  investigation  that  since  we  had  made  a 
picture  concerning  the  life  of  Andrew  Johnson,  Thaddeus  Stephens 
had  appeared  as  a  manager  for  the  House  in  the  proceedings  in  the 
Senate  against  the  President;  that  Thaddeus  Stephens  had  been  used 
extensively  throughout  the  South  by  the  Communist  Party  as  the  first 
patron  saint  of  communism  in  the  United  States — as  a  very  heroic 
figure.  In  fact,  I  discovered  that  there  was  on  Central  Avenue  in 
Los  Angeles  a  Communist-front  club  called  the  Thaddeus  Stephens 
Club.  So,  in  representing  Mr.  Stephens  in  his  true  light  we  had 
apparently  done  the  Communists  a  disservice,  and  that  was  the  reason 
for  the  attempt  to  suppress  the  picture. 

Mr.  Smith.  Is  it  your  opinion  their  attempts  were  somewhat 
successful  in  suppressing  that  picture? 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Smith,  I  want  to  say  something  right  here. 

Mr.  Smith.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  McDow^ELL.  Just  to  keep  the  record  straight,  Thaddeus  Stephens 
was  a  gieat  American  patriot  and  citizen.  Pennsylvania  is  very  proud 
of  Thaddeus  Stephens  and  the  role  he  played  in  American  history. 

The  Chairman.  Wliat  were  you  going  to  say,  Mr.  McGuinness? 

Mr.  McGuinness.   I  don't  want  to  get  into  a  political  debate. 

Mr.  S311TH.  ]Mr.  jSIcGuinness,  do  you  think  their  efforts  were  some- 
what successful  in  suppressing  this  picture? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes.  I  believe  they  hurt  the  picture  to  some 
extent  largely  because  of  agitation  against  it,  which  coincided  with  the 
attack  on  Pearl  Harbor,  which  preceded  the  release  of  the  picture. 


140  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Metro-Goldwvn-Mayer  decided  that  aiiytliiii<>;  which  might  create 
any  kind  of  disturbance  within  our  covnitry  at  that  time  was  inad- 
visable, and  not  a  contribution  to  the  war  effort,  so  they  made  no 
exploitation  campaign  based  on  this  agitation  and  mei'ely  released  the 
picture  in  a  routine  form. 

Mr.  Smith.  When  did  the  Conununists  start  penetrating  the  motion- 
I)icture  industry,  to  your  knowledge? 

Mr.  Mc'Cjuinnkss.  I  would  say  the  Conununists  began  to  penetrate 
the  motion-picture  industry  in  the  early  thirties;  that  with  the  growth 
of  the  threat  of  Hitler  and  nazism  they  rose  and  were  able  to  enlist  the 
support  of  many  fine  people  who  naturally  wanted  to  fight  fascism. 

During  the  Si)anish  civil  war  there  was  great  sympathy  in  many 
quarters  in  Hollywood  for  the  cause  of  the  Loyalists.  This  influence 
waned  during  the  Hitler-Stalin  pact,  which  revolted  against  many 
fair-minded  people,  and  it  rose  to  its  greatest  height  under  tlie  very 
favorable  climate  provided  when  Russia  and  ourselves  were  allies 
during  the  war. 

The  CiiAiKMAX.  Mr.  McGuinness,  in  regard  to  that  penetration,  the 
Communists  have  not  only  penetrated  the  motion-picture  industry, 
they  have  penetrated  labor,  education,  and  Government;  so  when  we 
investigate  communism  in  the  motion-picture  industry  we  are  not 
taking  any  rights  away  from  the  industry;  we  are  not  in  any  way 
trying  to  censor  the  movies.  What  we  are  doing  is  just  investigating 
communism  in  another  field. 

Therefore,  1  think  it  is  a  mistake  for  anyone  to  think  that  the  mo- 
tion-picture industry  has  a  special  privilege  of  innnunity. 

Isn't  that  also  your  belief? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  am  very  happy  to  hear  the  Chair 
state  that.  I  would  like  to  state  my  own  personal  and  deep  conviction 
that  the  very  vast  majority  of  the  men  and  women  who  work  in  the 
motion-picture  industry  are  as  fine  and  patriotic  Americans  as  will  be 
found  anywhere  else  oh  earth. 

But  I  think  with  an  ideological  conflict  tearing  the  world  to  pieces 
there  is  no  reason  why  Hollywood  should  be  the  one  white  spot  that 
escaped  this  plague. 

T,he  Chairman.  That  is  right.  These  79  j^ersons  that  I  named 
before  are  not  just  the  run-of-the-mill;  they  are  very  prominent  per- 
sons, i^rominent  in  the  industry,  and  those  are  the  people  that  we 
have  the  records  on;  those  are  people  whose  records  are  going  to  be 
brought  out  before  this  hearing  is  over.  Do  you  not  think  they 
should  be  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  I  think  that  the  greatest  fight  that  can  be  made 
against  comnninism  is  to  identify  the  Communists  and  to  force  them 
to  take  the  responsibility  that  every  other  American  takes,  to  a])pear 
publicly,  state,  advocate,  and  siii)port  his  own  beliefs,  and  be  judged 
by  the  American  jjeople  as  to  whether  those  beliefs  are  worth  while, 
or  not. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  McGuinness,  has  there  been  any  concerted  effort 
on  the  p'dvt  of  any  studio  to  eliminate  this  group  of  people  ? 

INIr.  McGuinness.  Well,  as  Mr.  Jack  Wai'uer  testified,  he  made 
an  effort — I  think  a  successful  one.  I  think  great  caution  has  been 
exercised  bv  the  management  of  the  Paramount  Studios.     I  think  a 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  141 

varyin;ht  be  acceptable — 
I  don't  know  whether  all  will  be  acceptable — to  the  Soviet  Union. 

Mr.  Wood.  Do  yon  know  of  any  instance  in  which  any  of  them  who 
advocate  that  political  philosopliy  have  ever  had  any  difficulty  in 
obtaining  entrance  into  any  country  that  is  dominated  by  that  school 
of  thought? 

Mr.  Mc"Guixxi<:ss.  No;  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Wood.  Well,  have  yon  read  this  morning's  editorial  in  the 
AVasliin<>ton  Post  ? 

Mr.  McCjuinxess.  No.    I  think  there  was  a  cartoon  in  it  that  I  saw. 

Mr.  Wood.  It  had,  to  me.  a  very  interestinjj  editorial,  somewhat 
taking  to  task  certain  members  of  the  industry  who  have  appeared 
here  as  witnesses  because  of  their  pi-onounced  unwillingness  to  assume 
the  legal  implications  that  might  be  involved  by  concerted  action  on 
the  part  of  the  responsible  heads  of  the  industry  to  eliminate  this  class 
of  people  from  their  employment,  and  in  view  of  the  recent  decisions 
of  the  Supreme  Court  and  a  court  of  one  of  our  States,  particularly 
New  Yoik,  to  the  effect  that  the  term  "communism"  is  such  an  odious 
term  that  it  formed  tlie  fouiulation  for  an  action  in  damages  and  in 
libel  against  a  person  who  might  apply  it  to  another.  Don't  you  think 
that  the  responsible  studio  heads  of  this  country  have  at  least  some 
justification  in  their  unwillingness  by  their  concerted  action  to  under- 
take to  eliminate  men  from  their  employment  for  that  reason? 

Mr.  McGuiNXESs.  I  am  not  a  lawyer,  but  I  believe  that  legally  con- 
certed action  might  be  deemed  conspiracy. 

Mr.  Wood.  It  is  difficult  in  this  country  to  prove  that  a  man  is  a 
Conmumist ;  isn't  it? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  It  is.  My  own  observation  of  what  constitutes  a 
Communist  has  been  based  somewhat  on  this  principle,  that  if  a  man 
goes  into  a  saloon  every  night  for  10  years  I  have  to  presume  that  he 
didn't  go  there  to  get  a  lemonade.  I  also  follow  the  pattern  of  be- 
havior established  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  of  the  various  twists 
and  turns  of  the  Communist  Party  in  relation  to  the  Hitler-Stalin 
pact  period  when  it  was  an  imperialist  war.  the  change  of  front  and 
attitude  when  Hitler  attacked  Stalin,  the  demand  then  that  we  go  all 
out  to  aid  the  Allies,  and  the  su})sequent  demand  for  a  second  front. 

I  might  add  that  since  the  Attorney  General  has  left  office  there 
is  the  additional  return  to  the  revolutionary  technique,  on  the  basis 
of  the  Jacques  Duclos  letter  which  ordered  the  American  party  to 
get  rid  of  its  boss. 

The  CHAimr.vN.  May  we  have  more  order,  please. 

Mr.  Wood.  In  view,  then,  of  the  legal  implications  that  are  in- 
volved, and  that  might  at  least  be  put  in  force,  do  you  think  a  charge 
against  the  responsible  heads  of  the  moving-picture  industry  in  Amer- 
ica that  they  had  been  derelict  in  their  duty  for  not  conspiring  to- 
gether to  eliminate  ])eo])le  from  their  industry  because  of  their  political 
beliefs  is  a  little  bit  unfair? 

Mr.  McGuixNEss.  I  think  that  that  charge  is  unfair.  I  advocate 
no  conspiracy  by  any  group  of  men,  including  the  Communists.  I 
think  that  each  producer  or  head  of  a  studio  nuist  decide  for  himself 
what  his  attitude  is. 


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Mr.  Wood.  Wouldn't  it  be  very  simple,  in  your  opinion,  ]\Ir.  Mc- 
Guinness,  if  the  Congress  would  simply  by  amendatory  legislation 
provide  that  the  controlling  heads  of  any  industry  may,  if  they  have 
reasonable  grounds  to  conclude  that  a  man  is  engaged  in  activities 
detrimental  to  this  Government,  and  aiding  a  philosophy  that  is  de- 
signed to  overthrow  it,  would  have  the  right  to  eliminate  them  and 
that  other  people  in  that  industry  would  have  the  right  to  decline 
to  employ  them  for  that  reason,  without  fear  of  future  legal 
implications? 

Mr.  McGuiNNEss.  I  agree  with  that  in  principle,  Mr.  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood.  Thank  you. 

That  is  all,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Mr.  McGuinness,  in  attempting  to  influence  the  motion 
pictures  one  way  or  another,  either  in  keeping  out  the  facts  about 
communism  or  in  keeping  out  the  facts  about  the  American  way  of 
life  or  distorting  those  facts,  what  would  you  say  was  the  more  impor- 
tant :  The  writer  or  the  actor  ? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESs.  The  writer. 

Mr.  Nixon.  The  actor  has  probably  very  little  control  on  that  par- 
ticular score  and  could  do  very  little? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  It  depends  on  his  importance.  Most  stars  are 
listened  to  and  their  opinions  carry  weight 

Mv.  Nixon.  Well _  . 

Mr.  McGuinness  (continuing).  About  a  script,  but  very  few  of 
them,  if  any,  have  a  veto  power  on  what  pictures  they  appear  in. 

Mr.  Nixon.  But  in  the  making  of  the  actual  picture  itself,  the 
writer  is  by  far  the  more  important  of  the  two  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Oh,  yes. 

Mr.  Nixon.  And  the  same  would  be  true  in  relationship  to  the  di- 
rector and  the  actor? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Yes ;  I  think  the  director  is  more  important  in 
forming  and  framing  the  picture  than  the  actor. 

Mr.  Nixon..  That  is  right.  So,  as  far  as  the  Communists  are  con- 
cerned, their  primary  aim  in  Hollywood,  if  they  are  attempting  to  in- 
fluence the  motion  pictures  in  one  way  or  another,  is  to  attempt  to  en- 
list the  support  first  of  writers  and,  second,  of  directors  and  probably 
a  very  poor  third  of  actors. 

Mr.  McGuinness.  I  don't  think  that  they  have  neglected  the  actors, 
but  I  think  for  their  purposes- 


Mr.  Nixon.  For  their  purposes 

Mr.  IVIcGuiNNESs  (continuing).  The  order  you  establish  is  correct. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Yes;  and  if  they  have  been  extremely  successful,  or 
relatively  successful,  in  obtaining  the  support  of  writers  and  direc- 
tors, they  have  accomplished  their  purpose  to  an  extent,  at  least? 

Mr.  AIcGuiNNESS.  They  have  to  an  extent.     Not  completely. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Now,  during  the  war  you  said  that  the  Communist 
writers  wei'e  given  a  leave  of  absence,  as  you  put  it,  to  write  pictures 
which  showed  America  in  a  favorable  light.  Do  you  mean  by  that 
that  before  that  time,  and  since  that  time,  they  did  not  have  a  leave 
of  absence  to  tell  the  true  facts  about  America  ? 

Mr.  McGuinness.  Since  the  Duclos  letter — we  had  described  in 
quite  some  detail  yesterday. the  series  of  discussions  or  articles  in  the 
Communist  press,  in  which  as  a  final  result  Mr.  Albert  Maltz  was 


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forced  to  eat  his  own  words,  disciplined,  and  had  to  confess  error  and 
return  to  what  he  termed  the  Marxist  basis  for  all  writers.  That  is 
what  I  mean  by  the  terminology  "leave  of  absence." 

Mr.  Nixon.  I  see.  So  at  the  present  time  the  Communist  writers 
in  Hollywood,  or  those  who  are  following  the  Communist  line,  do 
not  have,  as  you  put  it,  a  so-called  leave  of  absence  to  either,  one,  tell 
the  true  facts  about  America,  and,  two,  tell  the  true  facts  about  totali- 
tarian communism. 

Mr.  McGuiNNESs.  I  believe  that  to  be  the  condition. 

Mr.  Nixon.  In  other  words,  the  situation  at  the  present  time  is  that 
those  who  are  following  the  Communist  line  as  writers  in  Hollywood 
are  under  direction  to  distort  the  facts  about  America  and  to  suppress 
the  facts  about  totalitarian  communism? 

Mr.  McGuiNNEss.  I  believe  that  to  be  true. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Well,  in  view  of  that  fact,  if  you  had,  as  a  studio  execu- 
tive, in  your  employ  writers  who  you  knew  were,  (1)  either  members 
of  the  Communist  Party — which  might  be  unlikely,  I  admit,  from 
the  standpoint  of  proof — or,  (2)  who  had  consistently  followed  the 
Communist  line,  would  you  feel  that  if  they  were  to  remain  in  your 
employ  they  would  have  to  be  watched  very  carefully  from  the 
standpoint  of  the  type  of  pictures  that  they  produced  and  their 
activities  in  attempting  to  control  the  pictures  in  some  way? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  Yes;  I  believe  they  should  be  watched  with 
vigilance  continually. 

Mr.  NixoN.  And  the  reason  you  feel  that  they  would  have  to  be 
watched  is  that  because  they  do  follow  the  line  which  you  have  ex- 
plained these  writers,  and  directors  as  well,  assuming  that  some  of 
those  would  be  involved,  constitute  a  potential  danger  to  the  industry 
and  to  the  country  as  well  in  that  what  they  advocate  and  what  they 
are  working  for  would  destroy  the  principles  which  you  believe  in 
and  which  most  of  us  in  America  believe  in  ? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  I  believe  that  the  only  group  in  the  United  States 
organized  for  the  purpose  of  exercising  thought  control  is  the  Com- 
munist group  and  if  they  ever  got  control  of  the  industry  nothing 
would  ever  appear  on  the  screen  but  their  own  conception  of  what  was 
best  for  all  of  us. 

Mr.  NixoN.  So,  if  a  motion  picture  does  not,  as  far  as  the  Com- 
munist writer  or  sympathizer  is  concerned,  as  we  have  put  it  before, 
distort  the  facts  about  America,  or  suppress  the  facts  about  commu- 
nistic Russia,  then  is  it  not  true  that  those  people  in  Hollywood  pro- 
ceed to  call  such  pictures  or  people  who  attempt  to  promote  such 
pictures  Fascists,  un-American,  and  enemies  of  free  speech — anti- 
liberals? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  They  call  us  all  that,  and  I  could  elaborate  the 
list. 

Mr.  Nixon.  You  mean  you  don't  want  to  say  anything  that  can't 
go  over  the  air  ? 

Mr.  McGuiNNESS.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Nixon.  And  so,  in  your  opinion,  the  most  violent  opponents 
of  a  free  screen  in  Hollywood,  and  of  free  speech,  are  the  Communists 
and  the  Communist  Party  liners,  because  as  far  as  they  are  concerned 
they  oppose  unequivocably  telling  the  truth  and  the  facts  about  Com- 
munist Russia,  or  anything  that  would  in  any  way  criticize  com- 
munism in  Russia,  or  any  other  totalitarian  Communist  country  and 


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because  tliey  deliberately  attempt  1o  distort  the  facts  about  America? 

Mr.  McGuixxESs.  I  a  earnestly  desirous  of 
a  rich.  exi»anding  literature  in  America  have  the  obligation  of  charting  the 
course.  This  common  effort  must  not  languish  while  we  search  for  unassailable 
definitions. 

It  has  been  my  conclusion  for  some  time  that  much  of  left-wing  artistic 
activity — both  creative  and  critical — has  been  restricted,  narrowed,  turned  away 
from  life,  sometimes  made  sterile — because  the  atmosphere  and  thinking  of  the 
literary  left  wing  has  been  based, upon  a  shallow  approach.    Let  me  add  that  the 

^^  See  appendix,  p.  .'")29.  for  oxliibits  .34-36. 


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left  wing  has  also  offered  a  iiuiuber  of  vital  liitelleetual  assets  to  the  writer — 
such  as  its  insistence  that  important  writing  cannot  he  socially  idle — that  it 
must  he  humane  in  content,  etc.  Schneidei-  enumerated  these  assets  and  I  take 
them  here  for  granted.  But  right  uow  it  is  essential  to  iliscuss  where  things 
have  gone  wrong — why  and  how. 

I  believe  that  the  effects  of  the  shallow  approach  I  have  mentioned — like  a 
poison  in  tiie  blood  stream — largely  cause  the  problems  Schneider  mentioned. 
Indeed,  these  problems  are  merely  the  pustules  upon  the  body,  the  sign  of  ill 
health. 

Let  me  underscore  that  I  am  referring  only  to  artistic  activity,  not  to  .iournal- 
ism.  Schneider  differentiates  generally  between  writing  for  the.  moment  and 
writing  enduring  works.  There  are  other  ways  of  phrasing  this  distinction,  but 
his  is  a  useful  one — provided  it  is  not  taken  with  mechanical  literalness.  For 
instance,  certain  works  have  been  written  for  the  moment  which  nevertheless 
prove  to  contain  enduring  values.  Such  examples  do  not  alter  the  true  meaning 
of  Schneider's  categories. 

Schneider  went  on  to  state,  correctly,  that:  "*  *  *  to  report  inunediate 
events  or  to  pi'opagandize  for  inunediate  objectives  *  *  *  jg  an  honorable 
as  well  as  a  useful  function.  (John  Keed  *  *  *  Ehrenburg. )  The  harm," 
he  added,  "is  in  confusing  the  two.  Some  writers  have  sought  to  solve  a  conflict 
of  conscience  by  trying  to  do  the  two  in  one"  ( i.  e.,  journalism  and  art).  "They 
have  written  books  in  such  a  way  as  also  to  serve  immediate  political  expediencies. 
The  results  showed  either  in  weakened  and  schematic  writing — or  wasted  writ- 
ing." 

In  these  remarks,  Schneider  recognizes  the  problem,  describes  it  accurately- — but 
does  not  go  on  to  uncover  the  deep  source  of  it.  Left-wing  writers  have  been 
confused  ;  yes.    But  why? 

The  answer,  1  believe,  is  tliis  :  Most  writers  on  the  left  have  been  confused. 
"The  conHict  of  conscience,"  resulting  in  wasted  writing  or  bad  art,  has  been  in- 
duced in  the  writer  by  the  intellectual  atmosphere  of  the  left  wing.  The  errors 
of  individual  writers  or  critics  largely  liow  from  a  central  source,  I  believe.  That 
source  is  the  vulgarization  of  the  theory  of  art  which  lies  behind  left-wing  think- 
ing, namely,  "art  is  a  weapon." 

Let  me  emphasize  that,  properly  and  broadly  interpreted,  I  accept  this  doctrine 
to  be  true.  The  ideas,  ethical  concepts,  credos  upon  which  a  writer  dra\\"s  con- 
sciously or  unconsciously  are  those  of  his  period.  In  turn,  the  accepted  beliefs 
of  any  period  reflect  those  values  which  are  satisfactory  to  the  class  holding 
dominant  social  power.  To  the  degree  that  works  of  art  reflect  or  attack  these 
values,  it  is  broadly — not  always  specifically — true  to  say  that  works  of  art  have 
been,  and  can  be.  weapons  in  men's  thinking,  and  therefore  in  the  struggle  of 
social  classes,  either  on  the  side  of  humanity's  progress,  or  on  the  side  of  reaction. 
But  as  interpreted  in  practice  for  the  last  !.">  years  of  the  left  wing  in  America, 
it  has  become  a  hard  rock  of  narrow  thinking.  The  total  concept,  "art  is  a 
weapon,"  has  been  viewed  as  though  it  consisted  of  only  one  word:  "weapon." 
The  nature  of  art — how  art  may  best  be  a  w^eapon,  and  how  it  may  not  be — has 
been  slurred  over.  I  have  come  to  believe  that  the  accepted  understanding  of  art  as 
a  weapon  is  not  a  useful  guide,  hut  a  strait-jacket.  I  have  felt  this  in  my  own 
works  and  viewed  it  in  the  works  of  others.  In  order  to  write  at  all,  it  has  long 
since  become  necessary  for  me  to  i-epudiate  it  and  abandon  it. 

Whatever  its  original  stimulating  utility  in  the  late  twenties  or  the  early 
thirties,  this  doctrine,  "art  is  a  weapon,"  over  the  years  in  day-to-day  wear  and 
tear  was  convei-ted  from  a  profound  analytic,  historical  insight  into  a  vulgar 
slogan  :  "Art  should  be  a  weapon."  This,  in  turn,  was  even  m(n-e  narrowly  inter- 
preted into  the  following:  "Art  should  be  a  weapon  as  a  leaflet  is  a  weapon." 
Finally,  in  practice,  it  lias  been  understood  to  mean  that  unless  art  is  a  weapon 
like  a  leaflet,  .serving  immediate  political  ends,  necessities,  and  programs,  it  is 
worthless  or  escapist  or  vicious. 

The  result  of  this  abuse  and  misuse  of  a  concept  upon  the  critic's  apparatus  of 
approach  has  been,  and  must  be.  disastrous.  From  it  tlow  all  of  the  constrictions 
and — we  nuist  be  honest — stupidities  too  often  found  in  the  earnest  but  narrow 
thinking  and  practice  of  the  literary  left  wing  in  these  past  years.  And  this  has 
been  inevitable. 

First  of  all.  luider  the  domination  of  this  vulgarized  approach,  creative  works 
are  judged  primai-ily  by  their  formal  ideology.  What  el.se  can  happen  if  art  is  a 
weapon  as  a  leaflet  is  a  weapon?  If  a  work,  however  thin  or  inept  as  a  piece  of 
literary  fabric,  expresses  ideas  that  .seem  to  fit  the  correct  political  tactics  of  the 
time,  it  is  a  foregone  conclusion  that  it  will  be  reviewed  warmly,  if  not  enthusi- 


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astically.  But  if  the  work,  no  matter  how  hich  in  human  insight,  character  por- 
trayal, and  imagination,  seems  to  imply  "wrong"  political  conclusions,  then  it 
will  be  indicted,  severally  mauled,  or  beheaded,  as  the  case  may  be. 

Let  me  give  a  recent  example  of  this  unhappy  pattern:  When  Lillian  Hellman's 
magnificent  play.  Watch  on  the  Rhine,  was  produced  in  1940,  the  New  Masses* 
critic  attacked  it.  When  it  appeared,  unaltered,  as  a  film  in  1942,  the  New  Masses' 
critic  hailed  it.  The  changed  attitude  came  not  from  the  fact  that  two  different 
critics  were  involved,  but  from  the  fact  that  events  had  transpired  in  the  2  years 
calling  for  a  different  political  program.  This  work  of  art  was  not  viewed  on 
either  occasion  as  to  its  real  quality,  its  deep  revelation  of  life,  character,  and  the 
social  scene,  but  primarily  as  to  whether  or  not  it  was  the  proper  "leaflet"  for  the 
moment. 

There  is  an  opposite  error,  corollary  to  this:  New  Masses'  critics  have  again 
and  again  praised  works  as  art  that  no  one — themselves  included — would  bother 
to  read  now,  10  years  later.  In  fact,  it  once  even  gave  a  prize  to  such  a  book. 
This  is  not  due  to  the  fact  that  those  who  have  written  criticism  for  the  magazine 
have  personally  been  without  taste  or  intelligence  or  integrity.  The  evil  lies  in 
the  abandonment  of  taste  because  a  shallow  approach-  does  not  permit  it.  Literary 
taste  can  only  operate  in  a  crippled  manner  when  canons  of  immediate  political 
utility  are  the  primary  values  of  judgment  to  be  applied  indiscriminately  to  all 
books. 

Again,  from  this  type  of  thinking  comes  that  approach  which  demands  of 
each  written  work  that  it  contain  "the  whole  truth."  An  author  writes  a  novel, 
let  us  say,  about  an  unemployed  Negro  during  the  depression.  The  central 
character,  after  many  harsh  vicissitudes,  ends  by  stealing  and  is  sent  to  the 
penitentiary.  If  a  book  with  this  content  were  to  be  richly  rendered,  it  might 
be  highly  illuminating  in  its  portrayal  of  an  aspect  of  Negro  life  in  America. 
But,  again  and  again  I  have  seen  such  works,  justifiably  confined  to  only  one 
sector  of  experience,  severely  criticized  because  they  do  not  contain  "the  whole 
truth."  Upon  examination  this  "whole  truth"  reveals  itself  to  be  purely  political. 
The  narrow  critic  is  demanding  that  the  novelist  also  show  that  some  unemployed 
Negroes  join  the  unemployed  councils,  etc.  This  demand,  which  I  have  seen 
repeated  in  varied  ways  in  the  pages  of  the  New  Masses,  rests  upon  the  psy- 
chological assumption  that  readers  come  to  each  book  with  an  empty  head.  They 
know  nothing,  understand  nothing.  Therefore,  all  they  will  ever  know  of 
Negro  life  in  America  must  be  contained  in  this  book.  Therefore,  if  the  author 
has  omitted  to  say  that  some  unemployed  Negroes  join  organizations,  it  is  a 
deficient  book  because  it  doesn't  contain  "the  whole  truth,"  and  it  doesn't  properly 
fill  the  total  vacuum  of  the  reader's  mind. 

The  creative  writer,  respecting  this  type  of  criticism,  is  faced  with  insuperable 
diflficulties.  He  is  confronted  with  thie  apparent  obligation  of  writing  both  a 
novel  and  an  editorial  that  will  embrace  all  current  political  propositions  re- 
motely touching  his  material.  Whether  or  not  his  character  would  join  the 
unemplo.ved  council  is  of  not  matter ;  whether  or  not  the  material  and  artistic 
concept  of  the  book  forbid  the  exa^irnaticn  of  otner  clinracters — that,  too,  is  of 
no  matter.  By  hook  oi'  crook  the  ni;iterial  must  he  so  rendered  that  the  whole 
polit.cal  "truth"  of  tiic  scene  is  made  visible,  and  the  empty-handed  reader  is 
thereby  won  to  new  horizons — Q.  E.  D. 

This  is  not  a  method  by  which  art  can  be  made  rich,  or  the  artist  freed  to  do 
his  most  useful  work.     Let  those  who  deny  this  ask  working  writers. 

From  this  narrow  approach  to  art  another  error  also  follows  rather  auto- 
matically. If,  in  actual  practice — no  matter  how  we  revere  art — we  assume 
that  a  writer  making  a  speech  is  performing  the  same  act  as  writing  a  novel, 
then  we  are  helpless  to  judge  works  written  by  those  who  make  the  "wrong"  sort 
of  speeches.  Engels  was  never  bothered  by  this  problem.  For  instance,  he  said 
of  Balzac — I  paraphrase— that  Balzac  taught  him  more  about  the  social  structure 
of  France  than  all  of  the  economists,  sociologists,  etc.,  of  the  period.  But  who 
was  Balzac?  He  was  a  Royalist,  consistently  and  virulently  antidemocratic, 
anti-Socialist,  anti-Communist  in  his  thinking  as  a  citizen. 

In  his  appreciation  of  Balzac,  Engels  understood  two  facts  about  art:  First, 
as  I  have  already  stated,  the  writer,  qua  citizen,  making  an  election  speech,  and 
the  writer,  qua  artist,  writing  a  novel,  is  performing  two  very  different  acts. 
Second,  Engels  understood  that  a  writer  may  be  confused,  or  even  stupid  and  reac- 
tionary in  thinking — and  yet  it  is  possible  for  him  to  do  good,  even  great,  work  as 
an  artist — work  that  even  serves  ends  he  despises.  This  point  is  critical  for  an 
understanding  of  art  and  artists.  An  artist  can  be  a  great  artist  without  being 
an  integrated  or  a  logical  or  a  progressive  thinker  on  all  matters.     This  is  so 


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because  he  presents  not  a  systematized  philosophy  but  the  nnaginative  reconstrue- 
tion  of  a  sector  of  human  experience.  Indeed,  most  people  do  not  think  with  thor- 
ouKhguing  hjgic.  We  are  all  acquainted  with  Jews  who  understand  the  necessity 
of  fighting  fascism,  but  who  do  not  see  the  relationship  between  fascism  and  their 
own  discrimination  toward  Negroes.  We  l.  It  is  apparent  from 
the  statements  of  committee  members,  investigators,  and  witnesses  that  the  im- 
mediate target  of  these  hearings  will  be  the  democratic  guilds  and  unions  of  the 
picture  industry.  In  the  subcommittee  hearings  this  spring,  the  Screen  Writers' 
Guild  was  slanderously  attacked  as  the  center  of  subversive  activity  in  Holly- 
wood and  afforded  no  opportunity  to  answer  tlie  charge.  We  are  now  sufficiently 
acquainted  with  the  record  and  methods  of  this  committee  to  know  positively 
that  there  is  no  way  to  obtain  a  fair  hearing  under  its  auspices  for  our  side  of 
the  case.  For  these  reasons,  and  because  every  intelligent  American  knows  that 
the  eventual  target  of  the  committee  is  tlie  freedom  of  the  screen  and  American 
democratic  rights  in  general,  it  is  fitting  that  tlie  Screen  Writers'  Guild  should 
issue  the  following  call  to  tlie  other  employee  and  employer  organizations  in  the 
industry : 

"That  the  various  guilds,  unions,  and  producer  organizations  in  Hollywood 
unite  in  opposition  to  the  conspiracy  against  the  motion-picture  industry  between 
a  few  individuals  within  the  industry  and  tlie  controlling  faction  of  the  House 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities;  that  these  groups,  representing  the  over- 
whelming majority  sentiment  of  the  industry,  use  every  means  at  their  disposal 
to  expose  in  advance  the  nature  and  purpose  of  the  so-called  hearings  now 
scheduled  for  September  23 ;  and  that  these  groups  combine  their  talents  and 
existing  channels  for  appearing  to  public  opinion  in  order  to  present  our  side  of 
tlie  story  to  the  American  people  during  and  after  the  committee  sessions  in 
Washington." 

Mr.  Smith.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDow^ELL.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon. 

Mr.  Nixon.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  NiBLo.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Smith. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Richard  Macaulay. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Macaulay. 

Raise  your  right  hand.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony 
you  are  about  to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but 
the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  I  do. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  197 

TESTIMONY  OF  KICHARD  MACATJLAY 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  state  your  name,  please,  Mr.  Macaulay? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Richard  Macaulay. 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  spell  your  name,  please  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  M-a-c-a-u-1-a-y. 

Mr.  Smitit.  Richard  Macaulay? 

;Mr.  Macaulay.  That  is  rif^ht. 

Mr.  Smith.  AVhere  do  you  live,  Mr.  Macaulay  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  9909  Robbins  Drive,  Beverly  Hills,  Calif. 

Mr.  Smith.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Chicago,  111.,  August  18,  1909. 

Mr.  Smith.  You  are  here  in  response  to  a  subpena  heretofore 
served  upon  j^ou?  ^- 

Mr.  ]\1acaulay.  I  am. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Macaulay,  what  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  I  am  a  writer. 

Mr.  Smith.  For  w^hom? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  At  the  present  moment  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. 

Mr.  Smith.  How  long  have  you  been  a  writer? 

!Mr.  Macaulay.  About  20  years. 

Mr.  Smith.  A  screen  writer  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  No.  Before  that  I  was  a  magazine  writer  and  a 
radio  writer  previous  to  that. 

Mr.  Smith.  For  whom  have  you  written?  Will  you  name  some 
of  the  people  or  organizations  for  whom  you  have  written  in  the  past 
20  years,  and  your  experience? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Both  of  the  broadcasting  companies,  the  Saturday 
Evening  Post,  the  magazines,  Warner  Bros.,  Columbia,  RKO,  Metro- 
Goldwyn-Mayer.  Universal. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Macaulay,  how  long  have  you  been  associated 
with  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  For  the  last  12  years  Avith  the  exception  of  3  years 
when  I  was  in  the  service. 

Mr.  Smith.  Are  j^ou  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  I  am. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  actively  participate  in  that  organization? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Yes ;  I  do." 

Mr.  Smith.  And  for  what  period  of  time? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Ever  since  I  have  been  in  Hollywood,  ever  since  the 
reactivation  of  the  guild  in  1936. 

Mr.  Smith.  In  your  opinion  have  there  been  any  Communists  in 
control  or  attempts  to  control  the  policies  of  the  Screen  Writers' 
Guild? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Yes.  There  always  had  been,  I  understood,  before 
I  came  in  but  after  we  reorganized  in  1936  such  control  became  more 
and  more  evident. 

Mr.  Smith.  Can  you  explain  some  of  the  things  that  this  group  of 
people  do  that  you  feel  are  communistically  inclined  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  To  begin  with,  they  have  a  constant  program  of 
intimidation.    As  time  went  on,  only  a  very  few  would  get  up  on  the 

^  ."^pe  appendix,  p.  531,  for  exhibit  43. 


198  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

floor  of  the  guild  and  attempt  to  oppose  the  controlling  faction.  There 
are  some  members  of  the  guild  who  are  booed  and  hissed  the  moment 
they  arise  before  they  open  their  mouths,  on  many  occasions.  This 
frequently  seems  to  be  the  result  of  a  well-organized  clique.  Even  if 
they  let  you  get  up  without  bothering  you,  before  you  have  proceeded 
five  sentences  into  your  remarks  someone  is  certainly  liable  to  start 
hissing  you. 

Mr.  Smith.  You  say  "this  group."  Wliom  do  you  mean  by  "they" 
or  "this  group"? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  The  Communists,  and  the  boys  who  play  along 
with  them. 

Mr.  Smith.  Are  you  able  to  identify  some  of  these  individuals,  in 
your  opinion? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Oh,  yes. 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  do  so  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  A  lot  of  these  people — a  few  of  them  may  not  be 
Communists.     I  might  possibly  be  doing  an  injustice  to  some  of  them. 

Mr.  Smith.  We  would  prefer  you  name  only  those  in  the  guild 
whom  you  feel  are  Communists. 

Mr.  Macaulay.  I  am  morally  certain  of  all  of  them.  I  merely  say 
if  they  habitually  consort  with  bank  robbers  and  the  bank  on  the  next 
street  is  knocked  off  they  can't  holler  if  someone  blows  the  whistle. 

They  are :  Alvah  Bessie,  Lester  Cole,  Gordon  Kahn,  Howard  Koch, 
Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  John  Howard  Lawson,  Albert  Maltz,  Samuel 
Ornitz,  Waldo  Salt,  Robert  Rossen,  Dalton  Trumbo.  Guy  Endore, 
Richard  Collins,  Marian  Spitzer,  Hugo  Butler,  Donald  Ogden  Stewart, 
Paul  Trivers,  Maurice  Rapf,  Henry  Meyers,  John  Wexley,  Ronald 
MacDougall,  John  Collier,  Abraham  Polensky,  William  Pomerance, 
Harold  Buchman,  Melvvn  Lew,  Clifford  Odets,  and  Michael  Blank- 
fort. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Macaulay,  have  you  had  any  experience  writing 
any  articles  for  the  Screen  Writers  magazine? 

ikr.  Macaulay.  Yes ;  I  had  such  an  experience.  Alvah  Bessie  had 
written  an  article  for  the  magazine  sometime  previous  to  my  attempt. 
I  attempted  to  answer  this  article.  Mr.  Bessie  in  his  article  com- 
plained about  the  things  he  could  not  write  about  because  of  capital- 
istic oppression  both  in  the  movies  and  in  the  general  press  and  the 
magazine  groups. 

I  answered  this  article,  the  basis  of  my  article  being  this  fact,  that 
I  was  prevented  from  writing  many  things  about  which  I  would  like 
to  write  because  of  the  active  interference  of  Mr.  Bessie  and  his  friends. 

This  article  was  turned  down  by  Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo,  the  editor  of 
the  magazine. 

Mr.  Smith.  How  do  you  feel  it  was  turned  down  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Mr.  Trumbo  gave  several  remarkable  reasons,  one 
of  them  beinn;  that  I  had  attacked  minority  groups,  I  had  attacked 
the  Roman  Catholic  Church.  This  was  remarkable  coming  from 
Dalton  Trumbo,  doubly  so,  and  the  fact  that  I  am  a  Roman  Catholic. 
The  reasons  were  completely  specious,  and  obviously  so. 
Mr.  Smith.  What  action,  if  any,  did  you  then  take? 
Mr.  Macaulay.  Later  on  to  one  of  the  editors  of  the  magazine  T 
said,  "It  is  obvious  that  there  is  no  likelihood  that  anything  I  would 
write  could  be  printed  in  the  Screen  Writer,"  and  he  said,  "I  think  you 
are  absolutely  right." 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  199 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  these  letters  and  I  think  they 
should  be  offered  only  as  exhibits. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered.^^ 
(The  letters  referred  to  are  as  follows:) 

March  9,  1946. 
Mr.  Richard  Macatjlay. 

Beverly  Hills,  Calif. 
Dear  Mr.  Macatilay  :  Thanks  for  your  letter  to  Mv.  Eugene  Dooley,  of  which  I 
just  received  the  carbon  copy.  I  will  submit  it  to  the  editorial  committee,  which, 
I  feel  sure,  will  want  to  run  it  in  the  April  Screen  Writer  (out  about  April  10). 
Your  int(>resting  article  on  censorship  will  come  up  for  final  disposal  at  the 
editorial  committee  meeting  next  Thursday  night  and.  from  talks  I  have  had 
with  several  members  of  the  committee,  I  feel  I  can  virtually  assure  you  that  it 
will  be  accepted  for  the  April  issue,  as  well. 

Incidentally,  if  you  receive  a  publishable  answer  from  Mr.  Dooley,  I  think  our 
readers  will  be  interested  in  what  he  has  to  say. 
Thanks  for  your  continued  interest  in  the  magazine. 
Sincerely, 

Harold  J.  Salem  son, 
Director  of  Publications. 


March  22,  1946. 
Mr.  Richard  Macaulay. 

Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Dear  Mr.  Macaut..\y  :  The  editorial  board  has  decided  against  publishing  your 
article  Who  Censors  What?  and  your  letter  to  Mr.  Eugene  Dooley  of  St.  Elizabeth's 
Church. 

The  material  slanders  four  million  Americans  of  Italian  descent;  it  attacks 
organized  labor;  it  takes  the  Government  to  task  on  issues  which  have  nothing 
to  do  with  screen  writers ;  it  contains  statements  which  might  be  construed  as 
Incitement  to  attack  upon  various  religious  faiths,  especially  the  Roman  Catholic. 

We  do  not  question  the  courage  of  the  Warsaw  Poles  who  participated  in 
General  Bor's  "magnificent,  doomed  uprising,"  just  as  we  do  not  question  the 
courage  of  the  men  and  women  who  arose  in  that  earlier  and  more  surely  doomed 
effort  which  came  to  be  known  as  the  battle  of  the  Warsaw  ghetto.  The  Alexander 
Hamilton  film  you  proposed  was  done  by  Warner  Bros,  in  1932,  starring  the  late 
George  Arliss.  It  is,  however,  improbable  that  the  picture  fulfilled  your  require- 
ments of  portraying  .Jefferson  as  "our  prime  villain  in  history." 

It  is  ditficult  to  support  your  belief  in  "the  inalienable  right  of  man's  mind 
to  be  exposed  to  any  thought  whatsoever,  however  intolerable  that  thought  might 
be  to  anyone  else."  Frequently  such  a  right  encroaches  upon  the  right  of  others 
to  their  lives.  It  was  this  "inalienable  right"  in  Fascist  countries  which  directly 
resulted  in  the  slaughter  of  five  million  Jews. 
Very  truly, 

Dalton  Trumbo, 
(For  the  Editorial  Committee  of  the  Screen  Writer.) 


[From  Variety,  published  October  14,  1946] 

Who  Censors  What? 

(By  Richard  ^Macaulay) 

In  a  recent  issue  of  the  Screen  Writer,  Mr.  Alvah  Bessie  consumed  eight 
pages  of  print  in  the  i»roving  of  what  every  writer  knows — namely,  that  there 
are  certain  forces  which,  all  too  often,  successfully  prevent  a  writer  from  present- 
ing the  truth,  or  his  conception  thereof.  The  only  unique  thing  about  Mr. 
Bessie's  piece  was  his  apparent  a.ssumptinn  that  writers  seeking  to  interpret 
honestly  the  Spanish  Civil  War  have  been  the  only  sufferers  in  this  respect, 
although  there  was  also  the  implication  that  any  cause  dear  to  the  Writers' 

'*  See  appentlix,  p.  531,  for  exhibits  44-46. 


200  COMMUXISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Congress  would  have  similar  dlfllcultios  in  reaching  the  motion  picture  screen. 
It  is  not  difficult  to  understand  Mr.  Bessie's  preoccupation  with  the  Spanish 
war.  To  the  soldier,  the  biggest  battle  is  the  one  in  which  he  was  hurt,  or 
most  frightened.  The  man  who  liit  Iwo  Jima  on  D-day  will  believe  forevermore 
that  this  was  the  concentrated  hell-hole  of  the  war,  although  he  cannot  be  ex- 
pected to  argue  this  successfully  with  a  man  who  measures  his  beachheads  by 
the  standards  of  Salerno.  And  so,  the  war  to  Mr.  Bessie  is  contained  prin- 
cipally in  Spain,  although  it  is  difficult  for  the  average  American  soldier  who 
served  in  north  Africa  and  Sicily  to  tliinlv  of  the  Italian  soldier  as  a  formidable 
opponent. 

HERE  COMES  THE  CENSOR 

It  is,  in  fact,  this  latter  conception  which  has  resulted  in  my  own  most  re- 
cent contact  with  the  subterranean  forces  of  uncodified  censorship.  I  wrote 
a  story  called  Trouble  Near  Bataglia.  It  was  a  simple  story,  and  in  it  my 
American  soldiers  had  a  definite  attitude  toward  the  Italian  people.  This 
attitude,  as  lield  by  my  soldiers,  was  undoubtedly  shared  by  Da  percent  of  all 
American  soldiers  who  served  in  Sicily  or  Italy.  My  story  represented  an 
accurate  poi'trayal  of  an  attitude  that  does  exist,  and  widely. 

The  letter  to  my  agent  from  the  first  magazine  to  which  the  story  was  presented 
began  as  follows:  "Trouble  Near  Bataglia  is  a  magnificent  story,  and  naturally 
neither  this  magazine  nor  any  other  publication  that  we  know  of  is  going  to 
print  it." 

AFRAID    OF    STINK 

Now,  of  whom  was  this  editor  afraid?  And  the  other  editors,  for  whom  he 
assumed  to  speak  .so  authoritatively?  (And  accurately!)  Well,  I'll  tell  you. 
First  of  all,  they  are  afraid  of  that  segment  of  the  Italian-American  population 
which,  correctly  enough,  still  places  the  "Italian"  first  in  the  hyphenation  of 
their  citizenship.  And  second.arily,  these  editors  are  afraid  of  Mr.  Bessie  and 
his  friends,  knowing  well  their  talent  for  creating  an  organized,  well-publicized 
stink. 

Let's  start  considering  various  things  which  yoti  can't  put  on  the  screen. 
Let's  take  labor  leaders.  I  think  the  life  of  .Tames  Caesar  Petrillo  would  make 
a  fascinating  screen  play.  As  a  writer  who  thinks  he  knows  dramatic  material, 
I  would  like  to  have  a  few  months  to  fool  around  with  the  life  of  Dan  Tobin.  I 
think  that  a  motion  picture  honestly  investigating  the  modus  operandi  of  the 
building  trade  unions  would  have  unlimited  possibilities  for  entertainment, 
di'ama,  and  public  enlightenment.  But  if  I  have  to  take  time  out  and  prepare 
a  treatment,  or  a  screen  play,  on  any  one  of  these  three  fertile  subjects,  what  do 
you  think  my  chances  would  be  of  selling?  Negligible,  naturally.  And  if  any 
producer,  new  in  town,  were  so  stupid  as  to  buy  it,  the  project  would  still  never 
reach  the  screen. 

SAME  OLD  OPPOSITION 

Aside  from  my  obvious  difficulties  with  the  Messrs.  Tobin  and  Petrillo  anu 
their  families  and  the  loyal  members  of  their  organizations,  I  greatly  fear  that 
I  would  encounter  again  determined  opposition  fi'om  IMr.  Bessie  and  his  friends, 
and  unsavory  words  might  be  applied  to  me,  such  as  "fink"  and  many  other  less 
printable. 

On  the  other  hand,  I  have  seen  a  great  many  motion  pictures  where  captains 
of  finance  and  management  have  been  depicted  as  cruel,  avaricious  men,  devotedly 
concentrated  on  their  own  agrandizement,  and  callously  oblivious  to  the  public 
weal.  Also,  the  real  American  Faceless  I\Ian,  the  typical  bourgeois,  is  portrayed 
consistently  as  a  silly  little  fellow,  devoid  of  any  real  decency  or  intelligence,  and 
yet  capable  of  almost  any  crime  in  the  book,  ranging  from  inept  cupidity  to 
grotesque  murder. 

BUSY  BUSINESSMAN 

However,  nothing  in  the  way  of  concerted  protest  happens  in  either  of  these 
cases.  The  national  Association  of  Manufacturers  and  the  United  States  Cham- 
ber of  Commerce  have,  by  their  very  nature,  limited  memberships.  These  men 
ordinarily  are  too  busy  to  organize  boisterous  minorities  into  effective  weapons 
of  suppression. 

As  for  the  Faceless  Man,  he  is  eternally  unorganized,  squeezed  hard  between 
management  and  labor,  with  his  screams  of  anguish  unpitied  and  unheard.     This 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  201 

group,  unable  effectively  to  protest  its  own  assassination,  certainly  will  never 
organize  in  protest  against  a  motion  picture. 

In  more  general  concepts  of  life,  a  picture  which  presented  the  thesis  that 
unwedded  bliss  can  be  a  pretty  good  thing,  or  that  a  woman  who  hates  her  husband 
should  divorce  him,  would  run  into  a  blizzard  of  blows.  Even  granting  the 
preposterous  premise  that  the  script  of  such  a  picture  got  by  the  Johnston  office, 
what  would  happen  to  it  after  it  reached  the  screen?  The  Legion  of  Decency, 
the  Knights  of  Columbus,  the  Watch  and  "Ward  Society,  and  a  thousand  other 
organizations  who  watch  broodingly  over  public  morals  would  descend  on  the  film 
with  drooling  jowl  and  bared  fang. 

STORY  OF  WARSAW 

I  freely  admit  that  Mr.  Bessie  and  his  friends  would  raise  no  outcry  against 
any  of  the  proposed  scenarios  outlined  in  the  above  two  paragraphs.  Neither, 
I  also  admit,  should  anyone  else  in  a  society  which  even  pretends  to  believe  in 
the  inalienable  right  of  man's  mind  to  be  exposed  to  any  thought  whatsoever, 
however  intolerable  that  thought  might  be  to  anyone  else. 

But  I  fear  that  Mr.  Bessie  might  take  a  jaundiced  view  of  any  effort  to  bring 
to  the  screen  General  Bor's  magnificent,  doomed  uprising  in  Warsaw,  which 
perished  for  lack  of  aid  even  as  Russian  troops  sat  on  the  eastern  bank  of  the 
Vistula.  I  use  the  word  "magnificent"  advisedly,  speaking  in  terms  of  human 
courage.  I  am  not  prepared  to  pass  on  the  politics  tliat  went  into  the  situation. 
All  I  know  is  that  the  attempted  liberation  of  War.saw  was  a  brave  effort,  of  a 
people  arising  against  a  conqueror,  only  to  have  their  high  hope  wither  to 
bleak  despair  and  ultimate  starvation  and  defeat. 

Yet  I  am  afraid  that  if  Mr.  Bessie  and  friends  did  not  tr.v  to  stop  the  making 
of  this  picture,  ibey  would  certainly  speak  very  sternly  ;igaiiist  it,  and  perhaps, 
attempt  to  invoke  sanctions. 

"CO.NFESSIONS"   AGAIX 

Many  honest  citizens  of  this  country  regard  communism  with  a  fear  and  a 
horror  equal  to  that  which  they  bestow  on  fascism,  nazism,  or  any  other  form 
of  state  authoritarianism.  Some  time  before  the  war  Warner  Bros,  produced 
a  motion  picture  entitled  "Confessions  of  Nazi  Spy."  This  was  a  very  good 
picture,  timely,  and,  as  proved  by  subsequent  events,  quite  accurate  in  its 
premise.  But  what  would  happen  now  if  some  honest  citizen  attempted  to 
make  a  picture  with  his  fears  and  suspicions  of  the  Soviet  as  his  subject? 
I  don't  think  yiv.  Bessie  would  permit  it,  and  of  the  many  protest  committees 
which  would  form  immediatel.v  I  think  that  a  substantial  percentage  of  the 
names  could  also  be  found  on  the  membership  list  of  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild. 

I  think  it  amusing  for  Mr.  Bessie  to  complain  of  something  he  can't  write 
about,  and  here's  why :  There  are  so  many  things  I  wouldn't  be  able  to  write 
about  because  of  Mr.  Bessie. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Macaulay,  do  you  think  communism  is  a  threat  in 
the  motion-picture  industry  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  JMacaulay.  Yes:  1  do;  very  definitely.  The  AA'ay  these  men 
used  to  operate  in  the  guild 

Mr.  Smith.  The  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  JMacaulay,  Yes.  They  made  a  man's  name  a  byword  and  a 
hissing  if  he  so  much  as  dared  "mention  the  name  of  comminiism  or 
say  the  word  "Communist."  By  this  indoctrination  and  inculcation 
that  they  gave  to  the  vast  middle  mass  of  the  guild  they  nvade  it  n 
terrible  thing.  A  man  was  a  moron  or  imbecile  if  he  said  the  word 
"communism." 

They  have  so  successfully  indoctrinated  even  well-meaning  mem- 
bers of  the  guild  with  this  idea  that  recently  at  a  caucus  of  a  bunch 
of  moderates  who  dedicated  themselves  to  trying  to  throw  the  Com- 
munists out  at  the  forthcoming  guild  election  in  November,  it  was 
decided  there  not  to  use  the  word  "Communist."  Instead  we  referred 
to  the  opposition  as  the  "Lester  Cole  faction." 


202  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  McDo^VEIX.  As  the  what? 

]Mr.  Macaulay.  The  "Lester  Cole  faction." 

The  Chalrman.  The  record  will  show  Mr.  Wood  is  present.  A 
quorum  is  present. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Macaulay,  what  do  you  feel  could  be  done  to  oppose 
this  threat? 

Mr.  Macaui^^y.  The  obvious  thing  is  to  throw  them  out  at  the  next 
election,  if  we  can,  within  my  own  guild — and  I  have  been  speaking 
most  specifically  of  the  problem  within  my  own  guild.  If  we  can  vote 
them  out  of  oflice  we  will  certainly  clip  their  wings. 

In  general,  as  far  as  the  country  goes,  I  definitely  feel  the  Commu- 
nist Party  should  be  outlawed.  I  think  it  is  not  a  political  party  at 
all ;  it  is  a  seditious  conspiracy  and  should  be  treated  as  such. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood  ? 

Mr.  Wood.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell  ? 

Mr.  McDowell.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  ]\Ir.  Nixon  ? 

Mr.  Nixon.  Mr.  Macaulay,  you  said  in  naming  a  considerable  list 
of  people  that  you  felt  were  Communists,  that  is,  in  your  opinion, 
you  did  not  want  to  do  any  of  them  an  injustice.  I  think  it  might  be 
well  if  you  would  indicate  what  specific  actions  these  people  generally 
indulged  in  which  led  you  to  form  that  opinion. 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Mr.  Nixon,  they  have  all  followed  the  tortuous 
twists  of  the  Communist  Party  line  through  Russia's  various  jumps, 
j)receding  and  during  the  war.  A  man  can  accidentally  join  one  or 
two  Communist-front  organizations,  but  when  you  find  them  in  five, 
six,  or  seven  I  think  the  supposition  is  reasonable  that  he  knows  what 
he  is  doing. 

Primarily  these  men  have  followed,  no  matter  how  ridiculous  it 
got,  the  party  line  of  the  Communist  Party.  They  have  always  voted 
as  a  group.  You  will  never  find  any  of  these  men  I  mentioned  voting 
differently  on  a  given  question. 

Mr.  Nixon,  In  other  words,  you  would  summarize  it  in  this  way: 
They  have  consistently  followed  the  Communist  line  in  foreign  policy  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  Yes. 

Mr.  Nixon.  They  have  consistently  belonged  to  Communist-front 
organizations  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Nixon.  They  have  voted  as  a  group  with  the  Communists  in 
every  case  ? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  IN^ixoN.  And  they  have  indulged  in  this  campaign  of  abuse 
against  those  who  have  indicated  they  might  have  some  opposition  to 
Comnuuiists? 

Mr.  Macaulay.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Nixon.  And  the  fact  that  these  people,  all  of  whom  you  have 
named,  have  consistently  participated  in  those  activities;  that  is  the 
basis  for  your  opinion  that  they  are  Communists  or  that  they  are 
consistent  Communist  sympathizers  2 


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Mr.  Macaulav.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Thank  yon. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Smith,  do  you  have  any  more  questions? 

Mr.  SMrrn.  That  is  all,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Macaulay. 

(Witness  excused.) 

The  Chairman.  Your  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling,  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  will  be  Mr.  Robert 
Montgomery. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Montgomery,  will  you  raise  your  right  hand, 
please  ? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is  the 
truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ROBERT  MONTGOMERY 

Mr.  STRirLixG.  Mr.  IMontgomer}-,  will  ycu  state  your  full  name 
and  present  address,  please? 

Ml'.  MoNTG03[ERY.  liobei't  Montgomery,  10430  Bellagio  Road,  Belair, 
Los  Angeles  24,  Calif. 

Mr.  Strh'ling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Montgomery? 

Mr.  JSIoNTGOMERY.  I  was  born  in  Beacon,  N.  Y. 

Mr.  Stkh'eing.   In  what  year? 

Mr.  M()nt(;()meky.    li)()4.' 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  present  occupation? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  am  a  director. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  a  director  ? 

Mr,  Montgomery.  I  have  been  a  director  for  the  past  2  years  and 
an  actor  for  the  last  20, 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  have  been  in  Hollywood  since  1929. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  3- ou  serve  in  World  War  II  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery,  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  what  branch  of  the  service? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  United  States  Navy. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  any  guild  at  the  present  time  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Yes,  sir;  I  am  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors 
Guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  a  member  of  the  Screen 
Actoi-s  Guild? 

Mr,  Montgomery.  I  have  been  a  member  and  officer  of  the  Screen 
Actors  Guild  since  1933, 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  positions  have  you  held  within  the  guild? 

Mr.  jNIontgomery.  I  have  held  the  position,  Hrst,  of  vice  president 
of  the  guild;  I  have  been  either  a  member  of  the  board  or  the  presi- 
dent of  the  guild  since  1933.  I  have  held  the  position  of  president 
of  the  guild  in  the  years  1935.  1<)36.  and  1937  and  was  reelected  again 
in  1946,  resigning  about  3  months  after  my  election. 

Mr.  Stripling.  During  your  tenure  as  president  of  the  guild  and 
as  a  member  of  tlie  guild  have  you  ever  at  any  time  noted  any  Com- 
munist influences  operating  within  the  guild? 


^04  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Montgomery.  We  liave  had  in  the  Screen  Actors  Guild,  as  have 
other  labor  unions,  a  very  militant,  a  very  small  minority,  well  or- 
ganized, well  disciplined.  Those  people  have  been  active  since  as 
far  back  as  1933. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  that 
group  has  ever  been  successful  in  dominating  the  policy  of  the  guild 
at  any  given  time? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  .  Never  under  any  circumstances. 

Mr,  Stripling.  What  has  been  the  policy  of  the  guild  regarding 
communism  and  fascism  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  think  the  answer  to  that  question  can  be  given 
best,  Mr.  Chairman,  if  you  will  permit  me  to  read  the  resolution  in 
that  regard  issued  by  the  guild  in  1946. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  have  your  permission,  sir  'i 

The  Chairman.  Yes. 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Thank  you.     [Reading:] 

The  Screen  Actors  Guild  feels  that  its  primary  function  is  the  honest  repre- 
sentation of  its  membership  in  a  legal  and  orderly  manner  by  duly  elected 
representatives  in  bringing  about  for  its  members  the  best  possible  working 
conditions,  hours,  and  wage  scales. 

The  Screen  Actors  Guild  feels  that  once  these  working  conditions,  wage 
scales,  and  hours  have  been  established,  it  is  its  duty,  through  its  adminis- 
trative staff,  to  see  to  it  that  the  parties  to  the  contract  iinder  which  these 
conditions  liave  been  agreed  to  adhere  strictly  to  the  conditions  as  set  forth 
in  that  contract. 

In  the  past  the  talent  groups  of  Hollywood  in  particular  and  the  industry  in 
general  have  been  sub.iected  to  attacks  via  the  press,  radio,  and  governmental 
agencies  which  have  been  instrumental  in  leading  the  public  at  largo  to  believe 
that  this  organization  has  otiier  aims  than  those  set  down  above.  The  accusa- 
tions have  been  made  publicly  against  the  talent  groups  that  they  do  not 
honestly  function  as  they  should  in  representing  their  members  and  have 
become  sounding  boards  for  ideologies  inimical  to  the  American  way  of  life. 

Recognizing  that  the  words  "Communist"  and  "Fascist"  have  been  employed 
with  recklessness  and  iri'esponsibility  as  terms  of  opprobrium,  the  Screen  Actors 
Guild  desires  to  make  a  public  statement  and  to  set  forth  the  above  points.  The 
guild  in  addition  states  that  it  has  in  the  past,  does  in  the  present,  and  will  in 
he  fnture  rigorously  oppose  by  every  power  which  is  within  its  legal  rights,  any 
real  Fascist  or  Communist  influence  in  the  motion-picture  industry  or  in  the 
ranks  of  labor. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Montgomery,  you  introiluced  that  reso- 
lution yourself  ? 

Mr.  iVfoNTOOMERY.  Yes.  sir;  I  did. 

INIr.  Stiitpltng.  Did  the  introduction  of  it  create  any  controversy 
within  the  Guild? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  The  resolution  was  introduced  in,  as  I  remember 
it,  February  194G.  The  resolution  was  not  made  public  until  May,  I 
l)elieve,  194G.  I  would  have  to  check  those  dates  but  I  believe  they  are 
approximately  correct — May  or  June  of  1946. 

In  that  period  of  time,  between  those  two  dates,  the  first  two  articles 
of  the  resolution  pertaining  to  the  duties  of  the  guild  appeared  to 
cause  no  discussion  whasoever. 

The  third  article  in  the  resolution  which  came  out  flatfootedly 
against  any  real  Communist  or  Fascist  influence  in  the  ranks  of  labor 
or  in  the  motion-picture  industry  seemed  to  cause — again  from  a  very 
small  minority — a  tremendous  opposition.  Whether  that  opposition 
Avas  Communist  or  not,  I  am  not  qualified  to  state.    I  onh'  know  that 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  205 

the}'-  behaved  exactly  as  left-win^  fjroups  in  various  labor  unions  have 
behaved  in  the  past  and  do  behave  at  present. 

They  attempted  in  every  possible  way  to  cloud  the  issue  of  that  last 
clause  in  the  resolution. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  the  resolution  adopted  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  The  resolution  was  adopted  and  was  issued  pub- 
licly by  the  deleg:ates  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  at  the  California 
State  Labor  Convention  in  194G. 

IVIr.  Stripling.  AVere  any  compromise  or  substitute  resolutions 
offered  duriuf^  this  controversy? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Compromise  resolutions  were  offered,  naturally, 
because  that  appeared  to  be  one  of  the  tactics  of  the  opposition  to  that 
i-esolution.  In  all  the  compromise  resolutions  that  were  offered  the  flat 
statement  that  we  opposed  Communism  or  Fascism  was  strangely 
absent. 

JNIr.  Striplinc;.  Mr.  Montgomery,  as  a  veteran  of  the  Hollywood 
scene  are  you  aware  of  any  Communist  influences  in  other  guilds  in  the 
motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  JNIoNTGOMERY.  I  have  heard  a  great  deal  of  discussion  about  it. 
I  am  not  a  member  of  those  other  guilds  and  I  assume  that  just  as 
in  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  there  are  again  small  active  minorities 
within  those  other  guilds. 

Let  me  make  this  point  perfectly  clear,  with  your  permission.  The 
fact  that  these  minorities  are  tiny  does  not,  to  me,  cliange  the  picture 
as  far  as  their  danger  is  concerned.  They  are  Avell  organized,  they 
are  well  disciplined.  They  appear  at  public  meetings  tremendously 
well  organized  and  with  a  (•om})lete  program  for  the  evening. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  M()ntgomer3%  they  even  appear  at  congres- 
sional hearings,     [Laughter.] 

Mr.  Stripling,  Mr.  Montgomery,  can  you  tell  the  committee 
whether  or  not  in  any  picture  in  wliicli  you  were  an  actor,  or  in  any 
picture  which  you  have  produced,  you  have  ever  been  aware  of  any 
effort  to  inject  Communist  pro])aganda  or  scenes  Avhich  were  unfriendly 
to  the  American  way  into  such  films  or  scripts? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  have  heard  these  people  referred  to  as  the  luna- 
tic fringe,  and  I  quite  agree  with  that  definition.  However,  I  do 
not  think  any  of  them  would  be  crazy  enough  to  try  to  inject  Com- 
munist propaganda  into  a  picture  I  had  anything  to  do  with. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  opinion  regarding  communism? 

Mr.  ]\Iontgomery.  Mr.  Chairman,  in  common  with  millions  of  other 
men  in  this  country  in  19))$)  and  1940  I  gave  up  my  job  to  fight  against 
a  totalitarianism  which  was  called  fascism.  I  am  quite  willing  to 
give  it  up  again  to  fight  against  a  totalitarianism  called  communism. 
[Applause.] 

The  Chairman.  The  audience  is  the  guest  of  this  committee.  This 
is  a  congressional  committee  seeking  the  facts.  We  do  not  care  for 
any  applause. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Montgomery,  there  are  pending  before  this  com- 
mittee at  the  present  time  tAvo  bills  which  seek  to  outlaw  the  Com- 
munist Party.  The  committee  has  asked  a  number  of  i:)eople  who  are 
prominent  in  the  motion-picture  industry  and  Avho  have  appeared 
here  their  opinion  as  to  whether  the  outlawing  of  the  Communist 

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206  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Paj'ty  Avoiild  serve  to  rid  Iloll^ywood.  shall  we  say,  of  Communist 
influence.  Naturally  the  Communists  are  entrenched  in  labor  and 
many  other  fields,  but  as  far  as  Hollywood  is  concerned  do  you  think 
the  Communist  Party  should  be  outlawed'^ 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  do  not  think  I  am  qualified  to 
answer  that  question  in  this  respect:  There  are  governmental  agen- 
cies who,  I  am  sure,  have  a  tremendous  amount  of  evidence  regarding 
the  Communist  Party  and  its  activities  in  this  country.  Those  govern- 
mental agencies,  I  feel,  and  the  Congress  of  the  IJnitefl  States,  are 
a  great  deal  more  qualified  to  decide  as  to  whether  the  Communist 
Party  should  be  outlawed  as  a  political  party  in  this  country,  or  not. 

If  you  are  asking  my  personal  opinion  I  do  not  believe  it  is  a 
political  party. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  What  do  you  consider  it  to  be,  Mr.  Montgomery? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  consider  it  a  subversive  group  just  as  I  con- 
sidered the  German-American  Bund  a  subversive  group. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  consider  it  to  be  in  fact  the  agent  of  a  foreign 
government  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  That  again  is  a  question  of  one's  qualifications 
to  make  that  decision.  I  assume  from  their  behavior  that  they  are 
and  it  has  been  testified  to  before  this  committee  that  they  are. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood? 

Mr.  Wood.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon? 

Mr.  Nixon.  Mr.  Montgomery,  you  indicated  that  at  the  time  this 
resolution  was  introduced  there  was  great  opposition  from  this  small 
minority.  The  point  I  am  interested  in  is  this :  You  said  they  behaved 
as  all  left-wing  groups  behaved.  Would  you  indicate  very  briefly  to 
the  committee  some  of  the  elements  of  behavior  which  in  your  opinion 
follow  that  line? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Yes,  sir.  The  confusion  of  the  issue  by  long  and 
protracted  discussion  is  one  of  the  maneuvers  used  by  these  people.  I 
am  afraid  this  sounds  a  little  melodramatic,  but  character  assassins 
of  the  proponents  of  the  issue  was  another  one. 

Mr.  Nixon.  Long  and  protracted  discussion  and  character  assassins 
were  tw^o  of  them  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Long  and  protracted  discussion,  let  me  say,  with 
the  aim  in  view  of  simpl.y  clouding  the  original  issue  of  the  reso- 
lution. 

]\Ir.  Nixon.  And  not  for  the  purpose  of  reaching  a  decision  on  the 
matter  at  hand  ? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  No,  sir;  definitely  not. 

Mr.  Nixon.  But  for  the  purpose  of  avoiding.a  decision  on  the  matter 
on  which  they  wanted  no  decision  made? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Yes,  sir;  exactly. 

Mr.  Nixon.  I  might  say,  Mr.  Montgomery,  des]nte  the  fact  that 
during  the  course  of  this  hearing,  as  the  chairman  has  indicated,  no 
applause  can  be  allowed  from  the  audience,  I  think  I  speak  for  the 
members  of  the  committee  and  for  the  members  of  the  audience  in  say- 
ing (hat  although  we  may  not  openly  express  our  approval  we  certainly 
wish  to  indicate  to  you  it  is  very  encouraging  to  find  a  nuin  in  your 


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position  who  has,  throughout  the  United  States,  a  great  deal  of  re- 
spect among  a  great  number  of  people  for  what  you  have  done  on  the 
screen,  so  well  able  to  express  yourself  articulately,  intelligently,  and 
fairly  on  a  matter  whicli  is  of  great  interest  to  this  country  at  the 
present  time. 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Thank  you,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell? 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Montgomery,  have  you  been  smeared  as  every 
other  person  has  who  has  attacked  communism? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Yes,  sir ;  I  have. 

Mr.  McDowell.  They  have  called  you,  I  presume,  a  Fascist,  a 
stooge  of  your  producer,  and  all  that  sort  of  thing? 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Yes,  sir;  that  is  true.  It  does  not  bother  me 
very  much,  quite  frankly. 

Mr.  McDowell.  That  is  very  obvious.  It  is  good  to  have  you  here. 
You  are  as  good  a  citizen  as  you  are  an  actor,  and  that  is  tops. 

Mr.  JNIontgomery.  Thank  you,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  j^ou  very  much.  Do  you  have  any  more 
questions,  Mr.  Stripling? 

Mr.  Stripling.  No,  sir,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Montgomery.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  have  your  permission  to 
make  one  statement? 

The  Chairman.  Yes;  proceed. 

Mr.  Montgomery.  I  have  been  watching  and  hearing  via  the  press 
and  radio  the  procedure  here  in  this  committee.  I  would  like  to  ask 
the  chairman's  permission  to  correct  one  impression  which  I  am  sure 
is  being  unintentionally  given  by  virtue  of  the  reporting  of  these 
hearings. 

I  am  sure,  as  I  say,  this  impression  is  unintentional. 

The  general  impression  as  we  came  across  the  country  to  these  hear- 
ings was  that  there  was  a  small  minority  within  Hollywood  fighting 
communism  and  fascism.  This  is  exactly  the  reverse  of  the  true  pic- 
ture. There  is  a  small  minority  in  Hollywood  wdio  might  be  inter- 
ested in  fascism  or  communism  and  I  do  not  think  that  we  who  have 
worked  in  this  industry  for  a  period  of  almost  20  years,  some  of  us, 
have  any  right  to  testify  before  this  committee  without  saying  that  we 
are  proud  to  be  members  of  this  industry. 

Thank  you  very  nuich. 

Tlie  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Montgomery,  for  com- 
ing here  today .^* 
(Witness  excused.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  Mr.  George 
Murphy. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  George  Murphy. 

Mr.  Muri)hy.  do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about 
to  give  is  tlie  tVuth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  do,  so  help  me  God. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

^  See  appendix,  p.  n?,!,  for  exhibit  47. 


208  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

TESTIMONY  OF  GEORGE  L.  MURPHY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Murphy,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  pres- 
ent address,  please? 

Mr.  Murphy.  George  L.  Murphy,  911  North  Bedford  Drive,  Bev- 
erly Hills,  Calif. 

Mv.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  vou  born,  Mr.  Murphy? 

Mr.  Murphy.  New  Haven,  Conn.,  July  4,  1902. 

Mr.  Stripling.  AVhat  is  your  present  occupation? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Actor-dancer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  questions  of  Mr.  Murphy  will 
be  asked  by  Mr.  Smith. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  agreeable.    Mr.  Smith. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Murph}^,  how  long  have  you  been  connected  with 
the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  have  been  employed  in  the  motion-picture  industry 
a  little  over  12  years. 

Mr.  Smith.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild? 

Mr.  JMuRPHY.  I  am  and  have  been  a  member  for  about  10  years. 

Mr.  Smith.  What  offices  have  you  held  in  the  guild  and  do  you 
presently  hold  an  office  ? 

Mr.  Murphy.  At  present  I  am  a  third  vice  president.  Previous  to 
that  I  was  president  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  for  two  terms  and  for 
the  last  6  years  I  have  served  as  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors  of 
the  Screen  Actors  Guild. 

Mr,  Smith.  Mr.  INIurphy,  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  any  group 
or  organization  that  you  would  consider  subversive? 

Mr.  JNIuRPHY.  No ;  I  have  not. 

Mr.  Smith.  Were  any  attempts  ever  made  to  get  you  to  join  any 
subversive  group? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Well,  when  I  was  first  made  a  member  of  the  Screen 
Actors  Guild  board  I  strangely  received  the  Daily  Worker  every  day 
for  a  year,  for  which  I  did  not  pay,  because  I  had  not  ordered  it. 

I  have  been  invited  to  attend  many  meetings.  I  have  been  asked  to 
donate  funds  to  many  causes.  Possibly  being  of  a  suspicious  nature 
1  like  to  make  sure  where  my  charity  funds  go  and  I  like  to  make  sure 
of  what  is  actually  the  purpose  of  the  meeting  I  attend,  so  that  I  have 
not  attended  any  of  those  meetings,  to  my  knowledge,  nor  have  I 
donated  money  to  any  of  those  funds. 

Mr.  Smith.  Have  you  ever  joined  any  anti-Communist  groups? 

Mr.  MuRPiiY.  No ;  I  have  not  as  such.  I  am  a  member  of  the  Screen 
Actors  Guild  and  as  you  have  just  heard  ]Mr.  IMontgomery  read  into 
the  record  we  have  a  resolution  that  is  anti-Communist  and  anti- Fascist 
so  you  might  call  us  an  anti-Communist,  anti-Fascist  group. 

I  am  also  chairman  of  a  political  group  lately  formed  in  Hollywood. 
Among  the  things  it  hopes  to  do  is  fight  against  communism  and 
fascism. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Murphy,  were  you  president  of  the  Screen  Actors 
Guild  when  the  strike  started? 
Mr.  Murphy.  Yes ;  I  was. 
Mr.  Smith.  What  action  did  you  take? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Well,  immediately  when  the  strike  started  the  Screen 
Actors  Guild  foi-med  a  committee  that  met  with  the  committee  of  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild  and  the  Screen  Directors  Guild  in  the  hope  that 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  209 

we  could,  as  disinterested  parties,  find  some  means  whereby  the  men 
could  remain  at  work  while  the  argument  went  on  or  until  the  strike 
was  settled.  We  met  once.  There  was  a  suggestion  made  as  to  how 
to  proceed.  I  suggested  we  get  the  three  parties  to  agree  to  abide  by 
the  decision  of  a  proper  governmental  agency,  which  at  that  time 
would  be  the  NLE.B,  since  it  was  a  jurisdictional  strike. 

This  was  agreed  upon.  We  first  called  Mr.  Edward  Mannix,  who 
was  then  an  officer  with  the  Producers  Association,  He  said  he  would 
agree  to  sign  or  would  say  publicly  that  they  would  abide  by  the 
decision  of  such  a  proper  governmental  agency. 

The  second  party  called  was  one  of  the  members  of  the  striking 
unions.  He  told  us  in  no  uncertain  terms  his  boys  were  out  on  strike 
and  they  would  stay  there  for  7  years  if  necessary  until  a  lot  of  things 
he  was  dissatisfied  wath  in  Hollyw^ood  got  straightened  out. 

It  was  quite  obvious  we  were  going  to  accomplish  nothing.  Here 
was  a  man  who  had  his  neck  bowed,  who  was  mad,  and  w^as  not  in- 
terested in  settling  the  strike. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Muprhy,  did  this  plan  meet  wdth  any  success? 

Mr.  Murphy.  No  success  whatever.  As  I  say,  the  committee  met 
this  once  and  it  was  quite  obvious  that  we  were  not  going  to  accomplish 
anything.  When  you  are  not  accomplishing  anything  I  think  it  is  a 
little  silly  to  continue  to  hold  meetings. 

Mr.  Smith.  Did  you  take  any  further  action  ? 

Mr.  ]\IuRPHY.  Yes.  With  respect  to  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  I 
wanted  to  make  sure  of  the  feelings  and  the  views  of  our  membership. 
1  think  this  will  be  of  interest  to  the  committee  because  it  will  pretty 
well  show  the  actual  number  of  Communists  or  Communist  sympa- 
thizers or  people  who  have  been  misled  by  the  Communists. 

I  hope  the  committee  realizes  that  in  Hollywood  as  in  every  other 
part  of  the  country  there  are  an  awful  lot  of  good,  honest,  liberal 
people  who  are  being  used  by  the  Communists  and  wdio  are  sometimes 
sucked  into  these  things. 

We  called  a  mass  meeting  of  the  membership.  We  invited  Mr.  Her- 
bert Sorrell,  who  is  the  head  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions, 
and  Mr.  Richard  Maltz,  who  is  the  president  of  the  lATSC,  We  gave 
them  each  a  half  hour  to  state  their  case  before  our  membership  and 
then  sent  out  a  secret  ballot  to  the  membership  to  find  out  their  exact 
wishes  in  the  matter. 

The  important  fact,  I  think,  is  that  the  ballots  came  back  97.3  per- 
cent not  to  join  the  strike.  Based  on  that  figure  I  w^ould  say  we  could 
safely  put  the  figure  of  active  Communists  at  below  1  percent  in  the 
Screen  Actors  Guild,  because  I  assume,  as  is  generally  the  case  with 
those  people,  all  of  their  people  voted  and  some  of  ours  ma}?^  not  have. 

Mr.  Smith.  Did  the  other  guilds  or  unions  take  such  a  vote,  to  your 
knowledge? 

Mr.  IVIuRPHY.  As  far  as  I  know  there  was  only  one  other  union  that 
took  a  secret  ballot  on  the  strike.  I  think  that  was  the  Screen  Office 
Employees  Guild.  A  strange  thing  happened  with  regard  to  it. 
The  ballot  w\as  taken  and  T  believe  the  tabulation  was  some  900  to  600 
not  to  join  the  strike,  but  they  were  ordered  to  join  the  strike  in  spite 
of  that  under  the  threat  they  would  lose  their  charter.  Their  charter 
was  from  the  painters'  union. 

Mr.  Smith.  Were  there  any  attempts  from  within  the  Screen  Actors 
Guild  to  change  the  guild's  policy? 


210  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Murphy.  Yes;  there  was  some  disagreement,  not  very  much. 
It  did  not  amount  to  very  much.  Some  people  thought,  and  there 
was  a  great  campaign  put  on,  to  the  effect  that  we  were  crossing  picket 
lines  where  brother  unionists  were  out  on  strike.  There  Avere  tlirow- 
awa^ys  which  called  Mr.  Arnold,  Mr.  Reagan,  and  myself  scabs.  Ac- 
tually we  felt  we  were  not  going  to  work  to  take  another  man's  job, 
which  is  Avhat  a  "scab"  is,  I  believe. 

As  to  the  people  who  took  that  position,  I  think  some  of  them  did 
it  sincerely.  I  believe,  however,  there  may  have  been  a  few  who  were 
taking  advantage  of  the  situation,  if  possible,  to  create  greater  turmoil 
within  the  industry. 

Mr.  Smith.  Was  there  any  direct  action  taken  by  this  minority 
group  ? 

Mr.  MunpHT.  Well,  one  thing  that  happened  at  one  of  the  later  mass 
meetings.  Late  in  the  meeting  there  Avas  a  proposal  from  the  floor,. 
a  resolution,  and  as  I  heard  it' read  from  the  floor  it  occurred  to  me 
that,  although  it  was  very  wordy  and  seemed  a  little  ambiguous,  that 
it  could  be  construed  to  put  us  right  in  the  middle  of  the  strike,  a 
position  that  had  been  directly  opposed  by  the  vote  of  our  membership. 
On  that  basis  I  declared  the  resolution  out  of  order.  This  was  quite 
late  in  the  meeting.  As  I  remember,  directly  that  I  declared  it  out  of 
order,  this  meeting  was  adjourned. 

I  think  at  this  time  possibly  40  percent  of  the  members  who  had 
attended  the  meeting  had  gone  home.  It  is  a  little  difficult  in  Holly- 
wood to  hold  meetings.  The  actors  who  are  Avorking,  as  most  of  you 
know,  and  the  ladies,  particularly,  have  to  get  up  at  5 :  30  or  6  o'clock 
in  the  morning,  and  even  a  lazy  fellow  like  myself,  I  haA^e  to  be  up 
at  7  o'clock.  So  they  are  inclinecl  to  leaAC  meetings  early.  And,  in  fact, 
they  are  a  little  hard  to  get  to  meetings — I  guess  like  most  Americans. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  know  who  proposed  this  resolution? 

Mr.  Mup.PHT.  I  do  not.  As  I  say,  it  was  late  in  the  meeting,  it  came 
from  the  back  of  the  floor,  and  the  proponent  did  not  announce  her 
name.    It  was  a  lady.  I  know  that. 

Mr.  Smith.  As  an  officer  and  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild 
for  a  number  of  years,  to  what  extent  has  communism  infiltrated  into 
the  Screen  Actors  Guild,  in  your  opinion  ? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Well,  in  mj^  opinion,  there  has  been  a  constant  irrita- 
tion from  a  very  small  group.  The  group  is  constantly  changing.  I 
think  that  some  of  the  members  of  the  group  haA^e  been  led  to  believe 
that  certain  things  are  true  that  are  not  true.  We  haA^e  had  experi- 
ence with  some  of  them  that  come  up  to  the  guild  office,  and  after 
asking  a  few  questions  and  seeing  the  records  and  documents  haA^e 
decided  that  they  have  been  misled,  that  they  have  taken  an  erroneous 
position  on  certain  things.  I  don't  think  actually,  numerically,  as  I 
said  before,  I  don't  think  that  they  amount  to  1  percent  of  the  guild 
membership. 

Mr.  Smith.  Noav,  you  heard  Mr.  Montgomery's  testimony  regarding 
the  resolution  that  was  adopted,  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  did. 

Mr.  Smith.  As  to  fascism  and  communism.  You  were  there.  I 
believe  you  were  chairman  of  that  particular  meeting;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Yes,  I  was ;  I  was  present. 

Mr.  Smith.  To  the  best  of  your  recollection,  was  his  testimony  cor- 
rect regarding  this  resolution  ? 


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Mr.  Murphy.  Absolutely  correct. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  recall  any  other  instances  where  the  guild  has 
taken  action  to  combat  communism? 

Mr.  MuRPPiY.  Well,  one  thing  occurred  to  me.  While  I  was  presi- 
dent of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  the  bylaws  provided  that  15  percent 
of  the  membership  present  at  any  meeting  would  constitute  a  quorum; 
a  quorum  making  it  possible  for  15  percent  to  conduct  business  and 
to  decide  on  policy  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild.  I  am  a  very  bad 
mathematician,  but  it  occurred  to  me  that  a  half  of  15  percent  was 
71/^  percent;  71/2  percent  plus  one  vote  could  decide  the  future  policy 
of  the  guild.  It  seemed  to  me  that  this  was  a  very  undemocratic  proc- 
ess. There  was  some  argument  made  that  if  people  didn't  have  the 
interest  enough  in  their  organization  to  attend  meetings  that  they 
shouldn't  have  a  right  to  decide  policy.  I,  along  with  many  others 
on  the  board,  took  the  position  that  as  long  as  they  were  members 
in  good  standing,  whether  they  attended  meetings  or  not,  for  what- 
ever meeting,  that  they  had  the  same  rights  in  the  organization  in 
deciding  policy. 

From  this  discussion  the  bylaws  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  were 
changed  so  that  at  the  present  time  any  matter  of  importance  or  any 
matter  that  pertains  to  the  policy  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  and  the 
affairs  of  the  general  membership  there  is  sent  by  mail  a  ballot  on  it 
to  every  member  in  good  standing  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild. 

Mr.  Smith.  Leaving  aside  for  the  moment  the  Screen  Actors  Guild, 
do  you  feel  there  is  any  communism  in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr,  Murphy.  Yes;  I  think  there  is  communism  in  the  motion-pic- 
ture industry — as  there  is  in  practically  every  other  industry  in  our 
Nation  today.  I  think  that  the  screen  has  been  very  successful  in 
keeping  any  attempts  to  propagandize  off  the  screen.  As  I  say,  I 
am  an  actor.  I  am  not  as  conversant  as  some  others  who  have  testiiEied, 
with  regard  to  the  problems  of  the  writers  and  producers  and  directors. 
I  am  handed  a  script.  Once  in  a  while  I  try  to  change  a  line  or  two 
or  a  word  or  two,  and  maybe  add  a  dance  step,  but  that  is  about  the 
extent  of  my  business. 

However,  I  think  there  has  been  definite  evidence  that  there  are 
Communists  at  work  in  the  picture  industry  and  it  seems  to  me  that 
it  would  be  absolutely  consistent  with  the  policy,  that  being  such  a 
means  of  communication,  I  think  that  they  probably  would  be  very 
anxious  to  be  at  work  in  the  picture  industry. 

Mr.  Smith.  Have  you  ever  been  called  upon  to  give  lines  in  a  picture 
which  you  felt  were  communistic  ? 

Mr.  Murphy.  No ;  I  have  not. 

Mr.  Smith.  Supposing  you  were  called  upon  to  give  such  lines,  what 
would  be  your  position? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  am  afraid,  as  they  sav  in  the  theater,  T  would  dry 
up,  I  wouldn't  read  the  lines,  nor  would  T  play  the  part  if  I  considered 
the  part  to  be  one  that  spread  Communist  propaganda. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  feel  that  if  things  continue  as  they  are  the  Com- 
munists might  gain  enough  strength  to  control  the  industi-y? 

Mr.  Murphy.  There  is  much  discussion  about  Communist  propa- 
ganda. -  T  think  all  who  read  the  newspapers  and  the  columns  realize 
that  the  Communist  Partv  in  the  past  has  appeared  to  be  in  no  par- 
ticular hurry  about  achieving  its  ends.  I  think  to  look  for  direct  Com- 
munist propaganda  in  pictures  at  this  particular  moment  might  be  a 


212  COMMUNISM   IX    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTKY 

mistake.  I  think  we  should  be  well  on  our  guard  that  the  infiltration 
maybe  is  taking  place  at  this  time  so  that  after  the  infiltration  has 
reached  a  saturation  point  later  on  the  screen  may  be  used  in  a  man- 
ner inimical  to  the  best  mterests  of  our  country. 

Mr,  Smith.  Do  you  believe  the  Communist  Party  is  an  agency  of  a 
foreign  enemy? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  have  no  way  of  proving  this,  but  from  the  reading 
that  I  have  done,  and  listening  to  the  radio,  I  believe  that  the  Com- 
munist Party  members  are  agents  of  a  foreign  country. 

Mr.  Smith.  As  stated  to  Mr.  Montgomery  by  Mr.  Stripling,  there 
are  two  bills  presently  pending  before  this  committee  in  regard  to  the 
Communist  Party.  What  is  your  thought  as  to  what  action  should  be 
taken  on  those  bills? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  think  if  the  Government  of  the  United  States  de- 
cides that  the  Communist  Party  is  taking  orders  from  a  foreign  gov- 
ernment, and  its  members  are  acting  as  agents  of  a  foreign  gov- 
ernment, I  think  they  should  be  so  labeled,  and  I  don't  think  that  an 
agent  of  a  foreign  government  should  be  allowed  to  hide  under  the 
guise  that  he  is  a  member  of  a  legal  American  political  party.  I  think 
the  differentiation  between  the  political  party  and  the  actual  condi- 
tion should  be  brought  home  to  the  American  public. 

No.  2,  I  think  there  are  agencies  of  the  United  States  Government 
which  have  much  more  proof,  a  great  many  more  facts  than  we  have. 
I  think  if  the  information  obtained  by  those  agencies  were  made  pub- 
lic to  the  people,  I  think  that  the  great  American  public  would  tell 
the  Congress  of  the  United  States  very  quickly  and  without  question 
what  action  they  think  should  be  taken. 

With  regard  to  the  motion-picture  industry,  I  would  wish  that 
there  would  be  some  attempt,  and  I  know  in  the  past  there  have  been 
attempts,  to  maybe  tell  the  American  story  truly  in  foreign  countries, 
and  I  think  that  there  is  no  better  way  to  tell  this  story  than  through 
the  motion  picture.  I  am  certain  from  conversations  that  I  have  had 
with  the  leaders  of  the  industry  that  they  would  be  terribly  anxious 
to  cooperate  in  any  way.  For  instance,  with  a  program  that  might 
possibly  be  set  up  with  the  State  Department  in  telling  the  actual 
American  story  and  combating  such  un-American  propaganda  as 
greeted  me  this  morning  wdien  I  found  in  the  newspaper  under  my 
door  at  the  hotel  something  to  the  effect  that  the  Russian  Government 
orders  that  all  Communists  should  immediately  go  to  work  on  the 
Marshall  plan  and  see  if  they  can't  break  that  up. 

The  Chairman.  Along  that  same  line,  don't  you  think  it  also 
advisable  that  the  moving-picture  industry  produce  some  pictures 
to  be  shown  in  the  United  States  showing  the  dangers  of  com- 
m-unism  here? 

Mr.  Murphy.  I  think  that  might  be  very  helpful ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Have  you  been  smeared  too,  Mr.  Murphy? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Well,  during  the  strike  there  was  a  routine  of  hand- 
ing out  throw-aways  around  the  studios  and  around  town  every  day 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTUEE   INDUSTRY  213 

and  they  made  up  three  characters  that  were  known  as  Ronnie,  Eddie, 
and  George— Ronald  Reagan,  Eddie  Arnold,  and  George  Murphy. 
We  were  on  the  committee  that  had  gone  back  to  Chicago  during  the 
strike,  you  see,  and  we  were  smeared,  we  were  called  "producers'  men." 

Mr.  McDowell.  Stooges? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Stooges,  yes.  And  I  think  the  proof  of  whether  we 
were  stooges  or  not  is  evidenced  by  the  contract  that  the  Screen  Actors 
(iuild  concluded,  which  is  the  best  ever  concluded  with  the  pro- 
ducers, and  I  think  one  of  the  best  labor  contracts  ever  written. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  have  been  called  a  Fascist,  no  doubt? 

Mr.  Murphy.  Yes;  I  have  been  called  a  Fascist,  but  I  don't  pay 
an  awful  lot  of  attention  to  that.  I  think  maybe  the  time  has  come 
when  anybody  who  disagrees  with  a  Communist  is  a  Fascist — and  I 
certainly  disagree  with  a  Communist. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  you  have  been  a  good  witness.  It  is  very 
fortunate  for  the  American  film  industry,  producers,  actors,  workers, 
painters,  everybody  else,  that  there  has  been  a  group  of  you  fellows 
out  there,  men  and  women,  who  have  had  the  courage  of  your  con- 
victions, and  have  stood  up  and  fought.     Yon  have  done  a  fine  job. 

Mr.  Murphy.  If  I  may  say  so,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  had  more  than 
the  courage  of  our  convictions.  We  had  what  we  knew  to  be  the 
backing  of  the  great  majority  of  our  membership,  and  when  you  are 
carrying  out  what  you  know  to  be  the  will  of  the  people  which  you  are 
representing  you  clon't  have  much  hesitancy  ancl  your  way  is  pretty 
clear. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Nixon. 

Mr.  Nixon.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much.  It  was  very  fine  of  you  to 
come  here  today.'^ 

The  next  witness. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Ronald  Reagan. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are 
about  to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  anc(  nothing  but  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  So  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  RONALD  REAGAN 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Reagan,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name 
and  present  address? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Ronald  Reagan,  9137  Cordell  Drive,  Los  Angeles  46, 
Calif.  ^  ^  y 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Reagan? 
Mr.  Reagan.  Tampico,  111.,  February  6,  1911. 
Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  present  occupation  ? 
Mr.  Reagan.  Motion-picture  actor. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  engaged  in  that  profession? 
Mr.  Reagan.  Since  June  1937  with  a  brief  interlude  of  31/2  years — 
that  at  the  time  didn't  seem  very  brief. 

•^  See  appendix,  p.  S.il.  for  exhibit  48. 


214  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Striplixo.  What  period  was  tluit? 

Mr.  Reagan.  That  was  duriiijij  tlie  late  war. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  branch  of  the  service  were  you  in  ? 

Mr.  Keagan.  Well,  sir,  I  had  been  for  several  years  in  the  Reserve 
as  an  ofiicer  in  the  United  States  Cavalry,  but  I  was  assigned  to  the 
Air  Corps. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  kind  of  typical  of  the  Army,  isn't  it? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Yes,  sir.  The  first  thing  the  Air  Corps  did  was  loan 
me  to  the  Signal  Corps. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  didn't  wear  spurs? 

Mr.  Reagan.  I  did  for  a  short  while. 

The  Chairman.  I  think  this  has  little  to  do  with  the  facts  we  are 
seeking ;  proceed. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Reagan,  are  you  a  member  of  any  gTiild? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Yes,  sir;  the  Screen  Actors  Guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  liave  you  been  a  member  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Since  June  1937. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  the  president  of  the  guild  at  the  present 
time  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  were  you  elected  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  That  was  several  months  ago.  I  was  elected  to  replace 
Mr.  Montgomery  when  he  resigned. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  does  your  term  expire  ? 

Mr.  Reagan.  The  elections  come  up  next  month. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  held  any  other  position  in  the  Screen 
Actors  Guild? 

Mr.  ReaGx\n.  Yes,  sir.  Just  prior  to  the  war  I  was  a  member  of 
the  board  of  directors,  and  just  after  the  war,  prior  to  my  being  elected 
president,  I  was  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors, 

Mr.  Stripling.  As  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors,  as  president 
of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild,  and  as  an  active  member,  have  you  at  any 
time  observed  or  noted  within  the  organization  a  clique  of  either  Com- 
munists or  Fascists  who  were  attempting  to  exert  influence  or  pressure 
on  the  guild? 

Mr.  Reagan.  Well,  sir,  my  testimony  must  be  very  similar  to  that 
of  Mr.  Murphy  and  Mr.  Montgomery.  There  has  been  a  small  group 
within  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  which  has  consistently  opposed  the 
policy  of  the  guild  board  and  officers  of  the  guild,  as  evidenced  by  the 
vote  on  various  issues.  That  small  clique  referred  to  has  been  suspected 
of  more  or  less  following  the  tactics  that  w^e  associate  with  the  Com- 
munist Part3^ 

Mr.  Stripling.  Woidd  v'.\2,  for  exliibit  49. 


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Mr.  Cooper.  I  do. 

Tlie  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  GARY  COOPER 

Mr.  Stkiplixg.  Mr.  Cooper,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address,  please  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  M}^  name  is  Gary  Cooper;  I  live  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Cooper? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  was  born  in  Helena,  Mont.,  in  19(J1. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  present  occupation  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  An  actor. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Cooper,  you  are  here  in  response  to  a  subpena 
which  was  served  upon  you  on  September  2G;  are  you  not?  ^^ 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes;  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  interrogation  of  Mr.  Cooper  will 
be  done  by  JNIr.  Smith. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Smith.    We  will  have  more  order,  please. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Cooper,  how  long  have  you  been  an  actor? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  huve  been  an  actor  since  1925. 

Mr.  S-MiTH.  And  how  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Since  1924. 

^Ir.  Smith.  I  believe  you  made  many  pictures,  some  of  which  pic- 
tures are  Unconquered,  Pride  of  the  Yankees,  Saratoga  Trunk,  Mr. 
Deeds  Goes  to  Town,  and  you  are  presently  making  Good  Sam;  is  that 
correct  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Smith  and  Mr.  Cooper,  will  you  please  speak 
up? 

Mr.  Smith.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Smith.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Actors  Guild? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes;  I  have  been  a  member  since  the  guild  was  or- 
ganized. 

Mr.  Smith.  During  the  time  that  you  have  been  in  Hollywood,  have 
you  ever  observed  any  conmiunistic  influence  in  Hollywood  or  in  the 
motion-picture  industry  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  believe  I  have  noticed  some. 

Mr.  Smith.  What  do  you  believe  the  principal  medium  is  that  they 
use  Hollywood  or  the  industry  to  inject  propaganda? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  believe  it  is  done  through  word  of  mouth 

The  Chairman.  Will  you  speak  louder,  please,  Mr,  Cooper? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  believe  it  is  done  through  word  of  mouth  and  through 
the  medium  of  pami)hleting — and  writers,  I  suppose. 

Mr.  Smith.  By  word  of  mouth,  what  do  you  mean,  Mr.  Cooper? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  mean  sort  of  social  gatherings. 

Mr.  S-AiiTii.  That  has  been  your  observation? 

Mr.  Cooper.  That  has  been  my  only  observation;  yes. 

Mr.  Smith.  Can  you  tell  us  some  of  the  statements  that  you  may 
have  heard  at  these  gatherings  that  you  believe  are  communistic? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  have  heard  quite  a  few,  I  think,  from  time  to 
time  over  the  years.  Well,  I  have  heard  tossed  around  such  state- 
s' See  appendix,  p.  5:^2.  for  exhibit  ~>0. 


220  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

meiits  as,  "Don't  you  think  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  is 
about  150  years  out  of  date?"  and — oh,  I  don't  know — I  have  heard 
people  mention  that,  well,  "Perhaps  this  would  be  a  more  efficient 
Government  without  a  Congress" — which  statements  I  think  are  very 
un-American. 

Mr.  Smith.  Have  you  ever  observed  any  communistic  information 
in  any  scripts  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  have  turned  down  (|uite  a  few  scripts  because 
I  thought  they  were  tinged  with  communistic  ideas. 
Mr.  Smith.  Can  you  name  any  of  those  scripts? 
Mr.  Cooper.  No;  I  can't  recall  any  of  those  scripts  to  mind. 

Mr.  Smith.  Can  you  tell  us 

Mr.  Cooper.  The  titles. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  Mr.  Cooper,  you  haven't  got  that 
bad  a  memoiy. 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  beg  your  pardon,  sir? 

The  Chairman.  I  say,  you  haven't  got  that  bad  a  memory,  have 
you  ?  You  must  be  able  to  remember  some  of  those  scripts  you  turned 
down  because  you  thought  they  were  Communist  scripts. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  can't  actually  give  you  a  title  to  any  of  them; 
no. 

The  Chairman.  Will  you  think  it  over,  then,  and  supply  the  com- 
mittee with  a  list  of  those  scripts? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  don't  think  I  could,  because  most  of  the  scripts  I  read 
at  night,  and  if  they  don't  look  good  to  me  I  don't  finish  them  or  if  I 
do  finish  them  I  send  them  back  as  soon  as  possible  to  their  author. 

The  Chairman.  I  understand.  I  didn't  understand  you  before. 
Go  ahead. 

Mr.  McDowell,.  That  is  the  custom  of  most  actors,  most  stars,  Mr. 
Cooper  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes,  I  believe  so;  yes  sir.  As  to  the  material,  which  is 
more  important  than  the  name  of  the  script,  I  did  turn  back  one  script 
because  the  leading  character  in  the  play  was  a  man  whose  life's  am- 
bition was  to  organize  an  army  in  the  United  States,  an  army  of  sol- 
diers who  would  never  fight  to  defend  their  country.  I  don't  remem- 
ber any  more  details  of  the  play,  but  that  was  enough  of  a  basic  idea 
for  me  to  send  it  back  quickly  to  its  author. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Cooj^er,  have  you  ever  had  any  personal  experi- 
ence where  you  feel  the  Communist  Party  may  have  attempted  to 
use  3^ou? 

Mr.  Cooper.  They  haven't  attempted  to  use  me,  I  don't  think,  be- 
cause, ai^parently,  they  know  that  I  am  not  very  sympathetic  to  com- 
munism. Several  years  ago,  when  communism  was  more  of  a  social 
chit-chatter  in  parties  for  offices,  and  so  on,  when  communism  didn't 
have  the  implications  that  it  has  now,  discussion  of  communism  was 
more  open  and  I  remember  hearing  statements  from  some  folks  to 
the  effect  that  the  comnnmistic  system  had  a  great  many  features 
that  were  desirable,  (me  of  which  would  be  desirable  to  us  in  the  mo- 
tion-picture business  in  that  it  offered  the  actors  and  artists — in  other 
words,  the  creative  people — a  special  place  in  Government  where  we 
would  be  souiewhat  immune  from  the  ordinary  leveling  of  income. 
And  as  I  remember,  some  actor's  name  was  mentioned  to  me  who  had 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  221 

a  house  in  Moscow  which  was  very  large — he  had  three  cars,  and 
stutf,  with  his  house  being  quite  a  bit  larger  than  my  house  in  Beverly 
Hills  at  the  time — and  it  k)oked  to  me  like  a  pretty  phony  come-on 
to  us  in  the  picture  business.  From  that  time  on,  I  could  never  take 
any  of  this  pinko  mouthing  very  seriously,  because  I  didn't  feel  it  was 
on  the  level. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Chairman,  we  have  several  official  documents  that 
we  have  obtained  through  the  State  Department,  which  I  believe 
clearly  shows  that  the  Communist  Party  attempts  to  use  actors  in- 
dividually througliout  the  world  to  further  their  cause.  With  your 
permission,  I  would  like  to  show  one  of  these  documents  to  Mr.  Cooper 
and  have  him  read  it  to  the  committee. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  would  like  to  have  you  glance  at  this  document,  Mr. 
Cooper,  and  read  to  the  committee  from  this  document. 

Mr.  CoorER.  Ahem 

Mr.  Smith.  Just  one  moment,  please,  Mr.  Cooper.  This  document 
from  which  Mr.  Cooper  is  going  to  read  was  distributed  in  pamphlets 
in  Italy  during  May  of  19-i7.-^« 

Mr.  Cooper.  Shall  I  read  it? 

Mr.  Smith.  By  the  Communist  Party.     Yes,  sir;  go  ahead. 

Mr.  Cooper  (reading)  : 

Gary  Cooper,  who  took  part  in  the  fights  for  the  independence  of  Spain,  held 
a  speech  liefore  a  cro\^(l  of  90,000  in  Phihidelphia  on  the  occasion  of  the  con- 
secration of  the  hanner  of  tlie  Phihidelphia  Communist  Federation. 

Between  other  things,  he  said:  "In  our  days  it  is  the  greatest  lionor  to  be  a 
Communist.  I  wish  the  wliole  world  to  understand  what  we  Communists  really 
are.  There  could  be  nobody  then  who  might  say  that  we  are  enemies  of  man- 
kind and  peace.  Those  who  want  to  discuss  Communist  ideas  should  first  get 
to  know  them.  Americans  learn  this  with  great  difficulty.  Millions  of  people 
from  other  continents  regard  America  as  a  center  of  modern  civilization,  but 
only  we  Americans  can  see  how  false  this  opinion  is.  Let  us  be  frank.  Our 
country  is  a  country  of  gold,  silver,  petrol,  and  great  railways.  But  at  the 
same  time  it  is  a  country  where  Rockefeller,  Ford,  and  Rothschild  use  tear  gas 
against  striking  workers  fighting  for  their  legitimate  rights.  Our  country  is 
the  fatherland  of  Lincoln  and  Roosevelt,  but  at  the  same  time  it  is  a  country 
of  men  like  Senator  Bilbo  and  many  of  his  type.  It  is  a  country  where  redskins 
were  exterminated  by  arms  and  brandy." 

Mr.  Smith.  Have  you  any  comment  on  that,  Mr.  Cooper  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  sir 

The  Chairman.  Excuse  me  a  minute.  Mr.  Smith,  you  say  this 
letter  was  distributed  by  the  Communist  Party  in  Italy  ? 

Mr.  S:mith.  In  May  of  1947,  Mr.  Chairman ;  yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  And  we  got  tlie  letter  from  the  State  Department? 

Mr.  Smith.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Proceed,  Mr.  Cooper. 

Mr.  Smith.  Were  you  ever  in  Philadelphia,  Mr.  Cooper? 

Mr.  Cooper.  No,  sir;  I  was  never  in  Philadelphia. 

Mr.  Smith.  Do  you  have  any  comment  to  make  regarding  this  letter  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  a  90,000  audience  is  a  little  tough  to  disregard, 
but  it  is  not  true. 

Tlie  Chairman.  I  want  to  help  you  along,  Mr.  Cooper — ■ — 

Mr.  Cooper.  No  part  of  it  is  true,  sir. 

^  See  appendix,  p.  532,  for  exhibit  51. 
67G83 — 47 15 


222  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman.  I  happen  to  know  it  is  just  a  plain,  ordinary,  ruth- 
less lie.  We  know  that  for  a  fact.  So  you  don't  have  to  worry  any 
more  about  that. 

Mr.  McDowell.  And  also,  Mr.  Cooper,  in  order  to  get  it  into  the 
record,  don't  you  think  there  wouldn't  be  90,000  people  in  Philadelphia 
who  were  Communists  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  believe  it  was  Mr.  Smith  here  that  said  you 
would  have  a  hard  time  getting  90,000  people  out  in  Philadelphia  for 
anything.     I  don't  know  about  that. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  in  my  possession  another  similar 
document  which  I  believe  should  be  read,  some  portions  of  it  should  be 
read  into  the  record.  It  was  distributed  on  Saturday,  July  19,  1947, 
by  the  Communist  Party  in  Yugoslavia,  in  various  cities  therein,  and 
with  your  permission  I  would  like  to  read  a  few  paragraphs  there- 
from.^^ 

The  Chairman.  AVithout  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Smith  (reading)  : 

In  the  usual  column  on  the  sixth  page  entitled  "Fascist  Shooting  on  Broadway," 
appeared  the  following : 

"In  the  middle  of  June,  in  Hollywood,  Gary  Cooper,  Tyrone  Powei",  and  Alan 
Ladd,  well-known  fihn  stars,  were  imprisoned  because  they  were  marked  as 
leftists  and  denounced  un-Americans,  but  before  that  happened,  something  else 
was  going  on,  about  whicli  the  American  newspaper  agencies  did  not  speak,  and 
that  is  very  characteristic  of  conditions  today  in  tlie  United  States. 

"The  film  actor.  Buster  Crabbe,  lost  his  life  in  a  mysterious  way.  The  back- 
ground of  this  tragic  and  mysterious  death  of  Buster  Crabbe  was  set  forth  by 
the  New  York  paper,  Red  Star.  From  tlie  articles  of  Immy  Stendaph,  we  can 
see  that  Buster  Crabbe  was  very  popular  in  the  United  States.  He  organized  a 
movement  in  the  Army  to  protest  against  the  investigation  of  un-American  activi- 
ties against  Coopei-,  Chaplin,  and  other  film  stars. 

"  The  beginning  of  Buster  Crabbe's  tragedy  was  when  he  found  valuable 
documents,  through  which  documents  he  could  give  light  and  prove  the  criminal 
and  aggressive  plans  of  reactionary  circles  in  America. 

"*  *  *  On  May  31,  Buster  Crabbe  came  to  the  apartment  of  the  well- 
known  film  actor,  Spencer  Tracy,  also  well-known  as  a  leftist  and  they  had  a 
long  talk  in  the  presence  of  Tyrone  Power. 

"*  *  *  On  .Tune  S,  on  Broadway,  on  the  corner  of  Seventh  Avenue,  Crabbe 
was  riddled  with  bullets  from  a  machine  gun  from  a  closed  car.  This  tragic 
death  of  Crabbe,  provoked  terrific  unrest  in  Hollywood.  At  the  funeral  of  Buster 
Crabbe,  150,000  men  were  present,  and  the  coffin  was  carried  by  Comrades  Gary 
Cooper,  Tyrone  Power" 

The  Chairman.  I  don't  think  we  will  have  to  have  any  more  of  that 
letter.  But  what  I  would  like  to  have  you  do,  Mr.  Smith,  is  to  iden- 
tify, clearly  identify  the  source. 

Mr.  Smith.  Yes,  sir;  there  is  just  one  more  paragraph. 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  read  on,  if  you  want  to. 

Mr.  Smith  (reading) : 

This  case  is  very  characteristic  of  the  conditions  which  are  now  prevailing  in 
the  United  States.  This  is  the  method  of  Fascist  liquidation  which  this  country 
of  freedom  and  democracy  is  dealing  with  a  political  opponent.  It  is  quite  possible 
that  tliis  crime  was  counnitted  by  the  KKK  and  Inspired  by  the  elements  who 
were  interested  in  Crabbe's  disappearance — that  he  stop  talking. 

My  point,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  to  show  not  only  in  Hollywood,  but 
throughout  the  world  the  extent  to  which  the  Communist  Party  can 
go  to  use  an  actor  to  further  their  cause.  This  particular  document 
was  distributed  by  the  Communist  Party  in  July  1947  in  Yugoslavia. 

*•  See  appendix,  p.  532,  for  exhibit  52. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  223 

We  have  the  official  copy  from  the  State  Department  for  introduction 
into  the  record. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  you  see  from  that,  Mr.  Cooper,  to  what  extent 
they  will  go. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  So  when  they  used  your  name  in  that  regard  you 
can  almost  consider  it  a  compliment. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  McDowell.  May  I  ask,  Mr.  Chairman,  if  Crabbe  is  living?  Is 
Mr.  Crabbe  living  ? 

Mr.  Smith.  So  far  as  I  know,  he  is  living. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Mr.  Crabbe  is  a  very  healthy  specimen  of  American 
manhood. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chaieman.  Mr.  Wood. 

Mr.  Wood.  I  have  no  further  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  have  no  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Cooper,  witnesses  who  have  preceded  you  from 
Hollywood  have  said  that  they  consider  members  of  the  Communist 
Party  to  be  agents  of  a  foreign  government.  Do  you  consider  the 
members  of  the  Communist  Party  to  be  that  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  am  not  in  nearly  as  good  a  position  to  know  as  some  of 
the  witnesses  that  have  been  ahead  of  me,  because  I  am  not  a  very 
active  member  in  our  guild.  They,  therefore,  know  much  more  about 
the  politics  and  the  workings  of  what  Communists  there  are  in  the 
guild  than  I.  From  the  general,  over-all  things  that  you  hear  in  Holly- 
wood, I  would  assume  that  there  is  such  a  close  parallel  and  I  think 
this  document  whicli  Mr.  Smith  gave  me  is  a  pretty  good  indication 
that  there  is  a  direct  connection  in  the  material  that  comes  from  abroad 
and  the  material  that  is  given  to  them  here. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  that  the  Communist  group  or  clique  m 
Hollywood,  wliether  it  is  in  the  Screen  Actors  Guild  or  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild,  is  a  good  influence  or  bad  influence  for  the  motion 
pictures  generally  ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  to  go  back  to  one  or  two  examples  that  I  quoted 
before,  I  think  it  is  a  very  bad  influence  because  it  is  ver>-  un-Ameri- 
can, i  mean,  it  is  very  shocking  to  hear  someone  with  a  lot  of  money 
say  such  a  thing  as,  "The  Constitution  of  the  United  States  is  150  years 
out  of  date." 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  been  solicited  to  join  the  Communist 
Party  or  any  of  its  fronts,  Mr.  Cooper  'i 

Mr.  Cooper.  No,  I  have  not. 

jVlr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Cooper,  during  the  wartime,  the  moving-pic- 
ture industry  made  anti-Nazi  films.  Don't  you  think  it  would  be  a 
good  idea  if  now  the  moving-picture  industry  produced  anti-Commu- 
nist films  showing  the  dangers  from  communism  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Cooper.  A\'ell,  I  don't  think  it  is  a  bad  idea,  that  the  public 
should  be  informed  of  what  activity  there  is  in  the  motion-picture  busi- 


224  coMMUisrisM  in  motion  picture  industry 

ness  toward  communism.  As  little  or  as  great  as  it  may  be,  I  don't 
think  it  is  a  good  thing.  It  is  not  good  for  those  people  that  even 
believe  in  it.  I  think  some  very  sound — as  I  suggested  before — and 
real  fine  pictures,  more  of  them,  should  be  made  on  selling  what  is 
really  Americanism.  A  great  many  good  pictures  have  been  made,  and 
I  have  tried  to  do  some  of  them,  but  I  think  there  is  great  room  for 
reselling  people  the  idea  of  what  we  have  got  m  this  country,  whi''h  is 
the  finest  thii'g  thei-e  is  in  the  world.  I  know  that  the  great  majority 
of  people  m  Hollywood  and  certainly  the  great  majority  of  people  m 
this  country  would  not  exchange  our  country  or  government  for  any 
other. 

The  Chairman.  Let  me  ask  you  one  more  question.  Do  you  think 
that  communism  is  on  the  increase  or  on  the  decrease  out  in  Holly- 
wood ? 

Mr.  Cooper.  It  is  very  difficult  to  say  right  now,  within  these  last  lew 
months,  because  it  has  become  unpopular  and  a  little  risky  to  say  too 
nuich.  You  notice  the  difference.  People  who  were  quite  easy  to  ex- 
press their  thoughts  before  begni  to  clam  up  more  than  they  used  to. 

The  Chairman.  In  other  words,  some  of  them  are  "getting  re- 
ligion"? 

Mr.  Cooper.  Well,  I  don't  know,  but  they  do  their  discussions  in 
corners,  I  guess,  in  huddles  of  their  own  where  they  are  surrounded 
with  their  own. 

The  Chairman.  Now,  you  heard  about  these  bills  that  are  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee,  bills  to  outlaw  the  Communist 
Party  in  the  United  States,  just  as  the  Communist  Party  is  outlawed 
in  Canada  and  the  Communist  Party  is  outlawed  in  some  South  Amer- 
ican countries. 

Mr.  CooPKR.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  believe  as  a  prominent  person  in  your  field 
that  it  would  be  wise  for  us,  the  Congress,  to  pass  legislation  to  outlaw 
the  Co)umunist  Party  in  the  United  States'^ 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  think  it  would  be  a  good  idea,  although  I  have  never 
read  Karl  Marx  and  I  don't  know  the  basis  of  communism,  beyond 
what  I  have  picked  up  from  hearsay.  From  what  I  hear,  I  don't  like 
it  because  it  isn't  on  the  level.  So  I  couldn't  possibly  answer  that 
question. 

