[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 158 (2012), Part 3]
[Senate]
[Pages 4221-4223]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                           STUDENT LOAN DEBT

  Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I held a hearing last week in the 
Judiciary Committee on an issue that most Americans are aware of, but 
not aware of the severity of the challenge we face. The issue relates 
to student loan debt.
  Last month the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys 
issued an eye-opening report entitled ``The Student Loan Debt Bomb.'' 
The report pointed out that American student borrowing exceeded $100 
billion in 2010, and the total outstanding student loans exceeded $1 
trillion last year. There is now more student loan debt in this country 
than credit card debt.
  Of course, when used prudently, student loans can be valuable. I am 
living proof of that. I borrowed money to go to college and law school. 
I paid it back and felt it was money well invested. I stand here today 
because of it. A lot of students have gone through the same experience. 
Unfortunately, too many students today are being steered into loans 
that they will never be able to repay.
  According to an analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, 37 
million Americans hold outstanding student loan debt with an average 
balance of $23,300. However, only 39 percent of those student loan 
borrowers were actually paying down the balance. More than half of the 
student loan borrowers in the United States are not paying down their 
loan.
  The New York Fed's study found that 14 percent of student loan 
borrowers--that is 5.4 million Americans--were delinquent while the 
remaining 47 percent of borrowers were either in forbearance, which 
means a delay in payment as the actual cost of the loan increases, or 
still in school and adding to their debt.
  Last month Standard & Poor's issued a report saying that ``student 
loan debt has ballooned and may turn into a bubble.'' Moody's Analytics 
recently said that ``the long-run outlook for student lending and 
borrowers remains worrisome.''
  The overall growth in student indebtedness is troubling. The most 
pressing and worrisome parts of it are private student loans. What are 
these loans? These are loans given to individual students, not by the 
Federal Government or through a Federal agency, but rather through a 
private entity.
  According to the Project on Student Debt, the most recent national 
data shows that 33 percent of bachelors degree recipients graduated 
with private loans--one out of three--at an average loan amount of 
$12,550. The difference between private and federal student loans is 
significant. Private loans to students in school are far riskier to 
pay. Federal student loans, through the government, have fixed, 
affordable interest rates at 3.4 percent. They also have a variety of 
consumer protections, such as forbearance in times of economic 
hardship, and they offer manageable repayment options such as income-
based repayment plans.
  On the other hand, private student loans often have high variable 
interest rates. While interest is at 3.4 percent for a government loan, 
it can be as high as 18 percent for the student loans from a private 
source. We found that in our committee. That dramatic interest rate 
increase means that many students, unless they land a great job and can 
pay it back quickly, will find the principal not being reduced and the 
interest building up over the years.
  Once a student takes out a private loan, that student is at the mercy 
of the lender. I have invited students from across the United States to 
share their stories about private loans and what has happened to them. 
I want to tell you one of those stories this evening. A young lady came 
to testify before my committee. Her name is Danielle Jokela. Danielle 
is a constituent of mine who lives in Illinois and appeared at our 
hearing on the looming student debt crisis.
  The odds were against Danielle. Both of her parents were high school 
dropouts, but because of the personal value education has for her, 
Danielle was determined to go to college. Not unlike a lot of young 
people these days, her family couldn't help her. She had to do it on 
her own. In the year 2004, she moved from Minnesota to Chicago to 
attend the Harrington College of Design, a for-profit institution owned 
by Career Education Corporation.
  Before I go any further, let me tell you the story of the Career 
Education Corporation. November 1 of last year the CEO of Career 
Education Corporation resigned after it was disclosed that this for-
profit school had reported incorrect information to its accreditor 
about the number of students who were getting jobs after they 
graduated. It was such an embarrassment to the corporation that he was 
forced to resign. The parting gift for this embarrassing situation was 
a $4 million parachute to the CEO as he left the Career Education 
Corporation. He failed in his job and got rewarded for it.
  Now let's go back to Danielle's story. She didn't fail. She kept 
going to school. She fully trusted the staff at Harrington to help her 
with financial aid. They helped her fill out all the financial aid 
paperwork for her loans and made phone calls on her behalf. There was 
no discussion about interest rates and what the actual debt load would 
be by the time she finished. School employees never talked about 
monthly payments once she graduated nor did they tell her about the 
kind of salary she could expect to earn upon graduation or the 
percentage of graduates coming out of the Harrington School of Design 
who actually found a design job.
