[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 155 (2009), Part 3]
[House]
[Pages 4126-4138]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




 PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF CONFERENCE REPORT ON H.R. 1, AMERICAN 
                 RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT OF 2009

  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, by direction of the Committee on 
Rules, I call up House Resolution 168 and ask for its immediate 
consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 168

       Resolved, That upon adoption of this resolution it shall be 
     in order to consider the conference report to accompany the 
     bill (H.R. 1) making supplemental appropriations for job 
     preservation and creation, infrastructure investment, energy 
     efficiency and science, assistance to the unemployed, and 
     State and local fiscal stabilization, for the fiscal year 
     ending September 30, 2009, and for other purposes. All points 
     of order against consideration of the conference report are 
     waived except those arising under clause 9 of rule XXI. The 
     conference report shall be considered as read. All points of 
     order against the conference report are waived. The previous 
     question shall be considered as ordered on the conference 
     report to its adoption without intervening motion except: (1) 
     90 minutes of debate and (2) one motion to recommit if 
     applicable.


                             Point of Order

  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I make a point of order against the 
resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his point of order.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I make a point of order against this 
resolution because the resolution is in violation of section 426(a) of 
the Congressional Budget Act.
  The resolution before us violates the provisions of 426(a) because it 
contains a waiver of all points of order against the conference report, 
including a waiver of section 425 of the Congressional Budget Act which 
prohibits the consideration of a conference report in violation of the 
Unfunded Mandates Reform Act.
  We got this 1,000-page package online after midnight, totally in 
violation of the 48-hour commitment that was made by every Member to 
support that period of time during which it could be read; and we have 
no idea, Madam Speaker, as to whether or not there are in fact unfunded 
mandates in this measure.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California makes a point 
of order that the resolution violates section 426(a) of the 
Congressional Budget Act of 1974.
  The gentleman has met the threshold burden to identify the specific 
language in the resolution on which the point of order is predicated. 
Such a point of order shall be disposed of by the question of 
consideration.
  The gentleman from California and the gentleman from Colorado each 
will control 10 minutes of debate on the question of consideration.

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  After that debate the Chair will put the question of consideration, 
to wit: Will the House now consider the resolution?
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from California.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, let me begin by saying I see my friend 
from Colorado (Mr. Perlmutter) here. It was announced late last night 
when we were in the Rules Committee that the distinguished Chair of the 
Committee on Rules, Mrs. Slaughter, would be managing this rule; and I 
can only surmise that she is not here due to the very tragic news that 
we got overnight of the loss of 48 lives in the Continental plane crash 
that took place just outside of Buffalo.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. DREIER. Yes, I am happy to the yield to my friend.

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  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Yes, the plane crash is why she is not here today. 
And it is a tragedy that we all feel this morning.
  Mr. DREIER. Reclaiming my time, that is exactly what I wanted to say. 
As we begin this debate, our thoughts and prayers go to all of the 
victims and the families and Mrs. Slaughter whom I know is dealing with 
that issue, Madam Speaker.
  Let me say, as we now focus on this very, very important debate, we 
had a unanimous vote here in the House, a unanimous vote, that called 
for 48 hours to be provided for Members of Congress and the American 
people to see this measure before we would have a chance to vote on it. 
We all know, as Speaker Pelosi said yesterday, that this is both 
transformational and historic. And for that reason, I believe that if 
we have a measure before us that is historic and transformational, we 
should comply with the vote that was cast by every single Member who 
was present at the time saying that 48 hours should be provided. And 
unfortunately, there was virtually no time provided. We had a copy of 
the bill placed before us in the Rules Committee very late last night. 
And it is my understanding that the online measure at that point, which 
was touted by Members who were in the Rules Committee, actually omitted 
three sections of the bill and that it was not placed online as we're 
going to be voting on it today until after midnight; after midnight. So 
that means earlier this morning is when it was placed online.
  Now, Madam Speaker, I have a statement here from our good friend, the 
distinguished majority leader, Mr. Hoyer, who said, ``The House is 
scheduled to meet at 9 a.m. tomorrow and is expected to proceed 
directly to consideration of the American Recovery and Reinvestment 
conference report. The conference report text will be filed this 
evening, giving Members enough time to review the conference report 
before voting on it tomorrow afternoon.''
  Madam Speaker, the American people are hurting. We are going through 
one of the most difficult economic challenges that we've faced in 
modern history. There is no doubt about it. In fact, if one looks at 
the economic downturn, we suffered in 1991 and 2001 very, very shallow 
economic recessions. The early 1980s was the last time we faced a 
challenge as difficult as the one we are in the midst of today. We have 
put forward a very pro-growth economic package that I know that the 
American people would be able to support. And I'm convinced, based on 
the empirical evidence that we have of what took place in 1961 and 
1981, it would unleash the potential of the American people, because we 
are the most productive worker on the face of the Earth. We are the 
people who are the most innovative in the world. And for us to, in any 
way, constrain that growth potential is, I believe, wrong.
  And what we have before us is a 1,000-page bill. This is 1,000 pages, 
Madam Speaker. And I'm reminded when Ronald Reagan was delivering a 
State of the Union message when he held up a document that was just 
about like this, and he dropped it right there on the lectern. And he 
said that he would never sign anything like that again. And here we are 
on Friday the 13th of 2009, we are in the midst of considering a 
measure following a campaign that promised transparency, disclosure, 
accountability and hope. And as we listened to the debate last night in 
the Rules Committee, which went on for quite a while, I have to say 
that there is a lot of hope involved in this 1,000-page bill. But there 
are things about it that we know. It is approaching $1 trillion when 
you take interest in consideration. I know it is $790 billion, but when 
you take into consideration the interest that will be shouldered, it is 
a $1 trillion package. We know that.
  The hope is that people are saying it is this or nothing else, Madam 
Speaker, this or nothing else. And I have got to tell you that that is 
not the case. That is not the case. We, as Republicans, have come 
forward with a package from our economic stimulus working group which I 
believe would prevent us from having to deal with anything like this 
whatsoever. And the point of order that I'm raising, Madam Speaker, has 
to do with the fact that we don't know what is in here. I don't think 
that anyone knows whether or not there are unfunded mandates in here 
that have been imposed on the private sector, on the American people, 
or on local governments.
  And so with that, I would like to, at this juncture, reserve the 
balance of my time, Madam Speaker.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I might 
consume.
  Technically, this point of order is about whether or not to consider 
the rule and ultimately the underlying bill. But we know what it is 
really about, and that is about trying to block the bill without any 
opportunity for debate and without any opportunity for an up-or-down 
vote on the legislation itself. And that is just plain wrong.
  I sincerely hope my colleagues will vote ``yes'' so we can consider 
this critical legislation today on its merits and not kill it on a 
procedural motion. We have a long day ahead. Let's not waste any more 
time on trying to stop this legislation from being debated or enacted. 
Those who oppose the bill can vote against it on final passage. That is 
their prerogative. We must consider this rule, and we must pass this 
conference report for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act today.
  I have the right to close. But in the end, I will urge my colleagues 
to vote ``yes'' to consider the rule.
  And with that, Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, may I inquire how much time is remaining 
on the debate on the point of order.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California has 4 minutes 
remaining.
  Mr. DREIER. At this time I would like to yield 1 minute to my good 
friend from Texas (Mr. Poe).
  Mr. POE of Texas. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  Madam Speaker, procedure is important. Procedure rules are important 
because they are placed there for a reason. This House unanimously 
voted that there should be 48 hours after a bill is filed before we 
voted on it. The reason for that is to give us time to read it. It is 
unconscionable that we would vote on a 1,000-page bill without at least 
reading the bill. But we didn't get 48 hours. I guess the motion really 
meant 4 to 8 hours, because that is all we've really received, 4 to 8 
hours to decide whether or not to proceed.
  We need more time to read the bill. Let's stay here until tomorrow or 
Sunday or Monday. But let's read the bill, regardless of our position 
on it, and then we can be knowledgeable to vote on this $1-trillion 
package one way or the other. The idea that we're going to vote on a 
bill we haven't read because we didn't get time to do it is absurd, 
Madam Speaker.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time to 
say this saddens me greatly. President Obama has come forward and 
talked about the issue of transparency, disclosure and accountability, 
and he has talked about hope, and he has talked about change. And we've 
all been very inspired by the words of President Obama. And we've been 
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many of his actions and his effort to reach out and work with us in a 
bipartisan way to deal with the challenge of getting our economy back 
on track. It is something that I believe is terrific. It's wonderful. 
And it's what is needed at this time.
  But I will say, Madam Speaker, that as we look at what has been put 
before us, a 1,000-page bill, and we are told by so many that if we 
don't vote for this bill, we're choosing to do nothing, in fact, I will 
say that I did not like it when the President said that there are some 
out there who want to do nothing. And Madam Speaker, I will say that I 
know of no Republican, no Democrat, I know of no one in this country 
who wants to do nothing. Because just the other night when I had a 
telephone town hall meeting and listened to a number of people, 
including a small contractor, a small businessman who is a building 
contractor, having trouble getting access to credit so that he can get 
to work, I was struck with the fact that he told me, looking at a $1-
trillion measure is not only not going to help him, but in fact, it 
will exacerbate, it will worsen the challenges that he has. We talked 
about our alternative.
  In fact, in this town hall meeting, Madam Speaker, one of my 
constituents asked me at the outset to support President Obama and his 
package. And when I began explaining the difficulty with this package 
and the alternative that we have that is focused on small businesses, 
entrepreneurs, the self-employed and families across this country, 
focusing on marginal rate reduction, focusing on encouraging 
responsibility so that people can gain equity in their homes by 
incentivizing them to make a greater down payment on that home and to 
take up the inventory that exists there, as I walked through these 
provisions, this person who began saying to me that it was imperative 
that I support this package then said, your alternative makes much more 
sense.
  And so, Madam Speaker, I want to disabuse any of my colleagues of 
this notion that we want to do nothing. We very much want to work 
diligently to ensure that we can get our economy back on track. And we 
have a pro-growth package which is modeled after what John F. Kennedy 
did in 1961 and what Ronald Reagan did in 1981.
  And with that, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, again I want to urge a ``yes'' vote so 
that we can consider this rule and consider the legislation today. It 
is not a time for delay. It is not a time for inaction. For 8 years, 
we've had continued deferred maintenance, we've had continued problems 
in the economy to the point we are now required to move forward and 
move forward in a bold way. That is the purpose of the American 
Recovery and Reinvestment Act. It has been discussed and debated over 
the course of the last month in full view of the American people. And 
it is time to take it up here in the Congress and pass it.
  And with that I urge a ``yes'' on the consideration of the rule.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is, Will the House now consider 
the resolution?
  The question of consideration was decided in the affirmative.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Colorado is recognized 
for 1 hour.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, for purposes of debate only, I yield 
the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier). 
All time yielded for consideration of the rule is for debate only.
  And I yield myself such time as I may consume.