The  Chairman.  Does  any  other  member  have  any  questions? 

(No  response.) 

The  Chairm  \n.  Mr.  Smith,  do  you  have  any  more  questions  ? 

INIr.  Smith.  No. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling? 

Mr.  StriplinCx.  No  more  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Cooper,  thanks  very  much  for  coming  here 
today.     We  hope  we  didn't  put  you  out  too  much. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Not  at  all. 

The  Chatrman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Cooper.  Thank  you. 

The  Chairman.  And,  Mr.  Cooper,  if  you  will  just  stay  over  there, 
or  if  you  want  to  leave.     It  is  up  to  you. 

Mr.  Cooper.  I  would  like  to  wait. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chnirman,  the  next  witness  is  Mr.  Leo  McCarey. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McCarey.     Eaise  your  right  hand,  Mr.  McCarey. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  225 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is  the 
truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 
Mr.  McCarey.  I  do. 
The  Chairman.  Sit  down.     May  we  have  order. 

TESTIMONY  OP  LEO  McCAEEY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  McCarey,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address,  please? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Leo  McCarey,  1018  Ocean  Front,  Santa  Monica, 
Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  was  born  in  Los  Angeles  in  1896. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation,  Mr.  McCarey  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Motion-picture  director. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  a  director? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Since  1923,  I  think. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  held  any  other  positions  in  Hollywood? 
Have  you  been  an  actor  or  writer? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  have  written  a  bit,  and  at  one  time  I  was  vice 
president  of  the  Hal  Roach  Studio. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  are  some  of  the  pictures  which  you  have 
directed  and  produced? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Ruggles  of  Red  Gap,  the  Awful  Truth,  Love  Affair, 
Going  My  Way,  and  the  Bells  of  St.  Marys. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  Going  My  Way  and  the  Bells  of  St.  Marys 
two  of  the  most  popular  pictures  which  you  have  produced  in  recent 
years,  according  to  the  box  office? 

Mr.  McCarey.  According  to  the  box  office,  they  were  both  very 
successful. 

Mr.  Stripling.  They  did  very  well? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  did  they  do  in  Russia? 

Mr.  McCarey.  We  haven't  received  one  ruble  from  Russia  on  either 
picture. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  the  trouble? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Well,  I  think  I  have  a  character  in  there  that  they 
do  not  like. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Bing  Crosby? 

Mr.  McCarey.  No;  God. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Wasn't  Bing  Crosby  the  star  in  both  of  those 
pictures? 

Mr.  McCarey.  He  was  the  star  in  both  pictures;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Since  you  have  been  in  Hollywood,  Mr.  McCarey, 
have  you  noticed  the  activities  of  the  Communists  in  any  particular 
group  there  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Yes.  I  have,  particularly  in  the  writers'  group. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  that  the  principal  medium  through  which  the 
Communists  have  sought  to  inject  their  propaganda  or  un-American 
ideas? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Well,  naturally,  it  is  the  most  efficient  way  to  get 
over  what  they  want  to  say ;  yes.  There  are  several  other  angles,  too, 
in  the  suppression  of  ideas  that  are  pro-American.     Many  a  script 


226  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

never  sees  the  light  of  day  because  it  is  rejected  before  we  ever  get 
to  read  it. 

Also  in  the  casting  of  pictures.  The  dialogue  in  the  script  could  be 
ostensibly  quite  innocuous  but  they  can  cast  a  character  so  repulsive 
\A  hen  you  take  one  look  at  him  you  don't  like  the  man  who  is  portrayed 
as  a  capitalist,  a  banker,  or  whatever  part  he  is  portraying. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  the  Communists  have  been  successful 
in  the  past  10  years  in  injecting  any  propaganda  into  pictures? 

Mr.  McCarey.  They  have  been  successful  in  injecting  propaganda 
but  fortunately  very  few  pictures  with  Communist  propaganda  have 
made  any  money.  They  have  been  quite  unsuccessful,  and  I  am  very 
happy  that  the  American  public  just  does  not  patronize  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  As  a  director,  Mr.  McCarey,  what  do  you  think  the 
dangers  are  of  permitting  pictures  to  be  made  in  which  the  institutions 
in  this  country  are  portrayed  in  a  disparaging  light  ?  In  other  words, 
if  pictures  are  made  which  always  have  the  banker  as  a  heavy,  as  it 
has  been  referred  to  in  the  testimony,  and  that  picture  is  shown  in 
foreign  countries,  Europe,  and  so  on,  what  do  you  think  the  ultimate 
effect  would  be? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Well,  naturally,  it  would  give  a  very  unfavorable 
opinion  of  people  who  are  successful  in  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  that  is  a  dangerous  practice  for  the 
motion  pictures  to  pursue  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  think  it  is  a  very  dangerous  practice. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  the  Communist  influence  in  Hollywood 
has  increased  or  decreased  within  the  past  3  years? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Well,  I  think  it  has  been  increasing  until  recently. 
I  think  it  is  getting  a  bit  unpopular  now. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  had  any  personal  encounter  with  any 
Communist  writers  who  have  sought  to  place  propaganda  in  pictures 
which  you  were  directing? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Yes,  I  have. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  detail  that  instance  to  the  committee? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  have  had  many  experiences  where  ideas  were  sug- 
gested by  myself  and  they  would  throw  cold  water  on  them  if  they 
did  not  agree  with  their  own  policy.  They  were  always  submitting 
books  for  me  to  read  and  I  always  had  to  be  on  the  alert  to  find  the 
latent  Communist  propaganda  in  the  stories  they  had  me  read. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  is  very  subtle,  in  other  words  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  At  times  very  subtle,  yes.  Some  of  them  are  very 
clever. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have  at  this  time,  Mr. 
Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail  ? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell? 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  have  no  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McCarey,  I  would  like  to  ask  you  one  or  two 
questions. 

Mr.  McCarey.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  You  heard  the  testimony  of  the  preceding  witness 
concerning  whether  or  not  we  should  make  anti-Communist  films,  just 
as  we  made  anti-Nazi  films'during  the  war? 

Mr.  McCarey.  Yes,  sir. 


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The  Chairman.  Do  you  believe  the  industry  should  produce  anti- 
Communist  films  in  order  to  show  the  American  people  the  dangers 
and  the  intrigue  of  the  Communist  Party  here  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  IVIcCarey.  Well,  Mr.  Thomas,  that  is  quite  a  question.  I  think 
basically  the  screen — I  like  to  feel  it  is  an  art.  I  don't  think  pictures 
should  be  made  that  have  much  more  than  what  the  medium  stands 
for.  It  is  a  great  art.  Pictures  should  be  entertainment.  I  think 
that  because  of  the  number  of  people  in  all  lands  who  see  our  pictures. 
I  believe  it  only  tends  toward  causing  more  enmity  if  we  are  partisan 
and  take  any  sides  in  our  pictures. 

For  instance,  Mr.  Disney  with  his  Donald  Duck.  Donald  Duck  is 
a  great  hero.  The  Three  Little  Pigs  was  very  successful  and  the 
world  is  trying  to  tell  us  they  w^ant  entertainment  on  the  screen. 

The  Chairman.  In  other  words,  you  believe  we  would  be  doing  the 
same  thing 

Mr.  McCarey.  We  would  bring  on  more  bitterness,  I  think. 

The  Chairman.  We  would  be  doing  the  same  thing  Soviet  Russia 
is  doing  ? 

Mr.  McCarey.  That  is  right. 

The  Chairmax.  The  other  question  is  with  reference  to  outlawing 
the  Communist  Party.  We  have  two  bills  before  our  committee,  either 
one  of  which  if  passed  would  outlaw  the  Communist  Party  in  the 
United  States  just  the  same  as  it  is  outlawed  in  Canada  and  outlawed 
in  some  South  American  countries. 

As  one  of  the  leaders  or  spokesmen  of  your  profession,  spokesman 
for  a  great  many  people,  do  you  believe  the  Congress  should  outlaw 
the  Communist  Party  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  definitely  do  because  I  feel  the  party  is  not  an 
American  party.  I  think  that  within  the  confines  of  the  United  States 
we  can  have  all  the  parties  we  want  and  have  healthy  debate  on  any 
subject  for  the  betterment  of  all  peoples  but  I  don't  think  we  should 
aline  ourselves  with  any  foreign  party. 

The  Chairman.  In  other  words,  you  think  an  American  Communist 
is  the  agent  of  a  foreign  government? 

Mr.  McCarey.  I  definitely  do  and  I  hope  something  is  done  about 
it  because  at  this  time  it  is  a  very  dangerous  thing.  It  seems  like  in 
a  way  some  people  accuse  us  of  being  afraid  of  mentioning  names.  I 
would  be  very  happy  to  mention  names  if  we  had  a  law  with  some 
teeth  in  it  so  that  under  the  heading  of — call  it  what  you  will ;  I  am 
not  a  legislator  and  I  am  not  a  law  maker — but  somewhere  along  the 
line  untler  the  subdivision  of  "Treason,"  subdivision  "D,"  or  some- 
thing like  that,  should  label  these  people  as  truly  un-American. 

The  Chairman.  So  that  if  there  was  a  law  on  the  books  making 
the  Communist  Party  illegal  you  would  not  hesitate  to  name  the  per- 
sons whom  you  know  and  believe  to  be  Communists? 

Mr.  ISIcCarey.  That  is  right. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  have  any  more  questions,  Mr.  Stripling? 

Mr.  Stripling.  No  more  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  McCarey.*° 

We  will  adjourn  until  tomorrow  at  10 :  30  a.  m. 

(Whereupon,  at  2:35  p.  m.,  an  adjournment  was  taken  until  Fri- 
day. October  24, 1947,  at  10 :  30  a.  m.) 

*°  See  appendix,  p.  233,  for  exhibit  53. 


HEAEINGS  EEGAEDING  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTM- 
TION  OF  THE  MOTION-PICTURE-INDUSTKY 


FRIDAY,   OCTOBER  24,    1947 

House  of  Representatives, 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 

Washington,  D.  C. 

The  committee  met  at  10:  30  a.  m.,  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Tliomas  (chair- 
man) presiding. 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order. 

The  record  will  show  that  a'  subcommittee  is  sitting  consisting  of 
Mr.  McDowell  and  Mr.  Thomas. 

Staff  members  present :  Mr.  Robert  E.  Stripling,  chief  investigator, 
Messrs.  Louis  J.  Russell,  Robert  B.  Gaston,  H.  A.  Smith,  investigators, 
and  Mr.  Benjamin  Mandel,  director  of  research. 

Mrs.  Rogers,  will  you  please  stand  and  raise  your  right  hand  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  shall 
give  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so 
help  you  God? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  MRS.  LELA  E.  ROGERS 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mrs.  Rogers,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name 
and  your  present  address  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Lela  E.  Rogers,  5930  Franklin  Avenue,  Hollywood, 
Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Where  were  you  born  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  In  Council  Bluffs,  Iowa. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Wliat  is  your  occupation  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  am  the  manager  of  my  daughter's  affairs  and  a 
writer  of  sorts. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Your  daughter  is  Ginger  Rogers  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  lived  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  entered  the  motion-picture  business  in  Hollywood 
in  1916  as  a  writer.  I  went  away  from  there  for  some  time  and  then 
came  back  again  in  1930  with  my  daughter. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  outline  to  the  committee  the  various 
positions  that  you  have  held  in  the  motion-picture  industry  over  the 
years  ? 

Mr.  Chairman,  ISIrs.  Rogers  testified  before  the  committee  in  May 
in  Los  Angeles  and  she  will  refer  to  her  previous  testimony  to  refresh 
her  memory. 

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Tlie  Chairman.  Yes,  May  I  interrupt  ?  I  want  the  record  to  show 
that  Mr.  Vail  is  present. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Go  right  ahead,  please. 

Mrs.  Rogers.  At  times  I  have  been  a  theatrical  coach.  At  one  time, 
about  1933  to  1935,  I  had  my  own  theater,  the  Hollytown,  in  Holly- 
wood. Then  from  1935  until  1938  I  was  dramatic  coach  at  R-K-0 
Studios  with  ni}'  theater  on  the  lot.  Then  I  went  to  work  at 
R-K-O  Studios  as  assistant  to  the  vice  president  in  charge  of  produc- 
tion, the  late  Charles  Kerner,  in  1943.  My  duties  were  to  help  him  with 
the  enormous  amount  of  reading  it  was  necessary  for  him  to  do  per- 
sonally and  to  report  my  opinion  of  the  properties  under  considera- 
tion for  purchase  and  to  bring  other  properties  to  his  attention  I 
was  also  to  suggest  and  recommend  writers  for  script  work. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  identify  Mr.  Charles  Kerner  for  the  com- 
mittee? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Mr.  Charles  Kerner  was  at  that  time  the  vice  president 
in  charge  of  productions  of  R-K-O  Studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mrs.  Rogers,  are  you  a  member  of  the  Motion  Pic- 
ture Alliance  for  the  Preservation  of  American  Ideals  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  one  of  the  original  members  ? 

Mrs,  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mj".  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  why  this  organization 
was  formed? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  The  organization  was  formed  in  an  attempt  to  combat 
the  threat  and  the  menace  that  we  saw  arising  in  Hollywood,  the  Com- 
munist infiltration  in  Hollywood  in  our  unions  and  the  guilds,  and  in 
our  scripts  and  stories  and  direction  and  all  avenues  and  all  depart- 
ments of  the  motion-picture  industry.  We  felt  that  if  we  could  bring 
this  to  the  attention  of  the  men  in  power,  who  had  the  i^ight  to  hire  and 
fire  these  people,  and  try  to  show  them  what  these  people  were  doing 
to  their  industry,  that  we  could  possibly  save  them  from  what  we  saw 
ahead,  it  would  have  to  come  out  into  the  open  and  be  dealt  with  sum- 
marily as  is  now  being  done, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  the  alliance  has  done  effective  work 
since  its  formation? 

Mrs,  Rogers,  Yes,  sir,  I  feel  that  the  alliance  has  been  right  eflfec- 
tive  in  that  it  has  brought  out  the  menace  so  that  it  could  be  looked  at 
by  other  members  of  the  industry,  so  that  they  would  recognize  it  and 
feel  it,  and  tlien  learn  what  it  was  and  how  it  worked. 

Mr,  Stripling.  At  the  time  of  the  formation  of  the  alliance  is  it 
your  opinion  that  there  was  a  definite  need  for  it  to  combat  the  inroads 
of  communism  within  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  There  was  a  definite  need.  That  so  many  important 
people  in  the  industrv  should  come  together  for  the  one  purpose 

The  Chairman.  Will  you  speak  louder,  please? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  That  so  many  people  of  the  industry  should  come 
together  for  the  one  purpose,  all  of  one  mind,  signifies  to  me  that  there 
was  a  definite  need  for  it  felt  by  many  important  people. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Sam  Wood,  who  was  the  first 
president  of  the  alliance,  testified  early  in  the  week  as  to  the  aims  and 
purposes  of  the  alliance  and  they  were  put  into  the  record. 

Mrs.  Rogers,  while  you  were  employed  as  assistant  to  Mr.  Kerner 
at  R-K-0  was  it  part  of  your  duties  to  examine  certain  scripts  or 


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Stories  and  to  recommend  to  him  whether  or  not  they  should  be  con- 
sidered for  the  possible  production  of  a  picture  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes ;  that  was  mostly  my  entire  duty. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  this  committee  whether  or  not  you  ever 
reviewed  the  book  None  but  the  Lonely  Heart,  which  was  written  by 
Richard  Lewellyn  ? 

Mrs. 'Rogers.  Yes,  sir,  I  did.  It  was  in  the  early  part  of  1944.  Mr. 
Kerner  handed  me  a  book  entitled,  "None  but  the  Lonely  Heart,"  by 
Richard  Lewellyn.  He  wanted  me  to  read  it  and  give  an  immediate 
report  on  it.  It  seems  that  Gary  Grant  had  called  from  Columbia 
Studio  to  say  that  the  book  had  been  called  to  his  attention  by  some- 
one at  Cohnnbiu  who  recommended  it  as  a  good  story  for  him,  Mr. 
Grant.  Mr.  Grant  had  not  read  the  book.  He  wanted  R-K-0  to 
read  it  and  if  they  found  it  suitable  to  him  he  wanted  R-K-0  to  buy 
it  and  he  would  make  it  there.  I  found  I  couldn't  recommend  the 
book  and  said  so.  It  was  a  story  filled  with  despair  and  hopelessness 
and  in  my  opinion  was  not  a  Gary  Grant  vehicle.  When  I  finished 
stating  my  views  to  Mr.  Kerner  he  told  me  he  had  bought  it  only  a 
half  hour  before.  A  few  days  later  I  was  present  at  a  meeting  where 
Mr.  David  Hempstead,  who  had  been  producer  on  the  picture 

The  Chairman.  What  was  that  name,  Mrs.  Rogers  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  David  Hempstead.  He  had  been  made  producer  on 
the  picture.  He  reported  that  he  had  just  talked  to  Mr.  Clifford  Odets 
in  New  York  and  that  ISIr.  Odets  would  come  out  to  the  studio  and  do 
the  screen  play  on  the  story.     I  protested  this  very  vehemently. 

My  objection  to  Mr.  Odets  as  a  writer  was  that  for  years  I  had  heard 
that  Mr.  Odets  was  a  Communist.  I  warned  that  the  story  lent  itself 
to  propaganda,  particularly  in  the  hands  of  a  Communist.  During 
the  preparation  for  the  production  Mr.  Odets  was  made  director  as 
well  as  writer  and  as  the  picture  progressed  I  heard  that  Hanns  Eisler 
had  been  employed  to  do  the  musical  score  for  the  picture. 

Mr.  Striblixg.  If  I  may  interrupt  at  this  point,  Mrs.  Rogers. 

Mr.  Chairman,  Hanns  Eisler  testified  that  he  did  do  the  background 
music  for  the  picture,  None  but  the  Lonely  Heart. 

Mrs.  Rogers,  you  stated  that  you  had  heard  that  Clifford  Odets 
was  a  Communist.     What  do  you  base  that  upon? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  have  here  a  column  of  Mr.  O.  O.  Mclntyre,  date 
lined  January  8, 1936,  in  which  Mr.  Mclntyre  says  Mr.  Clifford  Odets, 
play  writer,  is  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party.  I  never  saw  that 
denied. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  aware  of  certain  sworn  testimony  taken  by 
the  State  Committee  of  California  on  Subversive  Activities? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  To  the  effect  that  Mr.  Odets  was  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  might  state  that  the  committee 
has  a  voluminous  record  of  Mr.  Clifford  Odets  and  his  activities.  As 
you  are  well  aware,  he  is  one  of  the  79  that  you  referred  to,  and  his 
record  will  be  taken  up  next  week. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  stated  that  Mr.  Odets  besides  writing  the 
script  for  this  picture  was  later  chosen  as  the  director  for  it? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  tell  us  whether  or  not  the  picture  was  a 
success  ? 

Mrs.  EoGERS.  The  picture  was  not  a  success  at  the  box  office,  though  I 
think  it  returned  its  cost. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Mr.  Odets  was  suc- 
cessful in  injecting  any  propaganda  into  the  film  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  have  here  under  date  line  of  October  2,  1944,  a  copy 
of  the  Hollywood  Reporter  with  a  review  of  None  But  the  Lonely 
Heart.  The  Hollywood  Reporter  is  a  Hollywood  trade  paper.  I 
will  read  the  criticism  that  I  read  at  that  time: 

The  story,  pitched  in  a  low  key,  is  moody  and  somber  throughout,  in  the  Russian 
manner  and  plods  inexorably  to  its  gloomy  ending  with  only  slight  redemption  in 
the  ray  of  hope  expressed  in  one  of  the  final  speeches.  For  the  most  part  it 
moves  slowly  and  takes  time  out  for  a  bit  of  propaganda  preachment  whenever 
Director  Clifford  Odets,  who  also  wrote  the  script  for  the  Richard  Lewellyn  novel, 
felt  the  urge. 

jVIr,  Stripling.  Would  you  say  that  was  a  typical  example  of  how 
a  Communist  would  be  successful  in  injecting  propaganda?  They 
refer  there — they  use  the  language,  I  believe,  "propaganda  preach- 
ment." 

Mrs.  Rogers.  That  is  right.  I  think  that  this  is  a  splendid  example, 
this  picture,  of  what  type  of  propaganda  Communists  like  to  inject  in 
motion  pictures. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  us  how  long  Mr.  Odets  remained  with 
R-K-0? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Well,  not  long  after  this  picture  was  released  Mr.  Odets 
was  made  a  producer  at  R-K-0.  How  long  he  remained  I  do  not  know 
because  I  severed  my  connections  with  R-K-O  in  1945,  September 
sometime. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Mr,  Odets  went  to 
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  from  R-K-0? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  think  I  heard  he  did,  but  as  to  that  I  would  not 
know  myself. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mrs.  Rogers,  there  has  been  considerable  testimony 
here  to  the  effect  that  it  is  through  the  script  writers  that  the  Com- 
munists have  been  most  successful  in  their  attempts  to  inject  Commu- 
nist propaganda  in  films.  Do  you  think  that  is  a  correct  analysis  of  the 
situation? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes;  I  think  the  Communist  gets  his  best  work  in  in 
the  field  of  writing. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  responsibility  do  you  think  should  rest  with 
the  film  executives  of  the  producers  regarding  the  Communist  influ- 
ence that  we  now  find  present  in  the  motion-picture  industry  ?  Do  you 
think  the  primary  responsibility  should  rest  with  them  for  permitting 
these  people  to  be  there,  to  infiltrate  into  the  industry? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes:  I  think  it  must  rest  with  them,  the  final  decision 
about  it.  Our  producing  executives  are  jzood  Americans  and  by  uti- 
lizing the  free-enterprise  system  of  the  United  States  they  have  built 
the  motion-picture  industry  up  to  where  it  is  now,  the  fourth  largest 
industry  in  the  world.  They  are  businessmen ;  they  are  not  politicians. 
Some  of  our  executives  have  been  received  by  the  party  liners  they 
hired.  As  a  free  people  we  had  no  experience  with  such  intrigue  and 
conspiracy.  Our  executives  were  no  more  asleep  than  were  our  people 
or  our  Government  or  the  whole  world,  in  fact.     The  Communist  is  a 


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trained  propagandist,  highly  disciplined,  as  is  revealed  by  the  testi- 
mony of  former  Soviet  ollicials  and  ex-members  of  the  Commmiist 
Party.  His  ways  are  devious  and  not  easy  to  follow.  I  think  that 
once  our  executives  see  this,  and  know  it  for  what  it  is,  they  will  be 
most  happy  to  clean  it  out  of  their  pictures. 

In  the  first  place,  there  have  beeli  very  few  pictures  ever  made  with 
Connnunist  propoganda  in  them  that  were  successes  at  the  box  office. 
1  feel  it  has  a  great  deal  to  do  with  the  dearth  of  good  pictures  today. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mrs.  Rogers,  Mr.  Robert  Taylor,  and  Mr.  Robert 
Montgomery,  among  others,  have  testified  that  they  would  not  act  in 
a  cast  or  })icture  in  wliich  Communists  were  in  the  cast,  or  in  which 
Comnnmist  lines  were  written  into  the  script.  As  your  daughter's 
manager,  so  to  speak,  have  you  and  your  daughter  ever  objected  to  or 
turned  down  scripts  because  you  felt  that  there  were  lines  in  there 
for  her  to  speak  which  you  felt  were  un-American  or  Communist 
pro]^aganda  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Many  times. 
.  Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  turned  down  many  scripts  for  these 
reasons  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir.  We  turned  down  Sister  Carrie,  by  Theodore 
Dreiser,  because  it  was  just  as  open  propaganda  as  None  But  the  Lonely 
Heart. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling,  Mr.  Vail  will  act  as  chairman. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes,  sir. 

Mrs.  Rogers,  that  is  a  right  or  a  privilege,  however,  which  only  top 
stars  can  enjoy?  The  average  actor,  or  person,  in  Hollywood,  is  not 
permitted  to  say  what  he  or  she  will  say  ?     Is  that  true  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Well,  that  is  true,  mostly — and  also  for  economic 
reasons.  Most  of  the  character  players  must  have  the  work  to  keep 
going.  But  most  of  the  people  of  Hollywood  would  not  know  a  line 
of  propaganda  if  they  saw  it.  They  will  feel  unhappy  with  it,  just  as 
the  audience  feels  unhappy  when  they  hear  it,  but  they  are  not  ac- 
quainted with  the  subject,  they  haven't  made  a  study  of  it  as  some  of 
us  have,  and  therefore  they  will  say  lines  and  then  afterward  say, 
"What  did  I  do?  I  didn't  like  that,  but  I  did  it,"  and  are  surprised  to 
learn  that  they  have  put  out  a  propaganda.  Communist  propairanda 
line.  The  star  does  not  make  a  picture  if  he  doesn't  want  to.  -He  can 
turn  it  down  with  no  explanation  whatsoever.  The  character  player 
just  can't  do  that. 

INIr.  Stripling.  Mrs.  Rogers,  as  one  who  has  observed  very  carefully 
the  infiltration  of  the  Communists  and  watched  their  activities,  what 
recommendations  could  you  make  to  the  committee  as  to  how  it  could 
best  be  cleaned  up  so  far  as  the  motion-picture  industry  is  concerned? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Well,  I  would  suggest  that  the  Congress  of  the  United 
States  immediately  enact  such  legislation  as  will  preserve  the  Bill  of 
Rights  to  the  people  for  whom  it  was  designed.  That  precious  bill 
was  never  intended  to  protect  enemy  agents,  saboteurs,  and  spies, 
whether  they  are  American  or  foreign  born. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  vou  favor  the  outlawing  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  favor  the  outlawing  of  the  Communist  Party  as  an 
agency  of  a  foreign  government. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  consider  them  to  be  agents  of  a  foreign 
government  ? 


234  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  do,  sir ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  those  are  all  the  questions  I  have  at 
this  time. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  McDowell,  any  questions? 

Mr.  McDowEix,.  Mrs.  Rogers,  you  have  devoted  many  years  to  the 
readino;  of  manuscripts  and  the  study  of  pictures  in  general.  You 
make  the  statement  here  that  there  was  Communist  propaganda,  as 
you  detected  it,  in  this  film  None  But  the  Lonely  Heart.  I  haven't 
heard  any  description  of  Communist  propaganda  in  these  films  yet 
except  that  a  banker  was  shown  occasionally  as  being  a  no-good,  and 
so  forth.  Well,  of  course,  I  know  many  fine  bankers,  many  patriotic 
men.  I  also  know  some  stinkers  that  should  have  been  in  jail  30  years 
ago.  That  doesn't  necessarily  constitute  the  Communist  propaganda. 
What  would  describe  in  this  film  as  being  Communist  propaganda? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  In  None  But  the  Lonely  Heart? 

Mr.  McDowell.   Yes. 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  can't  quote  the  lines  of  the  play  exactly  but  I  can 
give  you  the  sense  of  them.  There  is  one  place  in  which — it  is  unfair, 
may  I  say,  to  take  a  scene  from  its  context  and  try  to  make  it  sound 
like  Communist  propaganda,  because  a  Communist  is  very  careful, 
very  clever,  and  very  devious  in  the  way  he  sets  the  film.  If  I  were 
to  give  you  a  line  from  that  play  straight  out  a^ou  would  say  "What 
is  wrong  with  that  line?"  unless  you  knew  that  the  Communist  is 
trying  in  every  way  to  tear  down  our  free-enterprise  system,  to  make 
the  people  lose  faith  in  it,  so  that  they  will  want  to  get  something 
else — and  the  Communists  have  it  waiting  for  them. 

I  will  tell  you  of  one  line.  The  mother  in  the  story  runs  a  second- 
hand store.  The  son  says  to  her,  "You  are  not  going  to" — in  essence, 
I  am  not  quoting  this  exactly  because  I  can't  remember  it  exactly — he 
said  to  her,  "You  are  not  going  to  get  me  to  work  here  and  squeeze 
pennies  out  of  little  people  poorer  than  I  am." 

Now,  laid  upon  the  background  of — that  is  the  free-enterprise 
system — trade,  and  we  don't  necessarily  squeeze  pennies  from  people 
poorer  than  we  are.  Many  people  are  poorer  and  many  people  are 
richer. 

As  I  say,  you  find  yourself  in  an  awful  hole  the  moment  you  start 
to  remove  one  of  the  scenes  from  its  context. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  unfortunately  for  an  intelligent  discussion, 
I  didn't  see  the  picture,  so  I  am  at  a  complete  loss.  In  the  matter 
of  the  Hanns  Eisler  background  music,  I  would  judge  after  hearing 
you,  both  here  and  in  California,  that  you  would  conclude  that  would 
contribute  nothing  to  the  Communist  text  of  the  film  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  No;  I  do  not  think  that  that  would;  no.  It  only 
shows  that  when  a  Communist  secures  a  firm  footing  in  a  picture  he 
surrounds  himself  with  other  Communists. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Thank  you,  Mrs.  Rogers. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mrs.  Rogers,  in  your  opinion  what  percentage  of  the 
actors  in  the  film  industry  are  communistically  inclined? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  wouldn't  be  able  to  tell  you  in  exact  percentages.  It 
is  very  small,  I  can  assure  you  of  that.  But  it  is  getting  bigger. 
The  dommunist  Party  protects  those  people.  They  bring  them  out 
and  smack  them  right  into  stardom  and  keep  them  there — the  Com- 


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munists  in  key  positions  in  Hollywood  and  those  who  have  con- 
fidence of  the  producers. 

Mr.  Vail.  We  had  before  us  yesterday  several  prominent  screen 
actors  who  gave  it  as  their  opinion  that  less  than  1  percent  of  the 
actors  were  associated  with  communistic  activities.  Do  you  think 
that  is  a  fair  estimate? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  think  that  is  a  fair  estimate  when  you  realize  how 
many  actors  there  really  are  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Vail.  Would  you  be  able  to  make  an  estimate  of  the  percentage 
of  those  communistically  inclined  among  the  screen  writers? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes.  That  is  a  very  small  percentage  too,  but  may 
I,  in  explanation,  say  that  Communists  do  not  have  anywhere  and  do 
not  want  numerical  superiority.  They  do  not  want  you  to  become  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party.  They  want  a  small  and  effective, 
highly  trained  and  highly  disciplined  cell,  and  they  will  take  care  oi 
the  rest  of  us  in  their  own  way.  There  are  around  200,000,000  in 
Russia  but  there  are  only  about  2,000,000  Communists  in  Russia. 

Mr.  Vail.  But,  in  other  words,  to  be  effective  on  the  Hollywood 
scene  wouldn't  you  imagine  that  they  would  have  to  have  greater 
numerical  strength,  greater  than  1  percent? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  You  are  thinking  like  an  American,  sir. 

Mr.  Vail.  That  is  the  way  I  like  to  think. 

Mrs.  Rogers.  That  is  right,  and  you  should,  and  that  is  why  it  is  so 
hard  for  the  American  to  understand.  They  want  a  highly  trained 
cell  and  they  will  influence  you  and  everyone  around  you.  They  are 
taught  in  their  own  schools  to  do  it.  They  hold  schools  to  do  it.  They 
have  the  teachers  to  teach  you  to  do  it.  Out  of  those  they  classify  their 
students  into  those  that  can  be  trusted  with  discipline  and  those  that 
are  stooges,  fellow  travelers,  and  who  can  be  trusted  to  carry  out  orders 
up  to  a  certain  point. 

No ;  they  do  not  want  all  of  us  to  be  Communists.  You  do  not  see 
in  a  picture  Mr.  Stalin's  picture,  in  a  motion  picture,  or  anything  that 
tries  to  make  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party.  If  you  did  the 
American  public  would  throw  eggs  at  it  and  laugh  it  off  the  screen. 
It  has  to  be  a  slow  softening-up  process  at  the  present  time  and  that 
must  be  kept  in  the  hands  of  a  small  and  well-trained  cell,  sometimes 
only  three  in  a  large  union. 

Mr.  Vail.  Well,  I  was  impressed  with  the  fact  that  there  must  have 
been  some  numerical  strength  in  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild  when  it 
became  necessary  for  a  number  of  the  writers  to  resign  from  the  organ- 
ization and  establish  a,  new  organization. 

Mrs.  Rogers.  No.  I  am  not  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild 
but  I  believe  there  are  around  900  memb^i's  and  I  don't  believe  there 
are  over  80  or  90  Communists  or  even  fellow  travelers  in  it.  I  mean 
people  that  agree  with  them  and  follow  their  dictation.  I  don't 
believe  there  are  more  than  that  in  it.  It  doesn't  need  more  than  that. 
In  fact,  eight  of  them  could  run  it  if  they  get  on  the  board. 

Mr.  Vail.  In  other  W' ords,  wdiat  the}^  lack  in  numerical  strength  they 
make  up  in  the  cleverness  of  their  maneuvers  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  They  do  not  want  ever  numerical  strength.  They 
don't  want  it  here  in  the  United  States.  They  don't  want  us  to  be 
Communists.    They  want  to  just  run  us. 

Mr.  Vail.  We  have  pending  before  the  committee  as  you  may  be 
aware,  Mrs.  Rogers,  several  bills  providing  for  legislation  to  outlaw 


236  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

communism.     From  what  you  have  said  tliis  morning  I  take  it  that 
you  favor  sucli  legislation  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Vail.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mrs.  Rogers. 

The  Chairman,  Mrs.  Rogers,  do  you  believe  the  Communist  in- 
fluence in  Hollywood  is  increasing  or  decreasing? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  think  their  activities  are  increasing.  I  think  it  has 
had  a  great  check  put  on  it  by  those  of  us  who  recognized  it  long  ago. 
I  feel  we  have  held  it  in  check  by  exposing  it.  I  know  what  it  would 
be  like  if  we  had  not.  I  know  what  it  would  look  like  now  with 
the  start  that  they  had.  But  in  exposing,  you  see,  when  the  American 
people  find  out  you  have  got  your  battle  about  half  won,  or  maybe 
more  than  that.  But  the  American  people,  they  think  that  a  Com- 
munist is  a  man  with  bushy  eyebrows  and  a  great  huge  Russian  beard. 
They  can't  believe  that  they  could  be  American  citizens.  I  can't 
believe  it  myself.  I  don't  understand  it.  But  they  are — and  pretty, 
too. 

The  Chairman.  Why  are  some  of  the  persons  in  Hollywood  who 
have  been  very  successful  in  their  lives,  w^riters,  actors,  businessmen ; 
why  would  they  follow  the  Communist  line  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  have  often  asked  myself  that.  When  a  man  sits 
alone  w'ith  his  soul  and  sees  what  we  have  in  America,  and  if  he  is 
an  intelligent  man  he  has  looked  around  to  the  rest  of  the  world 
and  has  seen  the  condition  that  the  rest  of  the  world  is  in,  under 
their  forms  of  government,  I  often  wonder  what  in  the  world  he 
is  thinking  about.  What  have  the  Communists  got  that  he  wants? 
The  only  thing  I  can  think  of  is  that  he  must  want  advantage  of  some 
sort,  that  he  must  believe  that  he  is  especially  appointed,  and  that  the 
world  will  make  him  a  god — or  a  commissar,  let  us  say,  which  is  the 
same  thing  in  their  language.  I  can't  understand  that  quirk  of  mind 
myself. 

The  Chairman.  You  believe  then  that  by  exposing  communism,  by 
aiding  to  educate  the  American  people  as  to  the  dangers  of  commu- 
nism, that  we  will  do  more  that  way  to  destroy  their  influence  than 
any  other  way  ? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Well,  I  have  always  said  that  if  a  banker  was  going 
to  break  in  a  new  teller  he  wouldn't  take  him  down  in  the  basement 
and  show  him  99,000,000  kinds  of  counterfeits  that  have  been  offered 
to  the  bank,  but  would  show  him  the  real  thing  and  then  anything 
they  devised  is  no  good,  is  counterfeit,  and  I  think  that  if  we  will  re- 
state American  principles,  and  the  application  of  those  principles  to 
present-day  life,  we  have  got  them  nailed  to  the  mast. 

I  think  that  that  is  the  reason  the}^  have  been  able  to  make  the  in- 
roads that  they  have  now,  because  it  has  been  so  long  since  our  children 
have  had  this  instilled  in  their  schools.  Remember,  Connnunists  are 
in  control  of  many  of  the  schools,  your  clubs,  your  study  clubs,  even 
the  little  women's  clubs,  wdiere  women  come  to  read  books  to  them 
and  explain  plays  to  them.  Communists  have  their  cohorts  that  do 
the  reading  and  choosing  of  the  books — and  the  leftist  book  always 
got  by  beautifully.  It  has  been  a  long  time  since  we  have  had  the 
feeling  that  we  have  a  clear  school,  that  our  children  are  being  taught 
about  America.  I  think  that  when  we  show  the  ]3eople  America,  as 
against  the  face  of  this  thing,  we  have  just  about  licked  it. 


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The  CiiAiRMAN.  Well,  can't  the  moving-picture  industry  aid  in 
that  to  a  great  extent? 

Mrs.  RooERS.  Oh,  immeasurably,  but  it  has  been  a  long  time  since 
you  could  get  a  good  American  story  bought  in  the  motion-picture 
industry. 

The  CiiAiRMAx.  Have  you  noticed  any  change  in  that  regard  in  the 
last  (')  months? 

Mrs.  RocERs.  Yes;  I  think  the  feeling  is  beginning  to  change.  I 
think  it  is.  1  think  it  looks  very  hopeful.  I  think  the  lefty  now  has 
been  brought  out  in  his  true  colors  and  I  think  the  executive  is  going 
to  be  afraid  of  him  from  now  on. 

The  Chairman.  Then  these  stories  to  the  effect  that  the  hearings 
currently  being  held  by  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  are 
harming  the  industry  or  might  harm  the  industry ;  do  you  believe  that 
to  be  true? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  I  do  not.  I  do  not  believe  that  to  be  true.  I  do  not 
believe  that  anything  that  could  happen  with  our  Government  could 
hurt  our  industry.  I  never  want  to  see  the  motion-picture  industry 
controlled — no  more  than  any  other  industry,  except  those  basic  laws 
that  control  every  industry.  I  want  to  see  it  free  to  make  what  it 
wants  to  make,  but  I  want  to  have  it  stay  within  the  truth,  instead  of 
these  lies  we  have  been  told. 

The  Chairman.  Mrs.  Rogers,  what  can  we  do  to  wake  up  the  in- 
dustry to  produce  more  really  American  pictures? 

JNIrs.  Rogers.  I  think  you  are  doing  it. 

The  Chairman.  You  think  we  are  doing  it? 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDow-ell. 

Mr.  McDow^ell.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  think  it  should  be  said  for  the 
record,  and  particularly  for  the  benefit  of  the  representatives  of  the 
press  here  and  the  American  people,  that  Mrs.  Lela  Rogers  is  not 
merely  a  disturbed  lady  who  in  the  course  of  her  activities  in  Holl}^- 
wood  has  stumbled  across  the  fingers  of  this  conspiracy  against  the 
American  Government,  but  that  long  ago  she  discovered  it  and  that 
she  has  become,  in  my  opinion,  one  of  the  outstanding  experts  on  com- 
munism in  the  United  States,  and  particularly  in  the  amusement  in- 
dustry. Her  opinions  are  those  gathered  over  many  years.  I  think 
the  American  people  should  know  that  and  know  that  she  is  lending 
her  great  talents  in  the  general  fight  against  it. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  No  more  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mrs.  Rogers,  and  we  cer- 
tainly liope  we  didn't" put  you  out  too  much  in  coming  all  the  way  from 
Hollywood." 

Mrs.  Rogers.  Not  at  all. 

(Witness  excused.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  next  witness,  Mr.  Chairman,  will  be  Mr.  Oliver 
Carlson.  ^f| 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Carlson,  do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony" 
you  are  about  to  give  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing 
but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  do. 


"  Seo  apponrlix,  p.  5^1.3,  for  exhibU  54. 
67683 — 47 16 


238  .COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

TESTIMONY  OF  OLIVER  CARLSON 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Carlson,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address,  please  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  My  name  is  Oliver  Carlson.  My  address  is  1728 
Westerly  Terrace,  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Carlson? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  was  born  in  Sweden,  July  31, 1899. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  am  a  writer  and  teacher  and  I  specialize  in  the 
field  of  political  science,  more  particularly  in  the  field  of  propaganda 
techniques.    I  have  worked  in  that  field  for  about  20  years  or  more. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Where  are  you  presently  employed  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  am  employed  as  a  teacher  by  the  extension  division 
of  the  University  of  California. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  testimony  of  Mr.  Carlson  will 
be  developed  by  Mr.  Gaston  and  Mr.  Mandel  of  the  committee's  staff. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  how  long  have  you  been  a  student  of  the 
Communist  movement  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  I  should  say  all  of  my  adult  life  and  for  the  past 
20  years  in  particular  I  have  given  it  especial  study.  When  I  was  with 
the  University  of  Chicago  from  1930  through  1932  in  the  political 
science  department  I  made  a  special  study  of  the  propaganda  tech- 
niques of  the  Communist  movement  both  abroad  and  in  this  country. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Have  you  written  any  books  or  articles  dealing  with 
certain  phases  of  communism  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes,  I  have  written  a  great  many  articles  over  a  period 
of  20  years  or  so,  appearing  in  many  of  the  national  magazines.  Also 
in  several  of  my  books  I  have  made  special  reference  to  the  problem 
of  communism.  One  of  these  books,  titled  "A  Mirror  for  Califor- 
nians,"  which  I  wrote  in  1939  and  the  early  part  of  1940,  and  which 
was  published  in  the  spring  of  1941,  has  a  good  deal  of  information 
about  the  Communist  movement  in  California,  and  in  one  chapter 
dealing  with  Hollywood  I  devote  a  i^art  of  that  chapter  to  a  discussion 
of  the  Communist  infiltration  in  Hollywood  up  to  that  time. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Would  you  go  into  more  detail  with  regard  to  the 
Communist  infiltration  in  Hollywood,  please,  sir? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  if  I  may  I  would  like  to  give  you  as  a  back- 
ground a  paragraph  or  two  as  to  what  I  had  to  say  about  it  in  this  book 
of  mine,  and  the  material  of  which  was  written,  as  I  say,  9  j^ears  ago. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Is  that  agreeable,  Mr.  Chairman? 

The  Chairman.  Yes.  May  I  interrupt?  Mr.  Gaston,  would  you 
give  your  full  name  ? 

Mr.  Gaston.  Yes,  sir.    Kobert  B.  Gaston,  G-a-s-t-o-n. 

The  Chairman.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  am  quoting  now  from  pages  154,  5,  and  6,  and  the 
chapter  is  entitled  "There  Is  No  Town  Called  Hollywood." 

I  said : 

Here  is  the  third  ring  just  getting  under  way. 

I  might  say  parenthetically  that  I  had  described  Hollywood  as  a  vast 
three-ring  circus.    I  continue : 

It  is  a  unique  performance  given  by  what  we  may  designate  as  our  Hollywood 
newlyweds. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  239 

It  all  began  back  in  1935,  when  social  consciousness  suddenly  hit  inovieland. 
Like  all  new  fads  and  fancies,  it  was  embraced  with  rapturous  enthusiasm. 
Here  was  something  great  and  good,  something  new  and  daring — but  not  too 
daring.  Stalin  himself  had  just  announced  tliat  Russia  now  had  the  only  geiuiine 
democracy ;  the  Communist  Party  was  wrapping  itself  in  the  Stars  and  Stripes 
and  declaring  that  "Communism  is  twentieth  century  Americanism."  President 
Roosevelt,  no  less,  had  taken  the  national  lead  in  denouncing  economic  royalists 
and  political  re:ictionaries;  while  out  in  California,  Upton  Sinclair  under  the 
slogan  of  "End  poverty  in  California"  had  captured  the  Democratic  gubernatorial 
nomination  in  1934  and  amassed  nearly  a  million  votes. 

In  the  favorable  circumstances  it  is  quite  understandable  how  Hollywood 
sopliisticates  came  to  coin  the  slogan,  "It's  smart  to  be  a  Red."  Astrologists, 
spiritualists,  graphologists,  mystics,  and  fortune  tellers  of  a  hundred  varieties, 
who  had  long  adorned  tlie  parties  and  gave  aid  and  comfort  to  the  great  and  near 
great  of  cinemaland,  were  unceremoniously  dumped.  Their  places  were  taken  by 
serious-minded  young  men  and  women  who  explained  the  inner  workings  of  dia- 
lectical matefialism,  the  theory  of  the  class  struggle,  the  insolvible  contradiction 
of  our  capitalism,  and  the  inevitability  of  the  rule  of  the  proletariat.  Drawing 
room  tables  were  now  replaced  with  the  works  of  Marx,  Lenin,  Stalin,  Browder, 
and  above  all  John  Strachey. 

I  will  not  continue,  Mr,  Questioner,  except  to  say  that  I  follow 
through  here  and  indicate  how  the  Hollywood  pockethooks,  which  had 
never  been  too  tightly  closed,  were  open  wide  to  aid  the  cause  and  its 
champions,  writers,  directors,  and  actors,  and  all  of  these  others  join- 
ing in,  and  how  when  the  Hollywood  Anti-Nazi  League  became  organ- 
ized and  staged  a  series  of  meetings  the  Communists  were  able  to  use 
this,  drawing  into  it  vast  numbers  of  good  American  citizens  who  were 
definitely  anti-Nazi,  but  the  movement  was,  of  course,  controlled  and 
led  by  the  Communist  groups  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  GAST0^r.  Do  you  know  of  anyone  being  sent  out  from  New  York 
to  Hollywood  to  conduct  the  activities  of  the  Communists  m  Holly- 
wood? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes;  I  do.  I  know  there  were  a  number  of  people 
sent  out  at  various  times.  V.  J.  Jerome  was  one  of  them,  but  the  per- 
son I  think  of  in  particular  was  a  man  whose  name  was  Eli  Jacobson. 

Eli  Jacobson  was  from  New  York,  I  had  known  him  and  his  family 
many,  many  years  ago  when  we  were  boys.  Eli  Jacobson  was  a  charter 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  in  America.  Back  in  the  middle 
twenties  he  had  been  director  of  the  Workers  School  in  New  York  City. 

I  have  here,  in  order  to  identify  that,  a  copy  of  the  announcement 
of  courses  of  the  Workers  School  for  the  year  1926-27,  and  in  it  in  two 
different  places  Mr.  Eli  Jacobson  appears  as  a  teacher  of  courses. 

I  might  add  that  in  this  same  school  there  were  teaching  such  names 
as  have  been  mentioned  here — Albert  Trachtenberg,  the  man  who  was 
said  to  be  the  head  of  the  Cultural  Commission  of  the  Communist 
Party,  and  who  has  been  the  head  man  of  International  Publishers, 
the  publication  house  of  the  Communist  Party  for  many  years, 

Mr.  Mandel.  Mr.  Carlson,  how  is  that  school  designated  on  the 
title  of  the  catalog? 

Mr.  Carlson.  On  the  title  of  the  catalog  it  says  "The  Workers 
School,"  and  below  it  says  in  quotes  "Training  for  the  class  struggle." 

I  might  possibly  read  from  its  definition  at  the  beginning. 

It  says : 

Education  in  a  class  society  cannot  be  indifferent  to  the  struggle  between  classes 
nor  can  it  be  impartial  toward  the  contesting  groups. 

It  goes  on  with  the  typical  Communist  Party  line.  This  is  and  has 
been  for  many  years  the  Communist  Party  school.     Earl  Browder, 


240  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

William  Z.  Foster,  Jack  Satachov,  William  Weinstone,  almost  every 
important  leader  of  the  Communist  l*arly,  has  at  one  time  or  another 
conducted  classes  or  seminars  in  that  school. 

Mr.  Jacobson  was,  as  I  say,  at  one  time  director  of  this  school  and 
also  served  as  an  instructor  in  it.  He  went  to  Russia  and  taught  for 
the  University  of  Moscow  for  a  time,  I  believe,  and  has  always  been 
considered  a  high  functionary  and  a  particularly  able  propagandist 
for  the  Communist  movement. 

Well,  to  get  back  to  the  case,  I  bumped  into  Mr.  Jacobson  in  Los 
Angeles  some  time  in  1936  but  his  name  was  not  conspicuous  as  a  Com- 
munist there.  He  was  closely  associated  at  that  time  with  a  lady 
known  as  Mrs.  Beryl  La  Cava,  B-e-r-y-1  L-a  C-a-v-a.  Mrs.  La  Cava 
was  the  divorced  wife  of  Gregory  La  Cava,  a  very  splendid  motion- 
picture  director. 

As  I  recall  from  the  newspaper  accounts  of  the  divorce  proceedings, 
Mr.  La  Cava  accused  his  wife  of  being  a  very  ardent  Communist. 

Toward  the  fall  of  1938  my  phone  rang  a  number  of  times  and  Mr. 
Jacobson,  who  had  not  been  on  any  friendly  terms  with  me  for  15 
years,  or  more,  was  suddenly  anxious  to  talk  with  me. 

I  finally  saw  him  one  evening.  He  was  very  much  perturbed  and 
said  he  felt  I  was  the  only  old  friend  he  had  to  whom  he  could  come 
and  talk  because  he  had  decided  to  break  with  the  Communist  Party. 

Then  he  told  me  how  he  had  been  sent  to  Hollywood  under  specific 
instructions  from  the  Central  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party, 
and  that  his  duties  in  Hollywood  were  to  conduct  classes  and,  in  gen- 
eral, eclucational  propaganda  for  the  Communist  Party  among  film 
folk — not  among  the  rank-and-file  workers,  but,  rather,  among  the 
elite,  so  to  speak.  Those  were  the  terms  he  used,  and  that  for  the  past 
2  or  21^  years  that  had  been  the  main  purpose  of  his  work. 

He  told  me  he  had  prepared  the  ground  work  for  several  meetings 
for  V.  J.  Jerome,  who  was,  according  to  ISIr.  Rushmore's  testimony,  the 
active  man  at  the  head  of  Communist  activities  insofar  as  Hollywood 
and  the  film  industry  was  concerned.  He  mentioned  that  he  had  also 
helped  prepare  the  ground  work  for  several  meetings  for  Mr.  Kyle 
Crichton.  Mr.  Crichton  was  at  the  time,  and  I  believe  still  is,  one  of 
the  editors  of  Collier's  Magazine. 

At  that  time  Mr.  Crichton  had  been  writing  under  the  name  of 
Robert  Forsythe,  I  believe  it  is,  in  the  New  Masses,  a  series  of  articles 
on  cultural  problems.  He  was  very  much  lionized  in  Hollywood  and 
spoke  at  a  large  number  of  small  meetings. 

Mr.  Jacobson  told  me  that  he  and  Mrs.  LaCava  were  largely  instru- 
mental in  arranging  these  meetings. 

Mr.  Jacobson  likewise  informed  me  that  part  of  his  job  at  that  time 
was  to  see  to  it  that  many  of  these  important  film  personalities  were 
softened  up  so  that  tliey  would  agree  to  join  the  various  front  organiza- 
tions which  the  Connnunist  Party  was  then  sponsoring  in  the  Holly- 
wood region. 

I  do  not  recall  all  of  the  organizations  he  mentioned,  but  there  were 
some.  There  was  the  League  Airainst  War  and  Fascism.  There  was 
the  Committee  to  Boycott  the  Olympics  in  Berlin.  There  were  the 
various  Connnunist  front  committees  for  the  defense  of  Spain.  There 
were  a  whole  host  of  other  organizations  which  he  referred  to  at  that 
time. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  241 

Mr.  Mandel.  Was  the  Western  Writers  Congress  one  of  those  organ- 
izations? 

Mr.  Cari.son.  Yes,  very  definitely,  the  Western  Writers  Congress, 
which  took  phice  in  Sui  Francisco  in  November  of  lO^B,  was  also  one 
of  those  for  which  INIr.  Jacobson  had  done  preliminary  spade  work 
in  helping  to  bring  a  nnmber  of  writers  from  Hollywood. 

One  other  thing  he  told  me  was  that  his  job  was  to  prepare  the 
gronndwork  for  getting  substantial  contributions  for  the  front  organ- 
izations after  people  had  been  sufficiently  prepared  for  the  various 
party  educational  units,  and  possibly  even  for  the  party,  itself. 

Mi*.  Jacobson,  I  might  say,  was  terribly  agitated.  He  Avas  afraid  he 
was  going  to  be  killed.  I  saw  him  and  Mrs.  LaCava  on  a  number  of 
occasions  during  the  next  8  or  10  months,  and  then  he  left  Los  Angeles 
altogether  and  I  never  heard  of  him  since.  I  don't  know  whether  he 
is  dead  or  alive. 

IVfr.  IMcDowELL.  Do  you  believe  he  was  sincere  in  helping  to  put  the 
party  in  power? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes.  Mr.  Jacobson  had  been,  as  I  said,  one  of  the 
foundation  members  of  the  Communist  Party;  he  had  been  one  of  the 
originators  of  it,  and  had  enjoyed  the  trust  of  the  leaders  of  the  party. 
He  would  not  have  had  the  position  of  Director  of  the  Official  Com- 
munist Party  School  if  he  had  not  enjoyed  that  position. 

He  had  been  taken  to  Moscow,  as  I  say,  both  to  do  some  teaching  and 
I  imagine  to  also  be  prepared  for  other  work  to  be  done  in  this  country. 

INIr.  Jacobson  did  not  appear  openly  as  a  Communist  at  any  time 
during  this  period  he  was  in  Hollywood.  His  job  was  to  sort  of 
carry  his  work  on  under  the  other  guises. 

Mr.  Gaston.  He  was  the  undercover  man  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  in  a  sense;  yes.  He  certainly  never  was  a 
speaker,  to  my  knowledge,  and  he  said  he  was  instructed  not  to  appear 
as  a  speaker  at  Communist  Party  rallies  because  he  had  this  other 
important  job  assigned  to  him. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  are  there  any  educational  institutions 
used  by  the  Communists  to  develop  their  propaganda  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes,  indeed.  After  all.  Communist  indoctrination 
has  to  proceed,  among  other  ways,  through  the  use  of  classes  and 
schools.  There  had  been  a  Communist  workers'  school  in  Los  Angeles 
for  a  number  of  years,  but  it  never  amounted  to  very  much.  However, 
along  about  1940,  I  should  say,  the  announcement  was  made  that  a 
"new  general  progressive  or  radical  educational  center  was  to  be 
organized. 

Mr.  William  Wolfe,  W-o-l-f-e,  I  believe  he  spells  it,  who  had  been 
an  educational  director  for  the  International  Ladies'  Garment  Workers' 
Union,  and  who  was  not  a  Commimist,  told  me  he  had  been  approached 
and  offered  the  job  of  director  of  this  new  educational  center.  He 
wanted  to  know  if  I  was  interested.  I  said  I  was  interested  only  if  he 
knew  Avho  was  going  to  be  on  the  board  of  directors,  and  who  was 
behind  it. 

Within  the  matter  of  a  few  weeks  there  was  a  good  deal  of  evidence 
to  show  that  this  school  was  to  be  controlled  by  the  Communists.  Well- 
known  names  of  Communists  began  to  appear  and  Mr.  Wolfe,  who, 
up  to  that  time,  had  been  a  very  close  friend  of  mine,  and  had  called 
on  me  frequently,  suddenly  became  very  distant.     He  was  in  the  com- 


242  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

pany  of  these  other  people  and  with  them  established  the  Peoples 
Educational  Center. 

This  organization,  this  school,  has  been  functioning  and  is  still  func- 
tioning to  this  date. 

Mr.  William  Wolfe  was  removed  as  director  after  a  relatively  short 
period,  and  two  or  three  other  people,  I  believe,  served  as  directors, 
but  for  the  past  2  years  the  director  has  been  Mr.  Sidney  Davison, 
D-a-v-i-s-o-n. 

Sidney  Davison — and  I  think  there  is  ample  evidence  on  this — was 
a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  New  York  area  and  was  sent 
out  to  Hollywood  specifically  to  take  over  the  job  of  director  of  this 
school.     He  is  the  director  at  the  present  time. 

I  have  in  my  possession  here  two  of  the  official  bulletins  of  the 
Peoples  Educational  Center.  I  have  the  one  published  for  the  summer 
session  of  1945.  I  have  a  photostat  of  the  one  for  the  winter  of  1947, 
and  I  have  copied  out  in  longhand  material  from  a  similar  bulletin  for 
the  year  1944.  Perhaps  I  can  best  explain  what  this  Peoples  Educa- 
tional Center  is 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  may  I  interrupt  you  right  there  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Is  there  anybody  connected  with  the  motion-picture 
industry  on  the  staff  of  that  school  ? 

Mr.  Caklson.  Yes,  indeed,  most  assuredly.  In  fact,  they  have  al- 
ways devoted  a  good  deal  of  attention  to  courses  in  screen  writing, 
motion-picture  production,  and  things  like  that. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Could  we  have  some  of  those  names,  please? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes.  On  the  board  of  directors  for  1947  appears  Mr. 
John  Howard  Lawson,  who  has  been  mentipned  here  before.  On  the 
advisory  board  appears  the  name  of  Helmer  Bergman.  Mr.  Helmer 
Bergman  is  a  well-known  pro-Communist  in  Los  Angeles  working 
in  the  film  industry.  He  has  been  very  active  with  the  Conference  of 
Studio  Unions  in  its  attempt  to  gain  control  over  the  trade  unions. 

On  this  board  was  the  name  of  Mr.  Herbert  Sorrell,  who  is  the  head 
of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions,  president,  I  believe,  of  the  Holly- 
wood Painters  local,  and  who  has  been  in  long  and  close  association 
with  all  Communist  and  Communist-front  organizations  over  a  period 
of  years. 

On  this  advisory  board  also  appears  the  name  of  Frank  Tuttle. 
Likewise,  the  name  of  Sandra  Gorney,  G-o-r-n-e-y,  whose  husband, 
I  believe,  is  a  song  writer  in  the  film  industry.  Sandra  Gorney's  name 
has  appeared  rather  frequently  as  a  contril)utor  of  articles  to  the 
Peoples  Daily  World  or  the  Daily  Peoples  World,  and  I  think  I  have 
seen  her  name  also  on  certain  articles  in  Hollywood  in  the  Daily 
Worker. 

Among  the  courses  given  were — this  is  from  the  1947  pamphlet  *- — 
course  on  the  history  of  the  American  labor  movement  given  by  Mr. 
Milton  Tyre,  of  the  law  firm  of  Gallagher,  Margolis,  and  Katz,  two 
of  whose  members  are  here,  I  think,  defending  those  charged  with 
being  un-American  and  subversive  in  their  activities. 

The  Chairman.  I  want  to  make  it  very  plain  the  committee  has  not 
made  any  charges  yet. 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes ;  I  understand  that.  I  say  they  have  been  charged 
by  people  in  Hollywood. 

*^  See  appendix,  p.  533,  for  exhibit  55. 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  243 

I  find  a  course  entitled  "Labor's  Key  Problems,"  and  among  the 
teachers  of  this  course  which  deals  specifically  Avith  the  problems  of 
the  motion-picture  industry,  are  Helmer  Berfrman,  whom  I  mentioned 
a  moment  ago;  William  B.  Esteman,  E-s-t-e-m-a-n,  an  attorney  in 
the  firm  of  Esteman  and  Pestana,  P-e-s-t-a-n-a.  The  firm  of  Esteman 
and  Pestana  are  the  official  attorneys  for  the  Conference  of  Studio 
Unions,  Mr,  Herbert  Sorrell's  organization,  which  has  been  accused — 
and  I  think  justly — of  being  under  Communist  domination. 

Also  Mr.  Victor  Kaplan  is  listed  here  as  one  of  the  teachers  in  that 
school.  He  is  an  attorney,  or  was,  according  to  this,  in  the  firm  of 
Gallagher,  Margolis,  and  Katz. 

But  more  specifically,  we  have  the  courses  which  I  believe  your  com- 
mittee is  interested  in.  We  have  here  a  course  called  Motion  Picture 
Direction,  Thursday,  8 :  30  to  10  p.  m.  Coordinator  Irving  Pichel. 
Under  this  it  says  there  will  be  several  lectures. 

A  section  on  story  preparation  by  Herber  Biberman,  who  has  been 
identified  over  a  period  of  years  with  pro-Soviet  organizations. 

A  lecture  on  production  preparation  by  Vincent  Sherman,  S-h-e-r- 
m-a-n,  who  is,  I  believe,  a  screen  writer. 

A  lecture  called  On  the  Set,  by  Frank  Tuttle;  one  on  camera,  by 
Paul  Ivano,  I-v-a-n-o.    I  know  nothing  about  Mr.  Ivano. 

One  on  cutting,  by  Mr.  Edward  Dmytryk,  D-m-y-t-r-y-k,  a  well- 
known  Hollywood  producer. 

One  on  production,  by  Kenneth  Macgowan,  a  well-known  Holly- 
wood producer. 

Music,  by  Hugo  Friedhofer,  who  is  working  in  that  field  in  the 
movies,  and  the  summary  by  Mr.  Pichel. 

There  is  likewise  a  course  entitled  "The  Motion  Picture's  Illusion 
and  Reality."  I  find  under  the  description  of  the  course  the  things 
that  are  to  be  discussed,  and  included  are  the  following  about  the  film 
industry:  Who  owns  the  industry?  Who  controls  it?  How  is  content 
determined  ?  What  is  the  role  of  censorship  ?  Why  the  star  system  ? 
The  current  status  of  the  guilds  and  unions,  and  the  role  of  motion 
pictures  in  international  politics. 

The  teachers  of  this  course,  according  to  this  document,  are  Ben 
Barzman,  B-a-r-z-m-a-n,  Karen  Morley,  M-o-r-l-e-y.  a  well  known 
screen  star;  Arnold  Manoff,  ]M-a-n-o-f-f,  then  it  says  "and  others." 

There  are  also  three  courses  in  screen  writing  given :  Screen  Writ- 
ing 1  is  conducted  by  Robert  Lees.  Screen  Writing  2,  by  Val  Burton. 
Screen  Writing  3  by  Stanley  Rubin.  I  will  quote  from  their  folder 
here  as  to  who  these  people  are  in  just  a  moment. 

There  are  a  number  of  other  courses,  naturally.  In  the  list  of 
biographies  of  instructors  here  I  find  it  says,  about  Mr.  Hehiier 
Bergman : 

Labor  leader  for  many  years ;  member  of  IBEW  No.  40,  A.  F.  of  L. ;  chairman, 
motion  picture  stewards  council. 

Under  Herbert  Biberman,  it  says : 

B.  S.,  University  of  Pennsylvania ;  attended  Baker's  47  Work  Shop,  Yale 
University.  Credits  in  tlie  motion  picture  industry  as  writer  of  original  stories, 
director,  and  is  now  associate  producer. 

I  find  under  "Val  Burton" : 

Writer-producer  at  Universal. 

He  is  mentioned  as  one  of  the  tetichers  of  screen  writing. 


244  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr,  Mandel.  Mr.  Carlson,  under  "Mr,  Biberman,"  does  it  say  that 
he  ever  took  courses  abroad  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  In  the  1947  folder  it  does  not  say  that,  but  I  think  it 
does  say  that  in  the  1945  folder.  Yes.  They  change  the  statements  a 
little  bit  from  year  to  year, 

I  now  quote  from  the  folder  of  the  Peoples  Educational  Center  for 
the  winter  of  1945,  where  it  says,  about  Herbert  Biberman :  *^ 

Six  months  in  the  U.  S.  S.  R.  studying  the  Soviet  Theater.  Four  years  with 
the  Theater  Guild  in  New  York  as  actor  and  director. 

They  change  the  description  a  little  bit  from  year  to  year. 

There  is  Guy  Endore,  author  of  Babouk,  and  coauthor  of  screen 
play,  GI  Joe,  and  other  things.  Mr.  Endore  has  been  identified  with 
Communist  fronts  in  Los  Angeles  since  I  came  out  there  in  the  spring 
of  19;]5. 

Mr.  Robert  Lees,  it  also  says  here,  has  been  actively  writing  in  the 
motion-picture  industry  for  12  years;  for  the  past  3  years  "has  been 
under  contract  to  Paramount." 

Kenneth  Macgowan,  "Dramatic  critic  from  1910  to  1923 ;  play  pro- 
ducer from  1923  to  1931 ;  motion-picture  producer  since  1932." 

I  find  liere  also  Charles  B.  Millholland  teaching  a  couree  at  this 
school.  He  is  a  screenwriter  and  playright.  It  says  "Adapted  his 
brother's  book  to  the  screen  as  Submarine  Patrol.  Author  of  stage, 
screen,  and  radio  successes,  Twentieth  Century. 

I  find  here  Mr.  Pichel  listed  as  "Motion  Picture  Director.  Has  been 
prominent  for  many  years  in  the  New  York  stage.  Has  been  both  an 
actor  and  director  in  cinema." 

I  find  the  name  Stanley  Rubin,  who  was  one  of  the  men  teaching 
the  screen  writing  course.  It  says  here,  "Has  written  for  Columbia 
Workshop,  been  writing  for  motion  pictures  since  1939.  Produced  at 
Universal.  Now  under  contract  at  Columbia."  And  there  are  many 
others  here. 

Mr.  Mandel.  ]Mr.  Carlson,  would  you  state  concisely  what  you  think 
is  the  object  of  training  in  the  school  you  have  mentioned  ? 

Mr.  Caelson.  Well,  the  Peoples  Educational  Center  is  an  extremely 
effective  organization  for  the  indoctrination  of  large  numbers  of 
people  particularly  in  the  general  Hollywood  area,  tliose  concerned 
and  interested  in  films  and  radio,  with  the  Communist  ideology.  It 
also  serves,  as  the  courses  indicate,  to  prepare  these  people  for  screen 
writing,  radio  writing,  screen  acting,  radio  acting,  play  writing,  and 
the  like. 

In  these  courses  not  only  are  the  general  techniques  of  play  writing, 
screen  writing,  and  radio  writing  developed,  but  from  the  information 
I  have  had  by  word  of  mouth  from  many  people  who  have  gone  to  these 
classes  every  course  also  has  brought  into  it  a  good  deal  of  the  current 
Communist  Party  line,  whatever  that  may  be  at  the  particular 
moment. 

I  have  found  no  evidence  of  anyone  who  is  actively  anti-Communist 
employed  on  the  staff.  There  have  been  several  innocent  people  drawn 
into  the  staff  at  various  times,  specialists  in  many  fields.  Those  who 
got  in,  such  as  Mr.  Dean  McHenry,  of  the  University  of  California 
at  Los  Angeles,  when  he  discovered  he  was  being  used  by  this  move- 

■^  See  appendix,  p.  533,  for  exhibit  56. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  245 

ment,  refused  to  teach  any  further  and  openly  repudiated  the  school 
and  communism. 

Mr,  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  in  your  opinion  how  should  a  Communist 
be  defined? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  I  should  think  that  looking  at  the  situation 
as  it  exists  in  the  world  today  we  have  to  think  in  terms  first  of  the 
Communist  Party  member  who  is  directly  and  organizationally  tied  to 
the  Communist  Party  and  who,  of  course,  is  under  the  very  strict 
discipline  of  that  party  which  functions  virtually  as  a  military  organi- 
zation in  terms  of  structure  and  discipline. 

But  over  and  beyond  this  group  which,  according  to  the  testimony 
of  the  representative  of  the  Central  Committee  of  the  Communist 
Party,  was  slightly  more  than  80,000  at  the  beginning  of  this  year, 
and  which  they  hoped  would  reach  100,000  by  the  end  of  September 
of  this  year — beyond  that  I  should  say  are  those  who  are  pro-Commu- 
nist, that  is,  those  who  are  ready  to  give  first  loyalty  to  the  Soviet 
Union  and  any  of  its  activities,  whether  they  are  done  by  the  Com- 
munist Party,  the  front  organizations,  or  what  have  you. 

Within  this  group,  according  to  Communists  whom  I  have  spoken 
with,  they  feel  they  represent  on  an  average  three  to  four  times  the 
membership  of  the  Communist  Party  itself. 

Then  beyond  that  we  have  those  who  go  along,  the  fellow  travelers 
who  follow  Communist  Party  policy  and  dictation  most  of  the  time, 
but  not  necessarily  all  of  the  time. 

Mr.  Gaston.  To  your  knowledge,  how  does  the  Communist  Party 
function,  Mr.  Carlson  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  think  the  effectiveness  of  the  Communist  Party  is 
determined  by  its  organizational  structure  which  was  developed  orig- 
inally by  Lenin  nearly  40  years  ago.  There  is  a  basic  difference  be- 
tween the  two  divisions.  The  Russian  Social  Democratic  Party  existed 
from  about  1903  to  1905  and  centered  around  the  concept  of  party 
structure.  It  was  Lenin  who  maintained  at  that  time  that  for  effec- 
tive work  the  party  must  be  a  small,  highly  integrated,  highly  disci- 
plined organization  of  professional  revolutionaries — and  he  used  the 
term  "professional  revolutionaries." 

The  Menshevik  faction  felt  they  should  have  a  broader  organization, 
they  should  not  be  as  well  disciplined,  and  should  be  more  or  less  in 
line  with  the  social  democratic  parties. 

Around  this  basic  issue  of  organizational  structure  the  party  split 
and  Lenin's  concept  prevailed.  That  concept  was  carriecl  through 
successfully  in  Russia  and  when  the  Communist  International  was 
established  the  provisos  laid  down,  first  in  the  famous  21  points  of 
the  Communist  International,  and  later  in  a  whole  series  of  special 
directives  and  resolutions  at  various  Congresses,  and  which  were  car- 
ried over  into  the  actions  of  the  various  Communist  parties  of  the 
.^vorld— these  parties  followed  the  pattern  set  down  originally  by 
Lenin.  That  is,  the  party  was  a  small,  highly  disciplined  organiza- 
tion functioning,  in  a  sense,  by  what  Robert  Miner  described  at  one 
time  as  a  "system  of  wheels  within  wheels."  That  is,  they  were  the 
inner  wheel  which  in  turn  turned  and  moved  larger  wheels  or  masses 
of  people  and  organizations  around  them, 

Mr.  McDowell.  The  opposition  to  that  inside  the  Communist 
Party  was  Trotsky  ? 


246  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Carlson.  Not  at  that  time.  I  think  Trotsky  was  in  part  op- 
posed to  it,  but  I  think  his  differences  were  somewhat  different,  on  a 
different  line.  He  came  to  accept  the  Lenin  concept.  No,  they  were 
men  like  Mastov  and  Plekanov,  and  a  group  of  other  names  which 
escape  me  at  the  moment,  which  became  what  was  known  as  the 
Menshevik  group. 

This  party,  this  group,  was  liquidated  by  the  Communists.  We 
have,  living  in  America,  incidentally,  one  of  the  members  of  that  old 
executive  committee  when  the  Bolsheviks  and  Mensheviks  were  still 
united,  Raphael  Abramowitz,  who  was  on  the  purge  list  for  a  long 
time,  and  I  believe  still  is. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Carlson,  I  have  one  more  question.  Not  all 
of  them  were  liquidated.  If  I  recall  correctly,  there  was  one  rather 
minor  figure  in  those  days  named  Andrei  Vishinsky  who  made  the 
grade  finally. 

Mr.  Carlson.  Yes,  that  is  true.  There  were  some  of  them  who 
later  repudiated  by  open  concession  the  error  of  their  ways  and  were 
then  allowed  to  come  into  the  Communist  Party.  Not  only  was 
Vishinsky  one  of  those  men  but  the  nian  who  has  been  chief  editorial 
writer  for  Pravda;  Soflovsky  was  one  of  those  men  who  fought 
bitterly  against  the  Communists  well  up  through  the  early  years  of 
the  Russian  revolution,  and  was  finally  compelled  to  eat  crow.  There 
were  many  of  those. 

Reading  the  proceedings  of  the  Communist  Party  Congi-ess,  you 
notice  how  every  once  in  a  while  these  men  still  have  their  pasts 
dragged  out  and  held  as  a  threat  over  them  to  keep  them  in  line. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  referring  again  to  the  catalog  of  the 
Peoples  Educational  Center,  the  one  of  1947,  in  order  to  get  some  idea 
of  the  complexion  of  the  school  publicizing  these  courses  in  direct- 
ing, acting,  and  so  on,  it  says : 

Thursday,  8 :  30-10  p.  m. :  The  Soviet  Union,  a  new  civilization.  A  seminar 
type  course  which  will  discuss  the  social,  economic,  and  political  structure  of 
the  U.  S.  S.  R.  Topics  to  he  discussed  will  include:  Man  as  a  citizen  of  a 
planned  society — social  security,  health  insurance,  etc. — education — science  in 
Soviet  society — trade  unions  under  socialism — art  and  culture — national  minority 
relationships — the  Soviet  Union  and  the  UNO. 

The  Chairman.  What  is  the  name  of  that  school  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Peoples  Educational  Center. 

Mr.  Mandel.  Mr,  Carlson,  do  you  have  an  additional  list  of  persons 
connected  with  the  motion-picture  industry  who  are  connected  with 
the  Peoples  Educational  Center? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  as  one  goes  through  the  various  catalogs,  which 
is  the  only  place  where  you  can  get  the  authoritative  material,  you 
find  many  other  names  appearing.  For  instance,  in  the  1944  brochure, 
I  see  these  names  as  teachers ;  which  were  not  mentioned  heretofore : 
Morton  Grant,  a  screen  writer;  Thomas  Job.  It  said  he  was  then  a 
screen  writer  at  Warner  Bros.  Michael  Uris,  a  screen  writer; 
Dorothy  Tree,  a  film  actress ;  Leo  Hurwitz,  who  had  been,  and  I  be- 
lieve still  is,  connected  with  the  film  industry;  Earl  Robinson,  well 
known  for  his  songs  and  ballads. 

I  find  that  in  that  year  among  the  teachers  was  a  Mr.  Charles  J. 
Katz,  attorney;  Mr.  Benjamin  Margolis,  attorney;  Mr.  Leo  Gallagher, 
attorney,  and  Mr.  Milton  Tyre,  attorney.  They  were  all  of  the  firm 
of  Gallagher,  Margolis,  and  Katz, 


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Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  why  do  the  Communists  devote  so  much 
time  and  attention  to  gaining  control  and  influence  in  Hollywood,  in 
your  opinion  ? 

Mr.  Caklson.  Well,  as  a  non-Hollywood  or  a  nonscreen  person,  it 
seems  to  me  the  answer  to  that  falls  into  several  questions.  First  of 
all,  the  evidence  is  overwhelming  from  the  writings  and  statements 
of  leading  Connnunists  in  Europe,  Russia,  and  United  States  that  the 
iilm  industry  itself  is  one  of  the  most  ettective  mass  mediums  of 
information.  Since  it  is  necessary  for  Communists  to  try  to  use 
influence,  any  mass  medium  of  information,  that  per  se  would  make 
the  film  industry  a  very  vital  one. 

Secondly,  I  should  say  the  fact  that  screen  personalities  have  at- 
tained an  amazing  public  following — and  I  think  this  has  been  well 
demonstrated  right  here  in  these  hearings  duffing  the  past  few, days 
by  the  way  in  which  large  numbers  of  people  are  anxious  to  hear  and 
to  see  screen  stars.     That  applies  all  over  the  country. 

To  the  Communists  who  want  to  get  as  large  a  hearing  as  they  can 
for  themselves,  and  to  get  their  front  organizations  made  as  respectable 
as  possible,  what  could  be  more  effective  than  to  try  to  inveigle,  in 
some  way  or  another,  various  screen  personalities  to  serve  on  their 
committees  ? 

When  you  have  Katherine  Hepburn  speaking  at  a  front  organization 
for  the  Conmuniists  you  can  be  sure  tliere  will  be  thousands  of  people 
there,  where  there  might  only  be  hundreds  if  the  regular  Communist 
Party  functionaries  appeared.  Whenever  any  of  the  other  screen 
personalities  lend  their  names  or  their  signatures  to  any  organization 
or  cause  which  the  Communists  are  promoting,  it  automatically  makes 
this  cause  seem  more  fashionable  in  the  eyes  of  unsophisticated  people 
all  over.  They  say,  "If  this  big  star  is  for  it  I  guess  it  must  be  all 
right."     That  is  very  natural. 

So,  from  that  point  of  view  they  are  able  to  influence  opinion  by 
merely  using  the  names  of  these  people,  or  having  them  appeal*. 

Then  I  should  say  there  is  a  third  very  important  point,  and  that  is 
the  financial  aspect.  I  do  not  have  to  tell  this  conunittee  that  the 
motion-picture  industry  is  not  exactly  a  sweatshop  industry.  The 
salaries,  even  in  the  trades,  are  probably  the  highest  in  the  country, 
so  when  you  can  win  screen  writers,  screen  actors,  directors,  producers, 
■or  their  wives  or  sisters  or  children  to  support  your  cause,  you  are 
helping  to  open  the  way  for  a  great  deal  of  financial  aid. 

I  might  say  that  Mr.  Jacobson,  as  I  testified  earlier,  told  me  that 
untold  tens  of  thousands  of  dollars  were  collected  through  the  soften- 
ing-up  process  of  his  various  house  meetings  in  Hollywood, 

The  Hollywood  Citizen  News,  a  daily  paper  in  Hollywood,  after 
careful  investigation,  reported  in  an  editorial  a  few  years  ago  that 
they  thought  at  least  $3,000,000  had  been  taken  out  of  Hollywood  up 
to  that  time. 

At  a  meeting  held  very  recently  in  Hollywood  on  one  of  the  large 
front  organizations,  I  believe,  something  like  $87,000  was  collected. 
These  sums  are  absolutely  fabulous.  Here  is  a  treasure  chest  which 
is  important.  "Wliy  worry  about  Moscow's  gold  when  you  can  get 
Hollywood  greenbacks. 

Of  course,  there  is  still  one  other  aspect,  and  I  think  this  has  been 
neglected  up  to  this  point  in  the  hearing.  That  is  the  fact  that  in 
terms  of  the  number  of  people  employed  in  Hollywood,  those  who  are 


248  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

actors,  writers,  producers,  and  directors  represent  only  a  small  mi- 
nority of  the  total  number  employed  in  the  motion-picture  industry. 
The  tens  of  thousands  of  workers  in  the  industry  are  those  who  are 
the  stage  crews,  and  who  do  all  the  other  technical  jobs.  There  they 
struggle  for  the  conquest  of  these  labor  organizations,  to  win  their 
support,  which  is,  of  course,  a  typical  and  long-standing  technique  and 
one  of  their  most  pertinent  objectives — to  win  the  labor  movement. 

This  idea  to  win  economic  control  over  the  trade  unions  in  Holly- 
wood would  be  a  real  feather  in  their  cap  and  could  be  used,  then,  to 
bring  economic  pressure  to  bear  on  the  entire  industry  as  occasion 
would  demand  because  the  Communists  consider  the  trade  unions  to 
be  organs  for  revolutionary  purposes. 

We  need  only  see  what  has  happened  in  France,  Italy,  and  elsewhere 
during  the  past  few  weeks  to  see  that  in  action. 

The  Communists  have  not  succeeded  in  doing  this  in  Hollywood  but 
I  must  say  that  during  the  past  12  years  where  I  have  been  watching 
it  at  first-hand  they  have  certainly  put  up  a  tremendous  struggle  to 
achieve  all  these  objectives. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Do  you  believe  there  is  any  attempt  at  thought  control 
in  the  motion-picture  industry,  and,  if  so,  how  is  it  done  and  by  whom  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  have  been  hearing  a  lot  about  that.  In  fact,  the 
pro-Communists  arranged  a  conference  in  Hollywood  only  a  matter  of 
weeks  ago  which  was  called  a  thought-control  congress.  They  were 
shouting  very  loudly  that  thought  control  was  being  put  over  on  the 
American  people  and  on  the  film  industry  in  particular. 

It  seems  rather  amusing  to  me— sadly  amusing,  in  fact — that  people 
endorse  and  support  the  Communist  Party  line  when  we  know  that  in 
Soviet  Russia  the  films,  the  radio,  the  press,  and  every  other  vehicle 
of  communication  has  been  completely  controlled  by  the  State  and  the 
Communist  Party. 

I  say  when  we  see  that  record  then  to  have  the  Communists  here 
locally  becoming  the  champions  of  freedom  of  thought,  it  is  weird,  to 
say  the  least.  But  that  is  part  of  what  I  would  call  "Communist 
semantics."  They  make  words  fit  the  definitions  which  they  desire, 
and,  consequently,  they  take  on  various  forms. 

But  insofar  as  actual  thought  control  in  Hollywood  is  concerned, 
I  have  seen  none,  except  perhaps  from  the  point  of  view  of  the  pressure 
which  has  been  brousfht  bv  these  verv  same  pro-Communist  elements 
themselves  upon  the  industry.  During  these  last  8  years  I  have  been 
amazed  to  discover  that  outside  of  two  minor  films  which  were  sort  of 
a  sly  take-off  on  communism — Ninotchka  was  one,  and  I  have  forgotten 
the  name  of  the  other. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Was  that  Comrade  X  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Comrade  X,  that  is  right.  Then  there  were  three 
definitely  pro-Soviet  films  w^hich  were  made  during  the  war,  and  I 
can  understand  why  they  were  made.  Russia  was  then  our  ally,  and 
we  certainly  bent  over  backward  to  give  them  everything  they  wanted. 
But  over  and  above  that,  the  important  aspect  of  thought  control  is 
this :  During  all  these  years  when  thousands  of  films  have  been  made 
from  the  point  of  view  of  sheer  drama  I  haven't  seen  a  single  film 
built  around  attempts  of  people  to  escape  from  the  clutches  of  the 
G.  P.  U.,  but  we  certainly  have  had  them  trying  to  escape  from  the 
clutches  of  the  Gestapo. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  249 

We  have  had  lots  of  fihns  dealing?  with  British  imperialism,  French 
imperialism,  Dutch  imperialism,  and  American  imperialism  of  one 
kind  or  another.  I  have  seen  nothing  which  deals  with  Soviet  im- 
perialism. 

We  have  had  a  lot  of  films  about  farmers  in  this  country.  I  have 
seen  no  attempt  by  the  motion-picture  industry  to  tell  the  story  of  how 
several  million  individual  farmers  in  Russia  were  liquidated  outright, 
or  sent  to  concentration  camps,  because  they  tried  to  resist  the  col- 
lectivism program  of  the  Soviet  government. 

I  think  the  thought  control  has  been  all  on  the  other  side.  I  am 
very  sure  as  a  student  of  propaganda  that  propaganda  is  effective  not 
merely  from  what  you  say  but  from  what  you  do  not  say.  By  refus- 
ing to  permit  the  American  people  to  see  in  films  the  true  picture  of 
the  various  things  that  have  been  going  on  in  the  Soviet  Union  it 
has  been  easy  to  keep  that  matter  out  of  discussion. 

Meanwhile,  of  course,  there  have  been  these  many  films  and  I  think 
there  is  a  place  for  them,  films  of  social  conscience,  which  deals  with 
aspects  of  weaknesses  in  our  own  democratic  society. 

One  other  point :  I  believe  that  the  place  of  the  film  is  to  deal  with 
all  aspects  of  life,  not  as  films  of  propaganda  but  as  merely  mirroring 
what  is  happening.  I  think  it  is  high  time  we  call  attention  to  the 
fact  that  a  large  number  of  these  writers  who  have  been  mentioned 
here  today,  yesterday,  and  the  day  before,  and  who  believe  and  ac- 
tively support  and  espouse  the  cause  of  communism  when  they  do 
pictures  pointing  out  the  defects  of  the  American  system,  the  economic 
and  political  system,  I  think  they  come  before  us  with  unclean  hands. 
I  do  not  think  they  are  honest  in  their  criticism. 

They  have  another  objective,  the  purpose  being  not  to  try  to  remedy 
these  things  wdthin  the  framework  which  our  Constitution  and  our 
various  State  laws  provide,  but,  rather,  to  break  the  spirit  of  the 
American  people,  to  make  them  think  the  American  way  of  life  is 
not  good,  that  all  politicians  are  opportunists,  that  businessmen  in 
general  are  corrupt,  that  labor  leaders  who  do  not  follow  the  Com- 
munist line  are  venal  and  stupid  and  agents  of  capitalism,  as  they 
call  it.  These  are  all  part  of  the  general  picture  which  these  men  have 
been  giving.  I  think  that  is  control,  very  definitely.  That  I  am  op- 
posed to,  and  I  think  every  American  is  opposed  to  it. 

Mr.  Mandfx.  Mr.  Carlson,  has  there  been  any  effort  on  the  part  of 
the  Communist  group  in  Hollywood  to  control  the  public  schools  of 
the  community  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  yes;  there  has.  We  have  had  a  very  bad  situ- 
ation in  Hollywood  insofar  as  the  American  Federation  oi  Teachers 
local  is  concerned.  That  has  been  dominated  by  the  Communists  for 
a  period  of  several  years.  I  have  spoken  about  this  matter  with  na- 
tional officers  of  the  American  Federation  of  Teachers  at  various  times, 
and  I  know  they  are  very  much  worried  about  it.  There  are  hun- 
dreds, perhaps  thousands,  of  teachers  who  probably  would  belong  to 
that  organization,  but  many  of  them  have  told  me,  "I  won't  join  the 
American  Federation  of  Teachers  local  in  Los  Angeles  as  long  as  it 
spends  its  time  merely  supporting  Russia  and  denouncing  ever3''thing 
that  America  is,'*  and  doesn't  function  as  a  trade  union  movement. 

Mr.  Mandel.  Mr.  Carlson 


250  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Carlson.  One  other  point.  Miss  LaRue  McCormick,  a  well- 
known  local  Communist,  has  been  running  for  the  board  of  educa- 
tion at  various  times.  In  fact,  she  ran  as  a  Communist  in  the  elec- 
tions in  the  spring  of  this  year,  this  last  April,  to  be  exact.  Running 
as  an  avowed  Communist,  it  may  be  of  interest  to  this  committee  to 
knoAv  that  she  received  a  total  of  24,543  votes  for  member  of  the  board 
of  education  in  the  Los  Angeles  school  district. 

In  1943,  when  she  ran  for  the  same  position,  she  received  only  15,000 
votes.  So  she  had  picked  up  about  9,543  votes  of  people  Avho  were 
definitely  ready  to  support  a  Communist  on  the  board  of  education. 

Mr.  Mandel.  What  is  the  source  of  your  information 

Mr.  McDowell.  Excuse  me.  Do  you  know  how  many  votes  were 
cast? 

Mr.  Carlson.  There  were  about  300,000  or  350,000;  I  don't  remem- 
ber that  figure.  It  was  a  fairly  heavy  vote  for  a  board  of  education 
vote,  which  is  usually  light.  But  it,  of  course,  was  small  compared 
with  the  total  vote  that  is  normally  cast  in  a  national  or  even  a  mu- 
nicipal election  for  mayor.  This  was  a  very  large  vote,  I  should  say. 
It  represented  perhaps  8  or  9  percent  of  the  total  vote  cast  in  that 
election — maybe  more  than  that.  I  could  supply  the  committee  with 
figures.  These  quotations  I  take,  by  the  way,  are  from  the  People's 
Daily  World  of  April  5,  1947.    I  ani  quoting^^ 

Mr.  McDowell.  That  is  a  Communist  paper  ? 

Mr.  Carlson.  That  is  a  Communist  paper  on  the  west  coast,  which 
circulates  very  widely  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Carlson,  can  you  tell  us  a  little  bit  about  the 
strength  of  comnmuism  in  the  labor  organizations  and  cultural  organi- 
zations, as  briefly  as  possible? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  they  function  in  all  of  these  organizations.  So 
far  as  the  Los  Angeles  picture  is  concerned,  I  should  say  the  greatest 
strength  in  the  labor  movement  lies  within  the  CIO.  Mr.  Philip 
Connelly,  the  secretary  of  the  CIO  council,  has  I  think,  at  least  to  my 
satisfaction,  been  proved  to  be  a  Communist,  and  works  with  them 
and  has  for  years.  The  whole  host  of  officials  in  other  unions,  in  the 
CIO  unions,  do  the  same.  The  main  strength  of  the  Communists  in 
the  A.  F.  of  L.  has  been  precisely  in  the  group  of  unions  called  the 
Conference  of  Studio  Unions,  headed  by  Mr.  Herbert  SorrelL  But  I 
think  that  when  Mr.  Brewer  comes  on  the  stand  he  will  probably 
develop  that  at  greater  detail,  in  greater  detail. 

Mr.  Gaston.  In  your  opinion,  Air.  Carlson,  what  is  the  best  method 
available  to  combat  communism  in  the  various  fields? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Well,  it  seems  to  me  that  possibly  it  might  be  well  if 
we  could  devise  a  sort  of  law  comparable  to  the  Pure  Food  and  Drug 
Act,  where  we  label  poison  so  that  people  won't  get  it,  or  adulterated 
foods — making  them  put  the  label  on  it.  I  would  like  to  see  some  sort 
of  a  label  that  had  to  be  put  on  all  types  of  Communist  propaganda — 
point  one.  I  think  if  it  were  labeled  for  what  it  is,  it  would  in  itself 
help  a  great  deal.  I  don't  know  whether  that  can  be  done,  but  I  think 
that  is  a  point  to  bear  in  mind. 

I  think  if  every  issue  of  any  Communist  publication  had  to  carry 
a  notice  in  a  box  in  black  type  stating  "This  organ  is  printed  in  the 
interest  of  communism,"  and  which  seeks  to  destroy  the  American 
form  of  government  and  functions  as  an  agent  of  the  Soviet  Govern- 
ment, it  probably  would  do  a  good  deal  to  stop  some  of  those  things. 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  251 

But  over  and  above  that,  I  think  that  the  strength  of  communism 
lies  in  its  oi-f^anizational  structure.  If  we  can  destroy  the  structure, 
this  thing  which  Lenin  set  up  long  ago,  I  think  then,  while  you  don't 
destroy  Conmiunist  agitation  or  propaganda  in  America — I  don't 
think  you  can  do  that — yoii  can,  I  think,  reduce  it  very,  very  severely. 
From  that  point  of  view  I  believe  that  it  would  be  certainly  a  good 
thing  if  the  Connnunist  Party  itself  were  outlawed.  I  know  this  will 
mean  that  the  Communist  Party  will  function  illegally,  but  it  would 
also  mean  that  thousands  and  tens  of  thousands  of  people  who  now 
sort  of  flutter  along  the  edges  would  withdraw.  It  means  that  Com- 
munist meetings  could  not  take  place  openly,  in  public  halls,  schools, 
and  churches.  It  would  mean  that  we  would  have  destroyed  a  vital 
social  cancer.  I  know  there  is  always  danger  that  innocent  people 
would  be  destroyed  along  with  it,  but  I  think  if  you  have  got  a  cancer 
in  your  system  you  have  got  to  have  an  operation  and  while  there  may 
be  some  good  live  tissue  that  goes  out  with  it,  I  would  rather  take  the 
chance  on  the  oj^eration  so  the  person  can  recover  than  to  have  them 
say  afterward,  "Well,  what  a  handsome  looking  corpse  he  is." 
Mr.  Gaston.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 
The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell  ? 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  have  no  questions,  Mr.  Chairman,  but  I  have 
been  an  amateur  student  of  communism  and  Communist  activity  and 
its  history  for  more  than  20  years,  and  I  doubt  very  seriously  if  any 
witness  that  ever  came  before  this  committee — Mr.  Chairman  and 
Mr,  Vail — has  expressed  such  a  profound  knowledge  of  this  phenomena 
as  Mr.  Carlson. 

There  is  some  great  agitation  in  America  to  do  something  about 
the  immigration  laws,  to  slow  down  immigration.  Something  should 
be  done  to  readjust  those  laws.  But  to  slow  down  or  stop  immigra- 
tion may  stop  future  citizens  like  Mr.  Carlson  from  coming  to  the 
United  States.  I  feel  that  you  have  made  a  great  contribution  to 
your  country.     Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Carlsox.  Well,  thank  you.     May  I  say  I  was  brought  to  this 
country  as  a  baby.     I  didn't  come  here  except  my  parents  brought  me 
over  when  I  was  a  child  in  arms. 
The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Carlson,  have  you  any  knowledge  of  whether  or  not 
the  school  to  which  you  referred  is  an  accredited  school  under  the  GI 
training  provisions? 

Mr.  Carlson.  So  far  as  I  understand,  a  very  serious  attempt  was 
made  to  get  the  Peoples  Educational  Center  accredited.  I  don't  think 
they  were  accredited.  I  know  that  the  equivalent  of  this  school  in 
San  Francisco — the  San  Francisco  Labor  School — at  least  for  a  short 
time  did  succeed  in  getting  Government  money.  I  can't  honestly 
state  that  I  know  whether  the  Peoples  Educational  Center  is  getting 
it  or  not.  But  I  think  that  was  stopped.  If  they  did  get  it  for  a 
short  time;  I  think  it  was  stopped. 

Mr.  Vail.  In  your  opinion,  Mr.  Carlson,  is  this  congressional  in- 
vestigation into  communistic  activities  in  Hollywood  justified? 

Mr.  Carlson.  Xot  only  justified,  but  I  should  think  long  overdue. 
I  think  a  full-scale  airing  of  the  situation  that  we  have  had  out  there 
is  going  to  be  a  very  healthy  thing  for  the  country  and  for  the  whole 
of  the  Hollywood  industry. 


252  COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.^VAiL.  Would  you  consider  tlie  communistic  threut  to  America 
today  a  dangerous  threat? 

Mr.  Carlson.  I  think  it  is  the  most  daner  reporter,  feature  writer,  magazine 
editor.    Now  a  screen  writer,  author  of  2.5  feature  films. 

Viola  Spolin :  Taught  dramatics,  Hull  House,  Chicago,  4  years;  organized  an 
experimental  theater  for  children ;  taught  and  supervised  a  teacher's  training 
course  in  dramatics  for  several  years  at  Recreational  Training  School,  Ciiicago. 

Lory  Titelman :  Attended  Columbia  University  in  New  York  and  Temple  Uni- 
versity, Philadelphia.  Taught  course  for  parents  at  Cooi^erative  Nur.sery 
School  at  Santa  Monica.  Former  director  of  Child  Care  Nursery  School,  Santa 
Monica. 

Frank  Tuttle  :  Noted  motion-picture  director  and  writer. 

Micliael  Uris :  Author  of  such  stories  for  the  screen  as  Happy  Go  Lucky,  I 
Married  a  Soldier,  Listening  Post,  and  the  Life  of  President  Masaryk.  Nine 
years  of  writing  experience  in  pictures. 

Alvin  Wilder:  Noted  radio  commentator. 

Ralph  Winstead :  National  representative.  Industrial  Union  of  Marine  and  Ship- 
building Workers  of  America,  CIO;  investigator.  La  Follette  Senate  Civil 
Liberties  Committee  and  for  NLRB ;  veteran  labor  organizer. 

Leon  Rene  Yankwich,  J.  D.  (Loyola  University.  Los  Angeles),  1926:  LL.  D.,  1929: 
Judge,  Superior  Court  of  Los  Angeles  (^ounty,  1927-3,5 :  .judge,  United  States 
District  Court  of  Southern  District  of  California  since  1935.  Author  of  many 
books  and  articles  on  legal  subjects. 


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Board  of  Directors 

President Willis  J.  Hill 

Vice  President Ralph  Winstead 

Treasurer R.  S.  Avery 

Members 

Fay  E.  Allen  Dorothy  Healey 

K.  S.  Avery  Kenneth  W.  Howard 

Mrs.  Lowell  Bigelow  Maurice  Howard 

Harry  Brown  John  Howard  Lawson 

Dr.  Frank  C.  Davis  Dr.  Dean  E.  McHenry 

Frances  Eisenberg  Bruce  Minton 

Rlrs.  Gertrude  Flatte  C.  T.  Peterson 

Tex  Freeman  Albee  Slade 

Dr.  Sanford  Goldner  William  WolfE 

Frank  Green 

Staff 

Administration  Secretary Mildred  Raskin 

Activities  Director Roberta  Jones 

Director  of  Education Dr.  Frank  C.  Davis 

Director  of  Extension Kenneth  W.  Howard 

Director  of  Recreational  Theater Viola  Spolin 

Pex)ples  Educational  Center 

1717  N.  Vine  St.,  Hollywood  28— HE  7263 
124  W.  4th  St.,  Rm.  486,  Los  Angeles  13— MU  3108 

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PEOPLES  EDUCATIONAL  CENTER 

Winter  1947 

1717  N.  Vine— Hollywood  2S— Phone  HO.  6291 

Board  of  DireJctors 

Willis  J.  Hill,  President 
Fay  E.  Allen  Dorothy  Healey 

Harry  Brown  Maurice  Howard 

Dr.  Frank  C.  Davis  John  Howard  Lawson 

Sidney  Davison  C.  T.  Peterson 

Mrs.  Gertrude  Flatte  Albee  Slade 

Dr.  Sanford  Goldner  William  Wolfe 

Frank  Green 

Sidney  Davison,  Director 
Mildred  Raskin,  Executive  Secretary 

Martha  Dones,  Registrar 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  267 

Advisory  Board 

Helmer  Bergman  Robert  Lees 

Dr.  Leon  Bigelman  Frances  Millington 

Ed  Gilbert  Herbert  Sorrell 

Sandra  Gorney  Frank  Tuttle 

Table  of  Contents 
Foreword. 
Calendar. 
Curriculum : 

The  World  Today 

Psychology 

Film — Radio — Writing 

Languages— Art 

Special  Courses 

Biographies 

Class  Schedules 

Registration 

Foreword. 

Education  of  the  People : 

Because  labor  and  the  Hollywood  community  desire  scientific,  factual 
knowledge  in  the  field  of  social  sciences. 

Because  our  democratic  heritage  of  philosophy,  literature,  and  the  creative 
arts  must  be  preserved. 

Because  the  organization  and  unity  of  labor  and  all  progressive  forces  are 
necessary  for  the  achievement  of  a  democratic  nation  and  world  based  on 
freedom  and  security. 

Education  by  the  People : 

Because  our  instructors  are  working  men  and  women  of  the  Hollywood 
community  who  are  for  the  most  part  practicing  professionals  in  their  fields 
and  who  have  volunteered  their  services. 

Because  they  believe  with  Thomas  Jefferson  that  "to  educate  and  inform  the 
whole  mass  of  the  people  is  the  only  sure  reliance  for  the  preservation  of  our 
liberty." 

Education  for  the  People : 

Because  there  are  no  formal  entrance  requirements.  The  school  is  open  to 
all  regardless  of  race,  creed,  nationality,  or  political  beliefs. 

Because  the  Peoples  Educational  Center  is  a  nonprofit  school  whose  fees  are 
low,  to  meet  the  needs  of  the  average  man  or  woman  who  works  for  a  living. 

Becau.se  the  school's  annual  budget  is  met  partly  by  student  fees,  partly  by 
public  lectures  and  forums,  and  for  the  rest  depends  upon  contributions  from 
people  and  organizations  in  the  community  who  are  in  sympathy  with  its 
purpose  and  program. 

Winter  Term 

caxendar 

Registration  begins  Monday,  Jan.  6, 1947. 
Classes  begin  Monday,  Jan.  20, 1947. 

Entrance  requirements 

There  are  no  formal  entrance  requirements.  The  school  is  open  to  all  regard- 
less of  race,  creed,  nationality,  or  political  beliefs.  All  students  are  required  to 
<:omplete  registration  history  cards. 

Registratioyi 

Registration  will  be  accepted  at  the  Center  between  11  a.  m.  and  S  p.  m.  be- 
ginning Monday,  January  6,  1947,  and  will  continue  until  the  end  of  the  first  week 
of  school.  Register  early  since  most  classes  are  limited  in  size.  Mail  registra- 
tions accompanied  by  tuition  fees  are  acceptable.  Staff  members  will  be  in 
-ittendance  to  advise  prospective  students. 


268  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Auditing 

All  classes  with  the  exception  of  art,  music,  and  lectures  at  the  Screen  Car- 
toonists Hall  may  be  visited  without  cliarge  the  tirst  session  only. 

School  terms 

Classes  will  meet  weekly  for  ten  l^^-hour  sessions.  They  will  be  held  at  the 
Center,  1717  North  Vine  Street,  except  where  otherwise  indicated.  During  1947, 
the  terms  will  begin  as  follows  : 

Winter  term,  January  20,  1947. 

Spring  term,  April  14,  1947. 

Summer  term,  July  14, 1947. 

Fall  term,  October  6,  1947. 

Tuition  fees 

The  regular  fee  for  courses  is  $6  for  the  term  except  where  otherwise  indicated. 
All  fees  are  payable  in  full  at  time  of  registration.  No  fees  are  returnable  unless 
a  course  is  discontinued  by  the  Center.  A  list  of  courses  open  to  individual  ad- 
mission may  be  obtained  from  the  Center. 

Scholarships 

Scholarships  offered  to  union  members  and  members  of  the  armed  forces  must 
be  applied  for  in  writing  to  the  registrar.  College  students,  on  presenting  their 
students  cards,  will  be  accorded  tuition  reductions.  Group  rates  are  available 
to  unions  and  organizations  sending  five  or  more  students  to  the  Center. 

Transfers 

A  fee  of  $1  is  charged  for  a  transfer  of  class.  Transfers  may  not  be  made 
after  the  second  session  or  to  a  class  closed  to  registration. 

The  Student  Council 

The  Student  Council  is  an  independent  organization  of  student  representa- 
tives from  each  class  in  the  school.  Educational  and  social  activities  of  interest 
to  the  student  body  and  to  the  general  public  are  arranged  and  carried  out 
through  the  council.    The  council  publishes  a  student  paper. 

Forums  and  lecture  series 

The  Center  will  conduct  forums  and  arrange  lecture  series  from  time  to 
time  which  will  be  open  to  students  and  the  general  public. 

THE  WORLD  TODAY REVIEW  OF  THE  WEEK 

Economics — Labor  Problems — History 

Sidney  Davison. 

Wednesday  afternoon,  2 :  30-4  p.  m. 

Wednesday  evening,  7-8 :  30  p.  m. 
This  review  of  current  events  will  analyze  the  most  significant  items  in  each 
week's  news,  tracing  their  historical  background  and  discussing  their  meaning 
for  the  future.  Particular  attention  will  be  paid  to  developments  on  the  inter- 
national scene.  Cliief  emphasis  then  will  be  placed  throughout  on  trends  and 
tasks  in  the  labor  and  progressive  movements. 

History  of  American  Labor  Movement 

Milton  Tyre. 

Tuesday,  8 :  30  to  10  p.  m. 
The  current  American  labor  scene.  Status  of  American  trade-unions  with 
emphasis  upon  their  historical  development.  Background  material  and  current 
status  of  unions  and  guilds  in  the  motion-picture  industry.  An  examination  of 
America.  Evolution  of  craft  and  industrial  unionism — forms  and  technics.  The 
position  of  trade-unions  in  the  economy  of  the  country  from  the  beginnings  of 
the  organized  labor  movement  to  the  present  day. 

Labor's  Key  Problems 

Helmer  Bergman,  William  B.  Esterman,  Charles  Gladstone,  Victor  Kaplan, 

Frank  Pestana,  and  others. 
Wednesday,  8 :  30  to  10  p.  m. 
Organized  labor,  though  a  section  of  the  working  class  and  of  the  people,  by 
its  actions  and  achievements  sets  a  pattern  which  affects  all  the  people.     The 
new  problems  labor  is  facing  as -a  result  of  the  1946  elections  are  of  importance 


COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  269^ 

to  all,  whether  they  behwg  to  unions  or  not.  There  are  openly  proclaimed 
plans  to  repeal  or  at  least  amend  the  Wagner  Act,  to  prevent  national  agree- 
ments, and  to  hamper  labor's  legitimate  activities  in  a  multitude  of  ways.  The 
role  of  the  NLKIi.  tiie  imixirt  of  tlie  Norris-LaGuardia  Act,  the  renewed  use  of 
injunctions  in  industi'ial  disputes,  the  police  attacks  against  picket  lines  necessi- 
tate a  reexamination  of  the  economic-political  scene  from  the  workers'  viewpoint. 
This  course  will  analyze  these  key  trends  in  the  labor  scene  today  and  will  also 
discuss  the  shop  steward  system,  strikes  and  strike  strategy,  your  rig] its  as  a 
striker,  what  to  do  when  under  arrest,  etc.  The  lecturers  will  be  drawn  from 
among  shop  stewards,  trade-union  leaders,  and  labor  attorneys. 

Public  Speaking  and  Parliamentary  Laiv 
Wallace  Stark. 
Wednesday,  7  to  8 :  30  p.  m. 
Every  member  of  an  organization  or  trade-union  should  be  able  to  sjx^ak  from 
tlie  floor,  deliver  a  talk  or  report,  and  act  as  chaii'man  of  a  discussion  or  meeting. 
This  course  will  help  the  student  do  a  better  job  of  siJeaking  before  groups  of 
people.     It  will  be  a  practical  course,  based  on  the  needs  of  the  students.     Indi- 
vidual  practice  and    criticism   will   be  given.     Main   aspects   of  parliamentary 
proceic  of  family  and  domestic  relations. 

Minna  Agins:  Born  in  the  Ukraine,  lived  and  received  early  education  in  the 
Far  East.  Attended  Columbia  University ;  B.  A.  from  Cornell  University. 
Has  lectured  widely  on  the  Soviet  Union. 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  277 

Helen  Alcalay:  Advertising  as'eiicy  copy  writer.  Has  written  food,  fashion,, 
cosmetic,  automotive,  drug,  soap,  cleanseu,  and  used-car  copy.  liesponsible 
for  some  of  tlie  most  infuriating  singing  commercials  on  the  air — but  don't 
admit  which  ones. 

George  Beller :  Accountant,  auditor,  and  business  manager. 

Helmer  W.  Bergman :  Labor  leader  for  many  years ;  member  of  IBEW-40 
A.  F.  of  L. ;  chairman.  Motion  Picture  Stewards  Council. 

Herbert  Biberman:  B.  S.,  University  of  Pennsylvania.  Attended  Baker's  47 
workshop,  Yale  University.  Credits  in  the  motion-picture  industry  as  writer 
of  original  stories,  director,  and  is  now  associate  producer. 

Leo  Bigelman,  M.  D. :  Teacher  and  lecturer  on  social,  economic,  and  political 
questions.  Formerly  associated  with  the  Workers  School  of  Los  Angeles  and 
numerous  public  forums. 

Val  Burton :  Writer-producer  at  Universal.  Among  his  screen  credits  are : 
Lord  JelT,  On  Their  Own,  the  entire  Henry  Aldrich  series.  Glamor  Boy,  True 
to  the  Army,  Passport  to  Adventure. 

Hugh  Campbell :  M.  A.,  Berkeley.     Has  taught  English  for  several  years. 

Joseph  Chabot:  Runner-up  in  the  1936  Chaloner  prize  competition  in  Paris  and 
has  received  numerous  prizes  in  other  contests.  Worked  for  three  years  with 
the  Red  Cross  rehabilitation  program. 

Emma  Lou  Davis :  Sculptor-painter.  Made  several  large  sculptures  for  Federal 
Section  of  Fine  Arts:  resident  artist  at  Reed  College  for  three  years.  Repre- 
sentee! in  Whitney  Museum  in  New  York.  Now  designing  and  manufacturing 
lamps,  toys,  and  furniture. 

Sidney  Davison :  Director  of  the  Peoples  Educational  Center ;  B.  A.,  College 
of  the  City  of  New  York ;  has  taught  and  lectured  on  social  subjects  for  a 
period  of  years.     Was  in  the  United  States  Navy  for  four  years. 

Frank  C.  Davis :  Ph.  D.,  University  of  California  1931.  Department  of 
psychology  at  University  of  California  at  Los  Angeles  1931-45.  Former  di- 
rector of  education.  Peoples  Educational  Center.  Currently  in  private  prac- 
tice as  a  consulting  psychologist. 

Guy  Endore:  Author  of  Babouk,  The  Sword  of  God,  The  Known  and  Unknown 
Lives  of  Cassanova ;  translator  of  several  foreign  classics.  Contributor  of 
articles  and  short  stories  to  national  publications.  Coauthor  of  screen  play 
G.  I.  Joe.     Author  of  best  seller  Methinks  the  Lady. 

Neil  Enochs:  Director  of  /research,  Chinese-American  Bureau  of  Research. 
Former  editor  of  Los  Angeles  Chine.se  Review.  Authority  on  colonial  affairs ; 
former  newspaperman,  lecturer,  and  writer.  Work  in  progress ;  Indian 
Policy — a  History  of  United  States  Indian-White  Relations. 

William  B.  lilsterman  :  Labor  attorney,  member  of  law  firm  of  Pestana  &  Ester- 
man  :  attorney  for  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

Vocha  Fiske:  Has  taught  radio  technics  at  University  of  California,  Berkeley; 
University  of  California  nt  Los  Angeles  summer  sessions;  and  Los  Angeles 
City  College;  1946  instructor  for  A.  F.  R.  A.'s  veteran  refresher  course. 

Hugo  Friedhofer ;  Been  composing  and  arranging  for  major  studios  since  the 
inception  of  sound.  Has  been  orchestrator  for  Steiner  and  Korngold.  Re- 
ceived the  1945-46  best  film  score  award  from  National  Film  Music  Council 
for  score  of  Bandit  of  Sherwood  Forest. 

Ted  Gilien :  Formerly  combat  artist,  United  States  Army,  covering  Southwest 
Pacific,  Philippines,  and  Japan ;  painted  Government  murals :  studied  at  Na- 
tional Academy  of  Art  and  Art  Students  League,  New  York.  Exhibiting  at 
American  Contemporary  Gallery. 

Elliott  Grennard  :  Has  played  piano  professionally  in  bands,  member  of  ASCAP ; 
articles  on  jazz  in  Music  'ind  Rhythm,  PM,  and  New  Masses;  for  three  years 
was  music  editor  and  critic  of  Billboard.  Now  writing  fiction  and  is  taking 
time  out  for  book  on  jazz — its  main  points  will  furnish  basis  of  his  lecture 
series. 

"Victor  Kaplan :  Labor  attorney,  member  of  law  firm  of  Katz,  Gallagher,  and 
Margolis. 

Herbert  Klynn :  Cartoonist  at  present  time.  Commercial  artists ;  had  own 
advertising  agency. 

Robert  T^es :  Has  been  actively  writing  in  motion  picture  industry  for  12  years. 
For  the  past  3  years  has  been  luuler  contract  to  Paramount.  Latest  credit: 
Abbott  and  Costello,  Buck  Privates  CV»me  Home. 


:278  COMMUNISM  in  motion  picture  industry 

Marjorie  Leonard  :  B.  A.  from  U.  C.  L.  A. ;  graduate  work  at  University  of  Berlin 
and  Stanford  University  ;  studied  psyclioanalysis  at  Institute  of  Psychoanalysis, 
Berlin.  Former  director  of  tlie  Child  Study  Center  of  Los  Angeles.  Psychol- 
ogist and  ijsychoanalyst  .specializing  in  work  with  children. 

Kenneth  AlacGowan :  Dramatic  critic  from  1910  to  1923 ;  play  producer  from 
1923  to  1931;  motion-picture  producer  since  1932.  Screen  ci'edits  include: 
Easy  Come  Easy  Go,  Life  Boat,  Happy  Lands,  In  Old  Chicago,  and  Little 
Woman.    Head  of  theater  arts  department  at  U.  C.  L.  A. 

'Gladys  xMagy :  B.  A.,  Oberlin  College;  M.  A.  in  Spanish  from  N.  Y.  U.  Worked 
in  OfHce  of  Inter-American  Affairs. 

Rose  N.  Marshall :  University  of  Michigan ;  M.  S.  W.  from  Smith  College  School 
of  Social  Work.  Twelve  years'  experience  in  New  York  and  in  military  hos- 
pitals as  therapist  with  both  children  and  adults.  Currently  in  private  prac- 
tice as  an  adult  and  child  therapist. 

Alice  Miles :  Had  own  secretarial  school  in  Santa  Barbara.  Has  taught  own 
adaptation  of  Gregg  shorthand  in  public  schools  and  for  the  Army  and  Navy 
during  the  war. 

■Charles  B.  IMillholland  :  His  play  about  Tolstoi,  The  Green  Stick,  won  a  prize; 
acted  lead  in  own  play  about  Nijinsky,  Faun,  at  Indianapolis  Civic  Theater. 
Adapted  his  brother's  book  to  the  screen  as  Submarine  Patrol.  Author  of 
stage,  screen,  and  radio  success.  Twentieth  Century. 

