[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 154 (2008), Part 11]
[House]
[Pages 15266-15274]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




          INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009

  The Committee resumed its sitting.


                 Amendment No. 5 Offered by Ms. Harman

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 5 
printed in House Report 110-759.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment No. 5 offered by Ms. Harman:
       At the end of subtitle A of title III, add the following 
     new section:

     SEC. 310. SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING THE NEED FOR A ROBUST 
                   WORKFORCE.

       It is the sense of Congress that--
       (1) a robust and highly skilled aerospace industry 
     workforce is critical to the success of intelligence 
     community programs and operations;
       (2) voluntary attrition, the retirement of many senior 
     workers, and difficulties in recruiting could leave the 
     intelligence community without access to the intellectual 
     capital and technical capabilities necessary to identify and 
     respond to potential threats; and
       (3) the Director of National Intelligence should work 
     cooperatively with other agencies of the Federal Government 
     responsible for programs related to space and the aerospace 
     industry to develop and implement policies, including those 
     with an emphasis on improving science, technology, 
     engineering, and mathematics education at all levels, to 
     sustain and expand the diverse workforce available to the 
     intelligence community.

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House Resolution 1343, the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman) and a Member opposed each will 
control 5 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from California.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the Harman-Ehlers 
amendment, and I'm pleased to be here on the House floor once again 
with my friend Vern Ehlers to call attention to a looming crisis in our 
aerospace industrial base.
  I represent the heart of the space industrial base and have long 
called my district the satellite center of the universe. Most of the 
intelligence satellites built in the United States are built in my 
district, and that is why it was such an honor to serve for 8 years on 
the Intelligence Committee and why I'm so proud of the work the 
committee is doing.
  I have always been mindful of the need for a skilled industrial base. 
Simply put, rocket scientists don't grow on trees.
  Earlier this year, on a visit to a major aerospace firm in my 
district, there was a stark reminder of the crisis facing this 
industry.

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  Following a briefing on an important satellite program, I asked if 
any of the employees in attendance had anything to tell me. A 31-year-
old engineer raised his hand and said, ``All my peers are gone.'' 
Engineers his age, he explained, are leaving the aerospace industry for 
other fields, and very few are taking their place.
  The problem is two-fold. More than 60 percent of aerospace industry 
workers are over 45, and 26 percent of them are eligible for retirement 
this year. So the result is a looming demographic cliff that leaves the 
intelligence community and the industry without the intellectual 
capital necessary to keep pace with global competitors. There are many 
reasons for this. Part of it is the training we give kids in secondary 
school. Part of it is Congress and the Department of Defense, who don't 
necessarily provide predictable funding streams.
  We saw the results of our failure in the 1990s, when we declared a 
peace dividend, cut our procurement budgets, then tried to do defense 
procurement and satellite manufacturing on the cheap, and guess what 
happened? Launch failures, performance problems, and engineers 
abandoning the industry in droves. We have finally managed to regrow 
some of these specialties just at a time when, again, because of age 
and because other careers are more sexy, we may lose these people 
forever. This will hurt our national security. And this is why our 
amendment

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 expresses the sense of Congress that a skilled workforce is essential 
to the intelligence community's success, and that the Director of 
National Intelligence should work cooperatively with other government 
agencies to sustain and expand a diverse workforce.
  Mr. Chairman, before yielding to Mr. Ehlers, I would just like to say 
that so much in the Intelligence bill before us--like multilevel 
clearances, like very sensible comments on the National Applications 
Office, like prohibiting the use of contractors for CIA detainee 
interrogations, like the requirements for more briefings for more 
Members of the Intelligence Committee--are ideas that were generated 
some years back when I had the privilege of being ranking member on the 
committee.
  The committee matters. Bipartisanship matters. I want to commend my 
coauthor for the enormous work he does on this issue.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to take the 5 
minutes in opposition to the amendment, although I will not oppose the 
amendment.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the gentleman from Michigan 
is recognized for 5 minutes.
  There was no objection.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
  Mr. Chairman, I support the amendment. I appreciate the efforts of 
the distinguished former ranking member of the committee to call 
attention to the importance of the aerospace industrial base, which is 
critical to our intelligence efforts. I applaud her work with my 
colleague from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers) in bringing this amendment 
forward.
  This amendment also further highlights the need for a comprehensive 
strategy for our Nation's intelligence overhead architecture. 
Unfortunately, I do not believe a sufficient strategy is yet in place, 
and I am concerned that the intelligence community is still not moving 
with urgency to solve this problem. We must address these issues in the 
interest of our national security, and just as importantly, to protect 
and maintain our industrial base as highlighted in this amendment.
  With that, I would yield back the remainder of my 1 minute and yield 
the remaining 4 minutes to my colleague from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers).
  Mr. EHLERS. I thank the gentleman from western Michigan for yielding 
to me. And I certainly thank the gentlewoman from California for 
offering this amendment.
  As we discussed on the floor just a few weeks ago, I managed to get a 
bill passed a couple of years ago to strengthen the aerospace industry 
workforce just in order to help NASA, because they were having so many 
retirements. Many joined their workforce in the 1960s to respond to the 
call from President John Fitzgerald Kennedy that we go to the Moon, and 
those individuals are all now retiring, and as a result we have a 
serious shortage of workers in the aerospace industry. But there are 
many other industries, including the intelligence departments of this 
government, that have a desperate need of those knowledgeable about 
aerospace and other science and mathematics areas.
  As I suspect everyone in this House knows, I've worked very hard over 
the last 15 years trying to improve the math-science education of this 
Nation. It's beginning to pay dividends. Just at lunchtime today, we 
had a very large room full of young ladies, all of high school and 
college age, interested in getting into mathematics and science, so we 
are making progress on that. But we need much more progress if we are 
going to compete with China, with India, and with other nations in 
regard to a trained, intelligent workforce.
  That's especially true, of course, in the intelligence field and in 
the NASA. We have some very skilled, very knowledgeable, very bright 
people working there, but also, we are going to be losing a number of 
them to retirement, in the last few years. We have to beef up that 
force. And so this amendment will emphasize the need that we have to 
encourage more individuals to go into science and mathematics at all 
levels, ranging from high school graduates up through Ph.Ds. And we 
definitely need to work at that as a Nation. I appreciate that the 
amendment will direct the national intelligence effort in this 
direction as well.
  So thank you again to the sponsor of the amendment for offering this. 
It is a great help to our Nation, it's a great help to the intelligence 
service, and I'm pleased to be part of it.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time is 
remaining.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman from California has 1\1/2\ 
minutes remaining.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the chairman of the 
full committee, Mr. Reyes.
  Mr. REYES. I thank the gentlelady for yielding.
  I just wanted to add my support to this amendment. This is a critical 
need that we depend on for our national security. And certainly this 
amendment highlights that we need to refocus our attention in this very 
critical area for our national security.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, in closing debate on this amendment, I 
would point out that one of the words in it, one of the things we hope 
to improve is ``diversity'' in the aerospace industrial base. This 
matters for lots of reasons. First of all, it reaches the whole talent 
pool in America, which is something we ought to be doing. But second, 
it matters because, as we've learned, to our detriment, a lot of the 
people we should be recruiting and retaining in intelligence fields, in 
aerospace and elsewhere lack the diversity necessary to penetrate the 
hard targets.
  So I would call this a win-win. If America can't produce scientists 
and engineers to protect our national security, we are at grave risk.
  I urge an ``aye'' vote for this amendment. I urge an ``aye'' vote for 
the underlying bill and salute both the chairman and ranking member for 
bringing it to the floor on a bipartisan basis.
  Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman).
  The amendment was agreed to.


