[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 151 (2005), Part 21]
[House]
[Pages 28152-28157]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                     THE 30-SOMETHING WORKING GROUP

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Poe). Under the Speaker's announced 
policy of January 4, 2005, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Meek) is 
recognized for half the remaining time until midnight, approximately 48 
minutes.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, it is an honor to address the House 
once again. I would like to thank not only the Democratic leader but 
the Democratic leadership for allowing the 30-Something Working Group 
to come to the floor again not only to address the Members but also 
interested parties in how our country conducts its business and how we 
operate this government that the American taxpayers have allowed us to 
oversee.
  There is a lot going on, Mr. Speaker. I must add a lot of it is quite 
discouraging when we start looking at how we are conducting business 
here in Washington, D.C. But I think it is very important and very 
appropriate for not only Mr. Delahunt but Ms. Wasserman Schultz and 
also Mr. Ryan of Ohio to come to the floor to share with the American 
people things that the Democratic side of the aisle are working on to 
improve their lives.
  I can tell the Members try, day in and day out, not only in the 
committees but here on the floor working on behalf of Americans, 
protecting Americans here at home, dealing with issues as it relates to 
implementing the recommendations of the 9/11 reports. As Members know, 
the 9/11 Commission has given this government failing grades across the 
board of implementing some of the projects that they would like to see 
implemented to protect Americans. Also, we have been standing up for 
Americans that have served in harm's way, veterans, making sure that 
they are able to get improved health care benefits. But in this 
particular budget that the Republican majority passed, we know the 
lines are going to get longer and services are going to be cut back or 
veterans are going to have to pay more.
  We released a report today dealing with Hurricane Katrina. In the 
same week that the Republican majority, Mr. Speaker, is going to pass a 
budget on the backs of working Americans to give millionaires tax 
breaks, we still have families living in tents. Tents. While we are 
kicking others out of hotel rooms, we are giving tax breaks to 
millionaires and billionaires. And I think it is important that we 
understand what is happening right now in the moment.
  I do not want to wait for the book to come out, Mr. Speaker. I want 
to do something about it before one can write the book. And if they are 
going to write a book, it is going to talk about Americans and Congress 
came together. Hopefully, we can get some of our Republican colleagues 
in a bipartisan way to save the American taxpayer and to save the 
Americans that are in need right now.
  There is a lot of concern and focus on what is going on hundreds and 
thousands of miles away as it relates to a group of individuals that we 
have done quite a bit for recently in Iraq. Americans simply ask for, 
not just Democrats in the House but also the Senate has asked the 
President for a clear plan as it relates to dealing with the issue of 
Iraq and our troops and making sure that we can bring families together 
in the very near future.
  I think it is important that we continue to hit on these issues. I do 
not know what the American children and families have done to the 
Republican majority, but I can say that if they passed this budget, 
what the majority would like to do on the backs of Americans and in the 
same week give the wealthiest Americans an unprecedented tax break in 
the history of this Republic, I think it is something that the American 
people are going to have to evaluate. The Democrats, on this side, we 
are trying very much to protect access to health care for Americans. 
Not a mumbling word, not a mumbling word, from this Congress on this 
issue of the health care crisis here in Congress. But I am glad that 
the 30-Something Working Group does not find it robbery to come to the 
floor to bring light to these issues and make sure that not only 
Independents, Republicans and Democrats know what is happening here 
under the Capitol Dome but also know what is not happening.
  And with that, I yield to the gentlewoman from the great State of 
Florida (Ms. Wasserman Schultz).
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to join my good 
friend from Ohio and Massachusetts and Florida here each week.
  Just to pick up what the gentleman was talking about, it is, sadly, 
not only on the gulf coast that we have had the issue of housing 
difficulties following Wilma. They had the same issue in Katrina on the 
gulf coast. We have got the same issue going on in Wilma, which was 
much smaller in scope but affected a significant number of people. We 
had more people affected by Wilma in terms of electric utility outages 
than all of Katrina, and we still to this day have Wilma victims in 
South Florida who have not been given temporary housing assistance, 
still people who are struggling to find that. Yet we are passing budget 
reconciliation, budget cut bills. We are passing tax cut bills in the 
name of offsetting the cost of the relief that we need to provide for 
Katrina victims and victims of natural disasters when the reality is 
that what we are doing with budget cuts is a direct result of needing 
to pay for the tax cuts that were passed just a week later.