Freda  Minowitz :  Taught  for  Hillel  Foundation  in  New  York.  Was  on  faculty 
of  Yiddish  Scientific  Institute  and  member  of  Jewish  Education  Committee  of 
New  I'ork. 

Laurence  Morton :  Has  done  orchestrating  for  major  studios  and  radio  net- 
works. Music  critic  for  Script  magazine.  Correspondent  for  Modern  Music. 
Has  had  articles  in  Hollywood  Quarterly. 

Louis  Quinn  :  Radio  writer  for  Radio  Hall  of  Fame  and  Orson  Welles.  Two  years 
of  writing  and  directing  for  Blue  Network,  in  Hollywood. 

Paquerette  Pathe:  Dancer  and  dancing  teacher;  was  with  Jooss  Ballet.  Has 
taught  in  Los  Angeles  for  many  years.  Established  own  ceramics  studio  and 
factory  2  years  ago. 

Prank  Pestana  :  Labor  attorney,  senior  member  of  law  firm  of  Pestana  and  Ester- 
man  :  attorney  for  the  C.  S.  U. 

Irvin  Pichel :  Motion-picture  director.  Has  been  prominent  for  many  years  in  the 
New  York  stage.  Has  been  both  an  actor  and  director  in  cinema.  Recently 
directed  the  Bride  Wore  Boots. 

Stanley  Rubin :  Has  written  for  Columbia  Workshop,  been  writing  for  motion 
pictures  since  1939.  Has  iri  credits  for  originals  and  screen  plays.  Wrote, 
directed,  and  produced  Army  films.  Produced  at  Universal.  Now  under  con- 
tract at  Columbia. 

Mildred  Raskin:  Executive  secretary.  Peoples  Educational  Center. 

Lillya  Sabsay :  Born  in  the  Crimea  ;  has  taught  private  classes  in  Russian ;  a 
commercial  artist  at  the  present  time. 

John  Sanford :  Graduated  from  DeWitt  Clinton  High  School  in  New  York ;  LL.  B. 
from  Fordham  University :  practiced  law  in  New  York  for  a  number  of  years. 
Author  of  following  novels :  The  Waterwheel,  the  Old  Man's  Place,  Seventy 
Times  Seven,  the  People  From  Heaven. 

Leon  Saulter:  Has  been  a  sculptor  for  15  years.  Shows  in  American  Con- 
temporary Gallery,  L.  A.  County  Museum,  and  other  local  galleries. 

Wilma  Shore:  Short  stories  published  in  Story,  New  Masses,  McCall's,  Accent, 
and  Good  Housekeeping.      Represented  in  O'Brien's  Best  Short  Stories  of  1941. 

Michael  Simmons :  Former  newspaper  reporter,  feature  writer,  magazine  editor. 
Now  a  screen  \vriter  :  author  of  25  feature  films. 

IMoi  Solotaroff :  Artist,  stnge  designer,  teacher,  and  lecturer.  Was  director  of  the 
Group  Collective,  New  York. 

Prank  Thomas:  INIa.iored  in  sociology  and  chemistry  at  Temple  University.  Has 
taught  and  lectured  on  social  subjects. 

Milton  Tyre:  Labor  attorney,  member  of  law  firm  of  Katz,  Gallagher,  and  INIar- 
golis. 


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CLASS   SCHE»UU:S,    WINTER    194  7 


Monday : 
7-8 :  30 : 


What  Is  Philosophy? 

Basic  Journalism. 

Office  Organization  and  Mimeographing. 

Radio  Speech  Technics. 

Dance,  Advanced. 
8 :  30-10 : 

Screen  Writing  II. 

Creative  Writing. 

School  Age  Child. 

Dance  I. 
7  :  45-9  :  45 : 

Shorthand. 
8-10: 

Beginning  Drawing. 

Portraiture. 
Tuesday : 
7-8 :  30 : 

Jewish  People  Yesterday  and  Today. 

Radio  Comedy  Writing. 

Political  Economy  I. 
8 :  30-10. 

Political  Economy  II. 

Short  Story. 

History  of  American  Labor. 

Motion  Pictures. 
Screen  Writing  III. 

Illusion  and  Reality. 
7  :  45-9 :  45  : 

Shorthand. 
8-10: 

Still  Life  and  Pictorial. 

Composition. 

Portraiture. 
8-9 :  30 : 

Music  as  Communication. 
Wednesday : 
7-8 :  80 : 

Development  of  Society. 

Review  of  the  Week. 

Public  Speaking. 
8 :  30-10 : 

Political  Economy  III. 

China — India — Colonial  World. 

Labor's  Key  Problems. 
8-10: 

Life  Class. 
2 : 30-4 : 

Review  of  the  Week. 
Thursday  : 
8:30-10: 

Yiddish. 

Screen  Writing  I 

Russian  II. 

Spanish  II. 
7 :  30-8  :  30 : 

The  Soviet  Union — a  New  Civilization. 

Marriage  in  Today's  World. 

Motion-PictiU'e  Direction. 

Russian  I. 

Spanish  I. 
7 : 45-9 :45 : 

Shorthand. 


280  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

CLASS  SCHEDULES,  WINTER  194  7 — Continued 

Friday : 

7-8 :  30 : 

Art — Yesterday  and  Today. 
Psychology  of  Everyday, 
Living. 
Piiivwriting. 
8 : 30-10 : 

Advertising  Copywritlng. 
Medical    Science. 
Facts  and  Fallacies. 
Modern  Novel. 

What  Is  This  Thing  Called  Jazz. 
Saturday : 

10  a.  m.-12  m. : 
Ceramics. 
I  hereby  enroll  for  courses  in 
Name : 
Miss 
Mrs. 
Mr. 
Address : 
City: 
Zone : 
Phone : 
Occupation : 
Affiliations : 

I  learned  of  the  center  through — 
Advertising : 
Circular: 
Friend : 

I  am  a  former  student  of  PEC . 

I  am  enclosing  a  check  or  money  order  for  $— — - — . 


(Layout  and  typography  by  Paul  Levine) 

The  Chairman.  We  stand  recessed  now  until  2  o'clock, 
(Whereupon,  at  12 :  25  p.  m.,  the  hearing  was  recessed  until  2  p.  m. 
of  the  same  day.) 

AFTERNOON  SESSION 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order. 

Mr.  Stripling,  the  first  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr,  Walt  Disney  is  the  first  witness,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Disney,  will  you  stand  and  fJiise  your  right 
hand  ? 

Do  3^ou  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  shall 
bo  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mr.  Disney.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  WALTER  E.  DISNEY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr,  Disney,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  pres- 
ent address,  please? 

Mr.  Disney.  Walter  E.  Disney,  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Disney? 

Mr.  Disney.  Chicago,  111.,  December  5,  1901. 

Mr,  Stripling.  December  5,  1901  ? 


COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  281 

Mr.  Disney.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Wluit  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  DiSNF.Y.  Well,  I  am  a  pi-oducer  of  motion-picture  cartoons. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  interrogation  of  Mr.  Disney 
will  be  done  by  Mr.  Smith. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Smith. 

Mr.  Smith.  Mr.  Disney,  how  long  have  you  been  in  that  business? 

Mr.  Disney.  Since  1920. 

Mr.  Smith.  You  have  been  in  Hollywood  during  this  time? 

]Mr.  Disney.  I  have  been  in  Hollywood  since  1923. 

Mr.  Smith.  At  the  jn-esent  time  you  own  and  operate  the  Walt  Dis- 
ney Studio  at  Burbank,  Calif.? 

Mr.  Disney.  Well,  I  am  one  of  the  owners.     Part  owner. 

Mr.  Smith.  How  many  people  are  employed  there,  approximately? 

Mr.  Disney.  At  the  present  time  about  600. 

Mr.  Smith.  And  what  is  the  approximate  largest  number  of  em- 
ployees you  have  had  in  the  studio  ? 

Mr.  Disney.  Well,  close  to  1,400  at  times. 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  tell  us  a  little  about  the  nature  of  this  par- 
ticular studio,  the  type  of  pictures  you  make,  and  approximately 
how  many  per  year? 

Mr.  Disney. 'Well,  mainly  cartoon  films.  We  make  about  20  short 
subjects,  and  about  2  features  a  year. 

Mr.  Smith.  Will  you  talk  jiist  a  little  louder,  Mr.  Disney? 

Mr.  Disney.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Smith.  How  many,  did  you  say  ? 

Mr.  Disney.  About  20  short  subject  cartoons  and  about  2  features 
per  year. 

Ml-.  Smith.  And  some  of  the  characters  in  the  films  consist  of 

Mr.  Disney.  You  mean  such  as  Mickey  Mouse  and  Donald  Duck  and 
Snow  White  and  the  Seven  Dwarfs,  and  things  of  that  sort. 

Mr.  Smith.  Where  are  these  films  distributed  ? 

Mr.  Disney.  All  over  the  world. 

Mr.  Smith.  In  all  countries  of  the  world  ? 

Mr.  Disney.  Well,  except  the  Russian  countries. 

Mr.  Smith.  Why  aren't  they  distributed  in -Russia,  Mr.  Disney? 

Mr.  Disney.  Well,  we  can't  do  business  with  them. 

Mr.  Smith.  What  do  you  mean  by  that? 

Mr.  Disney.  Oh,  well,  we  have  sold  them  some  films  a  good  many 
years  ago.  They  bought  the  Three  Little  Pigs  and  used  it  through 
Russia.  And  tliey  looked  at  a  lot  of  our  pictures,  and  I  think  they 
ran  a  lot  of  them  in  Russia,  but  then  turned  them  back  to  us  and  said 
they  didn't  want  them,  they  didn't  suit  their  purposes. 

Mr.  Smith.  Is  the  dialogue  in  these  films  translated  into  the  various 
foreign  languages 

Mi\  Disney.  Yes.  On  one  film  we  did  10  foreign  versions.  That 
was  Snow  White  and  the  Seven  Dwarfs. 

Mr.  Smith.  Have  j'OU  ever  made  any  pictures  in  your  studio  that 
contained  propaganda  and  that  were  propaganda  films? 

Mr.  Disney.  Well,  during  the  war  we  did.  We  made  quite  a  few — 
working  with  different  Government  agencies.  We  did  one  for  the 
Treasury  on  taxes  and  I  did  four  anti-Hitler  films.  And  I  did  one 
on  my  own  for  Air  Power. 


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Mr.  Smith,  From  those  pictures  that  you  made  have  you  any  opin- 
ion as  to  whether  or  not  the  films  can  be  used  effectively  to  disseminate 
propauted  to  Soviet  Russia  Today,  according  to  the  issue 
of  the  publication  for  March  1935,  page  9.     The  same  publication  of  September 


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1939,  pase  25,  listed  Mr.  Lawson  as  one  of  the  signers  of  an  Open  Letter 
for  Closer  Cooperation  with  the  Soviet  Union.  The  publication  for  November 
1937,  page  79,  records  the  name  of  Mr.  Lawson  as  one  of  tlie  signers  of  a  Golden 
Book  of  American  Soviet  Friendship. 

12.  The  American  Council  on  Soviet  Relations  has  been  cited  by  Attorney 
General  Francis  Biddle  as  a  Communist  front  (Congressional  Record,  Septem- 
ber 24,  1942,  p.  7688)  and  has  received  the  same  citation  from  the  Special  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  on  Mar  29,  1942.  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Special 
Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940  characterized  the  organization 
as  under  Communist  control,  influence,  or  in  collaboration  with  the  Communist 
Party.  One  of  the  signers  of  an  open  letter  sent  to  the  president  of  the  American 
Council  on  Soviet  Relations  was  John  Howard  Lawson,  according  to  an  official 
folder  of  the  council. 

13.  Many  Communist-front  organizations  which  supported  Soviet  foreign  policy 
were  backed  l>y  John  Howard  Lawson.  .The  American  League  Against  War  and 
Fa'scism  was  active  in  support  of  Soviet  foreign  policy  against  the  democracies 
between  1932  and  1937.  It  has  been  cited  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  as  an  or- 
ganization seeking  "to  create  public  sentiment  on  behalf  of  a  foreign  policy 
adapted  to  the  interests  of  the  Soviet  Union"  (Congressional  Record,  Septem- 
ber 24,  1942).  The  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  has  cited  this 
organization  as  subversive  on  January  3,  1940,  and  March  29,  1944.  The  Daily 
Worker  for  June  27,  1934,  page  1,  reveals  that  Mr.  Lawson  was  a  speaker  at  a 
were  backed  by  John  Howard  Lawson.  The  American  League  Against  War  and 
Fascism.  Mr.  Lawson  was  a  sponsor  of  the  New  York  City  Conference  Against 
War  and  Fascism,  which  was  organized  by  the  American  League  Against  War 
and  Fascism,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker  for  January  11,  1937,  page  2.  Mr. 
Lawson  has  also  contributed  to  Fight,  the  official  publication  of  the  American 
League  Against  War  and  Fascism,  according  to  as  issue  of  Fight  for  October 
1934,  page  3.    The  league  was  dedicated  to  an  openly  treasonable  program. 

14.  When  the  Communist  line  changed  in  favor  of  a  united  front  of  the  democra- 
cies against  the  Fascist  aggressors,  the  Communists  in  America  formed  a  successor 
to  the  American  League  Against  War. and  Fascism  in  1937,  known  as  the  American 
League  for  Peace  and  Democracy.  The  theatrical  subsidiary  of  the  American 
League  for  Peace  and  Democracy  was  the  Theatre  Arts  Committee,  which  was 
cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Free- 
dom in  April  1940.  The  Theatre  Arts  Committee  was  also  affiliated  with  the 
League  of  Workers  Theatres,  a  section  of  the  International  Union  of  the  Revolu- 
tionary Theatre  with  headquarters  in  Moscow.  John  Howard  Lawson  was  a 
member  of  the  advisory  council  of  the  Theatre  Arts  Committee,  according  to  an 
undated  letterhead  of  the  organization. 

15.  After  the  Stalin-Hitler  Pact  was  signed  in  1939,  the  Communists  estab- 
lished the  American  Peace  Mobilization,  which  opposed  lend-lease,  aid  to  Britain, 
the  defense  program,  and  picketed  the  White  House.  It  also  supported  a  number 
of  strikes  in  defense  industries.  The  organization  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist 
front  by  the  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle,  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities,  and  tlie  California  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 
An  official  program  listed  John  Howard  Lawson  as  a  sponsor  of  a  meeting  held 
by  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  in  New  York  City  on  April  5  and  0,  1941. 

16.  Among  the  new  Communist  fronts  that  sprang  up  when  the  Soviet  Union 
and  the  United  States  were  allies  in  a  war  against  fascism  was  the  Artists'  Front 
to  Win  the  War,  which  made  its  debut  at  a  ma.ss  meeting  at  Carnegie  Hall  in 
New  York  City  on  October  16,  1942.  The  organization  was  cited  as  a  Communist 
front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944. 
The  official  program  for  the  mass  meeting  at  Carnegie  Hall  listed  John  Howard 
Lawson  as  one  of  the  sponsors.  Thus,  Mr.  Lawson  has  publicly  avowed  his  al- 
legiance to  the  line  of  the  Communist  Party  during  four  distinctly  divergent 
periods. 

17.  At  the  Seventh  World  Congress  of  the  Communist  International,  held  in 
Moscow  in  1935,  George  Dimitroff,  general  secretary,  called  upon  all  affiliated 
Communist  parties  to  make  the  greatest  efforts  in  behalf  of  the  campaign  of  the 
Spanish  Communists  during  Spain's  civil  war.  A  number  of  pro.iects  were  organ- 
ized by  American  Communists  in  response  to  this  request.  Among  them  were 
the  Medical  Bureau  and  North  American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy, 
cited  as  subversive  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on 
April  21,  1943,  and  March  29,  1944,  and  the  American  Society  for  Technical  Aid 
to  Spanish  Democracy,  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.     John  Howard  Lawson  served  as 


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secretary  and  as  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors  of  the  American  Society  for 
Technical  Aid  to  Spanish  Democracy,  according  to  the  issues  of  New  Masses  for 
February  1(5,  1937,  page  28,  January  19,  1937,  page  25,  January  26,  1937,  page  32, 
and  an  organizational  letterliead  dated  February  19,  1937.  Mr.  Lawson  was  one 
of  the  patrons  of  a  benefit  performance  and  dance  sponsored  by  the  Manhattan 
chapter  of  the  Medical  Bureau  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy,  according  to  an  un- 
dated announcement  of  the  dance,  held  May  22,  1937.  On  a  letterhead  dated 
April  29,  1939,  the  Medical  Bureau  and  North  American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish 
Democracy  announced  that  Mr.  Lawson  was  a  member  of  its  theater-arts 
committee. 

18.  The  American  Committee  to  Save  Refugees  was  part  of  the  Communist  cam- 
paign for  Spanish  Communists  anil  was  cited  as  a  Commiuiist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  The  organiza- 
tion provided  transportation  and  support  for  international  Communist  agents 
such  as  Gerhart  Eisler.  John  Howard  Lawson  was  the  signer  of  a  statement 
siionsored  by  the  American  Connnittee  to  Save  Refugees,  according  to  an  undated 
leaflet  of  the  organization  entitled  "For  the  Rescue  of  Refugees." 

19.  The  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  likewise  is  engaged  in  providing 
transportation  and  support  for  international  Communist  agents  like  Gerhart 
Eisler.  It  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  It  was  cited  for  contempt  of  Congress 
on  April  16.  1946,  and  its  leaders  were  convicted  in  a  Federal  court  on  June  27, 
1947.  John  Howard  Lawson  was  one  of  the  sponsors  of  a  dinner  held  by  the 
Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  in  New  York  on  October  27,  1943,  according 
to  a  dinner  program. 

20.  The  League  of  American  Writers  was  an  affiliate  of  the  International  Union 
of  Revolutionary  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  and  the  league  was 
pledged  to  the  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  the  use  of  "art  as  an  instrument 
of  the  class  struggle."  This  organization  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by 
the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  January  3,  1940,  June  25, 
1M2,  and  March  29,  1944.  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle  said  that  "The  overt 
activities  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  in  the  last  2  years  leave  little  doubt 
of  its  Communist  control"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942,  p.  7686). 
The  league  was  founded  at  a  Congress  of  American  Revolutionary  Writers  held 
April  26  through  28,  1935  in  New  York  City.  The  Daily  Worker  for  January  18, 
1935,  page  5,  reveals  that  John  Howard  Lawson  was  one  of  the  signers  of  the 
call  for  this  Congress  of  American  Revolutionary  Writers.  The  Daily  Worker 
for  April  29.  1935,  pages  1  and  2.  further  revealed  that  Mr.  Lawson  presented  a 
reading  of  Technique  in  the  Drama  at  this  writers'  congress.  Mr.  Lawson  was 
listed  as  a  member  of  the  executive  committee  of  the  League  of  American  Writers 
in  the  Dally  Worker  for  April  30.  1935,  and  as  vice  president  of  the  League  of 
American  Writers  in  New  Masses  for  June  17,  1941,  page  10.  and  the  Daily 
Worker  for  September  14,  1942,  page  7.  A  statement  sponsored  by  the  league 
in  behalf  of  a  second  front  was  signed  by  Mr.  Lawson  according  to  the  Daily 
Worker  for  September  14,  1942,  page  7.  A  statement  signed  by  John  Howard 
Lawson  appears  on  page  67  of  a  league  pamphlet  entitled  "We  Hold  These  Truths." 
Mr.  Lawson  was  a  signer  of  the  call  to  the  second  biennial  meeting  of  the  League 
of  American  Writers,  according  to  New  Masses  for  May  4,  1937,  page  25.  Mr. 
Lawson  signed  the  call  for  the  third  congress,  also,  according  to  the  magazine. 
Direction,  for  May-.June  19.39.  page  1.  Mr.  Lawson  signed  the  call  for  and  also 
attended  the  fourth  congress  of  the  league  which  was  held  in  New  York  June  6 
through  June  8,  1941,  according  to  New  Masses  for  June  17,  1941,  pages  9-10,  and 
for  April  22,  1941,  page  25. 

21.  The  League  of  American  Writers  operated  a  writers'  school  at  1717  North 
Vine  Street  in  Hollywood.  The  People's  World  for  February  11,  1943.  page  5, 
listed  Mr.  Lawson  as  a  lecturer  at  the  writers'  school. 

22.  At  this  same  time,  the  Communists  were  operating  a  Los  Angeles  workers' 
school.  Eva  Shafran.  a  Communist  organizer,  was  the  director,  and  La  Rue 
McCormick.  who  was  a  candidate  for  California  State  senator  on  the  Communist 
Party  ticket,  served  on  the  board  of  directors.  According  to  official  literature 
of  the  school.  John  Howard  Lawson  taught  at  the  Los  Angeles  workers'  school 
in  1943.  1&44.  and  1945. 

23.  The  People's  Educational  Center  in  Los  Angeles  also  was  Communist- 
directed.  It  was  started  in  the  fall  of  1943  with  a  loan  of  .$1,000  from  the  writers' 
school  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  and  it  received  a  rather  complete 
Communist  library  from  the  Los  Angeles  workers'  school.     The  People's  Educa- 

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tional  Center  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist-front  organization  by  the  joint  fact- 
finding committee  on  un-American  activities  of  tlie  California  Legislature  and 
records  show  that  numerous  members  of  the  faculty  and  staff  of  the  People's 
Educational  Center  were  card-holding  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  among 
them  Carl  Winters,  Eva  Shafran,  Mildren  Raskin,  and  Bruce  Minton.  A  booklet 
announcing  the  curriculum  of  the  center  for  the  winter  of  1947  lists  John  Howard 
Lawson  as  a  member  of  tlie  board  of  directors  of  the  People's  Educational 
Center.  Also  leaflet  America's  lOtli  Alan  lists  John  Howard  Lawson  as  a  lecturer 
for  a  series  starting  September  20,  1944. 

24.  The  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  was  the  name  given  to  the  Holly- 
wood League  of  American  Writers  after  the  League  of  American  Writers  could 
no  longer  conceal  its  Communist  domination.  The  original  pledge  of  the  League 
of  American  Writers  to  defend  the  Soviet  Union  and  to  use  "art  as  an  instru- 
ment of  the  class  struggle"  is  now  the  basis  upon  which  the  policies  of  the  Hully- 
wood  Writers  JMobilizarion  are  founded.  John  Howard  Lawson  is  a  member  of 
the  editorial  board  of  the  Hollywood  Quarterly,  a  publication  sponsored  by  the 
Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization,  according  to  the  1947  report  of  the  California 
State  legislative  committee  investigating  un-American  activities  (p.  107).  The 
Hollywood  Citizen  News  for  January  13,  1947.  lists  John  Howard  Lawson  as  the" 
proposer  of  a  plan  adopted  by  the  Hollywood  Writers  ^lobilization  to  set  up  a 
committee  to  investigate  any  investigators  of  Communist  influence  in  the  movie 
industry. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Wait  a  minute.  Read  that  again.  I  didn't  get 
tliat  last  statement. 

Mr.  Gaston  (reading)  : 

The  Hollywood  Citizen  News  for  January  13,  1947,  lists  John  Howard  Lawson 
as  the  proposer  of  a  plan  adopted  by  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  to  set 
up  a  committee  to  investigate  any  investigators  of  Communist  influence  in  the 
movie  industry.  Mr.  Lawson  presented  the  plan  at  a  meeting  of  the  mobiliza- 
tion on  January  12,  1947,  in  the  El  Patio  Theater  in  Hollywood,  the  newspaper 
reported.  Mr.  Lawson  also  served  on  the  general  committee  in  charge  of  a 
writers'-  congress  held  by  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  at  the  University 
of  California  at  Los  Angeles  October  1  through  3,  1943,  according  to  an  ofiicial 
program  of  the  congress. 

25.  Book  Union,  Inc.,  is  a  Communist  book-of-the-month  club,  which  was 
launched  at  the  initiative  of  International  Publishers,  a  Communist  publishing 
house.  The  Book  Union  was  closely  associated  with  the  League  of  American 
Writers  and  was  cited  for  Communist  character  by  the  Special  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  on  Marcb  29,  1944,  and  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Com- 
mittee for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.  John  Howard  Lawson  is  listed  as 
a  member  of  the  advisory  council  of  the  Book  Union  in  an'  undated  letterhead  of 
the  organization.  The  letter  offered  members  the  book,  Soviet.  Communism : 
A  New  Civilization? 

26.  The  American  Youth  for  Democracy  is  the  oflicial  successor  of  the  Young 
Communist  League.  It  has  been  the  sub.iect  of  a  report  by  the  House  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  which  described  its  character  in  detail.  Its  "sinis- 
ter purposes"  have  been  denounced  by  the  director  of  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation  (Congressional  Record,  Mar.  24,  1947,  p.  A1298).  John  Howard 
Lawson  is  listed  as  a  national  sponsor  of  the  American  Youth  for  Democracy 
in  the  organization's  publication,  the  Spotlight,  for  April  1944,  page  19. 

27.  The  New  Theatre  was  the  official  monthly  magazine  of  the  League  of 
Workers  Theatres,  a  section  of  the  International  Union  of  Revolutionary  Theatre, 
with  headquarters  in  Moscow.  The  league  was  used  to  present  Communist 
propoganda  plays  and  to  raise  funds  for  Communist  purposes.  The  magazine 
was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  March  29.  1944.  John  Howard  Lawson  contributed  to  the  New 
Theatre  of  June  1935.  page  10.  and  he  is  listed  as  a  contributing  editor  in  the 
issues  for  February  1934,  page  3,  and  Novemb'^r  19^14,  page  11. 

28.  The  New  Theatre  League  was  a  successor  of  the  League  of  Workers 
Theatres.  It  was  formed  in  January  1935  and  was  cited  for  its  Communist  char- 
acter by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944, 
and  by  Prof.  .Tohn  Dewey's  Committee  f.  During  the  entire  period  from  1038  until  1913,  when  Mr.  Cheyfitz  re- 
signed h's  union  office  and  enlisted  in  the  United  States  Army,  not  a  single  hour's 
work  was  lost  by  any  of  our  emp'oyees  because  of  labor  disputes.  Our  negotia- 
tions and  grievance  procedure  was  carried  on  in  a  thoroughly  dignified  manner 
with  beneficial  results  both  for  the  company  and  its  employees. 

I  particularly  wish  to  emphasize  the  fact  that  the  Doehler  Co.  began  to  make 
■war  materials  early  in  1940  and  prior  to  Pearl  Harbor.     Mr.  Cheyfitz  as  repre- 


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sentative  of  the  union  and  I,  as  representative  of  the  company,  had  a  number  of 
occasions  to  go  to  Washington  and  confer  with  our  Government  agencies  in  an 
effort  to  speed  up  production  of  war  materiais. 

The  Doehler  Die  Casting  Co.  received  one  of  the  first  Navy  "E"  Awards  which 
was  granted  to  our  company  on  December  31,  1941,  only  a  few  days  after 
Pearl  Harbor.  It  is  evident  that  the  Doehler  Co.  must  have  done  an  outstanding 
job  on  war  production  wel,!  before  Pearl  Harbor  in  order  to  receive  tliis 
recognition. 

During  the  entire  war,  the  Doehler  Co.  produced  9,336  different  parts  for  the 
Army  and  Navy.  These  parts  served  practically  all  of  the  Government  arsenals 
and  some  2,000  industrial  plants.  Our  ability  to  produce  these  parts  in  quantities 
without  loss  of  a  single  hour  of  production  time  could  only  have  been  made  pos- 
sible by  the  full  cooperation  of  our  employees  under  the  constructive  leadership 
of  Mr.  Cheyfitz. 

Should  you  desire  any  further  information,  please  do  not  hesitate  to  call 
on  me. 

Very  truly  yours, 

Doeht,er-.Tarvis  Corp., 
Charles  Pack,  Vice  President. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Johnston 

Mv.  Johnston.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Johnston,  the  dates  are  on  them? 

Mr.  Johnston.  All  of  them ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  believe  you  stated  Mr.  Cheyfitz  accompanied  Mr. 
Byrnes  to  Los  Ano.  May  I,  if  the  Chair  please,  I  am  not  going  to  make 
a  speech.  I  simply  have  evidence  from  responsible  people  as  to  the 
nature  of  my  work.  1  have  20  scripts  which  I  propose  and  wish  to 
introduce  into  the  record  so  that  it  may  be  known  what  my  work  is, 
and  what  this  committee  may  seek  to  prevent  the  American  people 
from  seeing  in  the  futui'e. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman 

The  Chairman.  Now,  don't  make  a  statement  like  that.  That  is 
not  correct. 

May  I  ask  how  long  one  of  these  scripts  may  be? 
Mr.  Trumbo.  I  am  sorry  to  say  that  they  average  from  115  to  IGO  or 
170  pages,  with  very  few  of  them  of  the  latter  type. 

The  Chairman.  And  how  many  do  you  want  to  put  in  the  record? 
Mr.  Trumbo.  I  have  20.    They  are  not  quite  all  that  I  have  written. 

The  Chairman.  I  think  the  Chair  will  have  to  rule 

Mr.  Trumbo.  But,  sir 


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The  Chairman.  Tliey  are  too  long- 


Mr.  Trumbo,  My  "work  has  been  under  attack. 

The  Chairman.  Too  many  pages, 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Then  may  1  introduce  into  evidence  statements  of 
responsible  people  concerning  my  work  ? 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  you  let  the  investigator  ask  his  questions, 
and  then  you  answer  them  the  best  you  can. 

Mr.  Stru'Ling.  I  will  be  glad  to  cover  all  of  your  works,  Mr. 
Trumbo. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  realize  that,  but  yesterday  a  man's  work  was  covered 
after  he  had  left  the  stand.    I  should  like  to  discuss  my  work  now. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  Mr.  Trumbo,  I  will  repeat  the  question :  Are 
3'ou  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  shall  answer  that  question  in  just  a  moment.  I  want 
only  to  protest  the  fact  that  I  have  been  denied  the  right  to  introduce 
evidence,  to  introduce  statements  of  General  Arnold,  of  juvenile  court 
judges,  of  the  head  of  the  Motion  Picture  Division  of  the  UNRRA,  of 
the  Naval  Chaplain  in  charge  of  motion-picture  projects  for  the 
United  States  Navy.  These  I  consider  pertinent.  And  with  that 
protest,  I  shall  go  to  your  question. 

JNIr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 
/  Mr.  Trumbo.  Mr.  Stripling,  the  rights  of  American  labor  to  in- 
/  violably  secret  membership  lists  have  been  won  in  this  country  by  a 
I  great  cost  of  blood  and  a  great  cost  in  terms  of  hunger.  These  rights 
i  have  become  an  American  tradition.  Over  the  Voice  of  America  we 
have  broadcast  to  the  entire  world  the  freedom  of  our  labor. 

The  Chairman.  Are  you  answering  the  question  or  are  3-011  making 
another  speech  ? 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Sir,  I  am  truly  answering  the  question. 

The  Chairman.  Because  if  you  want  to  make  another  speech  we 
can  find  a  corner  right  up  here  where  you  can  make  some  of  these 
speeches. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  would  be  willing  to  do  that,  too. 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  now,  what  was  the  question,  Mr. 
Stripling? 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  question,  Mr.  Chairman,  is — I  asked  Mr. 
Trumbo  if  he  is  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  You  asked  me  a  question  which  would  permit  you  to 
haul  eveiy  union  member  in  the  United  States  up  here  to  identify 
himself  as  a  union  member,  to  subject  him  to  future  intimidation  and 
coercion.  This,  I  believe,  is  an  unconstitutional  question. 
/  The  Chairman.  Now,  are  you  making  another  speech,  or  is  that 
the  answer  ? 

Mr.  Trumbo.  This  is  my  answer,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  can't  you  answer :  Are  you  a  member  of  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild,  by  saying  "Yes"  or  "No,"  or  I  think  so,  or 
maybe,  or  something  like  that? 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  should  like  to  accommodate  you. 
May  I  try  to  answer  the  question  again  ? 

The  Chairman.  Well,  we  would  certainly  like  to  have  you  accom- 
modate us. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  If  there  were  a  committee  of  Congress,  all  the  mem- 
bers of  which  had  voted  in  favor  of  the  Taft-Hartley  bill 

Mr.  McDowell.  Oh,  that  isn't  answering  the  question. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  333 

(The  chairman  poiindin<:^  gavel.) 

Mr.  TiiuMBO.  It  might  be  considered  that  committee  was  hostile  to 
labor. 

The  CiiAiRMAX  (pounding  gavel).    Now,  Mr.  Trumbo 

Mr.  McDowell.  It  is  no  disgrace,  you  know,  to  identify  yourself 
as  a  member  of  a  labor  union  in  the  United  States.  Most  of  us 
belong  to  something. 

The  Chairman.  Now  the  question  is,  Mr.  Trumbo :  Are  you  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Tru:mbo.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  not  consider  it  a  disgrace  to 
be  a  member  of  a  labor  union. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Of  course  he  wouldn't. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  But  labor  unions  have  the  right  to  secrecy  of  their 
membership  lists. 

The  Chairman.  I  am  getting  back  to  the  question:  Are  you  a 
member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ^ 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Mr.  Chairman,  this  question  is  designed  to  a  specific 
purpose.    First 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Do  you- 


Mr.  Trumbo.  First,  to  identify  me  with  the  Screen  Writers  Guild ; 
secondly,  to  seek  to  identify  me  with  the  Communist  Party  and} 
thereby  destroy  that  guild 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Are  you  refusing  to  answer  the 
questions  ? 

Mr.  TrL'Mbo.  I  will  refuse  to  answer  none  of  your  questions,  sir. 

The  Chair3Ian.  Well,  you  are  refusing  to  ansAver  this  question, 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  am,  indeed,  not  refusing  to  answer  the  question. 

The  Chairman.  I  will  ask  you  the  question 

]\rr.  Trumbo.  You  ask  me. 

The  Chairman.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  repeat 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Excuse  the  witness 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  Chairman 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Am  I  excused? 

Mr.  Strh'ling.  I  have  more  questions 

Mr.  Trumbo.  Am  I  excused,  or  not  ? 

The  Chairman.  No  ;  just  a  minute.    The  chief  investigator  wants  to 
ask  some  questions. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment.    I  have  some  other  questions,  Mr. 
Trumbo,  that  I  would  like  to  ask  3^ou. 

Are  you  now,  or  have  vou  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

]\Ir.  Trumbo.  Mr.  Chairman,  first  I  should  like  to  know  w^hether  the 
quality  of  my  last  answer  was  acceptable,  since  I  am  still  on  the  stand? 

The  Chairman.  This  hasn't  got  anything  to  do  with  your  answer 
to  the  last  question. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  see. 

The  Chairman.  This  is  a  new  question,  now. 

^Ir.  Trumbo.  I  see. 

Mr.  Stripling,  you  must  have  some  reason  for  asking  this  ques- 
tion  


Mr.  ISIcDowell,  Yes,  we  do, 
Mr.  Trumbo.  You  do. 


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334  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

I  understand  that  members  of  the  press  have  been  given  an  alleged 
Comnuinist  l^art}'  card  belonging  to  me — is  that  true  ^ 

Mr.  Striplixg.  That  is  not  true. 

Tlie  Chairman.  You  are  not  asking  the  question 

Mr.  Trumbo.  I  was. 

The  Chairman.  The  chief  investigator  is  asking  the  questions. 

INIr.  Trumbo.  I  beg  your  pai'don,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Are  you  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the 
Connnunist  Party? 

I  Mr.  Trumfo.  I  believe  I  have  the  right  to  be  confronted  with  any 
evidence  which  supports  this  question.  I  should  like  to  see  what  you 
have. 

The  Chairman.  Oh.    Well,  you  would ! 

]Mr.  Trumbo.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  you  will,  pretty  soon. 

(Laughter  and  applause.) 

The  Chaikman   (pounding  gavel).  The  witness  is  excused.     Im- 
possibl*^. 

Mr.  Trumbo.  This  is  the  beginning 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Just  a  minute- 


Mr.  Trumbo.  Of  an  American  concentration  camp. 

The  Chairman.  This  is  typical  Communist  tactics.  This  is  typical 
Communist  tactics.    [Pounding  gavel.] 

(Applause.) 

The  Chairman.  Now,  there  will  be  no  demonstration  from  the 
persons  in  the  audience.  People  in  the  audience  are  the  guests  of  this 
committee.  This  is  a  congressional  committee  and  we  must  maintain 
order.     Those  standing  up  or  walking  around  will  please  sit  down. 

Mr.  Stripling,  put  on  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  place  into  the  record 
the  affiliations  of  Mr.  Trumbo  with  the  Communist  Party. 

The  Chairman.  Louder,  please. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Which  have  been  compiled  by  the  investigative  and 
research  staff  of  the  Committee  on  L^n-American  Activities. 

I  should  also  like  to  place  a  witness  on  the  stand  to  introduce  the 
Communist  registration  card  of  Mr.  Trumbo. 

Do  I  have  permission  to  read  this  memorandum  ? 

The  Chairman.  How  many  pages  are  there? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Like  in  the  case  of  Mr.  Lawson,  Mr.  Cliairman,  it 
is  nine  pages  long. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling,  will  j-ou  come  up  here,  please  for 
a  minute. 

( Mr.  Stripling  confers  with  the  chairman.) 

The  ('iiAiRMAN.  All  right,  Mr.  Stri]:)ling,  you  read  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  before  I  read  this  memorandum,  I 
would  like  to  refer  to  an  article  which  appeared  in  the  Hollywood 
RciDorter,  which  is  one  of  the  important  trade  papers  of  the  motion- 
picture  industry,  under  date  of  August  2,  lOl^,"^^  in  which  they  state: 

The  reporter  herein  now  asks  Trumbo  to  answer  these  qnestions :  Are  you  a 
Communist?  Is  your  party  name  or  alias  Hal  C'onser?  Are  you  a  member  of 
group  3,  branch  A.  of  the  American  Connnunist  Party?  Are  you  the  holder  of 
Communist  Bool?  No.  36802? 

So  far  as  we  have  been  able  to  determine,  Mr.  Trumbo  has  never 
answered  that  challenge  from  the  Hollywood  Reporter. 

^'  See  appendix,  p.  539,  for  exhibit  66. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  335 

According  to  the  International  Motion  Picture  Almanac  and  other 
sources  available  to  this  committee,  Dalton  Trumbo  was  the  writer 
of  the  following  films — there  is  a  long  list  of  films  here,  Mr.  Chair- 
man, and  I  won't  read  those  unless  it  is  desired. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  it  is  so  ordered. 

Mr.  SxRirLiNG.  I  would  like  to  point  out,  however,  that  Mr.  Trumbo 
is  the  author  of  Tender  Comrade,  about  which  Mrs.  Lela  Kogers 
testilied.  '"       — — 

(The  lilms  are  as  follows :) 

Love  Begins  at  20,  Everybody  Cheer,  Tugboat  Princess  (Columbia),  Tiie 
Devil's  Playground  (Columbia,  1937),  Fugitives  for  a  Night  (RKO,  1038), 
A  Man  to  Remember  (RKO,  1938),  Sorority  House  (RKO,  1939),  The  Flying 
Irishman  (RKO.  1939),  Five  Came  Back  (RIvO,  1939),  Career  (RKO,  1939), 
The  Kid  From  Kokomo  (First  National,  1939),  Heaven  With  a  Barbed-Wire 
Fence  (Twentieth  Centry-Fox,  1939),  A  Bill  of  Divorcement  (RKO,  1940), 
Curtain  Call  (RKO,  1940),  Kitty  Foyle  (RKO,  1940).  We  Wlio  Are  Y.mng 
(RKO),  1940),  The  Widow  Wouldn't  Weep  (Paramount  1940),  Accent  on  Love 
(Twentieth  Century-Fox  1941),  A  Guy  Named  Joe  (ISI-G-M.  1943),  Thirty  Sec- 
onds Over  Tokyo,  Tender  Comrade  (RKO,  1943),  Jealousy  (Republic,  1945),  Our 
Vinp^TIave  Tender  Grapes  (M-G-M,  1945). 

jNIr.  SxRirLiNG.  According  to  Variety  of  March  14,  1941,  page  2, 
Dalton  Trumbo  was  the  author  of  Remarkable  Andrew,  which  was  so 
anti-British  and  anti-war  that  Paramount  refused  to  continue  with  the 
picture  after  paying  $27,000  for  it.  That  was  written  during  the 
period  of  the  Soviet-Nazi  pact. 

The  files,  records,  and  publications  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activ- 
ities contain  the  following  information  concerning  the  Communist-front  affilia- 
tions of  Dalton  Trumbo : 

1.  According  to  the  Hollywood  Reporter,  August  22,  1946,  Well-known  trade 
publication  of  the  motion-picture  industry,  Dalton  Trumbo  was  aslvcd  if  he  was 
the  holder  of  Communist  Party  Book  No.  36802.  The  committee  liiiows  of  no 
denial  by  M)-.  Trumbo  of  this  fact.  He  has,  however,  openly  endor.sed  Com- 
munist candidates,  Communist  legal  defendants,  and  has  openly  cooperated  with 
the  Communist  legal  defendants,  and  has  openly  cooperated  with  tlie  Com- 
munist Party  and  its  instruments.  According  to  the  Los  Angeles  Times  of 
November  2,  1942,  Mr.  Trunilw  endorsed  Mrs.  La  Rue  McCormick,  Communist 
candidate  for  State  senator.  In  a  speech  quoted  in  the  Worlver  of  June  22,  1947, 
page  11  (magazine),  IMr.  Trumbo  is  quoted  as  follows: 

And  the  defense  of  the  rights  of  the  Communist  Party,  and  of  all  real  or 
alleged  Communists,  is  the  duty  not  only  of  liberals  and  progressives,  but  all 
men  and  women  who  have  love  for  their  country  and  respect  for  its  Constitution. 

At  an  official  meeting  of  the  Communist  Party  featuring  as  its  chief  speaker, 
William  Z.  Foster,  party  chairman,  the  poem.  Confessional,  by  Dalton  Trumbo, 
was  presented,  according  to  the  People's  World  of  September  10,  1947,  page  4. 

Mr,  Chairman,  would  it  be  agreeable  if  a  member  of  my  staff  read 
this  memorandum  ? 

The  Chairman.  Yes ;  that  is  agreeable. 
INIr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Gaston. 
Mr.  Gaston  (reading)  : 

No.  2.  In  April  1940,  during  the  period  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact  when  the 
Communist  Party  was  actively  denouncing  President  Roosevelt  as  a  warmonger, 
and  agitating  against  lend-lea.se  and  the  defense  program,  the  Daily  Worker 
published  in  serial  form  Dalton  Trumbo's  antiwar  story  entitled  "Johnny  Got 
His  Gun."  This  book  was  widely  sold  at  all  Connmniist  Party  book  s-h(  ps  and 
also  extensively  circulated  at  meetings  of  the  American  Peace^  M  ibilization.  A 
synopsis  of  this  story  appeared  in  the  People's  World  of  :\Iay  22,  1940,  p;ige  8. 
The  story  also  appeared  serially  in  the  Daily  Worker  of  April  1910.  Both  of 
these  papers  are  official  Connnunist  Party  organ:zitions.  Mr.  Trumbo  has  been 
a  contributor  to  the  New  Masses.  otHcial  Connnunist  Party  weekly  magazine, 
according  to  its  issues  of  April  15,  1941,  page  13,  and  September  20,  1944,  page  28. 


336  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  New  Masses  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  periodical  by  Attorney  General 
Biddle,  according  to  the  Congressional  Record  of  September  24,  1942.  It  has 
been  cited  as  a  Communist  magazine  by  the  Special  Connnittee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  June  24,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.  According  to  the  People's  World 
of  July  16,  1943,  Mr.  Trumbo  was  a  member  of  a  committee  to  sell  paintings  at  an 
auction  for  the  benefit  of  the  New  Masses,  which  was  held  in  Hollywood.  Main- 
stream is  a  Communist  quarterly  magazine  specializing  in  the  literary  field.  It 
is  being  actively  promoted  by  the  ofiiciul  Comnuinist  press  at  the  present  time. 
Mr.  Trumbo  is  listed  in  the  winter  1947  issue  of  Mainstream  as  a  memljer  of  its 
editorial  board.  It  should  bo  noted  in  this  connection  that  it  has  been  a  long- 
standing practice  for  Communist  publications  to  utilize  only  Communists  as  staff 
members  and  frequent  coutvibutors. 

3.  Mr.  Trumbo  has  made  it  a  practice  to  appear  in  defense  of  Ccmnnunist 
cases.  He  defended  Harry  Bridges,  according  to  the  Los  Angeles  Examiner 
of  May  25,  1941.  Bridges  was  cited  as  a  meml)er  of  the  Communist  Party 
by  the  Daily  Worker,  the  oflicial  Communist  organ.  Mr.  Trumbo  was  at  a  testi- 
monial dinner  in  behalf  of  Harry  Bridges  at  Park  IManor  Hotel,  Los  Angeles, 
on  April  12,  1941.  according  to  the  San  Diego  Labor  Union  Weekly  of  April 
18,  1941.  Jesus  Hernandez  Tomas,  a  leading  Spanish  Comnuuiist,  was  barred 
from  entry  to  this  country  l)y  the  State  Department.  Dalton  Trumbo  enlisted 
in  his  defense,  according  to  the  People's  World  of  November  30,  1943.  Mr. 
Truml)o  was  also  the  author  of  a  pamphlet  entitled  "Harry  Bridges,"  which 
was  written  fgr  defense  purposes.  According  to  the  New  York  Times  of  De- 
cember 22,  1943,  page  40,  Mr.  Trumbo  was  a  signer  of  a  declaration  issued  by 
the  so-called  Reichstag  Fire  Trial  Anniversary  Committee  honoring  George 
Dimitrov,  former  general  secretary  of  the  Communist  International. 

4.  The  American  Peace  Crusade  was  organized  by  the  American  Peace  Mo- 
bilization. Attorney  General  Biddle  has  stated  that :  "The  most  conspicuous 
activity  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  was  the  picketing  of  the  White 
House,  which  began  in  April  1941,  in  protest  against  lend-lease  and  the  entire 
national  defense  program.  *  *  *  On  the  afternoon  of  June  21,  1941,  he 
(Frederick  V.  Field,  national  secretary)  suddenly  called  off  the  picket  line 
around  the  AVhite  House"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942).  Mr. 
Trumbo  was  a  speaker  at  a  mass  meeting  held  under  the  auspices  of  the  American 
Peace  Crusade  on  April  6,  1940,  according  to  the  New  Masses  of  August  6,  1940, 
page  22.  He  was  a  speaker  at  a  Peace  rally  at  the  Los  Angeles  Olympic  Audi- 
torium on  April  6,  1940.  He  was  also  a  speaker  for  the  American  Peace  Mobili- 
zation at  the  Shrine  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles  on  February  24,  1941.  Mr. 
Trumbo  was  the  author  of  a  skit  which  was  presented  at  a  meeting  of  the 
American  Peace  Mobilization  in  Los  Angeles  on  February  24,  1941. 

5.  The  International  Workers  Order  has  been  cited  by  Attorney  General 
Biddle  as  "one  of  the  strongest  Communist  organizations"  (Congressional  Rec- 
ord, September  24,  1942).  This  organization  has  consistently  supported  Com- 
munist candidates,  the  Communist  press  and  Communist  campaigns.  It  was 
cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  LTn-American  Activities 
on  January  3,  1940,  and  June  25,  1942.  According  to  the  People's  World  of 
May  28,  1943,  page  3,  Mr.  Trumbo  was  a  speaker  for  the  International  Workers 
Order. 

6.  The  American  Youth  for  Democracy  according  to  the  official  statements  of 
its  leaders,  was  formerly  the  Young  Communist  League.  On  April  17,  1947, 
the  Comnuttee  on  Un-American  Activities  issued  a  report  on  the  American 
Youth  for  Democracy  in  which  it  called  upon  the  governors  or  legislatures  of  the 
various  States  and  the  administrative  heads  of  the  colleges  and  universities 
"to  t'horoughly  expose  the  Communist  connections  of  the  American  Youth  for 
Democracy  as  well  as  the  inimical  objectives  of  the  Communist  Party  in  America." 
The  Congressional  Record  of  March  24,  1947,  page  A-1298.  contains  a  state- 
ment made  l)y  the  Honorable  J.  Edgar  Hoover,  Director  of  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation,  in  which  he  spoke  of  tlie  American  Youth  for  Democracy  as  the  or- 
ganization "which  conceals  the  evils  and  the  corruption  of  American  communism. 
This  namp  is  but  a  new  one  for  the  former  Young  Communist  I>eague.  It  i-eflects 
all  the  sinister  purposes  of  the  Comnuuiist  Party  of  the  United  States.  It 
emplo.vs  the  same  techniques  and  has  the  same  objectives,  namely  the  conver- 
sion of  our  haven  of  libeity  and  freedom  to  worship  as  we  choose  to  a  godless, 
totalitarian  state  where  the  adversaries  of  democracy  can  do  as  they  please." 
The  American  Youth  for  Democracy  was  also  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of  March  29,  1944. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  337 

According:  to  the  letterhoad  of  the  American  Youth  for  Democi-acy  for  December 
1,  1944.  Dalton  Trumbo  was  a  sponsor. 

7.  The  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  is  engaged  in  providing  transpor- 
tation and  support  for  international  Communist  agents  such  as  Gerhart  Eisler. 
The  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  was  cited  for  contempt  of  Congress 
on  A])ril  IG,  194ti,  and  its  members  were  convicted  in  a  Federal  court  on  June 
27,  ]!)47.  According  to  a  letterhead  dated  February  2(J,  194<),  i.ssued  l>y  the 
Spanisli  Refugee  Appeal  of  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee,  Mr.  Trumbo 
was  a  national  sponsor.  Mr.  Trumbo  is  also  listed  as  a  sponsor  of  a  dinner 
held  by  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  at  the  Hotel  Astor  in  New 
Yorlv  City  on  October  27,  194;>,  according  to  its  printed  invitation. 

8.  The  National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties  hils  been  cited  by  Attor- 
ney General  Biddle  as  part  of  the  "Comnumist  solar  sy.stem''  and  he  stated  that 
"The  defense  of  Communist  leaders  such  as  Sam  Darcy  and  Robert  Wood,  party 
secretaries  for  Pennsylvania  and  Oklahoma,  have  been  major  etforts  of  the 
federation"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942).  This  organization  has 
been  cited  as  a  Conmiunist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  June  25,  1944,  and  March  29,  1944.  Mr.  Trumbo  signed  an  open 
letter  published  by  the  National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties  under 
the  title  of  '•(iOO  Prominent  Americans." 

9.  The  Sleepy  Lagoon  Defen.se  Committee  was  an  auxiliary  of  the  Interna- 
tional Labor  Defense,  properly  termed  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  as  the  "legal 
arm  of  the  Communist  Party."  According  to  a  letterhead  of  this  Defense  Com- 
mittee, dated  August  9,  1944,  Mr.  Trumbo  was  a  sponsor. 

10.  The  League  of  American  Writers  was  the  American  aftlliate  of  the  Inter- 
national Union  of  Revolutionary  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow.  It  has 
been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activi- 
ties on  January  3,  1940,  June  25,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.  It  has  also  been  cited 
as  under  Communist  auspices  l)y  Attorney  General  Biddle  in  the  Congressional 
Record  of  September  24,  1942.  The  organization  has  been  pledged  to  the  defense 
of  the  Soviet  Union  and  "use  of  art  as  an  instrument  of  the  class  struggle."  The 
Daily  Worker  of  September  5,  1940,  page  7,  lists  Mr.  Trumbo  as  a  member  of 
the  League  of  American  Writers.  The  League  of  American  Writers  held  a 
conference  in  Hollywood  on  June  20-21,  1942.  According  to  the  People's  World 
of  June  10,  1942,  June  17,  1942,  Mr.  Trumbo  was  head  of  one  of  its  speaker's 
panels.  According  to  People's  World  of  March  31,  1943,  page  5,  Mr.  Trumbo 
lectured  at  a  conference  sponsored  liy  the  West  Coast  Chapter  of  the  League 
of  American  Writers,  during  the  summer  of  1942  in  Hollywood.  He  was  also 
a  contributor  to  a  magazine  called  Clipper  published  by  the  League  of  American 
Writers. 

11.  The  Writers  Congress  held  on  October  1,  2,  3,  1943,  was  sponsored  by  the 
Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization,  successor  to  the  Hollywood  Branch  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers,  which  has  been  cited  as  a  Conununist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  and  by  Attorney  General  Biddle 
and  the  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom,  headed  by  Prof.  John  Dewey.  Mr. 
Trumbo  was  an  active  participant  in  one  of  the  panels  of  the  Writers  Congress, 
according  to  tlie  Peojile's  World  of  October  13,  1943.  page  5. 

12.  The  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  previously  known  as  the  Hollywood 
Chapter  of  the  League  of  American  Writers,  arranged  a  series  of  forums  at  the 
El  Patio  Theater  in  Hollywood,  beginning  Dt-ceniber  2,  1946.  Mr.  Trumbo  was 
a  speaker  at  these  forums. 

13.  The  Hollywood  Forum  was  held  under  the  auspices  of  the  Daily  People's 
World,  oflicial  west  coast  organ  of  the  Comnmnist  Party,  according  to  the  Daily 
Worker  of  April  15,  194G,  page  11.  Mr.  Trumbo  was  a  speaker  at  a  forum  meet- 
ing held  on  April  9,  1946. 

14.  The  Hollywood  Democratic  Committee  was  the  successor  to  the  Hollywood 
Anti-Nazi  League  which  was  organized  by  Isaac  Romaine,  alias  V.  J.  Jerome, 
member  of  the  Central  Committee  of  the  Coiumunist  Party.  The  Hollywood 
Anti-Nazi  League  dissolved  during  the  time  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact.  According 
to  the  People's  World  of  August  3.  1943,  page  38,  Mr.  Trumbo  made  a  collection 
speech  in  behalf  of  the  Hollywood  Democratic  Committee. 

15.  The  INIotion  Picture  Democratic  Committee  was  cited  as  a  Communist 
front  by  the  California  Joint  Fact-Finding  Committee  on  Un-American  Activ- 
ities in  the  1943  report,  and  by  the  House  Conunittee  on  Un-American  Activities 
on  September  2,  1947.  Melvin  Douglas  and  Philip  Dunne  resigned  from  the  ex- 
ecutive board  on  the  Motion  Picture  Democratic  Conmiittee  because  of  its  Com- 
munist control.     According  to  the  bulletin  of  the  Motion  Picture  Democratic 


338  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Coiumitt(>e,  dated  March  26,  3940,  Mr.  Trnmbo  was  a  speaker  at  its  meeting  held 
on  April  H,  ]!)40.  Ilis  siilijpct  was  "America  Declares  Peace."  This  meeting  was 
held  during  the  period  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact. 

16.  According  to  the  Dail.v  Worker  of  October  7,  1942,  page  7,  Mr.  Trumbo 
was  a  sponsor  of  the  Artists'  Front  to  Win  the  War.  The  Artists"  Front  to 
Win  the  War  was  an  organization  which  supported  the  then  current  Com- 
munist demand  for  a  second  front.  Many  of  its  sponsors  were  writers  for 
the  ConuMunist  press  who  had  opposed  the  war  during  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact, 
such  as  AJvah  Bessie,  Angelo  Hei-ndon.  Alfreil  Kreyniborg,  Albert  Maltz, 
and  Ruth  McKenney.  On  September  14,  1942,  a  meeting  was  held  by  the 
so-called  Citizens  for  Victory  Committee  at  the  Philharmonic  Auditorium  in 
Los  Angeles.  Mi'.  Trumbo  was  the  author  of  a  six-page  article  entitled  "An 
Open  Letter  to  American  People,"  which  was  distributed  at  this  meeting,  urging 
the  readers  to  petition  and  wire  the  President  for  the  .opening  of  a  second  front. 

17.  Another  ('(nnmunist  promoted  enterprise  was  the  so-called  Council  for 
Civic  Unity.  The  People's  World,  official  west  coast  Communist  organ  for  April 
28,  1944,  mentioned  that  Dalton  Trumbo  made  a  collection  speech  for  this  organ- 
ization which  netted  $3,000.  A  similar  group,  known  as  the  Academic  and  Civil 
Rights  Council,  mentions  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  speaker  in  the  People's  World  of 
January  2,  1041.  Affiliated  with  the  Council  for  Civic  Unity  were  the  follow- 
ing Communist  groups :  American  Youth  for  Democracy,  formerly  known  as  the 
Young  Comnmnist  League;  Morning  Freiheit  Association,  supporting  the  Morn- 
ing Freiheit,  Yiddish  organ  of  the  Communist  Party;  the  International  Work- 
ers Order  and  other  organizations. 

18.  Paul  Robeson,  who  has  a  long  record  of  Communist  affiliations,  was  the 
moving  spirit  in  what  was  known  as  American  Crusade  to  End  Lynching  which 
organized  a  pilgrimage  to  Washington,  D.  C,  for  September  23,  1946.  This  ven- 
ture was  actively  sujtported  by  the  Communist  press.  ]\Ir.  Trumbo  was  a  signer 
of  the  call  for  tliis  pilgrimage,  which  was  another  example  of  Communist  efforts 
to  organize  mass  marches  and  mass  demonstrations  on  capital  cities. 

19.  According  to  the  People's  World  of  January  15,  1941,  page  5,  Mr.  Trumbo 
was  listed  as  a  sjieaker  at  a  banquet  sponsored  by  the  North  California  Civil 
Rights  Council  held  at  the  Whitcomb  Hotel  in  San  Francisco  on  January  18. 
1941.  This  meeting  was  primarily  concerned  with  efforts  to  defend  the  Com- 
munist Party  and  Communist  cases.  Mr.  Trumbo  also  took  part  in  a  series  of 
meetings  held  about  May  10,  1942,  for  the  purpose  of  launching  a  committee  to 
free  Earl  P>rowder. 

20.  According  to  the  program  of  a  members  meeting  of  the  Hollywood  Arts, 
Sciences,  and  Professional  Council  of  September  17,  1947,  jMr.  Trumbo  was 
listed  as  a  speaker.  The  Hollywood  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professional  Council 
is  a  branch  of  the  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  which  was  formed  by  the 
left  wing  group  of  the  ICCASP  after  the  latter  organization  was  dissolved  when 
its  Communist  denominations  could  no  longer  be  concealed. 

21.  The  Daily  People's  World,  official  Communist  Party  publication  on  the 
west  coast,  dated  May  2,  1947,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the  sponsors  of 
the  Los  Angeles  Chaiifer  of  the  Civil  Rights  Congress. 

22.  The  Worker,  official  publication  of  the  Conununist  Party  dated  September 
22,  1946,  published  a  i)icture  of  the  editor  and  editorial  board  of  a  new  magazine 
entitled  "Mainstream,"  which  was  referred  to  as  a  "Marxist  literary  magazine." 
Dalton  Trumbo,  whose  picture  appeared  with  this  article,  was  stated  to  be  a 
member  of  the  board  of  directors. 

23.  A  circular  announcing  a  "People's  Rally  for  Peace"  meeting  at  the  Shrine 
Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles  on  April  24,  1941,  under  the  auspices  of  the  American 
Peace  Mobilization  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the  speakers.  The  purpose 
of  this  meeting,  according  to  the  circular,  was  to  lU'ge  the  defeat  of  the  House 
of  Representatives  bill  for  lease-lend. 

The  Daily  People's  World,  a  Communist  newspaper  for  the  west  coast,  dated 
July  15,  1941,  states  that  Trumbo  was  in  attendance  at  a  meeting  of  the  Ameri- 
can Peace  Mobilization  held  at  the  Hollvwood  Town  Forum,  HoUvwood,  Calif., 
on  May  17,  1941. 

24.  The  Daily  Worker,  dated  June  20,  1941,  listed  Trumbo  as  a  speaker  at  a 
Free  Speech  Rally  sponsored  by  the  Southern  California  Branch  of  the  National 
Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties  held  at  the  Embassy  Auditorium  in  Los 
Angeles,  June  18,  1941. 

25.  The  Clipper,  official  magazine  of  the  League  of  American  Writers,  de- 
scribed above,  for  the  month  of  August  1941,  stated  that  Dalton  Trumbo  had  been 
a  contributor  for  the  past  12  issues  of  this  magazine. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  339 

A  circular  avertising  the  School  for  Writers  sponsored  by  the  Hollywood 
Chapter  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  for  the  1941-12  term  mentioned 
Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  lecturer. 

The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  INIarch  31,  1943,  in  an  article  entitled  "Young 
Writers  Develop  Technique  in  Workshop,"  stated  that  Dalton  Trumbo  partic- 
ipated in  the  writers  conference  held  during  December  1942,  under  the  slogan 
"The  Pen  Is  a  Sword,"  in  which  be.^inners,  veteran  screen  writers,  novelists, 
poets,  and  writers  in  every  medium  discussed  just  how  each  writer  could  make 
his  pen  a  weapon  for  democracy.  The  article  further  stated  that  the  conference 
was  called  by  the  Writers  Workshop,  which  was  sponsored  by  the  I^^ague  of 
American  Writers. 

The  Screen  Writer,  the  official  publication  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  for 
the  month  of  June  I94(i.  published  an  edited  transcript  of  an  informal  discussion 
held  under  the  auspices  of  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  between  the  noted 
Russian  writer  Konstantin  Simonov  and  menil)ers  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 
The  forum  was  presided  over  by  Dalton  Trumbo. 

26.  The  California  Eagle,  dated  March  7,  1940,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one 
of  the  sponsors  of  the  American  Youth  for  Democracy,  formerly  the  Young  Com- 
munist league,  dance  held  in  Los  Angeles  on  March  4,  1946,  for  the  lientfit  of 
the  United  Electrical  Workers  who  were  on  strike.  This  is  a  Communist-con- 
trolled union. 

A  pamphlet  advertising  the  "Salute  to  Young  America"  program  under  the 
auspices  of  the  American  Youth  for  Democracy  to  be  held  at  the  Hotel  Holly- 
wood, Hollywood,  Calif.,  on  December  1,  1944,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  member 
of  the  sponsoring  committee  and  Mrs.  Trumbo  as  secretary  of  the  committee. 

The  Daily  People's  World  for  December  5,  1944,  stated  that  Trumbo  was  a 
speaker  at  the  above  meeting. 

A  pamphlet  advertising  the  "Youth  Conference"'  under  sponsorship  of  the 
American  Youth  for  Democracy,  scheduled  for  October  21,  1945,  at  the  Los 
Angeles  City  College,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  sponsor. 

A  printed  advertisement  announcing  a  "Welcome  Home,  Joe"  dinner  sponsored 
by  the  Los  Angeles  County  American  Youth  for  Democracy,  scheduled  to  be  held 
December  16, 1945,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the  dinner  committee  members. 
This  meeting  was  avertised  to  be  held  at  the  Ambassador  Hotel  in  Los  Angeles, 
Calif. 

27.  The  Daily  Worker,  dated  October  19,  1942,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a 
sponsor  of  a  dinner  under  the  auspices  of  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Com- 
mittee to  be  held  at  the  Astor  Hotel,  New  York  City,  on  October  27,  1942.  This 
organization  has  been  described  above. 

A  pamphlet  issued  by  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee,  dated  October 
21, 1944,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the  national  sponsors  of  this  organization. 

Letterheads  of  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee,  192  Lexington 
Avenue,  New^  York  City,  obtained  for  the  years  1945  and  1946,  also  listed  Dalton 
Trumbo  as  a  national  sponsor  of  this  organization. 

28.  The  Daily  Worker,  dated  September  16,  1944,  in  an  article  entitled  "Film 
Front,"  lists  Dalton  Truml)0  as  being  affiliated  with  the  Hollywood  Democratic 
Conmiittee.    This  organization  has  been  described  above. 

29.  The  Daily  Worker,  dated  November  22,  1944,  stated  that  Dalton  Trumbo 
was  elected  to  the  board  of  directors  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

The  Screen  Writer,  official  publication  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  in  the 
1946  issues  reflected  that  Dalton  Trumbn  was  the  editor  of  the  Screen  Writer. 

A  proposal  appeared  in  the  Screen  Writer,  edited  by  Dalton  Trumbo,  July 
issue,  1946,  for  an  American  Authors  Authority.  According  to  this  report,  the 
authority  is  to  be  a  marketing  monopoly  wdiich  will  copyright  and  lease  to  users 
all  writings  by  American  authors.  It  is  to  begin  with  scripts  for  screen  and  radio 
and  articles  for  magazines.  By  controlling  this  lucrative  field,  the  authority 
will  be  the  exclusive  agent  for  America's  most  successful  writers. 

30.  A  letterhead  for  the  People's  Educational  Center,  dated  January  11,  1945^ 
announced  the  second  annual  meeting  of  the  People's  Educational  Center,  a 
Connnunist  school  at  the  Shoreham  Hotel,  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  on  Jaimary  21, 
1945.  The  announcement  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  speaker  during  the  evening 
session  on  the  subject.  Role  of  the  Motion  Pictui'e  in  Shaping  the  Future. 

Page  33  of  the  report  of  the  California  State  Legislature's  Joint  Fact-Finding 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  dated  1947,  classifies  the  People's  Educa- 
tional Center  as  a  Communist  front. 

31.  The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  July  22,  1946,  published  a  photograph  of 
Dalton  Trumbo  along  with  an  article  stating  that  Trumbo  would  be  "an  inaugural 


340  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

guest  speaker  Saturday  evening,  August  10,  1940,  at  the  California  Labor  School 
Summer  Term  for  White  Collar  and  Professional  Workers  on  the  Monterey 
Peninsula."  The  article  further  stated  that  reservations  would  be  accepted  at 
the  California  Labor  School,  216  Market  Street,  San  Francisco,  Calif. 

Page  101  of  the  report  of  tlie  California  State  Legi.slature's  Joint  Fact-Finding 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  dated  1947,  lists  the  California  Labor 
School  as  a  Comnumist  school. 

32.  The  Daily  Variety,  a  Hollywood  trade  magazine,  for  the  month  of  June 
1945,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  member  of  the  executive  council  of  the  Holly- 
wood Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions. 
This  organization  has  been  described  above. 

3.'5.  The  Daily  People's  World,  official  Communist  Party  publication  on  the 
west  coast,  dated  May  2,  1947,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the  sponsors  of 
the  Los  Angeles  Chapter  of  the  Civil  Rights  Congress. 

The  Civil  Rights  Congress  has  been  engaged  in  defending  Gerhart  Eisler, 
Comintern  agent,  and  Eugene  Dennis,  executive  secretary  of  the  Communist 
Party. 

34.  The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  March  20,  1946,  stated  that  Dalton  Trumbo 
was  a  speaker  at  a  meeting  held  at  the  Shrine  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif., 
under  the  auspices  of  the  Mobilization  for  Democracy. 

The  Daily  People's  W^orld,  dated  April  5,  1946,  in  an  article  entitled  "We  Are 
With — Trumbo  Pledges  Every  Effort  on  Fight  of  Native  Fascists,"  comments  on 
a  speech  by  Dalton  Trumbo  delivered  at  a  meeting  of  the  Mobilization  for 
Democracy  held  previously  in  Los  Angeles  in  which  Trumbo  is  reported  to  have 
outlined  several  undertakings  by  the  United  States  Government,  such  as  Expedi- 
tion Muskox,  Bikini,  and  the  policies  of  MacArthur  in  Jajian,  all  of  which  Trumbo 
interpreted  as  an  indication  of  United  States  imperialism  and  the  work  of 
Fascist  reaction  in  tlie  United  States. 

35.  The  California  Sentinel,  dated  May  8,  1947,  published  a  list  purported  to 
be  the  official  list  of  the  officers  and  board  of  directors  of  the  Southern  California 
Progressive  Citizens  of  America.  Dalton  Trumbo  was  listed  as  a  member  of 
the  board  of  directors. 

Page  236'  of  the  report  of  the  California  State  Legislature's  Joint  Fact-Finding 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  dated  1947,  refers  to  the  Los  Angeles 
Chapter  of  the  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  as  a  consolidation  of  the  National 
Political  Action  Committee  and  the  Hollywood  Independent  Citizens  Committee 
of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions,  which  are  referred  to  as  Communist 
fronts. 

36.  The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  October  19,  1942,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo 
as  one  of  400  prominent  people  who  signed  an  open  letter  to  President  Roosevelt 
urging  the  United  States  to  sever  diplomatic  relations  with  Spain.  This  letter 
was  made  public,  according  to  the  article,  by  tlie  Council  for  Pan-American 
Democracy,  which  has  attacked  alleged  American  imperialism. 

37.  The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  November  6,  1945.  carried  an  advertise- 
ment under  the  heading,  "Break  relations  with  Spain,"  advising  that  a  meeting 
was  scheduled  for  the  Shrine  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  for  November 
16,  1945,  at  which  Dalton  Trumbo  would  serve  as  chairman.  The  meeting  was 
said  to  be  under  the  auspices  of  the  American  Committee  for  Spanish  Freedom. 
This  was  part  of  the  Communist  campaign  in  behalf  of  Loyalist  Spain  ini- 
tiated at  tlie  seventh  Congress  of  the  Communist  International — the  summer  of 
1935. 

38.  The  Daily  Worker,  dated  INIay  24,  1947,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  one  of  the 
speakers  at  the  Artists  Fight  Back  meeting  .sponsored  by  ^Mainstream,  to  be  held 
at  Manhattan  Center,  New  York  City,  on  June  11,  1047.  The  article  stated  that 
the  rally  would  give  the  answer  of  the  writers  and  artists  to  the  "Un-American 
Committee's"  attacks  on  democratic  culture  in  America. 

The  New  Y'ork  World  Telegram,  dated  June  11,  1947,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo 
as  one  of  the  speakers  at  the  Artists  Fight  Back  rally  held  at  Manhattan  Center, 
New  York  City,  on  June  11,  1947. 

The  Worlver,  dated  March  23,  1947,  published  a  write-up  on  the  magazine 
Mainstream  showing  tlie  table  of  contents  for  the  winter  edition,  1946,  listing 
Dalton  Trumbo  as  a  contributor  with  a  poem  entitled  "Confessional."  This 
magazine  has  been  described  above. 

39.  The  Daily  People's  Wcn-ld,  dated  October  24,  1942,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo 
as  one  of  the  persons  who  endorsed  LaRue  McCormick  as  Communist  Party 
candidate  for  State  senator  of  Los  Angeles  County. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  341 

The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  July  6,  1944,  announced  that  Dalton  Trumbo 
would  be  one  of  the  judges  of  a  short-story  contest  sponsored  by  the  Daily  People's 
World  to  run  from  August  1,  1944,  to  February  1,  1945. 

The  Daily  People's  World,  dated  March  26,  1946,  listed  Dalton  Trumbo  as  a 
speaker  at  a  forum  lield  at  the  Embassy  Auditorium  on  April  8,  194G,  under  the 
auspices  of  the  Daily  People's  World  entitled  "Art — Weapon  of  the  People." 
A  photostatic  copy  of  this  publicity  is  attached. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Mr.  Chairman 


The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  would  like  to  call  Investigator  Louis  J.  Russell. 

The  Chairman.  ]\Ir.  Russell. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Russell  has  previously  been 
sworn  in  this  hearing. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  we  will  swear  him  now,  just  to  make  sure. 

Mr.  Russell,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about 
to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  RUSSELL 

Mr.  Stripling.  State  your  full  name,  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Russell.  Louis  J.  Russell. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  are  a  member  of  the  investigating  staff  of  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  M^ere  with  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investiga- 
tion as  an  agent  for  10  years  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  was. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  designated  to  make  an  investigation  to 
determine  whether  or  not  Dalton  Trumbo  was  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  was. 

Mr.  SrRiPLiNG.  Will  you  give  the  committee  the  results  of  your  in- 
vestigation ? 

]\Ir.  Russell.  Yes. 

During  the  course  of  the  investigation  I  secured  information  re- 
garding the  Communist  Party  registration  card  of  Dalton  Trumbo 
for  the  year  1944.  I  have  a  photostatic  copy  of  this  registration  card 
before  me. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Read  it  to  the  committee ;  that  is,  read  for  the  benefit 
of  the  committee  the  information  contained  thereon. 

INIr.  Russell.  This  card  bears  the  name  "Dalt  T."  At  the  time  this 
card  was  obtained,  I  also  obtained  a  code  which  reflects  the  name 
"Dalt  T"  was  the  name  used  for  Dalton  Trumbo  on  the  Communist 
Party  registration  card.  This  card  reflects  that  "Dalt  T"  resided  at 
620  Beverly  Drive,  city  Beverly  Hills,  county  Los  Angeles,  State  of 
California.  The  card  bears  the  number  47187.  It  contains  a  notation 
"1944  card  No.  37300."  It  contains  another  quotation  which  states 
"New  card  issued  November  30,  1944,"  The  balance  of  the  card  con- 
tains descriptive  data  regarding  "Dalt  T."  It  states  that  "Dalt  T"  is 
a  male.  Occupation  that  of  a  writer.  Industry,  motion  picture.  The 
question  is  then  asked:  "A  member  of  the  CIO,  A.  F.  of  L.,  inde- 


342  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

pendent  union,  or  no  union?''  Independent  union  is  checked.  The 
last  question  is :  "Is  member  chib  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?"  The 
answer  "Yes"  is  checked."'* 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  all,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  CiiAiEMAN.  Mr.  Vail,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell  ? 

Mr.  McDowell.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  The  evidence  presented  before  this  committee  con- 
cerning Dahon  Trumbo  clearly  indicates  that  he  is  an  active  Com- 
munist Party  member.  Also  the  fact  that  he  followed  the  usual  Com- 
munist line  of  not  responding  to  questions  of  the  committee  is  definite 
proof  that  he  is  a  memeber  of  the  Communist  Party.  Therefore,  by 
unanimous  vote  of  the  members  present,  the  subcommittee  recom- 
mends to  the  full  committee  that  Dalton  Trumbo  be  cited  for  con- 
tempt of  Congress,  and  that  for  his  refusal  to  answer  the  pertinent 
question,  "Are  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party?"  and  his  re- 
fusal to  answer  other  questions,  the  committee  recommends  appropri- 
ate action  be  taken  by  the  full  committee  without  delay. 

Mr.  Stripling,  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Eoy  Brewer. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Roy  Brewer,  take  the  stand,  please. 

(Mr.  Roy  M.  Brewer,  accompanied  by  counsel,  takes  place  at  wit- 
ness table.) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Brewer,  will  you  please  stand  and  raise  your 
right  hand. 

Mr.  Brewer,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about 
to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  Iruth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God? 

Mr.  Breaver.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

TESTIMONY  OF  EOY  M.  BREWEE 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  will  you  state  your  full  name,  please, 
and  present  address  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Roy  M.  Brew^er,  TIG  North  Curson  Avenue,  Los  An- 
geles, Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  w^ere  you  born,  Mr.  Brewer? 

Mr.  Brew^er.  In  Hall  County,  Nebr.,  August  9,  1909. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  are  the  international  representative  of  the  In- 
ternational Alliance  of  Theatrical  Stage  Employees  and  Motion-Pic- 
ture ISIachine  Operatoi-s  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  am. 

Mr.  STRirLiNG.  I  have  a  brief  preliminary  statement  wdiich  I  would 
like  to  read,  if  I  may. 

The  Chairman.  May  we  see  the  statement,  to  see  if  it  is  pertinent? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes  [handing  statement  to  the  chairman]. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Brewer,  we  think  that  everything  in  this  state- 
ment can  be  substantiated  through  questioning.  Therefore,  we  would 
suggest  that  at  this  stage  the  chief  investigator  ask  questions. 

Mr.  Brewer.  That  is  quite  all  right. 

^'  See  iippcndix,  )i.  530,  for  exhibit  (17. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  343 

The  Chairman.  Then  you  can  answer  in  accordance  with  the  state- 
ment. If  later  on  the  committee  decides  to  place  it  in  the  record,  why, 
when  we  come  to  that  we  will  accept  it. 

Mr.  Brewer.  That  is  all  right. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  yon  stated  yon  are  the  international 
representative  of  the  International  Alliance  of  Theatrical  Stage  Em- 
jiloyees  and  Moving  Picture  Machine  Operators  of  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Of  the  United  States  and  Canada;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  SiTiirrJNG.  How  long  have  you  held  that  position? 

iMr.  Brewer.  Since  January  1,  1945. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  did  you  do  prior  to  that? 

Mr.  Brew^er.  Immediately  prior  to  that  I  was  employed  by  the 
War  Production  Board  as  the  Chief  of  the  Plant  and  Community 
Facilities  Service  of  the  Office  of  Labor  Production,  here  in  Wash- 
ington. Prior  to  that  time  I  had  been  president  of  the  Nebraska 
State  Federation  of  Labor,  which  is  the  State  branch  of  the  American 
Federation  of  Labor,  a  position  which  I  had  held  for  8  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  large  is  your  union  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  International  Alliance  is  approximately  65,000 
members. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  many  of  your  members  are  employed  in  the 
motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Practically  all  in  the  motion-picture  industry,  but  ap- 
proximately 15,000  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Fifteen  thousand  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  give  the  committee  a  brief  break-down 
as  to  the  type  of  jobs  which  your  members  hold  throughout  the 
industry  ? 

Mr.  Breaver.  You  mean  throughout  the  entire  industr}'^  or  in  Holly- 
wood ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes;  in  other  words,  what  type  of  work  do  your 
members  do  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  so  far  as  our  membership  throughout  the  Na- 
tion is  concerned,  it  is  primarily  confined  to  the  work  of  motion-pic- 
ture projectionists,  motion-picture  stage  employees,  employees  in  the 
film  and  distribution  exchanges  of  the  various  film  companies  and — 
that  is  the  basis  of  them  throughout  the  Nation. 

In  Hollywood,  we  have  most  of  the  technical  employees  employed 
in  the  making  of  motion  pictures.  We  have  the  cameramen,  the  sound 
men,  and  those  employees  who  do  work  comparable  to  stage  employees 
in  the  studios,  such  as  grips,  property  men,  and  so  forth.  AYe  have 
14  unions  in  Hollywood,  wdiich  represent,  as  I  have  stated,  approxi- 
mately one-half  of  the  employees  in  the  studios.  There  are  about, 
I  think,  7,000  so-called  mechanical  employees,  with  the  others  of  the 
15,000  being  represented  by  actors  and  by  extras. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Brewer,  you  said  "grips."    What  is  a  "grip?" 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  a  "grip"  is  a  man  that  handles  the  scenery  on 
the  set. 

Mr.  McDowell.  A  scene  shifter? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes.  That  is  a  term  that  has  gotten  to  be  applied  to 
those  men  who  move  the  scenery  and  the  various  objects  on  the  set,  in 


344  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

the  actual  making  of  a  picture  or  in  the  actual  setting  of  a  set  on  the 
stage. 

Mr.  Stbipling.  Mr.  Brewer,  how  long  have  yon  been  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Bhp:wek.  I  arrived  in  Hollywood  on  ISIarch  12,  1945.  I  had 
previously  made  one  trip  there,  which  was  in  late  December  of  1944. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Since  vou  have  been  there,  have  you  observed  any 
Comunist  influence  or  infiltration  among  the  employees  of  the  motion- 
picture  industry,  in  any  field  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes,  sir;  I  have — a  great  deal. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  describe  to  the  committee  the  extent  of 
such  infihration  which  you  have  observed  yourself? 

The  Chairman,  And,  Mr.  Brewer,  will  you  speak  louder,  please? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes.  Well,  that  is  quite  a  long  story.  When  I  arrived 
in  Hollywood,  on  March  12,  1945,  there  was  in  progres  a  jurisdictional 
strike 

Mr,  Stripling.  May  I  interrupt  you  at  this  point,  Mr.  Brewer? 

Mr.  Chairman.  I  failed  to  have  the  witnes  identify  the  gentleman 
with  him.    Is  he  your  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  He  is. 

Mr.  Stripling,  Would  you  identify  him? 

Mr,  Brewer,  Mr,  Matthew  Levy. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Proceed,  Mr.  Brewer, 

Mr,  Brewer.  When  I  arrived  in  Hollywood,  on  March  12,  1945, 
there  was  a  jurisdictional  strike  in  progress  which  had  been  called  by 
the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions,  That  was  an  organization  of  certain 
American  Federation  of  Labor  unions  that  had  been  banded  together 
to  form  sort  of  an  unofficial  asociation  of  A.  F,  of  L,  unions.  It  was 
comprised  primarily  of  members  of  the  painters  union,  but  it  also  had 
in  its  membership  a  union  of  the  International  Asociation  of  Ma- 
chinists, a  union  of  the  International  Brotherhood  of  Electrical 
Workers,  a  union  of  the  Building  Service  Employees  International 
Union,  an  organization  of  the  plumbers'  union,  and  there  was  a  sort 
of  unofficial  association  with  respect  to  molders  and  sheet-metal 
workers  who  were  employed  in  the  studios  in  very  small  numbers. 

Presumably,  the  issue  over  which  this  strike  had  been  called  was 
the  jurisdiction  over  a  group  of  employees  known  as  set  dressers. 
These  are  employees  who  have  the  responsibility  for  the  dressing  of 
the  motion  picture  sets  prior  to  the  shooting. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  in  connection  with  this  jurisdictional  strike, 
Mr.  Brewer,  has  there  been  any  threat  on  the  part  of  the  Communists 
at  any  time  to  take  over  your  union  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  Mr.  Stripling,  as  the  situation 
developed  and  as  we  became  involved  with  the  various  forces  at  work 
behind  this  strike,  it  became  very  evident  to  me  that  there  was  some- 
thing very  seriously  wrong.  It  took  me  a  little  while  to  identify  it,  but 
I  finally  identified  it  to  my  perfect  satisfaction  as  a  definite  attempt  on 
the  part  of  the  Communist  Party  to  take  over  the  entire  strucure  of 
the  trade-union  movement  in  the  studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Throughout  the  industry? 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  entire  motion-picture  industry  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  who  was  responsible  for  that  effort  and  who 
was  in  charge  of  it  ? 

INIr,  Brewer,  Well,  the  leader  of  the  strike  and  the  pi-esident  of  the 
Conference  of  Studio  Unions  and  the  person  that  was  really  directing 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  345 

most  of  the  affairs  openly  was  a  man  by  the  name  of  Herbert  K. 
Sorrell,  who  was  officially  the  business  agent  of  the  painters'  union, 
local  No.  644,  in  the  studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Has  their  effort,  on  the  part  of  the  Communists,  to 
take  over  your  union,  been  successful? 

Mr.  Brewer.  No,  it  hasn't;  but  it  has  been  successful  in  creating  a 
great  deal  of  strife  and  turmoil. 

Mr.  Stripling.  AVhat  is  the  present  status  of  the  situation  regarding 
Communists  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  the  situation  as  it  exists  now  is  that  the  Con- 
ference of  Studio  Unions  has  called  a  series  of  four  strikes  since  1944. 
The" last  one  was  called  on  September  26,  1946,  and  is  officially  still 
going  on,  although  it  has  been  dissipated  and  economically  is  at  the 
present  time  completely  ineffective. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  mentioned  Herbert  K.  Sorrell.  I  believe  that 
there  has  been  testimony  before  this  committee  that  Herbert  K.  Sor- 
rell was  a  Communist.  Do  you  have  any  information  as  to  the  Com- 
munist activities  of  Mr.  Sorrell? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  do,  Mr.  Stripling.  And  I  would  like  to  present  this 
to  the  committee,  if  you  will  permit  me  to  do  so. 

I  would  like  to  say,  as  a  preliminary  to  this,  that  when  this  strike 
started,  the  first  strike,  in  1945,  which  was  the  first  important  strike 
involved  in  this  question,  as  it  became  obvious  to  me  that  the  strike 
was  being  prosecuted  by  and  with  the  assistance  of  the  Communist 
forces  in  the  motion-picture  studios  as  well  as  with  those  same  forces 
in  the  entire  community,  we  put  out  a  series  of  bulletins,  I  have  a  com- 
plete file  of  these  bulletins,  and  I  will  leave  them  with  the  committee. 

I  will  not  ask  that  they  be  introduced  as  an  exhibit,  but  if  the  com- 
mittee finds  something  in  there  that  they  want  to  use  as  an  exhibit, 
it  will  be  there  for  them. 

As  the  result  of  the  publication  of  those  exhibits,  Mr.  Sorrell  filed 
a  suit  against  me  and  the  international  president  of  my  organization 
for  libel. 

As  a  result  of  that,  we  started  to  investigate  the  situation  and  we 
found  in  possession  of  an  investigator  some  information  with  respect 
to  the  Communist  Partv  membership  of  Mr.  Herbert  K.  Sorrell. 

Mr.  Stripling.  May  I  see  tliose,  please? 

Mv.  Brewer.  Yes.     [Handing  documents  to  Mr.  Stripling.] 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  have  here,  Mr.  Chairman,  a  photostatic  copy  of  a 
card,  which  says :  ^^ 

Control  card,  first-half  of  1937,  book  No.  74282— 

the  name  ''Herbert  Stewart" — S-t-e-w-a-r-t — 

State  of  California,  County  of  Los  Angeles,  city  of  Los  Angeles,  district  13.  Sec- 
tion, Industrial.  Unit,  Studios.  Occupation,  Painter.  Union,  Painters  644. 
Male.    Age,  41.    White. 

Now,  can  you  tell  us  whether  or  not  tliis  photostatic  copy,  or  this 
document,  has  ever  been  introduced  before  any  Government  agency  in 
the  State  of  California  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes.  These  documents  were  presented  to  the  Joint 
Fact-Finding  Committee  of  the  California  State  Legislature. 

"  See  appendix,  p.  325.  for  exhibit  28. 


346  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  wlietlier  or  not  ]\Ir.  Sorrell  has  ever 
made  any  denial  or  reply  regardin*^  this  alleged  membership  in  the 
Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  I  think  he  has  made  a  general  denial.  But  he 
was  subpenaed  to  appear  before  the  committee  to  answer  the  allega- 
tions as  contained  by  those  documents,  and  he  failed  to  appear  in 
answer  to  the  subpena. 

At  the  time  those  were  introduced  by  the  California  State  Com- 
mittee, there  was  also  introduced  evidence  by  what  is  considered  to  be 
the  foremost  handwriting  expert  in  America.  His  name  is  Mr.  Clark 
Sellers.  He  is  the  man  that  identified  the  kidnaping  note  in  the  Lind- 
bergh kidnaping  case  as  being  the  writing  of  Bruno  Hauptmann.  He 
is  also  the  man  that  recently  testified  in  the  Overell  murder  case, 
identifying  the  signature  on  the  dynamite  receipts  as  the  writing  of 
Bud  Gollum.  He  testified  that  the  signature  on  this  Communist  Party 
membership  book  receipt  was  the  writing  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  I  would  like  to  state,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  these 
same  documents  were  submitted  in  evidence  by  a  previous  witness, 
Mr.  Adolphe  Menjou,  last  week,  in  which  he  stated  that  evidence  had 
been  submitted  to  the  California  committee  to  the  effect  that  the  party 
record  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  was  carried  in  the  name  of  Herbert 
Stewart.  This  is  the  same  document,  or  a  photostatic  copy  of  the 
same  document. 

Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Mr.  Sorrell's  wife's  name  is  Stewart? 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  report  of  the  joiiit  committee  of  the  California 
Legislature  says  that  that  was  his  mother's  maiden  name,  that  his 
mother's  maiden  name  was  Stewart. 

I  have  additional  evidence  here,  Mr.  Chairman,  if  you  Avould  care 
to  have  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.  Would  you  explain  to  the  committee, 
please 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  also  have  a  bulletin  which  was  issued  by  our  or- 
ganization which  outlines  in  some  detail  the  Conmiunist  activities, 
some  of  the  Communist  activities  in  which  Mr.  Sorrell  has  engaged 
since  the  year  193S,  I  will  run  through  them  briefly,  if  it  is  the  wish 
of  the  committee  that  I  do  so. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Brewer.  In  the  testimony  this  morning  there  was  mention 
made  of  the  Motion  Picture  Democratic  Committee  and  the  designa- 
tion of  that  committee  as  a  Communist  front. 

In  1940,  there  was  a  resolution  presented  to  the  Executive  Com- 
mittee of  the  Motion  Picture  Democratic  Committee  by  Mr.  Philip 
Dunne  and  Mr.  Melvin  Douglas.  That  committee  says,  among  other 
things :  { 

The  Motion  Picture  Democratic  Committee  reatlii-ms  its  support  of  the  Roose- 
velt foreign  policy.  2.  It  commends  the  President  ft>r  his  condemnation  of 
Russian  aggression  and  the  request  that  the  Finnish  war  deht  payments  be 
reserved  for  Finnish  use.  3.  That  the  Motion  Picture  Democratic  Committee  is 
in  fundamental  disagreement  with  the  Communist  Party  and  other  organizations 
and  individuals  who  supported  the  President  until  the  Russian  aggression  and 
have  since  turned  on  the  Administration  with  attacks. 

That  resolution  was  rejected  by  the  executive  board  by  a  vote  of  19 
to  nothing.  Mr.  Herbert  K,  Sorrell  at  that  time  was  listed  as  a  mem- 
ber of  that  conniiittee. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  347 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  I  notice  from  the  statement  that  you 
filed  with  the  chairman  you  say  : 

The  plan  as  we  see  it  was  for  Communist  forces  led  by  Mr.  Jeff  Kibre,  Com- 
munist agent  sent  to  Hollywood  in  liJ35.  and  his  successor,  Herbert  K.  Sorrell, 
to  infilti'ate  and  control  Hollywood  technical  laluir,  while  other  C'onununist  forces 
led  by  Mr.  .John  Howard  Lawson,  whose  act  ivities  have  been  effectively  described 
here,'to  infiltrate  and  control  the  talent  guilds  and  so-called  cultural  groups  in  the 
industry. 

Whois  Jeff  Kibre? 

Mr.  Brewek.  That  is  Jefi'  Kibre. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Kibre. 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  would  like  to  say — I  have  some  important  testimony 
with  respect  to  the  activities  of  Jetf  Kibre  which  I  would  like  to  put  in. 
I  would  like  to  say,  however,  that  I  have  a  <2:reat  deal  more  material  on 
the  Communist  activities  of  Mr.  Sorrell,  which 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  since  your  statement  stated,  "Led  by  Mr.  Jeff 
Kibre,  Communist  agent  sent  to  Hollywood  in  1935,"  and  then  you  say 
"and  his  successor,  Herbert  K.  Sorrell,"  suppose  we  deal  with  Mr. 
Kibre,  before  going  to  Mr.  Sorrell,  before  goino-  any  further  with  Mr. 
Sorrell. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Fine.  As  I  stated,  when  I  arrived  in  Hollywood  it 
became  necessaiy  for  me  to  find  out  what  we  were  fighting  in  this 
jurisdictional  dispute.  It  became  very  evident  to  me  that  it  was  not 
an  ordinary  trade-union  argument.  Presumably  I  was  supposed  to 
be  fighting  a  jurisdictional  fight  with  the  painters  union. 

One  of  the  things  which  convinced  me  that  this  was  not  an  ordinary 
dispute  was  the  experience  which  I  encountered  in  the  Central  Labor 
Council  of  the  city  of  Los  Angeles.  Normally,  when  a  union  is  in  a 
jurisdictional  dispute  with  another  international  union  there  is  a 
bond  of  loj^alty  that  extends  down  the  line  of  that  international  iniion, 
"When  I  went  down  to  the  central  labor  council  I  found  that  the  presi- 
dent of  that  council  was  a  member  of  the  painters  union.  So  I 
T-aturally  assumed  that  his  sympathies  would  be  with  the  painters 
in  this  jurisdictional  dispute.  I  found,  however,  that  on  the  execu- 
tive board  of  the  Central  Labor  Council  was  a  representative  of  one 
of  my  own  unions,  who  was  Mr.  Morville  Kretcher,  the  business  agent 
of  our  film  technicians'  local  No.  683. 

Well,  the  very  first  issue  that  came  before  that  council  there  that 
had  to  do  with  the  Hollywood  dispute,  to  my  surprise  I  found  out 
that  the  painter  was  on  mj  side  and  my  own  representative  was  on 
the  side  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions.  That,  among  other 
things,  established  the  fact  that  the  line  of  loyalty  in  this  dispute  and 
the  line  of  loyalty  in  the  entire  union  structure  in  Hollywood  were 
not  those  lines  which  follow  ordinary  trade  union  structure. 

So.  I  began  to  invesfigate,  and  I  found  that  in  every  one  of  our 
unions  we  had  certain  disloyal  groups.  I  came  to  identify  those 
groups  of  Communist  factions.  One  of  the  most  important  pieces 
of  evidence  which  I  found  was  that  which  was  contained  in  the  1940 
23roceeding  of  our  own  international  alliance  convention,  which  dealt 
with  the  activities  of  ISfr.  Kibre.  I  found  printed  there  a  series  of 
leports  which  had  been  published  in  1939,  in  the  Los  Angeles  Citizen, 
and  which  had  been  later  published  in  our  1940  proceedings,  in  1940. 
These  reports  were  the  reports  of  Mr.  Jeff  Kibre  to  offers  of  the  CIO 
and  also  to  Communist  Party  functionaries  who  have  been  identi- 
fied previously  in  this  hearing. 


348  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

I  have  picked  out  a  few  of  the  pertinent  excerpts  which  I  think 
are  vakiable,  not  only  to  identify  Mr.  Kibre  as  a  functionary  of  the 
Communist  Party,  but  also  to  outline  the  techniques  which  he  had 
written  down  and  submitted  to  his  superiors  in  that  party. 

And  with  your  permission  I  would  like  to  read  these  pertinent  ex- 
cerpts, which  I  think  you  will  find  very  valuable  in  analyzintr  the 
Communist  infiltration  in  Hollywood. 

The  Chairman.  How  long  are  they? 

Mr.  Breaver.  Well,  I  will  try  to  shorten  them,  ISIr.  Chairman.  I 
will  only  read  paragraphs  that  are  pertinent.  I  would  say  that  totally 
there  are  probably  three  or  four  of  these  pages. 

The  Chairman.  The  reason  I  ask  that  question — we  are  probably 
2  days  behind  in  our  schedule,  and  we  w^ant  to  try  to  hurry  along  as 
best  we  can,  but  at  the  same  time  include  all  the  evidence  that  we  pos- 
sibly can.    So,  witlicut  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Breaver.  Well,  if  you  feel  it  is  not  pertinent,  why,  you  can 
tell  me. 

This  was  a  report  written  by  Mr.  Kibre  to  the  State  headquarters  of 
the  CIO  on  April  23,  1938. 

I  might  say,  preliminarily,  that  there  is  evidence  in  the  files  of  the 
committee  in  California  that  there  was  a  definite  link  between  Mr. 
Kibre  and  the  Soviet  Union.  There  is  evidence  in  the  file  to  show  that 
in  the  year  1934  there  was  a  meeting  held  in  the  city  of  Carmel,  Calif., 
which  was  attended  by  a  woman  by  the  name  of  Ella  Winters,  and  that 
she  was  in  turn  delegated  the  responsibility  of  contacting  Mr.  Kibre, 
and  that  according  to  this  evidence  she  did  contact  Mr.  Kibre. 

Now,  the  representative  of  the  Soviet  Union  that  was  at  this  meeting 
in  Carmel  was  a  Mr.  Michael  Aisenstein — and  I  think  it  is  spelled 
A-i-s-e-n-s-t-e-i-n. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  What  was  his  connection  with  the  Soviet  Union? 

INIr.  Brewer.  He  was  a  representative  of  the  AMTORG  Corp.,  which 
was  the  then  Russian  purchasing  agent  in  this  country. 

The  plans  which  were  laid  at  this  Carmel  meeting  were  later  re- 
flected directly  in  the  activities  of  Mr.  Kibre  when  he  appeared  in 
our  unions  in  1935. 

In  1938,  Mr.  Kibre,  now  a  trusted  member  of  our  organization  and 
an  employee  of  the  studios  in  Hollywood,  wrote  this  report  to  the 
headquarters  of  the  CIO  in  California  : 

KKVIEW  OF  PLAN  AND  OBJECTIVES  VOR  THE  PAST  SEVER;\.L  MONTHS 

Developments  in  Hollywood  during  the  past  2  months  have  clearly  demon- 
strated that  not  only  the  correctness  of  the  analysis  of  the  general  situation  as 
presented  in  the  jast  report  but  also  the  concrete  possibiliies  of  a  movement  of 
unity  within  the  present  craft  set-up. 

A  studio  unemployment  conference  representing  12  unions  and  guilds  is  the 
most  basic  achievfmient.  This  conference  has  already  practically  reached  the 
point  of  demanding  joint  action  liy  all  of  the  unions  and  guilds. 

Meanwhile,  a  broad  anti-IATSE  movement — 

and  I  might  say  "lATSE'  'is  the  designation  for  my  unions,  the  Inter- 
national Alliance  of  Theatrical  Stage  Employees '■ 

representing  a  majority  of  workers  in  the  industry  has  announced  support  of  the 
program  of  unemployment  conference  as  the  best  means  of  lighting  the  company- 
union  policies  of  the  lA  and  the  employers. 

By  bringing  the.'-e  two  movements  together  on  a  fundamental  issue  of  better 
conditions,  a  solid  though  not, a  spectacular  movement  for  a  federaticn  as  teh 
preliminary  step  for  industrial  "unionism  has  developed. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  349 

Now,  later  on  in  the  report  Mr.  Kibre  makes  what  I  feel  to  be  a  very 
significant  statement.  He  says  that  the  Screen  Cartoonists  Guild, 
which  has  figured  very  importantly  in  the  activities  in  Hollywood  and 
which  is  the  union  about  which  Mr.  Disney  testified— he  says  positively 
that  this  guild  was  organized  by  us.     Later  on  he  says : 

The  building  of  the  unemployment  conferences  of  the  various  i-elatecl  activities 
would  have  been  impossible  without  the  further  development  and  coordination  of 
rank-and-file  machinery  embracing  the  entire  industry.  Influential  groups  have 
been  established  in  every  major  union  and  guild.  These  groups  are  coordinated 
by  a  regular  underground  apparatus.  It  is  through  these  groups,  based  in  the 
present  organizations,  committed  to  the  object  of  an  industrial  union  for  the 
35,000  workers  in  the  industry,  that  the  present  field  representative  is  working. 

Then,  in  closing  this  report,  Mr.  Kibre  says  further : 

The  establishment  of  an  industrial  union  in  Hollywood  will  have  repercussions 
far  beyond  the  industry  itself.  It  will  open  up  virtually  the  untouched  field  of 
the  amusement  industry  as  a  whole. 

And  I  would  like  to  say  in  connection  with  that  that  the  amusement 
industry  is  a  well-organized  industry  and  therefore  when  he  says,  "the 
untouched  field,"  he  must  have  meant  the  field  untouched  by  com- 
munism, because  it  was  a  well-organized  field'  at  that  time. 

Moreover,  it  will  have  tremendous  influence  on  the  entire  development  of  the 
CIO  in  Los  Angeles  County. 

And  I  want  to  say  here  that  the  official  CIO  movement  in  Los 
Angeles,  as  well  as  in  the  State  of  California,  is  recognized  by  all 
experts  in  the  field  of  labor  as  being  completely  under  the  domination 
of  the  Communist  Party.  It  is  led  by  a  man  by  the  name  of  Phil 
Connolly,  who  is  generally  recognized  as  being  a  Communist. 

As  the  largest  compact  industry  in  the  county,  it  will  be  of  inestimable  value  in 
giving  the  industrial  movement  a  solid  base,  and  with  Hollywood  and  its  prestige 
linked  to  the  harbor  and  the  longshoremen,  a  tremendous  spurt  would  be  given 
the  organizing  movement  as  a  whole. 

And  there  is  a  significant  note.    It  is  signed, 

Respectfully  submitted : 

Jeff  Kibke, 
Field  Rep)'esentative  for  Hollyioood. 

And  it  has  a  significant  note  at  the  bottom,  which  says : 

It  is  of  extreme  importance  because  of  the  nature  of  the  work  being  carried  on 
that  the  report  and  the  name  of  the  representative  be  kept  as  confidential  as 
possible. 

Now,  the  next  report  which  we  have  is  a  very  significant  one  because 
it  was  written  to  Mr.  Bob  Reed,  who  has  been  identified  here  as  a 
Communist  Party  functionary  attached  to  the  fraction  in  the  Actors 
Equity  in  New  York  City. 

Mr.  McDowell.  What  was  his  name,  again  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Bob  Reed,  and  he  was  identified  b}^  ]\Ir.  Rushmore  in 
his  testimony  as  a  Communist  Party  functionary.  Mr.  Kibre  starts 
out  this  report  by  this  statement : 

My  DELiR  Bob  :  Well,  one  thing  about  Reds.  They  seldom  write  except  on  busi- 
ness. A  number  of  things  are  on  my  mind,  but  first  it  appears  that  the  long- 
-a waited  showdown  in  the  industry  between  the  lA  and  real  unity  is  fast  on  Its  way 
and  that's  the  main  business  of  this  note. 

Also,  I  am  the  undercover  field  representative  for  the  CIO  in  Hollywood,  because 
of  economy.    Reedy  Cowl  had  to  go  back  to  the  Painters. 

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350  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Then  I  will  skip  part  of  it  here,  which  is  not  too  significant,  and  pick 
it  up  where  he  says : 

In  the  uieantime,  I  wish  you  would  discus«  the  matter  of  lA  action  with  Jack 
Statchel.    Necessity  of  my  getting  in  touch  with  the  contacts  in  various  cities, 

and  so  forth. 

I  have  taljen  it  up  with  Paul  Cline 

Mr.  SrRiPLiNCi.  Could  you  identify  Jack  Statchel  ?  Mr.  Brewer,  do 
you  know  Jack  Statchel  ? 

Mv.  Brewer.  I  am  sorry.  I  know  that  he  is  a  recognized  party  func- 
tionary, but  I  personally  cannot  identify  him. 

Paul  Cline 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  Will  you  for  the  record  identify' 
Jack  Statchel? 

Mr.  Striplinc;.  I  would  like,  Mr.  Chairman,  to  put  a  memorandum 
in  on  Jack  Statchel,  which  I  will  have  here  in  a  few  moments. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  it  is  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Brewer  (reading)  : 

I  have  taken  it  up  with  Paul  Cline,  but  he  feels  personal  appeal  by  vou  or 
V.J. 

Now,  the  persons  who  analyzed  these  reports  identified  ''V.  J.'"  as  V.  J. 
Jerome,  who  was  also  identified  by  Mr.  Rushmore  in  his  testimony. 

rather  than  communicate  through  official  channels  would  get  quicker  results.  I 
know  definitely  that  a  Morris  lushewitz,  publicity  director 

Mr.  Strh^ling.  Would  you  spell  that,  please  ^ 
Mr.  Brewer.  It  is  M-o-r-r-i-s  I-u-s-h-e-wi-tz. 

publicity  director  of  the  motion-picture  operators'  local  of  New  York,  is  one  of 
our  people.  Also  I  understand  we  have  a  person  in  the  Cleveland  local  who  pulls 
considerable  weight.  It  is  imperative  that  I  get  hold  of  all  of  these  contacts. 
Send  them  report  on  the  role  of  the  lA  in  Hollywood. 

Then  Mr.  Kibre  winds  up  this  in  a  very  friendly  way,  which  would 
indicate  a  close  personal  relationship  with  Mr.  Bol)  Keed.    He  says : 

Hope  all  of  this  isn't  too  big  an  order  for  a  jolt  out  of  the. blue  sky,  and  hope  Ida 
is  as  sunny-faced  as  ever.    Maybe  I'll  be  seeing  you  in  a  couple  of  weeks.    Hope 
so.    By  the  way,  if  Fred  Keating  is  around,  give  him  by  regards. 
Comradely, 

Jeff. 

Now,  as  you  analyze  these  reports,  it  becomes  significant  that  what 
Mr.  Kibre  was  trying  to  do 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  I  wish  you  would  identify  for  the  com- 
mittee the  documents  from  which  you  have  been  reading. 

Mr.  B!fcEWp:R.  This  is  a  copy  of  the  Proceedings  of  the  1940  Conven- 
tion of  the  International  Alliance  of  Theatrical  Stage  Employees  and 
Moving  Picture  Machine  Oj^erators  of  the  United  States  and  Canada^ 
the  official  report. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.  Now,  Mr.  Kibre's  report  was  placed  in  the 
official  report  by  Mr.  Kibre? 

Mr,  Brewer.  No.  This  was  placed  in  the  report  of  the  convention 
by  the  office  of  our  international  union.     These  reports 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  other  words,  it  was  as  a  disclosure  of  the  activity 
of  Mr.  Kibre? 

Mr.  Brewer.  That  is  right.  And  these  reports  were  previously 
published  in  the  Los  Angeles  Citizen,  wliich  is  the  official  publication 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY  351 

of  the  Los  Angeles  Central  Labor  Council  in  Los  Angeles,  at  the  time 
of  an  election. 

Mr.  8tiuplixg.  Now.  had  Mr.  Kibre  ever  denied  the  content  of  these 
reports  ^ 

Mr.  Brewer.  Not  to  my  knowledge.  And,  significantly  enough, 
when  these  reports  were  made  public  and  the  election  which  Mr,  Kibre 
subsequently  engineered  in  this  effort  to  take  over  the  Hollywood- 
unions,  he  disappeared  from  the  picture  in  Hollywood.  His  next 
appearance  on  the  scene  w^as  as  a  leader  in  the  North  American  Avia- 
tion strike,  in  Englewood.  Calif.,  which  was  identified  by  President 
Roosevelt  as  a  political  strike,  called  for  the  purpose  of  impeding  the 
defense  of  the  country.  He  is  now  an  official  of  the  CIO  fishermen's 
union  and  lias  been  indicted  and  convicted  of  a  charge  dealing  with 
violation  of  the  Federal  antitrust  laws. 

The  significance  of  the  technique  which  is  outlined  in  Mr.  Kibre's 
early  reports,  as  I  see  it.  Mr.  Chairman,  is  that  that  technique  has 
been  followed  since  that  time  in  the  organization  and  the  activities  of 
the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now.  how  many  members  does  the  Conference  of 
Studio  Unions  liave  in  the  motion-picture  industry  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  right  now  that  is  a  little  indefinite,  but  at  the 
time  the  strike  was  called  they  had  about  9,000, 

Mr.  Stripling.   Nine  thousand  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.   Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.   As  compared  with 

Mr.  Brewer.  With  15,000  in  our  organization,  and  a  total  of  approx- 
imately 30,000,  including  actoi*s  and  extras. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  I  would  like  to  get  this  straight,  Mr,  Brewer : 
How  many  jurisdictional  strikes  have  there  been  in  the  motion-picture 
industry  in  the  past  10  A^ears  that  j^ou  can  recall?  Was  there  one  in 
1944? 

Mr,  Brewer,    Yes;  there  was  a  brief  strike  called  by  Mr,  SorrelL 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  In  '45  was  there  one  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  There  was  a  strike  called  on  March  12,  1945,  which 
lasted  for  about  8  months. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  there  one  in  1946?    A  new  one? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes.  There  were  two  strikes  in  1946,  There  was  a 
2-day  strike  called  on  July  2.  1946,  and  there  was  a  second  strike  called 
on  September  26.  1946,  which  has  not  as  yet  officially  ended, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  as  a  labor  official,  can  you  tell  the  committee 
whether  or  not  the  Communists  were  instrumental  in  fomenting  any 
of  these  strikes  which  you  have  labeled  jurisdictional  strikes?  What 
part  did  the  Communists  play  in  them?  So  far  as  this  committee 
is  concerned,  it  is  my  understanding  that  their  only  interest  would 
be  whether  or  not  the  Communists  have  exercised  any  influence  in 
labor  relations  or  labor  matters  within  Hollywood.  They  are  not 
concerned  with  jurisdictional  strikes  as  such, 

Mr.  Brewer.  AVell.  analyzing  Avhat  has  happened  in  the  past  and 
analyzing  the  tactics,  the  techniques,  and  the  activities  of  individuals 
in  the  present  and  immediate  past  situations,  one  can  onlv  conclude 
that  the  fundamental  purpose  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions 
Avas  to  drive  a  wedge  between  the  members  of  the  union  in  Hollywood 
and  the  official  brandies  of  their  organizations. 


352  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

All  of  the  unions  which  were  in  the — I  won't  say  all,  but  most  of 
the  unions  which  formed  the  core  of  the  unemployment  conference, 
which  Jeff  Kibre  was  describing  back  in  1939,  also  formed  the  core 
of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions.  It  is  our  firm  conviction  and 
belief  that  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  was  organized  for  that 
purpose,  and  that  the  jurisdictional  strikes  which  have  since  taken 
place  were  all  a  part  of  the  efforts  of  the  Communist  Party  to  dis- 
rupt and  destroy  the  American  Federation  of  Labor,  in  the  unions 
in  the  studios,  and  to  throw  them  into  an  industry-wide  industrial 
union  which  would  be  under  Communist  control. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  in  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions,  what 
percentage  of  the  rank-and-file  membership  would  you  say  are  Com- 
munists or  under  the  bidding  or  carrying  out  the  bidding  of  Commu- 
nists within  the  studio  unions? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  that  is  a  very  difficult  question  to  answer  because 
the  indoctrination  processes  of  those  unions  that  were  brought  into 
the  Communist  orbit  were  very  efficient.  One  of  the  very  important 
techniques  which  they  developed  was  to  insulate  the  thinking  of  these 
individuals  to  any  ideas  except  those  which  their  officers  put  before 
them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  mentioned  the  officers.  Let  me  put  this  question 
first,  then :  What  percentage  of  the  officials  of  the  Conference  of  Stu- 
dio Unions  do  you  feel  are  Communists?  Is  the  union  under  Com- 
munist domination  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  has  consistently 
follo\^ed  the  CoTnmunist  Party  line  since  its  origin.  Herbert  K. 
Sorrell  has  religiously  followed  the  Communist  Party  line,  with  per- 
haps one  minor  exception.  There  are  a  number  of  unions  in  the  Con- 
ference of  Studio  Unions  which  I  consider  to  be  completely  under 
Communist  domination. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  name  some  of  those  unions  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  first  one  is  the  Painters'  Union,  Local  64-t,  of 
which  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  is  the  principal  officer. 

The  second  one  is  the  Screen  Cartoonists  Guild,  of  which  a  Mr. 
Maurice  Howard  is  the  principal  officer. 

The  third  is  the  Screen  Story  Analysts  Guild,  which,  incidentally, 
is  a  part  of  the  Painters'  Union,  of  which  Mr.  Matty  Madison  and  Miss 
Frances  Millington  are  the  principal  officers. 

Mr.  McDoAVELL.  Mr.  Brewer,  did  you  say  that  the  Screen  Story 
Analysts  Guild  was  a  part  of  the  painters'  union  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes;  that  is  true. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well 

Mr.  Brewer.  Actually — excuse  me. 

Mr.  McDowell,  Just  what  would  be  the  connection  between  analyz- 
ing the  scripts  and  doing  some  painting? 

Mr.  Brewer.  That  is  only  a  part  of  the  very  peculiar  things  that 
happened  in  Hollywood  labor.  As  a  matter  of  fact — and  again  trying 
to  analyze  the  problem  from  a  fundamental  standpoint — it  became 
evident  to  us  that  the  painters'  union  was  being  used  by  this  Com^ 
munist  core  as  an  instrument  of  setting  up  within  this  trade-union 
structure  a  second  industrial  union.  They  took  over  not  only  the 
Screen  Story  Analysts,  but  the  i:)ainters'  union  organized  and  issued 
•charters  to  the  Screen  .Cartoonists  Guild,  to  the  Screen  Publicists 


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Guild — now,  those  are  press  agents;  those  are  the  men  who  are  the 
press  agents.  Most  of  them  are  past  newspapermen,  but  they  organ- 
ized those  men,  and  women,  and  put  them  in  the  painters'  union. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  they  could  possibly  be  in  the  painters'  union. 
But  your  idea  here — you  are  pointing  out  that  this  painters'  union  was 
attempting  to  suck  in  everything,  every  other  union,  into  itself,  for 
more  complete  control;  is  that  it? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  that  was  a  part  of  their  program.  The  first 
thing  that  they  were  trying  to  do  was  to  bring  into  the  Conference  of 
Studio  Unions  all  those  unions  that  they  could  bring  around  to  the 
Communist  Party  philosophy. 