                  Amendment No. 6 Offered by Mr. Kirk

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 6 
printed in House Report 110-759.
  Mr. KIRK. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment No. 6 offered by Mr. Kirk:
       At the end of subtitle A of title IV, add the following new 
     section:

     SEC. 418. NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE ON PRODUCTION AND 
                   SALE OF NARCOTICS IN SUPPORT OF INTERNATIONAL 
                   TERRORISM.

       Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of 
     this Act, the Director of National Intelligence shall submit 
     to Congress a National Intelligence Estimate on the 
     production and sale of narcotics in support of international 
     terrorism, including the support the Taliban and al Qaeda 
     receive from the sale of narcotics (particularly heroin) and 
     the shift in production from opium to hashish in Afghanistan.

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House Resolution 1343, the gentleman 
from Illinois (Mr. Kirk) and a Member opposed each will control 5 
minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Illinois.
  Mr. KIRK. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Chairman, successful counterterror campaigns teach that to win, 
you must attack both terrorists and their money.
  Through our congressional partisan lens, the Iraq war is sometimes 
described as the ``bad war'' while Afghanistan is described as the 
``good war.'' Our partisan lens does not allow us to recognize any good 
news from Iraq, and also blocks bad news from Afghanistan. But in 
Afghanistan, we see that the Taliban is back, funded by billions from 
the sale of heroin.
  Last month, security situations in Afghanistan worsened, and the 
Taliban set new records for intensity, scope and

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frequency of their attacks. The numbers of districts under stress, the 
number of district centers attacked, and the number of roadside car 
bombs and suicide bombs all dramatically increased. In total, the death 
toll in June alone numbered over 40 NATO casualties, including 27 
Americans, representing the highest number killed in any single month 
in 7 years of conflict in Afghanistan.
  According to open-source reporting on NATO-Taliban fire fights, the 
Taliban has not run out of people, ammunition or supplies. And NATO 
ground forces did not win every battle, a new and troubling 
development.
  For many years, Afghanistan has become the world's leading producer 
of heroin, responsible for roughly 92 percent of the world's supply. 
But the U.N. now reports that in 2008, Afghanistan has become the top 
producer of hashish as well. Money from heroin, and now profits from 
hashish, total hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars. In 
sum, the Taliban's drug profits may equal the operations budget of 
General McKiernan and his NATO army. This amendment will help focus the 
broader intelligence community on the clear nexus between narcotics and 
terrorism.
  The hot issue yesterday was a surge in troops to Afghanistan backed 
by both Senators Obama and McCain. I would sound a note of caution, 
though, that without aerial spraying and other counterdrug programs 
that have worked in Pakistan and Colombia, such an Afghan move would 
only accelerate violence between two now very well-funded opponents.
  To turn the rising Taliban tide, we must now effectively move against 
heroin, and now hashish, in the narcostate that is now Afghanistan. 
This amendment will commission a National Intelligence Estimate to look 
at the nexus between drug profits and terrorism.
  We all note the record of the past. In 2001, the leader of the 
Taliban, Mullah Omar, claimed to have eradicated the entire heroin crop 
of Afghanistan. That is what his PR agents wanted you to know. What 
they did not want you to know is Mullah Omar had stockpiled 300 tons of 
opium paste in warehouses south of Kandahar in an effort similar to 
what the Hunt brothers did with the silver market, trying to corner the 
market in opium and heroin.
  In 2002, after coalition troops moved to replace the Taliban plan, 
our Ambassador to Afghanistan, Zal Khalilzad, convinced the new 
President, Hamid Karzai, to be against aerial spraying, saying that it 
would recall memories of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. That 
single move crippled counternarcotic programs in that country. Without 
aerial spraying, just to spray the leader's field, as has been done in 
Pakistan and Colombia, heroin production rose from no provinces in 
2001, to 29 of 34 provinces today.
  Such a rise in drug production led to enormous profits. And when 
asked the question, who is the chief financier of the Taliban, and 
partially of al Qaeda, the leading counternarcotics adviser to 
President Hamid Karzai told me it was Haji Bashir Noorzai, the banker 
to the Taliban.
  In a very successful operation by the DEA, Haji Bashir Noorzai was 
lured first to the U.A.E., and then to New York City, where he was 
indicted in the Southern District of New York and is currently 
incarcerated. It was a great triumph for the United States, putting 
Haji Bashir Noorzai on the cover of Time magazine and underscoring the 
important contribution that the Drug Enforcement Agency can add to the 
intelligence community.
  At the time, DEA was not part of the intelligence community. By 
action of the last Congress, we brought DEA into the intelligence 
community and supplied them with new intelligence collection assets to 
operate in Afghanistan. It is because DEA is in, that with their 
intelligence, this amendment should pass.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in 
opposition to this amendment; however, I do not oppose the amendment.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the gentleman from Texas is 
recognized for 5 minutes.
  There was no objection.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Chairman, the intelligence community has devoted 
significant resources to collecting and analyzing intelligence on the 
narcotics trade and on terrorism, but it has not performed an in-depth 
analysis of the link between the two.
  In Afghanistan, the Taliban and al Qaeda have benefited from the 
greater cultivation, refinement, and trade of opium and hashish. The 
dark world of narcotics has become a funding source for terrorist 
groups in Afghanistan.
  This amendment proposes to bring together all of the intelligence 
agencies to analyze the connection between terrorists and their 
narcotics-backed funding. I value Mr. Kirk's interest in the 
narcoterrorist nexus, and therefore I support his amendment.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the 
gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Kirk).
  The question was taken; and the Acting Chairman announced that the 
ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. KIRK. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, further 
proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois 
will be postponed.