  And I want to echo what our good friend from Pennsylvania said when 
he introduced his Iraq War resolution, and he has repeated this a 
number of times, that just because you say it does not make it true. 
And our good friends on the other side of the aisle can continue to 
repeat over and over if they want to that they are offsetting the cost 
of Katrina relief with budget cuts, but we all know that the reality 
is, and I mean, we have only to do the math, that when they pass $50 
billion in budget cuts one week and then the very next week they pass 
$70 billion in tax cuts, that is not a Deficit Reduction Act, as they 
called it and titled that bill, when we are adding $20 billion to the 
deficit.
  I do not know. I go back to my kindergarten and first grade 
mathematics and can pretty easily sit down with my 6-year-olds, and 
they can figure out that the math does not work. But, unfortunately, 
what we have going on here, I guess, the politics of what is going on 
here is about message. And the Republican leadership's politics is 
repetition, repetition, repetition. They figure if they repeat the same 
message over and over again, whether it is true or not, that they 
figure if it has a kernel of truth, that people will believe it.

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  But Mr. Murtha is absolutely right on tax-cut policy, on budget-cut 
policy, whether it is how we got into the Iraq war and even down to the 
description of his own resolution. If you say it, just because you say 
it does not make it true. That is really what we need to get across to 
the American people.
  I would like to yield to my good friend, the gentleman from Ohio.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I just totally agree. I think we are 
talking about some basic principles here of which the government that 
currently rules is not reflective of what is going on in Ohio, in 
Florida, in the Gulf States, in Massachusetts. We are clearly not 
addressing the main issues.
  I know my friend from Massachusetts has some comments to make, so I 
am going to kick it over to him. But I think as we make our 
presentation tonight, this is not personal with the Republicans, 
because I think we have all agreed, we have got some good friends on 
the other side of the aisle. We are just disagreeing with their 
philosophy of governing.
  When you see here tonight, with some great charts that Tom Manatos 
from our staff has put together for us, the kind of spending that our 
country is doing in Iraq and the kind of cuts that we have here in the 
United States, when you see the tax cuts, the amount and who they are 
going to and the cuts in the budget in specific programs that are 
geared towards the middle class, Medicare, Medicaid, and the level of 
sacrifice that average people are being asked to make here, it is 
unbelievable.
  When you talk about Delphi going bankrupt; Ford came out last week, 
they are going to cut 30,000 jobs and close 10 plants. The economy may 
be growing, but average middle Americans are not seeing it in their 
paychecks, and they are seeing tremendous increases in their energy 
costs and gas and heating oil and the like. I know you have been very 
instrumental in a variety of ways in Massachusetts to help with that.
  Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I think the point that our colleague Ms. 
Wasserman Schultz was making about arithmetic and the fact that, 
despite the rhetoric, the reality is that the deficit will increase as 
a result of the action that this Republican majority will take during 
the course of this week in concert with the Republican Senate in terms 
of spending cuts and tax cuts, these so-called reconciliation bills.
  I think it is important to note a very disturbing statistic that was 
referred to in a Wall Street Journal article, and that is that the 
Federal Government's budget deficit in December, in December 2005, the 
month just concluded, was in excess of $83 billion. That is for a 
single month. That is an increase of some 43 percent from a year 
earlier, that is from November of 2004, and a record high for any 
November in American history.
