[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 151 (2005), Part 20]
[House]
[Pages 27866-27872]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                       30-SOMETHING WORKING GROUP

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. McHenry). Under the Speaker's announced 
policy of January 4, 2005, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Meek) is 
recognized for 60 minutes.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, it is an honor to appear before the 
House again this evening. My colleague on the other side and I, we are 
here almost every night.
  I just wanted to say the new government, of course the election will 
take place December 15. They will not be seated until March. I know 
that sometimes we are having to close and say things and we are under 
the clock. They are going to be seated in March. Then we are going to 
have to wait to see how they feel about us, the United States of 
America, not having a plan as it relates to being able to draw down our 
troops, allow a NATO force to go in. I just left there the week before. 
I met with General Dewey talking about the NATO force that is going to 
come in after hopefully we start to draw down our troops.
  So we have to allow that process to take place. But I do appreciate 
some of information you shared tonight with Members of the House. Thank 
you for your service here.
  Mr. Speaker, I cannot help but tell you that the 30-Something Working 
Group, we continue to work hard, not only working hard on behalf of the 
people that we represent in our given districts throughout the country, 
but also representing the entire population of the United States of 
America.
  As you know, and I have mentioned night after night, this is truly 
the people's House. You cannot be appointed to the U.S. House of 
Representatives; you have to run. If someone resigns or leaves the 
House for some reason, a special election is set by the Governor.
  If a Senator were to leave, as we see right now, the Senator of New 
Jersey was elected Governor of that State, he has to make the decision 
on who he wants to fill that seat. That will be by appointment. That 
individual will serve until that next election until that term is out.
  But not in the House. So that is the reason why we are like on the 
frontlines of providing the American people with the kind of leadership 
that they deserve. Now, I want to talk a little bit about leadership 
and responsibility. I also want to compare, in a way, because, Mr. 
Speaker, I hope and I wish and my prayer is that there can be a 
paradigm shift here in the House of Representatives, a paradigm shift 
in a way that we can all work together in a bipartisan way on a number 
of issues.
  I think the issues that we are facing now, there is a health care 
crisis in this country, could be addressed in a bipartisan way. I think 
some of the issues that some Members of the House brought up as it 
relates to Social Security, we are definitely concerned about some of 
the issues that are facing Social Security.
  But the majority side tried to ram it down the throats of the 
American people to privatize Social Security versus fixing Social 
Security in a way that it will be here for generations beyond the 50 
years that it is already set to provide the services at today's levels 
to the recipients of Social Security, need it be disability or 
retirement or survivor benefits.
  In a bipartisan way, we can move in that direction. That is what the 
American people want. As it relates to making sure that we can keep 
U.S. jobs on U.S. soil, we can do that in a bipartisan way. And I must 
say bipartisan, because when the Democrats were in the majority, we did 
do things in a bipartisan way. Right now we are under an environment, 
we are as partisan as we can be, not because we have the control to 
make ourselves partisan, it is the fact that we cannot have input in 
making sure here in this House on the Democratic side, we are not 
allowed to have the kind of input, because the majority believes so 
shall it be written, so shall it be done.
  Just watch what we do. If you question us, we will insult you, or we 
would say, oh, well, you do not quite know what is going on. Oh, you 
just want to derail our plan. Why do we not have a unified plan for 
America? And that is what Americans are calling for.
  I want to talk a little bit about the budget, talk about the 
responsibility that we must have as we start moving forward. We want 
this country to strengthen, not only in security, but also in unity, 
and make sure that we protect the environment, and make sure that we 
protect the homeland as it relates to homeland security, to make sure 
for the very individuals that are getting sand in their teeth now, be 
it Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan or Iraq, we have to make 
sure that we run this country in a way that it should be run, so that 
not only this generation but future generations can celebrate not only 
personal finance but also making sure that they are safe.
  The Republicans passed the $54 billion cuts in the budget. I must say 
that it is quite crippling, Mr. Speaker. The Republican majority will 
add to the deficit some $8 trillion under what the majority calls, Mr. 
Speaker, a deficit reduction. We passed a budget of $52 billion today. 
We took action today to increase the budget by $8 trillion. That is 
according to the Department of Treasury.