                 Amendment No. 7 offered by Mr. Hinchey

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 7 
printed in House Report 110-759.
  Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment No. 7 offered by Mr. Hinchey:
       At the end of subtitle B of tile IV, add the following new 
     section:

     SEC. 426. REPORT ON ACTIVITIES OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE 
                   AGENCY IN ARGENTINA.

       (a) In General.--Not later than 270 days after the date of 
     the enactment of this Act, the Director of the Central 
     Intelligence Agency shall submit to the appropriate 
     congressional committees a report containing the following:
       (1) A description of any information in the possession of 
     the intelligence community with respect to the following 
     events in the Republic of Argentina:
       (A) The accession to power by the Military of the Republic 
     of Argentina in 1976.
       (B) Violations of human rights committed by officers or 
     agents of the Argentine military and security forces.
       (C) Operation Condor and the fate of Argentine people 
     targeted, abducted, or killed during such Operation, 
     including Argentine children born in captivity whose status 
     remains unknown.
       (2) All information that may lead to the discovery of the 
     Argentine children born in captivity whose status remains 
     unknown.
       (3) A compilation of information referred to in paragraphs 
     (1) and (2) that has been declassified.
       (b) Update of Compilation.--Not later than one year after 
     the date on which the report required under subsection (a) is 
     submitted, and annually thereafter for three years, the 
     Director of the Central Intelligence Agency shall submit to 
     the appropriate congressional committees an update of the 
     compilation referred to in subsection (a)(3).
       (c) Form.--The report required under subsection (a) shall 
     be submitted in unclassified form, but may include a 
     classified annex.
       (d) Definition.--In this section, the term ``appropriate 
     congressional committees'' means the Permanent Select 
     Committee on Intelligence and the Committee on Appropriations 
     of the House of Representatives and the Select Committee on 
     Intelligence and the Committee on Appropriations of the 
     Senate.

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  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House Resolution 1343, the gentleman 
from New York (Mr. Hinchey) and a Member opposed each will control 5 
minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from New York.
  Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  In 1976, amidst social unrest and a deep political crisis in 
Argentina, a military coup there installed the cruelest dictatorship 
that South America has ever seen. Illegal detention, torture, and 
summary execution of dissidents became routine.
  Cross-country operations to capture and assassinate dissidents were 
organized in cooperation with Southern Cone military regimes in what is 
known as Operation Condor.