  In 2007 Danielle graduated with a bachelor of fine arts in interior 
design. You can imagine how proud she was coming from a family where 
her parents had not finished high school. After graduation, she started 
to pay back the following amounts that she had to borrow to graduate: 
$37,625 in Federal loans and $40,925 in private loans. Danielle owed 
$79,000 when she got her bachelor's degree in interior design. Today, 5 
years after graduation, she still hasn't found a job in that field and 
she now doesn't owe $79,000, she owes more than $98,000. Those loans 
just continue to grow. She makes one combined payment each month of 
approximately $830. Nearly 28 percent of her current income goes to 
student loan debt. Twenty-five years from now--25 years in the future--
if the interest rates hold where they are, she will have paid nearly 
$56,000 for her Federal loan, which started off at $37,000, and nearly 
$155,000 for the $41,000 private loan. That is approximately $211,000 
she will have paid 25 years from now on her $79,000 debt. That is a 
staggering 264 percent.
  Do we believe any college student could even understand when they are 
signing these loan forms what they are getting into? They assume that 
if the Federal Government loans money to the school, it must be a good 
school. Not true.
  Many of these schools, such as Career Education Corporation, have 
what they call national accreditation. I met with a national 
accrediting agency. It accredits a lot of schools, some of which the 
Presiding Officer is very familiar with in his State. It turns out that 
the for-profit schools have a peer-reviewed accrediting operation. They 
look to one another to decide whether they are competent to hold 
themselves out as schools offering higher education, and the Department 
of Education accepts it. So what is the student to think? I am going to 
an accredited school, a nationally accredited school. The Federal 
Government is offering loans, maybe even Pell grants. The student would 
assume that this must be a good school.

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  Secondly, of course, the situation with the cost of these for-profit 
schools is dramatically higher, the amount of indebtedness of the 
students is dramatically higher than public education and even private 
not-for-profit schools. The amount of the indebtedness of the students 
is dramatically higher, and more and more of these for-profit private 
schools are dragging the kids, the young students, into debt with 
private loans with absolutely explosive terms to them.
  There is one thing I haven't mentioned that bears saying. Under the 
current law, no student loan is dischargeable in bankruptcy except 
under the most severe and extreme circumstances. It hardly ever 
happens. It means that the loan papers you sign at the age of 21 are 
going to be with you for a lifetime. And if you aren't one of the lucky 
ones--landing a good job, making enough money--you will watch what 
happens as that student debt increases. Danielle's debt went from 
$79,000 in 5 years to over $98,000, and it continues to grow.
  I asked her about her lifestyle--32 years old, married. She is trying 
to do the best she can. She can't go back to school--impossible. She 
can't borrow more money to do that. She is looking for a job and trying 
her best. She said: It looks like I am going to lose my home over this. 
It is just a little house my husband and I were working on paying for. 
We just can't do it anymore.
  Age 32, virtually in debtors' prison for these private loans and 
Federal loans--for what? For making the mistake of going to college? I 
don't happen to think that is a mistake. For most of us, it was a 
ticket to a future. She thought it was a ticket to a future for her. It 
turned out to be a ticket to a life of debt.
  What are we going to do about this? Are we just going to shrug our 
shoulders and say that these students ought to think twice about 
signing up or their parents who cosigned should have asked harder 
questions or are we going to be more honest about this? The current 
situation has to be examined in honest terms.
  How many private loans are now not dischargeable in bankruptcy? What 
other private loans would not be dischargeable in bankruptcy? The 
answer is none. The only things nondischargeable in bankruptcy are 
things like Federal student loans, taxes you owe the government, child 
support, and alimony. These private loans from schools were added a few 
years ago. We gave them the sweetest deal of any creditor in America. 
No other private unsecured creditor gets that protection in bankruptcy, 
other than those issuing private student loans, like for-profit 
schools.
  So you say to yourself, Congress, why did you do that? Why did you 
offer that kind of a benefit to one tiny sector of the economy? And the 
answer is, there wasn't a lot of debate about it and there wasn't a lot 
of talk about it. It was in the bankruptcy reform bill, which I voted 
against, and the provision was stuck in there that gave them this 
sweetheart arrangement, this sweetheart deal.
  Well, it may have been a sweet deal for the schools and the private 
lenders; it sure isn't for Danielle. I don't know what to tell this 
young woman. There is no place for her to turn. At age 32, that is her 
plight in life now. It is happening more and more.
  What I read earlier about this looming student debt crisis and the 
fact that we could be dealing with a bubble is something we ought to 
take seriously. It is a serious problem. While the volume of private 
student loans is down from its peak in 2007 when it accounted for 26 
percent of all student loans, we know that private lending is still 
being aggressively promoted by the for-profit college industry.