  It is important to also let every American know that this number is 
inching up. In the 108th Congress, it was lower. The beginning of this 
Congress, it was even lower. But now it is higher: $6,983.89 cents 
every American owes as it relates to the debt. You would have some 
believe or have Americans believe and some Members believe here in this 
Congress that we are doing the right thing by the American people by 
putting them further into debt.
  It is almost like the high-interest credit card that you receive in 
the mail. I get them all the time. I mean, they mail credit cards to 
me. Sign right here. No problem. Interest free for the first 3 months. 
But in the fine print, I must say in this Congress on the majority side 
there is a lot of fine print. There is a $75 annual fee that will be 
tacked onto the credit card even before you use it. Just by you signing 
it and mailing it back in, that is $75.
  And then the interest rate goes up, if you read the fine print, if 
you are late on one payment. It goes up to a 24 percent interest rate, 
because you signed that contract.
  Well, the American people went into the ballot box on a given Tuesday 
in a given community to vote for representation, not for individuals to 
exploit the fact that they are here to represent them and turn their 
head when proposals are put forth that can help save the American 
taxpayer money in the short and long run.
  And so we are going to talk a little bit tonight about what we call 
here in Washington, D.C., the Potomac two-step. We are going to talk 
about what some people call in parts of the country ``hoodwink.''
  So we want to make sure that people understand what is going on here 
with third-party validators, not just fiction, not just what they say, 
or not just what some unidentified Member said on the floor. We are 
going to make sure that the Members know exactly what is going on, how 
it is going on, and when it is going on. It is going on right now.
  I always say, Mr. Speaker, when the historians look at the 109th 
Congress, they are going to be looking at fiscal irresponsibility. They 
are going to say, how did this happen? How did we try to nation-build 
in Iraq when we had leaders, be it the executive branch or Members here 
in the Congress, say we are not in the business of nation-building? Now 
we are in the business of nation-building.
  We are in the business of nation-building in a foreign land. We do 
not want anyone else to be a part of it. We do not want folks to come 
in and be a part of what we have to do to be able to allow the Iraqi 
Government to move in a direction so they can be self-sufficient. We 
must take the training wheels off the Iraqi Government.
  Being a Member of the Armed Services Committee, I must add, Mr. 
Speaker, it is important that we give them some direction as it relates 
to security forces and as it relates to the responsibility of their 
very own government. And whatever internal conflicts

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that may go on on that given plan, if we may see it from the 
leadership, not just talking about we are going to have complete 
victory without really looking at how you are going to bring about 
complete victory, but if we are going to continue to stay and spend the 
taxpayers' money when U.S. cities are hurting, and when the American 
people are hurting, then we really have to look at our checks and 
balances.

                              {time}  1900

  That is the only thing I can share with the Members. All we can do is 
what we present here in the Congress. We play under the rules of the 
majority side. But I believe the American people, they do have a voice 
in this.
  Now, I would feel a little uncomfortable talking about that, Mr. 
Speaker, if I did not see poll after poll that the American people 
disagree with what the administration is saying, with what the White 
House is saying, with what the majority of Republicans are saying. So I 
can see if I was all by myself in saying, folks do not necessarily feel 
that. I do not know what the Democrats are talking about. I do not know 
what the 30-something Working Group folks are talking about in 
Congress. No, we are talking about what the American people are talking 
about, and we are here to give them voice.
  Going back to this budget, $12 billion in Medicaid cuts over the next 
5 years; $12 billion in Medicaid cuts over the next 5 years; $47.7 
billion in Medicaid over 10 years. The Democratic budget that we wanted 
to bring to the floor, we were not even allowed to bring to the floor 
under the rules. We did have it in the committee, made no cuts to 
Medicaid.
  I think it is important that people realize what is happening. I am 
going to share these cuts and then we will talk about today's action. 
You have the Republican raid on student loan aid or student aid to help 
young people make it to college. $14.3 billion cuts in students aid 
programs. $14.3 billion. I am just going to let that sink in. $14.3 
billion. And I think that is important for people to understand. $7.8 
billion in new charges on student loans that students and parents 
borrow. That is $7.8 billion, everyday Americans, Democrats, 
Republicans, heartland, east coast, west coast, Northeast, Southeast, 
Northwest, east Texas. We are not discriminating where you are from.