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  Over the years, as the victims of the repression increasingly went 
missing, a new tactic of the Argentine security forces, so-called, was 
revealed. It is estimated that nearly 30,000 people disappeared in 
Argentina between 1976 and 1985. Many of these victims, known as ``the 
disappeared,'' were abducted, tortured, and then dropped out into the 
ocean.
  During Operation Condor, approximately 500 Argentine women were 
abducted and systematically raped and impregnated by Argentine security 
forces. Their children were born into captivity and distributed to 
members of these Argentine security forces, while the mothers are 
believed to have been killed. The identity of only 80 of these children 
have been discovered, but the whereabouts of the majority remain 
unknown.
  My amendment seeks to shed light on the unknown fate of these 
children, who would be roughly in their late 20s or early 30s at this 
moment. The amendment would require the Central Intelligence Agency to 
report to the House and Senate Intelligence panels on information, any 
information, it has about the human rights violations of the military 
government in Argentina from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s, the rise 
to power of that government, and the location of any Argentine children 
born in captivity as a result of Operation Condor.
  The amendment also instructs the CIA to include a compilation of 
declassified documents, as well as any classified material that may 
exist with regard to this issue.
  Given the close relationship with their Argentine counterparts in the 
intelligent, security, and military community, the documentation of the 
American intelligence community is likely to contain invaluable 
information to support ongoing justice investigations and the search 
for the children of the disappeared.
  This amendment is supported by the Argentine Embassy, of course; the 
National Security Archive of George Washington University, and a wide 
array of human rights organizations.
  I urge you to join me in supporting this contribution to truth and 
justice and something that is critically important to the future of 
Argentina, particularly these children.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time 
in opposition to this amendment, although I will not oppose the 
amendment.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the gentleman from Michigan 
is recognized for 5 minutes.
  There was no objection.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Chairman, while we are still taking a look at 
exactly what this amendment means, it raises some concerns because I 
think the last thing that some of us want to do is to divert important 
intelligence resources and assets to take a look at something that 
happened 20 to 30 years ago at the same time that we are facing the 
threat that we face today from radical jihadists and other challenges 
on a global basis.
  I think my colleague made some compelling arguments as to if there is 
information available in the intelligence community that would shed 
some light on these types of issues that the intelligence community 
should at least report that information to the Intelligence Committee 
so that we can determine how we should dispose of that information, 
perhaps make it available.
  I am assuming that my colleague doesn't envision the intelligence 
community going out and doing new work to try to assess as to what 
happened 20 to 30 years ago but to report on the information that they 
have in their possession at that time.
  I will yield to my colleague.
  Is my understanding roughly correct?
  Mr. HINCHEY. I think your understanding is correct. But I would just 
say this: that there is unquestionably a large amount of information 
that is available which would be very important to the Government of 
Argentina with regard to the location of these children. I'll just give 
you an example:
  In 1999 the Justice Department asked for the release of this 
information. The State Department then released 470,000 documents on 
this subject; however, there was no release from other entities that 
contain similar documents, and it's about time that those documents 
become released.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Reclaiming my time, I thank my colleague for that 
clarification.
  So I will not oppose this amendment, Mr. Chairman. I will support the 
amendment. And I am sure that those of us on the Intelligence Committee 
can work with the individual and the intelligence community to make 
sure that we get the information that is out there that is available to 
assess it and to go through it in such a way that will not take large 
amounts of time from the intelligence community and divert their 
attention from the tasks and the challenges that they face today.
  With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, I want to express my appreciation to the 
gentleman from Michigan for his statements and for his cooperation with 
this amendment. I am deeply grateful to him for that.
  Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the 
gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey).
  The amendment was agreed to.


                  Announcement By the Acting Chairman

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings 
will now resume on those amendments printed in House Report 110-759 on 
which further proceedings were postponed, in the following order:
  amendment No. 2 by Mr. Hoekstra of Michigan;
  amendment No. 4 by Mr. Hoekstra of Michigan;
  amendment No. 6 by Mr. Kirk of Illinois.
  The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes the time for any electronic vote 
after the first vote in this series.


                Amendment No. 2 Offered by Mr. Hoekstra

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a 
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Michigan 
(Mr. Hoekstra) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which 
the ayes prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             Recorded Vote

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 414, 
noes 10, answered ``present'' 7, not voting 8, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 499]

                               AYES--414

     Ackerman
     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Allen
     Altmire
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Barrett (SC)
     Barrow
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Bean
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blumenauer
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Boren
     Boucher
     Boustany
     Boyd (FL)
     Boyda (KS)
     Brady (PA)
     Brady (TX)
     Braley (IA)
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown, Corrine
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Butterfield
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carney
     Carson
     Carter
     Castle
     Castor
     Cazayoux
     Chabot
     Chandler
     Childers
     Christensen
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Courtney
     Cramer
     Crenshaw
     Crowley
     Cubin
     Cuellar
     Culberson
     Cummings
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, David
     Davis, Lincoln
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     DeLauro
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Donnelly
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Edwards (TX)
     Ehlers
     Ellsworth
     Emanuel
     Emerson
     Engel
     English (PA)
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Everett
     Faleomavaega
     Fallin
     Farr
     Fattah
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Forbes

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     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foster
     Foxx
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Giffords
     Gillibrand
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Gonzalez
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Granger
     Graves
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Hall (TX)
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Hill
     Hinojosa
     Hobson
     Hodes
     Hoekstra
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Inglis (SC)
     Inslee
     Israel
     Issa
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson (GA)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Jones (OH)
     Jordan
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Keller
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Klein (FL)
     Kline (MN)
     Knollenberg
     Kuhl (NY)
     LaHood
     Lamborn
     Lampson
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Loebsack
     Lowey
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Lynch
     Mack
     Mahoney (FL)
     Maloney (NY)
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Markey
     Marshall
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCaul (TX)
     McCollum (MN)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McGovern
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     McNerney
     McNulty
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Melancon
     Mica
     Michaud
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, Gary
     Miller, George
     Mitchell
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moran (KS)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murphy, Tim
     Murtha
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Neugebauer
     Norton
     Nunes
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Pearce
     Pence
     Perlmutter
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reyes
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Ryan (WI)
     Salazar
     Sali
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Saxton
     Scalise
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schmidt
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Sessions
     Sestak
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Souder
     Space
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stearns
     Stupak
     Sullivan
     Tancredo
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Tierney
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Upton
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walberg
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh (NY)
     Walz (MN)
     Wamp
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch (VT)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Wexler
     Whitfield (KY)
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (OH)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman (VA)
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                                NOES--10

     Ellison
     Filner
     Hinchey
     Kucinich
     McDermott
     Moore (WI)
     Obey
     Paul
     Payne
     Stark

                        ANSWERED ``PRESENT''--7

     Abercrombie
     Clarke
     Cohen
     Edwards (MD)
     Hirono
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Sutton

                             NOT VOTING--8

     Bordallo
     Boswell
     Delahunt
     Fortuno
     Gilchrest
     Green, Al
     Lucas
     Rush

                              {time}  1538

  Messrs. HINCHEY, STARK, PAYNE, and Ms. MOORE of Wisconsin changed 
their vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  Messrs. TIERNEY, JOHNSON of Georgia, BISHOP of Utah, HERGER, NADLER 
and Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California changed their vote from ``no'' 
to ``aye.''
  Mr. COHEN and Ms. SUTTON changed their vote from ``aye'' to 
``present.''
  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  Stated for:
  Ms. BORDALLO. Mr. Chairman, I was delayed in arriving to the Chamber 
this afternoon and the vote on the first amendment offered by Mr. 
Hoekstra of Michigan to H.R. 5959, the Intelligence Authorization Act 
of Fiscal Year 2009, closed before I could cast my vote. Had I been 
able to cast my vote on this amendment, rollcall No. 499, I would have 
voted ``aye.''