                             General Leave

  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I also ask unanimous consent that all Members be 
given 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks on 
House Resolution 168.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Colorado?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, America is in a tough spot today. 
Today we face one of the greatest economic challenges we've seen in the 
history of this Nation. With this great economic crisis comes great 
responsibility for this body which is vested to represent the best 
interests of the American people. Madam Speaker, the Bush 
administration left us with the worst economy we've faced since World 
War II. Like President Franklin D. Roosevelt did over 75 years ago, we 
must build a floor under our economic downward spiral and set America 
on a new, more prosperous course.
  Since this recession began, 3.6 million Americans have lost their 
jobs. Last month alone, the country lost nearly 600,000 jobs, the 
equivalent of losing every job in the State of Maine. Even more 
troubling is the news that our Nation is expected to lose another 3 to 
5 million jobs within the next year if we don't take action now. And it 
must be taken now. In fact, 2008 was the worst year for job loss since 
1945, while unemployment has skyrocketed to the highest level in 26 
years.
  Madam Speaker, Americans are worried. Nothing is on the minds of 
American workers and families more than the troubled state of our 
economy.

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  At dinner tables across this Nation, American families are concerned, 
not only about our country's economy, but about their own futures and 
their own well-being. Will they have a job next week? Will they be able 
to retire when they plan to? Will they be able to afford their 
mortgage? Can they sell their house? What about the rent and the 
child's education?
  We must act now to turn things around. If nothing is done, our 
economy will continue its downward spiral, jeopardizing the futures of 
all Americans.
  As President Roosevelt once said, ``In our seeking for economic and 
political progress, we all go up, or else we all go down.''
  And, Madam Speaker, I join my colleagues here today determined to 
make sure that all Americans go up, each and every one of us. We are 
here to take swift, bold action to boost our economy and put Americans 
back to work. Our actions today may determine the prosperity and well-
being of Americans for generations to come.
  This compromise of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is a 
major victory for the American people. It will help strengthen our 
economy and help Americans hurt by this recession today, as well as 
investing in our shared future.
  This bill will create and save nearly 4 million jobs, jump-start our 
economy, and bring the process of transforming it for the 21st century 
with carefully targeted priority investments. We will also provide 
immediate direct tax relief to over 95 percent of all Americans.
  Madam Speaker, for our future, we will significantly increase clean, 
renewable energy production, invest in a new smart power grid, put 
people to work in the short-term, while freeing us from our dependence 
on foreign oil in the long run.
  We'll renovate buildings and homes to make them more energy 
efficient, and create jobs that can't be sent overseas, while helping 
to curb global warming at the same time. We will rebuild our crumbling 
infrastructure and improve our roads, bridges, and schools, and in 
doing so, we will strengthen our path forward.
  We will invest in our health care system, cutting red tape and 
ensuring broader coverage, while saving countless lives and dollars.
  Finally, this legislation will assist those who have been impacted 
most by this crisis, by increasing food stamp and unemployment 
benefits, and making it easier for those who lose their jobs to keep 
their health insurance. These are just a few highlights of this 
comprehensive bill.
  Madam Speaker, the American people are hurting and they demand 
action. But they are also justifiably concerned about government 
spending in such difficult times. I want them to know that this bill 
contains strict transparency and accountability measures. It is open 
and visible and will be for people to look on the Web for each dollar 
that is spent. Americans will be able to go on-line to see how their 
tax dollars are being spent and provide comment.

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  The bill contains no earmarks, and provides important protections to 
State whistleblowers who report fraud and abuse.
  Furthermore, this legislation does not waste any time. It will 
immediately help put people to work, maintain their jobs, and begin to 
stabilize our economy. Just this week the CEO of Google said his 
company would ``absolutely'' hire new people if we pass this bill.
  Additionally, economists and elected officials from across the 
ideological spectrum have broadly endorsed this bill, and beseech us to 
pass it, because they agree we need bold action to turn our economy 
around.
  President Roosevelt told us that ``One thing is sure, we have to do 
something. We have to do the best we know how at the moment. If it 
doesn't turn out right, we can modify it as we go along.''
  Madam Speaker, it took us many years to get into this situation. We 
know this bill alone will not solve all of our economic woes overnight. 
We know that the road back to economic stability and prosperity will 
require hard work over time. But this bill is the right size and scope 
necessary to truly help us turn things around. I'm proud to say that 
America has faced great challenges before and turned crisis into 
opportunity.
  This legislation gives us the means to address this crisis 
immediately, and the opportunity to build the foundation for long-term 
prosperity. Like it has in the past, the ingenuity of American workers 
will be the engine of growth and prosperity if we just give them a 
chance to get back on the job.
  I urge my colleagues to support the conference report on the American 
Recovery and Reinvestment Act and, by doing so, restore confidence, 
strengthen our economy, and ensure a brighter future for our citizens 
from coast to coast.
  I now reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I might 
consume to begin by expressing my great appreciation to my friend from 
Colorado for yielding me the customary 30 minutes.
  Let me begin, as I did at the outset of the debate on the unfunded 
mandate point of order, Madam Speaker, by saying that we are all 
saddened with the very tragic news that Ms. Slaughter and her 
constituents have faced with the tragic plane crash which has taken 
place just outside of Buffalo with, reportedly, 48 people killed, and 
our thoughts and prayers continue to be with all of them.
  Let me say, at the beginning of this, Madam Speaker, I asked my 
friend who's managing this rule to yield to me, because I find it--I 
will associate myself with many of the points that he made. I will 
associate myself with certainly his closing remarks about the ability 
of the United States of America to take on great challenges that we 
face.
  But, Madam Speaker, to stand here and somehow talk about the great 
degree of transparency, when we, at midnight, were sitting in the Rules 
Committee, and the questions being posed to us could not be answered; 
that we were posing could not be answered, number one. And number two, 
we had before us a bill that we were told was exactly what the 
gentleman had said, made available on-line so that the American people 
could see it, and then I arrived just a few hours later, had come in 
early this morning to find that the measure was not even available on-
line until well after midnight because three sections of the bill were, 
in fact, missing.
  And so, my point is that we all know how much pain there is right now 
across this country. When you look at the people who have lost their 
jobs, if you look at people who are losing their homes, if you look at 
the tragic loss of life that is taking place, I talked to a good friend 
of mine yesterday who told me that his son's best friend's father had 
just committed suicide because of the economic downturn that we are 
facing.
  Madam Speaker, we know how personal this is. We know how terrible the 
situation that we face is. And that's why I believe that the commitment 
that has been made overwhelmingly, across the board, by Democrats and 
Republicans alike, that we would spend time deliberating over this 
issue to ensure that we get it right, that we would work in a 
bipartisan way, as President Obama repeatedly has promised, from his 
inaugural address right here on the west front of the Capitol to speech 
after speech that he's delivered, and through many of his actions.
  Now, last night, as we sat approaching midnight in the Rules 
Committee, my very good friend, the distinguished chair of the 
Committee on Appropriations was before us, talking about the fact that 
every single day, since the election, save two, he and members of his 
staff have been working to try and put this bill together. He referred 
to the fact that members of his staff, for the second time in a week or 
two, have gone 2 days without any sleep, working to put this bill 
together.
  We all understand, Madam Speaker, the urgency that is there. No one 
wants to delay action. No one wants to delay action on this very 
important bill because of the fact that the American people are 
hurting.
  But we do know this: What we've been able to see in this measure, in 
fact, goes way beyond the goal that is stated, that being stimulating 
our economy. We understand that important infrastructure spending 
cannot only play an important role in creating jobs, but it also can 
deal with the very important issue of goods movement, ensuring that our 
constituents are able to move around. We know that the grid and 
broadband infrastructure development is critical if we are going to 
remain competitive in this global marketplace. And yet, that is a very 
small fraction of this nearly $1 trillion measure, Madam Speaker.
  Now, as we listened to the testimony that was delivered in the Rules 
Committee, an exchange took place between the distinguished chair of 
the Committee on Appropriations and our new Rules Committee colleague, 
the gentlewoman from North Carolina (Ms. Foxx). And in that exchange, 
the question that was asked by Ms. Foxx was, how many jobs are going to 
be created by this measure?
  And I congratulate the distinguished chair of the Committee on 
Appropriations for pointing to the fact that he has no idea how many 
jobs are going to be created. And he correctly said that we can all 
find our own economists who support the notion of a certain number of 
jobs being created.
  Now, I will say that the chairman of the Council of Economic 
Advisers, Christina Romer, under President Obama, has, based on her 
study, found that the alternative proposal that we Republicans offered 
would create nearly twice as many jobs in half the amount of time than 
this package that is before us. So using one of his economists, Madam 
Speaker, I will say it buttresses our argument to ensure that we put 
into place our package for commission growth, as opposed to a massive 
spending bill.
  So the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations said he has no 
idea how many jobs are going to be created.
  And what is it that we have before us? We have before us a package 
that is indicative of what I describe as the ideological baggage of the 
past. It is nothing but throwing money at the problem, without the kind 
of oversight that is necessary, without the kind of scrutiny that is 
necessary.
  And as my friend from Texas, Judge Poe, said earlier, one of his 
constituents wants to opt out of this plan because the estimates are 
that it will cost $10,000 per family. Well, unfortunately, that's not 
an option that we have before us right now, because this is the measure 
that people are going to be voting on and I suspect will pass.
  I believe that it's a mistake. I believe it's a mistake, and I will 
tell you who else I believe if he were alive would conclude that it's a 
mistake. And we've used this quote repeatedly. It first came to my 
attention by our friend from St. Louis, Todd Akin, who told me that his 
88-year-old father who obviously lived during the time of the Great 
Depression found this quote. Henry Morgenthau was the Treasury 
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House Ways and Means Committee in 1939. And in that testimony, Madam 
Speaker, the Secretary of the Treasury, under Franklin Roosevelt, 
obviously, not some right-wing conservative economist, the Treasury 
Secretary under Franklin Roosevelt said: ``We have tried spending 
money. We are spending more than we have ever spent, and it does not 
work. I say, after 8 years of this Roosevelt administration, we have 
just as much unemployment as when we started, and an enormous debt to 
boot.''
  Now, that was in 1939, Madam Speaker. We are making a mistake if we 
proceed with this measure. I believe that.
  The American economy is going to get stronger because, as I said 
earlier, we are the most productive, we are the most innovative people 
on the face of the earth. We're going to get stronger. My fear is that 
this measure will, in fact, slow the economic recovery that we all 
would like to see take place soon.
  I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, just two points and then I would like 
to recognize my friend from Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern).
  But I think the really sad story, Mr. Dreier, that you related about 
the suicide underscores the urgency of this bill and the reason that it 
needs to be handled without delay.
  The second point I wanted to respond to is Christina Romer said that 
the Republican House analysis is flat wrong in its claim that the House 
Republican stimulus is much more effective. ``No matter what your 
analytical assumption,'' she says, ``the plan that the President 
supports would result in substantially greater job creation than the 
House Republican plan.''
  And with that I would yield 3 minutes to my friend from Massachusetts 
(Mr. McGovern).