  The bottom line is that you will pay more in charges for student 
loans that you borrow to educate your children and educate yourselves. 
And the Democratic budget as it relates to student aid, zero cuts, 
zero. I am going to let that sink in. Zero. A typical student, an 
individual that graduates, is $17,500 in debt. Over the last 5 years, 
tuition has gone up 57 percent at public colleges and universities. 
Tuition has gone up 32 percent at private colleges and universities. 
Forty-one percent of college graduates have an average of $3,071 in 
credit card debt, and financial barriers already prevent 4.4 million 
high school graduates from attending college.
  Now, that is today's statistics. By the time this budget passes, we 
will find ourselves in deep trouble right here again on this chart, Mr. 
Speaker. I want to make sure that the Members see this because these 
are the facts. It is not fiction. This is not something that was drawn 
up in the backroom and said, oh, we will just say that, we will just 
say that they did this. This is actually what happened in the budget 
that passed this House, the Republican budget.
  Once again, a typical student graduates with $17,500 in debt. Over 
the last 5 years, tuition has gone up 57 percent in public colleges and 
universities. Tuition has gone up 32 percent in private colleges and 
universities. Forty-one percent of college grads average $3,071 in 
credit card debt, and financial barriers already prevent 4.4 million 
high school graduates from attending college.
  Now, Mr. Speaker, what the Republican Congress has done to the 
American people they have done with the $14.3 billion in cuts in 
students aid programs, and then to turn around $7.8 billion in new 
charges, that means that this statistic is going to go up from 44 to 
possibly over 50 percent. You want to talk about responsibility and who 
is on your side and who is not?
  We also have to look at the fact of what happened in this Republican 
budget that affects rural America. I got a lot of cousins in the area 
called Montezuma, Georgia, and they are farmers. And they farm and they 
really look to their government for assistance because we have given 
other countries subsidies so that they compete against our farmers. A 
billion dollars in cuts, a billion dollars in cuts in farm programs in 
the Republican budget, rural development research and energy programs, 
cuts, $1.1 billion. Conservation programs cut by $760 million; $844 
million reduction in the food stamp program.
  Also, when you look at rural America, I have to add in the over-$650 
million that they instructed the Republican majority budget, instructed 
the Committee on Veterans' Affairs to cut out of their budget over the 
next 5 years. And so I think it is important that people understand in 
rural America, veterans, farmers, people that are living in the 
heartland.
  I was in Kentucky a couple of years ago. Folks that are out there 
trying to make themselves whole, educate their children, you are 
getting a double whammy. Number one, we will take the very programs 
that assist you in the little way the U.S. Department of Agriculture is 
able to assist you. But when this Republican majority gets finished 
with you, if you happen to be a farmer, you are going to have big 
problems because we are around here cutting the budget to do what? What 
we did today: to give millionaires tax breaks. That is the way this 
thing circles back around.
  So let us just tell the whole story here. Let us just not flick and 
pick and say we will talk about this because that sounds good. Rural 
America, if you are a veteran, we have veterans clinics, not hospitals, 
clinics that are in rural America where they are only open one day a 
week now. When this Republican majority is finished with you, I do not 
know when it is going to be, once every 2 weeks, once a month. I mean, 
they are going to have to go in there and dust things off because they 
will not be able to operate it.
  I am going to get this next chart here as it relates to what the 
Republican budget cuts, how it affects children. I just want to take 
about 4 more minutes here because I think it is important. And I want 
the gentleman to get the chart that talks about the $87,000 gift we 
gave to billionaires. I mean, what the Republican majority gave to 
billionaires today, and talk about what the hardworking Americans, what 
they have got, they got peanuts when people got folding dollars to put 
in their pocket. You cannot put $87,000 in your pocket. You just cannot 
do that. But what the everyday American got, they will be lucky if they 
can even squeeze a dinner out of it.
  So let me talk a little bit more about this. The budget as it affects 
children, $4.9 billion in cuts from the child support enforcement 
programs, that is going to what, allow States attorneys and allow other 
agencies to go after deadbeat parents that walk out on their children 
and do not pay child support. We cut $4.9 billion, not million, not 
$4,900; 4.9, almost $5 billion from child support enforcement.