  So the direction that this country is headed with the economic 
policies that are debated and voted on, again recognizing that there is 
a Republican majority, I would submit are heading our Nation into a 
potential economic tsunami. Distinguished economists from all places on 
the spectrum have expressed concern. I am sure during the course of our 
conversation, knowing how well prepared you all are, you 30-somethings, 
you will be able to provide a quote for our colleagues and for those 
that are watching our conversation this evening. But stop for one 
minute and simply think of that figure, $83 billion.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Just to clarify that, we are running an $83 billion 
deficit just for one month, just for the month of November, which means 
we do not have the money; we are not taking in the money to pay out the 
bills, and we have got to go and borrow the money. And this $83 billion 
that the gentleman from Massachusetts was talking about, we are 
borrowing it from China. We are borrowing it from Saudi Arabia. We are 
borrowing it from Japan, and we have to pay interest on it.
  So we are running up a tab here for the next generation that is not 
fair. And we are doing things to the next generation, our generation, 
our generation, that we are going to eventually have to pay the bill.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, there was a 
time and a place that we could say future generations, but we are 
talking about right now. We are talking about taking and cutting out of 
the budget child enforcement, Mr. Speaker, enforcement that State 
attorneys have to go after deadbeat dads, that mothers will lose money 
out of, deadbeat parents. Let me say that children will go without.
  We are talking in this budget about cutting free and reduced lunches 
for children. We are talking about cutting money out of the veteran 
affairs. The Republican majority in this budget is instructing through 
legislation the Veteran Affairs Committee to cut over $650 million out 
of veteran affairs.
  I do not understand. We can talk about future generations as it 
relates to the budget and the $27,000-plus that they already owe at 
birth, but let us talk about what is happening right now. The lines are 
going to get longer for veterans. Under Medicaid, children will not get 
eye examinations because of this cut.
  I could see it if we were to say, Mr. Speaker, we did not have the 
money for this. But we are giving the money to millionaires. We are 
giving the money to billionaires.
  Mr. DELAHUNT. We are also giving money to the Iraqi people and 
denying it to the American people.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Well, Mr. Delahunt, I must add to just say this, 
that we are compassionate to the oil companies. We are giving them 
money when they are making record-breaking profits. So when folks say, 
well, Congressman, when we get an e-mail or so to Members of Congress, 
well, what are you so alarmed about? We are in the majority. What are 
you concerned about? You gain the majority on the Democratic side, and 
you can do something different.
  We have reams of plans where we want to put American people first. We 
want to put our troops first, our troops' families first. We want to 
put our veterans first. We want to put a child that did nothing but was 
born as an American child first. That is what we want to do. We want to 
do away with the culture of corruption and cronyism and incompetence. 
What is wrong with that?
  So, Mr. Delahunt and Mr. Ryan and Ms. Wasserman Schultz, when we talk 
about future generations, we have to talk about now in the present. We 
are not talking about Republican families will not suffer under this. 
They will suffer just as bad as independents and Democratic families.
  So I think it is important that we should be alarmed, that Americans 
should be alarmed. These are the very same individuals, I am sorry, I 
have to pull my chart out; Mr. Delahunt, you can't say this enough, 
these are the folks that are saying, Trust us, we know how to operate 
the government.
  Then you have a President that could not do it by himself with a 
Republican majority who made this country more dependent on foreign 
countries like China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, borrowing $1.05 trillion. I 
cannot say that enough. In 4 years, that has trumped 42 presidents 
before him, $1.01 trillion. In 224 years of presidencies, of all the 
crises we have had, this President seems to have done it in 4 years.
  You would think that cities would be a shining example of the Federal 
commitment after all of this money has been borrowed from foreign 
nations. No, cities are putting levies and millage and going out to the 
taxpayers asking for more money, a penny here, a penny there. 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, people are getting tax cuts, millionaires 
are getting tax cuts on the backs of the very people that we are trying 
to provide a government for.
  So, Mr. Delahunt and Ms. Wasserman Schultz and Mr. Ryan, if we could 
talk about the present, because we talk about future generations and 
some folks will say we will have time, we will recover. But this is 
unprecedented. The deficit has never been this high.
  Mr. DELAHUNT. If I could talk about the immediate future for one 
moment to follow up, because I think you make a prescient point.