Then,  those  groups  thnt  were  unorganized  in  the  studios  at  the  tim;e 
this  campaign  started,  in  order  to  give  them  an  international  union  in 
the  American  Federation  of  Labor  which  they  could  control,  they  put 
into  the  painters'  union. 

Now,  another  very  large  union  which  they  organized  into  the 
painters'  union  was  the  office  employees.  Those  are  stenographers^ 
clerks,  file  clerks,  and  messengers.  All  those  people  were  organized 
and  put  in  the  painters'  union,  and  then  subsequently  brought  in  and 
made  a  part  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions,  to  broaden  the  wedge 
which  they  were  driving  in  the  labor  structure  in  Hollywood. 

There  is  one  other  union  which  is  significant  and  important  that 
they  organized,  and  that  was  what  is  called  the  Set  Designers.  Now, 
that  was  a  miscellaneous  group  of  art  department  employees.  They 
included  the  set  designers,  the  illustrators,  the  sketch  artists,  and 
also  the  set  decorators  which  they  attempted  to  organize  and  eventu- 
ally did  organize  into  the  painters'  union. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  getting  back  to  my  question  concerning 
the  percentage  of  officials  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  who 
you  consider  to  be  Communists. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  I  considered,  as  I  say,  that  the  entire  Conference 
of  Studio  Unions  was  under  Communist  domination. 

Now,  there  were  some  of  the  unions  which  followed  along  with 
them  ior  the  most  part.  I  would  say  that  the  machinists'  union  was 
not  so  completely  under  their  domination  as  were  the  others,  but 
they  supported  most  of  the  Communist  Party  programs. 

Mr.  STRirLixG.  Now 

Mr.  Brewer.  So 

Mr.  Stripling.  Pardon  me. 

Mr.  Brewer.  So  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  and  all  of  those 
unions  that  were  a  part  of  the  conference  and  that  were  under  their 
influence  were  for  all  practical  purposes  a  part  of  the  Communist 
spearhead  in  the  studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  in  connection  with  these  jurisdictional  strikes 
which  you  said  the  Communists  figured  in,  was  there  any  violence  or 
was  there  evidence  of  any  of  the  typical  tactics  of  the  Communists? 

JNIr.  Brea\t:r.  Yes.  There  was  some  of  the  most  unbelievable 
amounts  of  violence  that  have  ever  appeared  on  the  scene  in  the 
American  labor  movement. 

I  have  here  a  list  of  our  members  that  were  injured  in  this  1946 
strike. 

You  see,  what  had  happened  was  that  in  1945  the  Conference  of 
Studio  Unions  for  all  practical  purposes  had  lost  the  strike.     They 


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had  to  close  the  studios  down  in  order  to  make  their  strike  effective. 
And  recognizing  that  the  purpose  of  closing  the  studios  down  was 
to  destroy  our  union,  it  naturally  became  paramount  to  our  interests 
that  they  not  succeed  in  that  endeavor.  So  we  announced  at  the  time 
that  if  they  persisted  in  prosecuting  a  jurisdictional  strike  against  our 
unions  in  an  effort  to  wrest  from  our  union  jurisdiction  which  had 
been  traditionally  ours  in  the  studios,  we  would  resist  it. 

So,  for  all  practical  purposes,  by  the  1st  of  October  that  strike  had 
been  lost.  Efforts  and  conferences  had  been  made  for  settlement,  but 
without  success. 

On  October  5,  there  appeared  at  Warner  Bros,  studio  mass  picket 
lines,  which  according  to  the  stated  intent  of  their  leaders  were  de- 
signed to  prevent  by  physical  force  anyone  from  going  through  into 
the  studios. 

As  a  result  of  these  mass  picket  lines,  a  complete  state  of  anarchy 
was  created  at  Warner  Bros,  studio.  The  management  of  that 
studio  could  not  get  into  his  own  studio.  The  police  department  at- 
tempted to  cope  with  it,  but  found  themselves  completely  unable  to 
do  so,  with  the  result  that  pressure  was  brought  to  bear  on  various 
groups,  and  eventually  that  strike  was  settled. 

However,  after  the  strike  was  settled,  an  investigation  was  entered 
into  by  another  committee  of  the  California  Legislature,  headed  by 
C.  Don  Field.  They  found  positive  evidence,  in  an  official  report,  of 
Communist  activities  in  those  picket  lines. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  didn't  need  a  report  of  the  committee  on  law 
and  order  of  the  State  legislature  to  tell  us,  because  in  the  mass  picket 
lines  there  w^ere  a  number  of  prominent  people  who  had  been  identified 
with  Communist  activities.  Among  them  was  Mr.  John  Howard  Law- 
son,  who  was  arrested  in  those  mass  picket  lines. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  mean  he  was  walking  the  picket  line  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes ;  he  was.  In  addition  to  Mr.  John  Howard  Law- 
son,  there  were  other  persons,  who  were  not  involved  in  the  strike  so 
far  as  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  were  concerned,  who  were 
there  and  who  said  they  were  observers,  but  who  actually  were  assist- 
ing, in  our  opinion,  in  creating  the  chaos  and  the  anarchy  that  existed 
there. 

Mr.  McDowell.  They  were  a  part  of  the  film  industry? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes. 

Mr.  McDowell.  They  were 

Mr.  Brewer.  And  I  have  the  names  of  some  of  the  prominent  ones, 
if  you  would  like  to  have  them. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Yes ;  name  some  of  them. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Mr.  John  Garfield,  Mr.  John  Wexley,  Mr.  Sidney 
Buchman,  Mr.  Howard  Koch,  Mr.  Larry  Adler,  Mr.  Lewis  Milestone, 
Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo,  Mr.  Gary  McWiUiams,  Mr.  Fi-ank  Tuttle,  Mr. 
Robert  Kossen,  Mr.  William  Pomerance,  and  Mr.  John  Howard 
Lawson. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brewer,  can  you  tell  us  whether  or  not  it  was  at 
Warner  Bros,  studios  that  the  automobiles  were  overturned? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes ;  automobiles  were  overturned.  Hundreds  of  men 
were  attacked.  Automobiles  were  smashed.  And  on  certain  days  they 
cleaned  up  tons  of  broken  bottles  and  bricks  and  stones  that  were  used 
in  an  effort  to  forcibly  prevent  members,  fellow  members  of  the  Ameri- 


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C'lxn  Federation  of  Labor,  from  going  to  work  and  fulfilling  their  con- 
tracts with  the  studios. 

Mr.  Strii'Ling.  Well,  then,  Mr.  Brewer,  wouldn't  the  National  Labor 
Relations  Board  have  jurisdiction  in  a  matter  of  this  kind  ? 

Mr.  Bhea\t:r.  Well,  that  I  think,  perhaps,  is  a  legal  question. 

Mv.  Stiupling.  In  otlier  words,  did  any  phase  of  the  jurisdictional 
strikes  come  Avithin  the  purview  of  the  National  Labor  Relations 
Board? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  the  1945  strike  was  called 
at  a  time  when  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  was  conducting  a 
hearing  into  the  very  question  about  which  the  strike  was  presumably 
called.  That  was  the  question  of  representation  of  the  set  decorators 
in  the  studios.  Tlie  hearing  had  started,  on  a  Monday  previously,  and 
the  hearing  had  gone  for  1  week.  The  Conference  of  Studio  Unions 
had  placed  their  side  of  the  story  into  the  record.  The  hearing  had 
recessed  and  was  to  take  up  the  following  Monday,  when  the  lATSE 
was  to  liave  had  its  opportunity  to  present  its  case. 

On  the  Monday  morning  of  March  12,  the  strike  was  called. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Who  presided  in  that  hearing  of  the  National  Labor 
Relations  Board? 

Mr.  Brewer.  At  that  particular  hearing  I  can't  say,  Mr,  Stripling. 
I  didn't  attend  them  because  I  was  busy  with  the  activities  in  connec- 
tion with  the  strike. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  did  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  suc- 
ceed in  any  way  in  alleviating  the  situation  directly  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Actually,  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  did 
eventually  hand  down  a  decision  and  held  an  election.  The  election 
was  held  and  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  won  the  election  by 
a  rather  small  margin.    But  that  did  not  end  the  strike. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Why  didn't  it  end  the  strike  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  by  that  time  all  of  these  other  unions  were  out 
in  support  of  them.  They  were  making  demands.  The  situation  had 
become  so  comj^licated  that  new  issues  had  entered  into  it,  and  the 
strike  continued  on  for  several  months  after  the  results  of  the  election 
were  made  known. 

Now.  there  is  a  great  deal  more  that  I  would  like  to  say  about  this 
violence. 

The  strike  in  1945  was  settled.    But  in  1946,  on  September  26,  the- 
mass  picket  lines  were  taken  up  right  where  they  left  off  at  Warner 
Brothers  in  1945.    The  violence  that  took  place  in  the  1946  strike  was 
equal  in  intensity  to  that  which  existed  in  1945. 

We  were  a  little  more  used  to  that  sort  of  thing  by  1946.  I  have 
here — which  I  will  leave  with  the  committee — a  complete  report  of 
the  personal  injuries  of  our  members  and  members  of  other  A.  F.  of  L. 
unions  in  the  1946  strike. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Brewer 

Mr.  Brewt:r.  Some  300  in  number. 

The  Chairman.  ]\Iay  I  ask  a  question  right  here?  Would  you  say 
definitely  that  this  violence  was  due  to  the  Communist  influence  in 
those  unions  and  the  Communist  influence  on  the  picket  lines? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  will  say  definitely,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  had  it  not 
been  for  the  Communist  activities  in  the  motion-picture  studio  unions, 
there  would  have  been  no  strikes.     And  the  violence — as  I  said,  there 


356  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

is  an  official  report  here  whicli  said  that  much  of  the  violence  was  the 
direct  result  of  Communist  infiltration. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  from  your  own  opinion,  would  you  say  that 
the  violence  on  the  picket  lines  was  due  to  the  Communists  on  the 
picket  lines? 

Mr.  Brew' ER.  ]\Iuch  of  it ;  yes. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  what  do  you  mean  by  "much"?  Do  you 
mean  25  percent  or  75  percent,  or 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  the  picket-line  activities  were  organized  and  di- 
rected by  Herbert  K.  Sorrell — all  of  them.     He  was  the  leader. 

The  Chairman.  Who,  in  your  opinion,  is  a  Communist? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Who,  in  my  opinion,  is  a  Communist.  And  in  the 
organization  of  all  of  the  activities  he  was  assisted  by  men  who,  in 
my  opinion,  are  Communists  and  are  still  active  in  the  Hollywood 
studio  situation. 

The  Chairman.  We  will  just  suspend  for  a  few  minutes.  Mr. 
Stripling,  come  up  here,  please. 

(Hearing  suspends.) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  before  me  the  statement  that  Mr. 
Brewer  sought  to  introduce  at  the  beginning  of  his  testimony  this 
morning,  and  it  impresses  me  as  being  relevant,  comprehensive,  and 
informative  and  of  value  to  the  intent  and  purpose  of  this  committee. 
It  is  my  suggestion  that  the  witness  be  permitted  to  read  that  statement. 

The  Chairman.  I  have  looked  over  the  statement.  The  statement 
is  pertinent.  And  Mr.  McDowell  agrees.  You  go  ahead  and  read 
the  statement  at  this  time. 

Mr.  Brewer.  In  response  to  your  subpena,  I  welcome  the  oppor- 
tunity to  present  to  this  committee  the  evidence  which  I  have  of 
Communist  infiltration  into  the  Hollywood  studio  unions.  I  am 
sure  that  tlije  30,000  employees  now  working  in  the  Hollyw^ood  studios, 
of  which  our  union  represents  approximately  one-half,  are  fully  con- 
scious of  the  responsibility  w^hich  the  committee  has  in  this  matter. 

The  story  of  Communist  infiltration  and  intrigue  which  this  com- 
mittee is  revealing  to  the  American  people  is  not  new  to  us.  We  have 
been  resisting  it  for  more  than  10  years.  I  shall  present  evidence 
which  I  think  will  conclusively  establish  the  fact  that  there  is,  and 
there  has  been,  a  real  Communist  plot  to  capture  our  union  in  Holly- 
wood, as  a  part  of  the  Communist  plan  to  control  the  motion-picture 
industry  as  a  whole.  The  plan  came  dangerously  close  to  success.  I 
am  happy  to  say  that  thus  far  it  has  failed. 

The  plan,  as  we  see  it,  was  for  Communist  forces,  led  by  Mr.  Jeff 
Kibre,  Communist  agent  sent  to  Hollywood  in  1935,  and  his  successor, 
Herbert  K.  Sorrell,  to  infiltrate  and  control  Hollywood  technical 
labor,  while  other  Communist  forces  led  by  Mr.  John  Howard  Lawson, 
whose  activities  have  been  effectively  described  here,  were  to  infiltrate 
and  control  the  talent  guilds  and  so-called  cultural  groups  in  the 
industry.  At  the  appropriate  time  these  two  forces  were  to  be  joined 
in  one  over-all  industrial  union  set-up  under  complete  Communist 
domination.  Our  international  union,  the  lATSE,  found  itself  as 
the  one  real  effective  force  standing  in  the  way  of  this  program. 

Having  failed  to  control  our  organization  in  Hollywood,  the  Com- 
munists found  it  necessary  to  seek  to  destroy  it.  Fomenting  and  ag- 
gravating jurisdictional  irritations  existing  in  the  trade-union  struc- 


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ture  in  the  studios,  the  Communists  in  1944,  1945,  1946,  and  1947 
engineered  and  maintained  a  running  series  of  jurisdictional  strikes 
against  our  union.  The  real  urpose  of  these  strikes  was  the  weaken- 
ing and  ultimate  destruction  of  the  lATSE,  which  was  the  recognized 
bulwark  against  Communist  seizure  of  the  studio  unions. 

Had  those  strikes  been  successful,  and  the  lATSE  been  defeated, 
we  are  sure  that  the  few  remaining  forces  of  resistance  would  have 
easily  succumbed  to  the  unbelivable  effective  machine  which  the  Com- 
munist movement  had  built  in  southern  California  in  1944.  With  a 
Connnunist-controlled  union  representing  all  Holyw^oocl  technical  labor 
supporting  a  Screen  Writers  Guild,  through  which  only  pro-Com- 
munist writers  could  get  into  the  industry,  we  believe  that  the  screen 
would  have  been  effectively  captured,  notwithstanding  the  good  inten- 
tions of  the  producers  of  motion  pictures. 

Wliile  tliis  Communist  plan  has  been  defeated  thus  far,  we  have 
not  been  successful  in  this  fight  without  tremendous  effort  on  the  part 
of  the  real  A.  F.  of  L.  unions  in  the  studios  and  a  tremendous  sacrifice 
on  the  part  of  many  of  our  members.  Hollywood  workers  have  fought 
valiantly  to  prevent  their  unions  from  becoming  an  adjunct  of  Soviet 
foreign  policy.  Hundreds  have  suffered  personal  injuries.  Homes 
have  been  bombed,  automobiles  destroyed,  and  children  threatened. 
Intimidation  and  coercion  have  cause  many  to  live  for  weeks  in  terror. 

Some  may  say  that  the  Hollywood  story  is  a  figment  of  a  motion- 
picture  make-believe;  but  to  our  members  in  the  Hollywood  unions, 
it  is  very  real  indeed.  To  them  it  has  meant  the  pitting  of  workers 
against  workers,  brother  rgainst  brother;  yes — and  even  husband 
against  wife.  Thus  have  the  Communists  sought  to  justify  their 
slogan  that  the  end  justifies  the  means. 

The  trend  of  the  time  has  aided  our  cause.  Important  persons  in 
the  industry  who  a  few  years  ago  greeted  our  story  as  too  fantastic  to 
believe,  are  now  looking  at  it  with  recognition  and  concern.  But 
we  know  from  expei-ience  that  the  Communists  will  not  give  up — 
the  prize  is  too  great.  We  hope,  therefore,  that  with  the  help  of  the 
committee,  the  Communist  menace  in  the  motion-picture  industry  may 
be  successfully  destroyed,  to  the  end  that  Hollywood  labor  may  be 
spared  in  the  future  the  strife  and  turmoil  of  the  immediate  past. 

We  shall  continue  to  fight,  to  expose,  and  to  remove  the  Communist 
menace  from  our  trade-unions,  so  that,  in  keeping  with  our  American 
system,  our  labor  organizations  may  continue  to  be  free,  clean,  progres- 
sive, patriotic,  and  democratic,  with  continued  improvement  of  work- 
ing conditions  and  maintenance  of  adequate  security  for  the  many 
thousands  of  employees  in  this  gTeat  American  industry. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

]Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Brewer,  were  you  here  when  Mr.  Trumbo  tes- 
tified ? 

Mr.  Brew^er.  Yes:  I  was. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  observed  him  when  he  refused  to  testify? 

Mr.  Brewt.r.  Yes;  I  did. 

Mr.  IMcDowELL.  Did  you  observe  his  actions  when  he  was  asked  if 
he  belonged  to  the  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  did. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Would  it  offend  you  if  I,  or  if  any  other  person, 
would  ask  you  if  you  belong  to  a  labor  union  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  It  certainly  would  not. 


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Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  do  you  know  of  any  other  American  member 
of  a  labor  union,  of  which  there  are  millions  and  millions  in  this 
country,  who  would  be  offended  or  who  would  conclude  that  some 
right  was  being  violated  if  that  were  asked  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  see  no  reason  at  all  why  today  a  man  should  deny 
his  membership  in  an  American  trade-union — none  at  all. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  have  become  out  there  in  recent  years  a  very 
vigorous  and  well-known  fighter  against  communism.  It  has  been 
almost  the  100-percent  experience  of  every  person  who  is  opposed  to 
communism,  who  has  come  before  this  committee  or  in  any  other 
way,  to  have  been  smeared  in  some  fashion.  Has  that  happened  to 
you? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  should  say  so.  I  have  been  smeared  as  a  Fascist 
and  a  reactionary  and  a  company  union  official,  and  everything  elsa 

Mr.  McDowell.  A  tool  of  the  producers  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  A  tool,  yes — tool  of  the  employers  and  associated  with 
reactionaries — about  anything  else  that  could  be  said  along  that  line 
has  been  said  about  me. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Have  you  been  called  a  religious  bigot  or  an  anti- 
religious  person,  or  whatever  happened  to  fit  at  the  moment  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  not  effectively.  There  have  been  a  couple  of 
times  when  rumors  have  been  circulated,  but  I  think  they  were  pretty 
effectively  squelched. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Have  your  personal  morals  been  attacked  by  these 
people? 

Mr.  Brewer.  I  don't  think  they  have;  not  to  my  knowledge. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  you  have  missed  something.    [Laughter.] 

Have  they  disturbed  your  comfort — the  comfort  of  your  home  life 
at  all  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  as  a  matter  or  fact,  there  was  one  period  during 
the  activities  in  this  situation  when  my  home  was  guarded  for  a  period 
of  about  6  or  8  weeks.  I  had  a  guard  every  night.  As  a  matter  of 
fact,  I  received  a  threatening  phone  call  and  was  told  that  if  I  didn't 
change  my  position  with  respect  to  one  of  our  own  unions  that  had 
come  under  the  domination  of  the  Communists,  I  wouldn't  have  any 
home.  I  put  a  guard  around  the  home  that  night.  At  3  o'clock  that 
morning  there  was  a  suspicious  car  stop;  and  an  unarmed  officer  whom 
we  had  employed  stepped  out  to  the  car,  and  they  left.  From  that 
time  on,  for  a  period  of  some  8  weeks,  my  home  was  guarded.  I  have 
a  wife  and  two  children  who  I  felt  needed  that  protection. 

Mr.  McDowELT..  Well,  Mr.  Brewer,  do  you  suppose  if  you  had  none 
before  these  people  and  began  to  scream  that  this  is  the  way  Hitler 
started  things,  and  your  constitutional  rights  were  being  subject  to 
illegal  pressure,  and  so  forth,  that  would  have  stopped  everything? 
You  would  have  been  free  from  then  on  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  I  found  that  unless  you  have  a  pretty  good  or- 
ganization behind  you,  no  one  can  hear  your  screams  over  the  screams 
that  have  preceded  you. 

Mr.  McDowELTv.  In  other  words,  about  the  only  way  to  protect 
yourself  out  there  was  with  a  club,  wasn't  it  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Well,  yes.  We  had  to  have  protection  from  the  activi- 
ties which  were  carried  on,  as  the  evidence  shows.  As  a  matter  of 
fact,  there  is  without  a  question  of  a  doubt  an  underground  smear 
organization  in  the  motion-picture  studios  that  works  very  effectively. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  359 

It  is  understandable,  if  you  analyze  how  they  work.  They  will  pick 
up  some  particular  phase  of  some  story  which  they  want  to  amplify 
and  distort.  Sometimes  it's  a  story  such  as  one  that  was  circulated 
about  me — that  I  had  been  run  out  of  the  city  of  Omaha  for  selling 
out  to  workers.  That  story  appeared  all  of  a  sudden  all  over  Holly- 
wood, and  it  was,  I  am  sure,  as  the  result  of  a  preconceived  and  clearly 
executed  plan.  That  is  just  one  example  of  the  many  which  we  have 
been  able  to  detect  in  their  activities. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Thank  you.    You  have  been  a  good  witness. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Striplixg,.  I  have  no  more  questions  at  this  time.  I  understand 
that  the  witness  is  to  be  recalled,  Mr.  Chairman  ? 

The  Chairman.  The  witness  will  be  recalled  some  time  this  after- 
noon.   So,  would  you  stand  by,  Mr.  Brewer  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  There  are  several  matters  that  I  would  like  to  put 
in  the  record,  which  you  asked  for. 

The  Chairman.  Oo  ahead. 

Mr.  Stripling.  On  Jack  Statchel,  Mr.  Chairman — he  is  a  member 
of  the  National  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party.  He  is  national 
director  of  the  trade-union  division  of  the  Communist  Party.  At  the 
Communist  Party  convention  held  January  30,  1936,  in  Cleveland, 
he  made  a  report  on  the  trade-union  work  at  the  convention.  He  lias 
also  been  a  member  of  the  New  York  State  Trade  Union  Commission 
of  the  Communist  Party.    He  is  a  very  well-known  Communist  figure. 

Now,  Mr.  Chairman,  this  morning,  when  Mr.  Trumbo  appeared 
before  the  committee.  I  failed  to  put  into  the  record  the  subpena  which 
called,  for  his  appearance.  I  would  like  at  this  time  to  make  the 
record  clear  on  this  point.^'' 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Also  to  include  therein  two  telegrams  which  were 
sent  to  ISIr.  Trumbo  in  connection  with  his  appearance  here. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

(The  subpena  and  telegrams  are  as  follows:) 

Washington,  D.  C,  October  13,  19Jf7. 
Dalton  Trimbo, 

Care  of  Metro-Goldwyn-ifayer,  Culver  City,  Calif.: 
In  resjK'iise  to  the  subpena  served  upon  you  summoning  you  to  appear  before 
the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  United  States  House  of  Representa- 
tives, in  Washington,  D.  C.  on  October  23,  you  are  hereby  directed  to  appear  on 
October  27  instead  of  October  23,  at  the  hour  of  10  :  30,  room  226,  Old  House  Office 
Building. 

J.  Paenell  Thomas,  Chairman. 

Committee  on  Un-J.merican  Activities, 

House  of  Representatives, 
Washington,  D.  C,  October  11,  1947. 
Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo, 

1217  North  Kings  Road,  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  or 

Lazy  T  Ranch,  Stauffer.  Ventura  County,  Calif.: 
In  response  to  tlie  sui)p9na  served  upon  yon  summoning  you  to  appear  before 
the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  United  States  House  of  Representa- 
tives, in  Washington.  D.  C,  October  23,  you  are  hereby  directed  to  appear  on 
October  27  instead  of  October  23,  at  the  hour  of  10:  30  a.  m.,  room  226,  Old  House 
Office  Building. 

J.  Parnei.i.  Thomas,  Chairman. 


**  See  appendix,  p.  .540.  for  exhibits  68-70. 


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(Original— 32080,   vol.   58,  p.  421) 

By  autJwrity  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the  United 

States  of  America. 
To  RoBEBT  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal: 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Dalton  Trumbo  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  the  Honorable  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is 
chairman,  in  their  chambers  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23,  1947,  at 
the  hour  of  10:30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry 
committed  to  said  committee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States  in  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  September  1947. 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  stand  in  recess  until  2  o'clock 
this  afternoon. 

(Whereupon,  at  12 :  30  p.  m.,  a  recess  was  taken  until  2  p.  m.  of 
the  same  day.) 

Attest :  J.  Parnell  Thomas. 

STATEMENT  OF  PAUL  V.  McNUTT 

AFTER    RECESS 

The  committee  reconvened  at  2  p.  m.,  pursuant  to  the  recess. 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  request  permission  to 
bring  a  matter  to  the  attention  of  your  committee. 

The  Chairman.  And  will  you  please  identify  yourself  for  the 
record  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  am  Paul  V.  McNutt.  I  am  here  as  counsel  for  the 
Motion  Picture  Association  and  the  Association  of  Motion  Picture 
Producers. 

The  Chairman.  You  may  proceed. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Yesterday  afternoon 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  AVhat  do  you  have,  a  long  state- 
ment ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  No ;  it  is  not  a  long  statement. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  see  the  statement  ? 

(The  statement  was  handed  to  the  chairman.) 

The  Chairman.  Just  show  a  copy  to  Mr.  Stripling,  please. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  have  only  the  two  copies. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  give  it  back  to  you. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  All  right,  Mr.  Stripling. 

(A  copy  of  the  statement  was  handed  to  Mr.  Stripling.) 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please,  Mr.  McNutt. 

(After  a  pause:) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McNutt,  we  will  be  pleased  to  have  you  read 
this  statement. 

Mr.  McNutt.  Do  you  wish  me  to  sit  down  ? 

The  Chairman.  No;  it  makes  no  difference  whether  you  sit  down 
or  stand  up,  but  I  would  like  to  know,  the  coimnittee  would  like  to 
know,  first,  who  you  are  now  speaking  for. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  am  speaking  for  the  Motion  Picture  Association  of 
America  and  the  Association  of  Motion  Picture  Producers. 

The  Chairman.  And  will  you  please  tell  the  committee  who  are 
members  of  the  Motion  Picture  Association  of  America  ? 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  361 

Mr.  MoNuTT.  I  am  perfectly  willing  to  put  into  the  record  the  list. 
The    CiiAiRMAX.  No.     You    tell    the    committee.     You    represent 

them. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  represent  all  of  the  larger  motion-picture  pro- 
ducers. 

The  Chairman.  Who  are  they  ?     Name  them,  please. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Warner  Brothers,  there  is  M-G-M,  there  is  Fox— it 
goes  on  down  the  line. 

The  CiiAiRMAX.  I  see. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  And  I  should  like  to  put  in  the  record,  with  the  chair- 
man's permission,  all  of  those. 

The  Chairman.  Can  you  name  any  more? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Yes;  1  can  go  on  down  the  line.  Let  me  have  the 
complete  list. 

The  Chairman.  No.     You  represent  them, 

Mr.  McNuTT.  That  is  right  but,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  there  are  some 
60  names  on  1. 

The  Chairman,  Can  you  remember  four  or  five  more? 

]\Ir.  McNuTT.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Name  them,  please. 

]Mr.  McNuTT.  I  have  named  AYarner  Brothers,  M-G-M,  Twentieth 
Century-Fox;  the  Universal  is  on  that  list,  the  Warner  Bros.  Studio; 
there  are  practically  all  of  tlie  larger  studios. 

Tlie  Chairman.  All  right.     You  proceed. 

Mr,  McNuTT.  I  have  not  memorized  the  members. 

The  Chairman.  I  see, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  McNutt,  do  you  represent  Charlie  Chaplin?' 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  do  not  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT,  He  is  not  a  member  of  either  association. 

The  Chairman.  And  do  you  represent  these  witnesses  that  we  have 
had  here  these  last  2  days  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  do  not,  Mr.  Chairman, 

The  Chairman.  But  you  do  represent  Mr.  Warner? 

Mr,  McNuTT.  Mr.  Warner's  organization  is  a  member  of  the  asso- 
ciation. 

The  Chairman.  And  you  represent  Mr.  Mayer  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Mr,  Mayer's  company  is  a  member  of  the  association. 

The  Chairman.  And  they  know  about  this  statement  that  you  are 
going  to  read? 

Mr.  McNuTT,  They  do,  R-K-0  is  another  member  of  the  associ- 
ation. 

The  Chairman.  Let  me  ask  you  this 

]\Ir.  ISIcNuTT.  Yes, 

The  Chairman.  Do  Mr.  Warner  and  Mr.  Mayer  personally  know 
about  this  statement? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Mr.  Mayer  does. 

The  Chairman.  Mr,  Warner  does  not  know  about  it  ? 

Mr,  McNuTT.  Not  that  I  know  of. 

The  Chairman.  You  may  proceed. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Yesterday  afternoon  the  organizations  I  represent 
were  accused  of  having  tried  to  stifle  this  inquiry.  This  charge  was 
made  against  us  without  proof  and  on  the  basis  of  insinuation  and 
innuendo. 


362  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

This  is  a  charge  which  does  grave  damage  to  our  industry  and  seri- 
ously reflects  on  the  personal  integrity,  loyalty,  and  patriotism  of  in- 
dividuals associated  with  it. 

We  cannot  stand  by  and  allow  these  vicious  charges  to  go  unchal- 
lenged before  the  public. 

In  the  chairman's  own  words,  we  were  accused  of  trying  to  get  the 
committee  to  "lay  off"  the  investigation. 

I  quote  the  chairman: 

We  had  some  very  prominent  persons  in  this  country  who,  either  through 
you — 

addressing  Mr.  Eric  Johnston — 

or  someone  you  are  associated  with,  contacted  and  got  in  touch  with  us  and 
asked  us  to  lay  off  or  postpone  it. 

The  chairman  also  said : 

And  then  we  have  had  others  get  in  touch  with  some  of  our  investigators  who 
tried  all  the  tricks  of  the  trade,  to  find  ovit  what  we  were  going  to  do.  One  man 
went  so  far  as  to — he  didn't  offer  anything,  but  I  want  to  tell  you  he  gave  all 
the  signs  of  an  offer — all  the  signs  of  an  offer. 

Does  the  committee  have  any  proof  of  these  gratuitous  insinuations? 
We  wiint  to  know.    The  public  is  entitled  to  know. 

If  the  charges  can't  stand  the  light  of  day  in  open  and  aboveboard 
discussion,  they  should  not  be  made. 

The  committee  has  stated  it  intends  to  conduct  a  fair  hearing  and 
give  the  American  public  all  the  facts.  Insinuation  and  innuendo  are 
never  fair  and  are  not  facts. 

With  respect  to  postponement  of  the  hearings,  I  wish  to  quote  from 
11  press  release  issued  by  the  chairman  on  September  19,  1947.  The 
chairman  said : 

The  committee  had  originally  hoped  to  begin  this  hearing  on  September  29. 
However,  a  number  of  unfoi'eseen  circumstances  have  arisen  regarding  the 
membership  of  the  committee  which  necessitates  a  delay  until  October  20,  in 
order  that  all  members  may  be  present  for  this  important  hearing. 

Our  position  in  that  respect  coincides  precisely  with  that  of  the 
chairman. 

From  the  very  beginning,  we  have  wanted  all  members  of  this  com- 
mittee in  presence  at  these  hearings.  The  chairman  did  not  over- 
emphasize it  when  he  said  the  importance  of  these  hearings  demanded 
the  presence  of  the  full  committee. 

We  wanted  all  members  present  to  hear  our  story.  We  wanted  them 
present  so  that  this  investigation  would  be  the  investigation  to  end 
all  investigations  of  Hollywood  by  the  committee. 

At  no  time  did  we  want  to  stifle  the  inquiry.  The  truth  is  we  re- 
peatedly asked  for  a  full,  fair,  and  conclusive  hearing  because  we 
want  to  see  Communists  exposed  wherever  they  may  be. 

Yet  at  another  point  in  yesterday's  hearing,  the  chairman  said 
that— 

It  makes  no  difference  whether  you  have  got  glamour  girls  out  there  or 
whether  you  have  got  a  lot  of  funds  behind  you  or  not,  if  there  are  Communists 
in  that  industry  we  are  going  to  expose  them. 

Statements  and  innuendoes  of  the  kind  made  at  yesterday's  hearings 
hardly  becomes  a  committee  of  the  Congress  which  has  expressed 
its  intention  to  conduct  a.fair  and  impartial  hearing. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  363 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McNutt,  the  Chair  appreciates  your  contri- 
bution and  the  Chair  will  reply  to  you  in  a  very  full  and  detailed 
manner. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Thank  you,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  In  the  meantime,  however,  the  Chair  would  like 
to  make  two  inquiries  of  you. 

Does  your  organization  employ  Mr.  Cahill  ^ 

Mr.  McNuTT.  It  does. 

The  Chairman.  Did  you  know  that  Mr.  Cahill  went  down  to  our 
committee  chambers  a  number  of  times  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  did. 

The  Chairman.  And  for  what  reason  clid  he  go  down  there  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  To  get  whatever  information  the  committee  was  will- 
ing to  offer  us  in  order  that  we  might  be  prepared. 

The  Chairman.  Exactly;  to  get  whatever  information.  You  an- 
swered  it  yourself. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Certainly. 

The  Chairman.  And  he  didn't  get  any. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  In  order  that  we  might  be  prepared,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  I  would  like  to  ask  you  another  question. 

]\Ir.  McNuTT.  All  right. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  know  a  Mr.  Rosner  who  li.ves  up  here  at 
the  Shoreham  Hotel  ? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  do  not  know  Mr.  Rosner. 

The  Chairman.  Have  you  ever  heard  of  Mr.  Rosner? 

Mr.  McNuTT.  I  have  heard  something  of  him. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  all ;  thank  you. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  We  have  nothing  to  do  with  Mr.  Rosner,  if  you  want 
to  know  the  trutli  about  it. 

The  Chairman.  All  right. 

Mr.  McNuTT.  Disclaim  anything  in  that  regard. 

The  Chairman,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  The  next  witnes,  Mr.  Chairman,  will  be  Mr.  Albert 
Mahz. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Maltz,  will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is 
the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Maltz.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ALBERT  MALTZ   (ACCOMPANIED  BY  ROBERT  W. 
KENNY  AND  BARTLEY  CRUM) 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Maltz,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  present 
address  for  the  record,  please? 

Mr.  Maltz.  My  name  is  Albert  Maltz.  I  live  at  6526  Linden  Hurst 
Avenue.  Los  Angeles. 

^Ir.  Chairman,  I  would  like  the  privilege  of  making  a  statement, 
please. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  have  a  [jrepared  statement? 

Mr.  Maltz.  I  have  a  prepared  statement. 

The  Chairman.  May  we  see  it,  please? 


364  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Maltz.  May  I  ask  whether  you  asked  Mr.  Gerald  L.  K.  Smith 
to  see  his  statement  before  you  allowed  him  to  read  it? 

The  Chairman.  I  wasn't  chairman  at  tliat  time. 

Mr.  Maltz.  Nevertheless  you  were  on  the  committee,  Mr.  Thomas, 
wei-e  you  not  ? 

The  Chairman.  I  asked  him  a  great  many  questions  and  he  had  a 
hard  time  answering  some  of  them,  too. 

Mr.  Maltz.  I  am  interested  in  that,  but  I  still  would  like  to  know 
whether  he  had  his  statement  read  before  he  was  permitted  to  read  it. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  we  will  look  at  yours. 

Mr.  Maltz.  I  gather  that  you  don't  want  to  answer  my  question, 
Mr.  Chairman. 

(After  a  pause :) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Maltz,  the  committee  is  unanimous  in  per- 
mitting you.  to  read  the  statement. 

Mr.  Maltz.  Thank  you. 

I  am  an  American  and  I  believe  there  is  no  more  proud  word  in 
the  vocabulary  of  man.  I  am  a  novelist  and  a  screen  writer  and  I 
have  produced  a  certain  body  of  work  in  the  past  15  years.  As  with 
any  other  writer,  what  I  have  written  has  come  from  the  total  fabric 
of  my  life — my  birth  in  this  land,  our  schools  and  games,  our  atmos- 
phere of  freedom,  our  tradition  of  inquiry,  criticism,  discussion, 
tolerance.  Whatever  I  am,  America  has  made  me.  And  I,  in  turn, 
possess  no  loyalty  as  great  as  the  one  I  have  to  this  land,  to  tlie  eco- 
nomic and  social  welfare  of  its  people,  to  the  perpetuation  and  develop- 
ment of  its  democractic  way  of  life. 

Now  at  the  age  of  39,  I  am  commanded  to  appear  before  the  House 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities.  For  a  full  week  this  commit- 
tee has  encouraged  an  assortment  of  well-rehearsed  witnesses  to  testify 
that  I  and  others  are  subversive  and  un-American.  It  has  refused 
us  the  opportunity  that  any  pickpocket  receives  in  a  magistrate's 
court — the  right  to  cross-examine  these  witnesses,  to  refute  their 
testimony,  to  reveal  their  motives,  their  history,  and  who.  exactly, 
they  are.  Furthermore  it  grants  these  witnesses  congressional  im- 
mimity  so  that  we  may  not  sue  them  for  libel  for  their  slanders. 

I  maintain  that  this  is  an  evil  and  vicious  procedure;  that  it  is 
legally  unjust  and  morally  indecent — and  that  it  places  in  danger 
every  other  American,  since  if  the  rights  of  any  one  citizen  can  be 
invaded,  then  the  constitutional  guaranties  of  every  other  American 
have  been  subverted  and  no  one  is  any  longer  protected  from  official 
tyranny. 

What  is  it  about  me  that  this  committee  wishes  to  destroy?  My 
writings?     Very  well,  let  us  refer  to  them. 

My  novel.  The  Cross  and  the  Arrow,  was  issued  in  a  special  edition 
of  140,000  copies  by  a  wartime  Government  agency,  the  armed  services 
edition,  for  American  servicemen .  abroad. 

My  short  stories  have  been  reprinted  in  over  30  anthologies,  by  as 
many  American  publishers — all  subversive,  no  doubt. 

My  film.  The  Pride  of  the  Marines,  was  premiered  in  28  cities  at 
(hiadalcanal  Day  banquets  imder  the  auspices  of  the  United  States 
Marine  C()rj)S. 

Another  film.  Destination  Tokyo,  was  j)remiered  aboard  a  United 
States  submarine  and  was  adopted  by  the  Navy  as  an  official  training 
film. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  365 

My  short  film,  The  House  I  Live  In,  was  given  a  special  award  by 
the  Academy  of  Motion  Picture  Arts  and  Sciences  for  its  contribution 
to  racial  tolerance. 

My  short  story,  The  Happiest  JSIan  on  Earth,  won  the  li);>8  O.  Henry 
Meiuorial  Award  for  the  best  American  short  story. 

This,  then,  is  the  body  of  work  for  which  this  committee  ur^es  I  be 
blacldisted  in  the  film  industry — and  tomorrow,  if  it  has  its  way 
in  the  publishine  Kremlin  in  Moscow.  The  Daily 
Woi'ker  for  February  10.  19.34.  listed  Albert  IMaltz  as  a  spr'aker  at  a  John  Reed 
Club  svmr>osium  in  New  York  City. 

6.  Other  Communist  individuals  have  been  defended  bv  Albert  Maltz  on  a 
number  of  occasions.     Mr.  Maltz  is  a  member  of  the  Eisler  Defense  Committee, 


■^  Rpp  pp.  l-'i2-157  for  complptp  tPxt. 
»»See  pp.  158-1 02  for  complete  text. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  373 

which  the  Communists  organized  after  Gerhart  Eisler,  an  agent  of  llie  Com- 
munist International,  was  convicted  in  the  United  States  courts  of  passport 
fraud  and  contempt  of  Congress.  Mr.  Malt//  affiliation  with  the  organization 
is  recorded  in  a  pamphlet  of  the  conunittee,  entitled  "Eisler  Hits  Back,"  page 
15.  Mr.  Maltz  also  signed  an  api)eal  to  the  President  under  the  auspices  of  the 
Citizens  Committee  to  Free  Earl  Browder,  according  to  a  leaflet  of  the  organiza- 
tion. Earl  Browder  is  the  former  general  secretary  of  the  Communist  Party  in 
the  United  States.  The  committee  in  his  defense  was  cited  as  a  Communist 
organization  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  (Congressional  Record,  September 
24,  1942,  p.  7687)  and  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
on  March  29,  1944.  The  New  York  Times  for  October  9,  1944,  page  12,  listed 
Albert  Maltz  as  a  signer  of  an  open  letter  sent  to  Governor  Dewey  of  New  York 
by  the  Schappes  Defense  Committee.  This  committee  worked  for  the  release 
of  Morris  U.  Schappes,  an  avowed  Communist  teacher  convicted  of  perjury  in 
New  York  City,  and  the  committee  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  ITn-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  The  Daily 
Worker  for  December  19,  1940,  page  5,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  signers 
of  an  appeal  on  behalf  of  Sam  Darcy,  a  Comnuuiist  organizer.  Mr.  Maltz'  de- 
fense of  Harry  Bridges  has  previously  been  referred  to.  Mr.  Bridges  led  the 
disastrous  San  Francisco  general  strike  of  19.34  and  was  identified  as  a  Com- 
munist Party  member  by  the  Daily  Worker  itself. 

7.  Albert  Maltz  has  been  associated  with  many  official  Communist  publica- 
tions. He  has  written  for  the  Daily  Worker,  as  shown  by  the  issues  of  the 
publication  for  Deceml)er  16,  1933 ;  September  17,  1934 :  and  December  21,  1935. 
Mr.  Maltz  has  al.so  taken  an  interest  in  the  Daily  Worker  s  financial  problems. 
The  publication  on  March  25,  1945,  listed  Mr.  Maltz  as  a  member  of  a  com- 
mittee "to  sponsor  support  for  the  Daily  Worker  and  The  Worker"  (the  Sunday- 
edition).  The  article  stated  under  a  headline  reading  "Leading  citizens  sponsor 
financial  aid  for  worker"  that  "The  committee  has  a  wide  representation  of 
people  who  in  their  daily  active  work  have  come  to  accept  the  Daily  Worker 
and  The  Worker  as  indispensable  journals  of  opinion  and  action."  Similar 
infoi'mation  is  carried  in  the  Daily  Worker  for  April   1,  1945. 

8.  New  Masses  is  an  official  weekly  magazine  of  the  Communist  Party.  That 
Albert  Maltz  has  been  a  contributor  to  New  Masses  is  proven  by  the  issues  of 
tlie  publication  for  December  15,  1936,  page  37 ;  January  26,  1937,  page  25 ;  and 
August  17,  1937,  page  16.  The  Western  AVorker,  an  official  Communist  publica- 
tion, announced  on  November  30,  1936,  that  Albert  Maltz  would  be  among  the 
contributors  to  New  Masses  when  the  New  Masses'  twenty-fifth  anniversary 
issue  was  put  out  on  December  10,  1936.  The  Daily  Worker  for  October  7,  1938,. 
reported  that  an  emergency  meeting  held  for  New  Masses  on  the  same  day  at 
the  Manhattan  Opera  House  in  New  York  City  would  include  a  speech  by  Albert 
Maltz.  The  issue  of  New  Masses  for  April  2,  1940.  page  21,  listed  Albert  Maltz 
as  one  of  the  signers  of  a  New  Masses  letter  to  the  President.  All)ert  Maltz 
served  on  the  sponsoring  committee  of  a  morale  meeting  for  Romain  Rolland 

The  Chairman.  Mr,  Gaston,  on  what  page  are  you  now? 
Mr.  Gaston.  Page  3. 
The  Chairman.  Page  3  ? 
Mr.  Gaston.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  What  is  the  number  of  the  citation  ? 
Mr.  Gaston.  No.  8. 

The  Chairman.  There  are  58  citations  all  told  ? 
Mr.  Gaston.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Unless  the  committee  has  some  objection,  we  will 
suspend  further  reading  and  place  it  in  the  record  from  this  point  on. 
Mr.  Gaston.  All  right,  sir,  fine. 
(The  document  referred  to  is  as  follows:) 

— which  the  New  Classes  held  at  Carnegie  Hall  in  New  York  on  March  30,  1945. 
This  was  reported  in  the  Daily  Worker  for  March  14,  1945,  and  New  Masses  for 
April  16,  1945. 

9.  New  Currents  is  a  weekly  magazine  in  the  Engli.sh  language  dealing  with 
Jewish  matters.  It  has  the  official  approval  of  the  .lewish  Commission  of  the 
Communist  Party  and  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  organization  by  the  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  on  September  2,  1947.     The  issue  of  New  Cur- 


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rents  for  March  1944,  page  2,  lists  Albert  Miiltz  as  a  member  of  the  advisory 
board  of  the  magazine. 

10.  Mainstream  is  a  literary  magazine  which  has  been  prominently  promoted 
by  the  Communist  press  and  which  advertises  itself  in  the  Daily  Worker  as  a 
"Marxist  literary  quarterly."  The  Worker  for  September  22,  1946,  lists  Albert 
Maltz  as  a  member  of  the  editorial  board  of  Mainstream. 

11.  People's  World  is  the  official  west  coast  organ  of  the  Communist  Pai'ty. 
Albert  Maltz  was  a  speaker  at  a  meeting  entitled  "Hollywood  Forum"  which  was 
.held  in  Los  Angeles  on  April  9,  1946,  under  the  auspices  of  the  People's  World, 
according  to  the  Daily  Worker  for  April  15,  1946,  page  11.  The  People's  World 
of  July  26,  1944,  reported  that  it  would  run  a  short-story  contest  between  August 
1,  1944,  and  February  1,  1945,  and  that  Albert  Maltz  would  be  one  of  the  judges 
of  the  contest.  The  People's  World  for  June  1,  1945,  said  it  was  running  a  short- 
story  contest  and  that  Mr.  Maltz  was  serving  as  a  .ludge. 

12.  Among  other  associations  with  the  Communist  press.  Albert  Maltz  is  shown 
to  have  served  on  tlie  editorial  council  of  Equality,  according  to  issues  of  the 
anagazine  for  July  1939,  June  1940,  and  July  1940.  Equality,  which  apiieared 
from  May  1939,  until  late  1940,  consistently  followed  the  Communist  Party  line 
and  its  managing  editor  was  Abraham  Chapman  who  has  been  identified  as 
John  Arnold,  a  member  of  the  New  York  State  Jewish  Buro  of  the  Communist 
Party.  Albert  Maltz  was  one  of  the  incorporators  of  Jewish  Survey,  according 
to  records  of  incorporation  of  New  Y'^ork  State.  Jewish  Survey,  incorporated 
in  1939  and  dissolved  on  December  2,  1942,  was  run  by  writers  for  the  Com- 
munist press  such  as  Louis  Harap.  Contributors  included  David  Zaslavsky  of 
the  Moscow  Pravda  and  Max  Perlow  and  Albert  E.  Kahn,  well-known  Com- 
munist leaders.  Mr.  Maltz  was  a  contributor  to  Laisve.  official  Communist  pub- 
lication in  the  Lithuanian  language  field,  according  to  a  copy  of  the  paper  for 
May  28, 1941.  Mr.  Maltz  also  contributed  to  Neues  Deutschland  (New  Germany), 
official  organ  of  the  Free  German  Ct)mmittee  of  Mexico,  which  had  its  head- 
quarters in  Moscow  and  whicli  consisted  largely  of  Communist  refugees  like  Otto 
Katz  and  Paul  Merker.  He  contributed  to  the  January  1945  issue  and  the  March 
and  April  1946  issues  of  Neues  Deutschland.  It  should  be  noted  that  it  is 
standard  practice  for  the  Daily  Worker  and  other  Communist  publicjitions  to 
accept  only  Communist  Party  members  for  official  positions  on  the  publications. 
It  need  scarcely  be  observed  that  contributors  to  such  publications  are  required 
to  follow  the  Communist  Party  line  in  their  writings. 

13.  Official  Communist  publishing  houses  have  published  works  by  Albert 
Maltz.  Mr.  Maltz  is  listed  as  one  of  the  authors  in  an  International  Publishers 
catalog,  undated,  and  also  in  a  catalog  issued  by  the  Workers  Library  Publishers 
in  1938.  International  Publishers  in  1935  published  a  book  entitled  "Proletarian 
Literature  in  the  United  States"  which  included  one  of  Albert  Maltz'  short 
stories.  The  Daily  Worker  lor  July  12,  1938,  announced  that  International 
Publishers  was  issuing  a  book  of  short  stories  by  Mr.  Maltz  entitled  "The  Way 
Things  Are."  The  Department  of  Justice  has  cited  International  Publishers 
as  a  "publishing  agency  of  the  Communist  Party"  (brief  in  the  case  of  William 
Schneiderman,  p.  145).  It  has  been  similarly  cited  by  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944. 

14.  Official  Communist  sources  have  frequently  voiced  approval  of  Albert  Maltz' 
writings.  Communist  International,  the  official  organ  of  the  Communist  Inter- 
national, on  the  back  cover  of  its  May  1938  issue  advertised  Mr.  Maltz'  book, 
The  Way  Things  Are,  and  described  the  book  as  "a  book  of  stirring  stories  of  the 
class  struggle  in  tlie  United  States."  The  official  west  coast  Communist  organ,  the 
People's  World,  on  January  4,  1945,  page  5,  listed  Mr.  ]\Ialtz'  book.  The  Cross 
and  the  Arrow,  as  one  of  the  25  best  books  of  1944  and  the  reviewer  stated  that : 
"With  this  novel  Maltz  earned  a  position  among  the  leading  figures  in  American 
fiction  today."  The  Progressive  Book  Shop,  one  of  a  Nation-wide  chain  of  Com- 
munist book  shops,  held  a  Meet  the  Author  Party  to  publicize  Maltz'  book.  The 
Cross  and  the  Arrow,  according  to  the  California  Eagle  for  October  5,  1944. 
Albert  Maltz  himself  testified  before  the  California  Legislative  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  on  October  13.  1!44,  that  the  I'l-ogrcssive  Book  Shop 
had  sponsored  an  autographing  party  for  this  book  of  his.  The  Cross  and  the 
Arrow  was  made  a  selection  of  the  Book  Find  Club,  according  to  Plain  Talk  for 
May  1947,  page  28.  The  Book  Find  Club  is  a  Communist  version  of  the  book-of- 
the-month  clubs  and  promotes  the  writings  of  authors  symi)athetic  to  the  Com- 
■munist  viewpoint.  The  Abraham  Lincoln  School,  Chicago,  has  been  cited  as  a 
Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March 
29,  1944,  and  has  been  refused  support  by  the  American  Federation  of  Labor  in 


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Chicago  on  the  grounds  of  "oommunistlc  affiliations."  The  Daily  Worker  for 
April  L'l.  ]94(),  announced  that  a  literary  criticism  seminar  of  the  Abraham 
Lincoln  School  would  be  held  for  the  purpose  of  giving  writers,  critics,  and  others 
interested  in  evaluating  the  Marxist  criticism  of  literature  an  opportunity  to 
discuss  the  works  of  Albert  Maltz  and  others. 

15.  The  Los  Angeles  Workers'  School  was  a  Communist  school  directed  by 
Eva  Shafran,  a  Communist  organizer;  La  Rue  McCormick,  who  was  a  Com- 
munist candidate  for  California  State  senator,  served  on  the  board  of  directors 
of  the  school.  Albert  Maltz  was  a  lecturer  at  the  school  during  its  spring  and 
summer  sessions  in  1943,  according  to  official  pamphlets  of  the  school  and  also 
the  issues  of  the  People's  World  for  April  16,  1943,  page  5 ;  April  23,  1948,  page 
5;  May  7,  1943,  page  5;  May  13,  1943,  page  5;  May  21,  1943,  page  o ;  and  July 
14.  1943,  page  3. 

If).  The  People's  Educational  Center  started  in  Los  Angeles  in  the  fall  of 
1943,  is  the  successor  to  the  Los  Angeles  Workers'  School.  It  was  cited  as  a 
Communist-front  organization  by  the  California  State  Legislative  Committee 
on  I^n-Anierican  Activities  and  records  show  that  the  center's  staff  and  faculty 
include  nnmercjus  card-holding  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  such  as  Carl 
Wintprs.  Eva  Shafran,  Mildred  Raskin,  and  Bruce  Minton.  The  People's  World 
for  December  2,  1943,  reported  that  the  People's  Educational  Association,  the 
sponsoring  organization  for  the  People's  Educational  Center,  met  during  the 
previous  week  in  the  Hotel  Hollywood  in  Los  Angeles  and  that  one  of  the  persons 
repre.senting  the  association  at  the  meeting  was  Albert  Maltz.  The  same  article 
said  Mr.  Maltz  urged  the  association  to  establish  a  Hollywood  branch  of  the 
People's  Educational  Center  and  offered  for  the  use  of  such  a  branch  the 
League  of  American  Writers  School  at  1717  North  Vine  Street.  The  Labor  Herald 
for  June  1.  1945,  announced  that  a  bimonthly  forum  by  the  People's  Educational 
Center  was  scheduled  to  begin  on  June  10,  1945,  with  Albert  Maltz  leading  a 
discussion  on  What  To  Do  With  Germany. 

17.  The  Workers  Book  Shop,  50  East  Thirteenth  Street,  New  York  City,  is  head- 
quarters of  a  chain  of  Communist  bookshops,  which  are  the  official  outlets  for 
Communist  literature  and  at  which  tickets  for  Communist  Party  and  front 
functions  customarily  are  sold.  The  New  York  Workers  Book  Shop  put  out 
a  pamphlet  in  1938  "entitled  "Very  Urgent,"  which  requested  money  for  the 
Workers  Book  Shop  mural  fund.  Albert  INIaltz  was  listed  in  the  pamphlet  as 
one  of  the  active  sponsors. 

18.  Albert  Maltz  has  been  affiliated  with  numerous  organizations  which  spe- 
cialize in  the  defense  of  Communists.  The  International  Labor  Defense  has 
been  described  as  the  legal  arm  of  the  Communist  Party  by  Attorney  General 
Biddle  and  has  been  cited  for  its  Communist  character  by  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities.  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Free- 
dom, Massachusetts  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  and  the  Cali- 
fornia Committee  on  Un-American  Activities.  Equal  Justice  was  a  publica- 
tion of  the  International  Labor  Defense.  Albert  Maltz  was  one  of  the  signers 
of  an  open  letter  to  Attorney  General  Biddle  which  appeared  in  Equal  Justice 
for  the  spring  of  1942. 

19.  The  National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties,  M'hich  specialized  in 
defending  Communists  also,  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  25,  1942,  and  ^larch  29.  1944.  Attor- 
ney General  BicTdle  also  cited  the  organization,  pointing  out  that  it  had  defended 
such  prominent  Communists  as  Sam  Darcy  and  Robert  Wood,  party  secretaries 
for  Pennsylvania  and  Oklahoma,  respectively.  An  official  program  leaflet 
listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  sponsors  of  the  Conference  on  Constitutional  Lib- 
erties in  America,  which  was  held  in  Washington,  D.  C,  June  7  through  9,  1940, 
and  out  of  which  grew  the  organization,  the  National  Federation  for  Consti- 
tutional Liberties.  Albert  INIaltz  was  listed  as  a  sponsor  of  the  National  Fed- 
eration for  Constitutional  Liberties  on  a  letterhead  of  the  organization  dated 
Noveml)er  fi.  1940.  Mr.  Maltz  has  also  signed  appeals  in  behalf  of  the  Communist 
Party  and  individual  Communists  under  the  auspices  of  the  National  Federation 
for  ConsHtutional  Liberties,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker  for  December  19, 
1940,  page  5,  and  July  19,  1942.  page  4. 

20.  The  Greater  New  York  Emergency  Conference  on  Inalienable  Rights  was  a 
Communist-front  organization  specializing  in  the  defense  of  Communists  and 
closely  interlocked  with  the  National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties. 
The  Inalienable  Rights  Conference  was  cited  for  its  Communist  character  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29.  1944.  and  by  Prof. 
John  Dewev's  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.     The  New  Leader 


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for  February  8,  1941,  reports  that  Albert  Maltz  was  on  the  "Call"  of  the  Inalien- 
able Rights  Conference  to  keep  the  Communist  Party  on  the  State  ballot  in 
New  York. 

21.  The  Civil  Rights  Congress  is  th<^  successor  of  the  International  Labor 
Defense,  legal  arm  of  the  Commimist  Party.  The  House  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities,  in  a  report  on  September  2,  1947,  described  the  Civil 
Rights  Congress  as  "dedicated  not  to  the  broader  issues  of  civil  liberties,  but 
specifically  to  the  defense  of  individual  Communists  and  the  Communist  Party." 
This  congress  is  now  defending  such  persons  as  Gerhart  Eisler.  agent  of  the 
Communist  International,  convicted  of  passport  fraud,  and  Eugene  Dennis,  Com- 
munist Party  general  secretary  convicted  of  contempt  of  Congress.  A  letterhead 
dated  May  11,  1946,  shows  that  Albert  Maltz  is  a  public  sponsor  of  an  organization 
entitled  "Veterans  Against  Discrimination  of  Civil  Rights  Congress  of  New 
York,"  whicli  is  an  acknowledged  part  of  the  Civil  Rights  Congress. 

22.  The  Committee  for  Citizenship  Rights  was  avowedly  organized  to  oppose 
the  threatened  revocation  of  citizenship  of  William  Schneiderman,  Communist 
Party  organizer,  according  to  a  letter  of  the  organization  dated  January  10,  1942. 
It  was  cited  as  a  Communist-front  oi'ganization  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities  on  IMarch  29,  1944.  The  same  letter  referred  to  above 
listed  Albert  Maltz  as  an  endorser  of  the  Committee  for  Citizenship  Rights. 

23.  The  American  Committee  for  Protection  of  the  Foreign  Born,  which  also 
specializes  in  defending  Communists,  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  25,  1942,  and  March  29, 
1944,  and  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April 
1940.  An  undated  leaflet  of  the  organization  shows  that  Albert  Maltz  served  on 
the  board  of  directors  of  the  American  Committee  for  Protection  of  the  Foreign 
Born.  The  organization  defended  such  foreign-born  Communists  as  Gerhart 
Eisler  and  Harry  Bridges. 

24.  The  National  Committee  for  the  Defense  of  Political  Prisoners  and  the 
National  Committee  for  People's  Rights  were  cited  as  Communist  fronts  by 
the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  25,  1942.  and  March 
29,  1944.  Attorney  General  Biddle  (in  the  Congressional  Record,  September  24, 
1942,  page  7686)  stated  that  the  "National  Committee  for  the  Defense  of  Political 
Prisoners  is  substantially  equivalent  to  International  Labor  Defense,  legal  arm 
of  the  Communist  Party"  ;  he  also  pointed  out  that  the  organization  had  defended 
such  Communists  as  Earl  Browder  and  Angelo  Herndon.  "In  January,  1938," 
the  Attorney  General  stated  further,  "its  (National  Committee  for  the  Defense  of 
Poliical  Prison'r^;)  name  was  changed  to  the  National  Committee  for  People's 
Rights."  Albert  Maltz  was  a  member  of  the  National  Committee  for  the  Defense 
of  Political  Prisoners,  according  to  a  list  submitted  by  Joseph  S.  Gelders.  the 
organization's  southern  re])resentative,  in  testifving  before  the  La  Follette 
committee  in  Washington,  D.  C,  on  January  14,  1937.  The  National  Committee 
for  People's  Rights  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  members  of  its  national 
committee  who  was  eligible  for  election  to  its  executive  committee,  according 
to  a  mimeographed  announcement  put  out  by  the  organization  in  November  1941. 

25.  International  Workers  Order  is  a  fraternal  organization  which  Attorney 
General  Biddle  cited  as  "one  of  the  strongest  Communist  organizations."  (Con- 
gressional Record,  September  24,  1942,  page  7688).  It  was  also  cited  as  sub- 
versive by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  January  3,  1940, 
and  June  25,  1942,  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in 
April,  1940,  and  by  the  California  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  1943. 
New  Masses  for  August  27, 1940,  page  21,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  sponsors 
of  a  plays-for-children  contest,  sponsored  by  the  junior  section  of  the  International 
Workers  Order. 

26.  Albert  Maltz  has  shown  an  active  interest  in  the  Soviet  Union.  The 
People's  World,  of  March  11,  1943,  carried  a  picture  of  Mr.  Maltz  and  described 
him  as  a  famous  American  writer  who  had  sent  the  following  telegram  to  the 
editors  of  National  Defense,  a  literary  magazine  in  Moscow :  "Please  use  my 
literary  royalties  for  the  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union.  Greetings.  Albm-t  IMaltz." 
The  article  reflects  that  royalties  were  due  Maltz  in  Moscow  for  several  works. 

27.  The  Daily  Worker  for  January  18,  1943,  has  an  article  entitled  "Writers  of 
the  World  Meet  in  the  Page  of  a  Soviet  Magazine,"  which  points  out  that  Soviet 
readers  are  obtaining  literature  of  American  writers  through  a  monthly  magazine 
published  by  the  State  Literary  Publishing  House  and  that  one  of  the  American 
writers  who  have  had  articles  published  in  that  magazine  is  Albert  Maltz. 

28.  The  Daily  Worker  for  April  28,  1938,  page  4,  reflects  that  Albert  Maltz  was 
a  signer  of  a  statement  by  the  American  Progressives  Defending  the  Moscow 


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Trials,  which  was  the  usual  name  affixed  to  a  series  of  trials  then  being  held  in 
the  Soviet  Union  for  numerous  opponents  of  Dictator  Stalin.  It  has  been  estab- 
lislicd  tliiit  these  trials  liad  for  their  aim  the  jjurging  of  all  political  enemies  of 
Joseph  Stalin. 

29.  Soviet  Russia  Today  was  the  official  monthly  publication  of  the  Friends 
of  the  Soviet  Union,  a  predecessor  of  the  National  Council  of  American-Soviet 
Friendship.  The  magazine  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  25,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.  The 
issue  of  Soviet  Russia  Today  for  September  1941,  page  30,  carried  the  name  of 
Albert  Maltz  as  author  of  a  statement  in  support  of  the  Soviet  Union.  The  Daily 
Worker  for  September  3,  1941,  in  an  article  entitled,  "Soviet  Victory  Vital  to 
Preserve  Cultural  Heritage,  Basic  Economic  Values,"  i-eported  that  Albert  Maltz 
was  one  of  a  number  of  persons  whose  statements  expressing  their  solidarity 
with  the  Soviet  Union  would  be  published  in  the  magazine,  Soviet  Russia  Today. 

30.  The  National  Council  of  American-Soviet  Friendship  was  cited  as  a  Com- 
munist front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29, 
1944.  The  People's  World  for  October  23,  1943,  page  3,  stated  that  Albert  Maltz 
was  a  member  of  the  Hollywood  Motion  Picture  Committee  of  the  National  Coun- 
cil of  American-Soviet  Friendship. 

31.  The  American  Russian  Institute,  which  was  founded  in  1926  as  an  alleged 
clearing  house  for  "factual"  information  on  the  Soviet  Union,  was  cited  as  a 
Communist  front  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  a  report 
of  June  12, 1947.  A  program  put  out  by  the  American  Russian  Institute  announces 
a  premier  showing  of  Turning  Point,  a  Soviet  film,  on  January  3,  1947,  at  the 
Sunset  Theater  in  Hollywood  and  also  announces  that  Albert  Maltz  would  take 
part  in  a  panel  discussion  following  the  film  showing. 

32.  Many  Communist  front  organizations  which  supported  Soviet  foreign  policy 
have  been  backed  by  Albert 'Maltz.  The  American  League  Against  War  and 
Fascism  was  active  in  support  of  Soviet  foreign  policy  against  the  democracies 
between  1932  and  1937.  It  has  been  cited  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  as  an  or- 
ganization seeking  "to  create  public  sentiment  on  behalf  of  a  foreign  policy 
adapted  to  the  interests  of  the  Soviet  Union."  (Congressional  Rword,  September 
24,  1942.)  The  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  cited  this  organiza- 
tion as  subversive  on  January  3,  1940,  and  March  29,  1944.  The  League  was  dedi- 
cated to  an  openly  treasonous  program.  Albei't  Maltz  has  contributed  to  Fight, 
a  publication  put  out  by  the  executive  committee  of  the  American  League  Against 
War  and  Fascism,  according  to  an  issue  of  Fight  for  November,  1933,  pages  8  and  9. 

33.  After  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact  was  signed  in  1939,  the  Communists  established 
the  American  Peace  Mobilization,  which  opposed  lend  lea.se,  aid  to  Britain,  the 
defense  program,  and  picketed  the  White  House.  It  also  supported  a  number  of 
strikes  in  defense  industries.  The  organization  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front 
by  Attorney  General  Biddle,  by  the  Special  Connnittee  on  Un-American  Activities 
and  by  the  California  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities.  An  official  program 
listed  Albert  Maltz  as  a  sponsor  of  a  meeting  held  by  the  American  Peace  Mobili- 
zation in  New  York  City  on  April  5  and  (i,  1941. 

34.  Among  the  Communist  fronts  that  sprang  up  when  the  Soviet  Union  and 
the  United  States  were  allies  in  a  war  against  fascism  was  the  Artists'  Front  to 
Win  the  War.  which  made  its  debut  at  a  mass  meeting  at  Carnegie  Hall  in  New 
York  City  on  October  16,  1942.  The  organization  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front 
by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  The 
official  program  of  the  Artists'  Front  to  AVin  the  War  meeting  at  Carnegie  Hall 
listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  spon-sors.  The  meeting  supported  the  then 
current  Comnnniist  line  calling  for  a  second  front. 

35.  Thp  Win  the  Peace  Conference  was  held  in  Washington.  D.  C,  from  April 
5  to  7.  1946.  to  attack  American  foreign  policy.  It  was  repudiated  by  a  number 
of  noted  sponsors  and  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  House  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  12,  1947,  and  September  2,  1947.  The  confer- 
ence resulted  in  the  formation  of  an  organization  called  the  National  Committee 
to  Win  the  Peace.  Alliert  Maltz  was  a  sponsor  of  the  Win  the  Peace  Conference, 
according  to  an  article  in  the  Baltimore  Sunday  Sun  for  March  31,  1946.  Thus, 
Mr.  Maltz  has  thus  publicly  avowed  his  allegiance  to  the  line  of  the  Communist 
Party  during  four  distinctly  divergent  periods. 

36.  At  the  Seventh  World  Congress  of  the  Communist  International,  held  in 
Moscow  in  1935,  George  Dimitroff,  general  secretary,  called  upon  all  affiliated 
Communist  Parties  to  make  the  greatest  efforts  in  behalf  of  the  campaign  of  the 
Spani.sh  Communists  who  wei'e  active  in  Spain's  civil  war.  Among  the  projects 
organized  by  the  American  Conmiunists  in  response  to  this  request  was  the 
Theater  Committee  for  Defense  of  the  Spanish  Republic. 


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37.  Communists  efforts  in  belialf  of  Spanish  Communists  continued  after  tlie 
civil  war  ended  in  1939.  Among  tliese  later  organizations  was  the  Veterans  of 
the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  which  was  cited  for  its  Communist  character  by 
tlie  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944,  and  by 
Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.  The  Abra- 
ham Lincoln  Brigade  was  composed  largely  of  Americans  lighting  on  tlie  side  of 
the  Loyalists  in  Spain's  civil  war.  Earl  Browder,  former  general  secretary  of 
the  Communist  I'arty  in  the  United  States,  testified  before  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  that  most  of  the  members  of  the  brigade  were  Com- 
munists. The  Daily  Worker  for  Fel)ruary  21,  1940,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one 
of  tlie  signers  of  a  protest  to  the  President,  which  was  sponsored  by  the  Veterans 
of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade.  An  advertisement  sponsored  by  the  Veterans 
of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  and  calling  for  a  break  in  American  relations 
with  Spain,  appeared  both  in  the  Los  Angeles  Daily  News  for  May  10,  1945.  and 
the  New  York  Times  for  March  3,  1945,  page  8.  The  advertisement  listed  Albert 
Maltz  as  one  of  the  sponsors.  Albert  Maltz  is  also  listed  as  a  sponsor  on  a 
letterhead  of  the  Veterans  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade,  dated  December  28, 
1946 ;  the  letter  referred  to  announces  the  opening  sale  of  tickets  for  a  perform- 
ance to  be  held  at  the  Belasco  Theater  in  New  York  on  January  19,  1947,  to  raise 
funds  for  Republican  Spain.  A  press  release  issued  by  the  Veterans  of  the 
Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  in  June  1947  and  requesting  United  Nations  action  on 
Franco's  regime  in  Spain  is  signed  by  a  number  of  sponsors,  including  Albert 
Maltz. 

38.  A  similar  organization  is  the  American  Committee  for  Spani.sh  Freedom, 
which  was  avowedly  organized  in  July  1944,  to  fight  for  legislation  ending  Ameri- 
can diplomatic  relations  with  Spain  and  supplying  American  military  aid  for  a 
Spanish  revolution.  Among  the  well  known  Communists  in  the  leadership  of  the 
organization  was  Allan  Chase,  secretary,  who  is  a  former  Connnunist  Party 
political  candidate.  The  organization  has  worked  closely  with  the  Veterans  of 
the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade.  A  letterhead  of  the  American  Committee  for 
Spanish  Freedom,  dated  January  21,  1946,  lists  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  organ- 
ization's sponsors.  In  an  undated  letterhead  of  the  Los  Angeles  chapter  of  the 
American  Committee  for  Spanish  Freedom,  put  out  in  1945,  the  name  of  Albert 
Maltz  again  appears. 

39.  The  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee,  which  has  worked  in  coopera- 
tion with  the  Spanish-aid  front  organizations  of  the  Communists,  is  engaged  in 
providing  transportation  and  support  for  international  Communist  agents  such 
as  Gerhart  Eisler.  who  was  recently  convicted  of  passport  fraud.  The  organiza- 
tion was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  It  was  also  cited  for  contempt  of  Congress  on 
April  16.  1946.  and  its  leaders  were  convicted  in  a  Federal  court  on  June  27,  1947. 
The  Daily  Worker  for  August  12,  1943,  sets  forth  the  announcement  from  Dr. 
Edward  A.  Bar.sky,  chairman  of  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee,  that  a 
scroll  of  greeting's  to  Spanish  refugees  freed  from  concentration  camp;^  in  north 
Africa  had  been  signed  by  200  Americans.  The  list  of  names  includes  that  of 
Albert  Maltz.  A  letterhead,  dated  February  26,  1946,  reflects  that  Albert  Maltz 
served  as  a  national  sponsor  of  the  Spanish  Refugee  Appeal  which  was  organized 
by  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee  to  further  its  purpos-^  of  n^d'ng 
international  Communist  agents. 

40.  The  American  Committee  for  Yugoslav  Relief  is  close'y  assoointed  w^'i  tl^e 
American  Slav  Congress,  which  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  House 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  June  12,  1947.  The  American  Com- 
mittee for  Yugoslav  Relief  is  headed  by  Zlatko  Balokovic,  who  is  vice  president 
of  the  American-Slav  Cong,ress.  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  and  who  lectured 
on  the  happiness  of  the  Yugoslav  people  under  communism  after  a  trip  to  that 
country.  An  article  in  the  Downtown  Shopping  News  of  Los  Angeles  for  Febru- 
ary 13. 1945.  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  sponsors  of  the  Los  Angeles  American 
Committee  for  Yugoslav  Relief. 

41.  The  League  of  American  Writers  was  an  affiliate  of  the  International  Union 
of  R'^volutionary  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  and  the  league  was 
pledged  to  thp  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  the  use  of  "art  as  an  instrument 
of  the  class  struggle."  The  league  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  January  3.  1940.  June  25.  1942,  and 
March  29,  1944.  Attorney  General  Biddle  said  that  "the  overt  activities  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers  in  the  last  2  years  leave  little  doubt  of  its  Communist 
control"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942,  p.  7686).  The  league  was 
founded  at  a  Congress  of  American  Revolutionary  Writers  held  April  26  through 


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28,  1935,  in  New  York  City.  The  record  shows  that  Albert  Miiltz  was  one  of  the 
founders  of  tlie  League  of  American  Writers. 

(a)  Albert  Maltz  was  a  member  of  the  executive  committee  of  the  first  writers' 
congress  wliich  resulted  in  the  formation  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  in 
1935,  according  to  the  California  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  (1945 
report,  p.  126). 

(b)  The  Bureau  of  Corporations,  Department  of  State  of  New  York,  indicates 
that  at  the  time  of  the  formal  incorporation  of  the  League  of  American  Writers 
on  July  13,  1939,  one  of  the  original  directors  to  act  until  tlie  lirst  annual  meeting 
was  Albert  Maltz,  whose  address  was  given  as  3905  Forty-fourth  Street,  Sunny- 
side,  Long  Island,  N.  Y. 

(c)  Albert  Maltz  presented  a  reading  of  The  Working  Class  Theatre  at  the 
tirst  writers"  congress  in  1935,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker  for  April  29,  1935, 
pages  1  and  2. 

{d)  Albert  Maltz  was  described  as  "among  the  most  popular  authors  in  the 
Soviet  Union  today"  by  the  president  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  at  the 
opening  of  the  Third  American  Writers  Congress,  according  to  volume  6,  No.  1, 
of  the  league's  organ.  The  Bulletin.  Albert  Maltz  was  one  of  the  signers  of  the 
Call  for  the  Third  American  Writers  Congress  which  was  held  by  the  League 
of  American  Wirters  on  June  2,  3,  and  4,  1939,  according  to  the  magazine.  Direc- 
tion, for  May-June,  lf'39,  page  1.  The  official  progi'am  of  the  Third  Writers 
Congress  showed  that  Mr.  Maltz  also  served  as  cochairman  of  the  arrangements 
committee  on  the  drama. 

(e)  The  Daily  Worker  for  March  14,  1941,  in  an  article  headed  "Writers' 
league  plans  summer  conference,"  stated  that  the  League  of  American  Writers 
had  completed  plans  for  the  tirst  White  Mountain  Writers  Conference,  August  18 
to  September  2,  at  Jefferson,  N.  H.,  and  that  Albert  Maltz  would  be  included 
among  the  lecturers.  The  New  Masses  for  April  8,  1941,  page  26,  carried  the  same 
information  about  Mi\  Maltz. 

(/)   The  People's  World,  oflicial  west  coast  Communist  newspaper,  on  June  13, 

1941,  announced  that  Albert  Maltz  had  been  chosen  vice  president  of  the  League 
of 'American  Writers  at  the  fourth  congress  of  the  organization,  held  in  New 
York,  June  G  through  8,  1941.  Mr.  Maltz  was  also  listed  as  a  vice  president  of  the 
organization  in  New  Masses,  June  17,  1941,  page  9;  Daily  Worker,  September  14, 

1942,  page  7 ;  and  People's  World,  September  23,  1942,  page  5.  The  writers'  con- 
gress in  June  of  1941  adopted  a  firm  antiwar  stand,  according  to  the  Daily 
Worker  for  June  9,  1941.  This  was  still  during  the  period  of  the  Stalin-Hitler 
pact,  and  part  of  the  Communist  Party  line. 

{g)  The  People's  World  for  June  28,  1941,  carried  an  article  entitled,  "Writers 
Hear  Soviet  War  Against  Nazis  Lauded,"  which  described  the  sixth  semiannual 
meeting  of  the  Hollywood  branch  of  the  League  of  American  Writers.  Albert 
Maltz  and  others  made  speeches  lauding  the  Soviet  Union.  The  Nazis  had 
turned  against  Russia  since  the  fourth  writers'  congress  and  the  policies  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers  were  switched  accordingly.  This  is  further  borne 
out  by  the  Daily  Worker  of  July  24, 1941,  which  tells  how  the  League  of  American 
Writers,  of  which  Maltz  is  vice  president,  pledged  "full  aid  to  Britain  and  Soviet 
Union"  and  the  Daily  Worker  of  December  10,  1941,  which  tells  how  the  league, 
in  which  Maltz  is  again  listed  as  vice  president,  has  offered  the  service  of  its 
members  in  the  war  against  the  Axis. 

(70  The  People's  World  for.  June  24,  1942,  described  a  writers'  workshop  con- 
ference held  by  the  League  of  American  Writers.  The  article  listed  Albert 
Maltz  as  a  sponsor  of  the  conference  and  said  resolutions  adopted  by  the  con- 
ference included  support  for  the  Communist  Harry  Bridges  and  a  request  for 
immediate  opening  of  a  second  front  in  Europe. 

(/)  The  Daily  AVorker  for  September  29,  1942,  in  an  article  entitled  "Writers 
Defend  Minority  Rights,"  reports  that  the  League  of  American  Writers  had  made 
public  a  text  of  a  telegram  requesting  a  Democratic  candidate  for  Governor  in 
the  State  of  New  York  to  state  his  position  on  attacks  by  the  American  Legion 
on  the  electoral  rights  of  the  Communist  Party.  Albert  Maltz'  name  is  again 
carried  as  an  ofticer  of  the  league. 

(;■)  Albert  Maltz  was  listed  as  president  of  the  west  coast  chapter  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers  in  a  pamphlet  advertising  courses  for  the  fall  term 
(1943)  of  the  League  of  American  Writers'  School  for  Writers.  Maltz  wrote 
the  foreword  to  the  pamphlet. 

(fc)  An  undated  bulletin  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  listed  Albert 
Maltz  as  a  member  of  the  national  board  of  the  organization. 


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(I)  Albert  Maltz  himself,  in  testimony  before  the  California  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  on  October  13,  1944,  admitted  that  he  had  been  and  still 
was  national  vice  president  of  the  Leasne  of  American  Writers,  although  the 
organization,  he  said,  was  not  functioning  at  the  time  of  his  testimony.  He  also 
admitted  that  he  was  president  of  the  Hollywood  chapter  of  the  League  of 
American  Writers. 

42.  The  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  was  the  name  given  to  the  Holly- 
wood League  of  American  Writers  after  the  League  of  American  Writers  could 
no  longer  conceal  its  Communist  domination.  The  original  pledge  of  the  league 
to  defend  the  Soviet  Union  and  to  use  "art  as  an  instrument  of  the  class  strug- 
gle" is  now  the  basis  upon  which  the  policies  of  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobiliza- 
tion are  founded.  The  issiie  of  Variety  for  July  10,  1944,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as 
one  of  the  speakers  at  a  meeting  of  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization,  held 
July  7,  1944;  at  this  meeting  the  "Mobilization  agreed  to  serve  as  a  story  depart- 
ment for  the  Overseas  Film  Branch  of  OWI.  The  Guild  Bulletin,  oflicial  organ 
of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  in  its  issue  No.  71,  dated  October  1,  1944,  page  5, 
announced  that  Albert  Maltz  was  one  of  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization 
members  writing  scripts  for  OWI.  Variety  for  October  18,  1944,  said  that  Albert 
Maltz  would  serve  on  a  special  research  committee  which  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization  was  setting  up  to  investigate  whether  the  California  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  had  ignored  mandates  of  the  legislature.  Albert 
Maltz  personally  testified  that  he  was  a  member  of  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization  wiien  he  appeared  before  the  California  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  October  13,  1944. 

43.  The  New  Theatre  was  the  official  monthly  magazine  of  the  League  of 
AVorkers  Theatres,  a  section  of  the  International  Union  of  Revolutionary  Theatre, 
with  headquarters  in  Moscow.  The  league  was  used  to  present  Communist 
propaganda  plays  and  to  raise  funds  for  Communist  purposes ;  it  was  succeeded 
in  January  1935  by  the  New  Theatre  League,  which  had  similar  aims.  The 
magazine,  New  Thtiatre,  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  The  New  Theatre  League 
was  cited  for  its  Communist  character  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-Amer- 
ican Activities  on  March  29.  1944,  and  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for 
Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.  In  the  January  1936  issue  of  New  Theatre, 
the  statement,  "We  are  proud  that  among  those  who  have  associated  themselves 
with  us  in  the  creation  of  the  New  Theatre  are :"  is  followed  by  a  list  of  names 
including  that  of  Albert  Maltz.  The  New  Theatre  League,  in  a  press  release 
dated  November  8,  1935,  stated  that  Albert  Maltz  had  been  awarded  first  place 
in  a  play  contest  for  a  one-act  antiwar  or  "anti-Fascist"  play,  sponsored  by 
the  New  Theatre  League  and  the  American  League  Against  War  and  Fascism 
(which  organization  has  been  referred  to  above).  Mr.  Maltz'  prize-winning 
play  was  entitled  "Private  Hicks."  This  play  was  praised  in  the  Daily  Worker 
for  February  7,  1939,  page  7,  which  stated  that  Private  Hicks  owed  its  start 
to  the  New  Theatre  League.  The  Daily  Worker  for  January  8,  193G,  page  3, 
reported  that  the  New  Theatre  League  was  producing  The  Black  Pit,  written 
by  Albert  Maltz.  The  New  Theatre  of  Philadelphia,  in  an  announcement  dis- 
tributed by  that  organization  during  a  Paul  Robeson  concert  at  the  Philadelphia 
Academy  of  INIusic  on  March  7,  1941,  stated  that  tlie  theater  organization  would 
produce  Zero  Hour,  written  by  Albert  Maltz  and  George  Sklar.  The  Daily 
Worker  for  June  10,  1938,  page  7,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  a  guest  at  a  meeting 
of  the  New  Theatre  League.  Mr.  Maltz  has  contributed  to  New  Theatre  mag- 
azine, according  to  the  issue  for  May  1935.  page  S. 

44.  The  Theatre  Union  was  one  of  the  affiliates  of  the  League  of  Workers 
Theatres,  which  in  turn  was  tied  to  the  Moscow-directed  International  Union 
of  the  Revolutionary  Theatre.  Theatre, Union  reflected  the  current  line  of  the 
Communist  Party  in  its  propaganda  and  was  used  to  raise  funds  for  Communist 
purposes.  A  leaflet  of  the  organization  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  a  member  of 
the  executive  board  of  the  Theatre  Union. 

45.  Frontiei-  Films  produced  and  distributed  pro-Communist  films,  including 
a  film  on  the  Connnunist-led  strike  at  the  Allis-Chalmers  plant  in  Milwaukee. 
The  organization  was  headed  by  the  following  contributors  to  the  Communist 
press:  Kyle  Crichton,  alias  Robert  Forsythe ;  Irving  Lerner;  Clifford  Odets ; 
Edwin  Rolfe,  and  George  Seldes.  It  was  cited  for  its  Communist  character  by 
the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944,  and  by 
Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.  The  Daily 
Worker  for  April  6,  1937,  page  9,  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  a  staff  member  of 
Frontier  Films. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  381 

46.  Actors  Laboratory  was  a  training  school  for  actors  in  Hollywood  whose 
officers  have  lengthy  records  of  Communist-front  activity  as  evidenced  in  at- 
tached reports;  such  officers  include  Roman  Bolnien,  cliairman ;  Larry  Parks, 
treasurer;  Morris  Carnevsky,  Jules  Dassin,  Edward  Dmytryk,  members  of  the 
executive  board.  Tlie  organization  coopei-ated  with  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization  which  has  been  described  above.  The  issue  of  Variety  for  August 
K),  1044,  carried  an  advei'tisement  regarding  the  Actors  Laboratory  which  was 
endorsed  by  30  individuals,  incUiding  Albert  Maltz. 

47.  Tlie  independent  Cirizens  Conuuittee  uf  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions 
has  been  charged  with  being  Connnunist  dominated  by  Harold  Ickes  and  other 
liberals  who  previously  had  supported  it.  It  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by 
the  n()us(>  Connnittee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  September  2,  1047.  A  leaflet 
put  out  by  tlie  organization  in  1045  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  sponsors  of 
the  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions.  New 
Masses  for  Marcli  13,  104.j,  states  that  the  magazine.  Independent,  is  an  organ  of 
the  Independent  Citizens  Committee  and  that  Albert  Maltz  is  one  of  the  con- 
tributing editors  to  the  publication. 

48.  The  Independent  Citizens  Connnittee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions 
split  after  Harold  Ickes  and  other  liberals  condemned  the  organization  as  Com- 
numist-dominated.  The  pro-Communist  section,  after  the  split,  formed  the  Pro- 
gressive Citizens  of  America.  The  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  was  cited  as  a 
Connnunist  front  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  a  report 
of  June  12,  1947.  Tlie  Daily  Worker  for  May  16,  1947.  page  11,  announced  that 
the  manuscript  of  Albert  Maltz's  novel.  The  Cross  and  tlie  Arrow,  would  be 
auctioned  off  on  May  IS,  1947,  at  the  Hotel  Brevoort  in  New  York  City  for  the 
benefit  of  the  literary  division  of  the  Progressive  Citizens  of  America.  The  Daily 
Worker  of  July  ;">,  1047,  page  11,  published  a  photo  of  Albert  Maltz  with  the 
announcement  that  Mr.  Maltz  would  participate  in  a  conference  to  be  held  July 
9  through  13,  1947,  in  the  Beverly  Hills  Hotel,  Hollywood,  under  the  auspices  of 
the  Hollywood  Arts.  Sciences,  and  Professions  Council  of  the  I'rogressive  Citizens 
of  America.  The  Daily  Worker  for  July  31,  1947,  page  11,  reprinted  part  of  a 
speech  which  the  newspaper  said  Albert  Maltz  had  given  "recently"  in  Los  Angeles 
at  a  meeting  under  the  auspices  of  the  I'rogressive  Citizens  of  America. 

49.  The  American  Committee  of  Jewish  Writers,  Artists,  and  Scientists,  Inc., 
was  a  smaller,  more  .specialized  version  of  the  Independent  Citizens  Committee 
of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions,  which  has  been  previously  referred  to. 
The  American  Committee  of  Jewish  Writers,  Artists,  and  Scientists,  Inc.,  was 
affiliated  with  the  Jewish  Anti-Fascist  Committee  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  it  also 
published  a  magazine,  New  Currents,  which  had  the  approval  of  the  Jewish 
Commission  of  the  Communist  Party.  The  I'eople's  World  for  June  29,  1944, 
announced  that  a  Hollywood  chapter  of  the  American  Committee  of  Jewish 
Writers,  Artists,  and  Scientists  was  being  organized  and  that  Albert  Maltz  was 
among  the  members  of  the  organizing  committee.  Albert  Maltz  was  listed  as  a 
member  of  the  advisory  board  of  New  Currents,  in  the  December  1944  issue  of 
the  publication. 

50.  The  Jewish  People's  Fraternal  Order  is  an  affiliate  of  the  International 
Workers'  Order,  a  Communist-front  organization  previously  referred  to.  The 
Jewish  I'eople's  Fraternal  Order  is  headed  by  Albert  E.  Kahn,  one  of  the  leaders 
of  the  Communist  Party  in  New  York.  The  People's  World  for  September  14, 
194.",  carried  an  advertis'^'ment  announcing  that  a  rally  would  be  held  on  Septem- 
ber IT),  194.5,  at  the  Embassy  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles  under  the  auspices  of  the 
Jewish  People's  Fraternal  Order,  257  South  Spring  Street,  Los  Angeles.  Albei't 
Maltz  was  announced  as  one  of  the  speakers.  The  People's  World  for  September 
5,  1947,  page  5,  listed  Albert  INIaltz  as  one  of  the  participants  in  a  program  spon- 
sored by  the  Jewish  People's  Fraternal  Order  to  be  held  September  7.  1947.  at 
the  Philharmonic  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeles. 

51.  The  American  Youth  for  Democracy  is  the  official  successor  of  the  Young 
Comnnuiisf  League.  It  has  been  the  subject  of  a  report  by  the  House  Committee 
on  Un-Am'M-ican  Activities  which  described  its  character  in  detail.  Its  "sinister 
purposes"  have  been  denounced  by  the  director  of  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investi- 
gation (Congressional  Record,  Mar.  24,  1947,  p.  A1298).  The  P(>ople's  World, 
for  Deceml)er  1,  1944,  reflects  that  Albert  Maltz  is  a  sponsor  of  the  American 
Youtli  for  Democracy.  A  lettei-  of  the  organization  announcing  a.  meeting  for 
October  21,  1945,  in  Los  Angeles  shows  that  Alltert  Maltz  was  one  of  the  sponsors 
of  the  meeting.  A  leaflet  announcing  a  dinner  to  be  held  under  the  auspices  of 
the  American  Youth  for  Democracy  on  December  16,  1945,  at  the  Ambassador 

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382  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Hotel  ill  Los  Angelos  records  the  name  of  Albert  Maltz  as  a  member  of  the  dinner 
committee. 

52.  The  National  Committee  Against  Censorship  of  tiie  Theater  Arts  was 
formed  when  the  introduction  of  Communist  propaganda  themes  in  Federal 
theater  projects  aroused  considerable  i)ubiic  criticism  and  an  investigation  in 
Congress.  The  National  Conmiittee  defended  such  Connnunist  propaganda.  Rep- 
resented in  the  organization  were  the  Communist  Party  and  the  International 
Labor  Defense,  the  Communist  Party's  legal  arm.  Albert  Maltz  was  a  member  ot 
the  National  Committee  Against  Censorship  of  the  Theater  Arts,  according  to  the 
pamphlet  entitled,  "Censored" 

5o.  liook  and  .Magazine  Guild  was  a  local  of  the  Communist-dominated  United 
Office  and  Professional  Workers  of  America,  operating  in  the  book  and  magazine 
field.  The  Book  and  Magazine  Guild  interceded  in  behalf  of  Morris  U.  Schappes, 
an  avowed  Comnumist  teacher  convicted  of  perjury  in  New  York,  according  to  the 
Daily  Worker  for  September  23.  1941,  page  3.  A  pamphlet  put  out  by  the  Book 
and  Magazine  Guild.  28!)  Fourth  Avenue,  New  York  City,  dated  winter  1940,  and 
entitled,  "Courses  for  Publishing  Employes,"  listed  a  course.  The  Writer  and 
Oi'ganization,  given  by  Albert  Maltz. 

54.  Albert  Maltz  is  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  according  to  the 
sworn  testimony  of  Enunett  Laver.v,  guild  ijresident,  before  the  California  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities  (1047  report,  p.  283).  The  Screen  Writers 
Guild  participated  in  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization,  an  organization  pre- 
viously referred  to.  John  Howard  Lawson,  identified  by  the  Daily  Worker  for 
August  23,  1937,  page  7,  as  a  Communist  Party  member,  is  a  leading  figure  in 
the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

55.  The  National  Council  for  Public  Morale  was  headed  by  Arthur  Upham 
Pope,  the  official  American  biographer  of  the  Soviet  leader,  Maxim  Litvinoff; 
Pope  also  is  the  recipient  of  archeological  concessions  from  the  Soviet  Union. 
The  Washington  Post  for  May  24,  1943,  states  that  Arthur  Upham  Pope  of  the 
National  Council  for  Public  Moi-ale  had  made  public  an  open  letter  to  the  Presi- 
dent requesting  war  on  Finland.  Albert  Maltz  was  reported  as  one  of  the  signers 
of  the  open  letter. 

56.  The  People's  Institute  of  Applied  Religion  has  been  described  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  as  a  Communist  effort  to  gain  a 
foothold  in  the  South  by  exitloiting  the  well-known  religious  attachments  of  that 
section  of  the  country.  The  organization  is  headed  by  Claude  C.  Williams,  who 
the  Daily  Worker  has  reported  was  discharged  from  the  church  on  charges  of 
communism  in  1934.  An  undated  letterhead  of  the  People's  Institute  of  Applied 
Religion,  with  headuarters  in  Birmingham,  Ala.,  lists  the  name  of  Albert'Maltz 
among  its  sponsors. 

57.  The  Daily  Worker  for  August  25,  1947,  page  11,  described  with  acclaim 
the  filming  of  the  new  movie.  Naked  City,  at  that  time  on  location  in  New  York 
City;  the  newspaper  listed  Albert  Maltz  as  one  of  the  writers  of  the  screen 
play  for  the  movie. 

58.  Albert  Maltz'  writings  in  the  Daily  Worker  have  also  reflected  his  faith- 
fulness to  the  Communist  Party  line.  In  the  Daily  Worker  for  December  1(5, 
1933,  page  7,  Mr.  Maltz  and  playwright  George  Sklar,  with  whom  Mr.  Maltz  has 
collaborated  in  writing  plays,  are  the  joint  authors  of  an  article  entitled  "The 
Need  for  a  Workers  Theater."  The  article  calls  the  existing  Broadway  theater 
"a  sterile  theater''  and  states  : 

"It's  time  we  had  a  theater  which  will  reflect  the  fact  that  we're  living  in  a 
certain  type  of  society,  a  societ,y  gripped  by  the  most  severe  economic  crisis 
that  capitalism  has  known."  The  article  pointed  out  that  the  professional 
bourgeois  theater  would  become  more  and  more  a  theater  of  escape  as  "the 
class  struggle  deei)ens."  It  then  goes  on  to  say :  "This  is  not  so  in  the  Soviet 
Union.  W^e  see  there  an  interest  in  the  art  of  the  theater  such  as  the  world 
has  never  known  before.  We  see  a  theatrical  center  in  evei'.y  city,  in  every 
factory,  in  every  village.  Why?  Because  the  Soviet  theater  is  imt  a  theater  of 
the  privileged  class  but  the  theater  of  a  whole  countr.v,  of  a  wiiole  people.  And 
it  is  a  vital  theater  because  it  belongs  to  those  who  are  building  a  new  society 
and  not  to  those  who  are  clinging  to  a  dead  one.  The  future  of  the  theater 
in  America  lies  in  the  creation  of  a  workers'  theater. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripliiic;,  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Alvah  Bessie. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Bessie,  will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please? 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  383 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is 
,  the  truth,  the  Avhole  truth,  iuul  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 
Mr.  Bessie.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ALVAH  BESSIE 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

Mr.  Bessie.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  also  have  a  statement  I  would  like  to 
read  to  this  committee  if  you  would  like  to  examine  it,  or  would  you 
prefer  to  have  me  read  it  ^ 

The  Chairman.  We  will  be  pleased  to  examine  it.  First,  I  think 
Mr.  Stripling  ought  to  identify  the  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Bessie,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  present 
address  for  the  record,  please  ? 

Mr.  Bessie.  My  name  is  Alvah  Bessie  and  I  live  at  369  South  Cres- 
cent Drive,  Beverly  Hills,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Bessie  ? 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  was  born  in  New  York  City  on  June  4,  1904. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  here  before  the  committee  in  response  to 
a  subpena  which  was  served  upon  you  on  September  18,  calling  for 
your  appearance  before  the  committee  on  October  23  ? 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  am. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Did  you  receive  a  telegram  dated  October  11, 
addressed  to  you,  Mr.  Alvah  Bessie,  369  South  Crescent  Drive,  Beverly 
Hills,  Calif.,  which  read  as  follows : 

In  response  to  the  subpena  served  upon  you  summoning  you  to  appear  before 
the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  United  States  House  of  Representa- 
tives, Washington,  D.  C,  on  October  23,  you  are  hereby  directed  to  appear  on 
October  27,  instead  of  October  23.  at  the  hour  of  10:30  a.  m.,  room  226,  Old  House 
Office  Building,  Washington,  D.  C. 

Signed,  "J.  Parnell  Thomas,  chairman." 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  did. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  are  here  in  response  to  the  subpena  and  the 
summons *^^ 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  the  form  of  a  telegram  from  the  chairman? 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  would  like  to  ask  about  my  statement  at  this  point. 
May  I  be  permitted  to  read  the  statement  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  Bessie;  the  committee  is  con- 
sidering the  statement. 

Mr.  Kenney.  Do  you  have  a  copy  of  it  ? 

]\[r.  Bessie.  I  have  another  copy  of  it. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Bessie,  while  there  is  some  doubt  that  your 
statement  is  pertinent  to  the  inquiry,  as  will  be  very  evident  when  you 
read  it 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  would  still  like  to  have  permission  to  read  it. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  Nevertheless,  the  committee  is 
willing  that  you  read  the  statement.  We  are  just  wondering,  in  order 
to  save  time,  if  you  couldn't  read  the  first  couple  of  paragraphs  and 
then  let  us  put  it  in  the  record  at  this  point,  just  as  we  did  with  the 
record  of  Mr.  Maltz. 

Mr.  Bessie.  In  accordance  with  your  request,  I  will  read  the  first 
two  paragraphs  and  the  last  two, 

"^  See  apiieiulix,  p.  541,  for  exhibits  73  and  74. 


384  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman.  That  is  fine.    Thank  you  very  much.    Proceed. 

Mr.  Bessie.  It  is  my  understanding  of  the  first  amendment  to  our 
Constitution  that  it  expressly  forbids  Congress  to  pass  any  law  which 
shall  abridge  freedom  of  speech  or  of  opinion.  And  it  is  my  under- 
standing of  the  f  miction  of  congressional  committees  that  they  are  set 
up  by  the  Congress  for  the  express  purpose  of  inquiring  into  matter 
that  may  lead  to  the  initiation  of  legislation  in  the  Congress. 

Now  either  the  Constitution  and  its  Bill  of  Rights  mean  what  they 
say  or  they  do  not  mean  what  they  say.  Either  the  first  amendment 
is  binding  upon  Congress  and  all  legislative  bodies  of  our  Government, 
or  it  means  nothing  at  all.  I  cannot  agree  with  this  so-called  com- 
mittee in  its  implied  belief  that  the  Bill  of  Rights  means  whatever  this 
body  chooses  it  to  mean,  or  is  applicable  only  to  those  with  whose 
opinions  this  committee  is  in  agreement. 

Those  are  the  first  two  paragraphs.     Now,  the  last  two  paragraphs. 

In  calling  me  from  my  home  this  body  hopes  also  to  rake  over  the 
smoldering  embers  of  the  war  that  was  fought  in  Spain  from  1938  to 
1939.  This  body,  in  all  its  previous  manifestations,  is  on  record  as 
believing  that  support  of  the  Spanish  Republic  was  and  is  subversive, 
un-American,  and  Communist-inspired.  That  lie  was  originally 
spawned  by  Hitler  and  Franco,  and  the  majority  of  the  American 
people — in  fact,  the  majority  of  the  people  of  the  world — never  be- 
lieved it.  And  I  want  it  on  the  record  at  this  point  that  I  not  only 
supported  the  Spanish  Republic  but  that  it  was  my  high  privilege  and 
the  greatest  honor  I  have  ever  enjoyed  to  have  been  a  volunteer  sol- 
dier in  the  ranks  of  its  International  Brigades  throughout  1938.  And 
I  shall  continue  to  support  the  Spanish  Republic  until  the  Spanish 
people  in  their  majesty  and  power  remove  Francisco  Franco  and  all 
his  supporters  and  reestablish  the  legal  government  Franco  and  his 
Nazi  and  Italian  Fascist  soldiers  overthrew. 

The  understanding  that  led  me  to  fight  in  Spain  for  that  republic, 
and  my  experience  in  that  war,  teach  me  that  this  committee  is  en- 
gaged in  precisely  the  identical  activities  engaged  in  by  un-Spanish 
committees,  un-German  committees,  and  un-Italian  committees  which 
preceded  it  in  every  country  which  eventually  succumbed  to  fascism. 
I  will  never  aid  or  abet  such  a  committee  in  its  patent  attempt  to  foster 
the  sort  of  intimidation  and  terror  that  is  the  inevitable  precursor  of 
a  Fascist  regime.  And  I  therefore  restate  my  conviction  that  this 
body  has  no  legal  authority  to  pry  into  the  mind  or  activities  of  any 
American  who  believes,  as  I  do,  in  the  Constitution,  and  who  is  will- 
ing at  any  time  to  fight  to  preserve  it— as  I  fought  to  preserve  it  m 

Spain.  .     ,  ^  .  . 

The  Chairman.  And  now,  Mr.  Bessie,  m  accordance  with  our  agree- 
ment, the  whole  statement  will  be  placed  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Bessie.  Thank  you. 

(The  statement  is  as  follows:) 

Statement  of  Alvah  Bessie  to  the  House  Committee  on  Un-Amekican 

Activities 

It  is  mv  understanding  of  tlie  first  amendment  to  our  Constitution  that  it 
expressly  forbids  Congress  to  pass  any  law  which  shall  abridge  freedom  of  speech 
or  of  opinion.  And  it  is  my  understanding  of  the  function  of  congressional  com- 
mittees that  they  are  set  up  by  the  Congress  for  the  express  purpose  of  inquiring 
into  matter  that  may  lead  to  "the  initiation  of  legislation  iu  the  Congress. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  385 

Now  either  the  Constitution  and  its  Bill  of  Rights  mean  what  they  say  or  they 
do  not  mean  what  they  say.  Either  the  first  amendment  is  binding  upon  Con- 
gress and  all  legislative  bodies  of  our  Government  or  it  means  nothing  at  all. 
I  can.not  agree  with  this  so-called  committee  in  its  implied  belief  that  the  Bill 
of  Rights  mt'ans  whatever  this  body  chooses  it  to  mean,  or  it  is  applicable  only 
to  those  with  whose  opinions  and  activities  this  committee  is  in  agreement. 

1  am  not  in  agreement  witli  the  opinions,  activities,  or  objectives  of  this  com- 
mittee or  any  committee  remotely  resembling  it.  And  since  the  only  legisla- 
tion this  committee  could  possibly  initiate  would  automatically  abridge  freedom 
of  speech  and  opinion,  and  would  therefore  be  automatically  unconstitutional,  I 
have  come  to  the  conclusion,  that  will  eventually  be  borne  out  by  events,  that  this 
body  is  totally  unconstitutional  and  without  power  to  inciuire  into  anything  I 
think,  believe,  uphold,  and  cherish,  or  anything  I  have  ever  written  or  said,  or 
any  organization  I  have  ever  joined  or  failed  to  join. 

As  a  one-time  newspaperman  I  have  been  deeply  interested  in  the  mounting 
reaction  of  disapproval  by  the  press  of  the  Nation  of  the  activities  of  this  com- 
mittee. When  tlie  conservative  New  York  Herald  Tribune  can  say  "*  *  *  the 
beliefs  of  men  and  women  who  write  for  the  screen  are,  like  the  beliefs  of  any 
ordinary  men  or  women,  everybody's  business  but  their  own,  as  the  Bill  of  Rights 
mentions.  Neither  Mr.  Thomas  nor  the  Congress  in  which  he  sits  is  empowered 
to  dictate  what  Americans  shall  think  *  *  *"  ;  and  when  the  Washington  Post 
can  state  that  this  "*  *  *  supercolossal  Hollywood  investigation  is  [intended] 
to  intimidate  and  coerce  the  industry  into  an  even  more  rigid  acceptance  of  Mr. 
Thomas'  concepts  of  Americanism  *  *  *"  ;  and  when  the  Chicago  Times  can 
say,  "'Of  course,  the  real  object  of  Chairman  Thomas  and  the  reactionary  Repub- 
lican majority  of  the  House  Un-American  Activities  Committee  is  not  primarily 
to  uncover  subversive  infli^ences  in  Hollywood.  It  is  to  smear  New  Dealers  and 
whatever  their  progressive  successors  may  be  called  *  *  *" — then  it  is  not 
difficult  tor  any  intelligent  person  to  realize  that  if  this  investigation  is  permitted 
to  achieve  its  inuuediate  objective,  it  will  not  hesitate  to  move  on  from  the  motion- 
picture  industry  it  has  emasculated,  to  the  tlirottling  of  the  press,  the  radio,  the 
theater,  and  the  book  publishers  of  America.  We  saw  this  imttern  at  work  before, 
in  Hitler's  Germany,  and  we  understand  it  thoroughly.  The  true  purpose  of  this 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  is  to  provide  the  atmosphere  and  to  act  as 
the  spearhead  for  the  really  un-American  forces  preparing  a  Fascist  America. 

In  calling  me  from  my  home  this  body  hopes  also  to  rake  over  the  smoldering 
embers  of  the  war  that  was  fought  in  Spain  in  1938  to  1930.  This  body  in  all 
its  previous  manifestations  is  on  record  as  believing  that  support  of  the  Spanish 
Republic  was  and  is  subversive,  un-American,  and  Communist-inspired.  That  lie 
was  originally  spawned  by  Hitler  and  Franco,  and  the  majority  of  the  American 
people — in  fact,  the  majority  of  the  people  of  the  world — never  believed  it.  And 
I  want  it  on  the  record  at  tliis  point  that  I  not  only  supported  the  Spanish  Republic 
but  that  it  was  my  liigh  privilege  and  the  greatest  honor  I  have  ever  enjoyed  to 
have  been  a  volunteer  soldier  in  tlie  ranks  of  its  International  Brigades  through- 
out 1938.  And  I  .shall  continue  to  support  the  Spanish  Republic  until  the  Spanish 
people  in  the  majesty  and  power  remove  Francisco  Franco  and  all  his  supporters 
and  reestablish  the  legal  government  Franco  and  his  Nazi  and  Italian  Fascist 
soldiers  overthrew. 

The  understanding  that  led  me  to  fight  in  Spain  for  that  republic,  and  my 
experience  in  that  war,  teach  me  that  this  conunittee  is  engaged  in  i^recisely  the 
identical  activities  engaged  in  by  un-Spanish  committees,  un-German  committees, 
and  un-Italian  committees  which  preceded  it  in  every  country  whicli  eventually 
succumbed  to  fascism.  I  will  never  aid  or  abet  such  a  committee  in  its  patent 
attempt  to  foster  the  sort  of  intimidation  and  teri-or  that  is  the  inevitable  pre- 
cursor of  a  Fascist  regime.  And  I  therefore  restate  my  conviction  that  this  body 
has  no  legal  authority  to  pry  into  the  mind  or  activities  of  any  American  who 
believes,  as  I  do.  in  the  Constitution,  and  who  is  willing  at  any  time  to  fight  to 
©reserve  it — as  I  fought  to  preserve  it  in  Spain. 

The  Chairm.vn.  Mr.  Striplino;. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Bessie,  I  am  going  to  address  certain  questions 
to  you  and  I  liope  you  will  give  me  a  responsive  answer. 
Mr.  Bessie.  I  will  do  my  best. 
Mr.  Striplixg.  "\'Vliat  is  your  occupation? 
Mr.  Bessie.  I  am  a  writer. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  ever  been  employed  in  the  motion-picture 
industry? 

Mr,  Bessie.  I  have  been  employed  on  and  off  in  the  mot  ion -picture 
industry  since  January  1943. 

Mr,  Stkipi.ixg.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers"  Guild? 
Mr,  Bessie,  This  is  the  same  sort  of  a  question  that  was  asked  of 
other  witnesses.     It  involves  a  question  of  my  association. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  refuse  to  answer  the  question? 
Mr.  Bessie.  I  have  not  refused  to  answer  the  question,  but  I  must 
answer  the  question  in  the  only  way  in  which  I  know  how,  and  that  is, 
that  I  believe  that  such  a  question  violates  my  right  of  association  and 
is  not  properly  falling — I  do  not  believe  it  falls  properly  within  the 
scope  of  this  committee's  inquiry, 

Mr.  Stripling,  We  will  move  on  to  the  $64  question,  Mr.  Bessie. 
Are  you  now  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Bessie.  Mr.  Stripling  and  gentlemen  of  the  committee,  unless 
it  has  been  changed  since  yesterday  in  our  country,  we  have  a  secret 
ballot;  and  I  do  not  believe  this  committee  has  any  more  right  to  in- 
quire into  my  political  affiliations  than  I  believe  an  election  official 
has  the  right  to  go  into  the  voting  booth  and  examine  the  ballot  which 
has  been  marked  by  the  voter.  General  Eisenhower  himself  has 
refused  to  reveal  his  political  affiliations,  and  what  is  good  enough 
for  General  Eisenhower  is  good  enough  for  me. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Bessie,  this  committee  has  officially  found  that 
the  Conmiunist  Party  in  the  United  States  is  not  a  political  party 
but  is,  in  fact,  the  agent  of  a  foreign  government.  I  will  ask  you 
again :  Are  you  now,  or  have  you  ever  been,  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party? 

Mr,  Bessie.  Mr.  Stripling,  if  you  did  not  understand  the  answer 

to  my  question 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  understood  your  answer. 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  suggest  you  have  the  secretary  read  it  back  to  j'ou, 
Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Bessie,  there  have  been  charges  made  before 
this  committee  that  you  are  a  Communist.  I  didn't  notice  anywhere 
in  your  statement  that  you  denied  that  charge.  You  are  now  being 
given  an  opportunity  to  deny  whether  or  not  you  are  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party.  You  have  not  answered  whether  or  not  you 
are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr,  Bessie,  In  the  statement  which  you  were  kind  enough  to  permit 
me  to  read,  I  stated  I  stand  on  the  Bill  of  Rights  on  this  issue ;  and 
I  think  either  the  Bill  of  Rights  means  something  or  it  doesn't;  and 
if  it  doesn't  mean  anything,  it  is  news  to  me,  and  I  think  it  would 
be  great  news  to  the  majority  of  the  American  people. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  ask  you  to  direct  the  witness  to 
answer  the  question  whether  or  not  he  is  now  or  has  ever  been  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Communist  Party,  which  is  the  essence  of  this  entire  matter. 
The  Chairman.  Mr.  Bessie,  in  order  to  save  a  lot  of  time,  we  would 
like  to  know  whether  you  are  or  have  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party.  We  would  like  a  very  frank  answer.  You  can  an- 
swer it  "yes"  or  "no" ;  or  if  you  don't  care  to  answer  it,  just  say  so. 

Mr.  Bessie.  Mr.  Thomas,  with  whatever  respect  is  due  this  com- 
mittee, I  now  state  I  have  given  you  my  answer  to  this  question.  I 
have  not  attempted  to  evade  the  question.     I  have  given  you  the 


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answer  to  the  questions,  accordino;  to  my  understanding:  of  what  pro- 
tections are  offered  tlie  American  people,  and  I  object  violently  to  the 
procedure  this  connnittee  engages  in.  in  an  attempt  to  make  people 
state  what  they  think,  believe,  with  whom  they  associate,  whom  they 
go  to  dinner  with,  or  what  have  you. 

The  Chairman.  The  only  part  of  your  answer  I  can  remember  is 
that  part  about  General  Eisenhower;  and  I  don't  think  that  is  a 

Mr.  Bessie.  May  I  ask  if  you  would  have  General  Eisenhower  here 
and  ask  him 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  minute. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute. 

IVIi'.  Bessie.  And  ask  him  whether  he  is  a  member  of  the  Kepublican 
or  Democratic  Party. 

The  Chairman.  I  don't  think  that  was  a  responsive  answer  to  the 
question.  What  we  are  attempting  to  do — wdiat  this  committee  of 
Congress  is  attempting  to  do — is  to  ascertain  the  extent  of  Com- 
munist infiltration  in  the  moving-picture  industry. 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  don't  believe  that  that  is  what  this  committee  is  try- 
ing to  do. 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  believe  what  this  committee  is  trying  to  do 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  Bessie.  Is  to  do  exactly  the  same  thing 

The  Chairman.  I  am  tellmg  you  what  the  committee  is  trying  to 
do.    We  know  exactly  what  the  committee  is  trying  to  do. 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  have  my  own  opinion  of  it. 

The  Chairman.  That  is  all  right;  you  can  have  any  opinion  you 
want. 

]Mr.  Bessie.  Thank  you. 

The  Chairman.  The  committee  would  like  to  know  now  whether 
you  have  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  or  whether 
you  are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  now? 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  have  given  you  several  answers  to  that  question,  and 
that  is  the  best  I  can  do  for  you,  Mr,  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Then  do  you 

Mr.  Bessie.  Because  I  believe  you  are  violating  my  rights  as  an 
American  citizen. 

The  Chairman.  So  you  refuse? 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  am  not  refusing.  I  have  told  you  that  is  the  answer 
I  have  given  j^ou.  The  answer  is  now  recorded  several  times.  I 
don't  believe  you  have  the  right  to  ask  this  question  of  anybody. 

The  Chairman.  It  is  very  apparent  you  are  following  the  same 
line  of  these  other  witnesses. 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  am  following  no  line 

The  Chairman  (continuing).  Which  is  definitely  the  Communist 
line. 

Mr.  Bessie.  I  am  using  my  own  head,  which  I  am  f)rivileged  to  do. 

The  Chairman.  You  are  excused.  If  you  want  to  make  a  speech, 
go  out  here  under  a  big  tree. 