  I always put these numbers on the record so people can put it into 
perspective. Ten percent of the postsecondary students in America 
attend for-profit colleges--10 percent. The for-profit colleges receive 
25 percent of all Federal aid to education--10 percent of the students 
but 25 percent of the Federal aid to education.
  We had to put a statutory limit on the Federal subsidy of these 
schools at 90 percent. They can receive no more than 90 percent of 
their money--a for-profit school--in money directly from the Federal 
Government--loans, Pell grants. The GI bill is excluded, so it can go 
up even higher. These are the closest things to government agencies 
with multimillion-dollar parachutes for their CEOs that I have ever 
seen. Yet we turn our backs and say that is the way it works.
  The Project on Student Debt reports that 42 percent of for-profit 
college students had private loans in 2008, up from 12 percent. For-
profit college students also graduate with more debt than their peers. 
And the last statistic: 10 percent of the students, 25 percent of the 
Federal aid to education, 44 percent of the student loan defaults 
through for-profit schools.
  The answer is obvious: They string these kids out, bury them in debt, 
they end up graduating, and they can't find a job to pay off their 
debt. And we sit here and say: Gosh, I wish there was something we 
could do about it.
  There are a lot of things we can do about it. We need to take action. 
I have introduced legislation--the Fairness For Struggling Students 
Act--that restores the pre-2005 bankruptcy treatment for private 
student loans. If those for-profit schools and those creditors making 
private student loans knew they were dischargeable in bankruptcy, would 
they ask harder questions about the payback? Would they be more 
concerned about whether the students actually could end up with a job? 
You bet they would. There is no reason private student loans should get 
treated differently than any other private debt in bankruptcy, and it 
is especially egregious that these private loans are nondischargeable 
where a student was steered into a loan while the student still had 
eligibility for the much lower costing Federal student loan. Think 
about that. Here is a student who is eligible for a 3.4-percent Federal 
student loan being lured into a private loan at 18 percent. As long as 
they have eligibility for the Federal student loan, the private loan 
certainly should not be nondischargeable in bankruptcy.
  I am encouraging my colleagues to take a hard look at this issue. I 
bet a nickel that if my colleagues went to a town meeting in any town 
in America--in Illinois or any other State--and asked folks there, does 
anybody have any concerns about student loans, watch the hands go up. 
People are worried about it.
  The last example I will use is one of the people who work in my 
Federal office who is a wonderful lady who cleans the building and we 
have gotten to know her. She is an immigrant to this country with a 
limited command of English, but she is a hard-working person. Her 
daughter graduated from high school with a GED, and she was so elated 
when her daughter finally made it through high school. She came in one 
day and said: I have great news. My daughter was accepted to college.
  It turned out she was accepted at Westwood College. Westwood College 
accepted her and offered her a degree in law enforcement. We asked her 
mother what it is going to cost. Well, it is the $5,500 Pell grant plus 
$17,000 more for 1 year. This college, unfortunately, has become 
notorious. It is under investigation by the Illinois attorney general 
for its loans. Students who watch all these crime programs on TV can't 
wait to become part of law enforcement. Here is the bad news: Westwood 
College's law enforcement degree is not accepted by any law enforcement 
agency in Illinois. It is not a legitimate college degree.
  Well, we called Westwood because we have been through this with them 
before many times and said: If you don't tear up those papers right now 
and allow her mom and her to walk away from this, there will be a press 
conference out in front of your building tomorrow morning. They tore up 
the papers. But, sadly, many college students who went to Westwood 
didn't have that good result. The worst one I know of is a young lady 
living in the basement of her parents' home now, a graduate of Westwood 
with a law enforcement degree and $90,000 of debt and nowhere to turn. 
She is in her late twenties and

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has nowhere to turn. That is the reality of what is happening out there 
in the real world.
  We have a responsibility here, a responsibility to these students, 
these leaders of tomorrow, a responsibility when it comes to the 
reputation of education in our country to step in and police the for-
profit schools that are not doing a good job, that are taking advantage 
of students and leaving them deeply in debt with worthless diplomas. It 
is not an issue where people jump up and say: Let's get down to the 
floor and join Durbin on this one. It is just not that interesting to a 
lot of folks yet. I am afraid it will be. If this looming student debt 
crisis grows, there will be more and more tragic stories like the one I 
put in the Record today about Danielle Jokela.
  Mr. President, I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming.

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