  Now, I did not get one letter from a sheriff that said we want that 
to happen. I did not get one letter from a State's attorney that says 
we really appreciate the fact that you cut $4.9 billion from child 
support; it is going to make our job harder. As a result, parents will 
receive $7.1 billion less in child support over the next 5 years. I am 
going to say that again because that is one of those things that must 
sink in with the American people. Democrat, Republican, Independent, 
Green Party, whatever you are, nonvoter, just everyday hardworking 
American.
  As a result of the Republican budget that passed this floor with 
Republican votes, not one Democrat vote for that budget that they 
passed, parents will receive $7.1 billion less in child support over 
the next 5 years and $21.3 billion less over the next 10 years; $577 
million cut from child care. I am going to let that sink in.

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  AARP, the very organization that represents seniors in this country, 
was opposed to this budget in the Medicaid cuts. Here is the letter 
right here. This is not on my stationery. It is on AARP stationery. 
Editorial after editorial talked about the fact that Americans that are 
trying to struggle and they are trying to make it, I heard a lot of 
talk today about, well, you know, if the Democrats have their way, you 
will not even be able to buy gifts for your children. Oh, please. That 
is weaker than watered down tea or lemonade. I do not know if the 
Members ever had lemonade that is watered down. It does not taste good. 
As a matter of fact, it does not even look good. It looks like water.
  I think it is important that the American people understand the 
bottom line is that people that make over half a million dollars are 
happy today. Corporations that have special interest contacts with the 
majority side and with the administration are happy today because once 
again they were able to bring about riches for them while the American 
people get crumbs. Watered down tea. Watered down lemonade.
  As it relates to prescription drugs, still seniors will have an 
opportunity to do great things for them. We still have seniors. Guess 
what they were getting? Watered down and cut-in-half drugs that they 
cannot even afford the full dose. I just would like to ask the 
gentleman if he would break down, I mean, I talked about these cuts 
because these cuts, I was told by the majority side that they were to 
set the stage to decrease the budget, not increase the budget. Oh, we 
have to make sure that we no longer deficit spend. And today we turn 
around, or the majority turns around, and do exactly that.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. The reason I think it is important that we are down 
here right now at 7:15 on a Thursday night when most Members have gone 
home is because we are talking about the future of our country. This is 
to run the deficit up another $30 billion in order to give tax cuts 
primarily to those millionaires. 45 percent of tax cuts that we passed 
today will go to millionaires. Forty-five percent.
  Now 45 percent of taxpayers are not millionaires, but they are going 
to get 45. So it is totally disproportionate to the average income in 
the United States of America. Here is what we have been doing before 
today as far as the tax cuts go. And if you have made $441,000 and up, 
you have got on average $87,000 back. $87,000 back. And today the 
average millionaire is going to get $32,000 more back. And that is so 
you are talking about a millionaire getting well over $100,000, 
$130,000 because this is the average: $130,000 back in tax cuts.
  You are talking about borrowing money from the Chinese Government, 
from the Japanese Government, from the Saudi Arabians in order to pay 
for this. We do not have money. We are not running a surplus right now.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. There is a war. There is a war going on.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. This President has been the first President in the 
history of our country to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans in a 
time of war. Where is the shared sacrifice? I mean, average people are 
struggling. I have a district that has thousands of Delphi workers, 
General Motors workers. We are hearing now that Ford is going to cut 
30,000 jobs and close 10 plants in North America. These are the 
challenges that people in middle America are facing, and the time and 
energy of this body is spent figuring out a way to reduce the tax 
burden.
  So I tell you what, if you make over a million dollars and you are 
out in America today, today has been a great day for you. This Congress 
has treated you pretty well. You are going to have a good holiday 
season probably for the next couple of years because of what has been 
happening.

                              {time}  1915

  Our obligation here is to represent the public. Our obligation here, 
when we swear to the Constitution, is to do what is best for the entire 
country and to do this in a couple of different ways.
  We are running a $323 billion deficit projected for 2006, $323 
billion that we are going to have to borrow in order to close the hole 
in the Nation's budget. We are borrowing that money from the Chinese, 
the Japanese, the Saudi Arabians and other countries.