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  While we are standing here today, there was a report that I listened 
to that indicated that the chairman of the Defense Appropriations 
Committee, a highly respected and regarded Member of this House, 
Chairman Bill Young from Florida, and the senior Democrat, the ranking 
member whom you alluded to earlier, John Murtha, again, highly 
regarded, well-respected, served his country in Vietnam, a senior 
Democrat, on the Defense Appropriations bill that their staffs are 
preparing, already an additional $100 billion in that supplemental 
budget to be put to this House, to this Congress, for approval in the 
not-too-distant future. That is an additional $100 billion that will be 
utilized in Iraq, not here in America.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield 
further, we talk about the culture of corruption and cronyism and the 
total lack of competence on a regular basis in our 30-Something Working 
Group, and we are really zeroing in on the incompetence tonight, the 
incompetence and the indifference, because really the two are hand-in-
glove.
  Mr. Delahunt, you talked about the economic tsunami, and I want to 
follow up on that, but let us build up to the economic tsunami that you 
have been describing.
  First, Mr. Meek talks about the debt, the debt under this President 
being more than the combined total of the previous 42 presidents prior 
to this one.
  Now, we have a chart over here that talks about the Defense budget 
deficits. Let us just look at the two years when we transitioned from 
President Clinton to President Bush. If you look in fiscal year 2001 
and fiscal year 2002, fiscal year 2001, we had a surplus of $128.2 
billion. You move into fiscal year 2002, and we have a deficit of 
$157.8 billion.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Incompetence.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. If that is not evidence of incompetence, how 
do you have that big a swing from one year to the next, with the only 
difference being the person in the White House?
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Can I just make a point there, because I think it 
just fits right into there? $100 billion more in Iraq, $200 billion we 
have already spent, $100 million here for media campaigns. We have 
Republican media consultants slopping at the trough of the Defense 
Department so that they can put on a PR campaign in Afghanistan when 
the Afghanistan people do not even want it. The same in Iraq.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. It keeps going: $157.8 billion; a $377.6 
billion deficit the next year; $412.1 billion deficit the year after 
that. We are getting a little better; we go back to $319 billion. Now 
we are at $323 billion. So the track record here is that there was one 
dip in the whole time that this President has been in office, and now 
we are climbing back again.
  Yet, supposedly, we just passed the Deficit Reduction Act. If you are 
going to zero in on the incompetence, talk about the fact that the 9/11 
Commission just came out with a report grading this administration and 
this Congress an F on the necessary follow-up to their recommendations. 
There is still no unified list of terror suspects for use by air travel 
screeners. There has been a misallocation of funds in terms of Homeland 
Security money. You have big city police and firefighters who still 
lack the ability to talk to each other. They lack the communications 
systems that were one of the key recommendations.
  Remember, after 9/11, if you know nothing about what happened after 
9/11, the thing that sticks in everyone's mind was it was so shocking 
that these police and firefighters, between agencies, city to county 
and station to station, could not talk to each other because their 
communications systems do not line up. They could not talk to the FBI. 
That has not been fixed. It is just unbelievable.
  They are still cutting. They are still cutting. They are still 
cutting the budget, and they are cutting taxes. They are giving more 
money to wealthy people, not just your run-of-the-mill average wealthy 
person, but the top two-tenths of 1 percent of the wealthiest people in 
America, people who make more than $1 million annually.
  So, Mr. Delahunt, you talk about an economic tsunami. The policies 
that have been going on in this administration and in this Congress, it 
is not just an economic tsunami. What the American people have been hit 
with is Hurricane Republican. You really cannot describe it any other 
way, because they have been hit by Katrina, they have been hit by Rita, 
they have been hit by Wilma. And instead of fixing it, instead of 
addressing the problems that the American people need addressed, they 
have now been hit by Hurricane Republican.

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  Or they are about to. We can stave it off. We could stave if off 
because there is a conference report. A bill is passed out of the 
House. A bill is passed out of the Senate. The cuts Mr. Delahunt 
described do not have to happen. There is still time to rethink this 
and come together and truly work together, which in my 11 months here 
just has not happened enough. There are isolated pockets of instances 
when we do work together, and I know compromise is possible.