JSIr.  Bessie.  Thank  you.     [Laughter.] 

The  Chairman  (])ounding  gavel).  May  we  have  order,  please. 

Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling,  before  you  start,  I  just  want  to  make  one  observa- 
tion for  the  committee.     I  am  very  definite  in  this,  to.     It  is  my 


388  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

belief  that  if  General  Eisenhower  were  a  witness  before  this  com- 
mittee and  he  was  asked  the  question,  "Are  you  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party  ^"  he  would  not  only  be  very  responsive  to  the 
question,  but  he  would  be  absolutely  insulted,  and  solely  for  this 
reason :  A  great  man  like  General  Eisenhower  would  not  ever  think 
or  dream  or  stoop  to  ever  being  a  low-down  Communist.  Go  ahead. 
[Loud  applause.] 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  again  I  will  ask  Mr,  Russell  to  take 
the  stand. 

Mr.  Russell,  you  have  been  sworn  and  you  have  been  identified  as 
an  investigator  for  this  committee? 

Mr.  Russell,  Yes,  sir, 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  EUSSELL 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  detailed  to  make  an  investigation  to  de- 
termine whether  or  not  Alvah  Bessie  was  ever  at  any  time  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  was. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  did  your  investigation  disclose? 

Mr.  Russell.  During  the  course  of  my  investigation  I  secured  in- 
formation relating  to  the  registration  card  of  Alvah  Bessie  in  the 
Communist  Party  of  the  United  States.  I  have  a  photostatic  copy 
of  the  registration  card  of  Alvah  Bessie  in  the  Communist  Party  of 
the  United  States,  which  bears  the  number  "47279"  and  which  con- 
tains the  notation,  "1944,  card  No.  46836." 

It  contains  the  name  "Alvah  Bessie,"  His  address  is  given  as  "4653 
Coldwater  Canyon;  city,  Hollywood;  county,  Los  Angeles;  State, 
California." 

It  contains  a  notation,  "New  card  issued  on  December  10,  1944." 
The  description  of  Alvah  Bessie  is  given  as  follows:  "Male;  white; 
occupation,  writer ;  industry,  motion  pictures."  The  question  is  then 
asked :  "Member  of  CIO,  A.  F.  of  L.,  independent  union,  or  no  union?" 
"Independent  union"  is  checked. 

The  question  on  the  bottom  of  the  card,  "Is  member  club  subscriber 
for  Daily  Worker?"  Above  that  notation  "Daily  Worker"  there  is 
contained  in  ink  the  notation,  "P.  W.,"  meaning  the  "Peoples  World." 
The  answer  "Yes"  is  checked.*'- 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  all,  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  have  here  a  memorandum  prepared  by  the  in- 
vestigative and  research  staff  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Ac- 
tivities dealing  with  the  Communist  affiliations  of  Alvah  Bessie.  It 
is  contained  on  7  pages  and  lists  32  separate  affiliations. 

With  the  Chair's  permission,  I  will  ask  Mr.  Mandel,  director  of 
research,  to  read  this  memorandum.    Is  that  agreeable  to  the  Chair? 

The  Chairman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Mandel  (reading)  : 

Information  From  the  Files  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
United  States  House  of  Representatives,  on  the  Communist  Affiliations  of 
Alvah  Bessie 

Aecoi'dins  to  the  Motion  Picture  Almanac,  Alvali  Bessie  is  credited  with  the 
writing  of  the  following  motion  pictures :  Northern  Pursuit,  Warner  Bros.,  1943 ; 

*-  See  appendix,  p.  541,,  for  exhibit  75. 


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The  Very  Thouglit  of  Yon,  Warner  Bros.,  1944  ;  Hotel  Berlin,  Warner  Bros.,  1945 ; 
and  Objective  Burma,  Warner  Bros.,  1945. 

1.  According  to  the  records  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
Alvah  Bessie  is  one  of  the  leading  contributors  to  the  Communist  publica- 
tions in  the  United  States. 

Ht!  has  been  connected  witli  New  Masses,  a  weekly  publication  of  the  Com- 
munist Party,  as  contributing  editor,  since  1937.  During  this  period  he  has 
contributed  over  85  articles.  As  a  standard  Communist  rule,  such  officials  of 
the  Communist  press  are  required  to  be  members  of  the  party. 

2.  The  People's  World  of  O'ctoljer  11,  1939,  which  is  the  official  Communist 
organ  of  the  west  coast  of  the  United  States,  devotes  an  article  in  praise  of  the 
writings  of  Alvah  Bessie.  The  People's  World  of  August  26,  1943,  lists  Alvah 
Bessie  as  a  speaker  at  a  benetit  given  nnder  the  auspices  of  People's  World. 

3.  In  the  September  22,  1942,  issue  of  the  Weekly  Review,  a  publication  of  the 
Young  Communist  League,  Alvah  Bessie  is  listed  as  an  instructor  at  the  Workers 
School  in  New  York  City.  The  Workers  School  was  established  by  the  Communist 
Party  of  the  United  States.  Alvah  Bessie  has  also  been  an  instructor  at  the 
People's  Educational  Center  (People's  World,  January  11,  1944,  p.  5). 

4.  Alvah  Bessie,  according  to  the  November  16,  1943,  issue  of  People's  World, 
was  a  speaker  at  a  West  Side  Los  Angeles  rally  sponsored  by  the  International 
Workers  Order.  The  International  Workers  Order,  a  Communist-front  organiza- 
tion, has  been  cited  as  such  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
on  .January  3,  1940,  June. 25,  1943,  and  May  29,  1946. 

In  addition  to  this  citation,  it  was  cited  by  the  House  Committee  on  Appropria- 
tions, in  a  report  dated  April  21,  1943,  and  by  special  legislative  committees  of 
the  States  of  Pennsylvania,  Massachusetts,  and  California. 

Former  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle,  in  his  listing  of  Communist-front 
organizations,  which  appeared  in  tlie  Congressional  Record  of  September  24,  1943, 
characterized  the  International  Workers  Order  as  "one  of  the  strongest  Com- 
munist organizations."  The  People's  World  of  November  10,  1942,  lists  Alvah 
Bessie  as  the  coauthor  of  a  pamphlet  issued  by  the  International  Workers  Order 
in  connection  with  its  front-line  fighter's  campaign. 

5.  Alvah  Bessie  was  a  contributor  to  the  July  and  September  1937  and  January 
1938  issues  of  the  magazine  Fight,  which  magazine  was  the  official  publication 
of  the  American  League  Against  War  and  Fascism.  The  American  League 
Against  War  and  Fascism  was  active  in  the  period  1932  to  1937  in  behalf  of  the 
Soviet  foreign  policy.     It  proclaimed  an  openly  treasonable  program. 

It  was  cited  as  subversive  by  the  Special  Committee  on  un-American  Activities 
on  January  3,  1940,  March  29,  1944,  and  May  29,  1946.  Former  Attorney  General 
Francis  Biddle  cited  this  organiaztion  as  established  in  the  United  States  in  an 
effort  to  create  public  sentiment  on  behalf  of  a  foreign  policy  adapted  to  the 
interests  of  the  Soviet  Union. 

6.  Alvah  Bessie  was  also  the  sponsor  of  the  organization  known  as  the  Artists' 
Front  to  Win  the  War  (the  official  program,  October  16,  1942).  While  in  1942  all 
Americans  wei-e  interested  in  winning  the  war,  the  Artists'  Front  to  Win  the 
War  echoed  the  demand  of  the  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States  for  the 
express  purpose  of  placing  pressui'e  upon  the  military  leaders  in  this  country 
by  a  demand  for  an  immediate  opening  of  a  second  front  in  Europe  at  a  time 
when  Russia  was  suffering  military  reversals.  The  Artists'  Front  to  Win  the 
War  was  sponsored  by  the  same  persons  who,  during  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact,  were 
referring  to  the  United  States  as  a  war-mongering  nation  and  demanding  the 
discontinuance  of  America's  lease-lend  program,  which  was  designed  to  aid  Great 
Britain  in  its  struggle  against  Nazi  Germany. 

7.  Alvah  Bessie  was  a  sponsor  and  consistent  supporter  of  the  League  of 
American  Writers  (New  Masses,  April  22,  1941,  and  June  17,  1941 ;  Daily  Worker, 
September  14,  1942;  and  People's  World,  September  23,  1942).  The  League  of 
American  Writers,  which  was  an  affiliate  of  the  International  Union  of  Revolu- 
tionary Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  was  pledged  to  the  defense  of  the 
Soviet  Union  and  "use  of  art  as  an  instnunent  of  the  class  struggle."  The  Special 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  has  cited  this  organization  as  a  Communist 
front  in  reports  of  January  3.  1940,  June  25.  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.  Former 
Attorney  General  Fi-ancis  Biddle  in  his  characterization  of  this  organization 
stated  "the  overt  activities  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  in  the  last  2  years 
leave  little  doubt  of  its  Communist  control"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24, 
1942,  p.  7686). 

8.  Alvah  Bessie  has  openly  avowed  himself  in  support  of  the  Soviet  L'nion. 
He  has  also  contributed  articles  to  the  magazine  Soviet  Russia  Today,  which 


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magazine  is. devoted  to  tlie  interests  of  the  Soviet  Union  (September  1937,  p.  6; 
October  1941,  p.  30 ;  .lanuary  1942,  p.  29  ;  and  Fel)ruar.v  1942,  p.  29) . 

9.  Karl  Krowder,  former  head  of  the  rommnnist  Party  of  the  United  States,  in 
testifying  before  tlie  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  stated  tliat 
the  Communist  Party  formed  certain  of  its  members — certain  of  its  members — 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Mandel,  liow  far  have  3^011  "one  now? 

Mr.  Maxdi-x.  I  am  now  on  point  9  and  tliere  are  32  points  in  all.  I 
am  on  pa^^e  2  and  there  are  seven  pa^es  in  all. 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  the  Chair  will  rule  that  further  reading 
be  dispensed  with  and  the  material  consisting  of  5  more  pages  and 
37  citations  be  placed  in  the  record  at  this  point. 

(The  material  referred  to  above  is  as  follows :) 

into  a  fighting  force  known  as  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  for  participation 
in  the  Spanish  force  known  as  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  for  participation  in 
the  Spanish  Civil  War.  This  effort  was  initiated  at  tlie  Seventh  Congress  of  the 
Communist  International  in  the  summer  of  193.5.  Alvah  Bessie  was  a  staff  officer 
of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  and  fought  in  Spain  as  an  ally  of  other  Com- 
munist units  which  were  supporting  the  loyalist  cause  (People's  World  of  De- 
cember 30,  1942;  files  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities). 

10.  Alvah  Bessie  was  a  member  of  the  advisory  board  of  the  periodical  New 
Currents  (March  1944)  and  a  member  of  the  editorial  staff  of  the  publication 
Mainstream  (winter  1947).  Both  these  publications  were  organized  by  leading 
Communists  and  supported  by  the  Communist  press. 

11.  The  Daily  Worker  for  December  12,  1938,  carries  an  article  entitled 
"Unions  Will  Form  Guai'd  of  Honor"  concerning  the  arrival  of  1.50  veterans 
of  the  Lincoln  Brigade.  Alvah  Bessie  was  listed  as  a  commissar  in  the  returning 
group. 

The  Daily  Worl^er  for  December  14,  1938  also  carries  an  article  concerning 
the  returning  veterans  of  the  Lincoln  Brigade  entitled  "Huge  Parade  Will 
Greet  Boys  at  Ship."  Returning  veterans  are  listed  according  to  State,  and  the 
name  Alvah  Bessie  is  listed  under  the  State  of  New  York. 

12.  The  Daily  Worker  for  January  11,  1941  carries  an  article  on  page  7 
entitled  "Bells  Toll  for  Hemingway  at  Vets'  Symposium."  This  article  stated 
that  a  number  of  the  veterans  of  the  Spanish  Civil  War,  being  angered  at  the 
picture  of  tlie  Spanish  Civil  War  presented  by  Ernest  Hemingway  in  his 
latest  book.  For  Whom  the  Bell  Tolls,  had  announced  their  intention  of  speaking 
from  the  floor  at  a  symposium  of  the  book  which  was  to  be  held  at  50  East 
Thirteenth  Street  (the  headquarters  of  the  Communist  Party  U.  S.  A.)  under 
the  auspices  of  the  Workers  School.  Alvah  Bessie,  sergeant  adjutant  of  the 
Lincoln  Battalion  and  well-known  short-story  writer  and  novelist  was  listed 
as  one  of  the  speakers. 

13.  A  leaflet  which  was  distributed  in  the  Los  Angeles  area  disclosed  that  a 
meeting  sponsored  by  the  American  Committee  for  Siwnish  Freedom  and  by  the 
Veterans  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  was  to  be  held  at  the  Embassy  Audi- 
torium, 843  South  Grand  Avenue,  Los  Angeles,  Calif.  On  June  10,  194(i,  Alvah 
Bessie  undertook  to  act  as  chairman  of  this  meeting,  introducing  first  Russell 
Nixon,  described  as  a  former  professor  of  Harvard  University  and  am  economist 
of  the  United  Electrical,  Radio,  and  Machine  Woi-ker.s  of  America,  CIO,  a 
Comnumist-controlled  union. 

14.  The  Daily  Worker  for  September  29,  1946,  on  page  3  carries  a  photograph 
of  Gen.  Karol  Swierczewski,  of  Soviet-controlled  Poland,  pictui'ed  with  Ameri- 
cans whom  he  decorated  with  the  Dombrowski  Medal  at  the  national  convention 
of  the  Veterans  of  the  Abf'abam  Lincoln  Brigade.  Bart  van  der  Schelling 
accepted  the  award  for  Alvah  Bessie. 

15.  The  publication  Volunteer  for  Liberty  for  November  1940  in  reporting 
the  ele<'tion  of  officers  of  tlie  Veterans  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  listed 
Alvah  Bessie  as  a  member  of  the  national  executive  board. 

16.  xVlynh  Bessie  was  listed  as  a  sponsor  for  a  theatrical  jirograiu  to  be  held 
January  19,  1947,  at  the  Valeska  Theater,  New  York,  entitled  "Stars  Entertain 
for  Rei)ul)lioport  for  international  Communist 
agents  likie  Gerhardt  Eisler. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  391 

It  has  been  cited  ft)r  contempt  of  Congress.  Alvah  Bessie  took  part  in  this 
meeting  and  made  an  ehxpient  plea  for  money,  stating  that  $r)()0,00()  was  needed 
to  carry  out  the  program  of  relief  undertaken  by  the  connnittee.  He  stated  that 
a  $(JO.0O0  hospital  was  to  be  built  in  Mexico  and  that  the  money  was  to  be  used 
to  take  care  of  Loyalists  wherever  they  might  be.  During  the  taking  of  the 
collection,  Bessie  took  off  his  necktie  and  said  he  woiUd  auction  it  olT  to  the 
highest  bidder.  He  stated  that  the  tie  had  a  history,  that  when  he  was  in  Spain 
in  1!)37  and  1!)88  with  the  Abraham  Lincohi  Brigade,  he  Jiad  purchased  the  tie  at 
Barcelona,  Spain. 

The  Joint  Anti-Fa.scist  Refugee  Connnittee,  together  with  the  Council  on  African 
Affairs,  held  a  diyner  at  the  Ambassador  Hotel,  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  February  4, 
1945.  Alvah  Bessie  attended  this  meeting  and  introduced  the  featured  speaker 
of  the  evening,  Paul  Robeson,  who  is  devout  Soviet  apologist. 

Virginia  Wright  in  her  column  in  the  Los  Angeles  Daily  News,  June  11,  1945, 
stated  that  Alvah  Bessie,  Warner  Bros,  screen  writer,  would  be  the  principal 
spealvor  Saturday  night  in  tlie  garden  cabaret  to  be  held  for  tlie  benefit  of  the 
Spanish  niaquis  at  63t)  R.  Reese  Place,  Bnrbank.  Tliis  article  stated  tliat : 
"Some  50,000  Spanish  maquis,  remnants  of  tlie  men  who  fought  for  the  Spanish 
Republic  then  joined  with  the  United  Nations  in  liberating  France,  are  now 
destitute  in  Europe. 

"It  is  of  these  Alvah  Bessie  speaks  with  knowledge.  He  was  one  of  the 
groups  of  Americans  who  fought  in  Spain  as  part  of  the  famous  Lincoln  Brigade." 

It  was  further  indicated  that  the  program  was  planned  by  the  Bnrbank  chapter 
of  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee  Committee. 

18.  The  Daily  Worker  for  September  27,  1942,  published  a  class  schedule  for  the 
Workers  School.  35  East  Twelfth  Street,  New  York  City.  This  was  at  the  time 
the  official  school  of  Communist  Party  conducted  at  party  headquarters.  Alvah 
Bessie  is  listed  as  teaching  a  course  "Literature  and  the  world  we  live  in." 

■  On  page  17  of  a  booklet  entitled  "Workers  School"  announcing  courses  for 
the  winter  term,  1943,  Alvah  Cecil  Bessie  was  listed  as  lecturing  on  literature  and 
the  world  we  live  in,  which  is  stated  to  be  a  course  of  12  lectures  (and  discus- 
sions) that  will  attempt  to  relate  the  world  in  which  we  live  to  some  outstanding 
achievements  of  literary  art  of  our  time.  The  announcement  states  that  leading 
dramatic  writers  (Steinbeck,  Smolokov,  Richard  Wright,  Lillian  Hellman,  Clifford 
Odets.  and  others)  will  be  used  as  a  point  of  departure  for  discussions  of  the 
history  of  social  institutions  as  they  have  been  reflected  by  the  writers  of  all  times. 

19.  The  School  for  Writers,  1717  North  Vine  Street,  Hollywood,  Calif.,  which 
was  sponsored  by  the  League  of  American.  Writers,  in  a  prospectus  for  the  summer 
term  of  1943  shows  Alvah  Bessie  as  teaching  a  course  in  short  stories.  The 
note*  on  the  facility  on  the  back  of  this  prospectus  carries  the  following  informa- 
tion concerning  Bessie : 

20.  A  letterhead  on  recent  literature  put  out  by  the  American-Russian  Insti- 
tute of  Southern  California  lists  Alvah  Bessie  as  being  on  the  board  of  directors. 
This  organization  has  conducted  active  pro-Soviet  propaganda. 

21.  In  a  pamphlet  entitled  "Informed  Speakers  Offer  You  Facts  on  the 
U.  S.  S.  R."  there  appeared  the  following  information: 

"The  American  Council  on  Soviet  Relations  has  a  speakers'  bureau  to  supply 
just  such  information.  We  can  provide  your  organization  with  speakers  who 
by  study  or  by  personal  experience  know  the  Soviet  Union." 

Alvah  Bessie  was  listed  as  an  available  speaker. 

A  lO-ceii't  pamphlet  by  Alvah  Bessie,  The  Soviet  People  at  War,  was  published 
b.v  the  American  Council  on  Soviet  Relations,  112  East  Nineteenth  Street,  New 
York.  This  organization  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  party  by  the  Special 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944,  and  by  the  Committee 
for  Cultural  Freedom,  headed  by  John  Dewey  in  April  1940. 

A  pamphlet  entitled  "Hear  About  the  U.  S.  vS.  R."  was  published  by  the  Na- 
tional Council  of  American-Soviet  Friendship.  This  pamphlet  explains  the 
speakers"  bureau  of  the  organization  and  is  addressed  particularl.v  ^  organiza- 
tions who  might  be  interested  in  securing  a  speaker  on  various  Russian  topics. 
Alvah  Bessie,  author  of  Men  in  Battle,  was  listed  as  an  available  speaker. 

22.  The  Daily  Worker  for  December  29.  1942,  carries  an  article  captioned 
"Allied  notables  hail  IWO  booklet  on  war."  The  article  states  that  numerous 
acknowledgments  from  prominent  leaders  in  all  walks  of  life  were  putting  into 
the  International  Workers  Order  offices  in  New  York  City  on  receipt  of  a  fraternal 
de  luxe  limited  edition  of  Tliis  Is  Your  Enemy,  written  by  Alvah  Bessie,  Ameri- 
can novelist. 

The  International  Workers  Order  arranged  a  symposium  for  November  22. 
1&43,  to  be  held  at  the  Studio  Carpenters  Hall,  5164  Santa  Monica  Boulevard, 


392  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Los  Angeles,  Calif.  Approximately  530  people  attended  Instant  meeting.  Alvah 
Bessie  spoke. 

Tlie  People's  World  newspaper  for  March  17,  194.5,  reports  that  Alvah  Bessie 
would  speak  on  the  last  line  in  the  Axis  chain  on  Monday,  March  19,  1945,  at 
the  Screen  Cartoonist  Guild,  6272  Yucca,  Hollywood.  According  to  the  announce- 
ment, admission  would  he  free  and  refreshments  would  be  served  under  the 
auspices  of  lodge  469  of  the  International  Workers  Order. 

23.  The  Daily  People's  World  for  November  13,  1945,  in  a  write-up  on  a  meeting 
sponsored  by  the  American  Committee  for  Spanish  Freedom,  relative  to  a 
"Break  relations  with  Spain  rally"  to  be  held  at  the  Slirine  Auditorium  in  Los 
Angeles,  November  16,  1945,  stated  that  a  number  of  Hollywood  personages 
would  participate  in  the  evening  event  with  the  script  for  the  skit  being  provided 
by  Alvah  Bessie.  Alvah  Bessie's  name  appears  on  the  letterhead  of  the  Ameri- 
can Committee  for  Spanish  Freedom  as  a  sponsor.  This  organization  was  part 
of  the  Conununist  campaign  in  behalf  of  Soviet  policy  in  the  Spanish  Civil  War. 

25.  On  December  16,  1945,  a  "welcome  home,  Joe"  dinner  was  given  as  a  "tribute 
to  America's  young  fighting  men  and  women  on  the  occasion  of  the  second  anni- 
versary of  American  Youth  for  Democracy."  This  organization  was  formerly 
known  as  the  Young  Communist  League.  This  information  appeared  on  a  copy 
of  the  program  of  the  dinner.  Alvah  Bessie's  name  appeared  on  the  program 
along  with  the  names  of  John  Howard  Lawson  and  Paul  Kobeson. 

26.  The  Chicago  Herald-Tribune  for  June  9,  1941,  reflects  that  Alvah  Bessie 
was  elected  a  member  of  the  national  executive  board  of  the  Fourth  American 
Writers  Congress. 

Sender  Garlin,  in  the  Daily  Worker  for  June  11,  1941,  in  commenting  on  the 
Fourth  American  Writers  Congress  stated  that :  "Alvah  Bessie,  veteran  of  the 
Spanish  War,  spoke  on  the  writers  and  the  struggle  of  fascism  in  Spain.  He  told 
not  only  of  the  men  who  fought  for  Spain  but  of  those  literary  mercenaries  who 
betrayed  Spain's  cause  and  the  cause  of  mankind  when  Spain  was  temporarily 
defeated     *     *     *." 

On  November  12,  1943,  the  forum  of  the  League  of  American  Writers  pi'esented 
the  subject  "This  Is  Treason,"  a  forum  on  Hitler's  secret  weapon.  The  proceeds 
of  this  forum  were  to  go  to  an  organization  known  as  Sleepy  Lagoon  Defense 
Committee,  an  afiiliate  of  the  International  Labor  Defense  cited  by  Attorney 
General  Biddle  as  the  "legal  arm  of  the  Communist  Party." 

At  this  forum  Alvah  Bessie  read  a  paper  by  Dr.  Harry  Hoijer,  reviewing  Allen 
Cha.se's  book  Falange.  Prior  to  the  reading  of  the  paper  Bessie  stated  that  the 
.Fascists  of  Germany  and  Italy  really  instigated  the  so-called  Spanish  Civil  War 
and  were  aided  by  the  United  States  through  its  nexitrality  laws  as  well  as  the 
appeasement  policy  of  Great  Britain  and  France.  He  said  the  appeasement  policy 
gave  the  Japs  time  to  prepai-e  and  also  permitted  them  to  buy  more  scrap  to 
wage  war  ultimately  against  the  Allies. 

In  1944  Alvah  Bessie  was  listed  as  being  on  the  national  board  of  the  League 
of  American  Writers. 

27.  The  magazine  New  Currents  in  its  December  1944  and  January  1945  issue 
lists  Alvah  Bessie  as  a  member  of  the  advisory  board.  This  magazine  is  a  publi- 
cation of  the  American  Committee  of -Jewish  Writers,  Artists,  and  Scientists,  Inc. 
The  writers  for  this  magazine  have  included  those  who  have  contributed  to  the 
Communist  and  Soviet  press. 

28.  The  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Artists,  Scientists,  and  Profes- 
sions, Inc.,  publishes  a  monthly  joiirnal  of  opinion,  the  Independent,  which  is 
sent  to  all  members  and  to  more  than  100  daily  and  weekly  newspapers  through- 
out the  country.  Alvah  Bessie  is  listed  as  one  of  the  contributing  editors  to  this 
publication.  This  organization  has  been  repudiated  by  Harold  L.  Ickes  and  other 
liberals  as  Communist-dominated. 

29.  The  Daily  Worker  for  September  22,  1946.  published  photographs  of  Alvah 
Bessie  and  others  who  were  to  he  connected  with  a  new  magazine.  Mainstream. 
Bessie  was  indicated  to  be  on  the  editorial  bonrd.  Mainstream  was  described 
as  a  Marxist  literary  magazine,  aiiuing  to  advance  a  people's  working-class 
literature  in  America.  It  was  stated  that  the  magazine  would  strive  "to  stimulate 
and  guide  Marxist  thinking  in  literature." 

A  brochure  advertising  this  magazine  states  "the  fundamental  character  of 
this  magazine  is  determined  by  its  allegiance  to  tiie  Marxist  science  of  history, 
culture,  and  human  progress.  *  *  *"  The  brochure  states:  "We  call  upon 
writei's  to  fight  anti-Communist  influences  in  writing  today,  we  fight  the  literary 
anti-Sovieteers  who  constitute  an  auxiliary  legion  of  the  war  makers." 

30.  The  Daily  Worker  for  April  13.  1940,  carried  an  article  captioned  "Phila- 
delphia anti-Dies  rally  to  hear  noted  authoi's."     The  article  states  that  noted 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  393 

authors  would  speak  at  a  big  mass  meoting  in  Town  Hall,  150  Broad  Street,  on 
the  following  night,  in  a  protest  against  the  Dies  committee  unconstitutional  raids 
on  the  seizure  of  material  from  Couimuuist  Party  and  IWO  oflices  there.  The 
speakers  included  Ruth  McKenney,  William  Blake,  Alvah  Bessie,  Mark  Blitz- 
stein,  Bruce  Minton,  and  others.  The  meeting  was  to  be  under  the  auspices  of 
the  I'eople's  Forum,  with  the  New  Masses  participating. 

Alvah  Bessie,  writer.  New  York,  N.  Y.,  appeared  on  a  list  captioned  "I  hereby 
join  in  signing  tlie  January  1043  "Message  to  the  House  of  Ilepresentatives' 
opposing  renewal  of  the  Dies  committee.  Copies  of  this  list  were  transmitted 
to  Members  of  Congress  by  the  National  Federation  of  Constitutional  Liberties, 
1123  Broadway,  room  907,  New  York,  N.  Y." 

31.  The  Daily  Worker  for  February  18,  1942,  carried  an  article  concerning 
the  individuals  interested  in  the  innnediate  release  of  Earl  Browder.  Alvah 
Bessie  is  listed  with  many  others  by  the  Citizens  Committee  as  having  communi- 
cated with  the  Chief  Executive  of  the  Nation  on  the  Browder  case,  calling  upon 
him  "to  correct  his  injustice  by  an  act  of  Executive  clemency." 

32.  I'age  3  of  the  Daily  People's  World  for  April  19,  1946,  carries  an  article 
entitled  "Forum  Tonight  To  Hear  Report  on  Peace  Meet."  It  was  stated  that 
a  report  on  the  Win-the-Peace  Conference,  by  William  Pomerance,  executive 
secretary.  Screen  Writers  Guild,  would  highlight  the  Hollywood  Forum  on  the 
following  night  at  the  Allan  Rudack  Studio,  7312  Beverly  Boulevard.  Waldo 
Salt  was  to  be  moderator  of  the  forum,  and  Alvah  Bessie  was  included  among 
the  speakers.  The  Win-the-Peace  Conference  is  the  most  recent  version  of  the 
American  I'eace  Mobilization,  which  picketed  the  White  House  during  the 
Stalin-Hitler  pact. 

The  Chairman.  Before  we  call  another  witness,  the  Chair  would 
like  to  say  that  we  have  had  four  very  prominent  writers  before  ns — • 
writers  who  have  worked  in  almost  every  field,  writers  who  have  writ- 
ten many  of  the  scripts  in  very  prominent  moving  pictures.  It  is  very 
evident  from  the  manner  in  which  these  writers  responded  to  the  ques- 
tions that  they  didn't  want  to  answer  the  questions. 

It  is  very  evident  from  the  material  presented  by  our  investigative 
staff  and  the  research  staff  that  these  four  men  have  extensive  Com- 
munist and  Communist  front  records.  Yet,  this  kind  of  people  are 
writing  scripts  in  the  moving-picture  industry. 

There  will  be  more  witnesses  to  come  who  will  probably  all  carry 
out  the  same  line.  The  Chair  would  like  to  point  out  that  this  is  one 
of  the  reasons  why  this  committee  is  investigating  communism  in  the 
moving-picture  industry,  and  it  is  just  definite  proof  that  there  is  a 
real  reason  for  the  investigation  before  these  hearings. 

So,  when  any  person — it  makes  no  difference  whether  he  is  in  the 
industry  or  out  of  the  industry — says  that  we  are  persecuting  these 
people,  says  that  we  are  making  a  witch  hunt,  says  that  we  are  looking 
into  something  we  have  no  business  to  look  into,  that  to  me  is  just 
plain  foolishness. 

I  don't  think  this  committee  has  ever  looked  into  anything  where 
we  have  found  more  evidence  of  Communist  activities  than  we  have 
found  in  Hollywood.  So  this  committee  is  going  to  continue  this 
probe — is  going  to  continue  the  hearings ;  we  are  going  to  do  every- 
thing we  possibly  can  to  spotlight  these  people  just  like  we  spotlighted 
Fritz  Knhn  or  Pelley  or  Gerhart  Eisler  or  Hanns  Eisler.  Josephson, 
Eugene  Dennis,  and  anyone  else  whom  we  find  has  a  Communist  rec- 
ord. It  will  be  beneficial  to  the  American  people  and  it  will  be  bene- 
ficial to  the  industry  itself,  because  you  are  the  people — you  persons 
high  up  in  the  industry  can  do  more  to  clean  your  own  house  than  can 
anybody  else,  but  a^ou  must  have  the  will,  and  we  hope  that  by  spot- 
lighting these  Communists  you  will  acquire  that  will. 

Put  on  the  next  witness,  Mr.  Stripling.     [Loud  applause.] 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 


394  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  McDowell.  Before  the  next  witness  goes  on,  I  would  like  to 
read  a  telegram  just  received  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Ac- 
tivities here  from  a  well-known  and  veteran  figure  in  Hollywood,  and 
particularly  Avell  known  to  the  American  people.  I  do  not  applaud 
the  language  used  here.    Nevertheless,  I  will  read  the  telegram : 

The  Un-American  AcTi\iTiEs  Committee, 

Washington,  D.  C: 
Congratulations  on  your  splendid  courage.     Comnuinist  rattlesnakes  are  bent 
on  inoculating  the  mind  of  our  American  youth.     Clean  out  the  rats.     You  are  not 
injuring  our  industry.    You  are  helping  to  keep  them  American.    Bless  you. 

Leo  Carrillo. 

The  Chairman.  The  Chair  would  also  like  to  make  this  statement: 
Because  of  the  failure  of  Mr.  Maltz  and  Mr.  Bessie  to  respond  to  ques- 
tions propounded  of  them,  this  subcoinmittee,  by  a  unanimous  vote, 
reconnnends  to  the  full  committee  that  Albert  Maltz  and  Alvah  Bessie 
be  cited  for  contempt. 

Next  witness. 

]\Ir.  Gaston.  Will  Mr.  Brewer  resume  the  stand,  please  ? 

Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Brewer  has  requested  the  privilege  of  placing 
into  the  record  many  statements  to  substantiate  some  of  the  remarks 
he  made  this  morning.  He  does  not  want  to  be  left  without  having 
that  placed  in  the  record.    Would  that  be  agreeable  to  you,  sir  ? 

The  Chairman.  Are  these  statements  all  pertinent  to  the  inquiry  ? 

TESTIMONY  OF  MR.  ROY  M.  BREWER— Resumed 

Mr.  Brewer.  Everything  that  I  want  to  put  in,  Mr.  Chairman,  is. 
What  I  would  like  to  say  is  this:  In  my  testimony  this  morning  I 
made  certain  statements  which  I  have  the  proof  to  back  up.  In  the  line 
of  questioning  as  it  was  developed,  in  order  to  answer  a  subsequent 
question,  I  was  required  to  deviate  from  entering  that  proof.  I  partic- 
ularly want  to  clear  up  a  couple  of  points  so  that  I  cannot  be  accused 
of  making  statements  that  cannot  be  substantiated. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Brewer,  if  you  will  submit  those  to  the  com- 
mittee investigators  and  they  pass  their  inspection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Brewer,  this  morning  in  your  testimony  you  men- 
tioned the  National  Labor  Relations  Board.  Do  you  have  any  evidence 
or  knowledge  of  any  communistic  influence  over  this  National  Labor 
Relations  Board? 

Mr.    Brewer.  There   was   considerable   evidence   on   that    in    the 


various 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute.  You  mean  in  regard  to  the  strikes 
which  you  said  were  Communist-inspired  out  there?  You  are  refer- 
ring to  just  that? 

Mr.  Gaston.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Brewer.  The  evidence  which  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman,  goes  to 
the  whole  effort  on  the  part  of  this  Communist  group,  including  the 
Kibre  group,  which  was  definitely  identified  as  being  Communist  in 
their  efforts  to  penetrate  and  control  the  studio  unions. 

The  first  evidence  of  this  came  at  the  time  when  an  election  was 
held  in  1939  as  the  result  of  a  petition  from  an  organization  known  as 
the  United  Studio  Technicians  Guild.  That  was  an  organization 
founded  and  built  around"  Jeff  Kibre.    Presumably  it  was  an  indepen- 


COMMUNISM    IN   MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY  395 

dent  organization,  but  the  records  which  I  read  this  morning  proved 
that  it  was  directed  both  by  the  State  organization  of  the  CIO  and 
the  Communist  Party. 

Now,  the  Hekl  examiner  in  charge  of  the  election  which  handled  the 
petition  which  this  organization  tiled  was  a  man  by  the  name  of  Wil- 
liam Pomerance.  He  was  the  official  representative  of  the  Government 
in  their  efforts  to  determine  the  representation  in  this  case.  William 
Pomerance  later  was  identified  as  an  active  member  in  pro-Communist 
labor  activities.  He  was  the  man  who  founded  and  organized  the 
Screen  Cartoonists'  Guild,  which  was  stated  by  Mr.  Kibre  as  having 
been  organized  "by  our  people." 

After  he  left  the  Screen  Cartoonists'  Guild  he  went  to  the  Screen 
Writers'  Guild  and  until  only  recently  served  as  the  executive  secretary 
of  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild. 

Another  num  that  was  emploved  by  the  National  Labor  Relations 
Board  at  the  time  of  the  1039  election  was  a  man  by  the  name  of  Mau- 
rice Howard.  Maurice  Howard  is  at  the  present  time  the  secretary  of 
the  Screen  Cartoonists'  Guild.  He  is  a  teacher  at  the  People's  Educa- 
tional Center  and  has  an  impressive  record  of  activities  in  various 
Communist  and  pro-Communist  activities.  In  addition  to  that,  he 
has  been  a  leader  in  the  activities  of  the  pro-Communist  group  in  the 
Central  Labor  Council  of  Los  Angeles  and  in  the  various  activities  of 
the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

He  was  a  member  of  the  board  of  strategy  of  the  Conference  of 
Studio  Unions  in  the  prosecution  of  the  strikes. 

There  is  another  person  by  the  name  of  Frances  Millington  who  was 
an  employee  of  the  National"  Labor  Relations  Board.  Miss  Millington 
is  now  an  officer  of  the  Screen  Analysts'  Guild  in  Hollywood. 

There  is  another  person  by  the  name  of  William  Esteman  who  until 
a  short  time  ago  was  the  attornev  for  the  National  Labor  Relations 
Board  in  the  Los  Angeles  office.  Mr.  Esteman  has  been,  and  as  far  as 
I  know  is  now,  the  attorney  for  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  and  is 
also  listed — and  it  was  testified  by  Mr.  Carlson — as  a  teacher  in  the 
People's  Educational  Center. 

The  presence  of  these  persons  in  official  capacities  on  the  National 
Labor  Relations  Board  had  let  us  to  believe,  and  I  think  rightly,  that 
in  many  cases  our  interests  were  prejudiced.  At  any  rate,  we  felt 
that  there  should  liave  been  no  election  in  1939.  * 

We  had  contracts.  There  was  no  necessity  for  it,  and  in  the  reports 
which  INIr.  Kibre  wrote  he  changed  his  entire  strategy  in  his  attempts 
to  capture  the  unions  as  a  result  of  the  ruling  which  the  National 
Labor  Relations  Board  made  in  giving  them  an  election  and  granting 
their  petition. 

Another  activity  which  leads  us  to  believe  there  was  Communist 
influence  in  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  in  Los  Angeles  was 
the  efforts  ^\  hich  were  made  by  the  Communists  to  capture  the  extras. 
The  extras  group  had  been  a  part  of  the  Screen  Actors"  Guild.  There 
was  some  dissatisfaction  among  extras.  Their  employment  is  of  such 
a  nature  that  it  is  not  very  steady,  and  so  agitation  started  within  the 
extras'  group  for  a  separate  organization. 

They  went  to  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board.  The  National 
Labor  Relations  Board  granted  them  an  election.  An  election  was 
held,  and  they  voted  to  pull  away  from  the  Screen  Actors'  Guild. 


396  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

A  part  of  the  campiiijin  which  they  carried  on  -was  to  the  effect  that 
if  they  did  vote  to  disafKliate  with  the  Screen  Actors'  Guild  they  would 
then  be  jiiven  a  chaiter  from  the  American  Fedeiation  of  Labor.  AVell, 
tlie  actors  took  a  pretty  strong  position  about  a  painters'  union  giving 
a  charter  to  the  extras,  and  they  did  not  get  a  charter  from  any  other 
A.  F.  of  L.  union,  with  the  result  that  the  National  Labor  Relations 
Board,  which  is  supposed  to  facilitate  the  processes  of  collective  bar- 
gaining, through  their  action  in  the  extras'  case,  actually  stopped  the 
processes  of  collective  bargaining  for  a  period  of  18  months  for  the 
extras,  because  it  was  not  until  after  a  second  election  had  been  held 
and  the  extras  then  voted  to  go  back  in  association  with  the  actors' 
group  that  they  got  a  contract  and  the  processes  of  collective  bargain- 
ing were  reestablished. 

Another  instance  which  happened  was  in  this  most  recent  strike. 
AVe  had  a  Communist  faction  in  one  of  our  important  locals  led  by 
a  man  by  the  name  of  Henschel.  I  believe  that  is  spelled  H-e-n- 
s-c-h-e-1.  This  man  attempted  to  lead  a  revolt  in  our  organization  at 
the  time  of  the  strike,  the  first  strike  in  1945. 

Incidentally,  there  is  a  very  interesting  history  of  Mr.  Henschel's 
activity  in  the  Communist  Party  contained  in  the  reports  which  Mr. 
Kibre  wrote  to  Hoy  Hudson  in  New  York. 

Mr.  Gastox.  Mr.  Brewer,  who  is  Roy  Hudson? 

Mr.  Brewer.  Roy  Hudson  is  the  trade-union  secretary  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  and  was  at  that  time  the  labor  editor  of  the  Daily  Worker. 

Mr.  Henschel  Avas  sent  by  the  Communist  Party  to  our  1938  conven- 
tion in  Cleveland,  Ohio,  for  the  purpose  of  attempting  to  push  through 
a  pro-Communist  resolution.     He  made  such  a  bad  job  of  it — ■ — 

Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Brewer,  may  I  interrupt  you  a  minute,  please? 
For  the  purpose  of  the  record,  Mr.  Roy  Hudson  is  a  member  of  the 
National  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party  Trade  Union,  secretary 
of  the  Central  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party,  and,  as  you  said, 
labor  editor  of  the  Daily  Worker.  That  is  for  the  purpose  of  identify- 
ing Mr.  Hudson. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Further  for  the  purpose  of  identifying  Roy  Hud- 
son, he  was  unhorsed  from  considerable  of  those  jobs  and  is  now 
working  The  Vineyard  in  Pittsburgh,  Pa. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  McDo*VELL.  Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Mr.  Henschel  was  sent,  as  I  said,  to  our  1938  conven- 
tion for  the  purpose  of  shoving-  through  or  attempting  to  shove 
through  a  resolution  which  the  party  wanted  to  pass.  He  made  such 
a  bad  job  of  it  that  the  then  acting  secretary  of  the  Communist  Party 
in  Ohio,  Mr.  Max  Weiss,  wrote  a  complaint  to  Mr.  Roy  Hudson  com- 
plaining about  the  activities  of  Mr.  Henschel  and  complaining  against 
the  party  officials  in  California  who  sent  him  to  the  convention  so 
inadequately  prepared  to  carry  out  his  mission,  with  the  result  that 
the  complaint  was  handed  back  and  Mr,  Kibre  was  instructed  to  in- 
vestigate whether  or  not  Mr.  Henschel  was  a  loyal  comrade  and  a 
loyal  party  member,  or  whether  he  had  just  failed  in  his  obligation. 
The  report  which  Mr.  Kibre  printed  in  that  respect  is  contained  in 
these  proceedings,  which  I  would  be  glad  to  submit  to  the  committee 
for  the  record. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  397 

Mr.  Kibre  stated  in  this  report  that  at  that  time,  whicli  was  1939, 
or  thereabouts,  Mr.  Heiischel  liad  been  a  party  member  for  approxi- 
mately o  years'  standing,  a  loyal  party  member,  as  Mr.  Kibre  described 
him. 

Now  this  man  Henschel  showed  up,  as  I  said,  in  1945,  as  the  leader 
of  a  faction  which  was  trying  to  embarrass  our  international  union  in 
its  efforts  to  ward  off  this  attempt  of  the  conference  of  studio  unions 
to  capture  our  organization  in  Hollywood. 

He  organized  a  rank-and-file  conunittee  in  almost  exactly  the  same 
manner  as  was  demonstrated  by  Mr.  Kibre  in  his  description  of  their 
efforts  in  1939,  and  as  a  result  of  that  he  was  discharged  from  his 
employment  by  Warner  Bros,  and  he  was  expelled  from  the  union, 
from  our  international  union. 

He  went  down  to  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  and  filed  a 
complaint.  The  complaint  was  investigated  by  a  man  by  the  name  of 
Cameron.  Now,  we  felt  that  we  knew  the  law  fairly  well  and  we  did 
not  feel  that  Mr.  Henschel  had  any  real  case  at  all.  He  had  violated 
the  rules  of  our  union  and  we  had  expelled  him  and  he  was  eligible  to 
expulsion  by  any  rule  of  the  game. 

I  might  say  that  as  a  result  of  the  Communist  tactics  our  efforts  to 
conduct  a  trial  were  impeded  to  the  extent  that  in  order  to  insure  the 
trial  would  be  fair  and  to  be  sure  the  record  would  be  clear,  we  spent 
some  $5,000  for  the  transcript  alone  in  the  trial  which  we  held. 
.  Mr.  Gaston.  Mr.  Brewer,  were  any  of  your  local  unions  ever  taken 
over  by  the  Communists  '^. 

Mr.  Brewer.  Yes ;  they  were,  but  that  is  another  story  and  if  I  might 
be  permitted  to  continue  this  one  I  think  it  is  important. 

The  Chairman.  I  want  to  say,  Mr.  Brewer,  we  would  like  to  con- 
tinue with  you  on  the  stand  for  some  time  but  we  have  a  heavy  schedule 
of  witnesses.  We  are  getting  further  behind  all  the  time.  Something 
that  has  arisen  that  will  compel  us  to  recess  today  at  4  o'clock  so  we 
haven't  got  much  more  time. 

Mr.  Brewer,  I  will  complete  this  very  briefly  then.  To  follow 
through  briefly  and  conclude  this  Henschel  matter,  the  matter  was 
heard  by  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  and  a  decision  was 
handed  down.  We  felt  that  the  examiner  which  was  sent  out  seemed 
to  be  fair  but  the  decision  which  he  rendered  was  such  a  distortion  of 
the  law  that  we  were  at  a  loss  to  understand  it. 

After  the  decision  was  handed  down  we  began  to  investigate  the 
activities  of  the  examiner  that  heard  the  case.  The  examiner's  name 
was  a  Mr.  ]\Iortimer  Reamer.  We  found  much  to  our  surprise  that 
Mr.  IMortimer  Reamer 

The  Chairman.  May  we  have  order,  please  ?  I  would  like  to  sug- 
gest to  our  visitors  if  they  can  remain  for  a  few  more  minutes  it  will 
hel])  to  maintain  order.    Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Brewer.  This  Mortimer  Reamer  had  been  the  secretarv  of  the 
National  Lawyers'  Guild,  an  organization  which  had  been  described 
as  a  Communist  front  for  lawyers  and  an  organization  in  which  Mr. 
Robert  W.  Kenny  was  the  national  chairman,  and  at  that  time,  I 
might  say.  Mr.  Robert  W.  Kenny  had  been  active  in  organizations 
that  were  openly  opposing  us  and  aiding  our  enemies  in  this  fight. 


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398  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

So,  we  felt,  we  c-ould  not  hel])  but  feel  after  reviewing  the  entire 
rase  that  thei-e  had  been  a  number  of  instances  where  the  Communist 
influences  had  influenced  the  Board  and  that  in  this  particular  case 
there  was  an  association  of  individuals,  a  known  Communist  faction, 
a  man  who  had  been  identified  with  certain  Comnumist  activities  had 
written  a  decison  whch  we  felt  was  a  serious  prejudice  to  the  case  of 
our  union. 

Now,  in  response  to  the  question  as  to  whether  or  not  any  of  our 
unions  have  been  taken  over,  there  were  two  unions  wdiich  we  felt — 
two  of  our  own  unions  which  we  felt  came  into  the  Communist  orbit 
by  reason  of  their  adhe»"ence  to  Communist  Party  programs  and  by 
reason  of  their  expressed  sympathy  with  the  enemies  of  our  organiza- 
tion in  this  particular  controversy. 

There  was  one,  particularly,  which  was  known  as  the  Film  Tech- 
nicians, a  very  important  group.  In  our  judgment  this  union  was 
captured  in  1940.  We  watched  their  activities.  They  adhered  to  the 
Commimist  Party  line  and,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  they  were  one  of  the 
organizations  that  helped  to  found  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

At  the  time  when  the  studio  unions  got  ready,  however,  to  engage  in 
open  combat  with  the  lATSE  this  union  withdrew  from  the  Confer- 
ence of  Studio  Unions  and  in  this  last  strike  at  a  very  critical  time  in 
the  activities  of  the  strike,  this  union  revolted  and  officially  joined  the 
strike  with  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

As  a  result  of  that  action,  in  accordance  with  the  authority  in  our 
constitution,  the  international  declared  an  emergencj'  and  took  over 
the  afl^airs  of  that  local  union. 

The  evidence  which  we  have  been  able  to  get  convinces  us  positively 
that  union  was  in  the  hands  of  leaders  who  were  adherents  to  the  Com- 
munist Party  program  from  1940  on  until  their  revolt  in  1947. 

There  is  one  statement  in  the  record  which  I  made  in  the  record  this 
morning,  and  that  was  in  respect  to  my  testimony  about  a  libel  suit.  I 
testified  to  that  with  respect  to  the  documents  which  I  presented.  I 
wanted  the  committee  to  know  that  when  the  proof  of  this  membership 
activity  was  established  the  libel  suit  has  never  been  pressed.  The  libel 
suit  was  never  brought  to  trial.  I  didn't  want  the  record  to  stand 
without  that  in  there. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Is  it  still  pending? 

Mr.  X^REWER.  It  is  still  laying  there  as  it  was  almost  3  years  ago 
when  it  was  filed. 

Mr.  McDoAVELL.  You  called  somebody  a  Communist  and  they  sued 
for  how  much  ? 

Mr.  Brewer.  $150,000. 

Mr.  McDowell.  You  did  better  than  I  did,  I  got  $100,000. 

Mr.  Brew^er.  We  are  being  sued  for  so  many 

The  Chairman.  I  don't  think  that  is  very  pertinent. 

Mr.  Gaston.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell? 

INIr.  M(;DowELL.  I  have  no  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail? 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling? 

Mr.  Stripling.  No  questions. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  399 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Brewer.  We  will  call 
on  you,  probably,  later  on  so  if  you  will  just  stand  by  so  that  you  can 
complete  your  testimony  at  a  later  date,  we  will  appreciate  it.  Mr. 
Stripliufii;  will  advise  you.*" 

Mr,  Brewer.  Thank  you  very  nuich. 

(Witness  excused.) 

The  Chairman.  Adjourned  until  10 :  30  tomorrow  morning. 

(Thereupon,  at  4  p.  m.,  the  conmiittee  adjourned  until  10  a.  m.,  the 
followin<2;  day,  Wednesday,  October  29,  1947.) 

"'  See  appendix,  pp.  541—545,  for  letter  from  Mr.  Roy  M.  Brewer,  as  exhibit  76. 


HEAEINGS  REGARDING  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTRA- 
TION OF  THE  MOTION-PICTURE  INDUSTRY 


WEDNESDAY,   OCTOBER   29,    1947 

House  of  Kepresentatives, 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 

Washington^  D.  C. 

The  committee  met  at  10 :  30  a.  m.,  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  (chair- 
man) presiding. 

The  Chairman.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order. 

The  record  will  show  that  a  subcommittee  is  sitting,  with  Mr.  Mc- 
Dowell, Mr.  Vail,  and  Mr.  Thomas  present. 

Staff  members  present :  Mr.  Robert  E.  Stripling,  chief  investigator ; 
Messrs.  Louis  J.  Russell,  H.  A.  Smith,  Robert  B.  Gaston,  investiga- 
tors; and  Mr.  Benjamin  Mandel,  director  of  research. 

Now,  the  Chair  at  this  point  would  like  to  make  a  brief  recapitula- 
tion with  reference  to  the  committee's  investigation  of  Communist  in- 
fluences in  the  motion-picture  industry. 

Responding  to  the  demand  of  the  people,  the  present  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  made  a  preliminary  investigation  which  pro- 
duced ample  evidence  that  a  full-scale  investigation  was  in  order  of 
the  extent  of  Communist  infiltration  in  Hollywood. 

This  committee  has  utilized  the  services  of  trained  investigators,  all 
former  FBI  agents,  to  assemble  this  evidence  in  this  manner. 

The  committee's  authority  to  conduct  such  an  investigation,  under 
authority  of  Public  Law  601,  is  crystal  clear. 

We  have  not  violated  and  we  are  not  violating  the  rights  of  any 
American  citizen,  not  even  the  rights  of  the  Communists  whose  first 
allegiance  is  to  a  foreign  government. 

The  committee  is  well  aware  that  powerful  influences  have  sought 
in  every  manner  to  divert  this  committee  from  its  main  course  of 
inquiry. 

I  am  proud  to  say  that  this  committee  has  not  been  swayed,  intimi- 
dated, or  influenced  by  either  Hollywood  glamor,  pressure  groups, 
threats,  ridicule,  or  high-pressure  tactics  on  the  part  of  high-paid 
puppets  and  apologists  for  certain  elements  of  the  motion-picture 
industry. 

The  people  are  going  to  get  the  facts,  just  as  I  announced  on  the 
opening  day. 

This  committee  has  now  been  sitting  for  7  days.  Last  week  we  had 
before  us  20  witnesses,  all  of  wliom  had  been  subpenaed,  all  of  whom 
were  tops  in  their  profession,  and  all  from  Hollywood.  They  are 
among  our  most  prominent  producers,  directors,  writers,  and  actors. 
Their  names  stand  high,  not  only  in  Hollywood,  but  throughout  the 
world,  as  great  entertainers  and  producers  of  entertainment.     They 

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402  COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

certainly  had  more  at  stake  in  Hollywood  than  some  of  the  actors  who 
have  descended  upon  Washington,  with  stars  and  starlets  to  bowl  over 
a  coniniittee  of  tlie  Congress  of  the  United  States  who  dared  to  put 
the  spotlight  on  the  Communist  foreign  agents  operating  within  their 
very  industry. 

These  prominent  Americans  who  appeared  the  first  w^eek,  all  from 
the  industry,  are  the  ones  who  leveled  the  charges;  it  wasn't  the 
committee. 

And  now,  in  the  second  week,  when  those  who  have  been  accused 
publicly,  openly,  of  being  Communists  and  of  attempting  to  utilize 
the  motion  picture  for  the  furtherance  of  a  ruthless  dictatorship,  have 
they  come  before  this  committee  and  answered  these  charges?  No. 
They  have  come  as  Communists  always  do  and  scream,  "Bill  of 
Rights,"  "Constitution,"  and  vilify  those  who  would  seek  to  expose 
them. 

There  can  be  no  doubt  in  anyone's  mind  who  has  attended  these 
meetings  that  Mr.  Lawson,  Mr.  Trumbo,  Mr.  Bessie,  and  Mr,  Maltz 
are  Communists.  They  have  been  Communists  for  a  long  while  and 
they  will  continue  to  be  Communists,  serving  not  the  best  interests 
of  the  United  States,  but  the  best  interests  of  a  foreign  government. 

Oh,  yes,  the  paid  apologists  for  these  people  have  employed  full- 
page  ads  in  an  effort  to  distort  and  to  divert  the  beam  of  exposure 
which  they  saw  was  descending  upon  them  from  this  committee.  This 
is  to  state  to  the  American  people  and  to  everyone  concerned  that  this 
beam  is  not  going  to  be  turned  off  or  shut  off  until  all  the  Communists 
in  Hollywood  are  exposed. 

Mr.  Stripling,  call  the  next  witness.  .^ 

Mr.  Striplino.  Samuel  Ornitz. 

The  Chairman.  Who? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Samuel  Ornitz. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Ornitz. 

Mr.  Ornitz,  raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is 
the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

TESTIMONY  OP  SAMUEL  ORNITZ 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Ornitz,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address  ? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  Samuel  Ornitz,  1044  South  Redondo  Boulevard,  Los 
Angeles. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Ornitz? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  New  York  City,  November  15, 1890. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  am  a  writer. 

I  wish  the  opportunity  to  make  a  statement 

The  Chairman.  Now,  just  be  identified,  please. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  sufficient  identification,  Mr.  Chairman. 

At  this  point,  if  he  has  a  statement — — 

The  Chairman.  We  would  like  to  see  the  statement. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  403 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  a  copy  ? 

Mr.  Crum.  Yes. 

Tlie  Chairman.  We  want  to  see  the  statement,  to  see  if  it  is  pertinent 
to  the  inquiry,  and  also  whether  it  answers  the  charges  that  have  been 
leveled  against  you. 

(Statement  handed  to  the  chairman.) 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  wouldn't  have  any  part  of  it . 

The  Chairman.  ]Mr.  Ornitz,  this  statement  is  clearly  out  of  order. 
It  is  not  at  all  pertinent.  It  is  just  another  case  of  vilification,  and  the 
statement  will  not  be  read  by  you. 

Mr.  Orxitz.  I  beg  to  differ  with  the  chairman 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  Mr. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  This  statement  is  particularly  pertinent 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Air.  Ornitz.  In  that  I  am  accused 


The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Just  a  minute- 
Mr.  Ornitz.  Here 

The  Chairman.  Ask  another  question 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  beg  your  pardon- 


The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Ask  another  question • 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Ornitz- 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  accuse  the  members  of  this  committee  of  being 

The  Chairman  ( pounding  gavel) .  You  will  not  accuse  anybody 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  do  accuse  them 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Step  aside  from  the  witness 
stand 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Ornitz,  you  are  here  before  this  committee  in  response  to  a 
subpena;  are  you  not?*^* 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  A  subpena  which  was  served  upon  you  on  September 
25;  is  that  covi'ect? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  Correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  are  also  here  in  response  to  a  telegram  which 
was  sent  to  you  by  the  chairman  on  October  11;  is  that  correct?  ®* 

Mr.  Ornitz.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  were  snbpenaed  here  for  the  purpose  of  sub- 
mitting yourself  to  questioning  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  am. 

ISfr.  Stoipling.  Certain  queetions  will  be  directed  to  you.  You  are 
expected  to  answer  those  questicwis. 

Air.  Ornitz.  I  am  prepared  to  answer  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  wish  to  reply  to  that  question  by  saying  that  this 
involves  a  serious  question  of  conscience  for  me. 

The  Chairman.  Conscience? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  Conscience,  sir,  conscience. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  am  replying  to  that  question  to  the  best  of  my  ability 
and  in  spite  of  the  interrnptions. 


*"  See  appendix,  p.  .545,  for  exhibit  77. 
^  See  appendix,  p.  545,  for  exhibit  88. 


404  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  McDowell.  Well,  are  you  a  member  ?     That  is  the  thing. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  If  I  may  reply  to  it  in  less  detail  than  our  chairman 
did  this  morning,  in  practicing  intimidation,  as  he  has  practiced  it 
continually  during  this  hearing 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  this  has  nothing  to  do  with  the  ques- 
tion— the  answer  the  witness  has  given. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  have  tried  to  answer  this  question  several  times  now. 
I  will  make  another  attempt. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  is  a  very  simple  question,  Mr.  Ornitz.  Are  you 
or  are  you  not  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  The  question  of  conscience  and  constitutional  rights 
are  not  simple  matters  to  me. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  has  nothing  to  do  with  conscience  or  constitutional 
rights,  Mr.  Ornitz. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  If  you  will  let  me  answer  your  question,  I  will  establish 
that. 

Kindly  let  me  answer  the  question.  I  am  asking  this  as  a  citizen 
and  taxpayer  of  representatives  of  my  Government,  to  let  me  answer 
the  question  conscientiously.  I  say  you  do  raise  a  serious  question 
of  conscience  for  me  when  you  ask  me  to  act  in  concert  with  you  to 
override  the  Constitution. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman 

Mr.  Ornitz.  Wait  a  minute.     Let  me  answer  the  question 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  minute. 

The  Chairman,  Ask  the  next  question. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Ask  the  next  question. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  You  are  asking  me  to  violate  a  constitutional  guaranty. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  does  not  involve  a  constitutional  guaranty. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  It  does. 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel.)  Mr.  Stripling,  ask  the  next  ques- 
tion. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  want  to  answer  this  question.  It  is  against  the 
Constitution 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel) .  Ask  the  next  question. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  refused  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  have  not  refused.  I  have  not  been  allowed  to  finish 
my  answer.  It  is  against  the  Constitution  to  ask  me  to  reveal — not 
to  reveal,  but  to  state,  to  violate  the  sanctity  of  association. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Ask  the  next  question. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Ornitz,  you  stated  that  you  were  a  writer.  The 
Screen  Writers  Guild  is  a  recognized  union  or  guild  within  the  motion- 
picture  industry.  Certainly  there  could  be  nothing  compromising  by 
answering  whether  or  not  you  are  a  member  of  that  guild.  You  are 
not  ashamed  of  being  a  member  of  the  guild ;  are  you  ? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  have  wanted  to  answer  the  question,  in  my  way,  ami 
not  your  way. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.  I  am  quite  aware  of  that — that  you  don't  want 
to  answer  it. 

Now,  Mr.  Ornitz,  I  will  ask  you  this  question 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  do  want  to  answer 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  now,  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States  ? 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  405 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  wish  to  state  to  you  that  my  political  affiliations,  like 
my  religious  affiliation,  is  a  matter  fully  guaranteed  by  the  Constitu- 
tion. I  can  belong  to  any  party  that  I  see  fit  to  join,  and  you  have 
no  right  to  inquire  into 

Mr.  Stiiiplixg.  Even  though  that  party  may  be  affiliated  with  a  for- 
eign government  and  directed  by  a  foreign  government '( 

Mr.  Ornitz.  That  is  a  loaded  question,  and  I  will  not  fall  for  it. 

The  Chairman  ( pounding  gavel ) .   All  right ;  the  witness 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  have  replied  to  that.  You  have  no  right  to  ask  me 
that  question. 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel) .  The  witness  is  through. 

Mr.  Ornitz.  I  wish 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Stand  aside. 

INIr.  Ornitz.  I  wish  to  repeat 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Stand  away. 

The  next  witness.     Go  ahead.     All  right ;  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Russell,  take  the  stand. 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  RUSSELL 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Russell  has  previously  been 
sworn  in  this  hearing.  He  has  also  been  identified  previously  as  an 
investigator  for  the  Committee  on  Un-American  xVctivities. 

Mr.  Russell  was  with  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  10  years 
as  an  agent. 

Mr.  Russell,  were  you  detailed  to  make  an  investigation  to  determine 
whether  or  not  Samuel  Ornitz  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
at  any  time? 

jNIr.  Russell.  I  was. 

JNIr.  Stripling.  Will  you  give  the  committee  the  results  of  your 
investigation  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  During  the  course  of  my  investigation  I  obtained  in- 
formation regarding  the  Communist  Party  registration  card  which 
was  made  out  in  tlie  name  of  Sam  O.  According  to  a  code  which  I 
obtained  in  connection  with  this  registration  card,  the  name  Sam  O. 
is  the  Communist  Party  registration  of  Samuel  Ornitz.  This  regis- 
tration card,  a  photostatic  copy  of  which  I  have  before  me,  bears 
the  number  47181.  It  contains  a  notation :  "1944,  Card  No.  41826." 
The  address  of  "Sam  O.''  is  given  as  1044  South  Redondo;  city,  Los 
Angeles;  county,  Los  Angeles;  State,  California.  This  card  con- 
tains a  notation :  "New  card  issued  on  December  2,  1944."  The  de- 
scription of  Sam  Ornitz  as  given  on  this  card  is  as  follows :  "Male. 
Occupation,  writer.  Industry,  motion  picture."  The  question  is  then 
asked :  "Member  of  CIO,  AFL,  independent  union,  or  no  union." 
"Independent  union"  is  checked.  Another  question  is  asked :  "Is 
member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?"     "Yes"  is  checked.®^ 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  all,  JMr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  here  a  memorandum  prepared  by  the  in- 
vestigating and  research  staff  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  regarding  the  Communist  association  and  affiliation  of  Sam- 
uel  Ornitz.     We  have  listed  here  30  affiliations,  contained  on  7  pages. 


*  See  appendix,  p.  545,  for  exhibit  79. 


406  COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Ornitz  is  the  iuitlior  of  over  20  pictures  made  b}'  various  studios 
in  Hollywood. 

What  is  the  pleasure  of  the  committee  regarding  the  reading  of 
this  information  on  Samuel  Ornitz? 

The  Chairman.  Start  reading,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  ask  Mr.  Gaston  to  read  this,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Gaston  (reading)  : 

According  to  the  Motion  Picture  Almanac  and  other  authoritative  sources, 
Samuel  Ornitz  has  been  connected  with  the  motion-picture  industry  since  1930, 
as  a  screen  writer.     Among  the  pictures  he  wrote  are  the  following : 

May  we  skip  the  list  of  pictures,  sir  ? 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

(The  films  referred  to  are  as  follows :) 

The  Richest  Man  in  the  World  (M-G-:\I),  1930;  Sins  of  tJie  Children  (M-G-M), 
1930;  Men  of  America  (KKO),  1932;  Secrets  of  the  French  Police  (KKO),  1932; 
Hell's  Highway  (RKO),  1932;  Imitation  of  Life  (Universal),  1934;  One  Man's 
Journey  (RKO),  1933;  The  Man  Wlio  Reclaimed  His  Head  (Universal),  1934; 
One  Exciting  Adventure  (Universal),  1934;  Three  Kids  and  a  Queen  (Universal), 
19a5  :  Mark  of  the  Vampire  (:\I-G-M),  1935;  Follow  Your  Heart  (Republic),  1936; 
Fatal  Lady  (Paramount),  1936;  A  Doctor's  Diary  (Paramount).  1937;  Two 
Wise  Maids  (Repulilic),  1937;  Portia  on  Trial  (Republic),  1937;  The  Hit  Parade 
(Repulilic),  1937;  King  of  the  Newsboys  (Republic),  1938;  Army  Girl  (Repub- 
lic), 1938;  Little  Orphan  Annie  (Paramount),  1938. 

Mr.  Gaston  (reading)  : 

The  files,  records,  and  publications  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
contain  the  following  information  concerning  the  Communist-front  affiliations 
of  Samuel  Ornitz : 

1.  There  is  no  evidence  of  any  open  admission  of  Communist  Party  member- 
ship by  Samuel  Ornitz.  However,  Rena  M.  Vala,  a  former  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party,  has  cited  Samuel  Ornitz  as  a  fellow  member  in  her  affidavit 
dated  November  23,  1942,  according  to  the  1943  report  of  the  California  Joint 
Fact  Finding  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities.  Miss  Vale  said  that  in 
1935  "Samuel  Ornitz  identified  himself  to  me  as  a  Communist  Party  member 
and  discussed  at  considerable  length  the  intentions  of  tlie  Communist  Party  in 
Hollywood  and  especially  in  relation  to  the  motion-picture  industry"  (p.  123). 

Testimony  of  Ivan  Francis  Cox,  former  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  be- 
fore the  California  Superior  Court  on  December  8,  1937,  reflects  also  that  Samuel 
Ornitz  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party.  The  California  Fact-Finding 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  has  listed  Samuel  Ornitz  as  a  financial 
contrilmtor  to  the  Communist  Party  as  of  August  15  and  September  11,  1940, 
according  to  testimony  received  in  that  committee.  Testimony  presented  by 
George  Oliver  Bertholon,  former  members  of  the  Communist  Party  and  Young 
Communist  League 

The  Chairman.  We  will  suspend  there  for  just  a  second.  Without 
objection,  we  will  suspend  with  the  further  reading  of  the  document. 
It  Avill  be  placed  in  full  in  the  record  at  this  point  as  though  read 
and  will  also  be  made  public. 

(The  remainder  of  the  document  referred  to  is  as  follows :) 

Testimony  presented  by  George  Oliver  Bertholon,  former  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  and  Young  Communist  League  before  an  executive  session  of  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  (vol.  3,  p.  1161,  executive  hear- 
ings) reflects  that  Mrs.  Sanuiel  (Sadie)  Ornitz  was  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party  and  that  her  son,  Donald  Raymond  Ornitz,  was  a  member  of  the  Young 
Comnuinist  League. 

According  to  Communist  standards,  party  members  are  not  supposed  to  have 
even  personal  relations  with  those  who  are  hostile  to  the  party. 

The  Daily  Worker  of  Septendier  14,  1932,  page  1,  listed  Samuel  Ornitz  as  a 
signer  of  A  Call  for  Support  of  the  Comnmnist  Party  Candidates  for  President 
and  Vice  President,  William  Z.  Foster  and  James  W.  Ford. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  407 

In  a  pamphlet  entitled  "Culture  and  the  Crisis,"  on  page  32,  Samuel  Ornitz 
is  again  listed  as  a  member  of  the  League  of  Professional  Groups  for  Foster  and 
Ford.  In  the  Presidential  campaign  of  1936,  iin  official  letterhead  of  the  Com- 
mittee of  Professional  Groups  for  Browder  and  Ford,  dated  September  24.  1936, 
carries  the  name  of  Samuel  Ornitz  as  a  member.  Earl  Browder  was  at  that 
time  Connnunist  candidate  for  President  and  .James  Ford  was  the  Communist 
candidate  for  Vice  President.  The  Daily  Worker  on  March  5,  1941,  page  2, 
carried  a  statement  directed  to  President  Roosevelt  in  defense  of  the  Communist 
Party.    Samuel  Ornitz  is  shown  as  a  signer  of  this  statement. 

2.  Leo  Gallagher  has  been  a  candidate  for  Secretary  of  State  and  other  offices 
on  the  Communist  Party  ticket  in  Californa.  Samuel  Ornitz  is  shown  as  an 
active  partlcii)ant  in  a  dinner  in  behalf  of  Leo  Gallagher,  according  to  the 
People's  AVorld  of  June  4,  1941.  This  was  during  the  period  of  the  Stalin-Hitler 
Pact. 

3.  The  Daily  Worker  of  June  25,  193G,  page  2,  lists  Tom  Mooney  as  a  member 
of  the  honorary  presidium  of  the  Communist  Party.  His  case  was  the  center  of 
world-wide  Communist  agitation.  The  Daily  Worker  of  March  23,  19.33,  lists 
Samuel  Ornitz  as  a  speaker  at  a  meeting  in  behalf  of  Tom  Mooney  held  in  San 
Francisco.  The  testimony  presented  in  a  California  court  on  October  3,  1940, 
reflects  that  Mr.  Ornitz  wrote  the  dramatic  .skit  for  this  case. 

4.  The  People's  World  for  April  3,  194.5,  contained  an  article  headed  "Memorial 
started  for  Eva  Shafran — Education  Foundation  will  serve  Los  Angeles  labor, 
progressives."  The  article  stated  that  "Plans  for  the  organization  of  an  Eva 
Shafran  Educational  Foundation  as  the  best  means  of  honoring  Eva  Shafran  and 
(•arrying  on  the  work  of  progre.ssive  education  to  which  she  devoted  her  life 
were  made  public  here  today.  Samuel  Ornitz,  noted  writer  and  lecturer,  is 
chairman  of  the  foundation.  Eva  Shafran  was  a  well-known  member  of  the 
Communist  Party. 

5.  The  People's  Daily  World  is  the  official  west-coast  organ  of  the  Communist 
Party.  In  its  i.ssue  of  July  9,  1943,  Mr.  Ornitz  is  listed  as  one  who  "enthusias- 
tically sponsored  and  endorsed  a  call  for  a  fund  drive,"  in  behalf  of  this  paper. 
This  Communist  paper  organized  what  was  known  as  the  Hollywood  Forum, 
held  at  the  Embassy  Auditorium  during  the  week  of  April  2,  1946,  according  to 
People's  World,  March  26,  1946,  Ornitz  was  a  speaker  of  this  forum. 

6.  The  Workers  Bookshops  are  part  of  a  chain  of  official  Communist  book  shops 
scattered  all  over  the  country.  According  to  the  Daily  Worker  of  August  28, 
1934,  Mr.  Omitz'  works  have  been  on  sale  at  the  Workers  Bookshops  in  San 
Francisco.  It  should  be  noted,  at  this  point,  that  Communist  book  shops  do  not 
promote  hostile  literature.  At  this  time,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  signer  of  a  protest  to 
the  Governor  of  California  and  the  mayor  of  San  Francisco,  in  defense  of  the 
Workers  Bookshops,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker  for  August  28,  1934,  page  5. 

7.  The  American  League  for  Peace  and  Democracy  was  formed  by  the  Com- 
munist Party  prior  to  the  period  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  Pact.  According  to  former 
Attorney  General  Biddle,  this  organization  was  "established  in  the  United  States 
in  an  effort  to  create  public  sentiment  in  behalf  of  a  foreign  i^olicy  adapted  to  the 
interest  of  the  Soviet  Union"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942).  At 
that  time  this  policy  called  for  the  support  of  the  democracies  against  the  Fascist 
aggre.ssors  in  line  with  current  Communist  policies.  This  organization  was  also 
cited  as  a  Conmiunist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
on  January  3,  1940,  June  2.">,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.  A  letterhead  dated 
January  fJ-S,  1939,  of  the  American  Congress  for  Peace  and  Democracy  organized 
by  the  American  League  for  Peace  and  Democracy,  shows  Mr.  Onitz  as  an 
endorser. 

Mr.  Ornitz  was  also  a  .speaker  for  the  Los  Angeles  branch  of  this  organization 
at  a  meeting  held  on  September  28,  1938,  at  the  Los  Angeles  Trinity  Auditorium. 
According  to  the  People's  World  of  July  8,  1938,  page  1,  he  was  scheduled  to 
speak  at  another  Los  Angeles  meeting  of  this  organization  in  behalf  of  Spanish 
refugees.  The  People's  World  of  September  27,  1938,  also  lists  him  as  a  speaker 
for  the  American  League  for  Peace  and  Democracy  in  Los  Angeles. 

8.  The  American  League  for  Peace  and  Democracy  was  succeeded  by  the 
American  Peace  Mobilization,  after  tlie  signing  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  pact.  Ac- 
cording to  former  Attorney  General  Biddle,  thi.s  organization  was  engaged  in 
"picketing  the  White  House,  which  began  in  April  1941.  in  protest  against  lend- 
lease  and  the  entire  national-defense  program.  This  picket  line  was  suddenly 
called  off  on  the  afternoon  of  June  21.  1941,  when  Hitler  was  opening  his  attack 
on  the  Soviet  Union"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942). 


408  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

This  organization  has  also  been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  March  29,  1944.  According  to  the  Daily 
Worker  of  April  24,  1941,  page  7,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  leader  of  this  organization. 
The  American  Peace  Mobilization  launclied  wliat  it  called  the  American  Peace 
Crusade.  According  to  the  New  Masses  of  August  6,  1940,  page  23,  Mr.  Ornitz 
was  the  head  of  a  Speakers'  School  of  the  Hollywood  Peace  Forum,  in  connec- 
tion with  this  crusade.  Again  the  People's  World  of  April  19,  1940,  lists  Mr. 
Ornitz  as  a  speaker  at  the  Hollywood  Peace  Forum.  This  meeting  was  sponsored 
by  the  Hollywood  League  for  Democratic  Action,  under  the  title  "Can  Our  Ballots 
Stop  Bullets?"  He  is  also  listed  by  the  People's  World  of  July  3,  1940,  as  a 
speaker  at  the  Hollywood  Peace  Forum  with  Herbert  Biberman  at  the  Embassy 
Auditorium.  Both  Biberman  and  Ornitz  were  leading  members  of  the  American 
Peace  Mobilization.  On  June  8,  1940,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  speaker  of  a  so-called 
peace  assembly,  held  on  the  steps  of  the  Los  Angeles  City  Hall,  iinder  the 
auspices  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  and  the  American  Peace  Crusade. 
Mr.  Ornitz  also  spoke  at  the  Hollywood  Peace  Forum,  held  at  the  First  Unitarian 
Church  at  Los  Angeles  on  May  31, 1940. 

He  was  also  a  speaker  and  a  committee  member  of  the  American  Peace  Crusade 
meeting  held  at  Los  Angeles  at  the  Embassy  Auditorium,  on  June  21,  1940.  He 
presented  a  radio  address  over  station  KFVD,  on  June  5,  1940,  to  supplement 
the  campaign  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization.  He  spoke  at  the  Hollywood 
Town  Meeting  under  the  auspices  of  the  Hollywood  Peace  Forum  on  June  21, 
1940.  He  also  sent  greetings  to  the  meeting  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization 
held  in  Chicago,  August  31,  to  September  2,  1940.  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  member  of 
the  resolutions  committee  at  the  Chicago  meeting  of  the  American  Peace 
Mobilization. 

The  People's  World  of  January  23,  1940,  page  5,  and  February  8,  1940,  page  5, 
lists  him  as  the  speaker  at  various  so-called  peace  meetings  held  in  Hollywood 
and  Los  Angeles. 

Samuel  Ornitz  himself  admitted  he  helped  organize  the  American  Peace  Cru- 
sade, according  to  an  article  by  Ornitz  appearing  in  the  New  Masses  for  August 
27,  1940,  page  12. 

The  antiwar  stand  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  was  drastically  altered 
when  Hitler  attacked  the  Soviet  Union  on  June  22,  1941.  The  People's  World 
dated  July  7, 1941,  page  3,  quoted  Tom  CuUen,  executive  secretary  of  the  American 
Peace  Mobilization  as  saying:  "The  invasion  of  the  Soviet  Union  has  altered  the 
character  of  the  present  war  *  *  *."  The  newspaper  also  stated  that  the 
American  Peace  INIobilization  would  hold  a  mass  meeting  on  July  14,  1941,  at  the 
Philharmonic  Auditorium  at  which  the  new  policy  of  the  APM  and  a  program 
to  aid  the  defeat  of  Hitlerism  would  be  presented.  That  Samuel  Ornitz  went 
along  with  the  American  Peace  Mobilization  in  its  sudden  twist  is  evidenced 
by  the  same  newspaper  article  which  stated  that  Ornitz  would  be  one  of  the 
speakers  at  the  aforementioned  mass  meeting. 

9.  The  International  Labor  Defense,  American  section  of  the  International 
Red  Aid,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  has  been  cited  by  former  Attorney  Gen- 
eral Biddle  as  the  "legal  arm  of  the  Communist  Party"  (Congressional  Record, 
September  24,  1942). 

It  has  been  cited  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  as  a 
Communist  front  on  June  2.5,  1942,  March  29,  1944. 

Its  chief  interest  was  the  defense  of  Communist  cases.  According  to  a 
1937  letterhead  of  the  International  Labor  Defense,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  member 
of  its  Advisory  Board.  He  was  also  a  member  of  its  national  committee.  Equal 
Justice,  official  organ  of  the  International  Labor  Defense,  for  May  1940,  page  7, 
carries  the  gi-eetings  of  Samuel  Ornitz.  Closely  associated  with  the  International 
Labor  Defense,  and  similarly  Ornitz. 

Closely  associated  with  the  International  Labor  Defense,  and  similarly  in 
its  purposes,  was  the  National  Committee  for  the  Defense  of  Political  Prisoners. 
This  organization  has  been  cited  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  as  "substantially 
equivalent  to  International  Labor  Defense,  the  legal  arm  of  the  Communist 
Party." 

It  has  defended  such  prominent  Communists  as  Angelo  Herndon,  William 
Schneiderman,  and  Earl  Browder  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942). 
It  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  June  25,  1942,  and  INIarch  29,  1944.  Mr.  Ornitz  is  listed  as  a  mem- 
ber of  this  Committee  on  its  letterhead  dated  October  31,  1935. 

10.  The  National  Committee  for  People's  Rights  was  a  successor  organization 
to  the  National  Committee  for  the  Defense  of  Political  Prisoners.     According 


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to  Attorney  General  Biddle,  "In  January  1938  the  name  was  changed  to  the 
National  Committee  for  People's  Rights"  (C'ongressional  Record,  September 
24,  1942).  This  committee  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special 
Committee  on  Uu-Americati  Activities  on  March  29,  1944,  and  June  25,  1942. 
According  to  the  official  organ  of  the  National  Committee  for  People's  Rights, 
entitled  "News  You  Don't  Get,"  for  November  15,  1938,  Mr.  Urnitz  is  listed  as 
a  member. 

11.  The  criminal  syndicalism  laws  of  the  various  States  have  been  bitterly 
fought  by  the  Communist  Party  because  they  are  directed  chiefly  against  their 
machinations.  According  to  the  New  Masses,  of  December  1931,  page  30,  Mr. 
Ornitz  is  listed  as  a  speaker  at  a  meeting  iield  at  the  Star  Casi.io  in  New  York, 
on  Deceml)er  6,  1931,  to  tight  the  "vicious  criminal-syndicalism  law  of  Kentucky." 

12.  The  campaign  in  behalf  of  the  Scottsboro  boys  was  conducted  chiefly  by 
the  International  Labor  Defense,  described  above.  According  to  the  Western 
Worker,  official  Communist  organ  of  July  13,  193G,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  participant 
at  a  b(>neHt  in  behalf  of  the  campaign  for  the  Scottsboro  boys,  who  had  previously 
been  convicted.     This  benefit  affjiir  was  held  at  Club  Alabama  in  Los  Angeles. 

13.  World-wide  condemnation  accompanied  the  so-called  Moscow  trials,  which 
were  used  by  the  Soviet  Regime  to  eliminate  all  its  critics.  These  trials  were 
universally  held  to  be  a  travesty  of  .justice.  According  to  Soviet  Russia  Today, 
of  March,  1937,  pagt^s  14  and  15,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  signer  of  an  open  letter  to 
American  liberals,  defending  these  trials.  A  similar  statement  appeared  in  the 
Daily  Worker  of  April  28,  1938,  page  4,  as  a  Statement  of  American  Progressive 
on  the  Moscow  Trials. 

Mr.  Ornitz  again  was  listed  as  a  signer. 

Leon  Trot.sky  was  a  Soviet  official  who  broke  with  Stalin  and  sought  asylum  in 
Mexico.  According  to  the  Western  Worker,  a  west-coast  edition  of  the  Daily 
Worker,  dated  March  1,  1937,  Samuel  Ornitz  was  one  of  the  51  persons  who  signed 
an  open  letter  criticizing  the  American  Committee  for  the  Defense  of  Trotsky. 
The  open  letter  also  denounced  demands  for  investigation  of  the  Russian  "purge" 
trial  as  political  interference  in  the  internal  affairs  of  the  Soviet  Union  with 
hostile  intent. 

International  Literature  is  the  official  organ  of  the  International  Union  of  Rev- 
olutionary Writers,  which  had  its  headquarters  in  Moscow.  International  Lit- 
erature, No.  7,  dated  Julyl938,  page  105,  listed  a  group  of  individuals  who  were 
signers  to  a  "Statement  of  American  Intellectuals." 

The  statement  voiced  approval  of  the  attempt  of  the  Soviet  Union  to  preserve 
and  extend  its  gains  and  strength  by  the  then  recent  Moscow  trials,  and  it  sup- 
ported efforts  of  the  Soviet  Union  to  "free  itself  from  insidiovis  internal  dangers." 
Samuel  Ornitz  was  listed  as  one  of  the  signers  of  this  statement. 

14.  In  August  1943  a  committee  was  organized  for  a  reception  for  Prof.  S. 
Michoe's  and  Col.  I.  Feffer,  members  of  the  first  official  Soviet  Jewish  delegation 
to  the  United  States.  According  to  the  Peoples  World  of  August  9,  1943,  page  3, 
Samuel  Ornitz  was  a  member  of  the  national  reception  committee  for  these  men. 

15.  New  Masses  is  an  official  Communist  weekly  which  has  been  cited  as  a  Com- 
munist periodical  by  former  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle  (Congressional 
Record,  S?ptember  24,  1942).  It  was  also  cited  as  a  Communist  magazine  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-Ainerican  Activities  on  June  24,  1942,  and  March  29, 
1944.  Samuel  Ornitz  has  contributed  to  New  IMasses,  as  evidenced  by  the  issues 
of  the  publication  dated  December  19.31,  page  4 :  October  1931,  page  3;  August  27, 
1940.  page  12 :  and  August  12, 1941,  page  19.  It  is  an  accepted  Communist  practice 
to  limit  tlie  use  of  the  columns  of  its  publications  to  per.sons  who  toe  the  party  line. 

ir>.  The  Zukas-SCMWA  Committee  was  organized  in  defense  of  B.  Joseph 
Zukas,  who  was  a  Communist  leader  of  the  State,  County,  and  Municipal  Workers 
in  the  California  Relief  Administration,  wiiose  activities  were  under  investigation 
by  a  California  State  Assembly  connnlttec  in  1940.  According  to  the  letterhead 
of  this  fomniiftee.  dated  July  15,  1940.  IMr.  Ornitz  was  a  sponsor. 

17.  The  INIorning  Freiheit  is  the  official  Communist  organ  in  the  Jewish  lan- 
guage. The  Peoples  World  of  October  IS,  1943,  page  3.  lists  Mr.  Ornitz  as  vice 
chairman  of  the  Los  Angeles  Chapter  of  the  Morning  Freiheit  Association. 

The  Peoples  World  for  April  16,  1947,  reported  that  Paul  Novick.  editor  in  chief 
of  the  Moining  Freiheit,  New  Yoi-k  City,  would  speak  on  April  19,  1947,  at  the 
Embassy  Auditorium.  Ninth  and  Grand  Streets,  in  celebration'  of  thp  twenty-fifth 
anniversary  of  the  Freiheit.  The  article  further  stated  that  Samuel  Ornitz, 
"president  of  the  Freiheit  Association,  Los  Angeles,"  and  Harry  Daniels,  legis- 
lative director  of  the  Communist  Party,  would  also  speak  at  the  celebration. 


410  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION    PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

18.  Acting  in  accordance  with  the  instructions  of  the  Seventh  Conj;ress  of  the 
Comnuiiiist  International  issued  in  the  sumni'er  of  1935.  the  Communist  Party 
conducted  an  active  campaijiii  in  lielinlf  of  the  Spanisli  Connnunists  during  the 
Spanish  Civil  War.  At  a  meeting  helil  at  the  Shrine  Auditorium  in  Los  Angeies 
on  February  24,  1037,  Mr.  Ornitz  contributed  toward  a  fund  in  .support  of  these 
etTorts. 

19.  The  Abraham  Lincoln  Battalion  (Brigade)  was  a  military  organization 
recruited  by  the  Communist  Party  for  the  purpose  of  giving  military  aid  to  the 
Spanish  <  'onmuuiists. 

Ear!  P>row(lt'r,  former  executive  secretary  of  tlie  Communist  Party  has  admitted 
that  GO  percent  of  its  corps  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party.  Mr.  Ornitz 
is  listed  by  the  Peoples  World  of  July  19,  1938,  as  a  speaker  for  an  organization 
known  as  the  Friends  of  the  Aliraham  Lincoln  Brigade. 

The  Peoples  World  of  July  30,  1938,  page  3,  lists  him  as  a  speaker  in  honor  of 
Harry  Hynes  and  Virgil  Klietta,  who  were  both  members  of  the  Communist  Party, 
killed  in  action  under  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Battalion.  The  Friends  of  the 
Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  is  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  on  Marcli  29,  1944,  as  is  also  the  Abraham  Lincoln 
Brigade  or  Battalion. 

20.  The  League  of  American  Writers  was  the  American  affiliate  of  the  Inter- 
national Union  of  Revolutioiuiry  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow.  It  has 
been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  January  3,  1940,  June  25,"  1942,  and  March  29,  1944. 

It  has  also  been  cited  as  under  Coiumunist  auspices  by  Attorney  General  Biddle 
in  the  Congressional  Record  of  Septend)er  24,  1942.  The  organization  has  been 
pledged  to  the  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  "use  of  art  as  an  instrument  of  the 
class  struggle."  Mr.  Ornitz  is  listed  by  the  Daily  Worker  of  January  18,  1935, 
page  5,  as  a  signer  of  the  call  for  the  Comiress  of  American  Revolutionary  Writers, 
which  founded  the  League  of  American  Writers. 

The  Daily  Worker  of  September  14,  1942,  page  7,  lists  Mr.  Ornitz  as  a  signer 
of  a  statement  issued  by  the  League  of  American  Writers  demanding  the  opening 
of  a  second  front.  This  statement  was  issued  after  Hitler's  attack  on  Stalin  and 
the  change  of  the  Communist  Party  line  from  antiwar  to  prowar. 

Samuel  Ornitz  also  was  one  of  the  signers  of  the  call  to  the  fourth  congress, 
held  by  the  League  of  American  Writers  in  New  York  City,  June  (>-8,  1941. 

21.  The  Writers  Congress  held  October  1,  2,  3,  1943,  was  organized  by  the 
Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization,  as  successor  to  the  Hollywood  Chapter  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers.  On  the  official  program  of  the  Writers  Congress, 
Mr.  Ornitz  is  listed  as  a  member  of  the  panel  of  minority  groups. 

22.  The  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  was  founded  as  a  frankly  pro-com- 
munist group  as  a  result  of  a  split  in  the  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the 
Art.s,  Sciences,  and  Professions,  after  Harold  L.  Ickes  and  other  liberals  had 
condemned  the  Independent  Citizens  Committee  as  Communist  dominated.  Mr. 
Ornitz  is  listed  by  the  Daily  Worker  of  July  5,  1947,  page  11,  as  a  participant 
in  the  conference  of  the  Hollywood  arts,  sciences,  and  professions  council  of  the 
Progressive  Citizens  of  America.  The  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  has  been 
cited  by  the  Conuuittee  on  Un-American  Activities  as  a  Communist  front  in  its 
report  on  June  12,  1947. 

23.  The  Hollywood  Anti-Nazi  League  was  founde^l  by  Isaac  Romaine,  alias 
V.  J.  Jerome,  member  of  the  Central  Conuuittee  of  the  Communist  Party.  It  was 
dissolved  upon  the  signing  of  the  Stalin-Hitler  Pact.  According  to  the  Hollywood 
Now  of  June  16, 1939,  official  organ  of  the  League,  Mr.  Ornitz  is  listed  as  a  member 
who  was  active  since  the  organization  was  founded.  According  to  the  People's 
World  (»f  August  11,  1938,  page  1,  he  was  a  speaker  at  a  meeting  which  founded 
the  organization.  Hollywood  Now  of  September  28,  1938,  again  lists  him  as  a 
speaker. 

24.  The  International  Workers  Order  was  cited  by  Attorney  General  Biddle  as 
"one  of  the  strongest  Communist  organizations"  (Congressional  Record  September 
24, 1942) .  The  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  has  cited  this  organ- 
ization as  a  Conununist  front  on  January  3,  1940,  and  June  25,  1942.  The  organ- 
ization has  actively"  supported  Communist  campaigns,  candidates,  and  the 
Communist  Party  piess. 

On  February  4,  1940,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  the  principal  speaker  at  a  meeting  of 
the  International  Workers  Order,  held  at  972  North  Hobart  Boulevard,  Los 
Angeles. 

Again,  the  People's  World  of  June  4.  1943,  page  2,  lists  him  as  a  speaker  under 
the  auspices  of  the  Fraz  Boas  Lodge  of  the  International  Workers  Order  in  Los 


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Angeles.  The  Peoples  World  of  November  16,  1943,  page  2,  mentions  Mr.  Ornitz  as 
a  speaker  at  a  meeting  held  on  November  22,  1943,  at  Carpenters  Hall,  51(54  Santa 
Moiiic'M  Boulevard,  Los  Angeles. 

2.").  The  Hollywood  Leagne  for  Democratic  Action  cooperated  vpith  the  Holly- 
wood Peace  t'ornm  at  a  meeting  held  at  the  Wilshire-Ebell  Anditoriiun  on  May  3, 
1940.  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  si)ealcer.  The  Hollywood  Leagne  lor  Democratic  Action 
was  the  i)redecessor  of  the  Hollywood  branch  of  the  Independent  Citizens 
Conmiittee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions,  which  is  mentioned  above. 

20.  The  American  Stndent  Union  has  been  cited  as  a  Connunnist  front  by  the 
Sp(>cial  Conmiittee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  Jannary  3,  1940.  .June  2.3,  1942, 
and  March  29,  1944.  The  Rapi)-Coudert  committee  investigating  Communist 
activities  in  the  New  York  public  schools  has  cited  this  as  an  organization  "for 
transmitting  the  aims  and  programs  of  which  the  Y'^oung  Connnunist  League  is 
the  initiating  and  projecting  element." 

Mr.  Ornitz  was  one  of  the  principal  instructors  of  the  American  Student  Union 
cami»  lield  in  the  San  Bernardino  Mountains  from  August  IS  to  2.5,  1940. 

2V.  The  Workers  International  Relief  was  an  international  organization,  with 
headquarters  in  Moscow,  which  raised  funds  for  Couununist-led  strikes  and 
campaigns  throughout  the  world.  It  was  closely  associated  with  the  Inter- 
national Labor  Defense.  According  to  the  Daily  Worker  of  May  8,  1934,  Mr. 
Ornitz  was  the  chairman  of  an  open-forum  meeting,  held  in  Los  Angeles  on  April 
15,  1934,  in  behalf  of  the  Workers  International  Relief. 

28.  According  to  Peoples  World  of  January  21,  1940,  Mr.  Ornitz  was  a  sponsor 
for  the  Conference  for  Democratic  Action  held  at  Fresno,  Calif.  This  organization 
has  been  cited  as  a  Connnunist  front  by  the  California  Joint  Fact-Findiug 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  in  its  report  for  1943,  page  91.  It  is 
closely  linked  to  the  Hollywood  League  for  Democratic  Action  cited  above. 

21-'.  Actors  Laboratory  was  a  training  school  for  actors  in  Hollywood  whose 
officers  have  lengthy  records  of  Connnunist-front  activity  as  evidenced  in  attached 
reports;  such  othcers  include  Roman  Bohnen,  chairman,  Larry  Parks,  treasurer; 
Morris  Carnovsky,  Jules  Dassin,  Edward  Dmytryk,  members  of  the  executive 
board. 

The  organization  cooperated  with  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  which 
has  been  described  above.  An  undated  leaflet  of  the  Actors  Laboratory  Theatre, 
entitled  "An  Evening  for  the  Lab"  lists  Samuel  Ornitz  and  his  wife  as  "audience 
sponsors." 

30.  The  Motion  Picture  Artists  Committee  was  an  affiliate  of  the  North 
American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy,  which  was  al.so  part  of  the 
campaign  to  aid  Spanish  Communists.  The  North  American  Committee  was  cited 
as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on 
January  3,  1940.  and  March  29,  1944,  and  by  Prof.  John  Dewey's  Committee  for 
Cultural  Freedom  in  April  1940.  The  Motion  Picture  Artists  Committee  was 
led  by  William  Cropper,  well-known  cartoonist  for  the  Communist  press,  and 
Kyle  Chricton,  alias  Robert  Forsythe,  a  frequent  contributor  to  New  Masses. 
Samuel  Ornitz  was  a  member  of  the  Motion  Picture  Artists  Committee,  according 
to  Who's  Who  in  America,  volume  20  (1938-39),  page  1904. 

The  Chairman.  Next  -witness,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  SxRirLiNG.  Mr.  Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

Tlie  Chairman.  Mr.  Lardner.  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  is  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Kenny.  I  would  like  to  say,  Mr.  Chairman  and  Mr.  Stripling, 
Mr.  Lardner  was  notified  to  hold  himself  in  readiness,  if  you  recall. 
He  was  subpenaed.  He  is  not  in  attendance  today.  How^ever,  if  you 
indicate  when  you  wi.sh  him  here,  I  will  see  that  he  is  available. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  has  been  here  almost  every  day,  has  he  not? 

Mr.  Kknny.  Well,  the  last  week  nearly  every  day.  And  I  think  we 
can  get  Mr.  Lardner 

The  Chairman.  Is  he  in  the  city  now,  do  you  know  ? 

Mr.  Kenny.  I  don't  know.  I  think — well,  I  have  19  clients  and  I 
haven't  kept  track  of  them.     I  think  I  can  locate  him  for  you. 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  you  locate  him  as  quickly  as  possible  and 
tell  him  we  want  him  here  today. 


412  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr,  Kenny.  I  will.  Because  lie  has  not  been  given  a  definite  time 
to  appear,  I  have  not  had  an  opportunity  to  talk  with  him  on  his  con- 
stitutional rights,  as  the  other  witnesses,  so  I  would  like  some  time 
in  order  to  discuss  matters  with  him. 

The  CiiAiR]\rAN.  Well,  that  is  true,  but  Mr.  Lardner  has  been  here 
almost  every  day. 

Mr.  Kenny.  That  is  right. 

'J'he  Chairman.  He  knows  just  what  has  been  going.  He  knows 
just  what  the  other  witnesses  have  been  doing.  They  huve  all  acted 
under  your  instruction. 

Mr.  Kenny.  No;  they  haven't. 

The  Chairman.  As  his  attorney,  we  want  you  to  get  Mr.  Lardner  as 
soon  as  possible. 

Next  witness 

Mr.  Kenny.  Yes,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  will  get  him  as  soon  as  possible, 
but  "possible"  does  include,  I  am  sure,  a  reasonable  opportunity  to 
consult  with  counsel  on  his  constitutional  rights,  does  it  not? 

The  Chairman.  You  have  already  had  that  opportunity. 

Mr.  Kenny.  Not  with  Mr.  Lardner. 

The  Chairman.  Oh,  not  with  Mr.  Lardner  ? 

Mr.  Kenny.  No. 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead,  next  witness. 

Mr.  Striplino.  Mr.  Kenny,  is  Mr.  Biberman  here  ? 

Mr,  Kenny,  Yes ;  Mr,  Biberman  is  here.     You  subpenaed  him. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Biberman. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Herbert  Biberman. 

(Mr.  Herbert  Biberman,  accompanied  by  Robert  W,  Kenny,  counsel, 
takes  place  at  witness  table.) 

The  Chairman,  Will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please? 

Mr.  Biberman,  do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  that  you 
are  about  to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the 
truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr,  Biberman,  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

Mr,  Biberman,  Mr.  Chairman 

TESTIMONY  OF  HEEBEUT  BIBERMAN 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Biberman,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address,  please? 

Mr.  Biberman.  Herbert  Joseph  Biberman,  3259  Deronda  Drive, 
Hollywood,  Calif. 

Mr  Stripling,  When  and  where  were  you  liorn,  Mr,  Biberman  ? 

Mr.  Biberman.  I  was  born  within  a  stone's  throw  of  Independence 
Hall  in  Philadelphia,  on  the  day  when  Mr.  McKinley  was  inaugurated 
as  President  of  the  United  States,  March  4,  1900,  on  the  second  floor 
of  a  building  at  Sixth  and  South,  over  a  grocery  store. 

Mr,  Stripling,  INIr,  Biberman,  would  you  assure  the  committee  that 
you  will  be  as  detailed  and  specific  in  all  your  answers  ? 

Mr,  Biberman.  I  assure  you  I  will  be  as  detailed  and  specific  in 
answers  to  any  questions  you  direct  at  me. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  a  statement  here  which  I  feel  has  the  greatest 
relevance  to  the  subject  of  this  inquiry  and  to  the  chairman's  remark 
of  this  morning:. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  .      413 

The  Chairman.  Have  you  fully  identified  this  witness  ? 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  I  would 

Tlie  Chairman  (sounding  gavel).  Just  a  minute.     Have  you  fully 
identified  this  witness  'i 

Mr,  Stripling.  No,  sir;  I  haven't. 
The  Chairman.  Then  continue  to  identify  him. 
Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  your  occupation  '^ 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  I. am  a  director,  a  producer,  and  a  writer — in  the 
theater  in  the  past  and  in  motion  pictures  at  present. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  in  the  motion-picture 
industry? 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  Since  1935,  January  2. 
Mr.  STiiiPLiNG.  You  have  been  a  writer  ? 
Mr.  BiBERMAN.  I  have  been  a  writer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  been  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers' 
Guild? 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  Mv.  Chairman,  I  Jiave  a  statement  here  I  ask  you 
to  look  at.    Would  you  kindly  do  that  now  ? 
(Statement  handed  to  the  chairman.) 

The  Chairman.  INIr.  Biberman,  this  statement  is  clearly  not  per- 
tinent.   If  another  case 

Mr.  Biberman.  You  mean  because  it  is  directly  on  the  subject,  Mr. 
Chairman  ? 

The  Chairman.  It  is  another  case  of  vilification,  and  therefore  will 
not  be  read. 

Mr.  Biberman.  There  is  no  vilification  in  this  statement.    I  feel 

your  refusal  to  allow  me  to  read  it  is  a  shameful  and  cowardly  act. 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Next  question,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Biberman,  are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen 

Writers'  Guild  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers' 

Guild? 

Mr.  Biberman.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  vvould  like  to  reply  to  this  very 
quietly — Mr.  Chairman,  also.  If  I  will  not  be  interrupted,  I  will 
attempt  to  give  you  a  full  answer  to  this  question. 

It  has  become  very  clear  to  me  that  the  real  purpose  of  this 

investigation 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).    That  is  not  an  answer  to  the 

question 

Mr.  Biberman.  Is  to  drive  a  wedge 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  That  is  not  the  question. 
(Pounding  gavel.) 

JNIr.  Biberman.  Into  the  component  parts 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).     Not  the  question 

Mr.  Biberman.  Of  the  motion-picture  industry. 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).     Ask  him  the  next  question. 

Mr.  Biberman.  And  by  defending  my  constitutional  rights  here 

I  am  defending 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel) .  Go  ahead  and  ask  him  the  next 
question. 

Mr.  Biberman.  The  right  not  only  of  ourselves 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member 

Mr.  Biberman.  But  of  the  producers  and  of  the  American  people. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Of  the  Communist  Party? 

67683 — 47 27 


414  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Chairmax.  Are  you  a  ineiiiber  of  the  Coinnnmist  Party  or 
have  you  ever  been? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member 

Mr.  BiBEKMAN.  What  is  the  question  now? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  now  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of 
the  Connnunist  Partj'^? 

Mr.  BiHERMAN.  It  is  perfectly  clear,  gentlemen,  that  if  you  continue 
in  this  particular  fashion 

(The  chairman  ])ounds  gavel.) 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  will  you  direct  the  witness 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  You  have  only  one  idea 

Mr.  Stripling.  To  answer  the  question? 

The  Chairman.  Answer  the  question. 


Mr.  BiBERMAN.  And  that  is  to  cause  strife  in  the  industry 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  You  are  excused 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  Chaos  in  the  industry,  and  this  I  will  not  permit. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  direct  the  witness  to  answer  that  question 
before  he  leaves  the  stand  ? 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  I  have  not  refused  to  answer  the  question.  I  told 
you  before  I  will  answer  this  question  fulh^ 

Mr.  Stripling.  My.  Biberman 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  Your  purpose  is  to  use  this  to  disrupt  the  motion- 
picture  industry 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  To  invade  the  right  not  only  of  me 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  But  of  the  producers 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 


Mr.  BiBERMAN.  To  their  thoughts  and  to  their  opinions 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

]\Ir.  BiBERMAN.  And  this  I  will  not  permit. 

Mr.  SiTJiPLiNG.  Do  you  refuse  to  answer  whether  or  not  you  are 
noM'  or  have  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Connnunist  Part}'? 

Mr.  BiBERMAN.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  apologize  for  one  thing  and  that  is 
raising  my  voice.    I  had  no  intention  of  doing  so.    [Laughter.] 

I  told  you  mail}'  times,  if  you  will  not  interrupt  me,  I  will  answer 
this  question  at  great  length.  Shall  I  proceed  with  answering  this 
question  ? 

The  Chairman.  No.  You  can  answer  the  question  ''Yes"  or  "No." 
That  is  a  very  simple  question. 

]\Ir.  BiBERMAN.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  be  vevy  suspicious  of  any 
auswer  that  came  out  of  my  mouth  that  pleased  this  committee. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  would,  too. 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel) .  All  right,  you  are  excused.  Take 
him  away. 

Next  witness, 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  want  the  record  to  show  that  Mr,  Biberman  was 
before  the  committee  in  response  to  a  subpena  served  upon  him  on 
September  22,  and  also  in  response  to  a  wire  sent  to  him  on  October  11, 
I  will  noAv  ask  that  Mr.  Russell  take  the  stand.*'' 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Russell. 


"'See  appendix,  p.  ,546,  for  oxIiil)its  80  and  81. 


.    COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  415 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  RUSSELL 

^Ir.  Sthii'Ltnc.  Mv.  liiisst'll,  you  have  made  and  Avere  instructed  to 
make  an  invest ij^ation  to  determine  whether  or  not  Herbert  Biberman, 
a  writer-director  from  Hollywood,  is  now  or  was  in  the  past  a  member 
of  the  Conmiunist  Paity  of  the  United  States? 

Mr.  EussELL.  I  was. 

Mr.  Striplixo.  Give  the  connnittee  the  results  of  your  investigation. 

Mr.  Russell.  During  the  course  of  mj^  investigation  I  obtained  in- 
formation I'egarding  Communist  Party  registration  card  of  Herbert 
l^iberman  for  the  year  1944.  This  card  bears  the  number  47267.  It 
is  made  out  in  the  name  "Herbert  Biberman."  The  address  is  given 
as  3259  Deronda  Drive,  city,  Los  Angeles,  county,  Los  Angeles,  State, 
California.  This  card  contains  a  statement  "New  card  issued  on  De- 
cember 10,  1944."  It  contains  another  notation :  "1944  card  No. 
46844."*^ 

The  description  of  Herbert  Biberman  is  given  as  follows:  Male. 
Occupation,  director.  Industry,  motion  pictures.  Color,  white.  The 
question  is  asked :  ^Member  of  CIO,  A.  F.  of  L.  independent  union  or 
no  union.  Independent  union  is  checked.  Another  question  con- 
tained on  the  card,  a  photostatic  copy  of  which  I  have  before  me  is 
member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker  ?  Above  that  is  a  notation 
in  ink  "PW" — meaning  People's  ^Yorld.    The  answer  "Yes"  is  checked. 

Mr.  STRiruixo.     That  is  all,  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Chairman,  our  investigation  shows  without  any  doubt  that  Mr. 
Biberman  is  a  member  of  the  Communist  Pai'ty.  I  don't  think  any- 
thing could  better  characterize  his  affiliation,  however,  than  to  point  out 
that  during  the  period  of  the  Soviet-Nazi  pact  ISIr.  Biberman  was  a 
member  of  the  National  Council  of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization. 
In  fact,  his  name  appears  as  one  of  the  signers  of  the  call.  He  was  the 
honorary  chairman  of  the  Los  Angeles  Branch  of  the  organization. 
Everyone  remembers  the  treasonable  activities  of  the  American  Peace 
Mobilization. 

Now,  we  have  a  memorandum  here  on  Mr.  Biberman  prepared  by 
the  committee's  statf,  in  which  19  separate  affiliations  are  listed. 

What  is  the  desire  of  the  committee,  Mr.  Chairman? 

The  Chaiemax.  All  right,  start  reading. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  Is  it  all  right  if  Mr.  Gaston  reads,  Mr.  Chairman? 

The  Chairmax".  Yes. 

Mr.  Gastox  (reading)  : 

IXFOKirATiox  From  thk  Fir.Ks  of  thk  Com.mittkk  on  XJN-A^rERiCAX  Activitiks — 
United  States  Hoi^se  of  Representatives,  of  Hekbert  Bhjerman 

Herbei-t  Biberman,  according  to  tlie  International  Motion  Picture  Almanac  has 
written  the  fohiwing  films:  King  of  Chinatown,  Road  to  Yesterday,  and  The 
Master  Race.    He  has  also  directed  One  Way  Ticket  and  Meet  Nero  Wolfe. 

The  files,  records,  and  publications  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
contain  the  following  information  concei'ning  the  Communist  ami  Comunist-front 
affiliation  of  Mr.  Biberman: 

1.  The  People's  Educational  Center  was  fomided  and  is  conducted  by  leading 
members  of  the  Conmiunist  Party  in  Los  Angeles  and  Hollywood.  It  is  the  suc- 
cessor to  the  Communist  Los  Angeles  Workers  School,  which  participated  in  the 
founding  and  development  of  the  People's  Educational  Centei'. 


S<>e  appendix,  p.  .'540,  for  exhibit  82. 


416  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  People's  World  of  January  13,  1944,  page  4,  states  that  Herbert  Biberman 
was  on  the  staff  of  the  People's  Educational  Center  during  that  j-ear,  and  accord- 
ing to  the  summer  1945  catalog  of  that  school,  he  was  listed  as  a  lecturer.  His 
biography  included  therein  states  that  he  spent  "6  months  in  the  U.  S.  S.  R. 
studying  the  Soviet  theater.''  Tlie  Peoph^'s  World  is  the  official  west  coast  organ 
of  the  Communist  Party.  Herbert  B-lbermau's  affiliation  with  the  People's  Educa- 
tional Cetner  during  the  year  1947  is  shown  in  Variety,  June  .'JO,  1947,  page  10. 

2.  In  an  exhibit  presented  before  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activ- 
ities during  the  public  hearings  (vol.  14,  p.  85S.i),  Herbert  Biberman's  name  ap- 
pears as  a  sponsor  of  a  testimonial  dinner  to  Leo  Gallagher.  In  1938  Leo  Gallagher 
was  the  Communist  Party  candidate  for  the  office  of  secretary  of  state  in  Cali- 
fornia.    The  dinner  was  lield  on  June  2,  1941,  in  Los  Angeles. 

3.  Mr.  Biberman  has  written  for  the  New  Masses,  the  official  weekly  magazine 
of  the  Communist  Party  which  was  described  as  a  "Communist  periodical"  by 
Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle  in  the  Congressional  Record  of  September  24, 
1942,  page  7688.  His  contributions  appear  in  the  is.sues  of  August  20,  1940, 
pag.i  S ;  June  17,  1941,  page  17  ;  July  8,  1941,  page  26  ;  and  July  29,  1941.  page  16. 

4.  The  Daily  Worker  of  September  3,  1940,  page  4,  which  is  the  official  organ 
of  the  Communist  I'arty  of  tlie  United  States,  named  Herbert  Biberman  as  a 
member  of  tlie  National  Council  o¥  the  American  Peace  Mobilization,  and  his  name 
appears  as  one  of  the  signers  of  the  Call  to  the  American  People's  Meeting  which 
was  held  in  New  York  City,  April  5-6,  1941. 

The  proceedings  of  the  first  convention,  November  30-December  1,  1940,  page  4. 
also  lists  his  name  as  the  honorary  chairman  of  tlie  Los  Angeles  Branch  of  the 
organization.  The  American  Peace  Mobilization  will  be  remembsred  as  the 
organization  which  picketed  the  White  House  during  the  time  of  the  Stalin- 
Hitler  pact.  On  the  day  that  Hitler  attacked  Russia,  the  pickets  were  withdrawn 
from  tlie  White  House.  According  to  New  Masses  of  August  6,  1940,  page  22, 
Herbert  Dlbi-rman  was  the  temporary  chairman  and  speaker  at  an  April  6,  1940, 
mass  meeting  of  tlie  American  Peace  Crusade,  which  was  the  forerunner  of  the 
American  Peace  Mobilization  in  California. 

He  was  also  listed  as  an  officer  of  the  American  Peace  Crusade  in  the  leaflet. 
We,  the  People  of  the  United  States  Will  Keep  Out  of  War,  published  by  that 
organization.  According  to  the  Daily  Worker  of  April  21,  1941,  page  7,  Herbert 
Biberman  was  a  leader  of  the  American  Peace  Crusade  which  aided  in  the  forma- 
tion of  the  American  Peace  Mobilization.  The  Emergency  Peace  Mobilization 
was  held  on  August  31  (o  September  2,  1940,  in  Chicago,  for  the  purpose  of 
organizing  the  American  Peace  Mobilization. 

5.  IMr.  Biberman  is  listed  on  a  program  leaflet  of  June  7,  1940,  page  4,  and  a 
letterhead  of  June  3,  1940,  as  a  member  of  the  provisional  committee  of  the  Con- 
ference on  Constitutional  Liberties  in  America  which  was  cited  as  a  Communist 
front  bv  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of 
March  29,  1944. 

The  Conference  on  Constitutional  Liberties  in  America  was  the  predecessor 
to  the  National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties,  an  organization  noted  for 
its  defense  of  Communists.  A  letterhead  of  the  latter  organization  lists  Mr. 
Biberman  as  a  sponsor. 

In  addition  to  being  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  in  Reports  of  June  25,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944,  and  by 
the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of  Jmie  12,  1947,  the 
National  Federation  for  Constitutional  Liberties  was  cited  by  Attorney  General 
Francis  Biddle  in  these  words :  "The  defenses  of  Communist  leaders  such  as  Sam 
Darcy  and  Robert  Wood,  party  secretaries  for  Pennsylvania  and  Oklahoma,  have 
been  major  efforts  of  the  federation"  (Congressional  Record,  Sept.  24,  1942, 
p.  7687). 

6.  The  American  Committee  to  Save  Refugees  was  a  part  of  the  Communist 
campaign  for  Loyalist  Spain,  and  it  provided  transportation  and  support  for 
international  Communist  agents  such  as  Gerhart  Eisler.  An  undated  folder, 
"For  the  Rescue  of  Refugees,"  lists  the  name  of  Herbert  Biberman  as  a  signer 
of  a  pro-Soviet  statement  of  this  organization.  The  American  Committee  to  Save 
Refugees  was  also  cited  as  a  Communist  front  bv  the  Special  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities  in  report  1311,  March  29,  1914. 