  At the same time, because we are running those huge deficits, we are 
also giving tax cuts to the wealthiest people in the country. So, if 
you make over $440,000, you are going to get on average $87,000, plus 
what we did today. So you are talking about closer to $100,000. If you 
make between $34,000 and $54,000, that is what you get, $840. I think 
we said today that the average person who makes under $100,000, half of 
those people will get $30 back. So, if you make $100,000 a year, on 
average, half of those people will get $30 back today. That is not much 
of a middle class tax cut as far as I am concerned.
  We are moving in the wrong direction. At the same time that we are 
borrowing money from the Chinese, running these huge deficits, cutting 
taxes for the wealthiest people in our country, at the same time we are 
doing that, we are also cutting programs here in the United States, the 
food stamp program, the college tuition program. The Pell grant program 
is being cut. The child support enforcement program which will help 
fund local county commissioners and local county organizations to go 
out and get deadbeat dads who are not paying their child support, that 
is what we are cutting.
  It just does not make any sense, and I think the American people, 
when they start hearing this stuff, they intuitively know something 
wrong is happening. But I think when they hear the facts of what is 
going on in their government right now, this culture of corruption that 
is here is starting to make its way back into their households.
  Let me make one final comment point. At the same time we are doing 
all this, the legislation that we are passing out of here is benefiting 
the interest groups that donate a lot of money to our friends on the 
other side, to the Republican majority, and this body, this Congress 
and this White House has been used as a sand box, as a trough to where 
the cronies, the Michael Browns who are running FEMA and the seven or 
eight top people at FEMA, this administrator who was over in Iraq who 
had $87 million to administer in the war and took a couple of hundred 
thousand in kickbacks, who was convicted of fraud in the 1990s, they 
hired him anyway because he was a crony of one of the administration 
officials. This is completely incompetence and an inability to govern, 
and these tax cuts are out of control, and they are happening at the 
expense of average people.
  Again, today has been great day for the millionaires in the United 
States.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I hate to break in when you have a 
stream of thoughts that are there, but I wanted to just share just one 
moment, and I think it is important for us to realize, when you start 
talking about what is happening and how we got to where we are, Mr. 
Speaker, once again my famous chart we know we have to put more on to 
it.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. There is more than that.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. We have to put more into this and we have to do 
more with this. Matter of fact, I want to make sure that staff get this 
on. It is factual. Matter of fact, it is from the department of the 
U.S. Treasury so this is not fiction. This is third party validators. I 
am going to possibly get this on my Web site if it is not already on 
there, on my House Web site, to make sure the American people 
understand what is happening to them.
  $1.05 trillion this President has borrowed along with this Republican 
Congress here in this House and over in the Senate. Forty-two 
Presidents before this President, $1.01 trillion, 224 years, 1776 to 
2000. I am going to say that again, year 1776 to the year 2000, $1.01 
trillion borrowed from foreign Nations. From this government, one 
President, one Republican majority, $1.05 trillion.
  Oh, we know exactly what we are doing on the majority side. They say, 
oh, yes, the Democrats, they do not have any thoughts on balancing the 
budget and making our country more sound financially; we have all the 
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ideas. Well, guess what, the great ideas have countries like China, 
Saudi Arabia, Japan, just to name a few, their hand in our cookie jar. 
They have a piece of the American pie right now, not because they took 
it. It is because the Republican majority gave it to them on a silver 
platter.
  The Republican majority is saying we can go to war, we can Nation 
build in a foreign land, we can also give tax cuts to billionaires and 
millionaires and give the American people peanuts in a tax cut. The 
first time in the history of this country, there is a lot of record-
breaking things that are going on here, and it is not all good. $1.05 
trillion, Mr. Speaker, in money that foreign Nations that we borrowed 
from foreign Nations. That is making history in the wrong way.
  I do not see anyone coming to the floor on the majority side saying 
guess what we have done, $1.05 trillion, we have borrowed more than 42 
Presidents before this President and before this Republican House, we 
have done that. We have done it. We have accomplished that. No one is 
cheerleading about that. No one is willing to talk about that. So, if 
we want to level with the American people, let us tell them the truth. 
Go on to the U.S. Treasury Web site.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Some people say what does that have to do with the 
30 Somethings, are we not supposed to talk about the interests of 
college education and child tax credits and that stuff? No. The future 
of our country is being placed in another country's hands, which gives 
up control of our own destiny because we are going to have to make 
payments.