  I am praying that that happens because the aftermath of the Hurricane 
Republican could be worse than Katrina, but it does not have to be that 
way. I yield to the gentleman from Florida.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Can I amend that chart and say Hurricane 
Republican Majority, because we represent Republicans that believe in 
what we are talking about here tonight. Goodness gracious, the average 
Republican's stomach would turn if they even knew half of what is 
happening in this House. You can have a convention or you can have a 
pep talk or you can go on a radio show and give one side, but these are 
facts, not fiction. There are third-party validators behind all of 
these numbers. They can go on the U.S. Treasury Web site and find that 
we are borrowing more in the history than any of the other 42 
Presidents before this President from foreign countries. The deficit is 
higher than it has ever been before.
  The Republican majority is saying we are not going to leave until we 
pass this budget on the backs of the American people. I added ``backs 
of the American people.'' We are not going to leave until we pass this 
tax cut for millionaires and billionaires and special interests. We are 
not going to leave until they get what they want or what we want them 
to have.
  Instead of them saying, We are not going to leave until we make sure 
that Americans do not have to pay three times as much for heating and 
oil. We are not going to leave until we put forth a bipartisan health 
care plan. We are not going to leave until veterans get their fair 
share out of the Federal Government and we do what we are supposed to 
do. And we are not going to leave until we pressure this administration 
to come up with a strategy for Iraq because as we were talking earlier, 
the bottom line is is it for everything that has happened in Iraq, and 
maybe Mr. Ryan will want to elaborate on this little more, there has 
been a time line. But when we start talking about our troops, our men 
and women that are in harm's way, oh, we cannot talk about time lines 
now.
  Talk about the Iraqi elections, the President just gave a speech 
saying, well, the elections, this is happening and a permanent 
parliament will be in place. They will be seated sometime in March, and 
it is going just as planned. Well, guess what, the insurgency knew 
about the elections, the insurgency knew of every other benchmark that 
we put forth; but when it comes down to our men and women, four marines 
died today. When it comes down to our men and women we cannot ask any 
questions?
  Excuse me, we all salute one flag I think. I think just as the 
President has the prerogative to say that this Member is wrong or 
Congress is wrong or that Senator is incorrect, we can say the same 
thing under this democracy, Mr. Speaker. I think the American people 
have risen up. It is not a question if they have arrived yet to this 
conclusion, that we need a plan. We need a plan so our troops know 
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Department can stop acting like the State Department and replace them 
with diplomats. Just like Mr. Murtha has said, we need a diplomatic 
solution to Iraq.
  Yes, we can do things on the horizon. Yes, we can come in and carry 
out operations here and there, but to have our troops carrying out 
convoys on the grounds of Iraq so that the insurgency can continue to 
pick off 10 and five and eight, these are American families. I think we 
all in this House should be passionate as if we had children in harm's 
way. Period. Dot.
  If my son or daughter were there, I would want a plan, a plan to 
where it just does not move based on what the President says about stay 
the course. Stay the course for what? Stay the course for what? For the 
elections? We have a plan there. We know when the elections are going 
to happen. The insurgents know when their government is going to be 
placed. But to say if we reveal that then it will hurt our operations 
there. Rhetoric.
  So I think it is important if we are going to stay here, and I am 
prepared to stay, I am prepared to stay until we deal with the real 
energy crisis that we have here at home, until we deal with health 
care, until we make sure that jobs are secure here in America, until we 
make sure that we get a real budget that is going to decrease the 
budget and we are record breaking.
  I want to say this in closing out the comments here, an editorial 
from the Lafayette Daily Advertiser. I talked this out with the 
gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Wasserman Schultz) because we went 
through Wilma. We were here fighting on behalf of Hurricane Katrina 
victims and survivors. Meanwhile, while we are fighting, a hurricane 
hits our district. Now we are having to talk about not only Katrina, 
but Rita, Wilma, and a number of other storms. This could be in a paper 
in a Member's district soon: ``Tax Cuts to the Rich Shouldn't Come At 
Gulf Coast Expense.''