                Amendment No. 4 Offered by Mr. Hoekstra

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a 
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Michigan 
(Mr. Hoekstra) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which 
the noes prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             Recorded Vote

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 249, 
noes 180, not voting 10, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 500]

                               AYES--249

     Ackerman
     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Allen
     Arcuri
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Barrett (SC)
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Bean
     Berkley
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Boren
     Boucher
     Boustany
     Brady (TX)
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Cardoza
     Carney
     Carter
     Castle
     Cazayoux
     Chabot
     Chandler
     Childers
     Coble
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Costa
     Costello
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Cuellar
     Culberson
     Cummings
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, David
     Davis, Lincoln
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Donnelly
     Doolittle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Ehlers
     Ellsworth
     Engel
     English (PA)
     Everett
     Fallin
     Fattah
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foster
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Giffords
     Gillibrand
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Granger
     Graves
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Herseth Sandlin
     Hill
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Holden
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Inglis (SC)
     Israel
     Issa
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Jordan
     Kagen
     Keller
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Klein (FL)
     Kline (MN)
     Knollenberg
     Kuhl (NY)
     Lamborn
     Lampson
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Lynch
     Mack
     Mahoney (FL)
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Marshall
     Matheson
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCaul (TX)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     McNerney
     McNulty
     Melancon
     Mica
     Michaud
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Mitchell
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy, Tim
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Nunes
     Pearce
     Pence
     Perlmutter
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reynolds
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Sali
     Saxton
     Scalise
     Schmidt
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Space
     Stearns
     Stupak
     Sullivan
     Tancredo
     Tanner
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Upton
     Walberg
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh (NY)
     Wamp
     Watson
     Weiner
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield (KY)
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (OH)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman (VA)
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--180

     Abercrombie
     Altmire
     Andrews
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Barrow
     Becerra
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Bordallo
     Boyd (FL)
     Boyda (KS)
     Brady (PA)
     Braley (IA)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Carnahan
     Carson
     Castor
     Christensen
     Clarke
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Cohen
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Courtney
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     DeLauro
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Doyle
     Edwards (MD)
     Edwards (TX)
     Ellison
     Emanuel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Faleomavaega
     Farr
     Filner
     Frank (MA)
     Gonzalez
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Higgins
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hirono
     Hodes
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)

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     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson (GA)
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind
     Kucinich
     LaHood
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum (MN)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Paul
     Payne
     Peterson (MN)
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Salazar
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sestak
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stark
     Sutton
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Udall (NM)
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walz (MN)
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watt
     Waxman
     Welch (VT)
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth

                             NOT VOTING--10

     Boswell
     Delahunt
     Emerson
     Fortuno
     Gilchrest
     Green, Al
     Johnson, E. B.
     Lucas
     Norton
     Rush


                  Announcement by the Acting Chairman

  The Acting CHAIRMAN (during the vote). There are 2 minutes remaining 
on this vote.

                              {time}  1546

  Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, Messrs. JEFFERSON, 
BISHOP of Georgia and MOORE of Kansas changed their vote from ``aye'' 
to ``no.''
  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  Stated against:
  Ms. NORTON. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 500, had I been present, I 
would have voted ``no.''


                  Amendment No. 6 Offered by Mr. Kirk

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a 
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois 
(Mr. Kirk) on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the 
ayes prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             Recorded Vote

  The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 426, 
noes 2, not voting 11, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 501]

                               AYES--426

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Allen
     Altmire
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Barrett (SC)
     Barrow
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Bean
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berry
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blumenauer
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Bordallo
     Boren
     Boucher
     Boustany
     Boyd (FL)
     Boyda (KS)
     Brady (PA)
     Brady (TX)
     Braley (IA)
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown, Corrine
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Butterfield
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carney
     Carson
     Carter
     Castle
     Castor
     Cazayoux
     Chabot
     Chandler
     Childers
     Christensen
     Clarke
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Cohen
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Courtney
     Cramer
     Crenshaw
     Crowley
     Cubin
     Cuellar
     Culberson
     Cummings
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, David
     Davis, Lincoln
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     DeLauro
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Donnelly
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Edwards (MD)
     Edwards (TX)
     Ehlers
     Ellison
     Ellsworth
     Emanuel
     Emerson
     Engel
     English (PA)
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Everett
     Fallin
     Farr
     Fattah
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Filner
     Flake
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foster
     Foxx
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Giffords
     Gillibrand
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Gonzalez
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Granger
     Graves
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Hall (TX)
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Hill
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hirono
     Hobson
     Hodes
     Hoekstra
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Inglis (SC)
     Inslee
     Israel
     Issa
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson (GA)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Jones (OH)
     Jordan
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Keller
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Klein (FL)
     Kline (MN)
     Knollenberg
     Kucinich
     Kuhl (NY)
     LaHood
     Lamborn
     Lampson
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Lynch
     Mack
     Mahoney (FL)
     Maloney (NY)
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Markey
     Marshall
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCaul (TX)
     McCollum (MN)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     McNerney
     McNulty
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Melancon
     Mica
     Michaud
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, Gary
     Miller, George
     Mitchell
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (KS)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murphy, Tim
     Murtha
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Neugebauer
     Norton
     Nunes
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pearce
     Pence
     Perlmutter
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Poe
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reyes
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Ryan (WI)
     Salazar
     Sali
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Saxton
     Scalise
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schmidt
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Sessions
     Sestak
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Shimkus
     Shuler
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Souder
     Space
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stearns
     Stupak
     Sullivan
     Sutton
     Tancredo
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor
     Terry
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Tierney
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Upton
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walberg
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh (NY)
     Walz (MN)
     Wamp
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch (VT)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Wexler
     Whitfield (KY)
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (OH)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman (VA)
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                                NOES--2

