*Administration of Donald J. Trump, 2017 *

**Remarks at a Meeting With Small-Business Owners **

*January 30, 2017 *

*The President.* Who's back here? My friends, my geniuses. [*Laughter*] This one just paid—for the press—hundreds of millions of dollars in tax to get paid, like, $100,000 a year or something, which he gave up too. Right?

President of Goldman Sachs paid close to $200 million in tax, and he didn't do that to make $200,000, which he, by the way, gave up. Did you give the money up? I shouldn't ask you that. That's terrible. [*Laughter*]

*National Economic Council Director Gary D. Cohn.* Oh, yes.

*The President. *Anyway, that's a great.

*Director Cohn.* Yes, I gave up my salary. [*Laughter*]

*Participant.* Thank you.

*The President.* He's a brilliant guy, and we appreciate it. We appreciate what you've done.

*Director Cohn.* Thank you.

*The President.* Gary Cohn, president of Goldman Sachs, formerly. That was a big check he had to write. [*Laughter*] Sit down, please. Stinks to have to write a check like that, right? Right, Chris? [*Laughter*]

Well, I want to thank you all very much. Linda McMahon, as you know, is the director. She's a fantastic woman, and—fantastic woman. And we're waiting for her approval; we're waiting for many approvals from the Senate. The Democrats are acting deliberately slow. They're not behaving well at all. And that's why over the last many years nothing got done in this country. But we're moving things along, and we're moving them along fast.

We actually had a very good day yesterday in terms of homeland security. And someday, we had to make the move, and we decided to make the move. It would be nice again if we could have our Cabinet, because our Cabinet, which is outstanding, is going through a lot in terms of what they're being put through in the Senate. Jeff Sessions, they made him wait an extra week, and they did that only for political reasons. It was only for—they just made him wait—I'd say, why did they do that? Just politics.

I noticed Chuck Schumer yesterday with fake tears. I'm going to ask him, who is his acting coach? [*Laughter*] Because I know him very well. I don't see him as a crier. If he is, he's a different man. There's about a 5 percent chance that it was real, but I think they were fake tears.

We have a big decision and—that I have made, a very big decision on the United States Supreme Court that is going to be announced tomorrow night from the White House at 8 o'clock, a person who is unbelievably highly respected. And I think you will be very impressed with this person. So that will be 8 o'clock tomorrow night at the White House—from the White House. And today we have with us people who are very successful in the world of small business. And I love small business. I started as a small business. My business got big. And I've dealt with the small businesses and the big businesses, and I love you all the same.

The big business folks have been fantastic. They're bringing jobs back. I say, where was the outrage of the Democrats when all of our companies were fleeing to Mexico and to other places far away and leaving jobs behind? Now they're all coming back. They're coming back by big numbers, bigger numbers than people have seen.

You saw Ford is announcing and has announced big plants coming back into Michigan and Ohio and different places. General Motors has made big announcements. Fiat Chrysler, the head, Sergio, flew all the way from Italy just to make our meeting last week. You look at what's happening with Lockheed; number one, we're cutting the price of their planes by a lot, but they're also expanding, and that's going to be a good thing. Ultimately, they're going to cut—they're going to be better off. Boeing also is very much involved in new hirings and also coming in with good pricing.

So we're cutting pricing; we all know about that. The people at this table know about that. You could have done that. But we cut approximately $600 million off the F–35 fighter, and that only amounts to 90 planes out of close to 3,000 planes. And when you think about $600 million that was announced by Marilynn, who's very talented—the head of Lockheed Martin—I got involved in that about a month ago. A lot was put out. And when they say "a lot," a lot meant about 90 planes. They were having a lot of difficulty. There was no movement. And I was able to get $600 million, approximately, off those planes. So I think that was a great achievement. But that really means much more than that if you think about the fact that that's 90 planes out of close to 3,000 planes that are being ordered.