  Let me take one paragraph from here:
  ``We can't afford a levee protection system for south Louisiana, but 
we can afford to give away $56 billion over the next 5 years to people 
who don't need it.''
  Now this is what the paper is saying. It is not what I am saying.
  There is not enough money to help the people pay their mortgage on 
uninhabitable homes that insurance companies will not pay for, but we 
will give millions to millionaires, $32,000 extra each year in tax 
breaks.
  Like I said, if it was a perfect world at this point, I would assume 
that it would be okay, but it is not. We have Americans living in 
tents. We have Americans thinking about, I heard some Members coming to 
the floor talking about Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, you name it, the 
high religious season that we are getting into now. Meanwhile, we are 
giving notices to Americans that you are going to be evicted, a judge 
had to step in and say not so. A judge had to step in.
  We have Members here that are throwing rocks at the judiciary. I say 
thank God for the judiciary in this case. Someone needs to stop this 
culture of corruption and cronyism and incompetence. And I would add 
incompetence as it relates to evicting Americans. Meanwhile, we are 
record breaking spending money over in Iraq right now with no plan, no 
plan to say we need to take the training wheels off the Iraqi 
Government and let them know. Just like we can have elections on time, 
we can have a redeployment plan on time and we are offering that 
option.
  I ask some of my Republican colleagues on the other time, and some of 
them are, a very small group, but I asked them to be able to rise up 
because when historians in the very near future, and I do say the very 
near future, when they start looking at what we were doing and, guess 
what, what the Republican majority was not doing under the 
circumstances, I think that there is going to be a price to pay 
politically for the inaction that they have not taken.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Sometimes incompetence is benign. We all 
interact with people who make mistakes, who maybe are not up to the par 
that we would like them to be. But not when the stakes are this high, 
not when you are talking about the people who are running the 
Government of the United States of America. I mean, not when 
incompetence results in debts.
  The thousands of people that are harmed or died as a result of 
Katrina, incompetence hurt them or killed them. Governor Blanco today, 
thank God for technology, we talked about that last week a little bit. 
E-mail technology allows us to know now as opposed to what goes in a 
paper shredder, that the White House, Homeland Security, and FEMA all 
knew what was going on down in New Orleans immediately following 
Katrina and as she was approaching; and they either did nothing or did 
not know what to do.
  That kind of incompetence is dangerous. When it is benign you can 
look the other way and you can sort of throw up your hands and say, 
well, those are just things you have to deal with when you encounter 
incompetence. We cannot allow incompetence to reach the heights that we 
have in this country.
  Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I would suggest that that incompetence has 
characterized this administration for the past 5 years. And I say that 
with no glee. I say that purely from a concern about the quality of 
life that our people are experiencing here in this country as a result 
of miscalculations, incompetence, and a blind belief and denial of 
reality.
  Do you remember prior to the war when we were told by the Secretary 
of Defense, and now I am going to quote Mr. Rumsfeld, ``When it comes 
to reconstruction, before we turn to the American taxpayer, we will 
turn first to the resources of the Iraqi Government and the 
international community.''
  His deputy Paul Wolfowitz, he made the following statement: There is 
a lot of money to pay for this that does not have to be U.S. taxpayer 
money and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. We are dealing 
with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction.
  If you remember the name of President Bush's chief economic adviser, 
Larry Lindsey, when he predicted that the cost of the war with Iraq 
would range somewhere between 100 and $200 billion, he was dismissed, 
he was fired.
  I do not want tonight to talk about intelligence and the issue of 
weapons of mass destruction and links to al Qaeda, et cetera, et 
cetera; but there has consistently been mistakes and miscalculations 
because there is such a conviction of righteousness, if you will.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, can I make a comment?
  We have the poster here from Newsweek that has our esteemed leader in 
a bubble and it is called the ``Isolated President.'' And I think this 
goes to exactly what the gentleman was just saying and what Ms. 
Wasserman Schultz was just saying and what Mr. Meek of Florida was just 
saying.