  It is just like when you go to a bank. You borrow money, you have to 
pay interest on that money, and we are borrowing it from the Chinese. 
We are going to have to pay interest on it, and the Chinese are taking 
that interest. They have a lot of State-owned companies that they are 
going to pump our money back into. It is bad enough that General Motors 
and Delphi and a lot of these other corporations are investing money 
into China. Now they are getting it from the American taxpayer, and the 
Chinese Government will invest that money into their economy, whether 
it is in the auto industry or some other industry. They will have that 
money invested into their economy, long term.
  This is a dangerous proposition to not balance your budget in the 
United States of America, and we are Democrats. We believe in a 
balanced budget. We believe in fiscal discipline. This long-term 
recklessness coming from the Republican party and Republican leadership 
is putting our country in danger, not just danger, grave danger.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, let me just say this. I will not 
say it is the Republican party because I know some Republicans that are 
upset about what this Republican majority has done to the deficit. You 
know why we can speak with meaning and with backing on the Democratic 
side? Because we have actually balanced the budget and took it into 
surplus when we were in control of this House, Mr. Speaker. That is not 
fiction. That is fact.
  So for folks that run around here and talk about what could be, what 
we will have if we do this and are using these words, going out and 
taking polls and saying how can we John Wayne this thing with the one 
liner, let me tell you something. The reality is here in America we are 
weakening a country, not a foreign country, weaken a country, not the 
special interests that come down here and from Shakedown Street like 
Mr. Ryan said, weaken a country. We are the ones carrying the voting 
cards. We are the stewards of this government. We are the Americans 
that were chosen out of many to come to this House and represent the 
people of the United States, not represent special interests, not 
represent the billionaires that are saying keep the tax cuts going 
while I watch a war on CNN and MSNBC and WorldNews Tonight as 
entertainment, saying, oh, wow, another bomb. That is not what they 
sent us up here for. They sent us up here to lead. We have to make the 
tough decisions, and I want to say this.
  It is important that we take our job seriously, in a serious way, and 
when we come to this floor this is not political rhetoric. I have gone 
to Iraq twice, not because someone asked me to go. It was because I 
wanted to go. I met with our troops. I have talked to our troops, our 
soldiers, Marines. I have talked to the commanders. We are both on 
Armed Services. We have heard it since the war started what they have 
been telling us, what the President has been telling us, what the 
Iraqis have been telling us.
  Now it is time to lead. It is time to lead in the way of making sure 
we make right decisions, not only on what happens in Iraq, but what 
happens here in the United States of America, period.
  So I think it is important. Folks can have as many press conferences 
as they want to have. We need to have action in giving the American 
people the direction that they are asking for. One poll says 28 
percent, another poll says 33 percent approval rating because they want 
more leadership out of us. They want better and more sound ideas out of 
us.
  Mr. Speaker, they want a bipartisan approach to the issues that are 
facing Americans today, and they do not see it. That is the reason why 
they are frustrated, and they are frustrated because they understand 
what the Republican majority is doing, not allowing Democrats to be 
able to put amendments on legislation, not allowing Democrats to offer 
their budget here on this floor, not allowing Democrats to play a vital 
role in making sure that this country is on equal footing with other 
countries.
  So when folks want to talk about being partisan, that is a party 
game. That is a political game. That is not an American game. What I am 
saying is that the real issue here is the fact that, yes, we come to 
the floor and point out the fact that we are working in a culture of 
corruption and cronyism and incompetence. You know something, if 
somebody gets upset about that, anybody gets upset about that, that is 
a personal problem because it is going on.
  This is not the Kendrick Meek/Tim Ryan Report. It is not the 30 
Something Report. This is reality. You pick up the paper. You watch the 
news. We have got investigations going on over in the White House. We 
have got investigations going on here in the Congress, and at an 
unprecedented rate, national security breaches. This is by the majority 
that says trust us, we are the folks that you can trust. So I think it 
is important that we point that out.
  Pointing that out, does that mean now we can cannot play in this 
democracy with the ideas that we have, ideas to be able to help this 
country become even stronger? That is in the job. We come to Congress 
to strengthen the country, not to weaken a country financially, and so 
I think it is important that we realize that.