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  Mr. McGOVERN. Madam Speaker, on January 20, President Obama and his 
administration inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression.
  A record budget deficit and a worsening economy, an economy that is 
now losing 600,000 jobs a month, was the result of failed economic 
policies. For too long, the previous administration allowed the deficit 
to rise through wasteful spending, including unpaid wars and tax cuts 
for the wealthiest Americans, while ignoring the challenges facing our 
economy.
  Let me be clear: This economy did not go bad overnight. No, Madam 
Speaker. It took years of neglect to bring us to this position.
  As a result, we are here today, trying to help our economy with a 
bold and historic recovery package. Economists ranging from 
conservative to liberal all agree that a recovery package is needed and 
that such a package must be bold. Any recovery package, they say, must 
provide a real shot in the arm to the economy, and that is what we have 
before us today. We have a package that will provide immediate funding 
to help the economy, but it is also designed to prevent an economic 
lull like the one we saw a few years after the Great Depression.
  Madam Speaker, we have people in our country who are going hungry, 
and there is money in this package for food stamps--the most effective 
and immediate stimulus available--and there is money for unemployment. 
There is money for roads and for bridges and for other important 
shovel-ready infrastructure programs. Yes, there are targeted tax cuts 
that will allow middle- and low-income families to receive tax relief 
during these trying times. Is it perfect? No. This is not the package I 
would draft if it were solely up to me, but it is the package that came 
through a bipartisan and open process.
  Now, my Republican friends had the opportunity to address this 
problem. Former President Bush could have acted on these programs 
before he left office, but he chose not to do so, allowing the 
recession to worsen. When Republicans decided to put forth an 
alternative plan, it was simply comprised of the failed policies of 
yesterday. When economists said there should be money for food stamps, 
my Republican friends on the other side of the aisle said ``no.''
  When economists said there should be money for transportation and 
infrastructure, my Republican friends said ``no.'' When economists said 
there should be money for unemployment and for aid to States for school 
construction, my friends on the other side of the aisle said ``no.''
  Madam Speaker, it is not enough to say ``no'' and to simply revert to 
the failed policies of the past. My friends offered their package. We 
had a vote and it failed miserably. People have had it with the failed 
economic policies of George W. Bush. Yet, instead of trying to work 
with President Obama and this Congress on a real recovery package, they 
continued to defy the needs of the American people and continued saying 
``no.''
  Saying ``no'' is easy. Saying ``no'' means you don't have to take 
responsibility for anything, but that is not what the American people 
want, and that is not what the American people voted for in the 
November elections.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I yield the gentleman an additional 30 seconds.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Madam Speaker, the bill before us will save or create 
more than 3 million jobs, and it will help people put food on their 
tables and receive health care as they try to make it through this 
recession.
  We need to fix this economy, and Democrats, with or without the 
Republicans, are going to do what is necessary to help the American 
people. Enough of politics as usual. We need to move forward. The 
American people are looking to us for help, and this package provides 
the help that they need.
  I congratulate the Speaker and the leadership and the chairman who 
worked on this recovery package. I urge my colleagues to support the 
rule and to support H.R. 1.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds.
  As I listen to my good friend from Worcester, I would say, my gosh, 
we certainly have seen a change in the level of debate around here. It 
is fascinating to see.
  Madam Speaker, as I listen to my friend from Colorado, I have got to 
tell you that, when I was quoting Dr. Christina Romer, chief of the 
Council of Economic Advisers, it was her methodology that was used that 
created twice as many jobs at half the cost.
  With that, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to my very hardworking Rules 
Committee colleague, the gentleman from Miami, Florida (Mr. Lincoln 
Diaz-Balart).
  Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, it is not petty 
when we say that each Member of this House should have the opportunity 
to read this legislation. We are the people's House. Every Member is 
elected. We are all cognizant of the great difficulty being suffered by 
the American people, of the jobs being lost, of the very, very sad 
stories facing each of our districts. So it is not petty to say that, 
as the House requested, we should have 48 hours to review this 
legislation.
  With regard to the substance, what we have been able to gauge is in 
the legislation. I remember when we first started discussing this 
package and, really, the tone of bipartisanship that was engulfing the 
Nation at the time. I was pleased because I believed that we would be 
able to modernize with this legislation. I believed we would see a 
modernization of the infrastructure--of the roads and bridges--of the 
United States.
  When I saw the first $800 billion bill that was passed on January 28, 
including $30 billion for shovel-ready infrastructure projects, I 
thought that was most unsatisfactory, that a great opportunity was 
being lost. Since we are going to burden the American people with all 
of this debt, I thought at least we would modernize our infrastructure. 
I thought, well, maybe when the bill comes back it will be improved, 
and we will see more of the $800 billion, more than $30 billion within 
the $800 billion for our roads and bridges and for the modernization of 
our infrastructure.
  When I saw the bill returning and that instead of $30 billion there 
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I realized that this opportunity lost is more than sad, because the 
American people believed that this was sacrifice for modernization, for 
higher productivity, for the creation of jobs. That is not what it is.
  So, with sadness, I rise not only to oppose the rule but to say that 
this is an unsatisfactory package and that we can do better. We all 
believe that we need to act. I hope that we all come to the conclusion 
that we must, that we can do better.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I would like to yield 3 minutes to the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Matsui), a member of the Committee on 
Rules.
  Ms. MATSUI. Madam Speaker, it is clear that our economy is in peril. 
For months, the House of Representatives has been working to develop 
solutions to revive the job market, to keep people in their homes and 
to restore faith in the American economy. We have held substantive 
hearings and markups. We have debated the merits of different 
proposals. We have listened to nonpartisan expert testimony on what the 
Federal Government can do to save the jobs we have and to create 
millions more.
  I have listened to and have participated in this debate, and I have 
weighed the opinions of the experts, but when I consider the package 
before us today, I think mainly of the people in my district who are 
suffering.
  I think of families in my district who are living on food stamps. I 
think of seniors who can no longer afford to see a doctor when they're 
sick. I think of the new mother who has just been laid off and who is 
not sure if she can pay her mortgage next month.
  I think of Francisca Monterjano. Francisca lost most of her 401(k) 
when the stock market crashed last year. She lined up outside of Raley 
Field earlier this month, along with thousands of my constituents, 
eager for part-time work even though she is retired.
  Francisca and the rest of my constituents have spoken, Madam Speaker. 
They have told me clearly:
  We need this package. We need the unemployment benefits and the 
increased access to health care that it represents. We need the nearly 
4 million jobs it will save or create. 7,800 of those jobs will be in 
my district alone, and many of these will be in the clean energy 
industry that will drive our future economy. We need the public transit 
and flood protection infrastructure that the bill will provide. We need 
the investment in primary and secondary education that will help train 
our children for work in the jobs of the future, and we need the tax 
relief that this bill contains.
  Today's package is a product of compromise and of negotiation. It is 
not perfect. Yet the state of our economy is too bleak not to act now. 
Millions of people across our country are suffering too much for this 
House to shy away from its responsibility to lead. Now is not the time 
for partisan bickering or for political gain. Now is the time for 
action, for leadership.
  So today, Madam Speaker, I choose to lead by casting my vote in favor 
of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. I urge my colleagues to 
do the same.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time, I am happy to yield 1\1/2\ 
minutes to my very distinguished colleague from Tulare, California (Mr. 
Nunes).
  Mr. NUNES. Madam Speaker, this legislation is not about creating 
jobs. If jobs were the priority of Democrats, leaders would have 
listened to my pleas to help California.
  I had asked Democrat leaders to include a provision that would not 
have cost one penny. It would have simply brought water to my 
constituents, and it would have saved 60,000 jobs.
  Folks may ask: Why didn't the Democrat leaders put this in? Well, it 
is because their friends in the radical environmental community have 
decided that 2-inch minnows are more important than the people in my 
district. Just listen to a California deputy attorney general who 
moonlights as a radical environmentalist. Here is what he said about my 
constituents:
  ``What parent raises their child to be a farm worker? These kids are 
the least educated people in America . . . They turn to lives of crime. 
They go on welfare. They get into drug trafficking, and they join 
gangs.''
  This is pathetic. You are spending $1 trillion, and you will not put 
in one provision that would create or save 60,000 jobs. This is an 
insult to my constituents, an absolute insult.
  Vote ``no'' on this rule. Vote ``no'' on this bill.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, how much time remains on both sides?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California has 16 minutes 
remaining; the gentleman from Colorado has 17\1/2\ minutes remaining.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I would like to yield 2 minutes to the 
gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Polis), a member of the Committee on 
Rules.
  Mr. POLIS of Colorado. Madam Speaker, I rise in support of the 
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. I want to thank Speaker 
Pelosi, Chairman Obey, Chairman Miller, and all of my colleagues for 
doing what this crisis demands and for doing what the American people 
have asked us to do.
  This is no ordinary economic downturn. It is a rapid meltdown that 
threatens the very foundations of our capitalist system. The Bush 
administration took a record budget surplus and left us the largest 
deficit in U.S. history. Our national debt has doubled, and the amount 
we owe to foreign countries has tripled. Five million Americans no 
longer have health insurance, and 7.6 million families have fallen into 
poverty. The laundry list of mistakes from the previous 
administration's failed policies has left us no choice but to take 
swift and decisive action to tackle these challenges head on.
  This landmark legislation represents a new chapter and a new 
direction for our great Nation. By creating 3.5 million jobs and by 
investing in our infrastructure--physical and human--we are taking 
immediate action to restore growth and prosperity to the American 
people. Americans understand that a healthy environment goes hand in 
hand with a healthy economy.
  This bill gives States and renewable energy producers the tools they 
need to green our energy infrastructure. It promotes a green workforce, 
spurs green innovation and invests heavily in our public lands. It does 
this while creating new and long-lasting jobs that will make our 
country the economic, scientific and environmental leader that it once 
was and once again will be.
  Madam Speaker, we can and will regain the world's confidence in our 
economy. We will retain our global competitiveness, and we will, 
indeed, save capitalism and free enterprise with one of the largest tax 
cuts ever.
  With its robust commitment to our education system, this legislation 
invests in our children's future and paves the way for generations of 
success. Education is the only meaningful, long-term investment we can 
make to stimulate the American economy, and there is no better way to 
remain the world's leader in innovation.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I yield the gentleman an additional 15 seconds.
  Mr. POLIS of Colorado. I applaud President Obama and my colleagues in 
both Chambers for working hard to ensure that education from early 
childhood through college is an important part of the recovery package.
  Again, I applaud the tireless efforts of all those involved in the 
crafting and in the negotiation of this historic legislation.