7.  The  Communist  International  at  its  seventh  congress 

Tlie  CiiAiPMAN.  Suspend  the  reading,  ])lea.se.  Without  objection, 
further  reading  will  be  dispensed  with.  It  will  all  be  placed  in  the 
record  at  this  point. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  417 

(Balance  of  the  statement  referred  to  above  is  as  follows :) 

The  CoMimimist  International  at  its  Seventh  congress  which  was  held  in  Mos- 
cow in  1935,  instructed  the  various  Communist  Parties  to  assist  in  the  Spanish 
Communist  cause.  The  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States,  in  response  to 
these  orders,  set  up  a  Spanish-aid  campaign  and  formed  organizations  to  accom- 
plish this  task. 

One  of  these  was  the  North  American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy, 
which  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  in  reports  of  January  3,  1940,  and  March  29,  194-1,  as  well  as  by  the 
Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom,  Professor  Dewey,  chairman,  April  1940. 
Herbert  Biberman  was  listed  as  a  member  of  the  local  sponsoring  committee  for 
the  North  American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy  in  a  letterhead  of 
that  committee. 

8.  The  Daily  Worker  of  August  17,  1937,  page  3,  reveals  that  Herbert  Biber- 
man was  a  sponsor  of  a  benefit  for  Spanish  Loyalist  children,  and  another  Daily 
Worker,  that  of  September  17,  1937,  page  9,  shows  that  he  was  a  contributor 
to  an  ambulance  for  Loyalist  Spain.  Both  of  these  projects  were  a  part  of  a 
campaign  in  behalf  of  the  Spanish  Communist  cause  organized  by  the  Communist 
Party  in  accordance  with  the  orders  of  the  Communist  International. 

9.  The  first  congress  of  Mexican  and  Spanish-American  Peoples,  which  was 
supported  by  Latin-American  Communist  Paities  was  cited  as  a  Communist 
front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of 
March  29,  1944,  and  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report 
of  September  2,  1947.  A  mimeographed  release,  dated  March  24r-26,  1939,  lists 
Mr.  Biberman  as  a  signer  of  the  call  to  the  congress. 

10.  The  Hollywood  Democratic  Committee,  which  succeeded  the  Hollywood 
Anti-Nazi  League,  organized  by  Isaac  Romaine,  also  known  as  V.  J.  Jerome,  a 
member  of  the  central  committee  of  the  Communist  Party.  Mr.  Biberman's 
connection  with  this  organization  is  shown  by  an  official  ballot,  dated  July  26, 
1944,  on  which  his  name  appeared  as  a  candidate  for  oflice  in  that  organization. 

11.  The  Communist  press  has  given  its  support  to  a  petition  for  the  pardon 
of  Festus  Coleman,  of  which  Mr.  Biberman  was  a  signer,  according  to  the  People's 
World,  October  16,  1942,  page  2. 

12.  According  to  the  Daily  Worker,  September  14,  1942,  page  7,  and  People's 
World,  September  23,  1942,  page  5,  Herbert  Biberman  was  a  signer  of  a  state- 
ment of  the  League  of  American  Writers  in  behalf  of  a  second  front.  The  League 
of  Amei'ican  Writers  has  been  pledged  to  defend  the  Soviet  Union  and  "use 
of  art  as  an  instrument  of  the  class  struggle."  The  Clipper,  a  publication  of 
the  league,  lists  Herbert  Biberman  as  a  contributor  in  its  August  1941  copy, 
page  31.  It  was  affiliated  with  the  International  Union  of  Revolutionary  AVriters, 
with  headquarters  in  Moscow  and  has  been  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the 
Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  on  three  occasions.  (See  com- 
mittee reports,  January  3,  1940,  June  15,  1942,  and  March  29,  1944.)  Also,  At- 
torney General  Francis  Biddle  has  said  that  "the  overt  activities  of  the  League 
of  American  Writers  in  the  last  2  years  leave  little  doubt  of  its  Communist 
control"  (Congressional  Record,  September  24,  1942,  p.  76S6). 

13.  The  New  Theatre  of  July  1936,  page  14,  contains  an  article  by  Mr.  Biber- 
man. New  Theatre  was  the  official  organ  of  the  League  of  Workers  Theatres,  an 
afliliate  of  the  International  Union  of  Revolutionary  Theatres,  with  headquarters 
in  Moscow,  and  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  in  report  1311,  March  29,  1944. 

14.  The  Associated  Film  Audiences,  which  merged  with  Films  for  Democracy 
to  foi'm  Film  Audiences  for  Democracy,  was  organized  for  the  purpose  of  gaining 
the  support  of  audiences  for  pro-Communist  films.  During  the  time  of  the 
Stalin-Hitler  pact  it  was  antiwar  in  conformance  with  the  Communist  Party 
line.  Mr.  Biberman  was  a  member  of  the  executive  board  of  Associated  Film 
Audiences,  according  to  Film  Survey,  May  1939,  page  4.  * 

15.  A  letterhead,  dated  February  2,  1944,  lists  Herbert  Biberman  as  a  national 
board  member  of  the  Jewish  People's  Committee,  which  was  headed  by  William 
Weiner,  Reuben  Saltzman,  Joseph  R.  Brodsky,  and  other  leading  Communists. 
In  the  report  of  March  29, 1944,  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
cited  the  Jewish  People's  Committee  as  a  Conununist  front. 

16.  Mr.  Biberman's  affiliation  with  the  Consumers  Union  is  shown  by  the 
Consumers  Union  Reports,  December  193S.  page  15,  to  which  he  was  a  contributor. 
The  Consumers  Union  was  led  by  Arthur  Kallet,  alias  Edward  Adams,  a  staff 
writer  for  the  Daily  Worker.  The  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
cited  it  as  a  Communist  front  in  the  report  of  March  29,  1944. 


418  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

17.  Herbert  Hibcniiiiirs  iiiuut'  ;ii)i»t';iis  dii  a  Ifltfrlifad  of  tVhiuary  124,  I'.MO, 
as  a  sponsor  of  i\ui  Hollywood  League  for  Dt'iiiocratic  Action,  the  predecessor  of 
the  Hollywood  branch  of  the  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts, 
Sciences,  and  Professions.  The  issue  of  conimunism  within  the  Independent  Citi- 
zens Connnittee  resulted  in  the  dissolution  of  tlie  (ir{;anization  and  the  resignation 
of  Harold  L.  Ickes  and  other  liberals.  The  Connnittee  on  TJn-Ameri<-an  Activitie.s 
cited  the  Hollywood  League  for  Democratic  Action  as  a  front  orsanizution  de- 
fending Communists  in  the  report  of  June  12,  1!>47.  It  was  also  cited  by  the 
Committee  for  Cultural  Freedom.  Prof.  John  Dewey,  chairman,  April  1040. 

18.  According  to  evid«Mice  submitted  to  the  Si)ecial  Connnittee  on  Un-American 
Activities  during  the  public  hearings  (vol.  1,  p.  .">(;!>).  Herbert  Biberman  was  a 
member  of  the  executive  board  of  the  ^Motion  Picture  Artists  Coinmitte<\  aflili- 
ated  with  tlie  North  Amei-ican  Connnittee  to  Aiil  Spanish  Democracy. 

The  Motion  Picture  Artists  Committee  wjis  headed  by  William  Cropper,  Kyle 
Crichton,  also  known  as  Robert  Forsythe,  and  other  writers  for  the  Coranuuiist 
press.  The  North  American  Committee  to  Aid  Spanish  Democracy  was  cited 
as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in 
the  reports  of  January  8,  1040,  and  March  2!).  1044.  and  by  the  Committee  for 
Cultural  Freedom,  Prof.  John  Dewey,  chairman,  April  1040. 

10.  The  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Profe.«sions 
split  after  Harold  Ickes  and  other  libi^rals  condemned  the  organization  as  (Vun- 
munist  dominated.  The  pro-Conununist  section,  after  the  split,  formed  the  Pro- 
gressive Citizens  of  America.  Tlie  Progressive  Citizens  of  America  was  cited  as 
a  Communist  front  by  the  House  Connnittee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  a 
report  of  June  12,  1047.  The  official  ballot  of  the  Progressive  Citizens  of  America, 
dated  September  17,  1047,  lists  Herbert  Biberman  as  candidate  for  the  executive 
board. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  before  Mr.  Vail  makes  his  remark, 
I  wonder  if  _yoii  would  ask  Mr.  Kenny  and  Mr.  Crtim  which  one  of 
their  clients  are  present  for  examination  at  this  time? 

The  Chairman.  Either  Mr.  Kenny  or  Mr.  (^rum,  could  you  tell  ii.s 
the  names  of  yonr  clients  who  are  present  now  ? 

Mr.  Kenny.  Mr.  Dmytryk  is. 

Mr.  Crum.  And  we  are  advised.  Mr.  Chairman,  that  Mr.  Lardner 
will  be  detained  but  will  be  here  this  afternoon. 

The  Ciiair:\ian.  Good.     What  other  clients  are  here  now? 

Mr.  Crum.  We  advised  Mr.  Strijilin^  this  moi-ning  that  Mr.  Adrian 
Scott  has  larynofitis,  but  he  Avill  be  here  at  your  pleasure.  It  was 
thought  advisable  until  the  committee  wanted  to  hear  him  for  him 
not  to  be  here.     We  can  have  them  here. 

The  Chairman.  How  about  Mr.  Lavery. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  don't  represent  Mr.  Lavery  ? 

Mr.  Crum.  No  ;  we  do  not. 

The  Chairman.  Is  Mr.  Lavery  in  the  room  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  before  me  a  manual  issued  by  the 
International  Labor  Defense,  which  is  the  le.lice  station  wheiv  yon  are  brouKlit  by  the  arresting  officer  and  booked. 
Booking  means  simply  tliat  tlie  record  of  tlie  ;irrest  is  made  in  a  book.  Give  no 
information  to  any  assistant  district  attorney  wlio  may  come  to  you  smilingly 
and  in  a  kindly  manner  try  to  get  information  from  yon,  stating  that  he  is  in- 
terested only  in  the  trnfli  and  wants  to  help  you.  If,  on  the  contrary,  he  comes 
to  you  in  a  threatening,  bidldozing  manner,  trying  to  force  information  out  of  you, 
do  not  yield,  and  when  we  say  no  information  we  mean,  above  all,  that  you  shall 
not  give  the  names  of  your  fellow  work(>rs,  the  names  of  organizations  that  you 
belong  to,  details  about  your  union,  or  any  other  inforniatit)n,  regardless  of  how 
innocent  it  may  appear  to  you. 

I  believe  that  these  inenibers  of  the  party  liave  folhnved  those  in- 
strnctions  to  the  letter.  Mr.  Chainnaii. 

The  CiiAiR^r.vx.  Tlie  Chair  would  like  to  announce  that  by  unani- 
mous vote  of  the  subconunittee,  the  subconiniittee  recommends  to  the 
full  committee  that  Samuel  Ornitz  and  Herbert  Biberman  be  cited  for 
contempt  and  approjiriate  action  be  taken  inmiediately. 

The  next  witness,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Striplixc;.  Emmet  Lavery. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Lavery,  will  you  raise  your  rioht  hand,  please? 

Mr;  Lavery.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are 
about  to  ^ive  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth, 
so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  do,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down',  please. 

Mr.  La^T'^ry.  jNIr.  Chairman,  after  being  identified  by  Mr.  Stripling, 
I  have  several  very  brief  motions  for  the  record  which  I  would  like 
to  make. 

I  hasten  to  add  that  they  are  for  the  purpose  of  clarifying  the  dis- 
cussion, not  for  obstructing  the  work  of  the  committee. 

I  hope  to  be  a  reasonably  responsive,  and  I  hope  eloquent,  witness. 

TESTIMONY  OF  EMMET  G.  LAVERY 

Mr.  Stripling.  jNfr.  Lavery,  will  you  state  your  full  name  and  pres- 
ent address? 

Mr.  Lavery.  My  name  is  Emmet  G.  Lavery.  I  live  at  1075  Casiano 
Koad,  Los  Angeles  24. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  was  born  at  Poiighkeepsie,  N.  Y..  Dutchess  Countv, 
November  8,  1902. 

Mr.  Stripling.     What  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  am  a  playwright,  screen  writer,  and  member  of  the 
Bar  of  the  State  of  New  York. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  a  writer? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  have  written,  alternately,  for  the  stage  and  screen, 
since  the  year  1934.  At  the  present  time  I  am  I'ehearsing,  or  about  to 
lehearse,  in  New  York  a  ])lay  which  has  been  variously  described  and 
was  described  before  this  committee. 

In  Hollywood,  I  am  currently  preparing  for  an  independent  film 
production,  an  adaptation  of  a  play  about  the  Jesuits,  for  The  First 
Legion. 

5lr.  Stripling.  Would  you  give  us  the  names  of  some  of  your  plays, 
Mr.  La  very? 


420  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Lavery.  Gladly.  I  think  the  play — and  I  would  be  ^lad  to 
offer  a  co])y  of  it  in  evidence,  by  way  of  identification — with  which 
the  committee  is  probably  most  familiar  is  The  Magnificent  Yankee, 
a  dramatization  of  the  life  of  Mr.  Justice  Holmes  from  the  biography 
by  Francis  Biddle,  former  Attorney  General  of  the  United  States. 

My  screen  plays  best  knowm  are  two  that  dealt  with  war  topics: 
Hitler's  Children,  an  adaptation  from  Education  for  Death,  by  Gregor 
Ziemer,  and  Behind  the  Rising  Sun — both  produced  by  R-K-6. 

My  writings  for  the  theater  have  included  The  First  Legion,  which 
has  been  produced  in  12  languages  since  it  was  first  done  in  the  United 
States  in  1934;  Monsignor's  Hour;  Second  Spring,  a  play  about  Car- 
dinal Newman  and  Cardinal  Manning;  Brother  Petroc's  Return,  an 
adaptation  of  the  English  novel  by  an  English  nun;  Brief  Music; 
Kamiano,  a  play  about  Damien;  Murder  in  a  Nunner}',  an  adaptation 
of  the  English  novel  by  Eric  Shepherd. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lavery,  how  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  first  went  to  Hollywood  in  1934.     I  remained  there 

until  approximately  1937.     I  was  in  the  East  from  1937  to  1941.     I 

returned  to  Hollywood  in  1941.     I  remained  in  1942.     I  came"  back 

East.     I  returned  in  1943.     And  I  have  been  there  since. 

And  let  me  volunteer,  if  permitted,  that  I  am  now  serving  my  third 

term 

JNIr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  Lavery. 
Mr.  Lavery.  All  right,  Mr.  Stripling,  " 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  answer  this  question 

]\Ir.  Lavery.  Surely. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Without  an  outburst:  Are  you  a  member  of  the 
Screen  Writers'  Guild? 

Mr.  Laatery.  Well,  I  wanted  to  volunteer  the  information  that  I 
am  both  a  member  and  serving  my  third  term  as  president. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  see  anything  incriminating  in  any  way  to 
a  person  answering  whether  or  not  he  is  a  member  of  the  Screen 
Writers'  Guild? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Well,  Mr.  Stripling,  as  one  lawyer  to  another,  you 
know  that  is  something  for  each  individual  to  decide  for  himself. 
I  can  only  answer  for  myself.  For  myself,  I  am  delighted  and  proud 
to  answer  that  I  am  president  of  the  guild,  to  which  I  have  been  greatly 
devoted. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  isn't  it  true  that  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild 
is  the  one  big  writers'  organization  or  union  within  the  motion-picture 
industry? 

Mr.  La\t5RY.  We  are  the  only  one.  We  are  the  recognized  bargain- 
ing agency  for  screen  writers  in  Hollywood,  and  our  position  there 
corresponds,  roughly,  to  that  of  the  Dramatists'  Guild  in  New  York  or 
the  Radio  Writers'  Guild  or  the  Authors'  League.  As  a  matter  of 
fact,  we  are  afRliated  with  the  Authors'  League  of  America. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  explain  to  the  committee  why  there  is  so 
much  reluctance  on  the  part  of  the  previous  witnesses  to  answer  the 
simple  question  as  to  whether  or  not  they  belong  to  a  recognized  guild 
in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Lavkry.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  can't  go  into  their  minds.  I  don't 
know.  But  I  would  like  to  remind  the  Chair  at  this  time  that,  in 
order  to  expedite  the  discussion.  I  would  appreciate  the  opportunity 
to  make  several  very  brief •  motions 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  421 

Mr.  Striplixg.  This  is  not  a  discussion,  Mr.  Lavery.  It  is  for 
the  purpose  of  obtaining  facts. 

Mr.  Lavery.  Well,  I  stand  corrected. 

If  I  might  make  several  brief  motions,  I  assiire  you,  Mr.  Chairman, 
I  don't  intend  to  argue  them.  I  mean  it  is  merel}^  to  have  a  notation 
for  the  record,  with  or  without  your  jiermission — I  mean,  if  you  rule 
"no"  on  them  it  is  perfectly  all  right  with  me. 

The  Chairman.  May  I  ask  if  these  are  motions  to  be  made  by  you 
as  a  witness  or  motions  to  be  made  by  you  as  an  attorney,  or  moticms 
made  by  your  organization? 

Mr.  La\'ery.  Well,  I  guess  it  is  all  three,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  am  here 
today  in  about  three  capacities.  I  am  here  as  myself,  as  counsel  for 
myself,  and  as  the  only  authorized  spokesman  for  the  Screen  Writers' 
Guild  of  Hollywood,  which  has  been  mentioned  considerably  by  wit- 
nesses before  this  committee. 

So,  on  my  ow^n  behalf,  in  various  capacities,  I  simply  wanted  to 
make  one  or  two  requests  of  the  Chair,  to  straighten  out  the  record. 
If  the  rule  is  "no,"  why  we  can  simply  go  on  with  the  examination. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  should  like  to  state  Mr.  Lavery 
is  here  in  response  to  a  subpena 

Mr.  LA\a:RY.  Mr.  Chairman 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment — calling  for  his  appearance,  rather.^^ 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  do  want  to  say  that  I  would  be  here,  whether  you 
gave  me  a  subpena  or  not. 

The  Chairman.  I  just  want  to  find  out  whether  these  motions  are 
pertinent  to  the  inquiry  of  alleged  communism  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  think  so,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  wouldn't  offer  them  if 
they  weren't.     I  mean,  they  are  right  specifically  on  the  nose. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  them  in  writing? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Well,  the  motions  are  oral,  but  a  statement  that  I 
would  like  to  offer  I  have  here  in  writing. 

The  Chairman.  Which  do  you  want  to  offer  first — the  motion  or 
the  statement  ? 

I\Ir.  Lavery.  I  would  like  to  offer  the  motions  first,  if  I  might. 

The  Chairman.  All  right;  without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  LA^^;RY.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

My  first  request  for  the  record  will  be :  Would  the  committee  recall 
to  the  stand  Mr.  Jack  L.  Warner,  of  Warner  Bros.  Studios,  and  sub- 
pena all  pertinent  records  of  Warner  Bros.  Studios,  in  order  to  estab- 
lish by  Mr.  Warner's  own  records  that  it  w^as  at  my  request  and  not 
Mr.  Warner's  that  our  association  was  dissolved  early  in  1946. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  move  the  committee  take  the 
motion  under  consideration. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Lavery.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  ask  whether,  in  the 
course  of  the  examination  by  Mr.  Stripling,  I  may  have  the  oppor- 
tunity to  reply  specifically  to  serious  misstatements  of  fact  made  by 
three  witnesses  last  week.  I  refer  specifically  to  Mr.  Jack  Moffitt, 
who  made  serious  misinterpretations  about  a  plaj^  on  Congress  which 
I  have  written.  I  refer  specifically  to  Mr.  Morrie  Ryskind,  who  said 
that  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild  under  my  domination,  under  my  leader- 
ship, was  Communist  domination;  and  I  refer  Aery  specifically  to  Mr. 

**  See  appendix,  p.  54G,  for  exhibit  S.S. 


422  COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Rupert  Iluglies.  wlio  made  the  serious  implication,  if  not  direct  charge, 
that  I  "was  a  Comininiist  masquerading  as  a  Catliolic.  And  as  a 
Catholic  I  ask  llie  opjjortunity  to  estahlish  in  this  record  how  far  from 
the  truth  Mr.  Hughes  is.  Will  I  have  the  opportunity  to  reply  specifi- 
cally to  those  three  witnesses? 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  the  Chair  will  give  you  per- 
mission to  reply  to  those.  That  is  just  why  you  are  here.  Charges 
have  been  made  against  you  and  against  your  organization. 

i\Ir.  La  VERY.  Thank  you.  Mi-.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  We  subpenaed  the  other  side,  and  you  are  the  only 
one  to  date,  however,  willing  to  come  here  and  be  very  frank.  And 
it  is  very  refreshing.     I  will  tell  you  that. 

Mr.  Lavery.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  would  like  to  offer  in  evidence  at  this  time,,  if  I  may,  an  official 
transcript  of  the  testimony  which  I  gave  to  Senator  Jack  Tenney  and 
the  California  Joint  Fact  Finding  Committee  on  Un-American  Ac- 
tivities on  October  7,  1046,  drawing  particular  attention  of  the  com- 
mittee to  page  28-3  of  the  printed  text  of  the  rei)ort  and  in  particular 
the  remarks  of  Chairman  Tenney,  who  at  that  time  Avrote  into  the 
record  of  this  committee  that  in  his  opinion 

The  Chairman.  Let  me  ask  you :  Does  this  have  anything  to  do 
with  these  motions  ? 

Mr.  LA^^RY.  Oh,  this  is  part.  In  other  words,  I  am  moving  to  offer 
in  the  record  as  evidence  before  this  committee  the  official  transcript 
before  a  comparable  committee  in  the  State  of  California,  in  October 
1946,  and  drawing  particular  attention  to  the  issue:  Am  I  a  Com- 
munist, or  is  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

(The  matter  referred  to  is  as  follows :) 

T>os  Angeles.  Calif.,  Monday,  Octohek  7,  1946,  10  A.  M. 

Chairman  Tenney.  The  committee  will  come  to  order.  Let  the  record  show 
that  Ave  have  Senator  Nelson  S.  Dilworth,  of  Ileniet ;  Assemblyman  Harold 
Sawallisch,  of  Richmond;  Assemblyman  Fred  H.  Kraft,  of  San  Diego;  and 
Assemblyman  .Tack  Thompson,  of  San  .Jose.  I  think  probably  we  had  better 
swear  the  stenographers  first,  who  are  going  to  i-ejiort  the  hearing. 

(Whereupon  Byron  Oyler  and  Carey  S.  Cowart  were  sworn  in  as  official 
reporters.) 

Chairman  Tenney.  For  whom  are  yon  reporting? 

Mr.  .lAMEs  Pino.  Mr.  Clifton  Clay  employed  me  for  IMr.  Emmet  Lavery. 

Chairman  Tenney.  And  yon  are  repoi'ting  for  whom? 

Miss  Ellene  Rasmussen.  Westwood  Hills  Press. 

Chairman  Tenney.  The  Westwood  Hills  Press.  You  are  reporting  directly 
for  the  newspaper  ;  is  that  correct? 

INIiss  Rasmussen.  I'^es. 

Chairman  Tenney.  It  is  up  to  the  committee  as  to  what  we  should  do  with 
reference  to  the  otlier  reporter.  The  committee  generally  has  not  pursued  the 
policy  of  permitting  any  other  reporters  to  take  the  transcript.  What  is  your 
pleasure? 

Senator  Dilworth.  I  move  we  limit  the  transcripts  to  the  one  official  transcript 
by  the  sw<»rn  reporters  on  the  part  of  the  committee. 

]Mr.  Sawalliscit.   I  second  the  motion. 

Chairman  Tenney.  Will  you  include  in  that  motion  the  reporter  for  the 
newspaper? 

Senator  Dilworth.  There  is  no  objection  to  newspaper  reporters.  I  doTi't 
care  how  they  take  it  down. 

Cliairman  Tenney.  You  are  reporting  for  the  newspaper:   is  that  corre<'t? 

Miss  Rasmitssen.  Will  you  ask  Mr.  McNitt? 

Chairman  Tenney.  Yes. 


COMMUNISM    IX   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  423 

^Ir.  Fkank  McNitt.  Yes.  We  asked  her.  She  reported  for  us  when  your 
committee  had  the  hearing  hxst  Jan\iai-y. 

Chairman  Ticnnky.  Slie  is  u  bona  fide  reporter? 

Mr.  McNiTT.  Ye.s. 

Chairman  Tennky.  For  the  newspaper ;  is  that  right? 

Mr.  McNiTT.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Dilwokth.  What  newspaper  is  it? 

Chairman  Tknney.  Westwood  Hills  Press.     Yovir  name. 

Miss  Rasmussen.  Rasmussen. 

Chairman  Tenney.  Your  first  name? 

Miss  Rasmussen.  EUene. 

Chairman  Tennett.  Miss  Ellene  Rasmussen? 

Miss  Rasmussen.  Yes. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  May  I  be  heard  on  the  motion?  My  name  is  Lavery.  I  am  a 
witness  hereunder  subpena.  I  did  not  know  what  the  procedure  of  the  com- 
mittee was.  I  had  hoped  for  permission  to  have  a  full  transcript  taken  of  such 
testimony  of  mine  that  the  committee  might  hear  on  the  assumption  the  com- 
mittee hears  so  much  testimony  that  probably  in  the  final  report  I  could  not 
get  the  full  context  that  I  would  like. 

Chairman  Tenney.  May  I  say  to  you,  Mr.  Lavery,  the  committee  has  made  it 
a  policy  tor  years  that  any  person  subpenaed  who  ma.y  wish  to  have  a  copy  of 
the  transcript  may  make  an  arrangement  with  the  official  reporter  and  get  it 
in  that  manner.    That  is  the  official  policy. 

Mr.  Laveky'.  Of  course  you  have  to  wait  a  long  time  to  get  it. 

Chairman  Tenney.  No. 

Mr.  Laveky.  Can  you  get  it  on  48  hours'  notice? 

Chairman  Tenney'.  No;  that  is  up  to  the  reporter.  The  committee  is  always 
anxious  to  get  the  report  as  soon  as  possible.  You  may  make  arrangements 
with  the  official  reporter,  if  the  motion  carries,  and  receive  it  in  that  manner. 

Mr.  Lavery.  Thank  you. 

Chairman  Tenney'.  It  has  been  moved  and  seconded,  moved  by  Senator  Dil- 
worth  and  seconded  by  Mr.  Sawallisch,  that  all  reporters  save  the  official  re- 
porters of  the  committee  and  those  for  the  press,  be  excluded  from  taking 
testimony.  Is  there  any  discussion?  [No  response.]  All  tliose  in  favor  signify 
by  saying  "Aye."'  Contrary-minded?  So  ordered.  We  are  sorry.  You  will 
have  to  leave.     [Mr.  Pino  leaves  the  room.] 

All  right,  Mr.  Combs,  will  you  call  your  list  of  witnesses  subpenaed  for  this 
morning. 

Mr.  Combs.  ^Ir.  Lavery  is  here.  Ellenore  Abowitz?  William  Bidner?  Albee 
Slade.    Elliott  Wax. 

Mr.  W^\x.  Here. 

Mr.  Combs.  John  Stapp.     C.  B.  Horrell. 

Chairman  Tenney-.  1  think  he  is  supeuaed  for  2  o'clock. 

Mr.  Combs.  1  think  that  is  all  for  this  morning,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Chairman   Tenney.  All   right.     Call  your  first  witness,   Mr.   Combs. 

Mr.  Combs.  Mr.  Lavery. 

Chairman  Texxky.  V.'ill  you  be  sworn,  sir?     (Witness  sworn.) 

Emmet  C  La\i:iiy,  called  as  a  witness  by  the  committee,  having  been  first  duly 
sworn,  testified  as  follows  : 

By  Chairman  Tenney  : 

Q.  Will  you  state  your  full  name,  Mr.  Lavery? — ^A.  Emmet  G.  Lavery. 

Q.  Your  occupation? — A.  I  am  a  writer  by  profession.  I  was  a  lawyer,  admit- 
ted to  the  bar  of  the  State  of  New  York  in  1925. 

Q.  Are  you  presently  employed? — A.  I  am  a  free-lance  writer  employed  in 
the  making  of  motion  pictures,  and  I  am  also  a  playwright. 

Chairman  Tenney.  All  right,  Mr.  Combs. 

Mr.  Combs.  I  might  state  for  the  record,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  committee  did 
not  issue  a  subpena  for  Mr.  Lavery  because  it  suspected  him  of  any  subversive 
activities  nor  because  it  had  any  information  or  suspicion  that  he  was  affiliated 
with  any  organization  such  as  the  Communist  Party  or  any  of  its  component 
subdivisions.  The  sub^Dena  was  issued  to  Mr.  Lavery  more  for  informative 
purposes. 

The  Witness.  May  I  say  for  the  record  I  am  delighted  at  the  opportunity 
to  testify  liefore  the  committee  and  I  hoi)e  that  the  chairman  of  the  conunittee 
will  find  it  possible  to  i-ead  into  the  record,  in  lieu  of  an  opening  statement,  a 
telegram  which   I   sent   him  yesterday. 


424  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Combs.  I  will  introduce  the  telegram  as  an  pxhihit  in  cormcction  with  your 
testimony. 

The  Witness.  That  is  perfectly  satisfactory. 

Mr.  Combs.  And  attach  it  to  your  testimony. 

The  Witness.  That  is  all  right. 

Chairman  Tenney.  I  helieve,  Mr.  Combs,  it  was  the  policy  of  the  committee 
in  the  past  not  to  accept  statements  except  as  they  are  tiled  with  tiie  committee. 
I  believe  we  will  be  able  to  bring  out  from  Mr.  Lavery  everything  you  say  in 
the  telegiam. 

The  Witness.  May  I  renew  my  request  for  the  sake  of  the  record?  I  have 
asked  that  the  formal  statement  I  addressed  to  the  chairman  of  the  committee 
be  introduced  into  the  record  along  with  my  testimony. 

Chairman  Tenney.  All  such  statements  will  be  accepted  and  filed  with  the 
committee. 

The  Witness.  I  don't  want  it  filed.     I  want  it  in  the  minutes. 

Mr.  Combs.  It  will  be. 

The  Witness.  I  want  it  in  the  public  minutes.     I  want  it  in  the  full  report. 

Chairman  Tenney.  It  will  be  attached  to  the  committee  records. 

The  Witness.  That  is  not  what  I  asked.  I  asked  will  it  appear  in  the  printed 
text  of  the  committee's  final  report. 

Chairman  Tenney.  We  cannot  assure  you  of  anything  like  that. 

The  Witness.  That  is  why  I  am  renewing  my  motion.  If  you  deny  it  for 
the  record  that  is  all  right,  but  I  want  it  clear. 

Chairman  Tenney.  We  want  everything  in  the  record  under  oath. 

The  Witness.  I  will  repeat  it  under  oath  right  now. 

Chairman  Tenney.  It  has  been  the  policy  of  the  committee  to  accept  any 
statement  which  you  wish  filed.  It  will  be  accepted  and  we  will  have  it  as  part 
of  our  record,  but  whether  it  will  be  in  the  report  is  a  matter  for  the  committee 
to  decide. 

The  Witness.  That  is  perfectly  true. 

Chairman  Tenney.  Continue  Mr.  Combs. 

By  Mr.  Combs  : 

Q.  Mr.  Lavery,  your  name  is  Emmet  G.  Lavery? — A.  Tiiat  is  right. 

Q.  Where  did  you  reside  prior  to  coming  to  California? — A.  I  was  born  and 
resided  for  a  good  many  years  in  Poughkeepsie,  N.  Y.,  where  I  was  president  of 
the  board  of  aldermen  for  two  terms.  I  was  city  editor  of  the  Poughkeepsie 
Sunday  Courier  for  10  years.  I  practiced  law  in  the  city  of  Poughkeepsie.  My 
family  lived  there  for  many  years. 

Q.  About  when  did  you  first  come  to  California? — A.  I  first  came  to  California 
in  1934. 

Q.  You  have  resided  here  ever  since? — A.  With  a  few  intervals  here.  I  was 
here  from  1935  to  1937.  I  was  in  the  East  from  1937  to  1941.  I  returned  here  in 
1941  and  liave  l)een  here  ever  since,  with  the  exception  of  a  few  months  in  the 
East  at  the  end  of  1942  and  the  early  part  of  1943. 

Q.  Are  you  affiliated  with  the  Screen  Writer's  Guild? — A.  I  am  serving  my 
second  term  as  jiresident  of  the  Screen  Writer's  Guild. 

Q.  You  have  been  affiliated  with  it  for  many  years? — A.  Yes;  I  first  joined  the 
Screen  Writers'  Guild  when  I  came  to  California. 

Q.  You  are  familiar,  I  am  sure,  with  an  organization  known  as  the  Hollywood 
Writers  Mobilization  Committee? — A.  I  was  their  wartime  chairman. 

Q.  And,  of  course,  you  are  acquainted  with  Mr.  Robert  Rossen? — A.  Yes;  I 
know  Robert  Rossen. 

Q.  And  John  Howard  Lawson? — A.  Yes:  I  know  John  Howard  Law.son. 

Q.  Are  you  acquainted  with  Pauline  Lauber,  sometimes  known  as  Pauline 
Lauber  Finn?— A.  Yes  :  I  know  Pauline  Lauber. 

Q.  You  knew  her  in  1945  ;  did  you  not? — A.  She  was  secretary  of  the  Hollywood 
Writers  Mobilization  at  the  time  I  was  chairman. 

Q.  That  was  in  1945? — A.  Partly  in  1945.  It  may  al.so  have  been  in  1944.  I 
retired  as  chairman  of  mobilization  in  .lanuary  or  February  1946.  It  was  1945 
when  I  was  in  mobilization. 

Q.  Does  she  still  hold  any  official  position  with  mobilization,  to  your  knowl- 
edge?— A.  I  think  she  is  still  executive  secretary.  At  the  moment  I  don't  happen 
to  be  an  officer  of  mobilization,  but  I  believe  she  is  still  its  executive  secretary. 

Q.  Do  you  know  how  much  she  received  as  salary  at  the  time  she  was  secretary 
in  1945? — A.  That  I  can't  say  nnw.  I  could  have  told  you  then,  but  it  is  nearly 
a  year  since  I  have  been  off. 


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Q.  From  what  source  did  the  funds  come  from  which  her  salary  was 
paid? — A.  Our  revenue  in  the  mobilization  came  through  several  sources.  During 
the  war  years  the  Screen  Writers'  Guild  of  Hollywood  contributed  tlie  sum  of 
JflO.OOU  annually.  I  think  they  did  that  for  2  years.  There  was  a  slight  extra 
appropriation.  I  think  we  might  have  contributed  as  much  as  $24,000.  It  was 
our  way  of  dt)ing  war  service  work.  There  were  other  sources  of  revenue  for 
the  mobilization.  The  OWI  made  available  certain  expense  moneys  in  return 
lor  the  preparation  of  scripts.  The  Los  Angeles  Community  Chest  last  year,  I 
believe,  was  a  cosponsor  of  the  work  of  the  mobilization. 

Q.  How  much  did  you  receive  from  the  Community  Chest,  Mr.  La  very? — A.  I 
can't  tell  you  oft'hand. 

Q.  Was  it  in  the  neighborhood  of  twenty  some  thousand  dollars? — A.  I  think 
it  was  in  two  sums.  It  might  have  gone  as  high  as  that,  but  I  don't  think  that 
high  in  any  one  period.  It  seems  to  me  the  initial  appropriation  was  around 
$13,00U  or  $10,000.    1  may  be  wrong  about  that. 

Chairman  Tenney.  I  think  that  is  correct  for  6  months. 

The  Witness.  Yes ;  for  a  6-month  period. 

By  Mr.  Combs  : 

Q.  Was  any  portion  of  that  sum  allocated  to  the  payment  of  Pauline  Lauber 
Finn's  salary  as  executive  secretary? — A.  Now,  I  can't  say  as  to  that.  There 
were  various  sources  of  revenue.  What  sources  paid  what  bills  I  couldn't  say 
unless  I  had  the  accounts  before  me. 

Q.  Are  you  acquainted  with  her  background  at  all? — A.  No,  beyond  the  fact 
that  she  was  a  very  capable  secretary.  In  the  mobilization  as  in  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild  we  ask  neither  the  political  nor  the  religious  atiiliation  of  any  of 
our  employees  or  members. 

Q.  I  understand  th;it,  but  the  question  was  to  test  your  own  familiarity  with 
her  background. — A.  No  ;  I  don't  know  what  her  background  is. 

Q.  Did  she  go  under  the  name  of  Pauline  Lauber  or  Pauline  Lauber  Finn  at 
the  time  she  was  employed  by  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization? — A.  I  believe 
her  professional  name  was  Pauline  Lauber,  but  we  also  knew  her  under  her  mar- 
ried name,  Pauline  Lauber  Finn. 

Q.  What,  generally,  were  her  duties  as  executive  secretary  of  mobilization, 
Mr.  Lavery? — A.  The  correlation  of  committee  work,  the  supervision  of  office 
detail,  duties  not  unlike,  say,  the  executive  secretary  of  the  chamber  of  com- 
merce. 

Q.  Would  she  be  the  official  who  would  have  charge  of  the  mailing  list  of  the 
Hollywood  Mobilization? — A.  Only  incidentally. 

Q.  She  would  have  access  to  it,  would  she  not? — A.  Anybody  on  the  staff 
would  have  access  to  it  mechanically,  but  the  mobilization,  no  less  than  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild,  has  always  been  very  careful  and  very  zealous  about  the  use  of 
its  membership  list. 

Q.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  used  the 
mailing  list  of  any  other  organization? — A.  I  have  no  knowledge  that  they  did. 

Q.  At  least  you  had  no  knowledge  of  that  fact  ac  the  time  that  you  were  presi- 
dent of  the  organization? — A.  No ;  but  I  remember  when  we  premiered  the  Town 
Meeting  discussion  of  Tomorrow  the  World,  and  we  wanted  to  reach  as  many 
ipeople  as  possible,  we  may  have  gone  to  a  wide  variety  of  people  in  Hollywood  and 
asked  them  to  come — whether  or  not  we  had  access  to  their  mailing  list  in  the 
course  of  that,  I  don't  know. 

Q.  What  position  did  Pauline  Lauber  Finn  hold  in  connection  with  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild? — A.  I  don't  think  Pauline  Lauber  had  any  connection  per  .se  with 
the  Screen  Writers  Guild  except  that  the  Guild  was  definitely  a  sponsor  of  the 
work  of  the  mobilization  because  that  was  the  channel  through  which  we  did  our 
war  service  work  and  Mrs.  Lauber  was  executive  secretary  of  the  mobilization. 

Q.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  she  ever  held  any  official  position  with  the 
Hollywood  Independent  Citizens  Committee  of  the  Arts,  Sciences  and  Profes- 
sions?— A.  I  don't  know,  but  I  don't  recall  her  name  as  officer  of  that  committee. 

Q.  Is  your  acquaintanceship  with  Mr.  John  Howard  Lawson  casual  or  intimate? 
— A.  I  would  say  that  it  was  casual,  but  it  has  extended  over  a  long  period  of 
years.    It  seems  to  me  I  have  known  Jack  Lawson  at  least  10  years. 

Q.  You  didn't  know  him  in  New  York?— A.  No;  I  didn't  know  Jack  Lawson 
in  the  East. 

Q.  Is  that  a  social  acquaintance  or  professional  or  both,  Mr.  Lavery? — A.  It  is 
definitely  a  professional  acquaintance.  I  met  Mr.  Lawson  as  I  know  Mr.  Rossen 
and  as  I  know  most  of  the  people  in  my  profession.  I  know  them  as  lawyers 
know  lawvers.    I  know  them  through  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 


426  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Q.  You  have  never  visited  in  Mr.  Lawson's  home? — A.  No;  I  have  never  been 
a  visitor  in  Mr.  Lawson's  home. 

Q.  You  are  a  member  of  the  executive  council  of  the  Hollywood  Independent 
Citizens  Conmiittee,  are  you  not? — A.  I  was,  briefly.  I  was  a  member  of  the 
council  for  some  time.  I  was  elected  to  the  executive  committee,  and  the  pressure 
of  other  work  i)revented  me  from  servinu:  on  the  executive  committee,  and  I 
resigned  irom  the  executive  committee  of  the  Hollywood  Independent  Citizens 
Connnittee,  but  I  am  still  a  member  of  the  committee  generally. 

Q.  You  are,  I  see.  Do  you  recall  in  Octob.n-  l!i48,  that  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization  and  the  University  of  California  at  Los  Angeles  jointly  sponsored 
a. writers  congress? — A.  Definitely;  I  was  a  speaker  at  it. 

Q.  Did  you  have  anything  to  do  with  making  the  initial  arrangements  for  that 
congress? — A.  I  don't  knc^w  what  you  mean  l)y  •"initial  arrangements,"  hut  I 
had  quite  a  little  to  do  with  the  plamiing  of  the  schedule  as  it  finally  worked  out. 

(}.  No;  let  me  clarify  that.  By  "initial  arrangeinents'"  I  mean  contact  with  the 
faculty  at  the  University  of  California  at  Uos  Angeles  for  the  purpose  of  initiating 
the  congress. — A.  I  don't  think  I  sat  in  on  the  preliminary  conferences. 

Q.  Now,  there  were  some  articles  that  appeared  in  the  Hollywood  Citizens 
News  concerning  yourself.    I  don't  recall  just  when  they  were.    Ytm  are  familiar 
with  them,  are  you  not? — A.  No;  not  unless  you  specify  the  year. 
•   Q.  Well,  this  year. — A.  I  must  say  I  have  not  seen-them. 

Q.  You  haven't  seen  them? — A.  B  it  like  Mr.  Jiistice  Holmes.  I  get  a  great 
deal  of  comfort  out  of  not  reading  the  newspapers  sometimes. 

Q.  Did  you  see  any  articles  last  year  accusing  you  of  being  affiliated  with  a 
subversive  organization? — A.  I  didn't  see  them  in  the  Citizens  News.  Yet  I  am 
well  aware  that  those  slanders  have  been  repeated  on  many  occasions,  and  I 
recently  threatened  to  sue  for  lib?l  the  editor  of  the  Plollywood  Reporter  if  he 
did  not  retract  them,  and  as  a  result  of  which  at  his  own  expense  he  published 
a  two  full  page  advertisement  in  which  he  printed  my  complete  letter  of  denial, 
and  my  aflSrmation  of  political  and  religious  faith  and  my  reaffirmation  of  the 
fact  that  I  have  never  had  anything  to  do  with  Marxian  communism. 

Q.  Mr.  Lavery,  about  when  did  those  articles  in  the  Hollywood  Reporter 
appear"? — A.  R?cently  there  have  been  a  series.  Actually  Mr.  Wilk^rson,  the 
editor  of  that  papn*  has  been  embarked  on  that  project  tor  about  10  years.  I 
just  happened  to  be  the  momentary  objective  with  a  few  other  people.  I  might 
say  in  passing  that  INIiss  Myrna  Loy  is  suing  him  for  $1,000,000. 

Q.  That  is  in  connection  with  the  Matthew  Woll  articles? — A.  Yes.  It  is  just 
as  libelous  as  what  he  printed  about  me  except  his  publication  of  the  retraction 
lessened  the  damage  I  could  collect  in  the  law  courts,  and  that  is  why  he 
published  it. 

Q.  Is  your  suit  still  pending? — A.  I  see  no  point  at  the  moment  in  suing  him 
unless  he  reiterates  the  libel. 

Q.  Your  suit A.  I  never  filed  suit.    I  filed  a  demand  for  retraction.    Under 

the  laws  of  California  since  he  published  the  retraction  my  damage  is  lessened; 
therefore,  I  have  no  reason  to  sue  him  at  the  moment. 

Q    Have  you  ever  been  a  subscrib?r  to  the  People's  Daily  World? — A.  No. 

Q.  You  have  no  sympathy  with  IMarxian  doctrines  at  all,  have  you? — A.  None 
at  all.  I  have  repeated  that  on  many  occasions  and  I  am  delighted  to  do  it  now. 
Let  me  say  parenthetically  that  the  difference  between  me  and  other  jieople  in 
Hollywood  is  that  I  oppose  communism  in  another  way.  I  think  the  answer 
to  the  Communist  and  INIarxian  philnsoiihy  is  to  livi^  a  better  philosophy.  Other 
people  go  at  it  differently.    That  is  my  theory. 

Chairman  Tenney.  I  would  just  like  to  interrupt  a  second  there.  Mr.  Lavery, 
I  am  glad  to  hear  you  make  that  statement.    To  elaborate  on  it  f6r  the  record 

The  Witness.  I  will  be  delighted. 

Ciiairman  Texney.  I  don't  know  how  faunliar  you  are  with  Marxian  philosophy, 
but  I  think  you  should  know,  being  a  writer,  that  they  hate  nothing  more  than 
a  reformer.  A  reformer  is  almost  as  bad  as  a  Trotskyite.  and  consequently,  to 
make  things  better,  while  that  would  be  desirable,  would  not  appease  them  in 
their  activities  for  the  destruction  of  our  Government  and  its  institutions.  Isn't 
that  correct? 

The  Witness.  I  would  be  delighted  to  elaborate  the  point.  Let  me  .say,  frankly, 
that  I  take  my  social  essays  from  the  Gospel  of  the  Apostles  and  not  from  the 
essays  of  Karl  jMarx.  In  particular  I  take  my  social  essays  from  the  encyclicals 
of  Leo  XIII.  The  Catholic  Church  has  a  broad  affirmative  social  program  which 
is  rather  far  reaching,  very  progressive,  and  very  democratic.  T  believe  in  it 
very  much.     To  make  it  more  concrete,  my  approach  to  the  field  of  social  action 


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is  identical  witli  that  of  people  such  ."rs  Archbishop  Liicey,  of  San  Antonio ;  Bishop 
Haas,  of  Wisconsin ;  Bishop  Shiel.  of  Chicago.  They  believe,  and  I  balieve  the 
problem  at  the  moment  is  to  integrate  Cluistian  ideals,  Catholic  ideals,  broad 
virtQes  of  good  persuasion  in  the  broad  life  of  a  democi-atic  community.  I  see 
the  tuily  real  answer  to  Marxian  communism  is  a  live,  alert  deuKK-racy  which  is 
trying  to  put  in  efE<'Ct  its  own  social  program.  Tlie  reason,  frankly,  that  I  as  an 
individual  liave  never  had  any  great  enthusiasm  for  popular  crusades  against  the 
Communist  menace  is  because  I,  personally,  believe  in  this  town  the  menace  is 
very  small  and  that  if  we  confine  our  opposition  to  communism  to  public  speeches 
ami  public  crusades  we  simply  expose  ourselves  to  thp  dangers  that  Hitler  bnmght 
about  in  Germnny  where  your  arbitrarily  divide  sections  of  the  community,  align 
group  against  group.  You  face  that  futility  of  trying  to  decide  who  is  a  Com- 
munist and  who  is  not  and  what  you  mean  by  communism.  It  seems  to 'me  the 
great  clsallenge  of  the  moment  is  to  live  a  democ-ratic  life  which  offers  our  p;^ople 
everything  they  can  legitimately  desire.  And  so  I  have  tried  to  apply  myself  in 
my  life,  in  my  church,  and  in  my  plays,  particularly  my  current  play  on  Mr.  Jus- 
tice Holmes — to  which  I  invite  this  committee  to  come  when  it  plays  in  Los 
Angeles — I  believe  the  challenge  is  to  get  out  and  work  in  the  market  place  and 
live  a  truly  American  life.  I  don't  see  much  good  to  b:^  achieved  by  debating 
generalities,  which  is  very  easy,  and  just  saying  '"Down  with  communism." 

Chairman  Tennett.  May  I  ask  one  other  question  in  connection  with  that. 

Q.  As  you  watch  tlie  aggressive  impei-ialist  policy  of  Sovh-t  Russia  by  diplo- 
matic moves  backed  up  by  military  threats  in  its  encirclement  of  all  the  border 
countries  in  Europe  and  see  that  paralysis  creeping  over  Europe,  how  would  you 
combat  that?— A.  I  still  think.  Senator,  the  answer  is  to  live  a  better  life  at  home 
and  live  a  better  life  abroad.  I  think  the  challenge  to  civilization  at  ths  moment 
is  to  put  the  greatest  distance  possible  between  World  War  II  and  World  War  III. 
I  hope  with  all  my  heart  that  we  do  not  have  war  with  Russia. 

Q.  And  so  do  we  all. — A.  If  we  had  war  with  Russia  many  of  us  would  have 
naturally  to  stand  for  tho.«:e  American  principles  tliat  we  believe  in. 

Q.  Let  me  interrupt  you  there. — A.  But  I  think,  Senator,  lire  point  you  are 
getting  at  and  the  point  I  want  to  hit  is  this:  How  do  we  increase  that  peace 
span  between  World  War  II  and  World  War  I'lV  If  popular  irritations,  if  popu- 
lar dangers  are  magnified  be.vond  their  true  scope,  W3  are  nf»t  adult  people  trying 
to  put  the  greatest  distance  between  AVorld  War  TI  and  AVorld  War  III.  I  believe 
with  the  Pope  it  is  a  great  time  for  prayer.  People  who  are  church-going  people 
should  pray  for  peace.  And,  incidentally,  whether  you  realize  it  or  not,  in 
Catholic  churches  every  Sunday  for  many,  many  years  we  have  prayed  for  peace 
with  a  large  section  of  Russia. 

Q.  That  is  quite  laudable. — A.  May  I  point  out  how  we  do  it.  At  the  end  of 
Mass  there  is  a  prayer  inserted  by  one  of  the  Popes  some  years  back  for  a  reunion 
with  the  Orthodox  Russian  Church.  Every  Sunday  those  prayers  are  said  in 
every  Catholic  Church  the  world  over.  The  Catholic  Church  believes  and  works 
for  peace  with  Russia  and  so  do  I  if  I  can  get  it. 

Q.  Let  me  point  out  this  one  situation.  I  would  like  to  have  your  reaction  on 
that.  We  find  today  as  we  view  the  situation  in  Europe  the  identical  situation 
that  developed  under  Hitler,  the  encirclement  policy,  the  policy  of  aggression,  the 
declarations  that  we  are  not  going  to  make  war.  We  are  seeing  in  some  quarters 
the  same  type  of  appeasement  offered  to  Hitler.  Now,  do  you  feel  we  should  do 
the  same  thing  with  Stalin? — A.  Senator,  that  is  a  difficult  question.  If  I  were 
sitting  on  the  United  Nations  Council  it  would  not  b3  easy  to  give  an  answer 
to  that,  "Yes"  or  "No".  All  I  can  say  is  it  puts  us  on  the  alert  more  than  ever 
at  home  to  preserve  the  democratic  society  that  we  have.  Even  if  we  grant 
the  developing  situation  in  Europe  is  one  to  try  the  patience  of  saints  and  great 
men,  still  in  trying  to  get  them  remedied  it  .seems  to  me  that  we  throw  in  the 
sponge  prematurely.  If  in  order  to  prepare  for  an  emergency,  a  contingency  that 
has  not  yet  happened,  we  begin  at  home  to  apply  the  principles  of  thought  con- 
trol to  smooth  everything  out  to  a  given  line,  it  seems  to  me  more  than  ever  we 
have  to  make  that  democratic  life  work  at  home  where  it  is  a  free  interplay  of 
opinions  that  makes  the  broad  variety  of  home  economic  life.  If  we  l)egin  to 
stamp  out  all  the  way  along  the  line  then  truly  we  have  gone  for  the  Stalin  pat- 
tern. It  seems  to  me  this  is  the  moment  when  we  need  the  greatest  diversity  in 
home  life  so  that  everybody  can  be  heard,  everybody  can  be  represented  in  the 
developing  pattern  of  American  life.  If  we  go  to  the  opposite  and  practically 
project  a  wartime  situation  when  there  is  no  war  it  seems  to  me  that  we  scrap 
the  democratic  pattern  even  before  we  have  come  to  this  alleged  struggle  over 
the  democratic  pattern. 


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Q.  Yon  recognize  communism  as  an  atheistic  evil  thing  in  the  ■world,  but  you 
minimize  its  importance  in  American  life;  is  that  substantially  it? — A.  Senator, 
tliat  is  almost  it,  but  not  quite.  Let's  take  a  section  of  life  I  know  about.  After 
all,  it  doesn't  get  us  very  far  if  we  sit  here  and  discuss  what  we  think  is  right 
or  wrong  about  the  European  situation.  We  are  not  on  the  spot  and  don't  know 
the  facts.  But  take  a  small  segment  of  American  life  that  I  know  something  about. 
I  have  always  said  and  I  shall  always  insist  that  communism  in  the  Hollywood 
scene  is  a  small  and  unimportant  minority,  and  the  vast  majority  of  people  who 
work  in  tlie  picture  industry  are  not  Communists,  have  nothing  to  do  with 
connuunism,  and  have  been  needlessly  smeared  in  Congress  and — — 

Chairman  Tenney.  Our  committee  has  said  that  many  times.  We  believe  the 
great  majority  of  people  are  loyal  Americans.  But  we  saw  in  the  developments 
before  Hitler,  the  fifth  columnists  marching  in  this  country  with  their  front 
organizations  and  extending  great  influence  just  as  the  Communists  do.  They 
follow  the  same  technique.  That  is  something  you  should  not  overlook.  But  we 
are  getting  too  far  afield  if  we  get  into  a  general  philosophic  discussion.  I  think 
you  had  better  proceed,  Mr.  Combs. 

By  Mr.  Combs: 

Q.  Mr.  Lavery,  you  have  been  engaged  in  writing  in  the  motion-picture  field 
ever  since  you  came  to  California? — A.  Oh,  yes — not  continuously — but  off  and 
on  since  1935. 

Q.  Were  you  ever  regularly  employed  by  any  one  studio? — A.  Oh,  j-es ;  many 
tioies.  When  I  first  came  out  here  I  was  under  contract  with  Metro-Goldwyn- 
Mayer.  Later  I  worked  for  Columbia.  When  I  returned  in  1941  I  was  under 
contract  with  RKO.  Since  then  I  have  been  under  contract  to  Walter  Wanger 
and  to  Warner  Bros.     At  the  moment  I  am  an  independent  free  lance. 

Q.  How  long  have  you  bee  a  free  lance,  about? — A.  Oh,  since  perhaps  February 
or  March  of  the  last  year,  previous  March. 

Q.  Is  your  anti-Communist  sentiment  generally  known  among  the  writing 
fraternity? — A.  I  think  so.  Nobody  in  Hollywood  motion  pictures — I  shouldn't 
say  nobody,  but  most  people  in  the  Hollywood  picture  industry  have  no  doubts 
as  to  where  I  stand. 

Q.  You  have  never  endeavored  to  make  it  a  secret,  have  you? — A.  All  I  can  say 
my  plays  speak  for  themselves. 

By  Chairman  Tenney  : 

Q.  You  do  know  that  John  Howard  Lawson  is  considered  one  of  the  outstanding 
Marxian  Communists  on  the  Pacific  coast? — A.  I  am  aware  that  that  has  been 
represented. 

Q.  I  don't  think  he  has  ever  denied  it. — A.  No;  I  don't  suppose  he  has. 

By  Mr.  Combs  : 

Q.  Mr.  Lavery,  have  you  ever  given  any  thought  to  the  allegation  that  has  been 
made  many,  many  times,  for  example,  by  Mr.  J.  Edgar  Hoover,  head  of  the 
Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation,  that  there  are  people  in  authority  such  as  the 
United  States  Attorney  General  and  others  say  that  while  the  Communist  Party 
in  the  United  States  may  have  given  up  its  idea  or  its  goal  of  achieving  a  revolu- 
tion in  this  country,  that  the  tndy  indoctrinated  Communist  minority,  that  hard, 
disciplined  corps  of  Communist  functionaries,  small  but  quite  potential  neverthe- 
less, are  of  considerable  use  to  the  Soviet  Union  along  the  lines  of  espionage? 
Have  you  ever  considered  that? — A.  Speculatively,  yes.  Dramatically  I  suppose 
we  have  all  considered  it. 

Q.  Let  me  call  your  attention  to  a  development  we  found  recently.  In  our 
Oakland  hearing  which  we  concluded  a  week  ago  Thursday  we  introduced  into 
the  record  photostatic  copies  of  the  minutes  of  the  executive  committee  of  an 
organization  known  as  the  International  Federation  of  Architects,  Engineers, 
Chemists,  and  Technicians,  a  CIO  union.  That  union  was  started  in  New  York 
in  1933.  Its  president  since  1937  has  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party, 
not  an  inferred  member,  but  the  proof  is  available  in  written  form.  The  national 
organizer  for  the  union,  Marcel  Surer,  ran  for  alderman  in  the  city  of  New  York 
T)n  the  Communist  Party  ticket.  The  organization,  locals  of  which  exist  in  this 
country  and  in  Canada,  comprise  scientists,  physicists,  chemists,  and  so  on.  In 
1943  in  Berkeley,  the  place  where  the  cyclotron  was  developed,  it  was  shown  by 
the  testimony  of  this  hearing  that  all  but  two  of  the  employees  in  the  radiation 
laboratory  were  members  of  this  local  union  in  Berkeley.  Coincident  with  the 
operation  of  the  local  in  Berkel.ey,  there  was  operating  in  San  Francisco  the  Call- 


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fornia  Labor  School,  typical  of  similar  oues,  analogous  to  the  People's  Educational 
Center,  ostensibly  a  liberal  institution  for  the  dissemination  of  learning  to  people 
in  the  trade-unions.  The  head  of  that  school,  Mr.  David  Jenkins,  testified  that 
be  had  never  been  affiliated  with  the  Communist  Party,  but  his  memory  was 
refreshed  by  a  copy  of  a  registration  ticket  in  New  York  which  he  admitted. 
He  also  admitted  he  had  been  arrested  for  Communist  agitation.  Witnesses 
testified  that  he  had  free  access  to  and  from  the  Soviet  Consulate  in  San  Fran- 
cisco. Teaching  in  the  California  Labor  School  of  which  he  was  the  director 
were  certain  atomic  scientists,  some  of  whom  have  access  to  the  over-all  picture 
of  atomic  development  in  the  United  States.  In  addition  to  that,  the'  committee 
analyzed  and  read  excerpts  from  the  Royal  Commissioner's  report  in  Canada 
where  proof  was  introduced  coming  from  the  Soviet  Embassy  itself  that  top 
atomic  secrets  had  been  obtained  in  Canada  and  in  this  country.  A  sample  of 
uranium  235  was  flown  directly  by  plane  from  Ottawa  to  Moscow,  and  Igor 
Suresko,  whose  job  it  was  to  code  and  decode  messages  between  the  ambassador's 
office  in  Ottawa  and  the  Soviet  Union,  took  the  official  documents  and  made  them 
available  for  the  Canadian  authorities.  I  don't  want  to  go  by  the  mark  by 
citing  all  this  matter  which,  of  course,  is  in  the  record  and  which  is  substan- 
tiated by  documentary  reports  and  sworn  evidence,  but  I  cite  it  to  show  how  in  a 
project  as  important  as  atomic  research  infiltration  can  exist,  not  because  the 
vast  majority  of  scientists  in  the  United  States  are  Communists,  but  where,  in  a 
strategic  place,  where  information  is  of  value,  a  very  small,  compact,  well- 
disciplined,  fanatical  group  can  do  untold  damage.  The  analogy  I  am  trying 
to  draw  is  this :  In  a  situation  like  Hollywood  which  exercises  such  a  profound 
and  widespread  influence  on  the  public,  a  long-range  strategy  of  penetrating  two 
unions  in  that  industry  with  the  idea  of  getting  control  can  be  productive  of 
equal  damage. — A.  May  I  meet  that  issue  head-on? 

Q.  Yes. — A.  I  don't  know  what  the  situation  is  in  Berkeley.  All  I  know  is  the 
situation  in  Hollywood. 

Q.  Yes. — A.  May  I  point  out  in  passing  that  the  guilds  and  unions  do  not  employ 
people  who  work  in  the  motion-picture  industry.  This  question  in  Hollywood 
gets  into  a  question  this  committee  should  not  duck  if  it  wants  to  follow  through. 
What  ijroducers  and  what  pictures?  Now,  look,  we  don't  employ  people.  If 
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  wants  to  employ  a  certain  writer,  or  Warner  Bros,  wants 
to  employ  a  certain  writer,  that  is  the  business  of  those  studios.  I  have  not  yet 
in  my  10  years'  experience  in  Hollywood  found  a  man  who  can  finance  what  you 
would  call  a  Communist  picture  through  Loms  B.  Mayer  or  Mr.  Sam  Katz  at 
Metro.  [Laughter.]  They  are  anything  but  communistic  gentlemen.  I  think  the 
Skourases,  the  Schenks,  and  Mr.  Zanuck  at  Twentieth  Century-Fox  are  as  alert 
aS  this  committee  to  not  allow  Marxian  doctrines  in  pictures.  It  begs  the  ques- 
tion to  ask,  What  are  the  guilds  or  the  unions  doing  about  this?  For  one  thing 
they  are  not  the  employers. 

Now,  another  thing.  You  are  probably  curious  why  I  do  not  share  immediately 
your  same  quality  of  alarm  when  a  minority  with  whom  we  do  not  agree  politi- 
cally is  active  in  this  or  that  union,  I  feel  the  danger  is  that  in  peacetime,  when 
we  are  not  yet  at  war,  of  trying  to  liquidate  a  minority  with  which  we  may  not 
agree  politically,  that  we  may  eliminate  a  lot  of  good  people  along  the  way. 
The  danger  of  generalization 

Chairman  Tenney.  May  I  interrupt. 

Q.  Mr.  Lavery,  as  you  probably  know,  I  am  past  president  of  local  47  of  the 
American  Federation  of  Musicians,  Los  Angeles.  At  the  time  I  was  president  we 
had  about  8.000  members  and  I  saw  65  Communists  take  over  the  local. — A.  All  I 
can  say  is  I  have  not  seen  any  Communists  take  over  the  Sci'een  Writers  Guild 
at  the  present  time.  And  as  this  committee  says,  my  own  Americanism  and  my 
faith  in  this  country  has  not  been  questioned  here.  Let  me  give  a  specific  example 
of  what  I  mean  by  the  danger  of  generalization  with  relation  to  minority  groups. 
At  the  risk  of  being  jjersonal  let  me  take  a  case  that  has  concerned  this  com- 
mittee here,  a  generalization  which  does  a  great  deal  of  damage  in  the  life  of  the 
community.  I  take  it  that  all  members  of  the  committee  are  familiar  with  the 
Sleepy  Lagoon  case.  People  v.  Henry  Lewis.  I  have  been  studying  the  reports 
of  this  committee  and  reading  them  with  a  great  deal  of  interest  for  a  long  time. 
I  have  not  been  able  to  find  the  page  yet.  but  maybe  counsel  can  give  it  to  me. 
where  this  committee  has  taken,  shall  we  say,  legislative  notice  of  the  fact  that 
what  it  cnlls  a  Conmiunist  cause  celebre  was  unanimously  reversed  by  the  district 
court  of  appeals,  three  iudges.  Thomas  P.  Wliite  writing  the  opinion — incidentally, 
a  Catholic,  of  whom  all  Catholics  are  proud.     Now,  nowhere  in  the  connnittee 

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reports,  even  in  the  104r»  minutes,  do  I  find  even  a  footnote  of  where  it  mentioned 
the  reversal. 

Mr.  CoMHS.  Excuse  me.     By  minutes  you  mean  the  1945  report? 

The  Witness.  I  mean  the  1045  report  to  the  assembly. 

By  Chairman  Tenney  : 

Q.  The  reversal  of  that  case  came  after  the  report  was  published. — -A.  Oh,  no. 
Let  me  correct  that.  Senator.  I  checked  that  yesterday.  The  reversal  of  the 
Sleepy  Lagoon  case  came  in  February  1944  and  the  volume  I  am  referring  to  is 
April  1945. 

Q.  That  was  the  date  it  was  submitted  to  the  legislature.  I  think  you  are  going 
far  afield  there  because  the  real  point  was  that  the  Communists  made  it  a  cause 
eelebre.— A.  But  aren't  you  going  to  give  the  judiciary  of  California  credit  for 
clearing  up  the  case?     The  defendants  were  released. 

Q.  Do  you  realize  many  of  them  were  arrested  again  and  convicted  of  other 
crimes? — A.  I  realize  rhat.  But  in  what  minutes  do  you  intend  to  footnote  the 
fact  that  the  Api)ellate  Court  of  California  found  the  evidence  was  so  slim  and 
flimsy  that  in  the  unanimous  nuuunist^we  find 
among  those  people  a  tendency  to  lend  their  names  as  sponsors  and  contributors 
to  a  vast  nuiltitude  of  assorted  organizations.  I  can  say  that  we  don't  find 
your  name  in  that  category. 

The  Witness.  However,  may  I  say  this :  The  reason  you  don't  find  my  name 
on  a  lot  of  those'  is  because  I  try  to  be  a  little  selective.  You  can  only  do  so 
much  in  24  hours.  But  in  this  oonmiunity  it  is  the  inclination  of  people  to  partici- 
pate in  a  wide  variety  of  community  activities,  which  I  think  is  very  com- 
mendable. It  would  be  much  more  to  tlie  shame  of  Hollywood  if  they  stayed 
at  home  in  their  ivory  towers  and  swimming  pools  and  took  no  concern  of  what 
VA'as  going  on  in  the  world. 


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,Mr.  CdMBs.  Our  criticism.  Mr.  Lavery— or.  at  least,  mine — is  not  to  the  num- 
bei-  that  they  alfiliate  with  ;  it  is  the  fact  they  do  not  pay  any  attention  to  investi- 
gating tile  or.iianizations  hefore  they  affiliate  with  them. 

Tlie  Witness,  ^lay  I  say  to  tliat,  we  are  now  living  at  a  time,  and  yon  must 
know  on  this  connnitlee,  we  have  a  tendency  to  accuse  being  Connmniist  anything 
we  may  not  liappen  to  agree  with  politically. 

Mr.  Combs.  Not  this  committee. 

Th(>  Witness.  No. 

Ciiairman  Tenxev.  I  want  to  interrupt  tiierc  to  say  you  are  a  Fascist  if  you 
don't  go  along  with  these  things,  too. 

The  Witness.  Well,  suppose  we  grant  that.  The  inclination  is  to  cal  la  man  a 
Fascist  in  some  quarters  as  readily  as  a  Communist  in  other  quarters.  I  would 
like  to  refer  this  committee  to  a  series  of  letters  I  have  written  for  the  Tidings, 
the  Catholic  diocese  paper  of  Los  Angeles,  in  which  I  have  tried  to  analyze  what 
is  the  re.siionsibility  of  a  man,  a  Catholic,  in  what  I  call  a  mixed  society,  in  groups, 
guilds,  and  unions,  where  you  don't  meet  people  of  the  same  beliefs,  religious, 
I)olitical,  or  what  have  you.  If  the  inference  is  to  be  in  this  country  that  one 
withdraws  from  every  guild  where  a  question  has  ever  been  used  or  raised  about 
their  ultimate  purpose,  then  obviously  the  field  of  action  is  going  to  be  left  to  the 
status  quo  hoys. 

Mr.  Combs.  That  is  vei-y  true.    I  think  you  are  right. 

Chairman  Tenney.  I  agree  with  you. 

The  Witness.  But  here  in  Hollywood,  it  .>eople  as  well  who  believe  in  social  change. 

Mr.  Combs.  I  think  you  are  right. 

Chairman  Tenney.  Let  me  add  there,  Mr.  Lavery — let  me  point  out  for  the 
sake  of  the  record — that  up  through  your  history  in  the  Hollywood  motion-picture 
Democratic  Committee,  which  undoubtedly  was  Communist  dominated  and 
inspirwl 

The  Witness.  That,  I  deny,  because  I  was  afhllated  with  them. 

Chairman  TENNiri-  (continuing).  Let  me  point  out  to  you  Melvyn  Douglas  and 
several  other  people  at  the  time  of  the  Hitler-Stalin  pact  resigned  from  the 
organization  because  of  its  Conununist  chai'acter.  Then  it  became  the  Hollywood 
Democratic  Committee,  the  'same  group.  And  now  it  is  the  Hollywood  Inde- 
pendent Citizens  Committee  for  the  Arts,  Sciences,  and  Professions,  which  every 
investigating  committee  has  looked  into  and  has  declared  it  to  be  a  Communist 
organization  or  a  ('onnnunist  front  organization.  Let  me  differentiate.  This 
comndttee  knows  probably  better  than  anyone  else  that  a  Communist  front 
organization  is  composed,  for  the  greater  part,  of  good  American  citizens  who 
have  no  knowledge  of  the  Comnninist  control  and  direction  of  the  organization. 

The  WiTNES.s.  I  would  like  to  hit  that  right  on  the  no.se.  I  would  like  to  meet 
that  issue  squarely  as  the  Senator  raises  it.  I  will  give  you  a  thought  from  Mr. 
.Justice  Holmes  again :  "When  the  going  gets  tough,  we  should  think  things 
instead  of  words."  One  of  the  greatest  weasel  words  in  modern  law  is  Commu- 
nist front,  because,  the  truth  of  the  mattei-  is.  it  destroys  organization.  Now,  let 
me  follow  thrcuigli.  Senator.  There  is  hardly  an  organization  in  the  average 
life  of  an  average  big  city  in  this  country  to  which  you  could  not  apply  Commu- 
nist front  on  the  theory  there  was  one  Communist  in  it. 

Chairman  Tenney.  I  disagTee  with  you.  A  Communist  front  organization  is 
characterized  by  the  fact  its  .secretary  and  board  of  directors  are  controlled  by 
the  Communists.  You  and  I  were  members  of  Communist  front  organizations. 
I  didn't  know  it  at  the  time,  hut  T  know  it  now.  I  was  told  for  years  that  the 
National  Lawyers  Guild  was  a  Comnumist  front  organization.  I  was  in  Chicago 
when  a  resolution  was  introduced  to  condemn  nazism,  fascism,  and  conununism. 
They  were  not  willing  to  condemn  communism,  and  3,000  lawyers  threatened  to 
disaffiliate  because  of  it. 

The  Witness.  Let's  take  two  organizations.     I  have  been   identified  with  the 
Hollywood  Independent  Citizens  Committee  in  its  current  form. 
,  ..jChairman  Tenney.  They  would  use  you  because  of  your  reputation. 

The  Witness.  Just  a  second,  Senator.  I  have  sat  in  on  board  meetimrs.  I  was 
not  part  of  the  first  one,  hut  I  was  a  member  of  the  last  one.  I  have  sat  in  on 
meetings  there,  and  I  didn't  see,  even  on  the  basis  of  hearsay  testimony,  any 
preponderance  of  Communist  thought  or  couti-ol.  Now.  I  Wiuit  to  lejive  This 
thought  with  you 


436  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Chairman  Tenney.  Before  you  do  that 

The  Witness.  I  don't  want  to  2:et  away  from  that.  I  want  to  stick  right  on  it 
witli  you,  Senator,  because,  believe  me,  that  is  tlie  big  cliallenge  of  today. 

Chairman  Tenney.  Here  is  the  point.  I  don't  lilce  to  interrupt,  but  I  want 
to  bring  this  to  your  mind  so  that  you  can  formulate  your  answer  to  it. 

By  Chairman  Tenney: 

Q.  You  don't  read  the  I'eople's  Daily  World? — A.  Not  very  often. 

Q.  And  you  don't  read  the  Conuuunist  publications,  and  if  you  don't  d(»  that 
you  can't  know  what  the  Communist  Party  line  is.  I  do  read  them. — A.  Senator, 
I  am  surprised  at  you.     If  yovi  keep  that  up  you  will  be  affet-ted  by  it. 

Q.  No;  because  I  believe  I  read  it  objectively.  I  don't  think  I  am  influenced 
by  anything  unless  I  have  the  facts  behind  it.  But  the  outstanding,  almost 
amazing,  fact  is  that  these  organizations  never,  never  disagree  with  the  Com- 
nmnist  Party  line.  That  couldn't  be  coincidental. — A.  May  I  hit  that  question 
right  on  the  nose?  Senator,  as  a  Catholic,  day  after  day.  I  meet  this  question. 
It  is  discussed  in  our  churches  all  the  time.  It  gets  down  to  something  as  simple 
as  this  :  Shall  we  be  only  for  those  things  the  Communist  oppose?  Now,  look 
at  the  situation  you  are  in.  If  the  Communist  Party  says  two  and  two  are  four, 
and  we  know  it  to  be  so,  shall  we  oppose  it?  If  the  Communist  Party  comes  out 
for  the  FEPC  shall  the  Catholic  Archbishop  of  Los  Angeles  come  out  and  say, 
"No;  it  is  Communist"?  Obviously,  in  a  democracy  the  Communists  are  smart 
enough  from  time  to  time  to  stand  for  a  good  thing.  If  we  are  going  to  de- 
termine other  than  by  objective  trutli  against  who  is  for  and  who  is  against, 
we  are  in  for  a  three-ring  circus  and  we  will  never  get  the  ti'uth. 

Q.  Let  me  point  out  that  what  you  say  is  partly  true.  After  all,  the  Com- 
munists pick  up  abuses  and  grievances  and  magnify  them. — A.  Is  that  bad? 

Q.  As  far  as  being  good,  it  is  all  right,  because  it  does  .some  good.  We  want 
to  see  things  better.  They  want  to  make  it  worse.  The  real  test  is  this:  For 
instance,  when  the  Hollywood  Anti-Nazi  League  was  organized  by  V.  J.  Jerome 
and  John  Howard  Lawson  and  other  Communists,  it  was  a  good  organization  as 
far  as  the  average  American  citizen  is  concerned,  because  they  were  against 
the  persecution  of  the  Jews  and  the  barbaric  treatment  of  people  in  central 
Europe.  That  was  fine.  But  suddenly  Stalin  and  Hitler  got  together.  Now, 
the  real  Communists  went  along  with  the  new  line.  All  of  the  innocent  and 
good  American  citizens  immediately  dropped  out.  The  Hollywood  Anti-Nazi 
League  folded  up.  Then  it  became  the  American  Peace  Mobilization.  They 
began  to  say,  "The  Yanks  are  not  coming."  Picket  lines  went  around  the  White 
House.  Roosevelt  was  a  warmonger.  It  was  an  imperialist  war.  Every  decent 
member  in  the  membership  got  out,  but  the  real  Communists  stuck  right  down 
the  line,  and  the  Communist  front  organizations  followed  that  line  through.- — 
A.  But  that  is  ancient  history.     We  are  dealing  with  contemporary  history. 

Q.  But  we  have  to  go  back  to  some  facts  we  know  about  in  order  to  apply 
them  to  conditions  that  we  are  not  so  familiar  with. — A.  As  lawyers,  are  you 
going  to  be  bound  by  the  dead  hand  of  precedent  because  something  happened 
in  Hollywood  5  years  ago? 

Q.  Not  at  all. 

Mr.  Combs.  Does  a  lawyer  have  to  be  bound  by  precedent? 

The  Witness.  No ;  not  if  you  are  a  good  lawyer.  Sometimes  you  make  yttur 
own  precedent  if  you  are  a  good  judge  and  a  good  lawyer  fighting  for  the  truth. 
I  think  the  current  trial  at  Nuremberg  was  a  good  thing.  If  it  had  to  wait  for 
the  dead  hand  of  precedent  it  would  never  have  been  held. 

Mr.  Combs.  You  would  have  to  wait  for  a  long  time. 

The  Witness.  I  know;  but  I  want  to  rnise  this  question  with  the  committee. 
After  all,  let's  be  realistic  in  this  thing.  As  a  Catholic.  I  have  been  called  both 
a  dupe  and  a  dope  for  being  president  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild.  Those  names 
don't  bother  me  a  bit.  I  was  brought  up  as  a  lawyer  to  looli  for  the  objective 
truth  as  I  see  it  and  not  to  weigh  the  Issues  who  is  for  or  against,  becau.se  if  you 
do  you  become  so  objective  you  cannot  make  an  intelligent  appraisal  of  events. 
In  this  town  right  now,  in  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  in  the  mobilization,  and  in 
the  independent  citizens'  committee,  there  are  honest  people  who  are  not  being 
hoodwinked. 

Chairman  Tenney.  We  are  sure  of  that. 

The  Witness.  I  know.  Senator ;  but  particularly  after  your  committee  has 
been  in  session  for  a  long  time,  it  is  the  feelinc  that  those  of  us  who  linger 
overlong  in  progressive  groups  are  btMng  fooled.  Believe  you  me,  I  would  rather 
stay  home  than  go  to  guild  meetings  every  month,  but  I  consider  it  part  of  my 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  437 

oblif^atioii  as  an  American  citizen  to  pitch  in  and  fight  for  social  justice  and 
social  change  within  the  framework  of  our  Constitution.  But  if  we  are  going 
to  tab  every  questionable  organization  as  a  Connnunist-front  organization,  in 
time  you  will  drive  out  the  Communists,  but  you  will  drive  out  a  good  30  percent 
of  solid  American  citizens  along  with  tlieni,  and  I  think  it  will  be  a  tragedy  in 
this  country. 

Chairman  Tknnky.  May  I  say,  Mr.  Lavery,  that  as  soon  as  the  Communists 
fulfill  their  objectives  they  dissolve. 

The  Witness.  Then  on  that  basis  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  should  be  elim- 
inated. 

Chairman  Tenney.  We  are  not  talking  about  it.  We  never  said  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild  is  a  Communist  organization. 

The  Witness.  Witnesses  have  been  here.  What  about  private  conversation 
of  people  who  were  up  here? 

Chairman  Tenney.  We  have  said  many  times,  and  we  say  again,  your  organi- 
zation has  a  lot  of  Communists  in  it.     You  know  it,  and  I  know  it. 
^  The  Witness.   Yes;  but 

Ciiairman  Tenney.  But  we  don't  say  the  organization  is  Communist  because 
of  that  reason. 

The  Witness.  I  want  to  repeat  that,  and  I  will  put  it  in  large  letters  in  the 
Screen  Writer. 

Mr.  Combs.  Nor  have  we  called  you  a  Communist. 

The  W'Itness.  I  have  been  waiting  for  a  long  time  to  get  a  statement.  I  see 
now  the  Senator's  test  of  a  Communist-front  organization  is  one  which  comes 
into  life  quickly  and  is  dissolved  quickly. 

Chairman  Tenney.  No.  Let  me  give  you  a  full  definition.  A  Communist-front 
organization  has  for  its  core  a  group  of  Communist  functionaries  who  have  been 
indoctrinated  in  Communist  schools.  They  go  out  and  get  good  people  who  don't 
know  anything  about  its  Communist  affiliation.  They  address  these  organiza- 
tions with  these  names.  They  have  used  me,  and  they  probably  have  used  you. 
All  right.  Then  the  organization  goes  along,  and  the  good  members,  the  Ameri- 
can members,  don't  pay  too  much  attention  to  it.  The  directors  run  it.  The 
Communist  Party  tells  them  what  to  do,  and  they  carry  it  out.  But  the  test  is 
this :  Through  their  public  enunciations  they  follow  the  party  line.  I  will  be  glad 
if  you  can  show  me  any  time  where  HICCASP  has  disagreed  with  Joe  Stalin 
or  the  foreign  policy  of  Soviet  Russia  on  the  current  Communist  line;  then  I 
will  go  along  with  you. 

The  Witness.  On  a  certain  point  you  will  have  to  amend  your  definition.,  be- 
cause at  certain  times  you  could  prove  the  Pope  himself  was  a  fellow  traveler. 

Chairman  Tenney.  No,  Mr.  Lavery ;  I  said  consistently,  without  deviation. 

The  Witness.  All  right.     Consistently,  without  deviation. 

Chairman  Tenney.  The  true  liberal  is  this :  He  will  go  along  with  the  Com- 
munist Party  for  a  long  time  because  invariably  they  pick  out  things  that  form 
an  impact  on  the  public  conscience;  but  occasionally  when  they  get  into  conflict 
with  the  interests  of  our  own  people,  say,  the  foreign  policy  of  Soviet  Russia, 
and  the  Byrnes  policy  at  Paris,  bringing  the  troops  back  from  China  to  help  the 
Comnninist  Chinese  overthrow  the  Chinese  Government — when  those  things  run 
contrary  to  the  American  conscience,  the  liberal  has  to  leaVe  them.  The  point 
I  am  making  is  that  the  Communist-front  organization  never  deviates  from  the 
principles  of  Marxism  or  the  conscience  of  Joe  Stalin.  They  follow  it  very 
consistently. 

The  Witness.  One  point  I  want  to  raise  with  respect  to  the  Senator's  defini- 
tion :  Who,  short  of  the  Supreme  Court  at  Washington,  will  decide  what  you 
mean  by  "Communists"? 

Chairman  Tenney.  Referring  to  Mr.  Justice  Holmes,  I  could  quote  you  a  few 
things  he  said  about  communism.  I  think  you  will  find  some  quotations  in  the 
1943  report. 

The  Witness.  I  am  talking  about  a  contemporary  definition  of  communism. 
In  other  words,  let's  face  it.  My  grandfather,  an  Irish  immigrant,  came  to  the 
Hudson  Valley  in  New  York  State  around  1860  or  ISoO  when  the  Know-Nothing 
Party  was  ruiming  up  and  down  that  valley.  In  those  days  to  be  a  Catholic  was 
a  dangerous  and  suhvfisive  thing.  He  sat  up  nights  with  a  gun  on  his  knee 
trying  to  protect  the  church  against  night-raiding  Know-Nothings.  I  heard  the 
story  as  a  boy.  and  I  have  never  forgotten  it.  Now,  I  say  to  myself,  as  a  Catho- 
lic who  believes  in  democratic  American  ideals,  the  wheels  can  turn  very  quickly. 
Half  of  the  things  you  receive  in  this  committee  against  the  Communists  can  be 


438  COMMUNISM    IN   MOTION    PICTUHE   INDUSTRY 

applied  ((Hiinrrow  in  tiic  Imiuls  of  ii  (•(iniiiiittcH  not   si»  zciilnus  ;if;:iinst   ('atholic-a 
very  t-asily. 

Cliiiirniaii  Tknney.  Would  Mr.  Fostt^-  hp  an  anthorityV 
'I'lie  WiTNPTSs.  On  coinnninisni  he  may  bt\ 

Chairman  Tknnky.  We  have  just  jjot  page  after  i)age  of  quotations. 
The  WiTNKss.  Ye.s.  I'>ut  this  eountry  will  not  conline  itself  to  learning  these 
definitions  set  up  by  AVilliain  Z.  Foster.  You  are  in  politics.  I  ran  for  Congress 
and  lost,  happily  enough.  In  politics  we  must  realize  the  traffic  of  the  ordinary 
phra.se.  When  pfople  talk  about  conununism  and  Comnninist-front  organizations 
they  are  not  careful  enough  to  keep  Foster's  definition  in  mind;  when  they  !()Ui- 
questions, 

Mr.  Lavei!Y.  I  liad  one  more 

The  Chairman.  Oh,  go  ahead. 

Mr.  Lam:ry.  I  wanted  to  have  a  notation  made  for  tlie  record  that 
in  October  1946,  a  few  weeks  after  I  appeared  before  the  Tenney  com- 
mittee, I  appeared  vokmtarily  before  the  office  of  the  FBI  in  Los 
Angeles — the  office  of  Mr.  Richard  B.  Hood — and  I  iisked  him  to  make 
a  notation  on  liis  record  at  that  time  that  as  president  of  the  guild  I  had 
appeared  before  the  FBI  voluntarily  and  had  offered  to  put  myself 
and  any  records  of  our  guild  completely  at  his  disposal  at  any  time.  I 
have  not  heard  fi'om  him. 

The  Chairman.  When  was  that? 

Mr.  Lavery.  That  was  in  October  194G.  I  think  the  records  of  ^Ir. 
Hood  in  the  Los  Angeles  office  of  the  FBI  will  bear  me  out  on  that. 

I  would  also  ask  the  chairman  to  permit  me  to  have  a  notation 
made  for  the  record  that  when  the  committee  held  its  hearings  in  Los 
Angeles,  in  the  spring  of  last  year.  I  was  not  subpenaed  then,  nor  were 
any  records  of  my  guild  subpenaed,  and  this  is  the  first  opportunity 
that  I  have  had. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  won't  l)other  you  with  anything  more  about  it, 
except  it 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lavery,  just  to  keep  the  record  straight ■ 

Mr.  Lavery.  Surely. 

Mv.  Stripling.  The  subcommittee  was  in  Los  Angeles  this  year. 

Mr.  Lavery.  Oh,  I  am  sorry. 

Now,  Mr.  Chairman — and  this  will  dispense  with  my  preliminary 
motions — I  have  a  piece  of  information  that  I  w^ould  like  to  put  in 
the  record  on  my  owni  motion  and  on  my  volunteering,  because  I  am 
not  sure  as  a  student  of  constitutional  law  whether  the  committee  does 
have  the  authority  to  demand  it  of  me,  but  let  me  break  the  suspense 
immediately  and  tell  you  that  I  am  not  a  Communist.  I  never  have 
been.  I  don't  intend  to  be.  I  will  make  open  confession  and  admit 
that  I  am  a  Democrat  who  in  my  youth  was  a  Re])ublican.  And  if  the 
committee  wants  to  know  why  I  changed  from  Republican  to 
Democrat 

Tlie  Chairman.  No;  we  are  not  interested  in  why  you  changed. 
[Laughter.]  Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling,  with  the  questions.  Proceed 
with  the  questions, 

Mr.  Lavery.  This  is  the  [handing  statement  to  Mr.  Stripling]— — 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman 

The  Chairman.  Just  a  minute. 

(The  chairman  confers  with  Mr.  Lavery.) 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling,  wath  the  questions, 

Mr.  Lavery.  The  Chair  suggested  I  might  leave  that. 

Mr.  Striplin(}.  ]\Ir.  Chairman,  I  think  in  the  interest  of  orderly 
])rocedure  it  would  be  nuich  better  if  the  witness  answered  the  questions 
which  the  committee  is  going  to  ask  him. 

The  Chairman.  The  witness  has  already  agreed. 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  have  agreed. 

INIr.  Stripling.  All  right.  You  are  now  the  president  of  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild;  is  that  true? 

Mr.  Lavery.  That  is  correct. 


COMMUNISM    IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  443 

Mr.  STUiiM.ixr;.   How  many  times  liavo  yon  bctMi  piesidont  ? 

Mr.  Lavehy.  I  am  servino;  my  third  and  last  term. 

Mr.  STiurLiNG.  And  when  were  yon  hist  elected? 

Mr.  Lavery.  a  year  ago  this  November. 

INIr.  Stritlixg.  How  many  members  are  there  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  think  our  active  voting  members  number  approxi- 
mately 9o7.  Onr  nonvoting-  associate  members  number  approxi- 
mately 5P>1. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  what  is  the  purpose  of  the  guild? 

Mr.  Lavery.  We  are  the  official  bargaining  agency  for  screen 
writers  in  Hollywood.  We  correspond  roughly  to  the  position  of 
the  Dramatists  Guild  in  the  theater  and  are  unaffiliated  with  either  the 
A.  F.  of  L.  or  the  CIO.  Our  only  affiliation  is  with  the  Authoi-s 
League  of  America. 

Mr.  STRirLiNG.  Now,  the  Authors  League  of  America,  was  that 
established  by  the  guild  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  No.  The  Authors  League  of  America  is  a  much  older 
organization.  It  has  been  in  existence  for  some  time.  It  is  a,  you 
might  call  it,  federation  which  unifies  the  Radio  Writers  Guild,  the 
Authors  League,  the  Dramatists  Guild,  and  ourselves,  although  we 
are  not  full  members  of  the  league.    We  are  merely  an  affiliate. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  is  the  purpose  of  the  American  Authors  Au- 
thority ?    What  does  it  seek  to  do  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Well,  the  American  Authors  Authority,  which  is  not 
in  existence,  was  a  licensing  plan  proposed  by  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild  to  get  better  terms  for  the  marketing  of  original  material  sold 
for  the  screen.  At  the  present  time  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  has  a 
minimum  basic  agreement  with  produ.cers,  under  which  various  terms 
of  employment  are  stabilized.  But  that  is  definitely  an  employment 
situation.  We  have  no  contract  which  covers  the  sale  of  original 
material. 

The  AAA  was  an  attempt  to  establish  a  plan  of  licensing  under 
which  authors  would  not  sell  outright  their  material  for  the  screen, 
but  would  license  it  for  a  certain  term  of  years,  for  various  per- 
centages of  profit. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  stated  that  the  American  Authors  Authority  is 
not  now  in  existence.    Was  it  originally  formed  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  No.  It  was  a  plan  that  was  offered  to  the  Authors 
League  of  America. 

There  was  a  great  deal  of  discussion  among  the  member  guilds  of 
the  league,  and  the  AAA  as  such  was  never  adopted.  But  I  think  the 
principle  of  licensing,  which  was  the  core  of  AAA,  is  still  very  much  a 
live  issue  and  will  be  continued  to  be  discussed  in  the  Authors  League 
of  America  and  member  guilds  for  many  years  to  come. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Lavery,  as  president  of  the  guild,  have 
you  ever  noticed  or  observed  or  are  you  aware  of  any  Counnunist  in- 
filtration within  the  Screen  Writers  iGruild? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  have  said  many  times — I  make  it  as  a 
general  assumption — that  there  are  probably  Communists  in  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild.  I  can't  particularize  that  assumption  as  to 
individuals,  but  I  am  walling  to  make  the  assumption  generally  that, 
I  think,  there  are  Communists  in  the  Screen  Writers  (niild. 


444  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  influence  do  you  think  they  exert  within  the 
guild? 

Mr.  L AVERY.  Well,  Mr.  Stripling,  I  think  it  is  not  half  as  much  as 
they  make  out.  I  think  that  our  Screen  Writers  Guild  is  not  much 
different  from  most  guilds,  most  unions  in  this  country.  It  has  what 
this  committee  would  probably  consider  an  extreme  left  and  it  has  an 
extreme  right,  but  the  great  rank  and  file  of  the  membership  is  what 
I  call  liberal  center.  And,  like  any  guild,  we  have  our  discussions. 
We  try  to  keep  them  in  the  f amih^  We  try  to  solve  them  in  the  family, 
as  long  as  we  can.    I  think  we  keep  our  guild  on  a  good,  even  keel. 

My  only  concern  with  respect  to  this  whole  proceeding,  Mr.  Chair- 
man, is  merely  that  people  might  go  back  home  and  think  that  they 
have  been  political  martyrs.  An  election  in  November  which  is  com- 
ing up  in  our  Screen  Writers  Guild  might  be  seriously  affected,  and 
not  for  the  better,  if  people  thought  that  perhaps  government  had 
interfered  any  more  than  was  necessary  in  the  normal  operations  of 
the  guild. 

I  think  our  guild  has  been  competent  in  the  past  and  is  now  com- 
petent to  manage  its  own  affairs,  to  keep  it  definitely  in  the  American 
order  of  things,  and  to  do  well  by  the  country  and  by  its  own  guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  Mr.  John  Howard  Lawson? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Yes.  I  have  known  John  Howard  Lawson  for  some 
years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  it  true  that  he  was  the  first  president  of  the  guild  ? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  I  think  way  back  in  the  early  days,  prior  to  reorgan- 
ization of  the  guild  in  1937,  John  Howard  Lawson  was  president,  in 
those  very  early  days ;  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Is  he  now  a  member  of  the  guild? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Yes ;  I  believe  Mr.  Lawson  is  obviously  still  a  member 
of  the  guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  think  that  John  Howard  Lawson  is  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  have  no  information  beyond  what  I 
have  heard  read  into  the  record  here  during  the  few  days  that  I  have 
been  in  Washington.  I  don't  know  whether  he  is  or  not.  I  have  never 
seen  his  card.  But  I  have  heard  the  testimony  that  has  been  offered 
here  this  week. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Does  Mr.  Lawson  conduct  himself  in  guild  affairs- 
along  the  Communist  Party  line? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Well,  the  truth  of  the  matter  is,  Mr.  Stripling,  that 
Mr.  Lawson  hasn't  been  as  active  in  the  affairs  of  the  guild,  at  least  on 
the  floor  of  meetings  that  I  have  chaired,  as  he  was  in  years  gone  by. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  about  Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo?  Do  you  know 
Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo? 

Mr.  L  WTERY.  Yes ;  I  Imow  Mr.  Trumbo. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  Mr.  Trumbo  was  editor  of  the  Screen  Writer, 
the  official  publication  of  the  guild,  was  he  not  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  That  is  true.  At  one  time  Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo  was 
editor  of  the  Screen  Writer,  the  monthly  publication  of  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  if  he  holds  any  other  position  in  the 
Screen  Writers  Guild  at  this  time? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  don't  think  so  at  this  time. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  445 

Mr.  Stripling,  Do  you  think  Mr.  Dalton  Trumbo  is  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Mr.  Stripling,'  1  have  no  information  beyond  what  I 
have  heard  here  this  week.  I  mean,  I  have  heard  the  memoranda  read 
and  the  charge  made  tliat  there  was  a  membership  card  in  his  name. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  the  statement  which  the  Hol- 
lywood Reporter  carried,  asking  Mr,  Trumbo  and  others  wdio  are 
members  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  to  deny  that  they  held  party  card 
so  and  so  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Yes.  But  the  reason  that  perhaps  I  don't  attribute  too 
much  weight  to  what  the  Hollywood  Reporter  says,  Mr,  Stripling,  is 
that  one  time  they  said  the  same  thintis  about  me  and  until  I  threat- 
ened to  sue  ^Ir.  Wilkerson  for  libel.  He  published  a  two-page  retrac- 
tion, at  his  own  expense.  He  was  making  the  same  charge  against 
me. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well 

The  Chairman.  Isn't  it  quite  strange,  then,  that  they  don't  threaten 
to  sue? 

Mr.  Lavery,  Well,  maybe  I  like  to  sue  more  than  other  people,  Mr. 
Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  These  daj^s  everybody  likes  to  sue,  I  can  tell  you 
that, 

Mr,  LA\TiRY.  I  meant  to  make  a  notation  in  the  record  earlier,  Mr. 
Chairman,  with  respect  to  the  credibility  of  witne'-ses  who  have  pre- 
ceded me,  that  I  have  a  libel  suit  pending  in  the  State  of  California 
against  one  of  the  star  witnesses  of  this  committee,  I  have  sued  Mrs, 
Lela  Rogers  in  the  Superior  Court  of  California  for  $1,000,000,  in  libel 
and  slander,  for  remarks  made  about  a  play  of  mine,  which  has  been 
mentioned  here.  The  Gentleman  from  Athens,  in  a  Town  Hall  broad- 
cast on  September  2, 

The  Chairman,  Wasn't  that  all  in  the  newspapers? 

Mr,  LA^T.RY.  It  was  also  in  the  records  of  this  committee,  Mr,  Chair- 
man, 

The  Chairman,  Well 

Mr,  Laat>ry,  Everything  except  the  fact  that  I  sued  her  for  libel. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  is  it  pertinent  to  this  inquiry? 

Mr,  Lavery.  I  think  it  is  pertinent  as  to  the  credibility  of  whatever 
Mrs,  Rogers  said. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  don't  think  Mrs.  Rogers  made  any  mention  of  it 
during  her  testimony,  Mr.  Lavery. 

Mr,  Lavery.  No;  but  she  talked  about  communism  in  Hollywood, 

Mr.  Stripling.  But  we  are  now  asking  you  about  communism  in 
the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  of  which  there  is  apparently  quite  some 
activity. 

Mr.  Lavery.  All  right,  let  us  discuss  communism  in  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  think  that  is  the  purpose  for  having  the  witness 
here. 

Mr.  La%tery.  All  right. 

Mr.  Stripling,  As  president  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild,  we  would 
like  to  know  just  what  influence  the  Communists  exercise  in  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild,  because  the  people  whom  we  have  had  here  the  last 
several  days  and  who  have  refused  to  answer  whether  or  not  they 
were  Communists  have  long  associations  with  the  Communist  Party. 

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446  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

There  has  been  introduced  documentary  evidence  to  show  that 
Communist  membership. 

Now,  what  influence  do  the  six  people  who  have  been  here  in  the 
last  3  days  exercise  in  the  guild  ? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  say  they  do  not  have  control  of  the 
guild,  and  if  they  did  have  control  of  the  guild  I  would  have  stayed 
home  long  ago. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  they  ever  have  control  of  the  guild? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Not  while  I  have  been  president. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  Mr.  Trumbo,  who  was  the  editor  of  the  Screen 
Writer,  the  ofKcial  organ  of  the  guild? 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Yes ;  that  is  true,  but  I  think 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  think  some  of  these  others  have  held  prominent 
positions  in  the  guild. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Yes ;  but  we  are  a  guild  of  many,  many  members,  Mr. 
Stripling — 937  or  931  active  members.  You  have  mentioned  the  names 
of  perhaps  a  half  dozen. 

Mr.  Stripling.  There  will  be  others. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  I  will  be  glad  to  discuss  them,  if  I  can. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  think  it  is  possible  for  a  few  Commu- 
nists to  exert  tremendous  influence  within  unions  and  organizations? 

Mr.  La  VERY. .  I  think  it  is  possible  for  them  to  try.  I  don't  think  in 
a  group  of  writers  it  is  possible  for  them  to  get  away  with  it.  Have 
you  ever  tried  to  organize  a  group  of  writers  to  do  anything? 
[Laughter.] 

(The  chairman  pounds  gavel.) 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lavery,  are  you  familiar  with  an  organization 
known  as  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization? 

Mr.  Lavery.  Yes.  I  was  its  wartime  chairman.  And  may  I  point 
out  for  the  record  that  there  was  an  error  made  the  other  day  in 
one  of  the  dossiers  describing  the  organization  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization.  I  don't  know  much  about  the  personal  careers  of  Mr. 
John  Howard  Lawson  or  the  political  careers  of  Mr.  Lawson  and 
.Mr.  Trumbo.  I  know  something  about  the  Writers  Mobilization.  I 
don't  know  where  your  investigators  got  their  information,  but  I  am 
sure  the  FBI  in  Los  Angeles  can  tell  you  that  the  Hollywood  Writers 
Mobilization  was  not  the  successor  of  the  League  of  American  Writers. 
Nobody  who  knows  the  Hollywood  scene  would  ever  make  that  ob- 
servation. The  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  was  roughly  wdiat 
you  might  call  a  writers'  war  board,  formed  on  the  west  coast  during 
the  war,  to  service  the  agencies  of  the  Government  in  their  need 
for  various  scripts  in  various  parts  of  the  war  effort. 

And  I  have  brought  with  me  here  today,  if  the  committee  is  in- 
terested, a  medal  [indicating] — not  an  important  medal,  but  a  medal 
anyway — which  the  Treasury  Department  of  the  United  States  sent 
to  me  as  chairman  of  the  Writers  Mobilization  in  return  for  the  work 
that  I  did  in  the  war  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  if  the  members  have  any  questions 
at  this  point.  I  would  like  a  few  moments  to  review  certain  notes  I 
have. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDoAVELL.  No  questions. 


COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  447 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Laveiy,  the  committee  has  gone  over  your 
statement.  In  view  of  the  fact  that  you  have  indicated  your  atti- 
tude very  fully  up  to  now — and  you  will  probably  have  more  to  add — 
plus  the  additional  fact  that  there  is  much  in  your  statement  that  is 
not  pertinent  to  the  inquiry,  we  decline  to  have  you  read  the  state- 
ment in  these  hearings. 

-Mr.  LvvEHY.  May  1  have  a  notation  made  for  the  record,  Mr.  Chair- 
man, that  I  respectfully  dissent  ? 

The  Chairman.  That  is  all  right.     That  is  your  right. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  And  may  I  carry  the  further  notation  that  I  am  al- 
ways available  and  at  the  service  of  the  committee  for  any  questions. 

I  don't  want  to  leave  this  stand,  Mr.  Chairman,  without  going  ex- 
haustively into  any  questions 

The  Chairman.  Oh,  we  are  not  asking  you  to  leave  the  stand. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  We  want  you  to  go  into  the  matter  very  thoroughly. 

Mr.  La\t:ry.  I  will  be  glad  to. 

The  Chairman.  Very  thoroughly. 

Mr.  La  VERY.  I  will  be  glad  to. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lavery,  can  you  tell  me  what  position,  if  any, 
you  ever  held  in  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobilization  ? 

Mr.  Lavery.  I  was  its  wartime  chairman. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  the  Writers  Mobilization  ever 
attempted  any  censorship  ? 

]\Ir.  Lavery.  I  don't  see  how  they  would  be  in  a  position  to,  Mr. 
Stripling.  They  wrote  literally  on  assignment  to  Government  agen- 
cies.    The  production  of 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  describe  for  the  committee  just  what  the 
Wiiters  Mobilization  did  do — its  entire  functions? 

Mr.  La\^ry.  Yes.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  some  of  it  is  here  in  my 
record.  I  have  the  full  report,  which  was  once  put  in  the  Congres- 
sional Record.  But,  briefly,  it  was  a  clearing  house  set  up  by  six 
or  seven  guilds  in  Hollywood,  to  pool  their  common  functions  as 
writers,  actors,  directors,  and  producers,  in  the  preparation  of  scripts 
for  War  bond  drives ;  docimientaries  for  use  of  the  Army  or  Navy  or 
Treasuiy  Departments;  and  similar  activity — the  preparation  of 
speeches  during  the  war  drive.  But  this  was  definitely  what  you 
might  call  a  cooperative  research  agency  placed  at  the  disposal  of 
the  Government. 

The  speeches  or  films  or  scripts  were  ij;rn- 
ment. 

I  believe  it  was  brought  out  at  the  hearing  that  Mr.  Eisler  received 
$26,000  for  various  scores  whicli  he  had  written  for  RKO-Keiths. 

Now,  as  an  executive  of  RKO-Keiths,  what  is  the  policy  of  your 
company  with  regard  to  the  employment  of  people  who  are  notoriously 
international  Communists  ? 

Mr.  Schary.  That  policy,  I  imagine,  will  have  to  be  determined  by 
tlie  president,  by  the  board,  and  by  myself.  I  can  tell  you  personally 
what  I  feel.  Up  until  the  time  it  is  proved  that  a  Communist  is  a  man 
dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  the  Government  by  force  or  violence, 
or  by  any  illegal  methods,  I  cannot  make  any  determination  of  his 
employment  on  any  otlier  basis  except  whether  he  is  qualified  best  to 
do  the  job  I  want  him  to  do. 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  Mv.  Eisler,  himself,  stated  in  writing  that  he  was 
working  for  the  overthrow  of  this  Government  by  force  and  violence, 
would  that  be  sufficient  evidence  for  you? 

Mr.  Schary.  That  would  be ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  give  you  a  copy  of  the  hearings  with  the  evi- 
dence in  them 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  ask  that  you  read  them. 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  471 

Mr.  Stripling.  Regarding  Mr.  Eisler. 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Where  is  that,  sir?    Where  would  I  find  it ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  would  be  glad  to  find  it. 

Now,  Mr.  Schary 

The  Chairman.  May  I  ask  a  question  right  there? 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  In  view  of  the  testimony  that  was  presented  to  the 
Un-American  Activities  Committee  concerning  Hanns  Eisler  and 
knowing  him  now  as  a  Connnunist,  and  knowing  also  the  record  of 
both  Gerhart  Eisler  and  Hanns  Eisler,  would  you  as  a  studio  executive 
be  willing  to  hire  him  now  ? 

Mr,  Schary.  As  I  told  Mr.  Stripling,  if  there  is  evidence  to  support 
the  charge  that  he  is  dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  the  Government  by 
force  I  would  not  hire  him.  I  would  hire  no  such  man  because  I  be- 
lieve he  would  not  be  dedicated  to  the  best  interests  of  America. 

The  Chairman.  Just  let's  forget  that  for  a  second,  and  think  of 
Hanns  Eisler. 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  You  have  read  a  lot  about  Hanns  Eisler  lately  ? 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  Would  you  be  willing  to  rehire  Hanns  Eisler? 

Mr.  Schary.  I  think,  Mr.  Thomas — and  I  really  don't  want  to  be 
evasive,  and  I  don't  want  you  to  assume  that  I  am — I  can  only  judge 
in  terms  of  the  record.  Now,  I  have  been  asked  by  Mr.  Stripling  that 
if,  on  the  record,  I  was  shown  that  this  man  had  been  definitely  proven 
that  he  was  dedicated  to  the  overthrow — that  the  Communist  Party 
was  dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  the  Government — of  course  I  would 
not  hire  him.  But  I  cannot  judge  that  until  it  is  part  of  a  proven 
record.     I  think  I  must  do  that  as  a  citizen. 

The  Chairman.  All  right.  Well,  supposing  it  is  not  called  to  your 
attention  that  the  Communist  Party  is  dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of 
the  Government  by  force  or  violence,  but  knowing  the  record  of  Hanns 
Eisler — just  think  in  terms  of  Hanns  Eisler — having  read  what  you 
have  about  Hanns  Eisler,  aro  you  willing  to  rehire  Hanns  Eisler? 

Mr.  Schary.  Well,  you  get  into  a  completely  different  area.  You 
are  confusing  me  between  a  matter  of  a  principle  and  a  matter  of 
whether  I  would,  as  an  executive  in  charge  of  motion  pictures,  hire 
Hanns  Eisler. 

The  Chairman.  I  am  talking  about  you  now  as  an  executive. 

Mr.  Schary.  As  an  executive,  I  can  only  repeat  and  maintain  that 
position,  Mr.  Chairman,  which  I  think  is  a  very  rational  position  as  a 
citizen.  I  will  hire  only  those  people  I  believe  best  qualified  for  their 
jobs  until  it  is  proven,  until  it  is  a  matter  of  record,  and  if  that  record 
is  shown  to  me  of  course  I  would  not  hire  anyone  who  is  dedicated  to 
the  overthrow  of  the  Government  by  force. 

The  Chair:man.  All  right,  but  supposing  we  can  prove  that  Hanns 
Eisler  was  a  Communist  and  was  very  active  as  an  international  Com- 
munist  

Mr.  Schary.  Yes. 

The  Chairmax.  But  there  has  never  been  any  proof,  we  will  say,  that 
he  advocated,  ])ersonally  advocated,  the  overthrow  of  the  Government 
by  force  or  violence. 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes. 


472  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman".  Knowing  the  record  as  you  do — in  all  newspapers 
now-^would  you  rehire  Hanns  Eisler  ? 

Mr.  SciiARY.  I  have  to  answer  that  in  two  parts,  and  I  again  don't 
want  to  seem  evasive. 

One  part  is  that  I  don't  know  whether  I  would  hire  Mr.  Hanns 
Eisler  because  of  his  particular  qualifications  as  a  musician.  The 
second,  there  has  been  a  ruling,  I  believe,  in  the  Supreme  Court  which 
prohibits  me  as  an  American  to  arbitrarily  refuse  employment  to  a 
man  purely  because  of  his  politics.  I  believe  that  was  adjudicated  by 
the  Supreme  Court  and  I  cannot,  as  an  American,  refuse  that. 

What  I  might  feel  personally  about  that  would  be  another  thing. 

The  Chapman.  Therefore,  assuming  that  Hanns  Eisler  is  a  great 
artist;  assuming  also  that  he  is  a  Communist,  you  would  not  hesitate 
to  rehire  him  ? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  I  would  not  hesitate  to  rehire  him  if  it  was  not  proven 
that  he  was  a  foreign  agent.  I  would  still  maintain  his  right  to  think 
politically  as  he  chooses. 

The  Chairman.  Have  you  ever  heard  of  Rip  Van  Winkle? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes,  sir ;  many  years  ago. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  I  want  to  tell  you  something.  If  some  people 
in  the  United  States  don't  wake  up  and  get  out  of  the  long  sleep  we 
will  find  some  of  the  difficulties  here  that  they  have  encountered  in 
France  and  Italy  and  Yugoslavia  and  Poland  and  Finland,  and  some 
of  these  South  American  countries.  It  is  the  Rip  Van  Winkle  opinion 
that  has  been  permitting  communism  to  grow  throughout  the  world 
the  way  it  has. 

That  is  all. 

(Loud  applause.) 

Mr.  S<  'hary.  ]\Iay  I  comment  for  a  moment  on  that,  Mr.  Chairman  ? 

The  Chairman.  Your  answers  need  no  comment.  They  are  very 
clear. 

Mr.  ScHARY.  I  don't  think  you  are  being  fair  and  I  think  I  should 
be  permitted  to  comment  on  that. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  go  ahead  and  comment,  then. 

Mr.  Sciiary.  What  I  feel  about  that  is  this:  That  I  have  been 
opposed  to  Communists.  I  am  not  a  Communist.  I  have  never  been  a 
Communist.  I  never  contemplated  becoming  a  Communist,  and  I  am 
opposed  to  Comnumists.  I  have  fought  the  Communist  line  at  any 
time  that  I  have  seen  it  become  appaient.  I  fought  in  19^0  when  it 
was  very  apparent,  and  I  have  fought  it  in  any  possible  way  I  can,  and 
I  shall  continue  to  fight  it,  but  I  believe,  along  with  most  American 
citizens,  as  Mr.  Vail  pointed  out  today,  that  it  is  not  as  great  a  danger 
as  some  people  believe  it  to  be.  I  think  the  American  people  resent  it. 
I  don't  think  communism  has  anything  to  offer  the  American  people, 
and  that  is  why  I  don't  think  it  is  as  dangerous  as  some  people  do. 

Mr.  Stripling,  Mr.  Schary,  what  is  your  attitude  regarding  the 
Communist  Party  of  the  United  States?  Do  you  think  that  it  is  a 
domestic  ])olitical  party  or  do  you  consider  it  to  be  a  party  which  takes 
its  direction  from  a  foreign  government  and  acts  in  strict  conformity 
with  the  policies  of  that  government,  namely,  the  Soviet  Union? 

Mr.  Schary.  Whether  it  is  under  orders  from  Moscow,  of  course  I 
don't  know,  but  I  do  say  that  there  is  a  great  similarity,  very  often, 
between  Russian  foreign  policy  and  the  Communist  Party  line  in 
America. 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  473 

Mr.  Stripling,  There  is  an  exact  similarity,  isn't  there? 

Mr.  SciiARY.  As  I  say,  I  liave  noticed  there  has  been  that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yon  conldn't  give  the  committee  any  deviations  from 
it,  could  you,  exact  deviations? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Not  to  my  knowledge ;  no. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  are  Mr.  Scott  and  Mr.  Dmytryk,  who  preceded 
you,  employed  in  your  studio? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes ;  they  are  under  contract. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  heard  them  refuse  to  answer  the  question 
whether  or  not  they  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  continue  to  employ  them? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  They  are  under  contracts  to  RKO.  They  were  em- 
ployed by  RKO  before  I  came  there.  My  association  with  both  Mr. 
Scott  and  Mr.  Dmytryk  has  been  very  professional.  As  an  executive 
I  have  consulted  with  them  on  films,  t  can  only  say  this,  Mr.  Stripling, 
I  do  not  know  what  these  men  in  their  minds  are  pledged  to. 

It  would  come  to  me  as  a  very  terrible  shock  if  I  found  out  that  these 
charges  being  made  here  in  terms  of  their  being  foreign  agents  are 
true.  That  would  come  to  me  genuinely  as  a  very  surprised  shock,  but 
I  must  say,  not  in  defense  but  in  honesty,  that  at  no  time  in  discussions 
have  I  ever  heard — or  films — these  men  make  any  remarks  or  attempt 
to  get  anything  subversive  into  the  films  I  have  worked  on  with  them. 
I  must  say  that  in  honesty. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Well,  INIr.  Schary,  you  saw  them  here  this  afternoon 
given  every  opportunity  to  answer  the  questions 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Whether  or  not  they  were  ever  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Schary.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  heard  the  investigator  for  this  committee 
read  the  name,  date,  number,  and  place  of  their  Communist  member- 
ship. 

Mr.  Schary.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mv.  Stripling.  There  has  been  no  denial  from  these  two  gentlemen. 

ISIr.  Schary.  That  is  right,  sir.  I  can  perhaps  disagree  with  their 
method  of  answering  this  question.  I  must  say  that  there  probably 
remains  some  area  of  doubt  about  their  right  to  answer  that  way.  I 
personally  would  disagree  with  their  method. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  have  you  employed  at  your  studio  a  person  by 
the  name  of  Bertholcl  Brecht  ? 

Mr.  Schary.  Repeat  that,  please  ? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Berthold  Brecht,  B-e-r-t-h-o-l-cl  B-r-e-c-h-t. 

Mr.  Schary.  No,  sir ;  I  never  have. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  has  never  been  employed  at  RKO  ? 