So I appreciate Lockheed Martin for being so responsive. And that will be appreciated very much. I appreciate Boeing for coming in and competing, and now they'll be competing during the process for the rest of the planes, because there are thousands of more planes coming. We have a lot of planes coming. These are contracts that everybody knows about. The F–35 fighter jet, a great plane, by the way, I have to tell you. And Lockheed is doing a very good job as of now. There were great delays, about 7 years of delays, tremendous cost overruns. We've ended all of that. And we've got that program really, really now in good shape, so I'm very proud of that.

I actually started working on that before, when I was President-elect. And the reason I was working on it—and you folks would understand it—because we love doing that stuff, right? [*Laughter*]

*Capitol Radiology Owner Larry N. McKenney.* Absolutely.

*The President.* Somebody said, why don't you take a vacation before you become President? I said, because I like doing this.

But we're saving—we will be saving billions and billions and billions of dollars on contracts.

As you know, we approved the pipelines, but as I'm sitting there and looking at the approval, I said where is this pipe made? These are massive pipes, bigger than this room. And a lot of it is made in other countries, including China. And I said, you mean you can make pipe in China and other places far away, ship it to the United States on massive boats, put it on trucks, and deliver it to the middle of the country, and we can't make it cheaper? Right. *Mr. McKenney.* It makes no sense.

*The President.* I'm saying, what are we talking about here? So—and these are big pipes. Now, the only way I can imagine they do that is, they must have to cut them because they're so big. I can't imagine—they take up so much room, I can't imagine you could put that much pipe on ships. It's too—it's not enough; it's not long enough. So I assume they have to fabricate and cut, which hurts the pipe, by the way.

So I said to myself: If they're going to do the pipe in the United States, using the powers of the United States, including eminent domain—for those that used to criticize me about, "oh, eminent domain." I said, did you every ride on a highway before? They used eminent domain. But if you remember, especially during the primaries, I was criticized about the use of eminent domain. Well, they need eminent domain to do pipelines. But if we're going to use our powers of eminent domain and all the other powers, then I want the pipe to be manufactured with United States steel. That doesn't mean the company United States Steel, it means steel from the United States. United States Steel will be, absolutely, a bidder. And I also want it to be fabricated in the United States.

So if we're doing these massive pipelines, I want workers in the United States to fabricate the pipe. And that, sort of, makes sense. Don't you think so as small-business owners? And so we're doing a lot of things, a lot of really great things. And we're very proud of it.

The small business is a big part of American economic success, although lately, there hasn't been too much success, because we're having our products made everywhere in the world so much. But we're bringing that all back. It's coming back. It's coming back fast. You see the difference already, right?

*JWA Construction Management President Joy A. Weatherup-Anthis.* Absolutely.

*The President.* More than 28 million small businesses in the country—28 million. Small business equals fewer than 500 employees. That's what's considered a small business. Anybody have over 500 employees here? If you do, we're getting you the hell out here. [*Laughter*] Fifty-six million small business employees. Think of it, 56 million. Small business is really our biggest business. We employ 48 percent of private workforce. The private workforce, a big percentage is employed by small business.

So we read about General Motors and Ford and Boeing and Lockheed and all of these great companies, but a big percentage of them are small business. We want to make life easier for these small-business owners. That's what we're here for today.

Last week, we had the big businesses. And this week coming we have the really, really big businesses set up by Steve Schwarzman, great Wall Street person, a man who's done a great job. We have some of the—we have the greatest businesses, they're set up, and that's happening very soon. But the small business, we are going to simplify—reduce, eliminate regulations. We're doing that for big business, too, by the way. There can't be any discrimination, right? But big businesses are thrilled what's happening. The stock market has gone up massively since the election. Everyone is saying, "Oh, the market will go down." I said, the market is not going down. The smart people know me. The businesspeople know me. They know what I'm about. So the market went massively up. In fact, when I was elected, a lot of the really smart people went out and bought a lot of stock. And they've been rewarded.

We want to simplify and lower taxes, unless you'd rather have high taxes, right? [*Laughter*]

*Ms. Weatherup-Anthis.* No, thanks. *The President.* So small-business owners can spend more time and money finding and responding to customers and expanding markets. They have more money and more opportunities to hire more employees. So, essentially, we're getting rid of regulations to a massive extent. Could be as much as 75 percent, could be even slightly more than that. We're going to have great protection for the consumer. We have to. But we don't need 97 different rules to take care of one element. Their individual economic success will support American success.