     Paul
     Stark
      

                             NOT VOTING--11

     Berman
     Boswell
     Delahunt
     Faleomavaega
     Fortuno
     Gilchrest
     Green, Al
     Johnson, E. B.
     Lucas
     Rush
     Watson


                  Announcement by the Acting Chairman

  The Acting CHAIRMAN (during the vote). There are 2 minutes remaining 
on this vote.

                              {time}  1554

  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. The question is on the committee amendment in 
the nature of a substitute, as amended.
  The committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended, 
was agreed to.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the Committee rises.
  Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. 
Serrano) having assumed the chair, Mr. Ross, Acting Chairman of the 
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, reported that 
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 5959) to 
authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for intelligence and 
intelligence-related

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activities of the United States Government, the Community Management 
Account, and the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disability 
System, and for other purposes, pursuant to House Resolution 1343, he 
reported the bill back to the House with an amendment adopted by the 
Committee of the Whole.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is 
ordered.
  Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment to the amendment 
reported from the Committee of the Whole? If not, the question is on 
the amendment.
  The amendment was agreed to.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third 
reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.


               Motion to Recommit Offered by Mr. Hoekstra

  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to recommit at the desk.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. At the current time and in the current form, I am 
opposed to the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to 
recommit.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Mr. Hoekstra moves to recommit the bill, H.R. 5959, to the 
     Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence with instructions 
     to report the same back to the House promptly in the form to 
     which perfected at the time of this motion with the following 
     amendment:
       At the end of subtitle A of title IV, add the following new 
     section:

     SEC. 418. NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT ON ENERGY PRICES 
                   AND SECURITY.

       Not later than January 1, 2009, the Director of National 
     Intelligence shall submit to Congress a national intelligence 
     assessment on national security and energy security issues 
     relating to rapidly escalating energy costs. Such assessment 
     shall include an assessment of--
       (1) the short-term and long-term outlook for prices, 
     supply, and demand for key forms of energy, including crude 
     oil and natural gas, and alternative fuels;
       (2) the plans and intentions of key energy-producing and 
     exporting nations with respect to energy production and 
     supply;
       (3) the national security implications of rapidly 
     escalating energy costs;
       (4) the national security implications of potential use of 
     energy resources as leverage against the United States by 
     Venezuela, Iran, or other potential adversaries of the United 
     States as a result of increased energy prices;
       (5) the national security implications of increases in 
     funding to current or potential adversaries of the United 
     States as a result of increased energy prices;
       (6) an assessment of the likelihood that increased energy 
     prices will directly or indirectly increase financial support 
     for terrorist organizations;
       (7) the national security implications of extreme 
     fluctuations in energy prices; and
       (8) the national security implications of continued 
     dependence on international energy supplies.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan is recognized 
for 5 minutes.

                              {time}  1600

  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, this motion to recommit sends the bill 
back to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence with 
instructions for an amendment requesting a national intelligence 
assessment on the strategic implications of high oil and energy prices 
for America.
  I would like to remind my colleagues in the House today that last 
year, when we did the Intelligence Authorization Bill, over 230 of my 
colleagues voted for an amendment that would require a national 
assessment on global climate change and asked the intelligence 
community to investigate that. This is a much more pressing and a much 
more serious issue and a much more immediate issue.
  This assessment would constitute the best analytical judgment of our 
intelligence community as to the outlook for supply, demand and prices 
for a variety of strategic energy sources. This assessment would also 
examine the plans and intentions of key energy-producing and exporting 
states. But most importantly, this assessment explores the national 
security implications of America's sworn enemies, such as Iran and 
Venezuela, using increased energy prices as leverage against us and our 
foreign policy goals. This assessment is timely and directly relevant 
to America's national security interests.
  This amendment stands in sharp contrast to the repeated attempts to 
divert precious time and scarce intelligence resources to discuss 
topics such as global warming, topics that merely advance an 
ideological agenda, rather than keeping this country and the American 
safe.
  Take a look at specifically what this motion to recommit asks the 
intelligence community to do. It asks the intelligence community to 
look at the plans, the intentions of key energy-producing and exporting 
nations with respect to energy production and supply.
  Energy-producing nations are changing their behavior. Why? For them 
it is less about increasing supply today because they are now flush 
with cash. Their behavior is changing.
  It also asks the intelligence community to look at the national 
security implications of potential use of energy resources as leverage 
against the United States by Venezuela, Iran, or other potential 
adversaries of the United States as a result of increased energy 
prices. Some call this the ``Iran premium.'' 80 percent of the world's 
oil reserves are controlled by government or national oil companies, 
many of them unfriendly to the United States.
  This assessment also would ask for the national security implications 
of increases in funding to current or potential adversaries of the 
United States as a result of increased energy prices. This year there 
will be a transfer of over $2.3 trillion from energy-consuming nations 
to energy-producing nations. The intelligence community should assess 
what the impact of that wealth transfer should be.
  In addition, the community would do an assessment of the likelihood 
that increased energy prices will directly or indirectly increase 
financial support for terrorist organizations.
  In an environment where America receives 60 percent of its energy 
overseas, where we are dependent on foreign supplies of energy, and 
where there are no indications that there will be decisions made to 
increase U.S. production, it is absolutely essential and vital that our 
national intelligence community does this assessment so that we, as 
policymakers, can understand the implications of the decisions that we 
make.
  We need this assessment. We need to understand how vulnerable we are 
and the tools that our adversaries may use against us in the future.
  For that reason, I urge my colleagues to support this motion to 
recommit. Send this bill to committee, where, on the Intelligence 
Committee, this can be done in a very expeditious way. To make sure 
that we get this information, this assessment will be required to be 
brought back to the House of Representatives by January of 2009.
  With that, I ask for my colleagues' support, and yield back the 
balance of my time.
  Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman yield for a question?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I will yield for a question.
  Mr. HOYER. Am I correct that if this was forthwith--you said it could 
be soon. If it was forthwith it could be done now, couldn't it?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. This motion to recommit is promptly.
  Mr. HOYER. I understand that. My question to the gentleman is, if it 
were forthwith, what you want done could be done right now, could it 
not?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I believe that the way the amendment is written, the 
committee can do the work, do it very, very quickly and get this bill 
and get this amendment back.
  Mr. HOYER. I ask my friend the question again. If it was forthwith we 
could do what you want to do right now, could we not?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. If the amendment were forthwith, there would be another 
avenue to deal with it.
  Reclaiming my time. The amendment is promptly, so that the committee 
can do the work that it is required to do and that the committee is 
required to do. This says we will have the committee do its work, and 
that