Mr.  Schary.  No,  sir ;  not  while  I  have  been  there,  not  that  I  know 
of ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Getting  back  to  Mr.  Eisler  again,  Mr.  Schary.  If 
Mr.  Eisler,  as  one  who  had  taken  out  citizenship  papers  in  the  United 
States,  were  to  send  a  cablegram  to  a  foreign  government  in  which  he 
quotes : 

It  gives  us  courage  in  the  struggle  and  binds  us  to  give  all  our  strength  in 
the  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union. 


474  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Would  you  say  that  his  allegiance  was  completely  with  the  United 
States  or  possibly  with  the  Soviet  Union? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  No,  sir.     If  that  is  a  fact,  then,  of  course 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  sent  the  following  message. 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Then  there  is  no  doubt  about  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Then  would  you  consider  that  Mr.  Eisler  should 
remain  employed  in  the  motion-picture  industry  ?  I  am  not  relating 
it  to  your  studio,  but  do  you  think,  for  example,  that  a  man  with  the 
notorious  record  Mr.  Eisler  has,  and  who  has  written  the  most  revolu- 
tionary music,  and — I  am  speaking  from  the  standpoint  of  words  in 
the  music;  I  am  not  speaking  of  the  score 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  he  attacks  our  entire  system  over  and  over  again, 
a  man  who  heads  up  a  bureau  with  headquarters  in  Moscow  with  the 
avowed  purpose  of  destroying  capitalism  throughout  the  world,  do 
you  think  he  has  a  place  or  is  entitled  to  draw  as  much  as  $26,000  a 
year  from  the  motion-picture  industry  and  to  write  the  score  for  pic- 
tures as  prominent  as  None  But  the  Lonely  Heart,  and  others? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Well,  Mr.  Stripling,  as  1  stated,  if  this  is  fact,  of 
course  I  agree  with  you  and,  of  course,  he  shouldn't  be. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Schary,  I  have  here  a  letter  written  on 
the  letterhead  of  the  Vanguard  Films,  Inc.,  Culver  City,  Calif.,  office 
of  Dore  Schary,  dated  April  17,  1915.  It  is  written  to  Mr.  Emmett 
Lavery,  care  of  Mrs.  Pauline  Lauber,  Hollywood  Writers  Mobiliza- 
tion. Subject:  Writers'  assignments  for  Hollywood  Bowl  memorial 
program,  April  23.^*     It  states : 

Dear  Emmett  :  I  am  enclosing  herewith  a  list  of  the  writing  assignments  of 
the  Hollywood  Bowl  memorial  program  to  be  presented  April  23.  Following  the 
list  of  assignments  we  will  state  the  tentative  continuity  for  the  show.  We  are 
rushing  these  assignments  to  you  by  messenger  so  that  you  can  contact  the 
writers.  The  continuity  of  the  show  will  follow  in  a  couple  of  hours  after  we 
have  completed  work  on  it.  The  writers  who  will  do  the  over-all  narration  and 
who  will  be  most  concerned  with  the  complete  continuity  of  the  show  are  Helen 
Deutsch,  Maxwell  Anderson,  and  Leonardo  Bercovici. 

Then  it  states : 

Mayor  Bowron's  speech,  2%  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Mary  McCall. 

T>^  you  know  Mary  McCall? 

]VIr.  Schary.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

County  Representative  Smith's  speech,  2^2  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Maurice 
Rapf. 

Do  you  know  Maurice  Rapf  ? 
Mr.  Schary.  That  is  right.  . 
Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

Federal  Judge  .T.  T.  F.  O'Connor,  2^^  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Faragob. 

Do  you  know  Francis  Faragoh? 

Mr.  Schary.   Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

Gov.  Earl  Warren,  5  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Emmett  Lavery. 

Do  you  know  Mr.  Lavery  ? 
Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  sir. 


^*  See  appendix,  p.  548,  for  exhibit 


COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  475 

Mr.  STKirLixo  (reading-)  : 

Note  to  Mary  McCall :  Mayor  Bowron's  speech  will  open  the  program  and  will 
include  the  theuie  of  the  program. 

Dramatization  of  President  Roosevelt's  record.  The  details  of  tiiis  will  be 
discussed  at  a  general  meeting  for  all  the  writers,  10  minutes,  to  be  written  by 
Alvah  Bessie — • 

Do  you  know  Mr.  Bessie? 

]\Ir.  ScHAKY.    No;  I  did  not  know  liim  at  the  time.     I  knew  him 
after  that. 
Mr.  STRiPLi>rG  (reading)  : 

Leon  Meadows  and  Abe  Polansky. 

The  United  Nations  Section  (this  section  will  also  be  detailed  at  the  writers' 
conference),  15  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Vladimir  Pozner  and  King  Lardner. 

Mr.  SciiARY.  .Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

The  Human  Side  of  President  Roosevelt,  5  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Harry 
Trivers,  Abe  Burroughs,  Harry  Kurnitz,  and  Abe  Polansky. 
The  section  of  the  program  that  will  segue  from 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Segue. 

Mr.  Stripling  (reading)  : 

from  the  memorial  to  President  Roosevelt  to  the  pledge  of  support  to  President 
Truman,  3  minutes,  to  be  written  by  Paul  Green. 

Pledge  of  Allegiance  to  the  Ideals  of  Mr.  Roosevelt  and  to  the  Future,  1  minute, 
to  be  written  by  Dalton  Trumbo.  Introduction  to  the  Pledge  of  Allegiance,  2 
minutes,  to  be  written  by  Dalton  Trumbo. 

By  the  time  you  get  this  letter  we  will  have  called  you  on  the  telephone  and 
asked  for  your  help  in  arranging  a  meeting  for  all  the  writers  this  afternoon. 
Thank  you. 

Sincerely, 

DORE   SCHARY. 

Mr.  ScHARY.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Schary,  I  read  this  letter  for  one  purpose. 
Several  of  the  writers  who  are  assigned  here  to  do  certain  portions 
of  the  program  have  been  identified  before  this  committee  as  being 
members  of  the  Communist  Party.  They  have  likewise  refused  to  deny 
that  they  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party.  If  you  had  such  an 
assignment  to  do  over  again,  would  you  call  upon  men  who  had  been 
identified  before  a  Committee  of  Congress  and  men  who  had  refused 
to  deny  before  a  conmiittee  of  Congress,  to  write  these  various  assign- 
ments ? 

Mr.  SciTARY.  If  I  were  assigned  today  as  I  was  at  that  time  by  the 
city  to  do  a  memorial  program  to  President  Roosevelt,  some  of  my 
selections  on  that  list  might  be  ditferent. 

At  the  time  that  memorial  was  written  it  was  shortly  after  the  death 
of  Franklin  Roosevelt.  These  writers  were  all  people  connected  with 
the  War  Mobilization  Board  and  I  asked  for  help  in  the  arranging  of 
this  program  because  we  were  desperately  in  need  of  time. 

I  can  only  say  again  that  these  men  at  that  time  wrote  speeches  that 
I  thought  were  very  American  and  very  much  in  tribute  to  the  Presi- 
dent.   They  had  nothing  subversive  in  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Schary,  do  you  think  or  do  you  consider  that 
threre  is  any  Comnmnist  influence  in  tlie  motion-picture  industry  in 
any  field,  which  is  definitely  a  disrupting  influence  or  force  within 
the  motion-picture  industry? 


476  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  ScHARY.  I  think  there  are  Communists  in  Hollywood.    No  one 

at  any  time  would  care  to  deny  that.  That  has  been  testified  here, 
and  I  would  be  glad  to  testify  that  I  believe  there  are  Communists 
in  Hollywood,  but  again  testimony  has  revealed  that  these  people  at 
any  time  they  have  tried  to  dominate  guilds  and  unions  have  been 
defeated. 

I  think  the  large  segment  of  Hollywood,  represented,  I  think,  very 
ably  this  morning  by  Mr.  La  very,  like  most  Americans  of  a  middle- 
of-the-road  group — some  of  them  may  be  left  of  center,  some  right, 
but  essentially  middle-of-the-road  people.  ^ 

Whenever  the  Communist  attempts  to  dominate  any  organization  in 
Hollywood  he  is  defeated  and  for  that  reason,  while  I  believe  there 
are  Communists,  I  don't  think  they  have  any  weight  either  in  the 
organizations  of  Hollywood  or  in  tlie  actual  things  that  appear  on 
the  screen. 

I  think  that  since  we  are  investigating  im|)artially — and  I  shall  be 
very  happy  to  continue  that  investigation  impartially — we  should  talk 
about  the  actual  things  that  get  on  the  screen  and  I  think  to  that  end, 
I  don't  know  of  any  subversive  films  ever  made,  I  just  don't. 

The  Chairman.  I  want  to  say  to  you  in  answer,  in  the  first  place, 
I  want  to  make  it  very  clear  that  your  appearance  here  today  is  no 
reflection  on  you. 

]Mr.  ScHARY.  Thank  you,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  We  are  very  pleased  to  have  you.  In  regard  to  the 
scripts  and  the  pictures,  investigators  of  this  committee  now  are 
making  a  very  thorough  study  of  some  of  the  pictures. 

Mr.  ScHARY.   Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  It  is  very  likely  that  in  another  phase  of  these  hear- 
ings we  will  devote  all  of  our  time  to  just  that  thing. 

I  feel  as  you  do,  Mr.  Schary,  that  your  industry  is  just  like  many 
other  industries,  there  are  a  number  of  Communists  in  it.  The  influ- 
ence of  the  Communists  in  the  industry — the  influence  is  far  out  of 
proportion  with  the  number  of  Communists  in  the  industry,  let  me  put 
it  that  way.  But  the  mere  fact  that  it  is  there  deserves  our  attention. 
I  know  you  and  your  associates  out  there  want  us  to  give  it  our  atten- 
tion. That  is  our  job  so  we  are  going  to  do  that,  we  are  going  to  con- 
tinue to  do  that. 

Mr.  Vail,  do  you  have  something? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  on  that  point,  could  I 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  I  ask  you  this  question,  Mr.  Schary? 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  now  producing,  is  your  company  producing 
a  picture  based  upon  the  book  entitled,  "Rachael"  written  by  Howard 
Fast? 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes,  that  is  a  short  story  called  "Rachael." 

Mr.  Stripling.  Written  by  Howard  Fast? 

Mr,  Schary.  Yes.  It  was  purchased — I  think  the  studio  has  owned 
it  since  1936. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  the  Communist  record  of 
Howard  F'ast  ? 

Mr.  Schary.  I  am  familiar  with  it,  yes. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  477 

Mr.  SiTtiPLiNG.  He  is  a  publicly  avowed  Communist? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes;  that  is  right. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  no  objection,  then,  to  producing  the  works 
of  Communists? 

Mr.  ScHARY.  The  point  I  want  to  make,  Mr.  Stripling,  is  that  I  did 
not  purchase  the  story  Rachael.  That  was  purchased  before  I  got 
there.  When  I  got  there  and  reviewed  the  material  there  was  a  script 
already  written,  a  script  of  Rachael,  and  I  found  it,  I  must  say,  a  very 
charming  story,  not  political  whatsoever.  It  is  a  picture  of  American 
pioneer  life  in  the  early  1800's  and,  as  a  mater  of  fact,  the  film  has 
been  completed.    There  is  nothing  whatever  political  in  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  I  have. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  Mr.  Schary,  I  have  been  very  much  interested  in  your 
testimony,  and  I  am  in  complete  accord  with  your  temperate  and  tol- 
erant attitude.  I  think  we  all  feel  that  way,  but  to  my  way  of  thinking 
a  new  situation  has  arisen  in  America  today  that  is  not  covered  com- 
pletely by  the  law.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  this  committee  is  sitting  for 
the  purpose  of  considering  the  situation  as  it  applies  to  Hollywood,  so 
that  we  may  get  a  general  picture  of  what  is  going  on  in  the  country  so 
that  it  can  make  its  recommendations  with  respect  to  legislation  to  the 
Congress  when  it  convenes. 

It  is  my  thought  that  the  American  people,  while  maintaining  an 
attitude  of  tolerance,  should  also  maintain  an  alert  attitude  to  prevent 
further  inroads  of  this  menace  to  its  welfare. 

Now,  in  your  own  case,  you  have  admitted  that  Hanns  Eisler  was 
employed  in  your  studio  for  some  little  time ;  you  associated  with  him, 
and  yet  it  took  this  connnittee  to  alert  you  insofar  as  the  real  nature 
of  his  activities  were  concerned;  isn't  that  true? 

Mr.  Schary.  Yes.  As  I  said,  I  did  not  know  Hanns  Eisler  was  a 
Communist  until — or  reputedly  a  Communist,  I  should  say,  until  this 
record  was  shown  me — until,  rather,  I  heard  it  before.  The  point  I 
make,  however,  was  that  he  was  not  employed  by  me  at  the  time.  The 
question  of  em})l()yment  then  came  up  later  on  with  Mr.  Stripling. 
As  far  as  the  other  points  you  make,  Mr.  Congressman,  certainly 
I  believe  that  America  and  the  American  people  should  be  alerted  and 
very  vigilantly  alwut  their  prerogatives. 

My  point  is  that  they  are.  I  believe  they  are  very  alert  and  very 
vigilant  and  this  is  why  conmiunism,  I  believe,  has  not  gotten  any 
kind  of  a  hold  politically  in  the  United  States  whatever.  I  don't  think 
it  has  anything  to  offer  the  American  people. 

Mr.  Vail.  I  appreciate  the  fact  that  it  has  nothing  to  offer  the  Amer- 
ican people,  but  when  you  say  it  has  made  no  progress  in  this  country, 
of  course  I  disagree  with  you.  Perhaps  we  have  more  information 
concerning  the  development  of  communism  in  this  country  than  you 
have. 

Mr.  Schary.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Vail.  And  certainly  we  are  quite  watchful.  We  are  well  aware 
of  the  connnunistic  activity  in  Government  circles,  incidentally.  It  is 
our  business  to  be  alert  to  those  things  and  it  is  your  business,  ap- 
parently, to  follow  your  screen  duties.  That  is  one  of  the  reasons 
why  the  activities  of  Mr.  Eisler  escaped  your  attention,  but  they  did 
not  escape  ours.     That  is  the  point  I  am  bringing  out. 

67683 — 47 31 


478  COMMUNISM   IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTHY 

Mr.  ScHARY.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Vail.  And  I  think  we  have  made  you  more  coniscious  since  your 
experience  with  Mr.  Eisler  and  the  knowledge  you  now  possess  con- 
cerning Mr.  Eisler,  of  the  fact  that  Communists  exist  where  you 
perhaps  didn't  think  they  existed  before,  and  if  we  perfoi-m  the  same 
service  with  others,  with  other  Americans,  we  will  have  done  the  jol> 
to  which  we  were  assigned. 

Mr.  ScHAKY.  I  respect  that.  Mr.  Congressman.  I  would  only  like 
to  nuike  one  connnent,  if  I  may,  sir,  that  I  honestly  believe  tJuit  the 
people  in  Holywood,  management,  labor  groups,  guilds  themselves, 
are  vevy,  very  conscious  and  very  aware  of  their  heritage  as  Americans. 
They  are  called  upon  by  the  Government  of  the  United  States  very 
often  to  express  and  perform  those  prerogatives. 

I  just  want  you  to  know  that  our  concern  about  it  and  our  desire 
to  keep  all  American  rights  is  just  as  keen  as  yours. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  have  no  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Schary,  and  don't  for- 
get what  I  said  about  Rip  Van  Winkle.     [Laughter.] 

Mr.  ScHxVRY.  Thank  you,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  The  committee  will  stand  adjourned  to  meet  at 
10 :  30  tomorrow  morning. 

(Whereupon,  at  3 :10  p.  m.,  an  adjournment  was  taken  to  10 :  30  a.  m. 
of  the  following  day,  Thursday,  October  30, 1947.) 


"^  See  appendix,  p. ,  for  exhibit  93. 


HEAR1N(}  REGARDING  THE  COMMUNIST  INFILTRA- 
TION OF  THE  MOTION-PICTURE  INDUSTRY 


THURSDAY,    OCTOBER   30,    1947 

House  of  RErKESENTAxivEs, 
('o:M.MriTEE  ox  Ux- American  Activities, 

Wa^'ihingfon,  D.  O. 

The  coniiiiittee  met  iit  10:  'M)  a.  ni.,  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  (chair- 
man) presiding. 

The  CHAiiniAX.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order.  Everyone  please 
be  seated. 

Tlie  reconl  will  show  thai  a  snbcomniittee  is  sitting,  consisting  of 
Mr.  McDowell.  Mr.  Vail,  and  Mr.  Thomas. 

Statt'  members  present :  Mr.  Kobert  K.  Stripling,  chief  investigator; 
Messrs.  Louis  J.  Russell  and  Robert  B.  Gaston,  investigators;  and 
Mr.  Benjamin  Mandel.  director  of  research. 

Mr.  Kennv.     Is  Mr.  Kenny  in  the  room? 

Mr.  Kexxy.  Yes.  sir. 

The  C'liAiK.AiAX'.  Ml".  Crum  t 

Mr.  ('him.  Yes.  sii-. 

Tlie  Chaiioiax'.  Will  you  please  come  to  the  chairman's  desk. 

(Conference  at  bench.) 

'riie  CiiAiRMAx.  The  committee  will  go  into  executive  session.  We 
will  be  in  recess  for  about  10  minutes. 

Mr.  Stripling,  will  you  come  with  the  committee? 

Mr.  Stkipeixo.  Yes,  sir. 

(  There  was  a  recess  taken  from  10 :  35  to  10:  42  a.  m.) 

The  CnAiK:\rAx.  The  committee  will  come  to  order. 

Mr.  Stripling,  first  witness. 

Mr.  Striplix(;.  Mr.  Ring  Lardner.  Jr. 

The  CiiAiRMAX.  Mr.  Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

Ml'.  Lardner.  Avill  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please.  You  solemnly 
swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is  the  truth,  the  whole  truth, 
and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  yon  God  ? 

Mr.  Larox'er.  I  do. 

The  C'liAiRMAX.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  RING  LARDNER,  JR.,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
MR.  KENNY  AND  MR.  CRUM 

Mr.  STRipr,ixG.  Mr.  Lardner,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name 
and  present  address? 

Mr.  Lardxer.  Ring  W.  Lardner,  Jr.,  325  Georgina  Avenue,  Santa 
Monica.  Calif. 

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480  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born.  Mr.  Lardner? 

Mr.  Lakdxek.  On  August  19,  1915,  in  Chicago.  111. 

Mr.  Stripling,  AVhat  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Lardner.  A  writer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Hoav  long  have  you  been  a  writer? 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  have  been  a  writer  about  10  years. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  a  short  statement  I  would  like  to  make. 

The  Chairman.  Have  you  completed  the  identification? 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  sufficient. 

(The  witness  hands  statement  to  the  chairman.) 

Mr.  Crum.  Have  you  a  co]3y  for  Mr.  Stripling? 

Mr.  Lardner.  Yes. 

^(The  witness  hands  statement  to  Mr.  Stripling.) 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Lardner.  the  committee  is  unanimous  in  the 
fact  that  after  you  testify  you  may  read  your  statement. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Thank  you. 

JVlr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lardner,  you  are  here  before  the  committee  in 
response  to  a  subpena  served  upon  you  on  September  '22;  is  that 
correct  ?  ^^ 

Mr.  Lardner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lardner,  are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild? 

Mr.  Lardner.  Mr.  Stripling,  I  want  to  be  cooperative  about  this, 
but  there  are  certain  limits  to  my  cooperation.  I  don't  want  to  help 
you  divide  or  smash  this  particular  guild,  or  to  infiltrate  the  motion- 
picture  business  in  any  way  for  the  purpose  which  seems  to  me  to  be 
to  try  to  control  that  business,  to  control  what  the  American  people 
can  see  and  hear  in  their  motion-picture  theaters. 

The  Chairman.  Now,  Mr.  Lardner,  don't  do  like  the  others,  if  I 
were  you,  or  you  will  never  read  your  statement.     I  would  suggest 

Mr.  Lardner.  Mr.  Chairman,  let  me 

The  Chairman.  You  be  responsive  to  the  question. 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  am 

The  Chairman.  The  question  is,  and  I  will  ask  it ;  I  will  repeat  the 
question. 

Mr.  Lardner.  All  right. 

The  Chairman.  The  question  is:  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild? 

Mr!  Lardner.  But  I  understood  you  to  say  that  I  would  be  permitted 
to  read  the  statement,  Mr.  Chairman. 

The  Chairman.  Yes;  after  you  are  finished  with  the  questions  and 
answers 

Mr.  Lardner.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  But  you  certainly  haven't  answered  the  questions. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Well,  I  am  going  to  answer  the  questions  but  I  don't 
think  you  qualified  in  any  way  your  statement  that  I  would  be  allowed 
to  read  this  statement. 

The  Chairman.  Then  I  will  qualify  it  now.  If  you  refuse  to  an- 
swer the  questions  then  you  Avill  not  read  your  statement. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Well,  I  know  that  is  an  indirect  way  of  saying  you 
don't  want  me  to  read  the  statement. 


'^  See  appendix,  p.  548,  for  exhibit  89. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  481 

The  CiiAuniAx.  Tlieii  you  know  ii<>lit  now  you  are  not  going  to  an- 
swer the  question :  is  tliat  correct  'I 

Mr.  L'ardxer.  No  ;  I  am  going  to  answer  tl)e  question. 

The  CiiAiHMAx.  AH  right,  then;  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Lakdxer.  All  right,  sir.  I  think  these  points  I  am  bringing 
out  are  relevant  to  the  question  because  I  have  to  ccmsider  why  the 
question  is  asked 

The  Chairman.  We  will  determine  why  the  question  was  asked. 
We  want  to  Icnow  whether  you  are  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild. 

Mr.  Laruxkr.  Yes 

The  Chairmax.  That  is  a  very  simple  question.  You  can  answer 
that  "yes"  or  ''no.''  You  don't  have  to  go  into  a  long  harangue  or 
speech.  If  you  want  to  make  a  speech  you  know  where  you  can  go  out 
there. 

Mr.  Lardxkr.  Well,  I  am  not  very  good  in  haranguing,  and  I  won't 
try  it,  but  it  seems  to  me  that  if  you  can  make  me  answer  this  question, 
tomorrow  you  could  ask  somebody  whether  he  believed  in  spiritualism. 

The  CiiAiRMAX'.  Oh,  no;  there  is  no  chance  of  our  asking  anyone 
whether  they  believe  in  spiritualism,  and  you  know  it.  That  is  just 
plain  silly. 

Mr.  Lardxer.  You  might 

The  Chairmax.  Now,  you  haven't  learned  your  lines  very  well. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Well 

The  Chairmax^  I  Avant  to  know  whether  you  can  answer  the  ques- 
tion "yes"  or  "no." 

^Ir.  Lardx'er.  If  you  did,  for  instance,  ask  somebody  about  that  you 
might  ask  him 

The  CiiAiRMAX'.  Well,  now,  never  mind  what  we  might  ask  him. 
We  are  asking  vou  now,  Are  vou  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild? 

^Ir.  Lardxer.  But 

The  Chairman.  You  are  an  American 

Mr.  Lardxer.  But  that  is  a  question- 


The  Chairmax'.  And  Americans  should  not  be  afraid  to  answer 
that. 

Mr.  Lardxer.  Yes ;  but  I  am  also  concerned  as  an  American  with  the 
question  of  whether  this  committee  has  the  right  to  ask  me 

The  CiiAiRisiAX.  AVell,  we  have  got  the  right  and  until  you  prove 
that  we  haven't  got  the  right  then  you  have  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Lardxer.  As  I  said,  if  you  ask  somebodj^  say,  about 
spiritualism 

The  Chairman.  You  are  a  witness,  aren't  you?  Aren't  you  a 
witness? 

Mr.  Lardxer.  ]\Ir.  Chairman 

The  CiiAiR^iAx.  Aren't  you  a  witness  here? 

Mr.  Lardxer.  Yes ;  I  am. 

The  Chairmax.  All  right,  then,  a  congressional  committee  is  ask- 
ing you :  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ?  Now  you 
answer  it  "yes"'  or  "no." 

Mr.  Lardxer.  Well,  I  am  saying  that  in  order  to  answer  that 

The  Chairmax-.  All  right,  put  the  next  question.  Go  to  the  $64 
question. 


482  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Witness.  I  haven't 

The  Chair:max.  (io  to  the  next  question. 

Mr.  Strii'Lin(j.  Mv.  Lardner,  are  you  now  oi-  have  you  ever  been  a 
//jnember  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Lardnek.  Well,  I  would  like  to  answer  that  question,  too. 

Mr.  STRiPLiNCi.  Mr.  Lardner,  the  charjje  has  been  made  before  this 
committee  that  the  Screen  AVriters  Guild  which,  according:  to  the 
record,  you  are  a  member  of,  whether  you  admit  it  or  not,  has  a  num- 
ber of  individuals  in  it  who  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party. 
This  committee  is  seeking  to  determine  the  extent  of  Connnunist  in- 
filtration in  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  and  in  other  g:uilds  within  the 
motion-picture  industry. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  certainly  the  question  of  whether  or  not  you 
are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  is  very  pertinent.  Now,  are  you 
a  member  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Lardner.  It  seems  to  me  you  are  trying  to  discredit  the  Screen 
Writers  Guild  through  me  and  the  motion-picture  industry  through 
the  Screen  Writers  (hiild  and  our  whole  practice  of  freedom  of  expres- 
sion. 

Mr.  Stripling.  If  you  and  others  are  members  of  the  Connnunist 
Party  you  are  the  ones  who  are  discrediting  the  Screen  Writers  Guild. 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  am  trying  to  answer  the  question  by  stating  first 
what  I  feel  about  the  purpose  of  the  question  which,  as  I  say,  is  to 
discredit  the  whole  motion-picture  industry. 

The  Chairman.  You  won't  say  anything  first.  You  are  refusing 
to  answer  this  question. 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  am  saying  my  understanding  is  as  an  American 
resident 

The  Chairman.  Never  mind  your  understanding.  There  is  a  ques- 
tion: Are  you  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Commimist 
Party? 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  could  answer  exactly  the  way  you  want,  Mr.  Chair- 
man  

The  Chairman.  No- 


Mr.  Lardner  (continuing).  But  I  think  that  is  a- 

'  The  Chairman.  It  is  not  a  question  of  our  wanting  you  to  answer 
that.  It  is  a  very  simple  question.  Anybody  would  be  proud  to  an- 
swer it — any  real  American  would  be  proud  to  answer  the  question, 
"Are  you  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party" — 
any  real  American. 

Mr.  Lardner.  It  depends  on  the  circumstances.     I  could  answer  it, 
but  if  I  did  I  would  hate  myself  in  the  morning. 

The  Chairman.  Leave  the  witness  chair. 

Mr.  Lardner.  It  was  a  question  that  would 

The  Chairman.  Leave  the  witness  chair. 

Mr.  Lardner.  Because  it  is  a  question 

The  Chairman  (pounding  gavel).  Leave  the  witness  chair. 

Mr.  Lardner.  I  think  I  am  leaving  by  force. 

The  Chairman.  Sergeant,  take  the  witness  away. 

( Applause. ) 

The  Chair:man.  Mr.  Stripling,  next  witness. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russgll,  will  you  take  the  stand,  please? 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  483 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOUIS  J.  RUSSELL 

Mr,  STKii'LiN(i.  Mr.  Russell,  you  are  an  investigator  for  the  Com- 
luittee  on  Un-American  Activities? 

Mr.  RussEix.  I  am,  sir. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  have  previously  been  sworn  in  this  hearing? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  have. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  were  detailed  to  make  an  investigation  to  deter- 
mine whether  or  not  Ring  Lardner.  Jr.,  vas  ever  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Russell.  I  was. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Will  you  give  the  committee  the  benefit  of  your 
investigation  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  l)in-ing  the  course  of  my  investigation  I  obtained  in- 
formation regarding  the  Comnmiiist  Party  registration  card  of  Ring 
Lardner,  Jr.  This  card  bears  the  nuuiber  47180.  It  is  made  out  in 
the  luime  of  Ring  L.,  which,  during  the  course  of  the  investigation, 
developed  to  be  the  name  of  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  as  contained  on  his 
Communist  Party  registration  card. 

This  card  contains  a  notation  :  "1944  Card  No.  46806." 

The  address  of  Ring  Lardner  is  given  as  447  Loring,  L-o-r-i-n-g; 
city,  Los  Angeles;  county,  Los  Angeles;  State,  California. 
'  The  card  contains  a  notation,  "New  card  issued  on  November  30, 
1944.'- '«  ■ 

Tlie  description  of  Ring  Lardner  as  contained  on  the  card  is  as 
follows:  "Male:  occupation,  writer;  industry,  M.  picture." 

The  question  is  then  asked :  "Member  of  CIO,  A.  F.  of  L.,  independ- 
ent union,  no  union"  ^     "Inde[)endent  union"  is  checked. 

Another  (]uestion  asked  is:  "Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily 
Worker"  ?     The  answer,  "Yes"  is  checked. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  all,  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Chairman,  the  committee  has  prepared  a  memorandum  concern- 
ing the  Connnunist  affiliations  of  Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

Ac-coi'diiij''  to  the  International  Motion  Picture  Almanac  and  other  sources. 
King  Lardner,  Jr.,  has  written  the  followins;  films:  Meet  Dr.  Christian,  RKO, 
1!».S'.»;  Tlie  Courageous  Dr.  Christian.  KKO,  1940;  Arkansas  Judge,  Repuhlic.  1941 : 
W<  man  of  tlie  Year,  MGM,  1942;  The  Cross  of  Lorraine,  MGM,  1044;  Tomorrow 
the  World.  United  Artists.  1944:  Cloak  and  Dagger,  Warner  Bros.,  1946. 

The  files,  records,  and  imhlications  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
contain  th<'  following  information  concerning  the  Communist-frt)nt  affiliations  of 
King  Lardnei-.  Jr. : 

1.  Under  date  of  August  22,  1940,  the  Hollywood  Reporter,  a  puhlication  in 
Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  carried  an  editorial  headed  "More  Red  Commissars."  This 
cditos  Angeles  in 
November  1944.  Among  those  listed  as  sponsors  were  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  John 
Howard  Lawson,  Mrs.  Charlotta  A.  Bass,  Mrs.  Dalton  Trumho,  and  Edward 
Dmytryk. 

3.  Geoi'ge  Dimitroff,  the  former  general  secretary  of  the  Communist  Inter- 
national, was  honored  by  a  declaration  issued  by  the  Reichstag  Fire  Trial  Anni- 
versary Committee.  According  to  the  New  York  Times  of  DcM-ember  22,  1943, 
page  40,  Ring  Lardner,  Jr..  was  a  signer  of  this  declaration  which  paid  honor  to 
Dimiti-off  The  Reichstag  Fire  Trial  Anniversary  Committee  was  cited  as  a 
Conimuin'st  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the 
repoi't  of  March  29,  1944. 

4.  The  California  Action  Conference  for  Civil  Rights  was  cited  by  the  California 
Joint  Fact-Finding  Committee  as  being  "Communist  inspired  and  dominated." 
The  People's  Daily  World  of  September  27,  1941,  lists  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  as  ^^ 
sponsor  of  the  California  Action  Conference  for  Civil  Riffhts. 

In  the  spring  of  1946,  the  Civil  Rights  Congress,  205  East  Forty-second  Street, 
New  York  City,  issued  a  pamphlet  entitled  "Urgent  Summons  to  a  Congress  on 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  485 

Civil  Rights."  This  paiiiphlt't  c.-ilk'd  upon  civil  rights,  labor,  religious,  racial, 
and  other  organizations  and  individuals  to  attend  a  Congress  on  Civil  Rights 
in  I>etroit  on  April  27-28,  1940,  to  formulate  and  agree  upon  a  national  program 
to  defeat  the  offensive  and  reactionary  and  Fascist  forces  and  to  assure  the 
maxiiHum  ututication  of  effort  to  advance  that  program.  The  summons  con- 
tained a  partial  list  of  sponsors.  This  list  included  the  name  of  Ring  W. 
Lardner,  Jr. 

The  Civil  Rights  Congress  is  the  successor  to  the  International  Labor  Defense, 
legal  arm  of  the  Communist  Party. 

;").  The  American  Friends  of  Spanish  Democracy  and  the  Veterans  of  the 
Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  were  a  part  of  the  Comnnniist  Party  program  to 
provide  aid  and  assistance  to  the  Spanish  Loyalists  in  response  to  instructions 
received  from  the  Conmiunist  International  at  the  Seventh  Communist  Inter- 
natitmal  Congress  held  in  1035  in  Moscow.  The  American  Friends  of  Spanish 
Democracy  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  by  the  Special  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of  March  29,  1944,  and  by  the  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  rei>orts  of  June  12,  1947,  and  September  2,  1947, 
The  Daily  Worker  of  April  8,  1939,  page  4,  states  that  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  was 
affiliated  with  this  organization  as  a  signer  of  a  petition  to  lift  the  arms  embargo 
which  the  American  Friends  of  Spanish  Democracy  sponsored.  His  affiliation 
with  the  Veterans  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  is  shown  by  the  New  Masses 
of  April  2,  1940.  page  21,  which  lists  him  as  a  signer  of  a  letter  which  that 
organization  sent  to  the  President  of  the  United  States.  The  Veterans  of 
the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  was  cited  as  a  Comnnmist  front  by  the  Special 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  in  the  report  of  March  29,  1944,  and  as 
"under  Communist  control"  by  Professor  John  Dewey,  chairman  of  the  Com- 
mittee for  Cultural  Freedom,  April  1940. 

6.  The  League  of  American  Writers  was  affiliated  with  the  International  Union 
of  Revolutionary  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  and  has  been  jiledged 
to  the  defense  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  the  "Use  of  art  as  an  instrument  of  the 
class  struggle."  The  Special  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  cited  it  as  a 
Conmuuiist  front  in  the  reports  of  January  3,  1940,  June  25,  1942.  and  March  29, 
1944.  It  was  also  cited  by  former  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle  in  these 
words:  "The  overt  activities  of  the  League  of  American  Writei"s  in  the  last  2 
years  leave  little  doubt  of  its  Communist  control"  (Congressional  Recoi-d,  Sep- 
tember 24.  1942,  page  7686).  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker 
of  Septenibei'  14,  1942,  page  7.  and  People's  Woi'ld  of  September  23,  1942,  page  5, 
was  a  signei*  of  a  statement  of  tlie  League  of  American  Writers  in  behalf  of  a 
second  front.  He  was  also  affiliated  with  the  Hollywood  ci)ai)ter  of  the  league 
of  American  Writers  as  a  signer  of  the  cable  sent  to  Leon  Blum,  President  Roose- 
velt, and  Secretary  Hull  for  supplies  to  Loyalist  Spain,  as  shown  bv  the  New 
Masses  of  Mai-ch  29,  1938,  page  21. 

7.  The  Writers  Congress  was  sponsored  by  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobiliza- 
tion which  is  the  successor  to  the  Hollywood  bi-anch  of  the  League  of  American 
Writers.  The  program  of  the  Writers  Congress,  1943,  lists  Ring  Lardner,  Jr., 
as  the  chairman  of  the  panel  on  minority  groujis. 

8.  Tlie  Oi)en  Letter  to  American  Liberals  was  a  denunciation  of  the  efforts 
made  to  defend  Leon  Trotsky  and  a  reaffirmation  of  faith  in  the  Soviet  Union. 
It  also  defended  the  Moscow  triiils  which  were  characterized  by  forced  confes- 
sions and  \v'ere  staged  as  political  deuionstrati(»ns  rather  than  trials,  in  our  sense 
of  the  term.  The  Open  Letter  to  American  Liberals,  of  which  Ring  Lardner,  Jr., 
was  a  signer,  according  to  Soviet  Russia  Toda.v,  March  1937,  pages  14  and  15. 
was  cited  as  a  Communist-front  pro.iect  by  the  Special  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  in  the  rei)oi-t  of  June  25,  1942.  Soviet  Russia  Today  was  formerly  the 
publication  of  the  Friends  of  the  Soviet  Union  and  has  l)een  cited  as  a  Com- 
munist-front publication  by  the  Special  Committee  on  LTn-Ameriean  Activities 
on  June  25,  1942,  and  March  29.  1944.  and  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  on  June  12.  1947,  and  Seiiteinl)er  2.  1947. 

9.  The  Progressive  (^itizens  of  America  has  been  described  as  an  "allege:,  the  next  witness. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Lester  Cole. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Lester  Cole.     Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 
You  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is  the  truth, 
the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  yott  God? 
Mr.  Cole.  I  do. 
The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

TESTIMONY  OF  LESTER  COLE 

Mr.  Strii'lin(;.  Mr.  Cole,  will  you  please  state  your  full  name  and 
})resent  address? 

Mr.  Cole.  Lester  Cole,  15  Courtney  Avenue,  Hollywood,  Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Cole? 

Mr.  Cole.  I  was  born  June  19,  1904,  in  New  York  City. 

Mr.  Stripling.  "\Yliat  is  your  occupation? 

Mr.  Cole.  I  am  a  writer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  a  writer? 

Mr.  Cole.  For  a])proximately  15,  16  years. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  been  in  Hollywood? 

Mr.  Cole.  Since — I  fir.st  came  to  Hollywood  in  192(5 ;  I  left  and  went 
back  to  New  York  in  1929;  returned  in  1932,  and  have  been  there  ever 
since. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild? 

Mr.  Cole.  Mr.  Chairman,  T  woidd  like  at  this  time  to  make  a  state- 
ment (handing  statement  to  the  chairman). 

Mr.  McDowell.  I  think  it  is  insulting,  myself. 

The  Chairman.  This  statement  is  clearly  another  case  of  villifica- 
tion  and  not  pertinent  at  all  to  the  inquiry.  Therefore,  you  will  not 
read  the  statement. 


COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  487 

Mr.  Cole.  Well,  Mr.  Chinrinaii 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Striplin<>\  ask  the  first  question. 

Mr.  Cole.  Mr.  Chairiiiaii,  may  I  just  ask  if  I  do  not  read  my  state- 
ment  

The  Chairman.  You  will  not  ask  anything. 

Mr.  Cole.  Is  the  New  York  Times  editorial  pertinent — the  editorial 
in  the  Herald  Tribune  pertinent? 

The  Chairman.  Go  ahead  and  ask  the  question. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Cole,  are  you  a  member  of  the  Screen  Writers 
Guild? 

Mr.  CoLE.  I  would  like  to  answer  that  question  and  would  be  very 
happy  to.  I  believe  the  reason  tlic  (piestion  is  asked  is  to  help  en- 
lighten  

The  Chairman.  No,  no,  no,  no,  no. 

Mr.  Cole.  I  hear  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  hear  you,  I  am  sorry,  but 

The  Chairman.  You  will  hear  some  more. 

Mr.  Cole.  I  am  trying  to  make  these  statements  pertinent. 

The  Chairman.  Answer  the  question,  "Yes"  or  ">Jo." 

Mr.  Cole.  I  am  sorry,  sir,  but  I  have  to  answer  the  question  in  my 
own  way. 

The  Chairman.  It  is  a  very  simple  question, 

Mr.  Coi>E.  What  I  have  to  say  is  a  very  simple  answer. 

The  Chairman.  Yes;  but  answer  it  "Yes"  or  "No." 

Mr.  Cole.  It  isn't  necessarily  that  simple. 

The  Chairman.  If  you  answer  it  "Yes"  or  "No,"  then  you  can  make 
some  explanation. 

Mr.  Cole.  Well,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  really  must  answer  it  in  my  own 
way. 

The  Chairman.  You  decline  to  answer  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Cole.  Not  at  all,  not  at  all. 

The  Chairman.  Did  you  ask  the  witness  if  he  was  here  under 
subpena  ? 

Mr.  Cole.  What  is  it,  Mr.  Chairman?    I  beg  your  pardon? 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Cole,  you  are  here  under  subpena  served  upon 
you  on  September  19,  are  j-ou  not? 

Mr.  Cole.  Yes:  I  am. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  the  question  before  you  is:  Are  you  a  member 
of  the  Screen  Writers  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Cole.  I  understand  the  question,  and  I  think  I  know  how  I  can 
answer  it  to  the  satisfaction  of  the  committee.  I  wish  I  would  be 
permitted  to  do  so. 

The  Chairman.  Can't  you  answer  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Cole.  You  wouldn't  ])ermit  me  to  read  my  statement  and  the 
question  is  answered  in  ni}^  statement. 

The  Chairman.  Are  you  able  to  answer  the  question  "Yes"  or  "No," 
or  are  3'()U  unable  to  answer  it  "Yes"  or  "No?" 

Mr.  Cole.  I  am  not  able  to  answer  "Yes"  or  "No."  I  am  able,  and  I 
would  like  to  answer  it  in  my  own  way.  Haven't  I  the  right  accorded 
to  me,  as  it  was  to  Mr.  McGuinness  and  other  people  who  came  here? 

The  Chairman.  First,  we  want  you  to  answer  "Yes"  or  "No,"  then 
you  can  make  some  explanation  of  your  answer. 

Mr.  Cole.  I  understand  what  you  want,  sir.  I  wish  you  would 
understand  that  I  feel  I  nuist  make  an  answer  in  my  own  way,  because 
what  I  have  to  sav 


488  COMMUNISM   IN  MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

The  Chairman.  Then  you  decline  to  answer  the  question? 

Mr.  Cole.  No  ;  I  do  not  decline  to  answer  the  question.  On  the  con- 
trary, I  would  like  very  much  to  answer  it;  just  :  The  Affairs  of  Cappy 
Ricks,  Republic,  19;i7 ;  Beware  of  Ladies,  Republic,  1937:  P\»llow  Your  Heart, 
Republic,  19;:J7;  The  President's  Mystery,  Republic.  1937  ;  The  Man  in  Blue,  19:^7  ; 
The  Jury's  Secret,  W4H;  Midnight  Intruder,  Universal,  19;:i8;  The  Crime  of  Dr. 
Hallet,  Universal,  1938 ;  Sinners  in  Paradise.  Universal.  19:^8 ;  Secrets  of  a  Nurse, 
Universal,  1938;  Winter  Carnival,  United  Artists,  1939;  The  Big  Guy,  Universal, 
1939;  The  Invisible  Man  Returns,  Universal,  1939;  The  House  of  Seven  Gables. 
Universal,  1940;  Pacific  Blackout,  Paramount,  1941;  P'ootsteps  in  the  Dark, 
Warner  Bros.,  1941;  Night  Plane  for  Chunking.  Paramount.  1943;  Hostages, 
1943-44;  None  Shall  Escape,  194:^—14;  Ob.iective  Burma,  Blood  on  the  Sun.  and 
Romance  of  Rosey  Ridge. 

Mr.  Stkiplinu  (readino:).  The  files,  records,  and  publications  of  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  contain  the  following  concern- 
ing the  Comnumist-front  affiliations  of  Lester  Cole  : 

1.  While  the  records  of  this  committee  do  not  indicate  tliat  Lester  Cole  has 
publicly  admitted  membership  in  the  Communist  Party,  it  is  known  that  he  has 
supported  a  Communist  Party  candidate  for  election.  The  People's  World  of 
October  22,  1942,  page  2,  and  October  31,  1942,  page  3,  reveal  that  Lester  Cole 
supported  LaRue  McCormick,  the  Communist  Party  candidate  for  the  office  of 
State  senator  in  California  from  the  thirty-eighth  senatorial  district,  Los  Angeles 
County. 

2.  Lester  Cole  has  revealed  his  sympathies  with  the  Soviet  Union  as  witnessed 
by  his  signature  to  the  statement  made  by  American  Progressives  in  defense  of 
tlie  Moscow  trials.  (See  Daily  Worker,  April  2S.  19:iS.)  The  Moscow  trials 
aroused  world-wide  condemnation.  They  were  characterized  by  fon-ed  con- 
fe.ssious  and  were  staged  as  political  demonstrations  rather  tliati  trials  in  our 
sense  of  the  term. 

3.  The  Hollywood  Reporter,  edited  and  owned  liy  William  Wilkerson,  charged 
Lester  Cole  with  holding  Communist  Party  membership  book  No.  4G805  in  the 
northwest  (propaganda)  section  of  the  Communist  Party,  according  to  the  Holly- 
wood Reporter  of  August  19,  1946.  To  tlie  best  knowledge  of  this  committee, 
this  charge  was  never  denied  or  refuted  by  ]\Ir.  Cole. 

4.  The  Communist  press  was  active  in  the  support  of  the  petition  for  the 
pardon  of  Festus  Coleman,  of  which  Lester  Cole  was  a  signer,  according  to  the 
People's  World,  November  24,  1942,  page  1. 

.").  The  I^eague  of  Araerican  Writers,  an  affiliate  of  the  International  Union 
of  Revolutionary  Writers,  with  headquarters  in  Moscow,  has  been  pledged  to 
defend  tlie  Soviet  Union  and  "use  of  art  as  an  instrument  in  the  class  struggle." 
On  three  occasions  it  was  cited  as  a  Communist  front  iiy  the  Special  Committee 
on  Un-American  Activities  (i-eports  of  January  3,  1940,  June  25,  1942,  and  March 
29,  1944)  as  well  as  by  Attorney  General  Francis  Biddle,  who  said  in  the  Con- 
gressional Record  of  September  24,  1942,  page  7686.  "The  overt  .activities  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers  in  the  last  2  years  leave  little  doubt  of  its  Ccmi- 
muiust  control."  The  People's  World  of  February  11.  1943.  page  5,  lists  Lester 
Cole  as  a  speaker  at  the  League  of  American  Writers  School.  Also.  New  Masses 
of  April  22,  1941.  page  25  and  the  Daily  Worker  of  April  5.  1941.  page  7.  carry 
the  name  of  Lester  Cole  as  a  signer  of  the  Call  to  the  Fourth  Congi-ess  of  the 
League  of  American  Writers,  June  6-8.  1941,  New  York  City.  This  conference 
whicli  was  held  a  few  days  prior  to  Hitler's  attack  on  the  Soviet  Union,  de- 
nounced tlie  war  as  imperialistic,  attacked  President  Roosevelt  and  endorsed  the 
American  Peace  Mobilization  which  was  then  picketing  the  White  House,  and 
denouncing  President  Itoosevelt  as  a  war  monger. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling,  without  objection,  we  will  suspend 
-with  further  reading  of  this  report  and  place  it  in  the  record  at  this 
point. 

Mr.  Stritltng.  All  right.  • 


COMMUNISM    IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  491 

(The  bahuR'o  of  the  statement  is  as  follows:) 

6.  According  to  the  People's  World,  October  22,  1942,  page  2,  and  October  31, 
1942,  page  8,  Lester  Cole  was  active  in  the  Hollywood  Writers'  Mobilization,  the 
snccossor  of  the  Hollywood  branch  of  the  Loague  of  American  Writers. 

7.  One  of  tlie  (»rganixations  particii»ating  in  the  Hollywood  Writers  Mobiliza- 
tion is  tho  Scr^-en  Writers'  (luild,  of  which  Lester  Cole  is  a  member  of  the  ex- 
ecutive board,  according  to  the  Daily  Worker  of  August  10,  1947,  page  11-m  and 
the  Sci-een  Writer  of  July  1!)47,.  page  28.  John  Howard  Lawson,  who  was  identi- 
fied by  tile  Daily  Worker,  officijil  organ  of  the  ('ommunist  I'arty  (issue  of  August 
28,  1987,  page  7),  as  a  Communist  Party  memlier,  is  a  leading  figure  in  the  Screen 
Writers'  Guild. 

The  Ch.mkm.vx.  Now,  the  Cliair  would  like  to  advise  that  by  iinaiii- 
nious  vote  this  siibcoinniittee  recommends  to  the  full  committee  that 
Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  and  Lester  Cole  be  cited  for  contempt  of  Congress 
and  that  aj)i)ropriate  action  be  taken  immediately. 

Xext  witness. 

Mr.  Stkii'Ltng.  Mr.  Berthohl  Brecht. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Brecht.  will  you  stand,  please,  and  raise  your 
riji^ht  hand  t 

i)o  yon  solennily  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  is  the 
truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Brecht.  1  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down,  please. 

TESTIMONY  OF  BERTHOLD  BRECHT  (ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
MR.  KENNY  AND  MR.  CRUM) 

Mr.  STHirLix(i.  Mr.  Brecht.  will  you  })lease  state  your  full  name  and 
present  address  for  the  record,  please?     Speak  into  the  microphone. 

Mr.  Bhecht.  iNIy  name  is  Berthohl  Brecht.  I  am  living  at  34  West 
Seventy-third  Street.  New  York.  I  was  born  in  Augsburg,  Germany, 
February  10,  1898. 

Mr.  STRirLixG.  Mr.  Brecht.  the  committee  has  a 

The  Chairman.  What  was  that  date  again? 

Mr.  Stripling.  AVould  vou  give  the  date  again  ? 

The  Chairman.  Tenth'of  Februarv  1898. 

Mr.  McDowEix.  1898? 

Mr.  Brecht.  1898. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  conmiittee  has  here  an  inter- 
preter, if  you  desire  the  use  of  an  interpreter. 

Mr.  Crcm.  Would  you  like  an  interpreter? 

The  Chairman.  Do  you  desire  an  interpreter? 

Mr.  P>recht.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  lnteri)reter.  will  you  stand  and  raise  your 
right  hand,  j^lease^ 

Mr.  Interi)reter.  do  you  s()lend\  swear  you  will  diligently  and  cor- 
rectly transhite  from  English  into  German  all  (juestions  which  may 
be  proi)ounded  to  this  witness  and  as  diligently  and  correctly  trans- 
late from  (irerman  into  English  all  answei-s  made  by  him,  so  help  vou 
Ood? 

Mr.  Bacmcjardt.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  Sit  down. 

(Mr.  David  Baumgardt  was  .seated  beside  the  witness  as  intei-- 
])reter. ) 


492  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Strii'I^ini;.  Would  you  identify  yourself  for  the  record,  please, 
sir? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  David  Baumgardt. 

Mr.  Stripltng.  Where  are  you  eniplo3'ed,  Mr.  Baumgardt? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  In  the  Libiary  of  Congress. 

Mr.  Bkkciit.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  1  read  a  statement  in  English? 

The  Chaii;max.  Yes;  but  has  the  chief  investigator  (•omi)leted  his 
investigation  of  both  the  interpreter  and  the  witness  ? 

Mr.  Striplix(j.  No,  sir;  I  have  not. 

Now,  would  you  speak  into  the  microphone,  Mr.  Bauuigardt  ? 

Are  you  employed  in  the  Congressional  Library  ? 

Mr.  Baum(jakdt.  I  am  employed  in  the  Congressional  Library,  yes. 

Mr.  Strii'ling.  AVhat  is  your  position  in  the  Congressional 
Library  ? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  Consultant  of  philosophy  of  the  Library  of  Con- 
gress. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  Mr.  Brecht,  will  you  state  to  the  ccnnmittee 
whether  or  not  you  are  a  citizen  of  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  am  not  a  citizen  of  the  United  States;  I  have  only 
my  first  ])apers. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  did  you  acquire  your  first  papers? 

Mr.  Brecht.  In  1041  when  I  came  to  the  coiintry. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  did  yon  arrive  in  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Brecht.  May  I  find  out  exactly?  I  arrived  Jvdy  21  at  San 
Pedro. 

Mr.  Stripling.  July  21,  1941  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Strpling.  At  San  Pedro.  Calif.? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  were  born  in  Augsburg,  Bavaria,  (iernmny.  on 
February  10.  18S8;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Striplinc;.  I  am  reading  from  the  immigration  records 

Mr.  Crum.  I  think,  Mr.  Stripling,  it  was  1898. 

Mr.  Brecht.  1898. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  beg  your  i)ardon.    • 

Mr.  Cri':m.   I  think  the  witness  tried  to  say  1898. 

Mr.  Stripi>in(;.  I  want  to  know  whether  the  innnigration  records 
are  correct  on  that.     Is  it  '88  or  '98? 

Mr.  Bre(tit.  '98. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Were  you  issued  a  quota  immigration  visa  by  the 
American  vice  consul  on  May  8,  1941,  at  Helsinki,  Finland? 

Mr.  Brecht.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  you  entered  this  country  on  that  visa? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Where  had  3^ou  resided  prior  to  going  to  Helsinki, 
Finland? 

Mr.  Brecht.  May  I  read  my  statement?     In  that  statement 

The  Chairman.  First,  Mr.  Brecht,  we  are  trying  to  identify  you. 
The  identification  won't  be  very  long. 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  had  to  leave  Germany  in  1933,  in  February,  when 
Hitler  took  power.  Then  I  went  to  Denmark  but  when  war  seemed 
imminent  in  '39  I  had  to  leave  for  Sweden,  Stockholm.     I  remained 


COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTUKE   INDUSTRY  493 

there  tor  1  year  aiul  then  Hitler  invaded  Norway  and  Denmark  and 
I  had  to  leave  Sweden  and  I  went  to  Finland,  there  to  wait  for  my 
visa  for  tlie  United  States. 

Mr.  Sthii'Ling.  Now,  Mr.  Brecht,  what  is  your  (K'cn[)ation? 

Mr.  Uhixh  r.  I  am  a  playwright  and  a  poet. 

Mr.  Sthii'lino.  A  playwi-ight  and  a  poet? 

Mr.  Bkkc'ht.  Yes. 

Mr.  STKiri.iNo.  Where  are  you  presently  emi)loyed? 

Mr.  BinxnrT.  I  am  not  employed. 

Mr.  Stkii'ijxo.  AVere  you  ever  em[)l()yed  in  the  motion-picture 
industry? 

Mr.  Bkeciit.  Yes;  I — yes.  I  sold  a  story  to  a  Hollywood  firm, 
Han<2;man  Also  Die,  but  I  did  not  write  the  screen  play  myself.  I  am 
not  a  professional  screen-play  writer.  I  wrote  another  story  for  a 
Hollywood  firm  but  that  story  was  not  produced. 

Mr.  Stripijno.  Hangmen  Also  Die — whom  did  you  sell  to,  what 
studio? 

Mr.  Brfx'ut.  That  was  to.  I  think,  an  independent  firm,  Pressburger 
at  United  Artists. 

Mr.  Stripling.  United  Ai'tists? 

Mr.  Brfx'ht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  When  did  you  sell  the  ])lay  to  United  Artists? 

Mr.  Brfxtit.  The  story — I  don't  remember  exactly,  maybe  around 
'4-5  or  '44 ;  1  don't  remember,  quite. 

Mr.  Striplinc;.  And  what  other  studios  have  you  sold  material  to^ 

Mr.  Breciit.  No  other  studio.  Besides  the  last  story  I  spoke  of  ] 
wrote  for  Enterprise  Studios. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiiir  with  Hanns  Eisler?  Do  you 
know  Johannes  Eisler? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  How  long  have  you  known  Johannes  Eisler? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  think  since  the  middle  of  the  twenties,  20  years 
or  so. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Have  you  collaboiated  with  him  on  a  number  of 
Avorks  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht.  are  you  a  member  of  the  Conmiunist 
Party  or  have  you  ever  lieen  a  member  of  the  (\)mmunist  Party? 

Mr.  Brecht.  ]May  I  read  my  statement?  I  will  answer  this  ques- 
tion but  may  I  read  my  statement? 

Mr.  STRn>LiN(;.  Would  you  submit  your  statement  to  the  chairman? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  All  right,  let's  see  the  statement. 

( Mr.  Brecht  hands  the  statement  to  the  chairman.) 

The  (^hairman.  Mr.  Brecht.  the  committee  has  carefully  gone  over 
the  statement.  It  is  a  vei-y  interesting  story  of  (irerman  life  but  it 
is  not  at  all  ])ertinent  to  this  inquiry.  Therefore,  we  do  not  care  to 
have  you  read  the  statement. 

Mr.  Stripling. 

Mr.  Stripi-ing.  Mi-.  Brecht.  before  we  go  on  with  the  questions.  I 
would  like  to  ])Ut  into  the  record  the  subi:)ena  which  was  served  upon 


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494  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION'    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

you  on  September  1!),  calling  for  your  ap[)earance  bel'ttre  the  foinniit- 
tee.     You  are  here  in  response  to  a  sub})ena.  are  you  not  <'  •" 
Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Striplixo.  Noav.  I  will  rejjeat  the  original  questi(^n.  Are  you 
now  or  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Connnunist  Party  of  any 
country  ? 

Mr.  Brix^ht.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  heard  my  colleaiiues  when  they 
considered  this  question  not  as  ])roper.  but  I  am  a  guest  in  this  country 
and  do  not  want  to  enter  into  any  legal  arguments,  so  I  will  answer 
your  question  fully  as  well  I  can. 

I  was  not  a  member  or  am  not  a  member  of  any  Communist  Party. 
The  Chairman.  Your  answer  is.  then,  that  you  h-.ive  never  been  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  ^ 
Mr.  Brecht.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  were  not  a  member  of  the  Connnunist  Party  in 
Germany  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No;  I  was  not. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  is  it  true  that  you  have  written  a  num- 
ber of  very  revolutionary  poems,  plays,  and  other  writings? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  have  written  a  number  of  poems  and  songs  and  plays 
in  the  fight  against  Hitler  and,  of  course,  they  can  be  considered, 
therefore,  as  revolutionary  because  I,  of  course,  was  for  the  overthrow 
of  that  government. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Stripling,  we  are  not  interested  in  any  works 
that  he  might  have  written  advocating  the  overthrow  of  Germany 
or  the  government  there. 
Mr.  Stripling.  Yes;  I  understand. 

Well,  from  an  examination  of  the  works  which  Mr.  Brecht  has 
written,  particularly  in  collaboration  with  Mr.  Hanns  Eisler,  he  seems 
to  be  a  person  of  international  im})ortance  to  the  Comnnniist  revolu- 
tionary movement. 

Now,  Mr.  Brecht,  is  it  true  or  do  you  know  whether  or  not  you  have 
written  articles  which  have  appeared  in  publications  in  the  Soviet 
zone  of  Germany  within  the  ])ast  few  months? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No  ;  I  do  not  remember  to  have  written  such  articles.  I 
have  not  seen  any  of  them  printed.  I  have  not  written  any  such  articles 
just  now.     I  write  very  few  articles,  if  any. 

Mr.  StripliN(;.  I  have  here,  Mr.  Chairman,  a  document  which  I  will 
hand  to  the  translator  and  ask  him  to  identify  it  for  the  connnittee  and 
to  refer  to  an  article  which  refers  on  page  72. 
Mr.  Brecht.  May  I  speak  to  that  publication? 
Mr.  Stripling.  I  beg  your  pardon  ? 
Mr.  Brecht.  May  I  explain  this  publication  ? 
Mr.  Stripling.  Yes.     Will  you  identify  the  publication? 
Mr.  Brecht.  Oh,  yes.     That  is  not  an  article,  that  is  a  scene  out  of 
a  i)lay  I  wrote  in,  t  think,  1937  or  11)38  in  Denmark.     The  play  is 
called  Private  Life  of  the  Master  Race,  and  this  scene  is  one  of  the 
scenes  out  of  this  i)lay  about  a  Jewish  w(mian  in  Berlin  in  the  year  of 
'36  or  '37.     It  was.  I  see,  printed  in  this  magazine  Ost  und  West,  Julv 
194G.*' 


'■'  See  apixMidix,  p.  549,  for  PxliiMt  9.".. 
""  Sfp  appendix,  p.  r^rtO,  for  exhibit  04. 


COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  495 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Translator,  would  you  translate  the  frontispiece 
of  the  magazine,  please? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  "East  and  West,  Contributions  to  Cultural  and 
Political  Questions  of  the  Time,  edited  by  Alfred  Kantorowicz,  Berlin, 
July  1947,  first  year  of  publication  enterprise." 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  do  you  know  the  gentleman  who  is  the 
•editor  of  the  publication  whose  name  was  just  read? 

Mr.  Brkciit.  Yes;  I  know  him  from  Berlin  and  I  met  him  in  New 
York  again. 

Mr.  STRii'LiN(i.  Do  you  know  him  to  be  a  member  of  the  Communist 
l*arty  of  Germany  ? 

Mr.  Breciit.  AVhen  I  met  him  in  Germany  I  think  he  was  a  journalist 
on  the  Ullstein  Press.  That  is  not  a  Communist — was  not  a  Com- 
munist— there  were  no  Communist  Party  papers  so  I  do  not  know 
^^xactly  whether  he  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  of  Germany. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  don't  know  whether  he  was  a  member  of  the 
'Communist  Party  or  not? 

Mr.  Brkciit.  I  don't  know,  no ;  I  don't  know. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  1930  did  you,  with  Hanns  Eisler,  write  a  play 
entitled,  "'Die  Massnahme"? 

Mr.  Brkciit.  Die  Massnahme. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  you  write  such  a  play  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes ;  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Would  you  explain  to  the  committee  the  theme  of 
that  play — what  it  dealt  with? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes ;  I  will  try  to. 

Mr.  Stripling.  First,  explain  what  the  title  means. 

Mr.  Brkciit.  Die  Massnahme  means  [speaking  in  German]. 

Mr.  BAr:M(iARnT.  Measures  to  be  taken,  or  steps  to  be  taken — meas- 
ures. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  it  mean  disciplinary  measures? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  No;  not  disciplinary  measures;  no.  It  means 
measures  to  be  taken. 

Mr.  McDowell.  Speak  into  the  microphone. 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  It  means  only  measures  or  steps  to  be  taken. 

Mr.  Stripling.  All  right. 

You  tell  the  conmiittee  now,  Mr.  Brecht 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling  (continuing).  What  this  play  dealt  with. 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes.  This  play  is  the  adaptation  of  an  old  religious 
Japanese  play  and  is  called  No  Play,  and  follows  quite  closely  this  old 
story  which  shows  the  devotion  for  an  ideal  until  death. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  was  that  ideal,  Mr.  Brecht? 

Mr.  Brecht.  The  idea  in  the  old  play  was  a  religious  idea.  This 
young  peoi)le 

Mr.  Stripling.  Didn't  it  have  to  do  with  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  And  discii)line  within  the  Communist  Party?  j 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes,  yes;  it  is  a  ncAv  play,  an  adaptation.  It  had  as  a  j 
'background  the  Russia-China  of  the  years  1918  or  1919,  or  so.  There  i 
some  Communist  agitators  went  to  a  sort  of  no  man's  land  between  j 
the  Russia  which  then  was  not  a  state  and  had  no  real 


496  COMMUNISM  IN  MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  may  I  interrupt  you  ?  Would  you  con- 
hider  the  play  to  be  pro-Coiiiniuiiist  or  anti-Commuuist,  or  would  it 
take  a  neutral  position  reT,  published  by  the  State  Literary  Art  Publishing  House  in  Moscow 
had  an  article  by  Sergi  Tretyakov,  leading  Soviet  writer,  on  an  inter- 
view he  had  with  Mr.  Brecht.''^     On  page  60,  it  states : 
He  is  quoting  Mr.  Brecht — 

"I  was  a  member  of  the  Angsburjj  Revolutionary  Committee,''  Breebt  con- 
tinued. "Nearby,  in  Munich.  Levine  raised  the  banner  of  Soviet  power.  Aug.s- 
liurg  lived  in  the  reflected  glow  of  Munich.  The  hospital  was  the  only  military 
unit  in  the  town.  It  elected  me  to  the  revolutionary  committee.  I  still  re- 
member Georg  Brem  and  the  Polish  Bolshevik  Olshevsky.  We  did  not  boast 
a  single  Red  guardsman.  We  didn't  have  time  to  issue  a  single  decree  or 
jiatiitnalize  a  single  bank  or  close  a  church.  In  2  days  General  Epp's  troops 
tame  to  town  on  their  way  to  .Munich.  One  of  the  members  of  the  revolu- 
tionary committee  hid  at  my  house  until  he  managed  to  escape." 

He  wrote  Drum  at  Night.  This  work  contained  echoes  of  the  revolution. 
The  drums  of  revolt  persistently  sunnnon  the  man  who  has  gone  home.  But 
the  man  prefers  (juiet  i>eace  of  his  hearthside. 

The  work  was  a  scathing  satire  on  those  who  had  deserted  the  revolution 
and    toasted    tliemselves    at    their    fireplaces.     One    should    recall    that    K-ipp 


^  See  appendix,  p.  .")50,  for  exhibit  9.' 


498  COMMUNISM   IN   MOTION    PICTUHE   INDUSTRY 

launched  his  drive  on  Cliiistmas  Eve.  cak-uhitiujj  that  many  Ivcd  ^iuaidsnu'ii! 
would  have  left  their  detachments  for  the  family  Chi'istmas  trees. 

His  play.  Die  .Massnahme,  the  first  of  Bretcht's  plays  on  a  Connnunist  theme, 
is  arranged  like  a  court  where  the  characters  try  to  Justify  tiiemselvcs  for 
having  killed  a  comrade,  and  judges,  who  at  the  same  time  represent  the  audi- 
ence, sununarize  the  events  and  I'each  a  verdict. 

When  he  visited  in  Moscow  in  1932,  P>recht  told  nic  his  plan  to  organize  a 
theater  in  Berlin  which  would  reenact  the  most  intei'e.sting  court  trials  in  the 
history  of  mankind. 

Breeht  conceived  the  idea  of  writing  a  play  idxmt  the  terrorist  tricks  resorted 
to  by  the  landowners  in  oi-der  to  peg  the  price  of  grain.  But  this  recjuires  a 
knowledge  of  economics.  The  study  of  economics  Itrought  Breeht  to  Marx  iind 
Lenin,  whose  works  became  an  invaluable  part  of  his  library. 

P.recht  studies  and  quotes  Lenin  as  a  great  thinker  and  as  a  gi*eat  master 
of  prose. 

The  traditional  drama  portrays  the  struggle  of  class  instincts.  Breeht  de- 
mands that  the  struggle  of  class  instincts  be  replaced  by  the  struggle  of  social 
consciousness,  of  social  convictions.  He  maintains  that  tlie  situation  must  not 
only  be  felt,  but  explained — crystallized  into  the  idea  which  will  overturn  the 
world. 

Do  you  recall  that  interview,  Mr.  Breeht  ( 

Mr.  Brecht.  No.  [Laughter.]  It  must  have  been  wiiften  20 
years  ago  or  so. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  show  you  the  magazine,  Mr.  Brecht. 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes.     I  do  not  recall  there  was  an  interview.     |  Book 
handed  to  the  witness.]     I  do  not  recall — Mr.  Stripling.  I  do  not  recall 
the  interview  in  exact.     I  think  it  is  a  more  or  less  joiii'tiaiistic  suin^ 
mary  of  talks  or  discussions  about  many  things. 

Mr.  Striplin(j.  Yes.  Have  many  of  your  writings  been  based  upon 
the  philosophy  of  Lenin  and  Marx? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No;  I  don't  think  that  is  quite  correct  l)ut.  of  course. 
I  studied,  had  to  stiuh^  as  a  playwright  who  wrote  historical  plays. 
I,  of  course,  had  to  study  Marx's  ideas  about  history.  I  do  not  think 
intelligent  j^lays  today  can  be  written  without  such  study.  Also,  his- 
tory now  Avritten  now  is  vitally  influenced  by  the  .stiulies  of  Marx 
about  history. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  since  you  have  been  in  the  Uiiiteif 
States,  have  you  attended  any  Communist  Party  meetings? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No  ;  I  don't  think  so. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  don't  think  so? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  aren't  you  certain  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No — I  am  certain;  yes. 

The  Chairman.  You  are  certain  you  have  never  been  to  Connnunist 
Party  meetings? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  I  think  so.  I  am  here  6  years — I  am  here  those — • 
1  do  not  think  so.    I  do  not  think  that  I  attended  i)olitical  meetings. 

The  Chairman.  No  :  neA^er  mind  the  political  meetings,  but  have  you 
attended  any  Communist  meetings  in  the  United  States? 

Mr,  Brecht.  I  do  not  think  so ;  no. 

The  Chairman.  You  are  certain? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  think  I  am  certain. 

The  Chairman.  You  think  you  are  certain  ? 

Mr.  Bkecht.  Yes;  I  have  not  attended  sucli  meetings,  in  my  opinion. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  have  you  since  you  have  been  in  the 
United  States,  have  you  met  with  any  officials  of  the  Soviet  Govern- 
ment ? 


COMMUNISM    IN    MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY  499 

Mr.  Bkecht.  Yes,  yes.  In  Hollywood  1  was  invited,  sometimes 
three  or  foui-  times,  to  the  Soviet  consulate  with,  of  course,  many  other 
Avr  iters. 

Mr.  Si'iui'ijxci.  AA'hat  otliers? 

Mr.  Bkeciit.  AVith  otlier  writers  and  artists  and  actors  who  the}" 
gave  some  receptions  at  special  Soviet  [speaking  in  German] 

Mr.  BAUMO.MtDT.  Festivities. 

Mr.  Bkecht.  Festivities. 

Mr.  STKirLiNG.  Did  any  of  the  officials  of  the  Soviet  Government 
ever  come  and  visit  you  '. 

Mr.  Bkecht.  I  don'  think  so. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Didn't  Gregory  Kheifets  visit  you  on  April  14, 1943, 
vice  consul  of  the  Soviet  Government  ?  Yon  know  Gregory  Kheifets, 
don't  you  % 

Mr.  Bkecht.  (Gregory  Kheifets? 

The  CiiAiHMAX.  Watch  out  on  this  one. 

Mr.  Bkecht.  I  don't  remember  tliat  name,  but  I  might  know  him; 
yes.     1  don't  remember 

Mr.  Striplixo.  Did  he  come  and  visit  you  on  April  14,  1913? 

Mr.  Bkecht.  It  is  (juite  possible. 

Mr.  Stkiplino.  And  again  on  A])ril  27,  and  again  on  June  16, 
1944^ 

Mr.  Bkecht.  That  is  cjuite  ])ossible,  yes;  that  somebody — I  don't 
know.  I  don't  remember  the  name,  but  that  somebody,  some  of  the 
cultural  attaches 

Mr.  Stkiplix(;.  Cultuial  attaches. 

Mr.  Bkecht.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  Spell  the  name. 

Mr.  Stkiplix(;.  (iregory,  (j-r-e-g-o-r-y  Kheifets,  K-h-e-i-f-e-t-s. 
I  will  s})ell  the  last  name  again,  K-h-e-i-f-e-t-s. 

Mr.  Bkecht.  Kheifets? 

Ml'.  Striplixo.  Yes.     Do  you  remember  Mr.  Kheifets? 

Mr.  Bkecht.  I  don't  remember  the  name,  but  it  is  quite  possible. 
But  I  remember  that  from  the — I  think  from  the — yes,  from  the  con- 
sulate, from  the  Russia^  consulate  some  people  visited  me,  but  not 
only  this  man,  but  also  I  think  the  consul  once,  but  I  don't  remember 
his  name  either. 

Mr.  SrKiPEiX(;.  What  was  the  nature  of  his  business? 

Mr.  Brecht.  He — it  must  have  been  about  my  literary  connections 
with  German  writers.     Some  of  them  are  friends  of  mine. 

Mr.  Striplixt;.  (xerman  writers^ 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes:  in  Moscow. 

Mr.  Striplin(;.  In  jMoscow? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes.  And  there  appeared  in  the  Staats  Verlag  the 
Sergei  Tretyakov  translations  of  my  jilays,  for  instance,  this  Private 
Life  of  the  blaster  Race.  A  Penny  foi'  the  Poor,  and  poems,  and  so  on. 

Mr.  Stkipmxc;.  Did  Gerhart  Eisler  ever  visit  you,  not  Hanns,  but 
Gerhart  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes:  I  met  Gerhart  Eisler,  too.  He  is  a  brother  of 
Hanns  and  he  visited  me  with  Hanns  and  then  three  or  four  times 
without  Hanns. 

Mr.  Strh'lixo.  Could  you  tell  us  iu  what  year  he  visited  you? 
Wasn't  it  the  same  year  that  Mr.  Kheifets  visited  you? 

Mr.  Brech  r.    I  do  not  know,  but  thei-e  is  no  connection  I  can  see. 


500  COMMUNISM   IX   MOTION    PICTUKE   INUrsiHY 

Mr.  SrinrM.\(;.  Do  you  ivcall  liiin  visiting  y()ii  on  ,Jiimi;ny  IT,  ]'.>44? 

Ml".  Bkix'iit.  No;  I  do  uol  recall  such  (late,  l>ut  he  uiijjfht  have 
visited  nie  on  such  date. 

Mr.  Stkiplixc;.  Where  did  he  visit  you  '. 

Mr.  Bkkciit.  He  used  to  ask  for  his  hrother  who,  as  I  told  you,  is  an 
old  friend  of  mine,  and  we  phiyed  some  <2;ames  of  chess,  too,  and  we 
spoke  about  politics. 

Mr.  Si'RiPLixG.  About  politics? 

Mr.  Brecjit.  Yes. 

The  Chairman.  What  was  the  last  auswei'!'  I  didn't  <:et  the  last 
answer? 

Mr.  Stripling.  They  spoke  about  politics. 

In  any  of  your  conversations  with  Gerhart  Eisler,  did  you  discuss 
the  German  Communist  movement? 

Mr.  Brectit.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  In  Germany  % 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  we  spoke  about,  of  course,  German  politics.  He 
is  a  specialist  in  that,  he  is  a  politician. 

Mr.  Stripling.  He  is  a  politician? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  he,  of  course,  knew  very  nuich  more  than  I  knew 
about  the  situation  in  Germany. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Brecht,  can  you  tell  the  committee  when  you 
entered  this  country,  did  you  make  a  statement  to  the  Immi<^ration 
Service  concernino-  your  past  affiliations? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  don't  remember  to  have  made  such  a  statement,  but 
I  think  I  made  the  usual  statements  that  I  did  not  want  to  or  diet  not 
intend  to  overthrow  the  American  Government.  I  might  have  been 
asked  whether  I  belonged  to  the  Communist  Party,  I  don't  remember 
to  have  been  asked,  but  I  would  have  answered  what  I  have  told  you, 
that  I  W' as  not.    That  is  what  I  remember. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Did  they  ask  you  whether  or  not  you  had  ever  been 
a  member  of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  they  ask  you  whether  or  not  you  had  ever  been 
to  the  Soviet? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  think  they  asked  me,  yes ;  and  I  told  them. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  they  question  you  about  3'our  writings? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No;  not  as  I  remember,  no;  they  did  not.  I  don't 
remember  any  discussion  about  literature. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now%  you  stated  you  sold  the  book,  the  story,  Hang- 
men Also  Die,  to  United  Artists ;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  to  an  independent  firm;  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  Hanns  Eisler  do  the  backgrouiul  nuisic  for 
Hangmen  Also  Die? 

Mr.  Brecht,  Yes;  he  did. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  recall  who  stan-ed  in  that  picture  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No  ;  I  do  not. 

Mr,  Stripling.  You  don't  even  remember  who  played  the  leading 
role  in  the  picture? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  think  Brian  Donlevy  played  it, 

Mr,  Stripling,  Do  you  reuiember  any  of  the  other  actors  or 
actresses  who  were  in  it? 


COMMUNISM  IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  501 

Mr.  Bkecut.  No  ;  I  do  not.  You  see,  I  had  not  veiT  much  to  do  with 
the  filniization  itself.  I  AAi'ote  the  story  and  then  to  the  script  writers 
some  advice  about  tlie  back<2:round  of  Nazis,  nazism  in  Czechoslovakia, 
so  I  had  nothinj^  to  do  with  the  actors. 

The  Chairman.  ISIr.  Stripling,  can  we  hurry  this  along?  We  have 
a  very  heavy  schedule  this  afternoon. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Yes* 

Now,  Mr.  Bi'echt,  since  you  have  been  in  the  United  States  have  you 
contributed  articles  to  any  Communist  publications  in  the  United 
States  ? 

Mr.  Breoht.  I  don't  think  so;  no. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Are  you  familiar  with  the  magaziiie  New  Masses? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No. 

Mr.  Stripling.  You  never  heard  of  it  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  of  course. 

Mr.  Stmpling.  Did  you  ever  contribute  anything  to  it? 

Mr.  Brecht.  No. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  they  ever  publish  any  of  your  work  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  That  I  do  not  know.  They  might  have  published  some- 
translation  of  a  jioem,  but  I  had  no  direct  connection  with  it,  nor  did 
I  send  them  anything. 

Mr.  SiTiiPLiNG.  Did  you  collaborate  with  Hanns  Eisler  on  the  song' 
In  Praise  of  Learning? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes;  I  collaborated.  I  wrote  that  song  and  he  only 
wrote  the  music. 

Mr.  SiTiiPLTNG.  You  wrote  the  song? 

Mr.  Brecht.  I  wrote  the  song. 

Mr.  Sti^ipling.  Would  you  recite  to  the  committee  the  words  of 
that  song? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes ;  I  would.  May  I  point  out  that  song  comes  from 
another  adaj)tation  I  made  of  Gorky's  play.  Mother.  In  this  song  a 
Russian  worker  woman  addresses  all  the  poor  people. 

Mr.  Stripling.  It  was  produced  in  this  country,  wasn't  it  ? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Yes,  35,  New  York. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Now,  I  will  read  the  words  and  ask  you  if  this 
is  the  one. 

Mr.  Brecht.  Please. 

Mr.  Stripling,   (reading)  : 

Learn  now  the  simple  truth,  you  for  whom  the  time  has  come  at  hist ;  it  is  not 
too  late. 

Learn  now  the  ABC.    It  is  not  enough  but  learn  it  still. 

Fear  not,  be  nf)t  downhearted.  Again  you  must  learn  the  lesson,  you  must  be 
ready  to  take  over — 

Mr.  Brecht.  No,  excuse  me.  that  is  the  wrong  translation.  That  is 
not  right.  [Laughter.]  Just  one  second,  and  I  will  give  you  the  cor- 
rect text. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  not  a  correct  translation? 

Mr.  Brecht.  That  is  not  correct,  no;  that  is  not  the  meaning.  It  is 
not  very  beautiful,  but  I  am  not  speaking  about  that. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  does  it  mean?  I  have  here  a  portion  of  The 
People,  which  was  issued  by  the  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States, 
published  by  the  Workers'  Library  Publishei-s.     Page  24  says : 

In  praise  of  learning,  by  Bert  Brecht ;  music  by  Hanns  Eisler. 


502  COMMUNISM    IN   MOTION    PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

It  says  here : 

You  must  be  ready  to  take  over;  learn  it. 

Men  on  the  {U)le,  learn  it;  men  in  the  prisons,  learn  it;  women  in  tin-  kitchen, 
learn  it ;  men  of  Gf),  learn  it.    You  nnist  be  ready  to  take  over — 

and  "Toos  right  on  throu^jh.    That  is  the  core  of  it  — 

You  nnist  be  ready  to  take  over. 

Mr.  Brecht.  Mr.  Stripling,  maybe  his  transhition- 


Mr.  Baumgardt.  The  correct  translation  -vvouhl  be.  "Yon  mnst  take 
the  lead." 

The  Chairman.  ''Yon  mnst  take  the  lead"'? 

Mr.  Baumgardt.  ''The  lead."  It  definitely  says,  '"The  lead."  It  is 
not  ''You  mnst  take  over."  The  translation  is  not  a  literal  translation 
of  the  German. 

Mr.  Striplin(;.  Well.  Mr.  Brecht.  as  it  has  been  published  in  these 
publications  of  the  Communist  Party,  then,  if  that  is  incorrect,  what 
did  you  mean  ? 

Mr.  BRECirr.  I  don't  remember  never — I  never  got  that  book  myself. 
I  must  not  have  been  in  the  country  when  it  was  published.  I  think 
it  was  published  as  a  song,  one  of  the  songs  Eisler  had  written  the 
music  to.  I  did  not  give  any  permission  to  publish  it.  I  don't  see — 
I  think  I  have  never  saw  the  translation. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  tlie  words  there  before  yon  ( 

Mr.  Brecht.  In  German,  yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Of  the  song? 

Mr.  Brecht.  Oh,  yes;  in  the  book. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Xot  in  the  original. 

Mr,  Brecht.  In  the  German  book. 

Mr,  Stripling,  It  goes  on  : 

You  nuist  be  ready  to  take  over ;  you  must  he  ready  to  take  over.  Don't 
hesitate  to  ask  questions,  stay  in  there.  Don't  hesitlale  to  ask  questions, 
- 
audiences  in  many  towns  and  cities. 

Frontier  Films:  Its  Heart  of  Spain  ;ind  China   Strikes  hack. 

Associated  Film  Audiences  stopped  the  showing  of  Siege  of  Alcazar. 

Choruses,  nuisicians,  d;mcers,  entertainment  unions.  WPA  projects:  camiiaigu 
for  the  enactment  of  Federal  art  hill  is  now  in  full  swing  and  shouli!  h.Mvr  the- 
full  support  of  the  party. 

Puhlications  :  New  .Ahisses,  Daily  Worl^er.  colninu  of  .Mike  (Jold. 

PROBLEMS 

How  can  we  coordinate  cultural  activities  witli  the  movement  as  a  whole. 
We  need  a  far  more  positive  approach  to  cultural  work  :  to  realize  the  opjiortuni- 
ties  of  cultiu'al  movements  that  mass  agitation  otTer  to  our  pai-ty.  This  ap- 
proach of  necessity  will  lead  to  the  solution  of  the  second  problem,  th;it  of  de- 
veloping cultural  persoiuiel  in  our  part.v. 

We  liave  made  advances;  yet  in  regard  to  the  opportunities  and  in  general 
needs  we  have  scarcely  made  a  turn.  AVe  have  still  in  our  party  a  certain 
evil  remaining  from  the  past — tlie  evil  of  pulling  up  stal^es.  We  should  recog- 
nize that  there  is  still  a  tendency  in  the  committees,  units,  etc.,  to  divert  the 
comrades  doing  cultural  work  to  assign  them  to  new  work.  It  is  an  indication 
of  development  when  a  comrade  shows  himself  tit  to  be  transferred  to  varied 
activities.  We  should  not  discourage  such  transfers.  But  we  sliould  bear  in 
mind — concern  must  always  he  given  to  condition  of  the  work  that  tlie  comrade 
has  heen  doing  so  there  will  not  he  pulling  up  of  stakes,  which  we  have  got  rid 
of  successfidly  in  many  tields  of  our  endeavor. 

In  dealing  further  with  the  question  of  coordinating  the  work,  we  can  only 
speak  experimentally.  We  have  done  so  little  because  actually  we  are  groping 
for  particulars,  methods  in  building  UTp  coordinating  activity. 

We  liave  liad  in  certain  districts,  and  in  certain  sections,  certain  enterprising 
districts  ami  swtions,  cultural  committees  that  have  undertaken  to  do  work  set 
up  by  districts  and  committees.  In  the  course  of  recent  months  we  have  made  a 
survey  of  certain  of  these  committees.  We  found  in  many  instances  that  these 
committees,  while  doing  certain  valuable  worlv,  did  not  always  yield  the  fruits 
that  the  planters  had  looked  for;  and  in  examining  causes  we  foiuid  that  com- 
mittees were  left  to  drift  for  themselves.  They  were  invested  with  too  much 
autonomy.  Expei'ience  would  show  us  that  where  .such  cultural  committees 
are  established  by  sections  it  is  best  to  regard  them  as  subcommittees,  let  us 
say,  of  the  education  and  organization  committees,  or  if  a  separate  counnittee, 
apart  from  the  eeralism,  or  to  round  out  the  word,  rotten  liberalism,  su'h  traits  as  aca- 
demicism, viewing  a  topic,  an  issue,  almost  witli  a  Hamletic  waver,  between 
yea  and  na.v.  What  has  this  in  common  with  the  Communist  theory  and  prac- 
tice? But  we  find  it  still  in  oui'  midst — i»ure  and  simple  professionalism.  It 
it  merely  a  cari'y-over  of  an  organized  notion  of  our  function  in  which  one 
has  not  yet  learned  to  make  the  synthesis  between  his  political  program  and 
his  pi-ofessional   conti-ibution   to   the  carrying  out   of  that   progi-am. 

And,  of  course,  hyjiei-individualism.  that  direct  cur.se  of  them  all — all  of  which 
constitutes  susceptibilities  to  Trotskyism  and  other  alien  classes. 

Certain  examples  which  will  illusti-ate  at  the  present  moment  the  danger  of 
jiermitting  such  notions  to  remain  in  oui'  midst.  How  often  do  we  come  across 
certain  individuals  mingling  with  us  who  advance  the  following  idea  about  the 
people's  front  :  for  examiile,  that  Dimitrov's  rejtort  finally  recognized  that  they 
wei'e  right  all  the  time.  In  other  words,  that  Dimitrov's  report  is  a  concession 
to  the  petty  bourgeoisie — the  party  in  the  past  is  now  repudiating  hy  the  seventli 
congn'ss  line,  and  now  that  the  party  has  ]iroved  itself  worthy  they  may  .join  it. 
What  doe.s  this  mean'/  Can  we  allow  such  notions  to  manifest  themselves  politi- 
call.v':'  We  have  written  extensively  in  our  writings  and  jieriodicals — Comrade 
Browder's  people's  front  illustrated  for  us  to  see  that  the  adoption  of  a  new  line 
does  not  constitute  a  repudiation  but.  on  the  contrar.v.  it  constitutes  a  necessary 
historic  transition  to  a  new  tactic  rendered  requisite  hy  a  develoiiing  situation. 
Now.  he  who  is  oj'posed  to  the  adoption  on  the  part  of  the  working-class  party 
of  the  correct  tactic  stands  on  the  side  lines  sneering  that  "They  liave  changed 
their  line."  This  sneering  reflects  itself  in  shadows  of  grimaces  on  the  part  of 
some  of  our  weaker  comrade.s.  We  must  overcome  such  notions  in  our  midst. 
We  welcome  them    Cthe  comrades)   b\it  we  do  not  welcome  their  interest  on  tlie 


508  COMMUNISM  IX    MOTION    PICTUHE    INDUSTRY 

basis  of  tlu'ii-  uiKlcistandinjj  that  that  which  they  arc  joiiiiiii:'  is  imt  a  pai'ty  (»f 
coniiiiunisni.     It  is  our  duty  to  chirify  theso  comrades. 

We  have  a  task  to  perform  ;  we  are  educators  ;  we  are  traiisforuiers  of  conscious- 
ness ;  and  tliat  transformation  of  consciousness  does  not  end  with  the  roj^istration 
of  a  .iriven  candiiiate  to  tlie  party  but  be.iiins  with  tliat  moment,  for  then  we  liave 
the  administrator — the  channel  throu;,di  whicli  to  do  it. 

Anotiier  manifestation  of  this — the  tendency  to  abuse  and  distort  the  criticism 
contained  in  tlie  word  ".sectarianism."  How  often  do  we  not  tind  that  when  a 
certain  liberalism  begins  to  insinuate  it.self  and  when  it  is  criticized  correctly  that 
very  often  we  find  countercharges  that  criticism  is  sectarianism.  Yes ;  we  have — ■ 
we  hope  for  good — thrown  sectarianism  out  the  window.  \Ve  have  established 
ourselves  as  being  on  the  highroad  to  becoming  a  mass  party.  We  hope  before 
very  long  to  count  our  nmnbers  in  terms  of  hundreds  of  thousands.  'I'liat  is  a 
.prospective  with  a  program. 

We  built  qualitatively  as  well  as  quantitatively,  and  we  cannot,  and  should 
not,  permit  the  charge  contained  in  the  word  "sectarianism"  to  cover  the  employ- 
ment of  opportunism,  conscious  or  unconscitms. 

To  illustrate  this  with  an  in.stance:  The  book  Red  Star  Over  China,  which 
has  created  confusion  in  the  party  and  around  the  party.  The  action  of  the 
party  in  adopting  a  critical  attitude  to  the  book,  in  keeping  the  boctk  from 
circulation  in  our  party  bookshops,  has  not  been  completely  understood  by  many 
comrades.  I  think  it  should  be  stated  in  all  due  fairness  to  tho.se  comrades  that 
the  party  did  not  come  out  quickly  enough  with  an  authentic  opinion  on  the 
book;  and,  of  course,  there  were  many  speculations.  It  was  necessary  and  im- 
perative to  have  prompt  reviews  of  the  book,  to  make  the  matter  clear  before 
our  members.  Of  course,  the  party  has  an  attitiide  to  the  book  :  there  were 
reviews  in  several  periodicals.  Here  is  a  book  written  by  a  man  who  undoubtedly 
is  disposed  as  a  friend  and  well-wisher  of  the  Chinese  people.  A  man  who  is, 
you  might  say,  profoundly  sympathetic,  and  attached  to  the  Chinese  Soviets,  and 
who  wrote  a  boi>k  that  is  in  many  pages  inspiring.  I'et  those  who  have  read  the 
book  carefully,  those  wh(»  have  followed  the  review  in  the  Communist,  will  conisa 
to  the  conclusion  that  the  book  brings  forward  Trotskyite  conclusions  that  actually 
damage  an  otherwise  valuable  documentary  accoiuit.  In  fact,  the  philosophy  of 
the  book  is  that  comnnmism  is  adorable  if  it  arises  as  a  Chinese  phenomenon.  A 
.sort  of  new  except ionalism  cut  off  from  international  communism — not  only  cut 
off,  but  Snow's  thesis  seems  to  be  that  wherevei-  the  Comm-unist  International 
enters  as  a  factor  it  brings  about  tragedy  and  ruin  in  the  wake  of  the  Chinese 
revolution.  And  as  for  the  Soviet  Union,  that  is  the  villain  of  the  piece.  Snow 
maintains  that  the  Communist  International  is,  or  is  used  as,  a  sort  of  vest-pocket 
bureau  of  the  Soviet  Foreign  Office.  This  is  purveying  Trotskyism.  W'e  do 
not  say  that  Snow  is  a  Trotskyite.  We  do  not  say  that  Snow  is  a  Trotskyite, 
but  we  do  say  that  by  his  unclarity  and  by  his  failure,  his  professional  failure, 
to  check  on  data,  a  responsibility  wliich  he  owes  to  himself  as  a  foreign  corre- 
spondent, he  has  made  hin^self  a  vehicle  for  carrying  Trotskyite  poi.son  into  his 
book;  and,  therefoi'e,  notwithstanding  the  great  value  of  his  book  in  many  other 
ways,  we  have  to  register  this  deep-going  criticism  in  the  hope  that  thereby  be 
will  i)erhaps  put  forth  a  new  edition  in  which  he  will  make  the  corrections  that 
we  have  indicated. 

I  mention  this  as  an  instance  in  the  party  of  sectarianism.  The  word  is  used 
by  friends  and  comrades.  W^hyV  Because  they  abuse  the  word  "sectarianism." 
In  fact,  it  would  be  extremely  sectarian  to  Trotsky  not  to  have  taken  the  attitude 
that  we  have  taken  to  such  a  word.  There  is  an  antitoxin  to  drive  out  this  re- 
maining poison  in  the  system  of  certain  of  the  people  that  come  toward  us.  This 
antitoxin  is  the  valuable  fiow  of  education — of  study  of  Marxism,  Leninism,  which 
we  owe  as  educators,  as  members  of  the  party,  to  those  who  come  toward  us. 
We  have  to  devi.se  the  necessary  methods  to  help  overcome  this.  Of  course,  we 
don't  mean  in  the  book  learning;  we  mean  practice. 

Far  too  many  of  these  people  somehow  or  other  are  members  at  large,  not 
because  they  have  been  assigned  due  to  their  strategic  posts  that  they  may  occupy 
in  the  camp  of  the  enemy,  in  Wall  Street  or  other  places.  Tliey  have  sort  of 
placed  themselves  at  large. 

I  cite  an  instance  where  a  i-epresentative  of  the  central  committee  set  out  to 
visit  a  certain  group  at  large  to  conduct  an  instructive  talk  on  a  vital  political 
subject  and  he  was  told  that  they  couldn't  reveal  themselves.  In  other  words, 
they  don't  know  us  and  we  don't  know  them.  They  missed  the  study,  the  work, 
the'activity,  the  helpful  guidajice,  and  the  contact  with  the  life  of  the  basic  party 
•organizations. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  509 

There  are  two  ways  for  intellectuals  to  come  into  the  party.  One  is  the  way  of 
perennially  skirting  the  fringe.  The  other  is  the  way  to  come — weave  himself 
right  into  the  cloth  of  the  banner  of  Leninism.  Every  one  of  us  knows  what  the 
results  of  two  such  ways  of  coming  are. 

For  instance,  I  think  that  in  certain  places  and  in  certain  professions  it  is 
advisable  to  have  special  units  of  workers  in  a  given  profession  established  in 
WPA  units,  or  perhaps  units  of  a  given  establisliment.  But,  to  say,  as  we  have 
observed  in  certain  cities  not  fartlier  than  a  stone's  throw  from  here,  tliat  everyone 
who  wields  a  pen  shall  therefore  belong  to  our  writers  unit — and  there  are  such 
demands  I  notice,  in  Chicago,  in  Philadelphia  and  here — I  think  this  means 
isolating  themselves  from  the  party.  It  means  a  life  of  inbreeding,  failure  to  live 
the  life  of  the  party.  There  is  no  blanket  judgment  on  this.  In  every  district 
or  section  the  leadership  exercices  its  due  discretion  to  see  where  in  special 
places  professional  units  can  be  and  should  be  set  up.  They  have  their  place  and 
should  function  where  they  have  their  place;  but  where  they  have  no  reason  for 
being,  there  is  absolutely  nothing  l)ut  loss  in  such  an  arrangement. 

I  was  in  Los  Angeles  last  year  and  came  upon  a  unit  consisting  of  one  or  two 
lawyers,  one  or  two  medicos,  publicity  agents,  a  couple  of  storekeepers  and 
teachers.  I  visited  that  unit,  and  I  was  told  that  this  is  an  industrial  unit. 
That  was  not  the  opinion  of  the  county  leadership.  Actually  it  seemed  that  it  was 
some  sort  of  mushroom  growth ;  and  in  investigating  the  basis  upon  which  they 
had  built  themselves — -they  had  not  a  single  profession,  let  alone  an  industrial 
profession — the  common  denominator  upon  which  they  existed,  I  found,  was  the 
desire  to  keep  from  being  open  party  members.  In  other  words,  the  negative 
policy  of  concealment  was  the  basis  for  joint  work. 

Certainly,  we  have  to  safeguard  professionals.  We  cannot  adopt  the  same 
methods  of  work,  nor  can  we  always  nor  should  we  always  have  the  genei'al  policy 
of  open  work,  dependent  upon  who  the  professionals  are.  P>nt  to  say  that  there 
can  be  such  a  thing  as  a  basis  of  work  which  hasn't  a  positive  program,  but  rather 
a  negative  program  of  withdrawal,  is  the  opposite.  Well,  as  to  that  unit,  tliey 
disbanded,  and  some  of  them  became  attached  to  factory  groups  and  units,  helped 
put  out  factory  papers,  and  began  to  find  themselves  in  the  party,  making  them- 
selves useful.  They  gave  their  equipment  to  basic  party  units,  began  to  register 
their  party  attitude  to  things.  Before  leaving  I  spoke  to  some  of  those  comrades. 
There  was  a  different  light  in  their  eye  in  speaking  of  the  party. 

Promote  the.  party  press  among  our  professionals.  I  don't  like  to  embarrass 
gatherings  of  professionals  by  asking  how  many  have  really  read  the  Daily 
Worker,  and  I  don't  mean  page  7  only.  How  many  read  the  Party  Organizer? 
How  many  read  the  Communist?  Very  few,  comrades.  And  where  will  this 
transformation  come  about?  Where  shall  we  equip  ourselves  for  further  educa- 
tion? *  *  *  It  is  a  very  important  question.  Ask  yourselves;  probe  your 
consciences  tonight.  I  think  if  we  can  all  answer  in  the  afBrmative  there  would 
be  a  much  wider  circulation  of  the  Daily  Worker  and  of  the  entire  press. 

We  must  begin  to  educate  through  the  medium  of  study  groups.  The  question 
of  study  groups  is  a  fundamental  problem,  of  course,  not  only  educational  work 
in  the  units,  but  actual  study  groups  where  groups  of  party  comrades  build 
around  themselves  nonparty  people,  and  begin  bringing  in  the  policies  of  our 
party  through  a  program  of  education  related  to  the  current  topics  of  the  houi*. 

I  would  say  that  if  the  comrades  of  the  section  could  see  their  way  to  instituting 
such  study  groups  around  the  professional  units  it  would  really  be  a  basic 
achievement — it  would  be  a  preparation  for  the  bolshevizing  of  the  comrades — 
for  making  genuine  Communists  of  the  entire  circle  of  party  comrades  and  their 
familiars.  The  leading  committees  should  actually  do  the  building  of  these 
study  gi-oups. 

And  further,  we  must  more  than  ever  impress  the  professionals — our  friends 
and  sympathizers,  that  we  have  a  positive  approach  also  to  their  work.  It  isn't 
just  a  question — they  shouldn't  imagine  that  they  are  just  brought  into  the  party 
as  tliough  to  be  turned  into  instruments  apart  from  their  work,  but  on  the  con- 
trary, that  their  coming  into  the  party  was  their  b^ing  friends  of  the  party  and 
sympathizers  as  in  terms  of  their  actual  work.  We  do  not  always  make  this 
clear.  The  party  increasingly  clierishes  and  values  sp'^cific  qualities  that  the 
professionals  bring  into  our  midst.  Gone  is  the  day  when  we  just  took  a  pro- 
fessional comrade  and  assigned  him  to  do  nondescript  party  work.  We  say,  on 
the  contrary,  comrades,  you  have  something  specific  to  give.  You  have  the 
general  contril)utions  to  make,  in  your  loyalty,  in  your  dues  payments,  your  at- 
tendance, and  your  various  duties  and  tasks  to  perform.     But  you  have  also  a 

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510  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

different  contribution  to  nuilce,  wliether  yon  are  a  writer,  a  tilm  artist,  a  radio 
performer.  We  need  Ihis  no  matter  how  valuable  you  are  to  the  party  on  the 
picket  line,  and  If  in  your  turn  you  do  not  contribute,  you  would  not  i*eally  be 
valuable  to  us.  Tliis  is  important  to  register.  And  we  must  also  register  the 
fact  that  the  party  is  not  satisfied  with  anything  save  the  best  in  terms  of 
quality  and  caliber  and  talent  that  the  comrades  can  produce.  Our  motto  is: 
Nothing  is  too  good  for  the  working  class — and  not,  as  some  say,  and  possibly  by 
their  inferior  work,  not  ))ecause  they  are  unable  to  do  better,  but  a  sort  of  sloppy 
arrangement,  that  anything  is  good  enough  for  the  working  class.  We  want 
quality.  We  want  good  leaflets,  splendid  posters,  such  as  tlie  Communist  Party 
of  Germany  used  to  put  out  when  artists  such  as  Kathe  KoUwitz  gave  of  their 
best  to  poster  production.  And,  of  course,  murals,  and  everything  that  is  good. 
We  want  our  basic  agitational  work  to  reflect  that  we  have  talented  professionals 
in  our  midst — good  sketches,  good  plays.  In  fact  unless  the  form  is  there  the 
content  is  not  there. 

I  came  across  something  recently — a  translation  of  a  poem — Rossett's  transla- 
tion of  Francois  Villon — "Where  are  the  snows  of  yesteryear?"  An  American 
paper  carried  in  translation  of  that  same  line :  "What's  become  of  last  year's 
snow?"  Is  it  really  the  same?  The  form  is  not  there.  And  as  Marxists,  as 
dialecticians,  we  believe  in  the  daily  unity  and  interpenetration  of  form  and 
content. 

I  was  present  last  night  at  a  cabaret — TAG.  I  want  to  say  that  I  think  the 
comrades  of  TAG  deserve  a  cheer  for  this  innovation  that  they  have  brought 
into  our  movemnt ;  it  opens  an  avenue  for  very  fine  achievements.  Speaking  in 
terms  of  medium  as  to  its  possibiliites,  it  possibilities  are  great.  There  was 
some  fine  singing,  good  schnitzelbank,  and  yet  at  the  end  we  had  something  tacked 
on  the  end  of  the  program  about  Mayor  Hague  in  the  form  of  a  round.  The 
form,  the  words  particularly,  and  music,  were  nothing  to  write  home  about. 
And  I  feel  that,  although  tlie  content  was  intended  with  the  form,  especially  I 
was  a  little  ashamed  of  the  thing,  because  these  comrades  can  do  so  much  better. 
The  content  wasn't  there  because  there  wasn't  that  medium  of  presenting  the  thing 
effectively.  I  say  that  as  party  comrades  we  must  be  the  first  to  demonstrate 
that  it  is  not  true  what  the  Eastmans  say,  "Artists  in  uniform,  crashing  art  out 
of  creation."  On  the  contrary,  we  have  to  demonstrate  by  our  creations  that  we 
are  the  ones  that  are  the  guardians  of  art.  Quality.  Stimulate;  criticize.  And 
we  demand  the  best  that  the  comrades  can  offer. 

We  have  Iiad  another  tendency,  comrades.  A  tendency — part  of  the  same 
thing — of  utilizing  certain  names  of  notables  for  public  statements.  Very  good, 
and  we  need  more  of  such  names.  But  I  think,  comrades,  that  if  we  get  these 
signatures  and  let  it  go  at  that  we  are  not  really  doing  the  right  thing  by  these 
people :  for  who  will  deny  the  fact  that  if  they  are  prepared  to  give  their  signa- 
tures for  a  progressive  cause,  even  for  a  direct  Communist  cause,  they  are  also 
prep'ired  in  one  way  or  another  to  vitalize  those  signatures  into  action?  Don't 
we  shy  off?  Just  leave  them  and  then  call  upon  them  again?  We  don't  want  to 
use  these  people  for  window  trimming.  These  are  people  who  demonstrate  by  that 
t'^at  tliey  want  to  do  something.  We  are  the  stimulators.  We  should  draw  them. 
Do  we?  You  will  find  that  very  often  we  neglect  these  people.  To  draw  them 
means  to  draw  them  to  do  something.  Why  can't  we  draw  some  of  these  people 
and  asl^  them  to  become  pamphleteers  for  our  cause.  Have  we  a  great  overage? 
Certainly  not. 

We  can  ask  them  to  become  poster  artists,  mural  makers.  They  can  embellish 
onr  shop  papers  and  do  various  performances  in  our  day-to-day  work  and  struggle. 
Thev  are  waiting  for  their  invitations.  Let's  give  them  a  ring.  I  think  we 
Itave  neglected  some  very  important  and  useful  people  in  America.  We  need 
and  we  can  get  cultural  workers  to  temper  the  press  with  protests,  with  letters, 
to  write  to  Congressmen  in  behalf  of  various  causes  that  we  promulgate.  These 
are  important  activities,  and  these  are  the  beginnings  to  bring  these  people 
closer,  and  this  has  to  become  a  systematic  activity.  Units  should  put  this  on 
the  agenda — how  to  draw  these  people  and  for  what  occasion.  This  will  help 
to  Americanize  our  work.  It  will  help  to  bring  our  message  to  greater  numbers; 
and  not  only  will  the  party  gain  but  we  will  thereby  make  use  of  the  special 
tnlents  which  are  remaining  idle  in  our  midst,  and  we  shall  be  making  happier 
and  more  devoted  party  comrades  of  these  professionals.  Let  us  remember  that 
the  enemy  class  bludgeons  the  masses  with  every  form  of  clubbing — the  radio, 
press,  and  so  forth.  Let  us  bear  in  mind  the  demagogic  use  to  which  they  are 
put.    Let  us  not  abandon  a  single  cultural  field  to  reaction.     The  Communist 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  511 

Party  is  by  its  valiUTit  leadership  administering  its  role  as  vanguard  of  progi-essive 
humanity.    Let  our  party  demonstrate  its  role  of  vanguard  of  modern  culture. 

Mr.  Stwrlixg.  Mr.  Rtissell,  will  you  name  the  bulletins  of  the 
International  Theatre  which  you  have  referred  to? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

Bulletin  No.  2  of  International  Theatre  published  in  1934,  pages  1, 
3,  4,  5,  and  T.*-  The  October  1934  issue  of  International  Theater,  on 
page  3,^*^  contains  an  article  describing  the  growth  of  the  revolutionary 
theater  in  the  United  States.  This  particular  article  states  that  such 
dramatists  as  Alfred  Kreymbourg,  John  Wexley,  Albert  Maltz,  George 
Sklar,  Lee  Simonson,  and  others  are  coming  over  to  the  revolutionary 
theater.  John  Wexley  and  Albert  Maltz  have  been  employed  by  the 
Hollywood  motion-picture  industry. 

Page  56  of  issue  3  and  4  of  International  Theater  for  the  year  1934 
contains  information  concerning  the  training  of  cadres  in  the  United 
States.** 

We  might  also  at  this  time  discuss  very  briefly  an  article  entitled 
"Straight  From  the  Shoulder,"  which  appeared  in  the  November 
1934  issue  of  the  New  Theater,  on  page  11,  which  was  written  by  John 
Howard  Lawson,  the  movie  w^riter,  *^  the  comment  of  the  editors  of  the 
New  Theatre  regarding  this  article  by  Lawson  is  as  follows : 

However,  John  Howard  Lawson's  argument  that  a  united-front  theater  cannot 
produce  specitically  Communist  plays  is  certainly  true,  and  he  has  brought  up 
real  but  not  insurmountable  difficulties  facing  playwrights,  whether  Socialists, 
Communists,  or  just  sympathetic,  who  write  for  such  united-front  organization 
and  audience.  His  article  indicates  the  immediate  need  for  a  Communist  pro- 
fessional theater  that  will  produce  plays  as  Lawson  and  others  will  write,  plays 
with  a  clear  Communist  line  and  straightforward  political  statements  and 
references. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or 
not  the  Soviet  Government  has  ever  sent  an  official  representative  to 
the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.    During  the  summer  of 

The  Chairmax.  Just  a  minute. 

This  testimony  is  very  important  to  the  committee.  The  commit- 
tee wants  to  hear  every  word  of  it.  We  will  just  have  to  maintain  the 
best  order  that  we  possibl}^  can. 

Go  ahead,  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Russell.  During  the  summer  of  1943,  one  Mikhial  Kalatozov 
made  his  appearance  in  Hollywood.  According  to  the  Soviet  Em- 
bassy in  Washington,  D.  C,  the  purpose  of  Kalatozov's  being  in  Holly- 
wood was  to  strengthen  the  artistic  and  commercial  ties  with  the 
cinema  people  of  the  United  States  and  those  of  the  Soviet  Union. 

Just  prior  to  Kalatozov's  arrival  announcement  of  the  fact  was 
made  by  Miss  Pauline  Swanson  of  the  National  Council  of  American- 
Soviet  Friendship,  814-816  Broadway,  Arcade  Building,  Los  Angeles, 
Calif.  According  to  this  announcement,  Mr.  Kalatozov  was  to  be 
presented  to  the  Hollywood  film  colony  at  a  reception  and  cocktail 
party  given  at  the  Mocambo  Restaurant  on  the  afternoon  of  August 
22, 1943.     An  article  in  the  west  coast  organ  of  the  Communist  Party, 

^-  See  appendix,  p.  550,  for  exhibit  96. 
f  See  appendix,  p.  550,  for  exhibit  97. 
^  See  appendix,  p.  550,  for  exhibit  98. 
=»  See  appendix,  p.  550,  for  exhibit  99. 


512  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

the  People's  World,  carried  the  following  item  concerning  Kalatozov 
in  its  issue  of  September  10, 1943.     This  article  is  quoted  as  follows : 

MOSCOW  LIAISON 

Mikhial  Kalatozov,  Soviet  film  director,  is  in  Hollywood  to  give  first-hand 
advice  on  pictures  dealing  with  Russia  and  to  study  Hollywood  methods.  They 
are  starting  him  off  with  a  reception  at  the  Mocambo. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  can  you  tell  the  committee  where  Mr. 
Kalatozov  resided  while  he  was  in  Los  Angeles,  the  address? 

Mr.  liussELL.  Yes.  While  in  Hollywood,  Kalatozov  resided  at 
4744  Los  Feliz  Boulevard,  which  is  located  close  to  the  Soviet  Con- 
sulate and  near  the  homes  of  some  of  Hollywood's  best-known  stars. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr,  Kussell,  to  what  extent  did  Mr.  Kalatozov  com- 
municate or  contact  people  in  the  motion-picture  industry? 

Mr.  Russell.  During  the  course  of  my  investigation  I  became 
familiar  with  the  content  of  several  cablegrams  which  indicated  that 
Kalatozov  had  contacted  various  motion-picture  studios  in  Hollywood. 

Mr.  Stripling.  AVoulcl  you  read  the  content  of  those  telegrams  to 
the  committee? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

One  of  these  cablegrams  was  dated  December  7,  1943,  wherein  it  is 
indicated  that  Kalatozov  cabled  his  superior,  Alexander  Andrei vsky, 
in  Moscow,  as  follows : 

Lawrence  agrees  to  distribute  our  films  in  Africa,  Italy,  France.  Agreement 
advantageous  to  us.     Imperative  that  we  receive  immediate  reply. 

As  yon  know,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  are  presently  investigating  this 
matter  and  there  will  be  an  identification  made  of  Lawrence  at  the 
time  a  report  is  submitted. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  yon  have  other  cablegrams,  Mr.  Russell? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  A  copy  of  a  cablegram  which  was  received  by 
Mikhial  Kalatozov  on  January  20,  1944,  from  his  superior  in  Moscow, 
Alexander  Adreivsky,  reads  as  follows: 

Agreement  RKO  not  received.  Will  cable  after  receipt.  Regarding  radio 
concert  you  should  receive  detailed  cable. 

This  cablegram  indicates  an  agreement  with  the  RKO  studios  in 
Hollywood  had  been  reached  between  Kalatozov  and  that     studio. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  cablegrams  indicating  connection  with 
other  studios  in  Hollywood? 

Mr,  Russell.  Yes. 

In  a  cablegram  dated  January  23,  1944,  addressed  to  Alexander 
Andreivsky,  of  the  cinema  committee  in  Moscow,  is  stated : 

Immediately  inform  if  Warner  Brothers  films  brought  to  Moscow  were  seen 
by  you. 

Mr.  Stripling,  Mr,  Russell,  do  you  recall  that  several  weeks  ago  the 
committee  held  a  hearing  on  Hanns  Eisler? 

Mr,  Russell.  Yes, 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  you  assist  in  the  investigation  of  Hanns  Eisler? 

Mr.  Russell,  Yes,  sir. 

]\Ir.  Stripling.  Did  you  go  to  California  early  this  year  to  assist  in 
that  iiivestigation  ? 

Mr.  Russell,  I  did. 


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Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  furnish  the  committee  with  some  infor- 
mation reofarding  the  association  of  Hanns  Eisler  with  certain  indi- 
viduals in  Hollywood? 

]\Ir.  Russell.  Yes. 

On  October  13,  1943,  Hanns  Eisler  and  his  wife,  Louise,  attended  a 
gathering  in  the  home  of  Paul  Jarrico,  727  Linda  Flora  Drive,  Los 
Angeles,  Calif.,  which  was  addressed  by  Joseph  North,  former  editor 
of  the  New  Masses. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

]Mi-.  Stripung.  I  believe  it  has  been  placed  in  the  testimony  here, 
Mr.  Chairman,  that  Paul  Jarrico  was  one  of  the  original  script  writers 
of  the  picture  Song  of  Russia,  about  which  there  has  been  considerable 
said  during  this  hearing. 

Mr.  Russell.  On  November  9, 1943,  the  Hanns  Eislers  were  invited 
to  an  affair  given  by  the  Russian  vice  consul  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif., 
by  V.  V.  Pastoev,  who  at  that  time  was  the  Soviet  vice  consul  in  Los 
Angeles.  On  November  16, 1943,  the  Eislers  entertained  the  Pastoevs 
at  a  party  in  their  home. 

On  January  10,  1944,  Gregori  Kheifets,  a  Soviet  vice  consul  from 
San  Francisco,  Calif.,  visited  Hanns  Eisler. 

]Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  for  the  purpose  of  the  record  Hanns 
Eisler  is  now  subject  to  deportation,  and  the  Immigration  and  Natu- 
ralization Service  has  arrested  him  and  he  is  out  on  bond  awaiting  a 
hearing  on  a  deportation  order.  At  the  time  of  the  hearing  he  was 
shown  to  be  the  head  of  the  International  Music  Bureau  with  head- 
quarters in  Moscow. 