  The comments that Secretary Wolfowitz made and Secretary Rumsfeld 
just were not true. The comments about the tax cuts and what they would 
do for average people just did not turn out to be true. And about the 
war and how we would progress just did not come to be true. And the 
bubble here symbolizes all these people like Mr. Lindsey who are 
saying, no, it is going to cost us $200 billion and they fire him. And 
the general who said we are going to need a couple hundred thousand 
troops in order to do this properly, and they dismissed him too. It 
turns out that we needed all these troops there.
  It just seems that this administration does not want to hear from 
other outside viewpoints in order for us to fix this problem.
  Now, Mr. Meek was talking about what I found very interesting. I have 
the President's speech here that he was talking about earlier, and the 
President talks about the first milestone we had was the transfer of 
sovereignty at the end of June. And the second milestone was the Iraqi 
election, and the third milestone, if we had these milestones as Mr. 
Meek said, these benchmarks, when we were going to transfer,

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when the election was going to be, when the interim government was 
going to take place, then December 15, which is coming up in just a day 
or two, we had benchmarks.

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  So why would we not have benchmarks for when we are going to get out? 
That is all we are arguing here.
  No Child Left Behind, in which we all agreed on, the Republican 
majority has not funded it, which was a key element, but we agreed that 
schools need to be accountable, and if you do not hit certain levels, 
you are not helping kids.
  Accountability, the President talks a lot about accountability. We 
need to just say, Mr. President, this administration, Mr. Secretary, 
you need to be accountable, need to be accountable in Iraq, accountable 
for the budget deficit, accountable for cutting food stamps and giving 
tax cuts to the top 1 percent. You need to take responsibility for 
that.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. You are absolutely right. The President is 
trying to get away with saying generically, amorphously, we are not 
going to withdraw traps and withdraw from Iraq until we have results on 
the ground, results-oriented withdrawal.
  I want to know, my constituents want to know, the American people 
want to know, what does that mean? Does it mean when the Iraqi troops 
are 50 percent independent and cannot operate on their own and protect 
their own country, 75, 23? Which is it? You cannot pick and choose. He 
cannot be allowed to pick and choose which elements of the process in 
Iraq he is going to put a number on and which element he is not going 
to.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, can I make another comment in addition 
to what you just said, why are not the people who are in his 
administration being held accountable? You tell the American people and 
you talk them into something by saying it is not going to cost you any 
money, we are going to use the oil revenue, we are only going to be 
there a little while, we will not need as many troops as we actually do 
really need; why were not any of those people held accountable for 
their mistakes, all the mistakes that were being made? We went to Iraq, 
and we are on the Armed Services Committee, and we support the Defense 
appropriations and body armor and up-armor. We were on all the letters, 
all the pressure that was applied to make sure these troops had what 
they needed. We were there to support them every step of the way. No 
one's going to tell me that I am not supporting the troops, but someone 
needs to be held accountable.
  All the mistakes that were made, are you telling me that no one 
should get fired? Who is the guy who hired the contractor who committed 
fraud in the 1990s and then stole $200,000 in the last year or two? Who 
hired him? What is this Mike Brown all about? I mean, you hire cronies, 
they do an incompetent job, and no one gets fired.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Mr. Speaker, let me just insert one more thing 
because the Newsweek cover just says it all. In Bush's world, in the 
President's world, you do not have to have accountability. You do not 
have to put numbers on anything you do. You do not have to say what 
percentage prepared the troops have to be, and you are never wrong.
  I have had to teach my kids, and they love to insist that they do not 
make mistakes. That is the orientation of a juvenile. My young children 
do not understand that sometimes they are wrong and this is okay and 
that you should learn how to change course. But in Bush's world, in the 
President's world, that does not happen. Because he is the President, 
he apparently has surrounded himself with people who either cannot 
convince him that he is wrong or he has surrounded himself with people 
that insist on agreeing with him all the time.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. So when they say after 5 years of all of the 
misrepresentation and all of the lack of accountability and the 
incompetence and the cronyism and the corruption, the culture of 
corruption that we have here, when you come to us 5 or 6 years later, 
in the midst of a war and huge budget deficits, and you say to the 
American people just trust us, it becomes very difficult for us to just 
trust.
  Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I am going to refer in a moment to this 
chart to my left, but I think in fairness we have to note that just 
this past week, for the first time, President Bush has acknowledged 
that mistakes were made. I want to commend him for that, and I know we 
all share that.
  He acknowledged last week ``that the multibillion dollar 
reconstruction of Iraq,'' and I am using his words now, ``has `been 
uneven' and hobbled by corruption, misplaced priorities and insurgent 
attacks.'' This report is from the Washington Post. It is dated 
December 8. It goes on to state: ``In an unusually stark assessment of 
the situation in Iraq,'' the President ``described several strategic 
errors in managing a rebuilding effort that he said proceeded in `fits 
and starts.' By learning from its mistakes,'' the President said ``the 
administration has reshaped its approach.''
  I think it is important that we note that. We welcome that. But it is 
long, long overdue, and as I said earlier, we are anticipating 
receiving in the next several months a request, a supplemental request, 
for an additional $100 billion. Let us talk about what our priorities 
are in terms of the American people and our involvement in Iraq.
  I was here when a supplemental budget came before us. I, and others, 
advocated that rather than just simply giving this money for 
reconstruction to the so-called interim government that we put it in 
the form of a loan. Every other major donor country insisted, clearly 
providing favorable terms and conditions and years to repay, but that 
they would be reimbursed so that their children and grandchildren would 
not have to confront the order of magnitude that we see in terms of our 
deficits.
  Look at this chart for a minute. We are cutting $505 million on 
student loans, and the interest rates, therefore, will be higher. That 
is a cut to a generation of students that we need to be engaged at the 
highest level to compete in this global economy. Yet, at the same time, 
we are providing $508 million of transportation and communication, 
including construction of 28 railroad stations in Iraq's southern 
provinces, and we will never see a dime of that. That is a giveaway. 
That is a grant. Despite the words of Secretary Rumsfeld and Under 
Secretary Wolfowitz, that said that we would not have to pay a dime of 
American taxpayer dollars, what we are doing is we are funding that 
project and cutting necessary programs for Americans, and we are giving 
it away overseas.
  The tragedy of it all is that there is pervasive corruption going on 
in Iraq today with those dollars, and the President has acknowledged 
that. He has acknowledged the fact that there is corruption today in 
Iraq and American taxpayers dollars are being misused and wasted and 
stolen. Meanwhile, our own people are suffering.
  That is wrong, Mr. Speaker. That ought not to be happening, and there 
is a responsibility on the part of this Congress, because we have not 
had a single oversight hearing, despite the requests of many Members, 
including myself, to take a good and hard look at this massive 
corruption that is ongoing today as we speak in Iraq.
  Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ. Just before we close down in our last couple 
of minutes, we have been talking about the culture of corruption and 
cronyism and incompetence, zeroing in on incompetence today, and we are 
about third party validators. It is not just that we say it.
  We got an e-mail on our 30-Something Web site that responded to some 
of the things we have been talking about. It was actually a Mr. Miller 
from Connecticut who said, ``You folks are a great breath of fresh air. 
I like the theme of `a culture of corruption, cronyism, and 
incompetence.' Well put, but incomplete. The massive rampant 
incompetence of this administration,'' he said, ``is a huge problem, no 
doubt. But for me, a bigger problem is their fundamental disbelief in 
democratic processes of checks and balances combined with overwhelming 
ideological arrogance that allows belief to trump evidence.''

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  I could not have said it better myself.

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  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. I want to say, and I know Mr. Miller was being 
complimentary of us when he said he liked the culture of corruption, 
but I do not like it. I do not like it.
  I do not like coming down here and trying to inform the American 
people what third-party validators are saying about what is going on 
down here in a negative way. Because I would hope we could come down 
here with solutions and work on it and talk about how we are making 
this better, how we are having oversight hearings and everything else. 
Do not think for one second we like it. But this is going on here and 
the American people need to hear about it.
  [email protected]. That is 30, the number, 
[email protected].
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, we would like to thank the 
Democratic leader for the time tonight.

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