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the DNI will report back by January with this information that is 
critical to the House of Representatives.
  With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman's time has expired.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I rise to object to the motion to recommit 
because essentially it would kill the bill and it would----
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.
  Mr. REYES. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would ask for 
unanimous consent to strike the word ``promptly'' and replace it with 
``forthwith.'' Would the gentleman agree? Is there an objection?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Michigan yield for 
such a request?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Reserving the right to object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman yield for that request?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Reserving the right to object, I would like to enter--I 
have a question for my colleague.
  Mr. REYES. I asked you for unanimous consent to strike the word 
``promptly'' and replace it with ``forthwith.''
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Reserving the right to object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized on his 
reservation.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I would like to suggest to my colleague that he amend 
the unanimous consent request to include putting on the House Calendar 
the opportunity to vote on, to schedule and vote on ANWR and other 
production issues.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I reclaim my time, and I withdraw the 
request.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The request is withdrawn. The gentleman from 
Texas is recognized.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to strike the word 
``promptly'' and replace it with ``forthwith.''
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Will the gentleman from Michigan yield for 
such a request?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleague again to amend his 
unanimous consent request.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is recognized on his 
reservation.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. My reservation is, I request, I reserve the right to 
object and will not object if my colleague amends his unanimous consent 
request to include putting on the House calendar H.R. 3089, H.R. 2279, 
H.R. 5656, H.R. 2208, H.R. 2493, H.R. 6107 and H.R. 6108.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas is withdrawing his 
request?
  Mr. REYES. The answer is no. And I reclaim my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I object to the motion to recommit because it simply is 
intended to kill the bill. Communities all around this country are 
hurting with $4 gas and all we get from the other side are charades as 
we've seen here tonight. The whole world watches as we try to do what's 
right. The whole world heard them say earlier that this was a vital and 
important piece of legislation that would fund the intelligence 
community. This is a betrayal of the work that is being done by men and 
women in the intelligence community that are putting their lives on the 
line to keep us safe. This is an outrage put forth by the politics, 
rather than wanting to get things done in this House.
  I will tell you Mr. Speaker, why would they want to derail----
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I demand that these words be taken down.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas will suspend.
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, the use of the word ``betrayal'' in regard 
to my actions I believe warrant that those words be taken down.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the words.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Communities all around this country are hurting with $4 gas 
     and all we get from the other side are charades as we've seen 
     here tonight. The whole world watches as we try to do what's 
     right. The whole world heard them say earlier that this was a 
     vital and important piece of legislation that would fund the 
     intelligence community. This is a betrayal of the work that 
     is being done by men and women in the intelligence community 
     that are putting their lives on the line to keep us safe.
       This is an outrage put forth by the politics, rather than 
     wanting to get things done in this House. I will tell you Mr. 
     Speaker, why would they want to derail----

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the opinion of the Chair, the words 
complained of were not directed in such a way as to constitute a 
personality or otherwise transgress the bounds of decorum in debate.
  The gentleman from Texas may continue.
  Mr. REYES. Mr. Speaker, ironically enough, I think this is a good 
idea. I would gladly accept this because I think it's important that we 
get the information that Mr. Hoekstra is asking.
  I yield to the gentleman from Missouri.
  Mr. SKELTON. In matters of national security, we should be forthright 
and not engage in political back-and-forth. This is a replay of what we 
experienced with the national security bill, named after our friend 
Duncan Hunter from California.
  I just think it's a play on words. The word ``promptly'' kills the 
bill. If it were to say ``forthwith,'' it would be a more proper word 
and we could proceed.
  Mr. REYES. Thank you, Mr. Skelton.
  Mr. Speaker, I'm still puzzled why they would want to derail this 
important authorization that funds the intelligence community, why they 
would want to destroy the bipartisanship that they bragged about 
earlier.
  I think it is important that we let this bill go forward. I think 
it's important that we do what's right. I think it's important that we 
stop this foolishness here on the House floor.
  I now yield to the distinguished majority leader.
  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the word 
``promptly'' be stricken and that the word ``forthwith'' be substituted 
in the motion to recommit.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Maryland?
  Mr. HOEKSTRA. I object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objection is heard.
  Mr. REYES. I will continue to yield to the distinguished majority 
leader.
  Mr. HOYER. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, you heard me ask the 
question of Mr. Hoekstra. Wouldn't it be true that if he would use 
``forthwith,'' what he wants to do could be accomplished right now? We 
would all support it. It is a worthy objective.
  Unfortunately, Mr. Hoekstra, in the same motion where he says I want 
to do something says but I don't want to do it now; I am not sure when 
I want to do it.
  I asked for unanimous consent, and I didn't get to do exactly what I 
think everybody in this House thinks is a good thing to do, and I will 
tell my friend we're going to do this. It's a good idea. But the advice 
you're getting is not good advice.
  Ladies and gentlemen of the House, ladies and gentlemen on my side of 
the aisle, this continues to be a political game. If you want to take 
my words down on that, you can do it. This is not accomplishing the 
objective.
  This continues to be a pattern, and the American voters are pretty 
smart, and they understand when somebody says I want to do something, 
but by the way, I want to kill the vehicle at least temporarily that 
accomplishes my objective, at the same time, they think to themselves 
something is not right.
  So, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you. We're hopefully going to 
reject this motion, which sidetracks this important intelligence 
authorization bill, which everybody has said is an important bill, but 
I will tell you further, we're going to accomplish the objective of Mr. 
Hoekstra next week because it's a good objective.
  But the fact of the matter is we could accomplish it right now if you 
didn't want to try to make some political point out of it on this 
intelligence bill, and you can say ``oh'' all you want.