Mr.  Russell,  did  you  receive  any  information  during  your  investi- 
gation regarding  the  brother  of  Hanns  Eisler,  Gerhart  Eisler,  who 
has  been  convicted  in  the  court  in  the  District  of  Columbia  for  being 
in  contempt  of  Congress  and  also  for  violation  of  the  passport  regula- 
tions ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

During  the  year  1940  certain  people  in  the  United  States  were  en- 
gaged in  a  campaign  to  purchase  Gerhart  Eisler's  way  out  of  a  con- 
centration camp  in  France.  This  campaign  started  when  Hanns 
Eisler,  the  brother  of  Gerhart  Eisler,  received  a  cablegram  from  Ger- 
hart asking  him  for  money  which  he  needed  for  an  operation.  This 
money  was  actually  to  be  used  for  the  purpose  of  buying  Gerhart 
Eisler's  way  out  of  the  concentration  camp  in  France. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  give  the  committee  the  details  regarding 
this  matter  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

One  person  active  in  this  matter  was  Charles  A.  Page,  who  was  in 
1940  a  free-lance  writer  in  Hollywood.    Also  active 

The  Chairman.  Now,  how  do  you  spell  that  name? 

Mr.  Russell.  Page,  P-a-g-e. 

Also  active,  Louise  Bransten. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  is  Louise,  L-o-u-i-s-e,  Bransten,  B-r-a-n- 
s-t-e-n? 

]\lr.  Russell.  That  is  right. 

Both  of  those  persons  engaged  in  considerable  activity  on  behalf 
of  Gerhart  Eisler.    It  is  a  known  fact  that  Page  requested  Louise 


514  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Bransten's  advice  as  to  how  the  situation  could  be  handled  and  it  was 
resolved  that  the  best  way  of  securing  information  concerning  the 
method  of  handling  the  situation  would  be  to  contact  an  individual 
known  as  Otto  Katz,  who  was  then  in  Connecticut.  It  might  be  re- 
called at  this  point  that  Gerhart  Eisler 

The  Chairman.  How  do  you  spell  that  last  name  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Katz,  K-a-t-z. 

It  might  be  recalled  at  this  point  that  Gerhart  Eisler  when  he  first 
entered  the  United  States  stated  before  the  immigration  officials  who 
examined  him  that  he  was  en  route  to  see  Otto  Katz  who  was  at  that 
time  residing  in  Mexico. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  further  identify  Otto  Katz,  Mr.  Russell? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  Otto  Katz,  whose  real  name  is  Andre  Simone, 
and  who  has  numerous  other  names  and  aliases,  is  a  known  agent  of 
the  Soviet  Government  who  was  very  active  in  Mexico  City  during 
the  period  of  the  late  war.  At  present  he  is  in  Czechoslovakia.  He 
was  also  very  active  in  Hollywood  at  one  time,  particularly  during  the 
year  1935. 

At  this  point  I  would  like  to  introduce  a  telegram  received  from  the 
chief  of  police  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  pertaining  to  Charles  A.  Page 
and  Hanns  Eisler. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  was  Mr.  Page  ever  employed  in  the 
Department  of  State? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  he  was  an  employee  of  the  Department  of  State. 

Mr.  Stripling.  I  will  come  to  that  in  just  a  moment.  Could  you 
further  identify  Louise  Bransten  as  soon  as  you  put  the  telegram  into 
the  record  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes,  I  will. 

During  the  testimony  of  Joseph  Savoretti  in  the  hearing  regarding 
Hanns  Eisler,  Mr.  Savoretti  made  several  statements  regarding  a  war- 
rant which  had  been  issued  for  the  arrest  of  Hanns  Eisler.  In  one  of 
these  statements  he  made  the  following  statement,  and  I  quote  from 
the  record  of  the  hearing : 

The  warrants  were  thereupon  sent  to  our  district  office  in  Philadelphia  by  the 
New  York  office  under  date  of  August  15  for  service.  The  investigator  of  the 
Philadelphia  office  learned  that  the  aliens  had  proceeded  to  2738  Outpost  Drive, 
care  of  Page,  Hollywood,  Calif. 

Yesterday  the  committee  dispatched  a  telegram  to  the  chief  of  police 
to  determine  whether  Charles  A.  Page,  who  has  been  mentioned  hereto- 
fore, was  identical  with  the  person  mentioned  in  the  testimony  of 
Charles  A.  Savoretti  regarding  the  warrant  which  had  been  issued  for 
the  arrest  of  Hanns  Eisler.  The  reply  of  V.  B.  Horrall,  chief  of  police, 
Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  states : 

Re  tel  Charles  A.  Page  and  Marv  Page.  Page  registered  at  273fi  Outpost  Drive, 
Hollywood,  from  1938  to  1941. 

I  believe  this  establishes  the  residence  of  the  Pages  at  2736  Outpost 
Drive  when  this  address  we  requested  was  2738  Outpost  Drive,  Holly- 
wood, Calif. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  will  you  identify  Louise  Bransten? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  She  was  born  on  October  10,  1908,  at  Berkeley, 
Calif.,  the  daughter  of  Abraham  Rosenberg  and  Alice  Greenlmum. 
She  is  the  former  wife  of  Richard  Bransten,  also  known  as  Bruce 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY  515 

Minton,  former  owner  of  New  Masses,  and  at  present  the  husband  of 
Until  INIcKenney,  the  writer,  botli  of  them  were  recently  expelled  from 
the  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States  on  a  charge  of  revisionism. 
McKinney  and  Bransten  have  both  been  employed  in  the  movie  indus- 
try. Louise  Bransten's  father  died  in  1929  and  left  an  estate  valued 
at  over  $2,000,000.  Louise  was  the  beneficiary  of  a  $500,000  trust  fund 
which  provided  that  $250,000  be  given  to  her  on  her  twenty-fifth 
birthday  and  the  other  half  upon  reaching  the  age  of  45.  At  the  age 
of  25  she  made  an  agreement  with  the  executors  of  her  father's  estate 
to  accept  shares  of  stock  in  a  particular  company  in  lieu  of  $250,000 
in  cash.  Li  view  of  the  fact  that  I  have  made  no  investigation  regard- 
ing the  company  mentioned  I  would  rather  furnish  its  name  in  execu- 
tive session  because  if  the  name  of  the  firm  is  mentioned  there  might 
be  an  unjust  reflection  on  its  character. 

In  1943,  after  her  mother's  death,  Louise  Bransten  inherited  a  large 
sum  of  money,  some  of  which  is  held  in  trust. 

Li  June  1933  Louise  Bransten,  accompanied  by  her  husband  Richard, 
made  a  6  weeks'  tour  of  the  Soviet  Union.  During  the  water-front 
strike  in  San  Francisco  Louise  and  Richard  Bransten  carried  out 
assignments  for  the  Communist  Party,  working  with  Earl  Bi'owder 
and  Gerhart  Eisler.  In  1944  Louise  Bransten  made  a  loan  of  $50,000 
to  the  People's  World,  which  is  the  west  coast  organ  of  the  Communist 
Party.  She  has  also  contributed  through  the  Rosenberg  Foundation, 
of  which  she  is  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors,  $6,000  to  the 
American-Russian  Institute,  and  $10,000  to  the  California  Labor 
School.  She  has  also  contributed  to  the  Joint  Anti-Fascist  Refugee 
Committee.  At  present  she  is  living  in  New  York  City  and  is  married 
to  Lionel  Berman,  who  is  interested  in  documentary  films.  Bransten 
is  now  employed  by  the  New  York  Committee  To  Win  the  Peace. 

Mr.  Stripling.   Now,  would  you  identify  Charles  A.  Page? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  The  last-known  address  of  this  person,  insofar 
as  I  know,  is  the  Jeiferson  Apartments,  Sixteenth  and  M  Streets  NW., 
Washington,  D.  C.  He  was  employed  by  the  State  Department  from 
about  the  year  1928  through  the  year  1933,  During  the  years  1934 
through  1941  he  was  a  free-lance  writer  in  Hollywood,  Calif.  When 
he  discontinued  this  type  of  work  he  returned  to  the  State  Depart- 
ment. He  has  been  in  contact  with  Louise  Bransten,  Haakon  Chevalier, 
Vassili  Zublin,  a  Soviet  diplomatic  ofhcial,  Herbert  Biberman,  John 
Howard  LaM'son,  Gerhart  Eisler,  Otto  Katz,  and  Hanns  Eisler.  He 
at  one  time  attempted  to  obtain  a  position  for  Haakon  Chevalier. 

INIr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  where  he  attempted  to  obtain  such 
position? 

]Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  with  the  Office  of  War  Information. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  through  whom  he  tried  to  get  the  job? 

Mr.  Russell.  Through  Robert  E.  Sherwood. 

The  Chairman.  Through  Robert  E.  who? 

Mr.  Russell.  Sherwood,  S-h-e-r-w-o-o-d. 

Mv.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  he  obtained  a  position  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  No;  he  did  not  obtain  a  position. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  what  commission  Page 
held  in  the  State  Department?  Is  he  in  the  State  Department  at  this 
time,  INIr.  Russell  ? 

]Mr.  Russell.  No  ;  he  is  not  in  the  State  Department  at  the  present 
time. 


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Mr.  Striplincx.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  he  was  ever  contacted 
in  Washington  by  Louise  Bransten  while  he  was  in  the  State  De- 
partment? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.    On  January  3, 1944. 

Mr.  Stripijng.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  the  nature  of  work  or  the 
place  of  employment  of  Page  wliile  he  was  in  the  State  Department? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  At  one  time  he  was  assigned  to  the  American 
Embassy  in  Montevideo,  Uruguay.  During  this  employment  he  cor- 
responded frequently  with  Herbert  Biberman  and  John  Howard  Law- 
son,  of  the  Hollywood  movie  colony.  This  person  was  referred  to 
upon  one  occasion  by  a  leading  Connnunist  in  Mexico  as  being  "one 
of  our  men,"  and  this  Communist  in  this  connection  said  of  Page,  "We 
have  one  of  our  men  right  inside  the  American  embassy  and  we  get 
the  real  inside  dope  from  there." 

I  could  name  the  person  who  said  this,  if  the  committee  considers  it 
necessary. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  Page  was  also  attached  to  the  cul- 
tural— he  was  the  cultural  attache  at  the  embassy  in  Paris  for  a  while. 

Mr.  Russell.  He  was  also  in  New  York  with  the  cultural  section  of 
the  State  Dejoartment. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  during  your  investigation  of  Louise 
Bransten  did  you  determine  whether  or  not  she  was  in.  communication 
with  various  officials  of  the  Soviet  Government  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

On  April  25,  1945,  Louise  Bransten  was  contacted  by  Stepan  Apre- 
sian,  of  the  Soviet  consulate.  Apresian  was  attached  to  the  Soviet 
consulate  in  San  Francisco.  She,  Louise  Bransten,  was  contacted  by 
this  individual  in  San  Francisco  at  the  Hotel  Canterbury  on  April  25, 
1945.  The  purpose  of  this  meeting,  which  was  arranged  by  a  Mr. 
Khrameev,  of  the  Soviet  consulate,  was  to  arrange  for  the  distribution 
of  40,000  copies  of  a  speech  to  be  made  by  Molotov  before  the  United 
Nations  Conference  at  San  Francisco. 

On  the  24th  of  April  1945  Bransten  was  requested  to  work  on  the 
translation  of  this  speech  at  the  Soviet  consulate  in  San  Francisco, 
Calif.  Ten  thousand  copies  of  Molotov's  speech  were  purchased  by 
the  International  Workers  Order,  as  a  matter  of  information.  The 
40,000  copies  of  Molotov's  speech  were  to  be  distributed  after  they  had 
been  printed  by  a  particular  lithographing  and  printing  company  in 
San  Francisco. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  prefer  to  give  the  name  of  the  company  in  execu- 
tive session. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Sti?ipling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  your 
investigation  disclosed  ^vhether  or  not  Louise  Bransten  entertained 
any  of  the  officials  of  the  Soviet  Government? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

On  May  19, 1945,  Dmitri  Manuilsky,  the  Ukraine  Communist  leader, 
was  the  guest  of  honor  at  a  dinner  given  by  Louise  Bransten  in  her 
home.  Dimitri  Manuilsky  was  a  member  of  the  three-man  board 
which  functioned  as  the  Communist  International  during  the  late  war. 
This  was  during  the  time  that  the  Communist  International  had  sup- 
posedly been  dissolved.     Other  persons  who  attended  the  dinner  given 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY  517 

by  Bransten  for  Maniiilsky  were  Frederick  Thompson,  Holland 
Roberts,  president  of  the  California  Labor  School,  and  Max  Yergan. 

Mr.  Stripling.  That  was  Holland  Roberts  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Stripling.  H-o-l-l-a-n-d? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.     Roberts,  R-o-b-e-r-t-s. 

INIr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  will  you  tell  the  committee  the  various 
connections  between  Louise  Bransten  and  persons  in  Hollywood  or 
the  motion-picture  industry  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes. 

First,  we  have  the  direct  connection  between  Louise  Bransten  and 
Charles  A.  Page,  who  operated  as  a  free-lance  writer  in  Hollywood  for 
a  period  of  7  years.  Then  tliere  is  the  association  of  Gregori  Kheifets, 
the  Soviet  consul,  with  Hanns  Eisler  and  Louise  Bransten. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  point  out  that  Mr. 
Bsrthold  Brecht,  the  witness  this  morning,  admitted  having  met  with 
Kheifets  on  several  occasions  and  of  Kheifets  coming  to  his  liome. 

Mr.  Russell.  Hanns  Eisler,  of  course,  was  employed  by  the  Holly- 
wood moving-picture  industry.  Then  there  is  a  tie-up  between  Page, 
tlie  associate  of  Bransten,  and  Herbert  Biberman  and  John  Howarct 
Lawson  of  the  movie  colony.  Also  it  might  be  stated  at  this  point 
that  when  Louise  Bransten  went  to  New  York  City  in  November 
1945  she  was  contacted  by  an  individual  known  as  George  George,  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party,  and  a  contact  of  Hanns  Eisler  in 
Los  Angeles,  Calif.  George  at  one  time  worked  for  one  of  the  studios 
in  Hollywood  as  a  free-lance  writer. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  he  work  for  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer,  Mr. 
Russell  ? 

Mv,  Russell.  Yes. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  at  this  point  furnish  the  committee  with 
any  information  concerning  contacts  in  Hollywood,  Calif.,  which 
have  been  made  by  outstanding  or  notorious  leaders  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

jNIr.  Russell.  Yes. 

On  May  3,  1942,  Alexander  Stevens,  also  known  as  J.  Peters,  and 
whose  real  name  is  Goldberger,  visited  Los  Angeles,  Calif.  When  he 
arrived  in  Los  Angeles  he  was  met  by  Herbert  Biberman  at  the  Union 
Station.  During  that  day  a  meeting  was  held  by  Alexander  Stevens, 
Waldo  Salt,  and  Herbert  Biberman.  Also  on  tliat  same  date  another 
metting  was  held  at  Herbert  Biberman's  home,  which  was  attended  by 
Paul  Jarrico,  Morton  Grant,  Robert  Rossen,  and  Hyman  Kraft.  Ros- 
sen,  Biberman,  Salt,  and  Jarrico  are  also  associated  with  the  motion- 
picture  industry.  Also  on  that  same  date  a  third  meeting  was  held  by 
Alexander  Stevens,  J.  Peters,  R.  Goldberger,  as  he  is  known,  Morton 
Grant,  John  Howard  Lawson,  and  Vera  Harris,  the  wife  of  Lou  Harris, 
a  screen  writer. 

During  the  evening  of  May  3,  1942,  another  meeting  was  held  in 
Herbert  Biberman's  home  between  Stevens  or  Peters,  John  Howard 
Lawson,  Lester  Cole,  Madeline  Ruthven,  and  Herta  Uerkvitz.  Lester 
Cole  is  a  screen  writer  while  Ruthven  and  Uerkvitz  are  Communist 
Party  functionaries  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif.  Ruthven,  Lawson,  Stevens, 
and  Salt  also  held  a  meeting  on  the  same  date,  late  at  night,  in  the 
home  of  Waldo  Salt.     During  this  visit,  among  other  things,  Stevens 


518  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

was  working  on  the  Communist-inspired  movement  to  secure  the  re- 
lease of  Earl  Browder,  Communist  l^arty  president  at  that  time,  from 
a  Federal  penitentiary,  where  he  had  been  incarcerated  on  a  charoe  of 
usin<>;  a  false  passport  to  travel  to  the  Soviet  Union. 

Stevens  also  had  a  very  successful  financial  trip  since  he  collected 
$1,500,  or  furnished  this  sum  to  Communist  Party  functionaries  in 
California,  which  he  had  received  from  Louise  Bransten.  He  also 
received  the  sum  of  $2,200  from  a  Ruth  Wilson,  whom  I  can  identify 
in  executive  session,  the  reason  being  that  she  at  present  may  have  a 
connection  with  a  leading  department  store  in  the  United  States  and 
I  am  certain  that  any  mention  of  her  name  in  connection  with  that 
department  store  would  cast  an  unjust  reflection  upon  the  particular 
store,  because  I  know  its  reputation. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection. 

Mr,  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  with  reference  to  J.  Peters,  or  Stev- 
ens, I  should  like  to  state  that  the  committee  issued  a  subpena  calling 
for  his  appearance  before  the  committee  yesterday.  However,  we  have 
been  unable  to  serve  the  subpena.  It  was  issued  several  months  ago. 
He  was  arrested  by  the  immigration  authorities  about  3  weeks  ago 
in  Poughkeepsie,  N.  Y. 

The  committee  has  evidence  to  show  that  J.  Peters,  or  Alexander 
Stevens,  or  Isadore  Boorstein,  as  he  is  also  known,  has  for  years  been 
the  leader  of  the  underground  section  of  the  Communist  Party  in 
the  United  States. 

The  committee  has  the  passport,  a  fraudulent  passport,  by  the  way, 
which  he  traveled  to  the  Soviet  Union  on  on  October  7,  1931,  under 
the  name  of  Isadore  Boorstein.  When  and  if  we  can  obtain  Mr. 
Peters  and  have  him  before  the  committee  we  will  go  into  great  detail 
concerning  his  activities. 

The  Chairman.  Well,  I  would  like  to  make  this  point,  and  that  is 
that  the  Government  agencies  that  we  have  asked  to  aid  us  in  getting 
Mr.  Peters  haven't  been  either  very  alert  or  cooperative.  They  have 
known  that  we  have  wanted  Peters  for  a  long  time. 

Go  ahead,  Mr.  Stripling. 

But  I  do  want  to  point  out  right  at  that  point  that  the  Govern- 
ment agencies  that  I  have  in  mind  do  not  include  the  Federal  Bureau 
of  Investigation. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  did  your  investigation  disclose  whether 
or  not  Louise  Bransten  was  ever  contacted  by  Gerhart  Eisler? 

JNIr.  Russell.  Yes.  On  December  29,  194:3,  she  was  a  guest  at  a 
dinner  given  by  Lenient  U.  Harris,  of  Chappaqua,  N.  Y.,  at  his  home. 
Gerhart  Eisler  was  present  at  this  dinner. 

Mv.  Stripling.  Could  you  identify  Lenient  Harris  further  for  the 
committee? 

]Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  Lement  Harris  is  high  in  the  Communist  Party 
circles  of  the  United  States.  He  has  charge  of  the  party's  work 
among  the  agricultural  workers  in  the  United  States  as  well  as  the 
Western  Hemisphere.  He  also  has  something  to  do  with  Communist 
Party  financing  in  the  United  States,  since  it  is  known  that  he  at- 
tempted to  persuade  Louise  Bransten  to  invest  $10,000  in  the  Salute 
magazine. 

Mr.  Stripling.  S-a-1-u-t-e? 

Mr.  Russell.  S-a-1-u-t-e. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  519 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  your  investiga- 
tion disclosed  whether  or  not  Peters  was,  or  Alexander  Stevens  was, 
very  successful  in  raising  funds  among  various  people  in  the  motion- 
picture  industry  when  he  was  out  there  in  behalf  of  Earl  Browder? 

Mr.  Russell.  Well,  the  donations  that  I  know  about  are  those  re- 
ceived from  Louise  Bransten  and  Ruth  Wilson.  However,  it  is  known 
that  Bransten — or,  that  Stevens,  or  Peters,  as  he  is  known,  visited  a 
bank  with  Herbert  Biberman  and  that  Biberman  entered  a  safety 
deposit  box  in  the  bank.  However,  I  can't  state  whether  or  not  he 
got  money  from  the  box. 

Mr.  Striplixg.  He  did  enter  the  bank  with  Peters  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  do  you  have  any  information  regarding 
further  contacts  on  the  part  of  Louise  Bransten  with  other  persons 
associated  with  the  Soviet  Government? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  she  has  been  associated  with  Vassili  Zublin,  or 
the  Soviet  Embassy  in  Washington,  D.  C.  She  has  also  been  asso- 
ciated with  Gregori  Kheifets,  of  the  Soviet  consulate  in  San  Francisco, 
and  Mr.  V.  V.  Pastoev,  of  the  Soviet  consulate  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

For  instance,  on  May  12,  1944,  Gregori  Kheifets,  Aubrey  Whitney 
Grossman,  and  John  Tripp  McTernan,  were  in  attendance  at  a  party 
in  San  Francisco  which  was  given  by  Louise  Bransten. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Did  your  investigation  disclose  whether  or  not 
Bransten  is  an  important  figure  in  the  Communist  set-up  in  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Russell.  Bransten  is  what  would  be  termed  in  a  confidence  game 
lacket  as  the  sharper  or  the  loader.  That  is,  in  Communist  Party 
circles  she  directs  the  manner  in  which  contacts  with  certain  people 
are  to  be  made,  whether  or  not  these  persons  are  connected  with  the 
Communist  Party  of  the  United  States  or  other  countries,  or  whether 
they  are  connected  with  the  Communist  Party  at  all.  She  has  con- 
tacts, did  have  them,  in  numerous  Government  agencies.  However, 
there  are  so  many  names  that 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment,  Mr.  Russell,  on  that  point.  Could 
you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  Louise  Bransten  was  in  com- 
munication or  put  in  communication  with  certain  individuals  who 
were  approached  by  an  agent  of  the  Soviet  Government,  or  representa- 
tives of  the  Soviet  Government,  regarding  certain  espionage  activities? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes.  Louise  Bransten  was  closely  associated  with 
Peter  Ivanov,  the  Russian  vice  consul  in  San  Francisco,  Calif.  He 
was  also  a  secretary  in  that  consulate.  I  understand  Mr.  Ivanov  has 
returned  to  Soviet  Russia.  I  have  some  information  regarding  his 
stay  in  the  consulate  at  San  Francisco,  Calif.,  if  you  want  it  read  into 
the  record. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  Louise 
Bransten  was  associated  with  a  man  by  the  name  of  George  Charles 
Eltenton  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  she  was  very  closely  associated  with  George 
Charles  Eltenton,  and  his  wife  Dolly. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Could  you  identify  George  Charles  Eltenton  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  Charles  Eltenton  was  an  employee  of  the  Shell 
Development  Corp.  in  Emoryville,  Calif.,  from  1938,  and  I  know  that 
during,  that  is,  as  late  as  July  1946.  He  possibly  is  still  employed 
there. 


520  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  wliether  or  not  George  Charles  Elten- 
ton  ever  made  any  trips  to  the  Soviet  Union  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  it  is  known  that  he  spent  some  time  in  Soviet 
Russia  and  that  he  lived  in  the  vicinity  of  Leningrad.  While  there 
he  became  very  familiar  with  the  Russian  language  and  as  the  result 
w^as  asked  to  translate  several  Russian  works  into  the  English  language. 

For  instance,  he  was  requested  to  translate  a  book  written  by  a 
Victor  Konratiev,  a  book  written  by  V.  Konratiev,  entitled,  "The 
Free  Hydroylem."  Konratiev  is  a  friend  of  Joffe,  who  developed 
the  first  atom  smashing  machine  in  the  Soviet. 

Mr.  Eltenton,  along  with  his  wife  Dolly,  attended  a  party  given 
by  Louise  Bransten  on  November  10,  1944,  and  at  the  time  Eltenton 
was  trying  to  educate  a  scientist  along  Soviet  lines  since  he  had 
loaned  this  particular  scientist  a  copy  of  the  Soviet  Constitution 
which  he  asked  him  to  read.  I  can  identify  that  scientist  if 
necessary. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  this  scientist  employed  at  the  radiation  lab- 
oratory in  California? 

Mr.  Russell.  He  was  employed  at  the  radiation  laboratory  at  tlie 
University  of  California. 

Mr.  Stripling.  At  Berkeley? 

Mr.  Russell.  At  Berkeley. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Eltenton  attended  a 
reception  in  the  honor  of  Molotov  in  the  St.  Francis  Hotel  in  San 
Francisco  on  May  7,  1945? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  he  did  attend  the  reception  for  Molotov  in  the 
St.  Francis  Hotel  on  May  7,  1945,  during  which  he  held  quite  a  con- 
versation with  Mr.  Molotov. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Do  you  have  any  information  regarding  further 
association  between  Bransten,  Louise  Bransten.  and  Eltenton  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  it  is  known  that  Louise  Bransten  at  one  time 
attempted  to  secure  employment  for  Dolly  Eltenton  with  the  Ameri- 
can-Russian Institute  through  Gregory  Kheifets.  Also  Louise  Bran- 
sten requested  Eltenton  to  send  a  telegram  of  congratulations  to  a 
Russian  scientific  society  in  the  Soviet  Union  and  during  the  month 
of  July  1940,  it  was  sent.  The  person  in  charge  of  this  scientific 
gathering  in  Soviet  Russia  was  an  individual  known  as  Peter  Kapitza. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not 
Eltenton  was  ever  contacted  by  an  official  of  the  Soviet  Government 
regarding  espionage  activity. 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  during  the  year  1942,  the  latter  part,  Eltenton 
was  contacted  by  Peter  Ivanov,  whom  I  have  identified  as  a  vice 
consul  of  the  Soviet  Government  and  a  secretary  in  its  consulate  in 
San  Francisco.  Ivanov  requested  Eltenton  to  secure  information 
concerning  some  highly  secret  work  which  was  being  carried  on  at 
the  radiation  laboratory  at  the  University  of  California.  Ivanov 
offered  Eltenton  money  in  return  for  his  cooperation  in  securing  in- 
formation regarding  the  secret  Avork  which  was  being  conducted  at 
the  University  of  California  and  Berkeley  in  its  radiation  laboratory. 

M'r.  Stripling.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Eltenton,  in  further- 
ance of  this  offer,  contacted  anyone  else? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  in  order  to  cooperate  with  Ivanov  he  approached 
Haakon  Chevalier,  who  was  a  professor  at  the  University  of 
California 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  521 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment.  Is  he  the  same  person  who  was  a 
Avriter  in  the  fihn  industry  for  several  years  ? 

Mr.  K,ussp:ll.  I  have  no  information  concerning  his  occupation  in 
tlie  fihn  industry. 

Mr.  Stripling.  All  right,  proceed. 

Mr.  Russell.  And  requested  him  to  find  out  what  was  being  done 
at  the  radiation  laboratory,  particularly  information  regarding  the 
highly  destructive  weapon  which  was  being  developed  through  re- 
searcli.  Eltenton  told  Chevalier  that  he  had  a  line  of  communication 
with  an  official  of  the  Soviet  Government  who  had  advised  him  that 
since  Russia  and  the  United  States  were  allies  Soviet  Russia  should 
be  entitled  to  any  technical  data  which  might  be  of  assistance  to  that 
nation. 

At  the  time  of  this  particular  conversation  Chevalier  advised  Elten- 
ton that  he  would  contact  a  third  person  who  was  working  in  the 
radiation  laboratory  and  attempt  to  secure  information  regarding  the 
type  of  work  conducted  there  or  any  information  which  he  could  re- 
garding technical  developments  which  might  be  of  assistance  to  the 
Soviet  Government. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Russell,  can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or 
not  Mr.  Chevalier  did  contact  a  scientist  employed  in  the  radiation 
laboratory? 

M'r.  Russell.  Yes;  Chevalier  approached  this  third  person. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Was  that  third  person  J.  Robert  Oppenheimer? 

Mr.  Russell.  That  is'  right ;  Chevalier  approached  this  third  person, 
J.  Robert  Oppenheimer,  and  told  him  that  George  Charles  Eltenton 
was  interested  in  obtaining  information  regarding  technical  develop- 
ments under  consideration  by  the  United  States  and  also  that  Eltenton 
was  interested  in  obtaining  information  regarding  the  work  being 
performed  at  the  radiation  laboratory  at  the  University  of  California. 
This  third  person 

Mr.  Stripling.  Just  a  moment.  Did  Chevalier  tell  J.  Robert  Oppen- 
hiemr  that  he  had  the  means  of  communication  whereby  he  could 
transmit  such  information  to  the  Soviet  Union  'i 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes;  he  did.  He  told  J.  Robert  Oppenheimer  that 
Eltenton  had  a  source  through  which  he  could  relay  the  information 
to  the  Soviet  Government. 

Mr.  Stripling.  What  did  Mr.  Oppenheimer  reply  to  this  approach 
on  the  part  of  Mr.  Chevalier  ? 

Mr.  Russell.  He  said  that  he  considered  such  attempts  as  this  to 
secure  information  a  treasonable  act  and  that  he  certainly  would  not 
have  anything  to  do  with  such  a  thing. 

M'r.  Stripling.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  whether  or  not  J.  Robert 
Oppenheimer  subsequently  worked  on  the  atomic  project  at  Los 
Alamos,  N.  Mex.,  in  the  development  of  the  atomic  bomb? 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes ;  he  did.     He  was  in  charge  of  it. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Mr.  Chairman,  there  are  further  questions  here 
regarding  this  matter  which  involve  various  individuals  which  I  think 
that  the  committee  should  consider  in  executive  session  before  w^e 
make  their  name's  public. 

The  Chairman.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Stripling.  Those  are  all  the  questions  that  I  have  at  this  time 
from  Mr.  Russell. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  McDowell. 


522  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Mr.  McDowell.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Vail. 

Mr.  Vail.  No  questions. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Russell,  just  sit  right  there,  please. 

Mr.  Russell.  Yes,  sir. 

The  Chairman.  The  Chair  would  like  to  make  this  statement. 

The  hearings  today  conclude  the  first  phase  of  the  committee's 
investigation  of  communism  in  the  motion-picture  industry.  While 
we  have  heard  39  witnesses,  there  are  many  more  to  be  heard.  The 
Chair  stated  earlier  in  the  hearing  he  would  j^resent  the  records  of  79 
prominent  people  associated  Avith  the  motion-picture  industry  who 
were  members  of  the  Communist  Party  or  who  had  records  of  Com- 
munist affiliations.  We  have  had  before  us  11  of  these  individuals. 
There  are  68  to  go.  This  hearing  has  concerned  itself  principally  with 
.spotlighting  Communist  personnel  in  the  industry. 

There  is,  however,  an  equally  dangerous  phase  of  this  inquiiy  which 
deals  with  Communist  propaganda  in  various  motion  pictures  and  the 
techniques  employed.  At  the  present  time  the  committee  has  a  special 
stalf  making  an  extensive  study  of  this  phase  of  the  committee's  in- 
quiry. Either  the  full  committee  or  a  subcommittee  will  resume  hear- 
ings on  this  matter  in  the  near  future,  either  in  Washington  or  in  Los 
Angeles,  at  which  time  those  persons  whose  Communist  records  the 
committee  has  will  be  given  an  opportunity  to  appear  before  the 
committee  to  confirm  or  deny  those  affiliations.  We  will  also  have  a 
number  of  witnesses  who  will  deal  with  propaganda  in  the  films  and 
the  techniques  employed. 

I  want  to  emphasize  that  the  committee  is  not  adjourning  sine  die, 
but  will  resume  hearings  as  soon  as  possible.  The  committee  hear- 
ings for  the  past  2  weeks  have  clearly  shown  the  need  for  this  investi- 
gation. Ten  prominent  figures  in  Hollywood  whom  the  committee  had 
evidence  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party  were  brought  before 
us  and  refused  to  deny  that  they  were  Comuumists.  It  is  not  neces- 
sary for  the  Chair  to  emphasize  the  harm  which  the  motion-picture 
industry  suffers  from  the  presence  witliin  its  ranks  of  known  Com- 
munists who  do  not  have  the  best  interests  of  the  United  States  at 
heart.  The  industry  should  set  about  immediately  to  clean  its  own 
house  and  not  wait  for  public  opinion  to  force  it  to  do  so. 

The  hearings  are  adjourned. 

(Whereupon,  at  3  p.  m.,  the  committee  adjourned.) 


APPENDIX 


The  following  were  introduced  with  testimony  in  the  course  of  the 
hearings  before  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  October 
20,  21,  22,  23,  24,  27,  28,  29,  and  30,  1947,  and  are  retained  in  the  files 
of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  as  exhibits : 

Exhibit  1.  Statement  of  Jack  L.  Warner. 

Exhibit  2.  Testimony  of  Jack  L.  Warner  in  executive  session  before  the  Sub- 
committee on  Un-American  Activities,  May  15,  1947,  in  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Exhibit  3.  List  of  43  tilms  introduced  by  Jack  L.  Warner. 

Exhibit  4.  Motion  Picture  News,  March  23,  1918;  review  written  by  Peter 
Milne  of  the  film.  My  Four  Years  in  Germany,  based  on  book  under  same  title 
by  James  W.  Gerard. 

Exhibit  5.  List  of  39  films,  pro-American  short  subjects,  submitted  by  Jack  L. 
Wtirner. 

Exhibit  6.  Statement  by  Senator  Martin,  of  Pennsylvania,  United  States 
Senate,  Congressional  Record,  July  16,  1947,  on  education  in  patriotism  through 
motion  pictures. 

Exhibit  7.  List  of  26  pro-American  short  subject  films  produced  by  Warner 
Bros,  studio  in  cooperation  with  the  United  States  Armed  Forces. 

Exhibit  8.  New  York  Times.  D?cember  8.  1941,  page  1 ;  January  3.  1942,  page 
1 ;  January  7,  1942,  page  1 ;  January  23,  1942,  page  1 ;  February  11,  1942,  page  1 ; 
F(*ruary  16,  1942,  page  1 ;  Feln-uary  19.  1942,  page  1 ;  March  2,  1942,  page  1 ; 
March  10,  1942,  page  1 ;  March  15,  1942.  page  1 ;  March  27,  1942,  page  1 ;  April  9, 
1942,  page  1;  April  10,  19. '2,  page  1  ;  Mav  1,  1942,  page  1;  May  7,  1942,  page  1; 
May  12,  1942,  page  1 ;  May  27,  1942.  page  1 ;  June  5,  1942,  page  1 ;  June  S,  1942, 
page  1 ;  June  12,  1942,  page  1 ;  June  13,  1942,  page  6 ;  June  22,  1912,  pag^  1 ;  July 
2,  1942,  page  1 ;  July  11,  1942,  page  1 ;  July  25,  1912,  page  1 ;  August  8,  1C42,  page 
1 ;  August  19,  1942,  page  1 ;  August  26,  1942,  page  1 ;  September  1,  1942,  page  1 ; 
September  9,  19^2.  page  1 ;  September  10,  1942,  page  1 :  September  13,  1942,  page 
1 ;  September  17,  1942,  page  1 :  Septemlier  27,  1942,  page  1 :  October  5,  1942,  page 
1;  October  13,  1942,  page  1:  October  17,  1942,  page  1;  October  27,  1942,  page  1; 
November  8,  1942.  page  1 ;  November  23.  19^2,  page  1 ;  December  5,  1942,  page  1 ; 
December  20,  19J2,  page  1 ;  December  22,  lf^42.  page  1 :  December  30,  1942,  page  1. 

Exhibit  9.  Warner  Bros.  Pictures,  Inc.,  Employment  Application  and  Personnel 
Record,  first  us"d  in  1936. 

Exhibit  10.  Warner  Bros.  Pictures,  Inc.,  Employment  Application  and  Per- 
sonnel Record,  first  used  in  1941. 

Exhibit  11.  Photograph  showing  John  Howard  Lawson  in  film-strike  picket  line 
at  Warner  Bros,  in  1945. 

Exhibit  12.  Pamphlet  issued  by  the  National  Federation  for  Constitutional 
Liberties. 

Exhibit  13.  Leaflet,  Who's  Next,  in  connection  with  the  film  strike  in  1945, 
issued  by  the  Communist  Party  of  Los  Angeles  County. 

Exhibit  14.  Flyer,  The  Issue  in  the  Strike,  issued  to  picket  lines  in  the  film 
strike  of  1945  by  the  North  Hollywood  Communist  Club. 

Exhibit  15.  N?w  Misses,  October  23,  1945,  page  20,  open  letter  to  Jack  Warner. 

Exhibit  16.  lATPE  Bulletin,  November  2,  1945,  Los  Angeles,  Calif. 

Exhibit  17.  lATSE  Bulletin,  November  13,  1945,  Los  Angeles,  Calif, 

523 


524  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Exhibit  18.  Subpena — Jack  L.  Wakneb 

Marslial's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  CoNGitEss  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  coirimanded  to  .summon  .Jack  L.  Warner,  Warner  Bros.  Studios, 
40;h)  W.  Olive,  Burbank.  California  (business),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un- 
American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  I'arnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman,  in  their 

chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of then  and 

there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee;  and 
he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

( Signed )     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  19.  Subpena — Sam  Wood 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket  No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Represj  ntatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Sam  Wood,  Universal  Studios,  Universal 
City,  California  (business),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Activities 
Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which  the 
Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the 

city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of then  and  there  to  testify 

touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart 
without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  20.  Subpena — Louis  B.  Mayer 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  page  48G 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Louis  B.  INIayer,  910  Benedict  Canyon 
Road  (residence)  ;  Metro-Goldwyn-]\Iayer  Studios,  Culver  City  (business),  to  be 
and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Activities  (Committee  of  the  House  of  Repre- 
sentatives of  the  Unit<'d  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  .1.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New 
Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  Forthwith,  at  the 

hour  of then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed 

to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY  525 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  tliis  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

( Signed )     J.  Paknell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  21.  Statement  of  Louis  B.  Mayer. 

Exhibit  22.  Loew's  Inc.,  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  Pictures,  salary  paid  and  scripts 
worked  on  by  Dalton  Trumbo  from  1943  to  October  4,  1947. 

Exhibit  23.  Loew's  Inc.,  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  Pictures,  salary  paid  and  scripts 
worked  on  by  Lester  Cole  from  1945  to  October  4,  1947. 

Exhibit  24.  Loew's  Inc.,  Metro-Goldwn-Mayer  Pictures,  salary  paid  and  scripts 
worked  on  by  Donald  Ogden  Stewart  from  1943. to  October  4,  1947. 

Exhibit  25.  Congressional  Record,  July  15,  1947,  page  3727,  copy  of  address 
made  by  Mr.  Louis  B.  INIayer  before  the  Newspaper  Advertising  Executives  Asso- 
ciation, San  Francisco,  July  7,  1947. 

Exhibit  26.  Letter :  Ayu  Rand  to  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
November  1,  1947. 

Exhibit  27.  Subpena — Adolph  Menjou 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States  of 

America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Adolphe  Jean  IMeujou,  722  North  Bed- 
ford Drive,  Beverly  Hills,  California  (residence)  to  be  and  appear  before  the 
Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their 

chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of ,  then 

and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee ; 
and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  28.  Photostatic  copies  of  Communist  Party  documents  and  exemplars 
of  the  handwriting  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  in  connection  with  the  testimony  of 
the  noted  examiners  of  questioned  documents :  Clark  Sellers  and  John  L. 
Harris  *  *  *  before  the  Joint  Fact-Finding  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  in  California  of  the  California  Legislature,  at  hearings  in  Los  Angeles, 
Calif.,  January  4,  1946. 

29.  Subpena — John  Charles  Moffitt 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  82080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  John  C.  MoflStt,  463  S.  McCadden,  Los 
Angeles  (residence)  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Activities  Com- 
mittee of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon. 
J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of 

Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of  ■  then  and  there  to  testify 

touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee  ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart 
without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

67C83— 47 34 


526  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  tliis  2r)th  day  of  September,  1947. 

(Signed)   J.  Paknell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest :  John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  30.  Letter 

New  York  London  Chicago  Hollywood 

Executive  OflSees  Telephone  Circle  7-2160 

Established  1898 

William  Mokris  Agency,  Inc. 

Rockefeller  Center,  1270  Sixth  Avenue,  New  York  20,  N.  Y. 

October  27,  1947. 
Mr.  J.  P.  Thomas, 

Chainnan,  House  Committco,  Washington,  D.  C. 
Dear  Sii:  :  On  behalf  of  John  Weber  of  California  I  am  handing  you  herewith 
a  photostatic  copy  of  a  sworn-to  statement  made  by  him.  1  am  also  including  a 
ph(;tostatic  copy  of  a  similarly  sworn-to  statement  by  Helen  Straus  of  New  York. 
1  will  send  to  you  the  originals  of  these  statements  as  soon  as  I  can  have  copies 
of  them  made  for  the  members  of  your  committee. 

1   ask  that  you  immediately  p. ace  these  statements  into  the  record  of  the 
present  hearings  and  that  you  acknowledge  to  me  at  my  office  at  the  adtlress 
above  given,  that  this  has  been  done. 
Yours  truly, 

William  Morris  (Signed). 
William  Morris,  President. 
Cable  :  "Willmorris"  New  York.     "Willholl"  Hollywood. 

Exhibit  31.  Affidavit 

State  of  California, 

County  of  Los  Angeles,  ss: 

John  Weber,  being  first  duly  sworn,  deposes  and  says : 

I  am  a  resident  of  Los  Angeles,  California,  and  a  literary  agent  employed  as 
such  by  the  William  Morris  Agency,  Inc.,  since  shortly  after  my  honorable  dis- 
charge from  the  Army  on  October  'IS,  1944. 

Around  the  beginning  of  the  year  1947  I  met  Chalmers  "Slick"  Goodlin,  who 
was  introduced  to  me  as  a  client  of  the  William  Morris  Agency,  Inc.  At  this 
time  Mr.  Goodlin  advised  me  that  he  was  interested  in  securing  publication  of 
material  concerning  his  e.xploits  as  a  rocket  pilot.  He  also  told  me  of  interviews 
which  he  had  had  concerning  thij  in  the  past  with  a  number  of  magazines,  in- 
cluding Time,  Newsweek,  Life  Magazine,  and  the  American  Magazine,  and  he 
stated  tliat  other  national  magazines,  such  as  Collier's  Magazine  and  Look  Maga- 
zine appeared  interested  in  securing  articles.  I  told  him  that  I  thought  that  the 
market  for  such  magazine  stories  should  be  very  good,  and  I  assured  him  that 
my  associates  who  handle  magazine  matters  would  do  everything  they  could  to 
help  him. 

Since  this  meeting  I  have  only  met  Goodlin  on  no  more  than  one  or  two  other 
occasions  wlien  he  happened  to  be  in  the  office  to  discuss  his  business  affairs  with 
the  persons  in  the  office  who  were  handling  them.  In  these  conversations,  which 
were  very  brief,  I  merely  inquired  how  things  were  progressing  in  a  very  general 
way,  and  he  seemed  to  be  optimistic  concerning  the  possibility  of  publication.  He 
did  not  in  any  of  my  conversations  with  him  ever  give  me  any  written  material, 
nor  did  he  orally  discuss  in  any  detail  his  material  or  his  experiences  as  a  test 
pilot.  I  understand  that  Mr.  Goodlin  did  submit  to  my  associates  certain  written 
material  which  he  had  prepared  with  the  knowledge  of  the  Army  Air  Forces  and 
I5ell  Aircraft  Corporation,  and  that  this  material,  which  was  never  read  by  me 
and  which  was  not,  in  fact,  sold  through  me  or  the  William  Morris  Agency,  Inc., 
is  appearing  in  the  January  issue  of  Air  Trails  Magazine  and  in  a  condensed  ver- 
sion in  Reader's  Digest  for  that  month. 

I  am  attaching  herewith  a  newspaper  report  of  the  true  facts  as  related  by 
Goodlin  to  the  Los  Angeles  Herald  Express  on  October  22, 1947. 

I  categorically  deny  the  entire  story  reported  in  the  local  newspapers  as  the 
testimony  of  John  C.  Moffitt  before  the  House  Un-American  Activities  Committee 
ihat  I  obtained  or  attempted  to  obtain  from  Chalmers  "Slick"  Goodlin  secrets 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY  527 

concerning  the  supersonic  experimental  plane,  the  XS-1,  and  that  such  secrets 
were  communicated  by  me  to  Communist  Headquarters. 

The  statements  attributed  to  Mr.  Moffitt  are  entirely  and  completely  false. 

(s)     John  Weber. 
John  Weber. 

Sworn  and  subscribed  to  before  me,  Pearl  Leiba,  this  22nd  day  of  October  1947. 

(s)     Pearl  S.  Leiber, 
Pearl  Leiba, 
Notary  Public,  Los  Angeles,  State  of  California. 

My  Commission  expires  Aug.  21,  1951. 

[Clipping,  Express,  October  2.      (s)  John  Weber,      (s)  Pearl  S.  Leiba] 
Test  Pilot  Denies  Secret  Data  on  Stories  on  U.  S.  Plane 

Test  Pilot  Chalmers  "Slick"  Goodlin  emphatically  denied  today  that  the 
aviation  article  he  wrote  contained  any  secret  information  on  snpersonir-  bomb- 
ers and  declared  it  was  cleared  by  the  Army  Air  Force  in  Washington,  D.  C. 

Writer  John  Chai-les  Moffit  yesterday  told  the  House  Un-American  AlTairs 
Committee  that  Goodlin  emphatically  denied  today  an  article  which  revealed 
secrets  of  the  supersonic  Bell  XS-1  and  which  was  dispatched  by  a  literary 
agent,  uncensored,  to  Communist  Party  headquarters  in  New  York. 

sheer  nonsense,  charged 

"I  don't  know  where  this  man  Motfit  got  his  information,  but  he  certainly 
got  it  all  wrong,"  said  Goodlin  today  at  his  Rosmond,  Calif.,  home.  It's  the 
sheerest  kind  of  nonsense." 

Goodlin  also  denied  that  he  had  any  dealings  personally  with  Literary  Agent 
John  Weber,  head  of  the  literary  department  of  William  Morris  Theatrical 
Agency,  concerning  the  article. 

"I  brought  tlie  article,  which  had  been  approved  both  by  the  AAF  and  Bell 
Aircraft,  to  Weber's  office  last  June  and  gave  it  to  one  of  his  associates,"  he 
said.     "I  don't  even  know  that  Weber  ever  saw  it. 

"After  they  sent  the  article  to  their  New  York  ofHce  and  kept  it  for  three 
months,  I  finally  sold  it  m.vself.  It  will  appear  in  the  January  issue  of  Air 
Trails  magazine,  and  also  a  condensed  version  in  Reader's  Digest  for  that 
month. 

"I  certainly  would  welcome  an  FBI  investigation  of  the  whole  thing,"  he 
said. 

Goodlin  also  denied  Moffit's  statement  that  he  was  fired  by  Bell  Aircrp.ft  as 
a  result  of  the  article,  declaring  a  check  of  Bell  records  would  show  he  re- 
signed last  June. 

Weber  also  said  charges  that  he  sent  secrets  about  supersonic  aircraft  to 
Communist  headquarters  were  "malicious  slander." 

FILM   FIGURES  PROTEST 

Thirty-five  top  movie  personalities  also  protested  testimony  at  the  investi- 
gation in  full-page  trade  paper  advertisements. 

The  celebrities,  who  said  they  were  "Disgusted  and  outraged."  included 
Eddie  Cantor,  Norman  Corwin,  Henry  Fonda,  Ava  Gardner,  Paulette  Goddard, 
Benny  Goodman,  Van  Heflin,  Paul  Henreid,  Katharine  Hepburn,  Myrna  Loy, 
Dorothy  McGuire,  Gregory  Peck,  Cornel  Wilde,  Norman  Krasna,  Edward  G. 
Robinson,  Alexander  Knox,  and  Hume  Cronin. 

Exhibit  32.  Affidavit 

State  of  New  York, 

County  of  New  York,  ss: 

Helen  Strauss,  being  duly  sworn,  deposes  and  says: 

I  am  employed  by  William  Morris  Agency,  Inc.,  at  the  head  of  the  Literary 
Department  in  its  New  York  office.     I  have  been  so  engaged  for  a  period  of 


528  COMMUNISM  IN    MOTION   PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

approximately  four  years.     Prior  to  that  time,  I  was  associated  with  the  Storj 
DepartiiiPiit  of  Paramount  Pictures,  Inc.,  for  approximately  nine  .vears. 

My  first  associatidti  with  Clialnicrs  "Slirli"  Goodlin  was  tliron;;!!  his  manager, 
Frank  Xicliol.s,  and  tliat  was  in  approximately  March  1947.  Prior  to  that  time, 
I  had  been  informed  about  Mr.  Goodlin  by  our  California  office  throufjh  memo- 
randa that  I  received  and  telephone  and  teletype  messages  I  had  exchanged. 
I  had  learned  from  these  conversations  that  Mr.  Goodlin  was  a  test  pilot  for 
the  Bell  Aircraft  Corp.  and  he  was  preparing  to  pilot  a  rocket  plane  through 
the  supersonic  structures  and  that  he  was  a  most  distinctive  pilot  and,  there- 
fore, one  about  whom  the  public  would  be  anxious  to  learn  and  whose  articles 
or  stories  would  have  considerable  interest  to  the  public.  From  the  ixnnt  of 
view  of  capitalizing  on  the  reputation  of  Mr.  Goodlin  and  his  knowledge  and 
ability,  I  was  asked  to  endeavor  to  sell  articles  or  stories  written,  or  to  be 
written,  by  Mr.  Goodlin  or  others  in  association  or  collaboration  with  him. 

In  order  to  carry  this  ,out,  I  met  with  Mr.  Nichols,  and  he  gave  me  the  names 
of  the  various  magazines  tiiat  had  approached  him  or  Mr.  Goodlin  with  regard 
to  obtaining  articles  from  Mr.  Goodlin.  As  I  recall,  he  stated  that  these  maga- 
zines were  Collier's  and  Look.  There  may  have  been  some  others,  but  I  don't 
recall  their  names  at  this  time.  The  one  I  thought  most  desirable  for  Mr.  Goodlin 
was  Collier's  Magazine.  In  this  connection,  I  endeavored  to  bring  about  some 
association  between  Mr.  Goodlin  and  Collier's  Magazine.  Collier's  had  ap- 
proached Mr.  Goodlin  directly  through  Bell  Aircraft  Corp-  before  we  ever  entered 
into  the  situation.  I,  William  Morris  Agency,  and  our  California  agency  were 
acting  in  this  transaction  solely  in  the  capacity  of  agents  and  advisors  to  Mr. 
Goodlin,  for  which  we  would  receive  a  commission  of  10%  of  the  amount 
Mr.  Goodlin  earned  by  reason  of  the  services  we  were  to  render. 

I  communicated  with  the  Managing  Editor,  Joe  Alex  Morris,  with  whom  I  had 
many  transactions  in  my  capacity  as  agent  for  various  authors,  to  inquire  as 
to  the  interest  of  Collier's  in  an  article  or  story  from  Mr.  Goodlin.  He  in  turn 
communicated  with  Frederick  R.  Neely,  their  Aviation  Editor  in  Washington, 
who  in  turn  informed  me  that  he  had  been  in  touch  with  Walter  Bonney,  who 
was  in  charge  of  public  relations  for  Bell  Aircraft,  regarding  a  possibility  of 
supersonic  flight  by  Goodlin,  that  they  would  be  interested  in  publishing  an 
article  on  the  flight,  if  it  were  successful.  Actually,  they  were  not  interested  in 
Goodlin  and  had  originally  asked  for  an  exclusive  story  on  Woolems,  who  was 
Bell  Aircrait's  test  pilot  before  Goodlin  and  who  had  been  killed  in  a  plane 
crash  last  year. 

The  only  material  that  I  saw  pi-epared  by  Mr.  Goodlin  or  anyone  associated 
with  him  was  sent  to  me  by  our  California  office.  It  consisted  of  generalized 
statements  which  had  no  relationship  whatsoever  with  the  supersonic  flight.  I 
just  have  a  general  recollection  of  this  material,  but  I  am  positive  that  it  did 
not  contain  any  secret  information  or  any  confidential  information  or  any 
technical  information  of  any  kind.  I  submitted  this  to  Collier's  Magazine,  and 
Collier's  turned  it  down. 

The  only  other  contact  I  had  with  Mr.  Goodlin  or  his  manager,  Mr.  Nichols, 
came  in  the  form  of  a  telephone  conversation  between  ]\Ir.  Goodlin  and  my 
assistant,  Esther  Mrus,  which  was  relayed  to  me  by  Miss  Mrus,  and  that  was 
to  the  effect  that  Mr.  Goodlin  stated  that  he  had  been  successful  in  selling  this 
article  to  the  Air  Trails  Magazine.  I  am  informed  Miss  Mrus  advised  him 
that,  we  were  pleased  that  he  had  been  successful  in  selling  the  article  and 
wished  him  well.  No  conmiission  or  compensation  of  any  kind  was  ever  paid 
to  William  Morris  Agency  for  our  efforts  on  liis  behalf. 

We  do  not  act  for  anyone  at  the  present  time  in  the  file  of  aviation.  Further- 
more, we  do  not  have  any  information  of  any  kind  which  by  any  stretch  of  the 
imagination  would  be  deenuMl  to  be  confidential,  .secretive,  or  which  in  any  way 
involves  the  safety  or  welfare  of  the  United  States  Government. 

/S./    Helen  Stkauss. 

Sworn  to  before  me  this  25th  day  of  October  1947. 

/S./     Leon  Kellman, 
Leon  Keixman, 
Notarif  Public  New  York  City,  Reg.  No.  S37-K. 

Commission  expires  March  30,  1949. 


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Exhibit  33.  Subpena — Rupert  Hughes 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  REPRESENTATI^'Es  of  the   Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Rupert  Hughes,  4751  Los  Feliz  Blvd., 
Los  Angeles,  California  (residence),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 
Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of ■. — ,  then  and  there  to 

testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee;   and  he  is 
not  to  dejiart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Cfiairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  34.  New  Masses,  February  12,  1946,  pages  19-22 ;  article,  What  Shall 
We  Ask  of  Writers?  by  Albert  Maltz. 

Exhibit  35.  Daily  Worker,  February  12,  1946;  article  by  Mike  Gold,  Change 
the  AVorld,  condemning  Albert  Maltz  for  writing  article  designated  in  exhibit  34. 

Exhibit  36.  The  Worker,  April  7,  1946;  article,  Moving  Forward,  by  Albert 
Maltz. 

Exhibit  37.  Subpena — James  K.  McGuinness 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  RbjpresentxVtives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  coinmanded  to  summon  James  K.  McGuinness,  911  N.  Rexford 
Drive,  Beverly  Hills,  California  (residence)  ;  Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer  Studios, 
Culver  City,  California  (business),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 
Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of ,  then  and  there 

to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee ;  and  he  is 
not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnexl  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  38.  Telegram,  Sam  Wood  to  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
October  22,  1947. 


530  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Exhibit  39.  Subpena — Robert  Taylor 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authobfty  of  the  House  of  lUa^RESENTATivEs  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Robert  Taylor,  807  N.  Rodeo  Drive, 
Beverly  Hills,  Calilornia  (residence),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 
Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of ,  then  and  there 

to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Commitee ;  and  he  is 
not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  tliis  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parneix  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  40.  Subpena — Howard  Rushmore 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Stripling. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Howard  Rushmore  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  tlie  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  .7.  Parnell  Thomas  is  chairman,  in  their 
chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  22,  1947,  at  the  hour  of  forthwith, 
then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  (]'om- 
mittee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 
Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  22nd  day  of  October  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairina?i. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk.. 

Exhibit  41.  Subpena — Morrie  Ryskind 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32060,  Vol.  58,  Page  48G 

By  Authority  of  the  Hoxtse  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Morrie  Ryskind,  605  N.  Hillcrest  Ave- 
nue, Beverly  Hills,  California  (residence),  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un- 
American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  of  wliich  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their 

chaml>er  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwitli,  at  the  hour  of then  and 

there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  conuuitted  to  said  Committee;  and 
he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  531 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)   J.  Paknell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  42.     Letter:  Harold  J.  Salemson  to  Fred  Niblo,  October  31,  1946. 

Exhibit  43.  Subpena — Richard  Macaulay 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Richard  Macaulay,  Metro-Goldwyn- 
Mayer  Studios  (writer).  Culver  City,  California  (business)  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  tlie 

hour  of then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed 

to  said  Committee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)   J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 


Attest ; 


John  Andrews,  Clerk. 


Exhibit  44.  Letter:  Harold  J.  Salemson  to  Mr.  Richard  Macaulay,  March  9, 
1946. 

Exhibit  45.     Letter :  Dalton  Trumbo  to  Mr.  Richard  Macaulay,  March  22,  1946. 

Exhibit  46.  Variety,  October  14,  1946,  article  entitled,  'Who  Censors  What?'' 
by  Richard  Macaulay. 

Exhibit  47.  Subpena — Robert  Montgomery 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 
To  :  H.  A.  Smith. 

You  are  hereby  comnmnded  to  summon  Robert  Montgomery  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  Ht)use  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23,  1947,  at  the 
hour  of  10 :  30  a.  m.  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  com- 
mitted to  said  Committee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  7th  day  of  October  1947. 

(Signed)   J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  48.  Subpena — George  Murphy 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket  No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the  United 

States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  George  Murphy,  911  N.  Bedford  Drive, 
Beverly  Hills,  California  (residence)  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 


532  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washinj^ton,  on  T'orthwith.  at  the  hour  of then  and  there 

to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Commitee;  and  lie  is 
not  to  (Icjiart  witliout  leave  of  said  Committee.  Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return 
of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September,  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Paenell  Thomas, 

Chair77ian. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  49.  Subpena — Ronald  Reiagan 

IMai-shal's  Civil  Docket  No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

Bt  Atjthoeity  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the  United 

States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Ronald  Reagan,  9137  Cordell  Drive, 
Beverly  Hills,  California  (residence)  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 
Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  .1.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jers(>y  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of then  and  there 

to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee ;  and  he 
is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 
Herein  fall  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 
Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September,  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  50.  Subpena — Gary  Cooper 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket  No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the  United 

States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark.  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Gary  Cooper,  11940  Chaperal  St.,  West 
Los  Angeles,  California  (residence)  ;  I'athe  Studios,  9836  W.  Washington  Blvd., 
Culver  City,  Calif.,  (business)  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Ac- 
tivities Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which 
the  Hon.  .1.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  .lersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the 

city  of  Wasliington,  on   Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of then  and  there  to 

testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  connnitted  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is 
not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  sunniions. 

Witne.ss  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September,  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  51.  Document  obtained  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
from  the  United  States  Deiiartment  of  State  concerning  pamphlets  distributed 
by  the  Connnunist  I'arty  in  Italy  during  May  1947. 

Exhibit  52.  Document  obtained  by  the  Conunittee  on  Un-American  Activities 
by  the  United  States  Department  of  State  concerning  literature  distributed  by 
the  Communist  Party  in  Yugoslavia,  July  19,  1947. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  533 

Exhibit  53.  SiTbpena — Leo  McCabey 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of    the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Thomas  Leo  McCarey,  Pathe  Studios, 
9336  W.  Washington,  Culver  City,  California  (business)  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman, 

in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of 

then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Com- 
mittee; and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  54.  Sukpe^na — Lela  E.  Rogers 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of    the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Lela  E.  Rogers,  5930  Franklin  Ave., 
Hollywood,  California  (residence)  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American 
Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of 
which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber 

in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Forthwith,  at  the  hour  of then  and  there 

to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is 
not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Parnehlx,  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  55.  Peoples'  Educational  Center,  Los  Angeles,  Calif.,  1947  Winter 
Catalog. 

Exhibit  56.  Peoples'  Educational  Center,  Los  Angeles,  California,  1945  Winter 
Catalog. 

Exhibit  57.  Subpena — Oliver  Carlson 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of    the  Congress  of  thb 
United  States  of  Ame2Jica 

To:  H.  a.  Smith. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Oliver  Carlson  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Repre.sentatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman, 
in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  Wednesday,  October  22nd,  1947, 


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at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  a.  m.  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry 
committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  tlie  city  of  Washington,  this  10th  day  of  October  1947. 

(Signed)  J.  Pabneix  Thomas, 

Chairnuin. 
Attesc : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  58.  Note:  Correction 

Cable  address — Disney. 
Walt  Disney  Productions, 
2400  West  Alameda  Ave.,  Burbank,  Calif.,  November  3, 1947. 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 
House  of  Representatives, 

House  Office  Btiildituj,  Washington,  D.  C. 
(Attention:  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas.) 

Gentlemen  :  I  am  taking  the  liberty  of  referring  you  to  my  testimony  before 
your  committee  in  Washington,  D.  C,  on  October  24,  1947,  in  the  course  of  which 
and  in  answer  to  a  question  by  your  chairman,  I  stated  substantially  that  when 
Mr.  Sorrell  "Pulled  the  strilve,"  the  first  people  to  smear  me  and  put  me  on  the 
unfair  list  were  certain  organizations  among  which  was  The  League  of  Women 
Voters. 

Since  returning  to  my  office  in  Burbank,  Calif.,  I  have  had  an  opportunity  to 
carefully  review  my  files  pertaining  to  this  subject  matter.  I  can  now  definitely 
state  tliat  while  testifying  as  above  I  was  confused  by  a  similarity  of  names 
between  two  women's  organizations.  I  regret  that  I  named  The  League  of 
Women  Voters  when  I  intended  to  name  the  League  of  Women  Shoppers. 

Therefore  I  trust  your  committee  will  find  it  consistent  to  make  requisite 
amendment  to  the  record  with  respect  to  my  testimony  so  as  to  erase  any  implica- 
tion that  The  League  of  Women  Voters  had  at  any  time  intervened  or  taken  any 
action  with  regard  to  the  matters  about  which  I  was  being  interrogated. 

For  the  information  of  the  committee  I  am  enclosing  herewith  photostatic 
copies  of  letters  received  from  various  units  of  the  League  of  Women  Shoppers 
which  are  self-explanatory. 
Respectfully  submitted, 

/s/    Walter   E.   Disney. 
Walter  E.  Disney. 
Ends. 

No  agreement  will  be  binding  on  this  corporation  unless  in  writing  and  signed 
by  an  officer. 

Exhibit  .^8a 

HoLLY^vooD  League  of  Women  Shoppers 
4415  Placidia  Ave.,  North  Hollywood,  Calif. 


Officers 

Chelene    Eckerson,    president 
Dorothy  Tree,  vice  president 
Tatiana  Tiittle,  treasurer 
Dixie  Newton,  assistant 

treasurer 
Sylvia  Blankfort,  secretary 
Natalie    Commons,    executive 

secretary 
Mildred   Traube,   second   vice 

president 

Directors 

Molly  Adlor 
Laurie  Hliuikfort 
Elizabetli  I'.inbaiik 
Evelyn  Caiiell 
Illiea  Chodorov 
I'egsy  Dunne 
Sue  Edmond 
Elizabeth  Paragon 


Directors 

Josephine  Kahn 
.Tudith  Kan(l(>l 
Dorothy  Peterson 
Madelene  Kutlnon 
Dorothy  Wilson 

Sponsors 

Mrs.  E.  P.  Ryland 
Mrs.  Floyd  J.  Seaman 
Mrs.  Frank  Scully 
Viola  Brotliers  Shore 
Marion  Spitzer 
Dr.  Louise  M.  Snvder 
Ruby  D.  Campbell 
Mrs.  Floyd  Covington 
Mrs.  Oliver  Carlson 
Mrs.  Ernest  Dawson 
Mrs.  George  Day 
Frances  Farmer 
Mrs.  Lowell  C.  Frost 


Sponsors 

Mrs.  Ira  Gershwin 

Lucille  Gleason 

Mrs.  A.  Heist 

Ionian  Hellman 

.Mrs.  William  .lacobson 

^Irs.  Boris  Karloff 

Dr.  Nadina  Kavinoky 

Mrs.  Abraham  liehr 

Mrs.  Norman  Kilbourne 

Mrs.  E.  J.  liUnenschloss 

Eleanore  Wilson  McAdoo 

Mrs.  Kenneth  McGowan 

Arline  MacMahon 

jNIrs.  Jyconard  Oechsli 

Mrs.  Jolin  C.  Packard 

Dorothy  Parker 

Luiso  Kainer 

Elizabeth  Kisdon 

Sylvia  Sidney 

Gloria  Stuart 

Mrs.  George  A.  Warmer,  Jr. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 


535 


June  17,  1941. 
Mr.  Walt  Disney, 

Bitrbank,  Calif. 
Dear  Mr.  Disney  :  The  National  League  of  Women  Shoppers  having  its  oflBces 
in  New  York  and  having  branches  all  over  the  United  States  have  sent  us  a 
wire  asking  that  a  full  report  on  the  strike  of  the  Screen  Cartoonists  Guild  in 
your  studio  be  sent  them  as  soon  as  possible. 

The  League  of  Women  Shoppers  is  a  consumers'  organization  founded  on  the 
principles  that  working  conditions  are  important  considerations  in  the  purchase 
of  goods.  Our  large  and  active  membership  will  not  patronize  those  establish- 
ments where  labor  is  unfairly  treated. 

When  a  situation  like  this  arises,  it  is  our  policy  to  make  a  thorough  investi- 
gation of  it,  and  we  would  therefore  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  talk  with  you. 
We  are  anxious  to  obtain  your  reaction  to  the  situation  before  consulting 
the  union. 

May  we  have  an  appointment  on  Friday,  June  20th,  11 :  30  A.  M.     We  shall 
telephone  Thursday  afternoon  to  confirm  this  appointment. 
Sincerely, 

/Signed/     Sylvia  Blankfort, 
Sylvia  Blankfort, 
Secretary,  Hollytcood  League  of  Women  Shoppers. 


Exhibit  58b 

Hollywood  League  of  Women  Shoppers 
4415  Placidia  Avenue,  Hollywood 


Granite  0948 


Officers 

Chelene  Eckerson,  president 
Dorothy  Tree,  vice  president 
Tatina  Tuttle,  treasurer 
Dixie  Newton,  assistant 

treasurer 
Sylvia   Blankfort,   secretary 
Natalie  Commons,  executive 

secretary 
Mildred  Traube,  second  vice 

president 

Directors 

Molly  Adler 
Laurie  Blankfort 
Elizabeth  Burbank 
Evelyn  Capell 
Rhea  Chodorov 
Peggy  Dunne 
Sue  Edmond 
Elizabeth  Faragon 


Directors 

Josephine  Kahn 
Judith  Kadel 
Dorothy  Peterson 
Madelene  Ruthven 
Dorothy  Wilson 

Sponsors 

Ruby  D.  Campbell 
Mrs.  Floyd  Covington 
Mrs.  Oliver  Carlson 
Mrs.  Ernest  Dawson 
Mrs.  George  Day 
Frances  Farmer 
Mrs.  Lowell  C.  Frost 
Mrs.  Ira  Gershwin 
Lucille  Gleason 
Mrs.  A.  Heist 
Lillian  Hellman 
Mrs.  William  Jacobson 
Mrs.  Boris  Karloff 


July  3,  1941. 

Sponsors 

Dr.  Nadiua  Kavinoky 

Mrs.  Norman  Kilbourne 

Mrs.  Abraham  Lehr 

Mrs.  E.  J.  Lunenschloss 

Eleanor  Wilson  McAdoo 

]\Irs.  Kenneth  McGowan 

Arline  MacMahou 

Mrs.  Leonard  Oechsli 

Mrs.  John  C.  Packard 

Dorothy  Parker 

Luise  Rainer 

Elizabeth  Risdon 

Mrs.  E.  P.  Ryland 

Mrs.  Floyd  J.  Seaman 

Mrs.  Frank  Scully 

Viola  Brothers  Shore 

Sylvia  Sidney 

Marion  Spitzer 

Dr.  Louise  M.  Snyder 

Gloria  Stuart 

Mrs.  George  A.  Warmer,  Jr. 


Mr.  Walt  Disney. 

Burbank,  California. 

Dear  Mr.  Disney:  On  June  30th,  the  Board  of  the  Hollywood  League  of 
Women  Shoppers  was  presented  with  the  facts  of  the  strike  as  given  to  the 
Investigation  Committee,  by  yourself,  the  Screen  Cartoonists  Guild,  and  the 
Strikers. 

Since  the  policy  of  the  League  of  Women  Shoppers  is  to  uphold  the  State  and 
Federal  Laws,  the  Board,  after  careful  consideration  of  the  facts,  resolved  that 
the  strikers  are  justified.  According  to  the  Federal  Law,  they  are  acting  within 
their  rights  to  join  a  union,  bargain  collectively,  and  go  on  strike  for  a  living 
wage  and  security  in  -their  jobs.  Union  discrimination  has  also  been  practiced, 
by  your  admitted  firing  of  an  artist  for  union  activities. 

We  have  seen  the  three-year  contracts  your  artists  must  sign  when  hired. 
We  were  appalled  to  learn  the  penalties,  which  you  evaded  divulging  to  our  com- 
mittee, if  the  artists  violated  the  contracts. 

The  National  League  of  Women  Shoppers  has  received  a  complete  report  of 
our  investigation  exactly  as  told  to  us  and  they  will  advise  you  of  their  decision. 
We  are  informing  our  membership  of  our  findings  and  actions  and  until  condi- 


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tions  are  amicably  settled  our  members  will  not  patronize  those  theatres  where 
The  Rc'hictant  Dragon,  Fantasia,  and  oth(M-  Disney  pictures  are  shown.  When 
the  strike  is  settled  our  nu'Uibership  will  be  advised  to  resume  tlieir  patronage. 
We  sincerely  hope  that  fur  the  good  and  weli'ai-e  of  your  business  and  the 
security  and  well-beiuK  of  your  employees,  whether  in  your  studio  or  on  the 
picket  line,  these  differences  will  be  speedily  solved. 
Very  truly  yours, 

(Signed)     Sylvia    Blankfort,    Secretary. 
Sylvia  Blankfort,  Secretary. 

Exhibit  58c 


The  League  of  Women  Shoppers,  Inc. 

National  Headquarters,  273  Fifth  Avenue,  New  York,  N.  Y. 

Tel.  Caledonia  5-9395,  Cable  Address,  Shopleaguenewyork 

July  7,  1941. 


Officers 

Honorary  president : 

Aline  Davis  Hays 
President : 

Sophia  Ames  Boyer 
Vice  presidents  : 

Mrs.  Sherwood  Anderson 

Nina  1*.  Collier 

Fannie  Cook 

Marion  Hathway 

Lillian  Hellman 


Officers 

Secretary  : 

Iris  Winsor 
Treasurer : 

Freda  Sternberg 

Sponsors 

Mary  C.  Barker 

Mrs.  William  O.  Douglas 

Dorothy  Canfield  Fisher 

Branch  Leagues 


Sponsors 

Lucile  Webster  Gleason 
Inez  Hays  Irwin 
Freda  Kirchwey 
Dorothy  Parker 
Cornelia  Bryce  Pinchot 
Mrs.  Carl  Sandburg 
Gale  Sondergaard 
Mrs.  Stephen  S.  Wise 
Mary  E.  Woolley 


Boston,  Massachusetts  :  Mrs.  J.  P.  Hocker, 
304  Bexley  Hall,  52  Massachusetts  Ave- 
nut\  Camtiri(l'.re 

Chicago,  Illinois :  Room  710,  203  North 
Waliash  Avenue 

Columbus,  Ohio :  Care  of  Frances  Dunn, 
2046  West  Fifth  Avenue 

Denver,  Colorado  :  Box  82,  Capitol  Hill 
Station 

Hollywood,  California :  6912  Sunset  Boule- 
vard 

Nashville,  Tenn.  :  Care  of  Mrs.  Susie  Clark 
Prince,  Room  640,  Doctors  Building 


New  .Tcrs(>y  :  207  Market  Street,  Newark 

New  Yiirk  :  271!  Fifth  Avenue 

I'hihidcl|ihia,  I'ennsvlvania  :  Care  of  Made- 
line Blitzstein,  322  South  16th  Street 

Pittsburgh,  Pennsylvania :  206  Stanwyx 
Street 

San  Francisco,  California :  Care  of  Rikee 
Elsesser,  1580  Masonic  Avenue 

St.  Louis,  Missouri :  Care  of  Mrs.  Elwood 
Douglass,  103  N.  Sappington  Road,  Kirk- 
wood 

Washington,  D.  C. :  1010  Vermont  Avenue 
NW. 


Mr.  Walt  Disney, 

Walt  Disney  Studio, 

Buena  Vista  and  Alemeda  Streets, 

Burbafik,  California. 

Dear  Mr.  Disney  :  In  response  to  the  many  inquiries  which  have  come  to  this 
office,  we  recently  asked  the  Hollywood  League  of  Women  Shoppers  to  investigate 
the  strike  now  taking  place  at  your  studio. 

The  League  of  Women  Shoppers  is  a  consumer.s'  organization  whose  thousands 
of  members  believe  in  using  their  buying  power  in  such  a  way  as  to  help  workers 
attain  decent  living  standards  and  working  conditions.  We  never,  in  a  labor 
dispute,  support  either  the  workers  or  the  manag»'nient  without  a  full  and  impar- 
tial investigation  by  one  of  our  League  investigating  committees.  For  this 
reason,  the  sub.sequent  decisions  of  our  Executive  Boards,  either  local  or  national, 
are  accepted  by  many  additional  thousands  of  fair-miiuled  consumers  throughout 
the  country  as  fair  and  just  from  the  point  of  view  of  the  well-being  of  American 
workers. 

The  National  Executive  Committee  of  The  League  of  Women  Shoppers  has 
carefully  considered  the  long  report  sent  it  by  the  Hollywood  League  of  Women 
Shoppers.  The  committee  then  voted  to  support  the  striking  employees  in  this 
instance,  for  the  following  reasons : 

1.  The  need  of  the  Disney  employees  for  a  bona  fide  union  is  evidenced  by  the 
onerous  terms  of  the  3-year  hiring  contract,  the  lack  of  job  security,  and  the  low 
general  wage  level,  the  long  hours,  and  speed-up. 

2.  On  the  other  hand,  you  have  seemed  unwilling  to  engage  in  genuine  collective 
bargaining  with  the  union  cho.seu  by  a  majority  of  your  artists,  and  by  speech 
and  action  have  shown  an  antiunion  bias  which  makes  a  fair  settlement  of  your 
employees'  grievances  quite  impossible. 


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537 


This  oflSce  is  sending  a  full  report  of  the  investigation  to  all  branch  Leagues, 
with  the  recommendation  that  they  notify  their  members  and  all  sympathetic 
organizations  of  the  facts  and  of  our  decision.  We  also  ask  that  all  local  theater 
managers  be  notified. 

We  would  like  to  urge  you  to  make  every  effort  to  bring  about  a  fair  settlement 
of  this  dispute  in  the  shortest  possible  time.     We  are  convinced  that  only  by  such 
an  effort  on  your  part  can  the  strike  be  brought  to  an  end  and  the  Disney  Studio 
considered  fair  to  its  employees. 
Sincerely  yours, 

Katharine  Armatage     (Signed). 
Katharine  Armatage,  Chairman  Board. 

Market  3-3642 

Exhibit  58d 
New  Jersey  League  of  Women  Shoppers 


Affiliated  with  the  League  of  Women  Shoppers,  Inc. 
207  Market  Street,  Newark,  N.  J. 


Mrs.  Harry  Furness 
Beatrice  Kaufman 
Nathlyn  Lamer 
Beatrice  Mintz 
Mar.y  Lorene  Read 
Frances  Semel 
Dr.  Virginia  Wuerthele 

Sponsors 

National : 

Mrs.  Sherwood  Anderson 

Mary  C.  Barker 

Mrs.  William  O.  Douglas 

Dorothy  Canfield  Fisher 

Lucile  Gleasou 

Inez  Hays  Irwin 

Freda  Kirchway 


Dorothy  Parker 
Mrs.  Gifford  Pinchot 
Mrs.  Carl  Sandburg 
Gale  Sdndcruaard 
"Mrs.  Stephen  S.  Wise 
Dr.  Mary  E.  Wooley 
Local : 

Mrs.  Henry  Barkhom 
Mrs.    Madison    C.    Bates 
Mrs.    Irene   Fuhlbruegge 
Miss    Annie    P.    Hughes 
Mrs.    Clara    Savage   Lit- 

tledale 
Mrs.    David    Loeser 
Mrs.    Amelia    B.    Moor- 

fleld 
Miss  Sadie  Reisch 
Mrs.  Harry  F.  Ward 


Officers 

President : 

Hannah  Sjnith 
Vice  Presidents  : 

Katharine  Armatage 

Ruth  Berthold 

Mrs.  Lewis  H.  Loeser 
Secretary  : 

Charlitte  Brady 
Treasurer  : 

Rose  Hirsch 

Executive  Board 

Mrs.  Laurence  Ackerman 

Louise  Bendersky 

Eleanor  Bolan 

Grace  Co  wen 

Mrs.  Philip  J.  Dodge 

Mrs.  Nathaniel  L.  Foster 

July  7,  1941. 
Mr.  Walt  Disney, 

Bnrbank,  California. 
My  Dear  Mr.  Disney  :  The  New  Jersey  League  of  Women  Shoppers,  a  local 
of  the  League  of  Women  Shoppers,  Inc.,  has  been  informed  of  the  labor  dispute 
at  your  studios. 

We  have  received  a  full  report  of  the  investigation  made  by  our  Hollywood 
League,  which  we  presented  to  our  membership,  and  after  careful  consideration 
we  accepted  the  findings  of  the  Hollywood  League  and  endorsed  the  strike. 

The  employees'  demand  for  union  recognition,  shorter  working  hours,  higher 
wages,  and  other  conditions  which,  in  our  opinion,  are  essential  for  the  mainte- 
nance of  a  decent  American  standard  of  living  is  a  just  cause  for  our  .support. 
It  is  our  usual  procedure  to  publicize  our  position  in  various  ways  which  we 
consider  elfective. 

We  urge  a  fair  and  quick  settlement  of  this  dispute  in  order  that  we  may  in- 
form our  membership  and  encourage  once  more  patronage  of  your  films. 
Sincerely  yours, 

(s)     Hannah  Smith,  President. 


State  3146 


Exhibit  58e 

The  League  of  Women  Shoppers  of  Chicago 

Affiliated  with  the  National  Lague  of  Women  Shoppers,  N'ew  York 

203  North  Wabash,  Room  710 

July  14,  1941. 
Managee,  The  Palace  Theater,  ' 

Chicago,  III. 
Dear  Sir:  The  National  League  of  Women  Shoppers  has  endorsed  the  strike 
of  the  Walt  Disney  artists  for  recognition  and  the  right  of  collective  bargaining. 


538  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

This  endorsement  is  a  result  of  the  Investigation  made  by  the  Hollywood  League. 
We  are,  therefore,  writing  to  yovi  to  advise  you  of  our  endorsement  and  to 
inform  you  that  our  nieml)orship  feels  tliey  will  have  to  wait  to  see  the  newest 
Disney  picture,  The  Reluctant  Dragon,  until  such  time  as  the  strike  is  settled, 
which  we  hope  will  be  very  soon. 

A  copy  of  this  letter  is  being  sent  to  the  Disney  Studios,  and  we  trust  that  you 
will  also  advise  them  directly  that  we  in  Chicago  would  like  to  see  this  matter 
adjusted  as  quickly  as  possible. 
Very  truly  yours, 

Thk  League  of  Women  Shoppers  of  Chicago, 
By ,  President. 

P]XHIBIT   59 

Cable  Address :  Disney 
Walt  Disney  Pboductions 

2400  West  Alameda  Ave.,  Burbank,  California 

November,  3,  1947. 
Ke :  Un-American  Prop.,  Vol.  5,  made  by  Washington  Reporting  Service. 

Committee  on  Un-Ameeican  Activities, 
House  of  Representatives, 

House  Office  Building,  Washington,  D.  C. 
(Attention :  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas) 
Gentlemen  :  I  refer  to  page  727  of  the  stenographic  transcript  of  the  hearings 
before  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  House  of  Representatives,  in 
the  above  matter. 

In  answer  to  a  question  by  Mr.  Smith  with  respect  to  one  Wm.  Pomerance, 
I  stated  in  effect  that  S'orrell  put  him  (Pomerance)  in  charge  as  business  man- 
ager of  the  Cartoonists,  and  later  "he  went  to  the  Screen  Actors  as  their  business 
agent." 

I  request  permission  to  correct  the  foregoing  answer  by  substituting  in  lieu 
of  "The  Screen  Actors"  the  name  of  another  organization,  "The  Screen  Writers 
Guild,  Inc." 

Since  returning  to  my  ofl5ces  in  Burbank,  California,  I  have  made  inquiry  and 
succeeded   in   refreshing  my   recollection    to   the   effect   that   Wm.    Pomerance, 
after  his  separation  from  the  Screen  Cartoonists  Guild  was  engaged  by  the  Screen 
Wi-iters  Guild. 
I  thank  you  in  advance  for  giving  this  matter  your  attention. 
Respectfully  submitted. 

(s)     Walter  E.  Disney. 
Walter  E.  Disney. 

No  Agreement  will  be  binding  on  this  corporation  unless  in  writing  and  signed 
by  an  oflScer. 

Exhibit  60 

Supbena — John  Howard  Lawson 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  Stati;s  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  John  Howard  Lawson  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is 
chaiiinan,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947,  at 
the  hour  of  10:30  A.  M.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry 
committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  witliout  leave  of  said 
Conunittee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  539 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  September  1947. 

(signed)     J.  Pabnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 
Exhibit  61.  Daily  Worker,  September  6,  1935,  page  5 ;  article  by  John  Howard 
Lawson. 

Exhibit  62.  Daily  Worker,  February  26,  1935,  page  5. 

Exhibit  63 

Copy  of  Communist  Paety  Registration  Card — John  Howard  Lawson 
No.  47275. 

Name :  John  Howard  Lawson.  1944  Card  No.  

Address :  4542  Coldwater  Canyon  Ave. 

City  :  L.  A.        County  :  L.  A.         State  :  Cal. 

Name  of  club : 

New  card  issued  on  :  12/10/44.  194 — 

fTo  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X     Female         White  X        Negro 

Occupation :  Writer. 

Industry :  Motion  Picture. 

Member  of :  CIO        AFL        Ind.  Union  X         No  Union         P.         W. 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker  ?     Yes  X         No 

209 

Exhibit  64.  Subpena — Eric  Johnston 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 
To :  Donald  T.  Appell. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Eric  Johnston,  President,  Motion  Picture 
Association  of  America,  1600  Eye  Street  NW.,  Washington,  D.  C,  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  of  the  Hou.se  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  is  chairman,  and  he  is 
to  bring  with  him  copies  of  all  resolutions  proposed  or  submitted  relating  to  the 
investigation  of  the  movie  industry  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
and  original  minutes  pertaining  to  all  meetings  held  by  the  Motion  Picture  Asso- 
ciation of  America  relating  to  such  resolutions  for  the  period  May  1  through 
September  10,  1947,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington  on  October  20, 
1947,  at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of 
inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of 
said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  fake  returns  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States  at  the  city  of  Washington  this  29th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas,  Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  65.  Telegram :  Walter  E.  Disney  to  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  October  24,  1947. 

Exhibit  66.  Hollywood  Reporter,  August  22,  1946  (photostatic  copy). 

Exhibit  67 

Copy  of  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Dalton  Trumbo 
47187. 

Name :  Dalt.  T.  1944  Card  No.  39300 

Address:  620  Beverly  Dr. 

City:  Bev.  H.         County:  L.  A.         State:  Calif. 
Name  of  Club : 
New  card  issued  on  :  Nov.  30.  1944 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 


540  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Male  X         Ft'inalo         White        Negro 

Occupation  :  Writer. 

Industry :  JNIotion  Picture. 

Member  of:  CIO         AFL         Iiul.  ITiiion  X         No  Union. 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  \\'orlver?     Yes  X         No 

209 

Exhibit  68.  Subpena — Daltox  Trumbo 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Dalton  Trumbo  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  th<'  Hon.  J.  rarncll  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman, 
in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington  on  Octisber  23rd,  1!)47,  at  the  hour 
of  10:  P>0  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  incjuiry  committed 
to  said  Committee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Represuetatives  of  the  United 
States  at  the  city  of  Washington  this  ISth  day  of  September  1947 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas,  Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  69.  Telegram :  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  Mr.  Dalton 
Trumbo,  October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  70.  Telegram  :  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  Mr.  Dalton 
Truiubo,  October  13,  1947. 

Exhibit  71 

Copy  of  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Albert  Maltz 

No.  47196.     Copy  of  Comnumist  Party  Card^— Albert  Maltz. 

Name :  Albert  M.  1944  Card  No.  40801 

Address  :  6526i  Linden  Hurst. 

City  :  L.  A.         County  :  L.  A.         State :  Calif. 

Name  of  Club : 

New  card  issued  on :  Nov.  3  1944 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X        Female        White        Negro 

Occupation  :  Writer. 

Industry :  M.  Picture. 

Member  of:  CIO         AFL         Ind.  Union         No  Union 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?     Yes  X         No 

209 

Exhibit  72.  Subpena — ^Albert  Maltz 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representati\'es  or  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  sununon  Albert  Maltz  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  .T.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman, 
in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947,  at  the  hour  of 
10 :  30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to 
said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  541 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the'city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Paknexl  Thomas, 
Attest :  Chairman. 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  73.  Sitbpena — Alvah  Bessie 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatbtes  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To  :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Alvah  Bessie,  369  South  Crescent  Drive, 
Beverley  Hills,  Calif.,  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Activities  Com- 
mittee of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J. 
Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Wash- 
ington, on  October  23,  1947,  at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify 
touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee  ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart 
without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  ciy  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parneix  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  74.  Telegram:  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  chairman,  to  Mr.  Alvah  Bessie, 
October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  75 

Copy  of  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Alvah  Bessie 

No.  47279. 

Name :  Alvah  Bessie.  1944  Card  No.  46836 

Address :  4653  Coldwater  Canyon  Ave. 
City  :  Hollywood.        County  :  L.  A.         State :  Cal. 
Name  of  Club : 
New  card  issued  on  :  12/10/44.  1944 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X        Female        White  X        Negro 

Occupation :  Writer. 

Industry :  Motion  Picture. 

Member  of :  CIO         AFL         Ind.  Union  X         No  Union         P.         W. 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?    Yes  X        No 

209 

Exhibit  76.   Letter 

International  Alliance  of  Theatrical  Stage  Employes  and  Mo^^N6  Picture 
Machine  Operators  of  the  United  States  and  Canada 

International  Building,  630  Fifth  Avenue,  New  York  20,  N.  Y. 

Affiliated  with  the  American  Federation  of  Labor 

Richard  F.  Walsh,  International  President. 

Thomas  ,T.  Shea,  Assistant  International  President. 

William  P.  Raoul,  General  Secretary-Treasurer. 

Harland  Holmden,  First  Vice  President,  760  Hippodrome  Bldg.,  Cleveland  15,  Ohio. 

William  P.  Covert,   Second  Vice  President,  63  McRae  Drive,   Leaside,  Torronto,  Ontario, 

Canada. 
Floyd  M.  Billingsley,  Third  Vice  President,  230  Jones  St.,  San  Francisco  1,  California. 

67683 — 47 35 


542  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

James  J.  Bronnan,  Fourth  Vice  President,  Ramsey,  New  Jersey. 

Roger  M.  Kennedy,  Fiftli  Vice  I'resident,  1000  Hofmann  Bldg.,  Detroit  1,  Michisan. 
Felix  "D.  Snow,   Sixth  Vice  President,  1017  Washington  St.,  Kansas  Citv  C,  Missouri. 
Carl  G.  Cooper,  Seventh  Vice  President,  130  North  Vista  St.,  Hollywood  36,  California. 
William  C.  Harrett,  Eighth  Vice  President,  Apt.  304,  1609  No.  Noimandie  Avenue,  Holly- 
wood 28,  California. 
Louise  Wright,  Ninth  Vice  President,  Apt.  3,  5012  Victor  St.,  Dallas  14,  Texas. 
Telephone  :  Gladstone  7187. 

HorxYwooD  Office, 
603(3  Hollywood  Blvd.,  Suite  217-218, 
HoHyu-ood  28,  Calif.,  November  3,  l^it. 
Hon.  J.  Parneh^l  Thom.\s, 

Chairman  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
Comimittee  on  Vn-Ameriean  Activities, 

House  Office  Building,  Washington,  D.  C. 

My  Dear  Chairman  Thomas  :  Following  thinush  upon  my  request  to  have  addi- 
tional evidence  introduced  into  the  recoi-d  of  the  recent  hearing  of  the  com- 
mittee into  the  penetration  of  Communist  activity  in  the  Hollywood  motion- 
picture  industry,  I  would  like  to  .submit  the  following  material  to  supplement 
my  testimony  given  before  the  committee : 

(1)  To  supplement  my  testimony  that  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  has  followed  the 
Communist  Party  line  since  1937,  with  one  minor  exception,  I  would  like  to 
submit  herewith  the  following: 

la.  An  Informational  Bulletin,  dated  November  13,  104"),  published  by  the 
lATSE,  which  outlines  in  detail  the  record  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  in  Communist 
front  activities  from  1938  to  1945. 

lb.  In  addition,  I  would  like  to  submit  a  report  of  the  California  State  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities,  dated  February  19.  1946.  This  report  also 
outlines  the  activities  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  and  in  addition  contains  the  testi- 
mony of  Clark  Sellers  and  John  Harris  concerning  the  documents  which  I  intro- 
duced in  evidence  at  the  committee  hearing.  Contained  also  in  this  document 
is  a  letter  by  the  Committee,  written  to  C.  Don  Field,  in  which  the  Committee 
sets  forth  as  follows : 

"The  secret  Communist  Party  affiliation  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  is  therefore 
established  beyonrl  a  shadow  of  a  reasonable  doubt  and  his  activities  explained 
in  light  of  current  Communist  Party  purposes  and  objectives.  There  is  no  doubt 
in  the  minds  of  tl.e  members  of  the  Joint  Fact-Finding  Committee  on  Un-Ameri- 
can Activities  that  Herbert  K.  Sorrell  is  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  and 
presently  an  important  stooge  and  tool  of  Communist  Party  design  for  the  de- 
struction of  American  Federation  of  Labor  unions  in  Hollywood  and  the  estab- 
lishment of  Communist  influence  and  domination  in  the  motion-picture  industry." 

Ic.  An  excerpt  from  the  Report  of  the  Congress  of  American-Soviet  Friend- 
ship, in  which  is  cited  a  report  from  Herb  Sorrell,  outlining  the  success  which 
his  Conference  had  had  in  carrying  on  educational  work  on  the  Soviet  Union 
in  Hollywood.  The  next  paragraph,  which  quotes  Louis  Weinstock,  should  also 
be  noted.  Mr.  Weinstock  is  a  member  of  the  National  Committee  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  of  America.  Mr.  Weinstock's  remarks  would  indicate  that  Mr. 
Sorrell  had  not  only  been  able  to  induce  groups  in  Holl.vwood  into  supporting 
the  Comnninist  Party  program,  but  had  been  instrumental  in  throwing  the  entire 
Painters  International  Union  behind  this  program. 

Id.  In  this  connection  I  would  also  like  to  submit  a  photostat  of  the  People's 
World,  dated  September  6,  1946,  which  indicates  the  part  which  Herbert  K. 
Sorrell  played  in  attempting  to  get  the  Paiiiteis  Iiiteniatioiial  Union  to  support 
the  World  Federation  of  Trade  Unions,  which  was  opposed  by  the  American 
Federation  of  Labor  because  it  was  dominated  by  Soviet  Russia.  In  this  clip- 
ping it  will  be  noted  that  Mr.  Sorrell  was  supported  by  Mr.  Courtney  Ward,  who 
was  ousted  by  President  William  Green,  President  of  the  American  Federation 
of  Labor,  from  the  Cleveland  Fedei'ation  of  Labor  because  of  his  pix)-communist 
activities. 

le.  Inserted  also  in  connection  with  Sorrell's  activities  are  excerpts  from  the 
Peoples  Daily  World  dated:  3/8/40,  4/19/40,  5/17/40.  11/2/44,  and  July  24,  1944. 

lee.  The  first  one  shows  Mr.  Sorrell  identified  with  known  communists  and 
their  efforts  to  organize  the  Workers  Alliance.  Emil  Freed  is  an  admitted  com- 
munist;  La  Rue  McCormick  is  an  admitted  communist;  and  Joe  Williams  is  an 
official  representative  of  the  Peoples  Daily  World. 

If.  The  .second  photostat  shows  the  association  of  Herbert  K.  Sorrell,  along 
with  other  prominent  pro-communists,  including  Dalton  Trumbo  and  Carey  Mc- 
Williams,  in  the  "Yanks  are  Not  Coming"  program,  a  program  designed  to  frus- 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION   PICTURE  INDUSTRY  543 

trate  the  activities  of  this  country  in  aiding  England  during  the  period  of  the 
Hitler-Stalin  pact. 

Ig.  The  third  photostat  substantiates  Mr.  Sorrell's  association  with  the 
Schneiderman  Defense  Committee. 

Ih.  The  fourth  photostat  shows  Mr.  Sorrell,  along  with  John  Howard  Lawson 
and  others,  as  sponsoring  La  Rue  McCormick,  communist  candidate  for  the 
office  of  State  Senator. 

li.  The  last  photostat  shows  Mr.  Sorrell  associated  with  Mr.  John  Howard 
Lawson  as  Hollywood  Representatives  supporting  the  People's  World. 

There  are  many  other  such  documents  which  could  be  produced.  These  are 
only  a  few  picked  at  random  to  support  the  material  printed  in  the  lATSE 
Bulletin. 

(2)  With  respect  to  the  second  point  on  which  I  want  to  submit  material,  i.  e., 
the  adherence  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  to  Communist  Party  programs, 
I  would  like  to  submit  the  following : 

2a.  A  dossier  of  the  activities  of  the  Conference  showing  support  of  various 
pro-communist  groups  from  August  12  to  July  12,  1944.  This  was  taken  from 
minutes  which  have  come  into  my  possession,  but  which  do  not  extend  beyond  1944. 

2b.  The  attached  pamphlet  entitled  "Manifesto  of  the  World  Labor  Conference," 
showing  Conference  support  of  the  World  Trade  Union  Conference,  which  pro- 
gram they  have  religiously  supported  since  its  inception,  despite  the  opposition 
of  the  American  Federation  of  Labor  and  of  the  International  unions  with  which 
the  local  unions  in  the  Conference  are  affiliated.  The  Conference  of  Studio  Unions 
also  supported  the  National  Service  Act  which  was  one  of  the  best  tests  of 
communist  domination  that  has  been  found.  Only  those  unions  in  America  which 
were  under  the  complete  domination  of  the  communists  supported  the  National 
Service  Act  in  1942  and  1943. 

2c.  Other  material  which  I  would  like  to  submit  in  this  connection  is  a 
clipping  from  the  Hollywood  Citizen  News  of  December  11,  1946.  This  was  a 
meeting  of  the  "Southern  California  Committee  to  Win  the  Peace."  The  Con- 
ference of  Studio  Unions  is  listed,  along  with  many  other  communist  and  pro- 
communist  oi'ganizations,  as  a  contributor  to  this  program. 

2d.  I  am  enclosing  transcript  of  a  radio  progam  broadcast  by  Sam  Baiter, 
who  was  sponsored  for  quite  some  time  by  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 
The  script  is  a  complete  text  of  his  address.  You  will  notice  the  subtility  with 
which  the  world  situation  is  discussed  by  Mr.  Baiter.  He  then  gives  equal  im- 
portance to  the  line  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  concerning  the  Hollywood 
Studio  strike,  following  up  with  a  discussion  of  the  United  Nations.  You  will  find 
Mr.  Baiter's  remarks  on  the  United  Nations  at  the  end  of  the  war  in  complete 
accord  with  Soviet  Russia.  This  is  only  one  script  of  many  used  by  Mr.  Baiter 
which  follows  the  party  line  religiously. 

(3)  I  am  also  enclosing  herewith  various  copies  of  the  CSU  News.  You  will 
find  in  these  a  great  deal  of  evidence  of  procommunist  activities : 

8a.  CSU  News,  Vol.  1,  No.  8,  dated  December  28,  1946,  on  page  3,  carries  a 
notice  urging  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  to  listen  to  Averill  Berman  and 
Peter  De  Lima.  Both  of  these  commentators  have  records  of  procommunist 
leanings  so  far  as  their  dissemination  of  the  news  is  concerned. 

3b.  On  page  4  of  Vol.  1,  No.  9,  you  will  find  an  advertisement  supporting  the 
Actors  Lab. 

3c.  Vol.  1,  No.  12,  page  4,  you  will  find  a  story  concerning  the  activities  of 
the  procommunist  French  unions  and  their  support  of  the  Conference  of  Studio 
Unions. 

3d.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  14,  you  will  find  speeches  by  Vincente  Lombardo  Toledano, 
well-known  Mexican  Communist,  in  support  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions. 

3e.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  15,  Feb.  15,  1947,  you  will  find  a  story  concerning  the  support 
of  Latin  American  Unions  arranged  by  Holedano,  advocating  boycotting  of 
American  pictures. 

3f.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  16,  page  3,  you  will  find  a  paragraph  urging  support  of 
Russian  pictures  as  compared  with  American  pictures.  You  will  also  find  an  ad 
on  page  2  of  the  same  issue. 

3g.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  17.  page  3.  you  will  find  the  pledge  of  Egyptian  unions  in 
boycotting  American  films. 

3h.  Vol.  1,  No.  19,  has  an  article  urging  that  the  workers  support  the  Peoples 
.  EdiTcational  Center,  which  has  been  branded  as  a  Communist  school. 

3i.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  22,  you  will  find  an  editorial  urging  an  investigation  of  the 
Hollywood  strike  situation  by  a  Congressional  committee,  although  these  same 
groups  are  screaming  against  the  investigation  of  communism  in  the  motion- 


544  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

picture  industry.     On  page  4  of  the  same  issue  is  another  item  urging  people 
to  listen  to  Averill  Bernian. 

3j.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  23,  page  2,  is  an  article  urging  support  of  the  Peoples  Educa- 
tional Center. 

3k.  In  Vol.  1,  No.  26,  there  is  ai?  item  remarking  about  support  from  the  Western 
Council  for  Progre.ssive  Business,  Labor,  and  Agriculture.  This  is  an  organiza- 
tion which  is  sponsoring  pro-Hussian  commentators. 

31.  Vol.  1,  No.  29,  shows  their  enthusiastic  support  of  the  PCA. 

3m.  Vol.  1,  No.  35,  shows  the  support  of  the  pro-communist  Mexican  Workers 
Union  in  favor  of  the  CSU. 

Other  information  indicating  communist  support  of  the  Conference  of  Studio 
Unions  was  the  fact  that  Paul  Robeson,  admitted  procommunist,  was  the  principal 
spealcer  at  their  meeting  on  March  16,  1947. 

In  the  Motion  Picture  Daily  of  the  17th  of  March  1947  was  an  item  stating  that 
Louis  Weinstock,  admitted  member  of  the  National  Executive  Council  of  the 
Communist  Party,  had  raised  $10,000  in  support  of  the  strike  of  the  Conference 
of  Studio  Unions. 

(4)  a-j.  Additional  evidence  to  support  the  charge  that  the  communists  were 
active  in  the  support  of  the  strike  is  contained  in  various  bulletins  published  by 
the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  between  the  dates  of  January  15,  1947,  and 
February  15,  1947.  In  these  bulletins  you  will  find  various  items  which  show 
their  association  with  foreign  and  procommunist  unions  in  an  effort  to  boycot 
American  pictures,  support  of  pro-Soviet  commentators,  support  of  the  Peoples 
Educational  Centei*,  and  support  of  various  other  communist  fronts. 

(5t  In  connection  with  the  evidence  that  the  strikes  were  supported  by  com- 
munists, I  submit  the  record  of  Emil  Freed,  5a,  admitted  communist,  who  was 
arrested  in  the  picket  line  supporting  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  and  sen- 
tenced to  one  year  in  jail  as  a  result  of  his  defiance  of  the  court  orders.  In  this 
connection  the  facts  that  the  American  Youth  for  Democracy  was  openly  used  as 
a  means  of  obtaining  mass  pickets  and  the  report  of  the  C.  Don  Field  Committee, 
5b,  which  specifically  investigated  and  found  evidence  of  communist  activity  in 
the  picket  lines  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  are  important. 

(6)  I  am  also  submitting  herewith  a  complete  file  of  the  reports  of  Jeff 
Kibre,  portions  of  which  I  read  into  the  record  and  which,  in  my  opinion, 
formed  the  most  important  evidence  we  have  of  the  communist  plot  to  take  over 
the  unions  in  the  motion  picture  industry. 

(7)  I  also  enclose  herewith  a  copy  of  the  Constitution  and  By-Laws  of  the 
lATSE,  and  I  call  your  particular  attention  to  the  special  laws  on  page  79, 
■which  were  passed  by  our  recent  Convention  because  of  the  threat  of  our 
existence  by  communist  infiltration  and  efforts  to  dominate  our  unions. 

(8)  I  also  enclose  herewith  for  the  Committee's  consideration  a  complete  file 
of  the  lATSE  Bulletins  put  out  during  the  1945  strike,  in  which  we  set  forth 
in  various  ways  the  association  of  Communists  in  the  strike  and  in  the  motion 
picture  industry. 

(9)  In  connection  with  the  actions  of  our  Local  683,  I  would  like  to  submit 
a  letter  which  I  sent  out  to  all  unions  of  the  lATSE  setting  forth  the  pro- 
communist leanings  of  the  officers  of  Local  683,  which  later  revolted  and  joined 
the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  in  its  effort  to  drive  the  lATSE  out  of  the 
Hollywood  labor  picture.  I  would  also  like  to  point  out  the  fact  that  the  former 
officers  of  Local  683  of  the  lATSE  were  instrumental  in  the  forming  and  the 
direction  of  the  Peoples  Educational  Center;  they  were  instrumental  in  form- 
ing and  directing  the  affairs  of  the  Conference  of  Studio  Unions  until  1944.  Our 
analysis  of  tlieir  activity  would  indicate  that  they  formed  the  Conference  and 
established  the  basis  for  an  attack  on  the  lATSE  by  the  Conference  of  Studio 
Unions,  but  then  withdrew  from  the  Conference  because  they  felt  they  could 
not  remain  in  the  Conference  when  the  fight  came  out  into  the  open.  However, 
at  a  critical  time  in  the  period  of  the  Conference  strike  against  the  lATSE, 
they  openly  revolted  and  joined  the  strike.  There  are  reams  of  evidence  to 
substantiate  that  the  officers  who  controlled  the  affairs  of  Local  683,  lATSE, 
between  1940  and  1947,  were  strict  adherents  to  communist  party  programs 
and  policy. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  545 

I  trust  this  will  be  of  value  to  the  Committee.  I  shall  be  glad  to  submit 
any  further  material  which  the  Committee  might  desire  to  substantiate  my 
testimony. 

Respectfully  yours, 

/s/     Rot  M.  Brewer, 
International  Representative. 

RMB :  LF 

I'.  S.  The  attached  excerpts  from  DAILY  VARIETY,  dated  March  12,  1945, 
and  April  2,  194.5,  show  the  so-called  "rank  and  tile  activity"  led  by  Irving 
Henscliel  in  the  1945  strilvc,  who  is  mentioned  in  the  Jeff  Kibre  Reports  as 
a  party  member  of  three  years  standing,  to  1938,  and  proves  conclusively  that 
the  rebellion  within  the  lATSE  in  support  of  the  studio  strike  was  fomented 
and  directed  by  communists  and  pro-communists. 

In  addition  to  the  other  material  which  I  have  outlined  above,  I  am  sending 
you  a  copy  of  a  series  of  the  "Hollywood  Closeup"  which  we  published  in 
1945  and  1946,  which  contain  a  series  of  open  letters.  These  open  letters  were 
directed  only  to  those  persons  who,  through  personal  activity  or  organizational 
activity,  had  injected  themselves  into  the  strike  on  the  side  of  the  Conference 
of  Studio  Unions.  You  will  find  some  interesting  questions  in  these  articles, 
all  of  which  have  gone  unanswered — not  One  single  one  of  these  open  letters 
were  answered  by  any  of  the  persons  to  whom  they  were  directed. 

Exhibit  77.     Sxjbpena — Samuei.  Ornitz 

Marshal's   Civil   Docket 

No.  320S0,  Vol.  58,  Page  488 

r>Y  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representattveb  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  op  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Samuel  Ornitz  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  .T.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  .Jersey,  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Wasliington,  on  October  23,  1947,  at  the 
hour  of  10:  30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  com- 
mitted to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return   of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  23d  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andeews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  78.  Telegram :  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  Samuel 
Ornitz,  October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  79.  Communist  Party  Registration  Card  of  Samuel  Oenitz 

No.  47181  1944  Card  No.  41826 

Name :  Sam  O. 

Address :  1044  S.  Redondo. 

City :  L.  A.        County :  L.  A.         State :  Cal.  ^ 

Name  of  Club : 

New  card  issued  on :  Dec.  2,  1944 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X  Female         White         Negro 

Occupation :  Writer. 

Industry :  M.  Picture. 

Member  of :  CIO         AFL         Ind.  Union         No  Union 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?    Yes  X         No 

209 


546  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE   INDUSTRY 

Exhibit  80.    Subpena — Herbejrt  Bibebman 

Marshal's   Civil   Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  488 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  liEPursENTATnTs  of  the  Congr!  ss  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Herbert  Biberman  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  tlie  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Wasliington,  on  October  2?>,  1947,  at  the 
hour  of  10:30  a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  com- 
mitted to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return   of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  .seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  City  of  Washington,   this  19th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     .J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  81.  Telegi'am :  The  Committee  oti  Un-American  Activities  to  Herbert 
Biberman,  October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  82.  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Herbert  Biberman 

No.  47267  1944  Card  No.  46844 

Name :  Herbert  Biberman. 

Address :  3257  Inonda  Dr. 

City  :  L.  A.         County  :  L.  A.         State  :  Cal. 

Name  of  club : 

New  card  issued  on :  12/10/44.  '  194 — 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X  Female        White        Negro 

Occupation :  Director. 

Industry:  Motion  Picture. 

Member  of :  CIO         AFL         Ind.  Union         No  union         P.         W. 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?    YesX         No 

209 

Exhibit  83.   Subpena — Emmet  Laveby 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  486 

By  Authority  or  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :   Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Emmet  Lavery  to  be  and  appear  before 
the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the 
United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman, 

in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Wa.shington,  on ,  at  the  hour  of , 

then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiiy  committed  to  said  Commit- 
tee; and  lie  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  547 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  25th  day  of  September  1947. 

(signed)     J.  Pabnbxl  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andbews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  84.    Subpena — Edward  Dmytryk 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Repeesentatives  of  the  Congress  op  the 
United  States  of  America 

To:  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Edward  Dmytryk  to  be  and  appear 
before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947,  at 
the  hour  of  10 :  30  A.  M.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry 
committeed  to  said  Committee ;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said 
Committee. 
Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  September  1947. 

(signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas. 

Chairmcm. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  85.  Telegram :   The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  Edward 
Dmytryk,  October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  86.     Subpena — Adrian  Scott 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congress  of  the 
United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Robert  Adrian  Scott,  generally  known 
as  Adrian  Scott,  to  be  and  appear  before  the  Un-American  Activities  Committee 
of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  3". 
Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jersey,  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of 
Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947.  at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  A.  M.,  then  and  there 
to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee ;  and  he 
is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Commitee. 
Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  Sepember  1947. 

(signed)     J.  Pabneix  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 


548  COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY 

Exhibit  87.  Telegram :  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  to  Adrian  Scott, 
October  11,  1947. 

Exhibit  88.  Letter :  Dore  Schary,  on  letterhead  of  Vanguard  Films,  to  Emmet 
Lavery,  April  17,  1945. 

Exhibit  89.    Subpena — Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  488 

By  Authqritt  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Conqress  of  the  United 

States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Ring  Lardner,  Jr.,  to  be  and  appear 
before  tiie  Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives 
of  the  United  States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas,  of  New  Jei-^ey,  is 
chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd.  1947, 
at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  A.  M.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry 
committed  to  said  Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Com- 
mittee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  19th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnell  Thomas, 

Chairman. 

Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  90.  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Ring  Lardner,  Jr. 

No.  47180  1944  Card  No.  46808 

Name :  Ring  L. 

Address :  447  Loring. 

City  :  L.  A.     County :  L.  A.         State :  Calif. 

Name  of  Club : 

New  card  issued  on  :  Nov.  30.  1944 

(To  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 

Male  X        Female        White        Negro 

Occupation :  Writer. 

Industry :  M.  Picture. 

Member  of:  CIO         AFL         Ind.  Union  X         No  Union, 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Daily  Worker?    Yes  X        No. 

209 

Exhibit  91.    Subpena — Lester  Cole 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 
No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

Bt  Authority  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  Congeess  of  the  Unites) 

States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Lester  Cole  to  be  and  appear  before  the 
Un-American  Activities  Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  of  which  the  Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their 
chamber  in  the  city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947,  at  the  hour  of  10:30 
a.  m.,  then  and  there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said 
Committee;  and  he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 


COMMUNISM  IN   MOTION  PICTURE  INDUSTRY  549 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18th  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  PAENia^L  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  92.  Communist  Party  Registration  Card — Lester  Cole 

No.  47226  '  1944  Card  No.  — 

Name:  Lester  Cole. 

Address:  ? 

City :  L.  A.        County :  L.  A.        State :  Calif. 

Name  of  club : 

New  card  issued  on:  Dec.  16.  1944 

(to  be  filled  in  by  person  exchanging  card) 
Male  X        Female        White  X        Negro 
Occupation:  Writer. 
Industry:  Motion  Picture. 

Member  of :  CIO        AFL        Ind.  Union  X  No  Union 

Is  member  club  subscriber  for  Su.  Worker?    Yes  X  No 

209 

Exhibit  93.    Subpena — Bertold  Brecht 

Marshal's  Civil  Docket 

No.  32080,  Vol.  58,  Page  421 

By    AtlTHOEITY    OF    THE    HOUSE    OF    REPRESENTATIVES    OF    THE    CONGRESS    OF    THE 

United  States  of  America 

To :  Robert  E.  Clark,  United  States  Marshal. 

You  are  hereby  commanded  to  summon  Bertold  Eugen  Friedrich  Brecht,  gen- 
erally known  as  Bert  Brecht,  to  be  and  appear  befoi-e  the  Un-American  Activities 
Committee  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States,  of  which  the 
Hon.  J.  Parnell  Thomas  of  New  Jersey  is  chairman,  in  their  chamber  in  the 
city  of  Washington,  on  October  23rd,  1947,  at  the  hour  of  10 :  30  a.  m.,  then  and 
there  to  testify  touching  matters  of  inquiry  committed  to  said  Committee ;  and 
he  is  not  to  depart  without  leave  of  said  Committee. 

Herein  fail  not,  and  make  return  of  this  summons. 

Witness  my  hand  and  the  seal  of  the  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United 
States,  at  the  city  of  Washington,  this  18tli  day  of  September  1947. 

(Signed)     J.  Parnetll  Thomas, 

Chairman. 
Attest : 

John  Andrews,  Clerk. 

Exhibit  94.  Ost  Und  West,  July  1946,  Magazine  printed  in  Germany,  containing 
part  of  the  play.  Private  Life  of  the  Master  Race,  by  Bert  Brecht. 

Exhibit  95.  International  Literature  No.  5,  1937,  article  by  Sergei  Tretyakov 
on  an  interview  with  Bert  Brecht. 

Exhibit  96.     Bulletin  No.  2,  International  Theatre,  1934,  pp.  1,  3,  4,  5,  and  7. 

Exhibit  97.     International  Theatre,  October  1934,  p.  3. 

Exhibit  98.     International  Theatre,  No.  3-4,  1934,  p.  56. 

Exhibit  99.  New  Theater,  November  1934,  p.  11,  article  entitled  "Straight 
From  the  Shoulder,"  by  John  Howard  Lawson. 

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