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  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, it's not often that we have the 
opportunity to hear the brilliance of both Diaz-Balart brothers in the 
same debate.
  Now I would like to yield 1 minute to our good friend from Miami, the 
other Diaz-Balart.
  Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Madam Speaker, we clearly need a 
stimulus bill, a bill that creates jobs. Unfortunately, the only thing 
that this is going to stimulate is more government bureaucracy and 
government bureaucrats. This will not help the economy.

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  Let me add some ammunition.
  Only $3 billion, which is one-third of 1 percent to help the job 
creators to stimulate small businesses. One-third of 1 percent for 
small businesses that are the job creators? And yet, it's going to add 
$9,400 for all of our American families in debt; $9,400. Less than 7 
percent of the money goes to infrastructure. That's shameful.
  You know, this House debated recently the TARP bill to try to cover 
itself for the embarrassment, the embarrassment and lack of 
accountability of that TARP bailout bill. This is just the ``Son of 
TARP.'' We're going to be embarrassed. It's not going to help the 
economy like it's supposed to, and we're going to read about the 
scandals.
  Please vote this bill down.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I would like to yield to the chairman 
of the Transportation Committee, the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. 
Oberstar), 3 minutes.
  Mr. OBERSTAR. This bill provides $64.1 billion for transportation and 
infrastructure investments under the jurisdiction of our committee. 
What is included in this bill from the jurisdiction of our committee 
will create and sustain 1.8 million jobs, real jobs, construction jobs, 
professional journeymen, career apprentice, brick layers, cement 
finishers, backhoe operators. Real jobs in the U.S. economy for people 
who will be paying taxes, not being paid unemployment compensation for 
not working. They will get a working day's wage, and they will pay 
taxes on it and their companies will pay taxes on it.
  We'll generate $322 billion of total economic activity over the next 
2 years.
  And we are going to ensure that the States, departments of 
transportation, the municipal metropolitan planning organizations, the 
individual city and regional and metropolitan area planning 
organizations, and the transit organizations, and the airport 
authorities do what they have told this committee they will do: deliver 
jobs, half of that funding in the first 90 days. And we will hold 
hearings every 30 days with reports, according to a schedule we've laid 
out for the State agencies, on delivery of those jobs putting the money 
under contract.
  The Portland Cement Association testified before our committee in 
January saying 45 companies had 130 million metric tons of Portland 
cement produced and invested in the marketplace in 2007. Last year it 
was 95 million metric tons. For this year they project 9 million metric 
tons. They can ramp up to over 90 million metric tons of cement 
produced for ready-mix concrete to put people to work in the 
marketplace.
  In the transit sector, over 5,500 options are now on call for the 
producers who can go from their now 5,000 to over 7,000 transit 
vehicles ramping up in 30 days. I've been to one of the transit 
producers in this country, they are ready to move.
  And 82 percent of their purchases are U.S. suppliers, all final 
manufacturers in the United States, and all steel. All cement in our 
surface transportation program will be made in America, produced in 
America, invested in America.
  We can do this. We will put people to work. We will oversee the 
implementation of this program, and we will put that on our Web site so 
the American people will know that this program is working.
  Madam Speaker, I am pleased to rise in strong support of the 
Conference Report on H.R. 1, the ``American Recovery and Reinvestment 
Act of 2009''.
  According to the employment statistics released by the Department of 
Labor last week, as of January 2009, there are 11.6 million unemployed 
persons in the U.S., for all sectors of the economy combined. In 
addition, when part-time and discouraged workers who want full-time 
jobs are included, the number of unemployed/under-employed workers 
increases to 22.3 million.
  The construction sector has been particularly hard-hit--it has the 
highest unemployment rate (18.2 percent) of any industrial sector. As 
of January 2009, there were 1,744,000 unemployed construction workers 
in the nation.
  This bill is urgently needed to put Americans back to work. The 
infrastructure investments funded by this bill will create good, 
family-wage jobs--jobs that cannot be outsourced to another country, 
because the work must be done here in the U.S. on our roads, bridges, 
transit and rail systems, airports, waterways, wastewater treatment 
facilities, and Federal buildings.
  For more than a year now, I have worked to ensure that infrastructure 
investment plays a key role in our nation's economic recovery.
  I thank Chairman Obey for working so closely with me in this effort. 
We consulted extensively on the transportation and infrastructure 
provisions in the bill. Through his efforts and those of his staff, we 
were able to retain many of the good provisions in the House bill that 
were not in the Senate bill, and to develop good compromises where the 
bills differed. I particularly appreciate the hard work of Beverly 
Pheto, Staff Director, and Kate Hallahan and David Napoliello of the 
Transportation Subcommittee.
  The legislation before us today does not include everything I had 
proposed. While I would have preferred increased funding levels, and 
tighter use-it-or-lose-it deadlines, I do not intend to let ``perfect'' 
become the enemy of ``good''.
  This is a ``good'' bill. It is desperately needed by the American 
people, and it deserves our support.
  This bill provides $64.1 billion for Transportation and 
Infrastructure Committee infrastructure investments. This funding will 
create or sustain 1.8 million jobs and generate $322 billion of 
economic activity. It will get construction workers off the bench and 
back on the job.
  To ensure that the purpose of this legislation is achieved, the 
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure will exercise vigorous 
oversight over the economic recovery funds within its jurisdiction. 
Federal agencies and grant recipients within our Committee's 
jurisdiction must understand that ``business as usual'' is not good 
enough anymore, and they will be held accountable to a high standard. 
We will insist that States, cities, and transit agencies live up to 
their assurances that they will be able to have contracts in place in 
90 days for a substantial portion of the funding authorized by this 
bill. We will insist that projects under this bill be new projects, not 
simply replacements for projects which States were planning to carry 
out under existing programs. We will insist that Federal agencies 
expedite the process of approving projects and awarding grants.
  With aggressive action by Federal agencies and grant recipients, the 
infrastructure funds provided by this bill can produce a substantial 
number of jobs by June, while also improving our deteriorating 
infrastructure and laying the foundation for our future economic 
growth.
  I thank Speaker Pelosi, Chairman Obey, Chairman of the Committee on 
Appropriations, Chairman Olver, Chairman of the Subcommittee on 
Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Independent 
Agencies, and our colleagues for working with me and other Members of 
the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure throughout the 
development of this legislation.
  I strongly urge my colleagues to join me in supporting the Conference 
Report on H.R. 1, a true investment in America's future.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time I am happy to yield 1 minute 
to our hardworking new colleague from Tequesta, Florida (Mr. Rooney).
  Mr. ROONEY. Madam Speaker, I can't tell you how disappointed I am as 
a new Member of this body as to the process that we are deliberating 
here today having only received this bill late last night and now we 
are voting on it today. What happened to the open and transparent 
Congress that I promised my constituents and that the President asked 
us to do when I was elected here not too long ago? The Democrats say 
that there has been transparency, but we know that this is not true.
  What about the backroom deals? What about reaching across party 
lines? The minority has been left out of the discussion, and the people 
of my district expect and deserve better. I cannot vote for such a 
large bill that levies our economic future on the backs of my children.
  Where is the help for more take-home pay for Martin County? Thirteen 
dollars a week? Where is the foreclosure relief for St. Lucie County? 