  We said last night you cannot run a business, you cannot go to talk 
to shareholders and say, listen, do not worry about it. We know that 
the business, it is like with Enron, the company. It is not like they 
can go to their shareholders and admit, well, you know, we know that we 
have a culture of corruption and cronyism and incompetence and we know 
that even when it has been pointed out, it still continues here in the 
corporate headquarters, but do not worry, everything's going to be 
okay. We know we are borrowing money and we are running deficits, but 
if we just stay the course, we will end up coming out some kind of way. 
That CEO will be fired on the spot.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, we know when the shareholders ask the 
leaders of the corporation, we want to see the books, we want to see 
what is going on, the leaders of the corporation or the business cannot 
say no, no, no, you are not allowed to see that.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. If they ask to see the books and they ask to 
take part and are trying to help with the problem, trying to get out of 
the hole that you are in a financial way and they are called, well, you 
must be a mole from another company; no, you are not really with us, 
name calling, attacks. That will not happen because the bottom line is 
that they will not allow it.

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                              {time}  1930

  So here in the Congress, we have to make sure as it relates to this 
culture of corruption and cronyism and incompetence that we should not 
allow it to happen.
  That is the reason why the hour before, I mean some folks say, why 
would you give the Speaker credit? I give the Speaker credit by saying 
there should be some ethics courses here in this House. That is a 
start, okay? If we have a problem, first we have to say we have a 
problem and then we can be on the road to recovery.
  But if we deny that we have a problem, if we look at the front page 
of the paper and say, oh, I just do not want to read it today because 
it is talking about what is happening in the workplace, well, that may 
be okay if you are in a private company somewhere and you do not have 
stockholders and it is your money, that is your deal; but when you have 
the American people and you are using their money and you are making 
decisions on behalf of a country and you are not willing to look at the 
issues that are facing us right now as relates to governance, then you 
are making your problem the American people's problem and the 
taxpayers' problem.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. And to take the analogy even further with the 
business, how can you just keep going on borrowing, borrowing, 
borrowing, borrowing, borrowing? That is all we are doing right now. 
This is the national debt today, $8.120 trillion. That is a lot of 
money, $8 trillion.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Right.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. And each person at home owes $27,000.
  We have a notice today that we are going to finish up next week and 
we are all going to go home for the holidays, Christmas and Hanukah. I 
cannot wait to get to our Christmas Eve party. We have a Christmas Eve 
party every year. My mom is Italian, and my Uncle Joe Guerra, who lives 
in Florida now, is in charge of the sauce. He is going to be making the 
sauce, and he is going to ask me, what did you do last year in 
Congress? And I am going to say, well, Uncle Joe, you owe $27,000 to 
the national debt, and the country has borrowed $8 trillion, and that 
is what we all owe. And as I stated a couple of hours ago when we were 
here, Nicholas John Ryan, born 3 weeks ago to my brother and his wire 
Carrie, he owes $27,000, just like that.
  Now that is no way to run a country. And when the Democrats are 
talking about balancing the budget and we talk about making some tough 
decisions and maybe having to go ask a millionaire to maybe pay their 
fair share in order to reduce the debt and to reduce the annual 
deficits that we are running, we cannot find anyone with any courage on 
the other side. But when they have the opportunity to cut Medicaid, to 
cut the free and reduced lunches, to cut the budget for child support 
enforcement agencies in our local communities, who go out and try to 
get money from deadbeat dads, that is where they want to get the money 
from.
  Now, we are not saying that government does not need reform, that we 
do not need to streamline it. But does it not start with a lot of these 
contractors in Iraq? We are spending a $1.5 billion a week in Iraq, Mr. 
Speaker. A week. We are building dams in Iraq, roads in Iraq, schools 
in Iraq, training people in Iraq, training health care workers in Iraq 
and teachers in Iraq, and the outfit on the other side is cutting free 
and reduced lunches in the United States of America. They do not have 
the courage to go and ask a millionaire to maybe give up just a few 
thousand dollars of his tax cut, Mr. Speaker.
  This is about leadership. We are at a critical point in the history 
of the United States of America, Mr. Meek. We are in a war in Iraq, we 
are in a war in Afghanistan, and we have huge budget deficits. A $323 
billion budget deficit is projected for next year, yet we cut taxes 
tonight for millionaires up to the tune of $32,000 per, after giving 
them over $100,000 over the course of the last few years.