We want to end the unfairness between small and big business caused by regulation. Regulation has actually been horrible for big business, but it's been worse for small business. Plus, small business can't hire the kind of talent that the big businesses can hire, so it's really very unfair. Big business so often can afford compliance with the costly new regulations, but I don't want them to. I want them to build new plants and sell more cars. We're going to be doing tremendous favors. If you saw the head of Ford and the head of General Motors leaving here last week, they couldn't believe—one of them said, one of the greatest meetings we've ever attended.

The unions were here last week—the workers—representing workers, whether it's union or not. They said it was the single greatest meeting they've ever had. That was a nice statement. I didn't tell them to say that, but it was a nice statement. [*Laughter*] But I understand what they mean.

It's unfair to small business. Small business has been treated very, very badly. As you people know better than anybody, it's almost impossible now to start a small business, and it's virtually impossible to expand your existing business because of regulations——

*Ms. Weatherup-Anthis.* That's right.

*The President.* ——and because if the banks don't loan you money. Dodd-Frank is a disaster. We're going to be doing a big number on Dodd-Frank. So that's one big reason why I'm taking this action, and I'll be taking an action later this morning—and if you'd like, you can join me at the signing—to begin our effort to dramatically reduce Federal regulations. And we'll be reducing them, big league, and their damaging effects on our small businesses, our economy, our entrepreneurial spirit. And it's been very badly damaged.

So the American Dream is back. We're going to create an environment for small business like we haven't had in many, many decades. This isn't a knock on a President Obama, this is a knock on many Presidents preceding me. This is a knock on everybody. It got particularly bad in the last 8 years. But it's not a knock on anybody, it's a knock on many.

So I just want to thank you all for being here. And now let's talk.

*Q. *Sir, what did you think of the protests yesterday and the legal challenges to your Executive order?* *

NOTE: The President spoke at 9:16 a.m. in the Roosevelt Room at the White House. In his remarks, he referred to Chris Christou, co-owner, Gold Crust Baking Co. Inc.; Linda E. McMahon, Administrator–designate, Small Business Administration; Attorney General-designate Jefferson B. Sessions III; Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer; Sergio Marchionne, chief executive officer, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles; Marillyn A. Hewson, chairman, president, and chief executive officer, Lockheed Martin Corp.; Stephen A. Schwarzman, chief executive officer, and cofounder, Blackstone Group, in his capacity as Chairman of the President's Strategic and Policy Forum; Mark Fields, president and chief executive officer, Ford Motor Co.; and Mary T. Barra, chief executive officer, General Motors Co. A reporter referred to Executive Order 13769. The transcript, prepared for immediate release by the Office of the Press Secretary, was received by the Office of the Federal Register on July 27.

*Categories:* Addresses and Remarks : Small-business owners, meeting with President*.*

*Locations: *Washington, DC.

*Names:* Barra, Mary T.; Christou, Chris; Cohn, Gary D.; Fields, Mark; Hewson, Marillyn A.; Marchionne, Sergio; McKenney, Larry N.; McMahon, Linda E.; Obama, Barack; Schumer, Charles E.; Schwarzman, Stephen A.; Sessions, Jefferson B., III; Weatherup-Anthis, Joy A.

*Subjects:* Business and industry : Domestic investment, promotion efforts; Business and industry : Manufacturing industry :: Improvement; Business and industry : Small businesses :: Economic impact; Business and industry : Small businesses :: Promotion efforts; Congress : Senate :: Minority leader; Congress : Senate :: Presidential nominations, confirmation process; Defense, Department of : Procurement contracts, improvement efforts; Energy : Oil and gas industry :: U.S.-based pipeline construction, domestic material and equipment requirements; Government organization and employees : Federal regulations, review; Justice, Department of : Attorney General–designate; Small Business Administration : Administrator-designate; White House Office : Economic Council, National; White House Office : Strategic and Policy Forum, President's.

*DCPD Number:* DCPD201700517.