It's been cut in half. And what about jobs? I couldn't find one 
specific job for St. Lucie County which unemployment rates are now 
rivaling Detroit, Michigan.
  The majority says it's their plan or nothing, and we are the party of 
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But we had a plan. It was a good plan. And I sincerely hope in the 
future we will be able to work together as the people expect us to do.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, at this time I would yield 4 minutes 
to the gentleman from California, the chairman of Education and Labor, 
Mr. Miller.
  Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Madam Speaker and Members of the 
House, we all know, and the people know, that the American economy is 
in a crisis. It's not that this bill in and of itself will fix the 
American economy, but this bill takes a major step to fill in the huge 
gap, and that is the loss of spending at the local level among our 
school districts, our water districts, our cities, our counties, and 
our States. Why is that happening? Because they're hemorrhaging a huge 
loss. And over the next couple of years, over $2 trillion will be 
missing in economic activity. This is a bill that's designed to 
stimulate those local economies.
  In the education area, there's $56 billion that's available to local 
school districts for the rehabilitation, the repair, and the renovation 
of school buildings so that children will go to school in safe, well-
lighted, modern facilities so that they will be green. They can put in 
new heating, new air conditioning systems, $600 million for new 
technologies so every school in this country will be connected to the 
best technology in the world. They will be able to engage in 
curriculums that now are impossible for them. They can have modern 
labs. That's the promise of America in this.
  And who will do those jobs? Local contractors, heating contractors, 
electricians, plumbing contractors, building contractors from our local 
communities who will hire other people in our local communities. That's 
what will happen with this legislation. That's the promise of this 
legislation.
  It will help school districts from keeping to lay off teachers. In 
the matter of a few weeks, California will start issuing its advanced 
pink slips. Hundreds of thousands of teachers across this nation will 
be in this same situation. Now, school districts will know that they're 
going to get $13 billion in title I in IDA money that will help them 
reduce the number of people who will be unemployed if we do nothing.
  If we do nothing, unemployment will continue, and we know that it 
will continue for the next few months. But we're trying to mitigate 
against the increased unemployment through school construction, through 
highway construction, making sure the students can stay in college as 
their families are under pressure because of the loss of jobs, the 
diminished work hours, the loss of pay. We want to make sure that they 
can stay there so we provide an additional increase in the Pell Grant.
  This is very important to this Nation. It's very important to our 
students, and it's very important that we have an opportunity to create 
in this economic crisis a 21st century education plan.
  You know, it's just amazing. We always hear that history repeats, and 
here we see it again. And if you go back and you look at Arthur 
Schlesinger's study of the failures of the Hoover administration 
leading up to the elected of 1932, this book, ``Crisis of Old Order,'' 
we see that today, history is repeating itself.
  Today, when this country cries out to help this economy, to help 
America's families who are unemployed, who are losing income, who are 
losing jobs, President Obama stepped forth with the American Recovery 
Act. The Republicans stepped forth with saying ``no.'' That was 
reflected when Minority Leader John Boehner gave instructions to his 
colleagues to oppose the bill. Even as President Obama was traveling 
the Hill to meet with them and discuss this bill with them, they 
decided in advance of that meeting they would say ``no.''
  Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia has said that ``no'' is going 
to be the Republican strategy on this economic crises. ``No'' is going 
to be their strategy, he said.
  The Republican national spokesman of late, radio host Rush Limbaugh, 
added that ``no'' is the strategy by asserting on the air that he wants 
President Obama to fail. Does he understand if President Obama fails 
that the American families lose income, they lose their jobs, and the 
crisis continues? And here we see the repeating of ``no.''
  It was President Hoover in the midst of the Depression with his 
policy that the Federal Government could do nothing to help this 
Nation, and he was so wrong. He asked Will Rogers to think up a joke 
that would stop hoarding by the American public. He asked Rudy Vallee, 
Can you sing a song that would make people forget the Depression? I 
will give you a medal. He asked Christopher Morley, Perhaps what this 
country needs is a poem.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I yield the gentleman 30 seconds.
  Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. This economic crisis will not be 
solved by a song, a poem, or a good joke. It will be solved by this 
Congress going to work with this new President to meet this crisis head 
on. It will be solved when we provide jobs in this country, when we 
free up the credit markets, when we force the banks to lend as they 
should be doing, and we provide this stimulus bill.
  All Members of Congress should be very proud to vote ``aye'' on this 
legislation and yield to the cries and the needs of American families 
and workers.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, we share the goal of getting our economy 
back on track. One of the most compelling stories came from a town hall 
meeting in the hometown of our great friend, the distinguished chair of 
the Republican Conference, the gentleman from Columbus, Indiana (Mr. 
Pence). I yield him 3 minutes.
  Mr. PENCE. I thank the gentleman for yielding and for his kind 
remarks.
  The American people know and House Republicans know our Nation is 
facing a serious recession. American families are hurting. Many have 
lost their jobs. Many million more are worried they will be next. House 
Republicans know that Congress must do something. But it's important 
that we do the right thing.
  As this debate begins today, we just heard moments ago from a 
distinguished colleague and others that somehow Republicans are about 
saying ``no.'' Well, let me say with great respect to the gentleman, 
this is not about saying ``no.'' This is about saying ``yes'' to 
solutions that will put Americans back to work.
  Republicans have brought forward such solutions built on the time 
honored experience of President John F. Kennedy, of President Ronald 
Reagan, and the experience of this Nation with the impending recession 
that followed September 11. We didn't go on a spending spree on Capitol 
Hill. We didn't offer Americans a $13-a-person tax cut. John F. 
Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and this Congress and this government after 
September 11, under George W. Bush, cut taxes across the board for 
working families, small businesses, and family farms; and the economy 
grew.
  But what has the majority brought to the floor today? The truth is 
this stimulus bill will do nothing to stimulate this economy in the 
long term. The only thing the Democrats' stimulus bill will do is 
stimulate more government and more debt.
  The American people are asking, what's 13 bucks a week going to do to 
get this economy moving again for the average American? What's $2 
billion for community organizing to organizations like ACORN going to 
do to get Americans from the unemployment line to the factory line or 
millions to begin rationing health care or to purchase green golf carts 
going to do to put families back to work in Indiana?
  As the gentleman said, I had a town hall meeting Monday, myself, in 
Indiana. A 13-year-old girl stood up, told me that her dad, raising her 
and her sister, alone as a single parent had lost half of his hours at 
work. He'd gone from 40 hours to 24 hours. And she stood up bravely in 
front of 300 Hoosiers, and she said, Anything in that bill, 
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at little Hillary, congratulated her for her courage, and I said, 
Hillary, because I can't answer ``yes'' to your question that there is 
anything in this bill that's going to help get your dad back to full 
time, I can't vote ``yes'' on this bill. And the 300 Hoosiers in that 
room exploded in agreeing applause.
  The American people know what's going on here. The American people 
know that this administration and this Congress are about to pass a 
bill that will not grow our economy. It will merely grow our 
government. We can do better. We must do better. This Congress owes the 
American people no less.