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You can say ``oh'' all you want, but that is the truth and you know it. 
You know it in your heart, and you know it in your mind.
  I urge my colleagues: reject this killing motion.


                         Parliamentary Inquiry

  Mr. WESTMORELAND. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman may state his inquiry.
  Mr. WESTMORELAND. I think I know the answer to this, but if this 
motion to recommit did pass and the bill was sent back to the committee 
from which it came, could the bill not be reported back to this House 
on the next legislative day?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. As the Chair reaffirmed on November 15, 
2007, and at some subsequent time, the committee could meet and report 
the bill back to the House.
  Without objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion to 
recommit.
  There was no objection.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to recommit.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the noes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair 
will reduce to 5 minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on 
the question of passage.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 200, 
noes 225, not voting 9, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 502]

                               AYES--200

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Altmire
     Bachmann
     Bachus
     Barrett (SC)
     Barrow
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonner
     Bono Mack
     Boozman
     Boustany
     Brady (TX)
     Broun (GA)
     Brown (SC)
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Buchanan
     Burgess
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp (MI)
     Campbell (CA)
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Carter
     Castle
     Cazayoux
     Chabot
     Coble
     Cole (OK)
     Conaway
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Culberson
     Davis (KY)
     Davis, David
     Davis, Tom
     Deal (GA)
     Dent
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Doolittle
     Drake
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English (PA)
     Everett
     Fallin
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Forbes
     Fortenberry
     Fossella
     Foxx
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Giffords
     Gingrey
     Gohmert
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Granger
     Graves
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Heller
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Issa
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Jordan
     Keller
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Kline (MN)
     Knollenberg
     Kuhl (NY)
     Lamborn
     Lampson
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Latta
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lungren, Daniel E.
     Mack
     Manzullo
     Marchant
     Marshall
     McCarthy (CA)
     McCaul (TX)
     McCotter
     McCrery
     McHenry
     McHugh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McMorris Rodgers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Mitchell
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy, Tim
     Musgrave
     Myrick
     Neugebauer
     Nunes
     Paul
     Pearce
     Pence
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pitts
     Poe
     Porter
     Price (GA)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reichert
     Renzi
     Reynolds
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roskam
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Sali
     Saxton
     Scalise
     Schmidt
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Smith (NE)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Stearns
     Sullivan
     Tancredo
     Terry
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner
     Upton
     Walberg
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh (NY)
     Wamp
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Westmoreland
     Whitfield (KY)
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wittman (VA)
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--225

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Arcuri
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Bean
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Boren
     Boucher
     Boyd (FL)
     Boyda (KS)
     Brady (PA)
     Braley (IA)
     Brown, Corrine
     Butterfield
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardoza
     Carnahan
     Carney
     Carson
     Castor
     Chandler
     Childers
     Clarke
     Clay
     Cleaver
     Clyburn
     Cohen
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Costa
     Costello
     Courtney
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cuellar
     Cummings
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis, Lincoln
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     DeLauro
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Donnelly
     Doyle
     Edwards (MD)
     Edwards (TX)
     Ellison
     Ellsworth
     Emanuel
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Foster
     Frank (MA)
     Gillibrand
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green, Gene
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Hall (NY)
     Hare
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Herseth Sandlin
     Higgins
     Hill
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hirono
     Hodes
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson (GA)
     Jones (OH)
     Kagen
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind
     Klein (FL)
     Kucinich
     LaHood
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Loebsack
     Lofgren, Zoe
     Lowey
     Lynch
     Mahoney (FL)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum (MN)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McNerney
     McNulty
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Melancon
     Michaud
     Miller (NC)
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moore (KS)
     Moore (WI)
     Moran (VA)
     Murphy (CT)
     Murphy, Patrick
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Perlmutter
     Peterson (MN)
     Platts
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Richardson
     Rodriguez
     Rohrabacher
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Salazar
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Sarbanes
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Schwartz
     Scott (GA)
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sestak
     Shea-Porter
     Sherman
     Shuler
     Sires
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Space
     Speier
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stupak
     Sutton
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Tierney
     Towns
     Tsongas
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Walz (MN)
     Wasserman Schultz
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Welch (VT)
     Wexler
     Wilson (OH)
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Yarmuth

                             NOT VOTING--9

     Boswell
     Delahunt
     Gilchrest
     Green, Al
     Inglis (SC)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Lucas
     Pickering
     Rush

                              {time}  1656

  Messrs. LaHOOD and STUPAK and Ms. RICHARDSON changed their vote from 
``aye'' to ``no.''
  So the motion to recommit was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
  The bill was passed.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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