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  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, how much time does each side have 
remaining?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Perlmutter) 
has 7\3/4\ minutes remaining, and the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Dreier) has 11\3/4\ minutes remaining.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I reserve my time so we can kind of even up.
  Mr. DREIER. At this time, Madam Speaker, I'd like to yield 2 minutes 
to our very dynamic new member of the Rules Committee, the gentlewoman 
from Grandfather Community, North Carolina (Ms. Foxx).
  Ms. FOXX. I thank my colleague for yielding me time, Madam Speaker.
  I'm highly insulted by the comments of the Deputy Attorney General 
from California that were shared with us a few minutes ago. As a 
lifetime farmer and a representative of many farmers, this is another 
indication of the atmosphere of arrogance within the majority party. 
It's an arrogance also expressed here this morning that only the 
President of this country can save us. Well, thank you very much, the 
American people have done very well by themselves over the last 200-
plus years, and we haven't needed any President to save us.
  The majority says saying ``no'' is easy. Republicans aren't saying 
``no'' to the needs of the American people. We have a better 
alternative that's not being considered. For the majority, spending 
other people's money is easy. That's what this bill does. It's 
generational abuse.
  Last night, Mr. Obey said that the bill had been worked out with the 
White House. So I asked him to show us the accountability the 
President's been promising, show me how the spending leads to job 
creation section by section. He could not. I ask you, where's the beef?
  Then he said, it's irrelevant what we think about this bill. The 
first article in the Constitution is about the Congress. It's not 
irrelevant what we think about this bill. My constituents don't like 
this bill. I don't like the bill.
  I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the rule, vote ``no'' on the 
bill and say to the majority, we're not going to take your arrogance 
and we are not going to take your stealing the money from us, our 
children and our grandchildren.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I continue to reserve.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I was just congratulating Ms. Foxx on her 
thoughtful statement. At this time, I'm happy to yield 2 minutes to our 
good friend from Westminster, South Carolina (Mr. Barrett).
  Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to 
the rule to this conference report between Democrats to H.R. 1. This 
backroom-written Democrat spending bill costs too much money, doesn't 
fix the problem fast enough, and fails to make enough good jobs.
  In the long run, Madam Speaker, this bill will cost working families 
over $1 trillion. After today, each American household will owe 
$100,000 to pay for government debt. What's even scarier, in this 
conference report Democrats took what little bit of tax relief was in 
there away from families and small businesses so they could increase 
spending on pet projects like $50 million to the National Endowment of 
the Arts and $300 million for green golf carts.
  The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that less than half the 
money in the Democrat stimulus plan will be spent in the next 2 years. 
Madam Speaker, folks in South Carolina and across this country are 
losing their jobs today. American families are struggling to make ends 
meet and cannot afford to wait 2 years to see a potential improvement 
in their economy.
  The real problem, Madam Speaker, is Democrats have lost their faith 
in the American people. They don't see what I see. I look at the people 
back home in South Carolina, and I know that they are the key to moving 
America forward. The barbershop on the corner, the hardware store down 
the street, they're the driving force of the economy, not the 
bureaucrats in Washington.
  And it's because of my faith in the American people that I support 
the House Republican economy recovery plan. This plan allows small 
businesses, the heart and soul of our economy, to take a tax deduction 
equal to 20 percent of their income, a deduction that will allow small 
businesses to hire new employees, to grow. In South Carolina, this plan 
will create 34,000 jobs more than the Democrat plan and will cost half.
  It's my sincere hope that the spending bill fails, and we in Congress 
can debate a bill that won't put a crushing burden on our children, 
won't take 2 years to work, and will rely on our small businesses. Vote 
``no'' on this plan.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I'd like, Madam Speaker, to yield 1 minute to my 
friend from New York, Mr. Bishop.
  Mr. BISHOP of New York. Madam Speaker, let me start by taking this 
opportunity to commend both the House and Senate conferees on crafting 
this compromise legislation that will create and preserve nearly 3.5 
million jobs here in America and will set our Nation on a course toward 
economic recovery.
  It is imperative that we plug the holes in our job market that lost 
600,000 jobs last month alone, and these holes will not be plugged by a 
strategy of saying ``no'' nor will they be plugged by a strategy of 
returning to the failed policies of the past, which is all our friends 
on the other side of the aisle are offering.
  Through investing in our infrastructure and investment in our 
children's education and preserving the ability of our States to 
provide essential services, this bill will create jobs for millions of 
Americans, even as we better prepare the next generation for the 
challenges they will face.
  Madam Speaker, I look forward to working with my colleagues on both 
sides of the aisle to ensure that this historic effort will return our 
Nation to economic prosperity and provide hope to the millions who have 
suffered as a result of the failed policies of the past.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time, I'm happy to yield 1 minute 
to a former Rules Committee member, the gentleman from Marietta, 
Georgia (Mr. Gingrey).
  Mr. GINGREY of Georgia. Madam Speaker, I had some prepared remarks, 
but I'm going to set those aside because I saw an article this morning 
in The Hill newspaper by Cheri Jacobus, and I think it says it all and 
I want to quote an excerpt.
  ``Congress should throw this greasy pile of pork into the grinder. 
Instead, give every American household a $10,000 stimulus check to 
spend as we please. With approximately 100 million households 
nationwide, we hit that magic number of $1 trillion. This, along with a 
2-year moratorium on capital gains taxes, will get the economy off life 
support.
  ``Instead of condoms, green golf carts, mouse habitats and 
government-run health care, Americans would spend based on individual 
priorities, thus spurring competition, resulting in higher-quality 
goods and services. Good banks succeed; bad banks fail. Well-priced, 
quality automobiles hit the streets; lemons fade away. Capitalism lives 
to fight another day and the greatest country on Earth narrowly 
survives its near-death experience with socialism.''
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. At this time, Madam Speaker, I'd like to yield 1\1/2\ 
minutes to the gentlewoman from California, Ms. Barbara Lee.

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  Ms. LEE of California. Madam Speaker, let me thank the gentleman for 
yielding and applaud our Speaker and President Obama and our leadership 
for a fair and balanced bill.
  The disastrous economic policies of the previous administration, 
including the irresponsible tax cuts for the wealthy, the war in Iraq 
and a regulated financial services industry, have left our Nation in 
shambles. Many more people, millions more, are living in poverty, 
without health insurance, and unemployment is through the roof.
  Recognizing this urgency, I established the Congressional Black 
Caucus Economic Recovery Task Force, chaired by Congressman Cleaver, to 
help guide our response to the economic crisis.
  Historically, the role of the Congressional Black Caucus has been to 
act as the conscience of the Congress and ensure that no American is 
left behind. This is our moral responsibility. That was our overriding 
goal with this bill, as we sought to create more jobs for more people.
  This package will help working families by expanding food stamps, 
unemployment insurance, and health coverage for the uninsured, and 
investing in education and job training, infrastructure, foreclosure 
relief, and assistance.
  It's not perfect. It should have been much, much bigger, but it's a 
critical first step. It reflects our values as a Nation.
  Although the American dream has turned into a nightmare for many 
during this economic crisis, many people, many people have been living 
this nightmare for years. So we've got to continue to fight on their 
behalf, and we will.
  I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time, I'm happy to yield 1 minute 
to our good friend from Roswell, Georgia (Mr. Price).
  Mr. PRICE of Georgia. I appreciate my friend for yielding.
  Madam Speaker, you really can't be serious. You can't be serious. 
This would be humorous if it wasn't so sad. Got this at 11 o'clock last 
night, over 1,000 pages. What's in it? Have you read it? We found $30 
million for mice. Got $30 million for mice. You can't be serious. What 
a joke. $30 million for mice. Does that create jobs?
  Imagine what we could do with $30 million, Madam Speaker. Imagine 
what we could do with $1 trillion, Madam Speaker, if we worked together 
for real solutions.
  We understand that people are hurting, but this majority is only 
interested in paying off and buying political friends like $2 billion 
for ACORN and $300 million for golf carts for bureaucrats. What a joke.
  But the American people aren't laughing. This bill is selfish because 
it robs from future generations. It's irresponsible because it won't 
work. What a joke. The American people aren't laughing.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman 
from Texas, Ms. Sheila Jackson-Lee, and as she's getting ready, I would 
say to my friend, Dr. Price from Georgia, there's not anything in that 
bill about mice, $30 million for mice. We talked about it yesterday. 
It's not in there, and I challenge him.


                Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend.
  The Chair will ask Members to refrain from interrupting another in 
debate after that Member has expressed a refusal to yield.
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Let me thank the distinguished gentleman 
from Colorado and the Rules Committee for the heavy lifting, along with 
the Appropriations Committee and Financial Services Committee, and all 
of those who have joined the leadership in this heavy responsibility of 
governance.
  I'm proud to be part of the governing party, if you will, the 
Democratic caucus that has the responsibility of leading this Nation, 
and we accept the burden and responsibility of making sure that there 
is a credible answer to America's problems.
  Someone needs to talk to the unemployed construction worker or the 
young woman laid off in the retail industry or retiree who wants to 
come back to work. This bill is a responsible bill, $64 billion in 
transportation and infrastructure, 1.8 million jobs; the construction 
worker back to work; $800 payment for a couple, $400 payment for a 
single person. It's not $13 a week, as they'd like to say. It's a lump 
sum that people are desperately in need of.
  This is an important and responsible act. We're putting together in 
my office task forces to ensure that Houston communities get this 
relief. It's important to vote for this bill. America needs this bill. 
It's time to answer the call of America. I support the Rules Committee 
and economic recovery bill.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time, I'm happy to yield 1 minute 
to our friend from Mesa, Arizona (Mr. Flake).
  Mr. FLAKE. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  A lot has been said about the process here, and it needs to be said. 
To receive a bill that's over 1,000 pages at 11 o'clock last night and 
expect to vote on it with any knowledge of really what's in it today is 
simply absurd. So the process is wrong, but we need not lose sight of 
the broader picture here. We know enough about this legislation to know 
that it is bad legislation. First and foremost, the process is bad, but 
it's bad legislation.
  Now, some will say, well, you're just not a Keynesian, you don't 
believe in Keynesian economics. Keynes would be embarrassed by this 
legislation. If you believe in Keynesian economics, then certainly you 
would spend money in a way that stimulates the economy. I doubt that 
John Maynard Keynes would believe that $50 million for the National 
Endowment for the Arts would be stimulative. All that it stimulates is 
more spending later.
  And the problem here is we're creating hundreds of new Federal 
programs that will continue in perpetuity, that will become a drag on 
the economy, not bolster it.
  Vote against this legislation.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I'd like to yield 1 minute to my friend from Georgia 
(Mr. Scott).
  Mr. SCOTT of Georgia. Thank you very much.
  Madam Speaker, this is no joke. To my friends on the other side of 
this aisle, this is a very serious matter. We've lost 3,673,000 jobs in 
the last year alone. Madam Speaker, that is 10,000 jobs every day.
  Now, what we have here is plain and simple. Our economy has leaks and 
holes in it all throughout. That's why you've got 1,000 pages there 
because it's big. Our economy is big.
  You say you haven't read it. I would say you have read it. You've 
come down here and poked holes about it, said this is what's wrong with 
it and that's what's wrong with it. How do you know that if you haven't 
read it?

                              {time}  1030

  The other point is this, Madam Speaker: last November the people of 
the United States made a decision and that decision was to put Barack 
Obama as President, because they wanted a new direction. He has 
pleaded, he has cajoled, he's gone all across this country asking for 
help. I say, Madam Speaker, let us give him the help, let us come 
together, and let us go ahead and pass this bill without delay. The 
American people are counting on us.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman from Georgia has 
expired.
  Mr. DREIER. Will the gentleman yield?
  I would yield my friend 30 seconds. Has his time expired, Madam 
Speaker?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds to simply say to 
my friend, who unfortunately wouldn't yield, we do have a thousand 
pages here. This was put online after midnight. We all voted in favor 
of 48 hours--you voted in favor of 48 hours--to allow the American 
people and our colleagues to see this. We all understand the urgency of 
this matter. Has my colleague read this? Many of us have been trying to 
go through it since after midnight in the Rules Committee.

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  Mr. SCOTT of Georgia. I was up until 3 o'clock this morning reading 
it. If you had done this, Mr. Dreier, you were here debating it last 
week----
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend.
  Mr. DREIER. Two-and-a-half hours, and you went through a thousand 
pages.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time I am happy to yield----
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend.
  The time of the gentleman has expired.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I would like to inquire how much time remains, Madam 
Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Colorado has 3 minutes 
remaining. The gentleman from California has 4\1/2\ minutes remaining.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time I am happy to yield 1 minute 
to a former Rules Committee member, one of our new appropriators, the 
gentleman from Moore, Oklahoma (Mr. Cole).
  Mr. COLE. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  Madam Speaker, I rise to oppose the rule and the underlying 
legislation, H.R. 1. This underlying bill is unfocused, it's bloated, 
and it's self-defeating. It won't stimulate our economy. It will 
certainly stimulate growth in the size of government.
  The bill fails in four basic areas:
  First, its tax cuts are too small, too temporary and simply don't 
encourage people to purchase products or employers to hire people.
  Second, much of the spending in the bill is recurring and will add to 
the size of government and ultimately slow future growth.
  Third, our country is at war and yet nothing in this bill helps those 
protecting our freedom. And by ignoring legitimate procurement issues, 
we fail to take a measure that would actually stimulate the economy.
  Finally, Madam Speaker, this bill is sold as an infrastructure bill, 
yet only 7 percent of the spending is actually on infrastructure. We 
can do better than this. We can have a bipartisan, open process and 
pass legislation we can all be proud of.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I would like to yield 1 minute to my friend from Ohio 
(Mr. Boccieri).
  Mr. BOCCIERI. Madam Speaker, the United States of America is in a 
great recession and we will be judged as a United States Government by 
two measures--by action or inaction.
  And I tell my friends on the other side of the aisle who are not 
going to vote for this measure today, you are walking away from America 
and Americans in her greatest time of need. I remember as a C-130 pilot 
flying missions in and out of Iraq how much money we were spending over 
there to rebuild roads and bridges in Iraq and to make sure every man, 
woman and child in Iraq had universal health care coverage. You didn't 
bat an eye to vote for them. You didn't bat an eye to bail out $700 
billion for Wall Street. This is about investing in America and 
Americans in their greatest time of need. We have to be measured by 
what we're going to do. Are we going to be leaders or are we going to 
be blockers? Are we going to act or are we not? Are we going to vote 
for Iraqis or Americans?


                Announcement By the Speaker Pro Tempore

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Members seated in the Chamber will refrain 
from shouting interjections out during debate, and Members should 
address their remarks to the Chair.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, at this time I am happy to yield a minute 
to my good friend from Tyler, Texas (Mr. Gohmert).
  Mr. GOHMERT. Madam Speaker, this rule is so cynical. The biggest 
spending bill in the history of the world and the rule says we can't 
even have the bill read out loud here on the floor so the American 
people really know what we're doing to future generations.
  And to hear my colleagues across the aisle, Madam Speaker, talk about 
the jobs, 600,000 jobs being lost in the last month, it breaks my heart 
for every job. We lost 1200 in east Texas yesterday. Why? Because the 
hope and the change that people voted for in the President has come to 
doom and gloom. They have held on to avoid letting their workers go, 
but now for the last month they've heard the Democratic proposals and 
what they see is no hope. There's no hope left in this bill. It's not 
going to help the economy, so they're having to let their workers go. 
We say yes to the American people. We say no to the atmosphere of 
arrogance that says the American people are not the solution. They are 
the solution. Give them a tax holiday. Let them keep their own money 
and spend it to get the economy going. That's yes to America. That's 
yes to the American solution.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I would like to yield 30 seconds to 
the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Fattah).
  Mr. FATTAH. This is going to be a clear point of demarcation. Eight 
years of the Bush administration and we lost millions of jobs. Millions 
of Americans lost their homes, lost their investments. Our schools 
crumbled. And now as we launch into these 4 and 8 years, we're going to 
see schools rebuilt, millions put to work, we're going to see the 
economy turn around, and it starts today.
  Now in '93 when we had the Clinton economic plan, not one Republican 
voted for it in the House or Senate. But we did get 27 million new 
jobs, we did balance the budget, and pay down the national debt. 
History has a way of repeating itself.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I would like to yield at this point 30 
seconds to our good friend from Texas, distinguished secretary of the 
Republican Conference, Mr. Carter.
  Mr. CARTER. I thank the gentleman.
  The President told us that this bill was not going to have any 
earmarks in it and if it was, he was going to do something about it and 
I'm proud of him.
  I'm concerned about an earmark. An earmark is a Member-directed 
initiative. We have an earmark for a train from Las Vegas to 
California. That seems to be one of the earmarks we had. I'm not sure 
in this 25 feet high bill we've got here that we've still got the 
mouse, but we had a $30 million earmark for a mouse in California.
  I hope you'll veto this bill.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, how much time do we each have?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Colorado has 1\1/2\ 
minutes remaining. The gentleman from California has 2 minutes 
remaining.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, I would like to reserve the balance of 
my time for closing.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized for 2 minutes.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I began by reporting to the House of the 
sad news that I received yesterday when a man telephoned me to say that 
his young son's best friend's father had just committed suicide because 
of the economic difficulty their family was facing. We all know how 
serious this situation is. We have friends who have lost homes, people 
who have lost jobs, and we all know that it is imperative that we take 
action and that we take action now, and most important, Madam Speaker, 
that we do the right thing.
  Now I'm going to urge my colleagues to oppose the previous question 
on this measure. Why? So that we can do what every single Member of 
this institution on a unanimous recorded vote said they wanted to do on 
Tuesday, and, that is, say that 48 hours should be provided for Members 
to look at this bill. The Rules Committee got this package very late 
last night, around midnight. We were told at that time just before 
midnight that it was online, available for the American people to see, 
and, Madam Speaker, it was not. Three sections were missing. Not until 
well after midnight was this made available. And so any Member who cast 
a vote in favor of allowing 48 hours for this measure to be considered 
should vote no on the previous question so that we will provide an 
amendment to allow for what

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everyone said they wanted to in fact take place.
  This measure is, as has been reported, a thousand pages, and no one 
knows what it's going to do, including our friend the chairman of the 
Appropriations Committee who in his testimony last night before the 
Rules Committee said he had no idea how many jobs would be created. He 
had no idea how many jobs would be created, but we have to take action. 
And, Madam Speaker, we can take action by putting into place a growth-
oriented tax package which will in fact get our economy back on track.
  I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the previous question.
  Mr. PERLMUTTER. Madam Speaker, my friend from California's story 
about the gentleman who committed suicide underscores the urgency of 
this matter. This is not a time for delay. This is not a time for 
inaction. It is a time for action. The President has requested this 
bill get passed to put America back to work. This bill will maintain or 
create 3.6 million jobs. We've lost hundreds of thousands of jobs over 
the course of the last few months. We need to stop that downward spiral 
and this will do that. It has five major components. First there's 
construction and reconstruction of our infrastructure. Current jobs, 
long-term investment. A look to the new energy future, new jobs in 
science and technology, in health care and in energy. It gives our 
States a chance to stay on their feet by backfilling some of their 
losses for teachers and firefighters and policemen and maintenance 
workers. There is a tax cut for 95 percent of America in this bill. 
Finally, there is a piece that helps those folks who have been hurt by 
this downturn with Medicaid and food stamps and unemployment insurance.
  This bill is a fantastic step forward. There will be a series of 
steps that have to be taken and it will take time. But we have faith in 
the American people. We have faith in this country. We are going to 
change the direction of this Nation and put 3.5 million people back to 
work.
  I urge a ``yes'' vote on the previous question.
  The material previously referred to by Mr. Dreier is as follows:

      Amendment to H. Res. 168 Offered by Mr. Dreier of California

       Strike ``upon adoption of this resolution'' and insert 
     ``not sooner than 10:45 p.m. on the calendar day of February 
     14, 2009''.
                                  ____

       (The information contained herein was provided by 
     Democratic Minority on multiple occasions throughout the 
     109th Congress.)

        The Vote on the Previous Question: What It Really Means

       This vote, the vote on whether to order the previous 
     question on a special rule, is not merely a procedural vote. 
     A vote against ordering the previous question is a vote 
     against the Democratic majority agenda and a vote to allow 
     the opposition, at least for the moment, to offer an 
     alternative plan. It is a vote about what the House should be 
     debating.
       Mr. Clarence Cannon's Precedents of the House of 
     Representatives, (VI, 308-311) describes the vote on the 
     previous question on the rule as ``a motion to direct or 
     control the consideration of the subject before the House 
     being made by the Member in charge.'' To defeat the previous 
     question is to give the opposition a chance to decide the 
     subject before the House. Cannon cites the Speaker's ruling 
     of January 13, 1920, to the effect that ``the refusal of the 
     House to sustain the demand for the previous question passes 
     the control of the resolution to the opposition'' in order to 
     offer an amendment. On March 15, 1909, a member of the 
     majority party offered a rule resolution. The House defeated 
     the previous question and a member of the opposition rose to 
     a parliamentary inquiry, asking who was entitled to 
     recognition. Speaker Joseph G. Cannon (R-Illinois) said: 
     ``The previous question having been refused, the gentleman 
     from New York, Mr. Fitzgerald, who had asked the gentleman to 
     yield to him for an amendment, is entitled to the first 
     recognition.''
       Because the vote today may look bad for the Democratic 
     majority they will say ``the vote on the previous question is 
     simply a vote on whether to proceed to an immediate vote on 
     adopting the resolution . . . [and] has no substantive 
     legislative or policy implications whatsoever.'' But that is 
     not what they have always said. Listen to the definition of 
     the previous question used in the Floor Procedures Manual 
     published by the Rules Committee in the 109th Congress, (page 
     56). Here's how the Rules Committee described the rule using 
     information from Congressional Quarterly's ``American 
     Congressional Dictionary'': ``If the previous question is 
     defeated, control of debate shifts to the leading opposition 
     member (usually the minority Floor Manager) who then manages 
     an hour of debate and may offer a germane amendment to the 
     pending business.''
       Deschler's Procedure in the U.S. House of Representatives, 
     the subchapter titled ``Amending Special Rules'' states: ``a 
     refusal to order the previous question on such a rule [a 
     special rule reported from the Committee on Rules] opens the 
     resolution to amendment and further debate.'' (Chapter 21, 
     section 21.2) Section 21.3 continues: Upon rejection of the 
     motion for the previous question on a resolution reported 
     from the Committee on Rules, control shifts to the Member 
     leading the opposition to the previous question, who may 
     offer a proper amendment or motion and who controls the time 
     for debate thereon.''
       Clearly, the vote on the previous question on a rule does 
     have substantive policy implications. It is one of the only 
     available tools for those who oppose the Democratic 
     majority's agenda and allows those with alternative views the 
     opportunity to offer an alternative plan.

  Mr. PERLMUTTER. I yield the back the balance of my time, and I move 
the previous question on the resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous 
question.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair 
will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on 
the question of adoption.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 234, 
nays 194, not voting 4, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 66]

                               YEAS--234

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Adler (NJ)
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Barrow
     Bean
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Boccieri
     Boren
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Brady (PA)
     Braley (IA)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carson (IN)
     Castor (FL)
     Chandler
     Clarke
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Cohen
     Connolly (VA)
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Courtney
     Crowley
     Cuellar
     Cummings
     Dahlkemper
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis (TN)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Donnelly (IN)
     Doyle
     Driehaus
     Edwards (MD)
     Edwards (TX)
     Ellison
     Ellsworth
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Foster
     Frank (MA)
     Fudge
     Giffords
     Gonzalez
     Gordon (TN)
     Grayson
     Green, Al
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Halvorson
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Heinrich
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Himes
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hirono
     Hodes
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Johnson (GA)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick (MI)
     Kind
     Kirkpatrick (AZ)
     Kissell
     Klein (FL)
     Kosmas
     Kucinich
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee (CA)
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lujan
     Lynch
     Maffei
     Maloney
     Markey (CO)
     Markey (MA)
     Massa
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McMahon
     McNerney
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Melancon
     Michaud
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murtha
     Nadler (NY)
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor (AZ)
     Payne
     Perlmutter
     Peters
     Peterson
     Pingree (ME)
     Polis (CO)
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Ross
     Rothman (NJ)
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Rush
     Ryan (OH)
     Salazar
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Schakowsky
     Schauer
     Schiff
     Schrader
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sestak
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stupak
     Sutton
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Teague
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Titus
     Tonko
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walz
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch
     Wexler
     Wilson (OH)
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth

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                               NAYS--194

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Altmire
     Austria
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Barrett (SC)
     Bartlett
     Barton (TX)
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Boustany
     Boyd
     Brady (TX)
     Bright
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp
     Cantor
     Cao
     Capito
     Carney
     Carter
     Cassidy
     Castle
     Chaffetz
     Childers
     Coble
     Coffman (CO)
     Cole
     Conaway
     Crenshaw
     Culberson
     Davis (KY)
     Deal (GA)
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     Fallin
     Flake
     Fleming
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Gingrey (GA)
     Gohmert
     Goodlatte
     Granger
     Graves
     Griffith
     Guthrie
     Hall (TX)
     Harper
     Hastings (WA)
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Hill
     Hoekstra
     Hunter
     Inglis
     Issa
     Jenkins
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Jordan (OH)
     Kilroy
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Kline (MN)
     Kratovil
     Lamborn
     Lance
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lewis (CA)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Luetkemeyer
     Lummis
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Mack
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Marshall
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCaul
     McClintock
     McCotter
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Minnick
     Mitchell
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy, Tim
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Nunes
     Nye
     Olson
     Paul
     Paulsen
     Pence
     Perriello
     Petri
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe (TX)
     Posey
     Price (GA)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Roe (TN)
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Rooney
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Scalise
     Schmidt
     Schock
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Space
     Stearns
     Sullivan
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thompson (PA)
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Upton
     Walden
     Wamp
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                             NOT VOTING--4

     Campbell
     Lee (NY)
     Solis (CA)
     Stark

                              {time}  1107

  Messrs. SHADEGG, BLUNT, MARSHALL and McINTYRE changed their vote from 
``yea'' to ``nay.''
  So the previous question was ordered.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. DREIER. Madam Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 231, 
nays 194, not voting 7, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 67]

                               YEAS--231

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Adler (NJ)
     Altmire
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Baldwin
     Barrow
     Bean
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Boccieri
     Boren
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Brady (PA)
     Braley (IA)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carson (IN)
     Castor (FL)
     Chandler
     Clarke
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Cohen
     Connolly (VA)
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Courtney
     Crowley
     Cuellar
     Cummings
     Dahlkemper
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis (TN)
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Donnelly (IN)
     Doyle
     Driehaus
     Edwards (MD)
     Edwards (TX)
     Ellison
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Foster
     Frank (MA)
     Fudge
     Gonzalez
     Gordon (TN)
     Grayson
     Green, Al
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Halvorson
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Heinrich
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Himes
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hirono
     Hodes
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Johnson (GA)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick (MI)
     Kilroy
     Kind
     Kissell
     Klein (FL)
     Kosmas
     Kucinich
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee (CA)
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lujan
     Lynch
     Maffei
     Maloney
     Markey (CO)
     Markey (MA)
     Massa
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McMahon
     McNerney
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murtha
     Nadler (NY)
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor (AZ)
     Payne
     Perlmutter
     Perriello
     Peters
     Peterson
     Pingree (ME)
     Polis (CO)
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Ross
     Rothman (NJ)
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Rush
     Ryan (OH)
     Salazar
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Schakowsky
     Schauer
     Schiff
     Schrader
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sestak
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis (CA)
     Space
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stupak
     Sutton
     Tauscher
     Teague
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Titus
     Tonko
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walz
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch
     Wexler
     Wilson (OH)
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth

                               NAYS--194

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Austria
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Baird
     Barrett (SC)
     Bartlett
     Barton (TX)
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Boustany
     Boyd
     Brady (TX)
     Bright
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp
     Cantor
     Capito
     Carney
     Carter
     Cassidy
     Castle
     Chaffetz
     Childers
     Coble
     Coffman (CO)
     Cole
     Conaway
     Crenshaw
     Culberson
     Davis (KY)
     Deal (GA)
     DeFazio
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Ehlers
     Ellsworth
     Emerson
     Fallin
     Flake
     Fleming
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Giffords
     Gingrey (GA)
     Gohmert
     Goodlatte
     Granger
     Graves
     Griffith
     Guthrie
     Hall (TX)
     Harper
     Hastings (WA)
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Hill
     Hoekstra
     Hunter
     Inglis
     Issa
     Jenkins
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Jordan (OH)
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Kirkpatrick (AZ)
     Kline (MN)
     Kratovil
     Lance
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lewis (CA)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Luetkemeyer
     Lummis
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Mack
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Marshall
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCaul
     McClintock
     McCotter
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     Melancon
     Mica
     Michaud
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Minnick
     Mitchell
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy, Tim
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Nunes
     Nye
     Olson
     Paul
     Paulsen
     Pence
     Petri
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe (TX)
     Posey
     Price (GA)
     Putnam
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Roe (TN)
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Rooney
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Scalise
     Schmidt
     Schock
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Stearns
     Sullivan
     Tanner
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thompson (PA)
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Upton
     Walden
     Wamp
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                             NOT VOTING--7

     Campbell
     Cao
     Israel
     Lamborn
     Lee (NY)
     Radanovich
     Stark


                Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (during the vote). There are 2 minutes 
remaining on this vote.

                              {time}  1114

  So the resolution was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
  Stated against:
  Mr. CAO. Madam Speaker, on rollcall No. 67, I was unavoidably 
detained. Had I been present, I would have voted ``nay.''

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