  Are these good decisions long term for the United States of America? 
Because, again, we do not have surplus money to give back to 
millionaires in the form of tax cuts. We are running deficits. And what 
countries do when they have a deficit is the same thing a family does 
when they have an annual deficit. You have to borrow the money or you 
have to get out the credit card. And that is what this country is doing 
right now. We are putting the future of the United States of America on 
a credit card.
  And we are asking the next generation, the same generation that we 
are asking to pay double the tuition that they paid 4 or 5 years ago, 
increasing the fees for student loans, increasing the burden of taxes 
on the middle class, we are going to also ask that generation to pay 
the national debt off; and to try to somehow close this gap by 
borrowing the money from the Chinese and making sure that they pay back 
our debts that we are borrowing from the Chinese, the Japanese, and the 
Saudi Arabians at the same time we are spending $1.5 billion and a half 
a week in Iraq.
  Now, one final point. You voted for the defense appropriations bill. 
So did I.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. That is correct.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. You voted for probably almost every supplemental 
for the war in Iraq.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Yes, sir.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. And so did I. We are not going to have our troops 
in a forward area and have them not have what they need.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. That is correct.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. But to make these cuts on the backs of the middle 
class and the poor in this country at the same time, at the same exact 
time, and this is almost funny, this would be funny if it was not so 
sad, at the same time we are giving millionaires tax cuts.
  Now, people at home, Mr. Speaker, who hear this and read about it in 
the morning newspapers have got to think this place is a mad house, 
that it is schizophrenic. Two wars, $1.5 billion a week in Iraq, and we 
are cutting taxes. Tuition doubles, and we are cutting taxes for 
millionaires. Poverty rate goes up in Cleveland, in the State of Ohio, 
one of the highest poverty levels in the country. I think it was rated 
the poorest city in the country. We are cutting taxes for millionaires. 
Katrina. We have people living in their cars still, over the holiday 
season.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Being evicted.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Being evicted. I mean, come on, we can do better 
than this, Kendrick. And that is what we are saying.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. If the gentleman will yield.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. I would be happy to yield.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Ryan, I think it is important that we 
realize that the President is talking about the economy in Iraq and is 
talking about infrastructure, yet ignoring infrastructure here at home; 
talking about boosting oil production in Iraq while ignoring soaring 
energy costs here that have, in some cases, risen three times more than 
what Americans spent last year.
  He went down to New Orleans and gave a speech saying that we are 
going to build New Orleans back and it will be a shining example and it 
will be a city we can all be proud of because I will make sure, 
meanwhile the State legislature is trying to figure out how it is going 
to pay its share of the money that the Federal Government is saying it 
has to pay. And it literally has no economy right now.
  We have children now within this budget that they will not have free 
and reduced lunches, but meanwhile, the children of Iraq and the people 
of Iraq have universal health care. We have mayors now trying to figure 
out how they are going to meet their budgets. They are laying off 
workers, which equals fewer services for the people that pay taxes in 
those local cities and governments, because they have to pick up some 
of the Federal responsibility, where we have cut programs and 
opportunities for cities like the COPS program and many other programs 
like it.
  There are issues as relates to making sure that we secure our 
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have a national transportation plan as it pertains to security. We are 
encouraging people to not drive so much, yet we do not want to provide 
U.S. cities with what they have asked for. They have asked for 
interoperability, to make sure if there is a terrorist attack or there 
is an event that takes place, a natural disaster, that they would have 
the resources to be able to talk to one another in order to save lives. 
That still has not happened.
  These are all issues, Mr. Ryan, that we on the 30-something side and 
on the Democratic side have already addressed with legislation that has 
been filed, filed from Democratic Members of Congress, ranking members 
on the committees of said jurisdictions to bring about the kinds of 
change we have talked about.
  So when we get into the long and short-term effects of what this 
Republican Congress is doing under a culture of corruption and cronyism 
and incompetence, and when I say here in Washington, D.C., that that is 
an accepted practice, then we wonder why things are the way they are. 
You do not have to wonder. You know why.
  So it is important that we clear some of this stuff up and, 
hopefully, if we keep hammering at the door, that there will be a 
bipartisan approach to move this country forward, Mr. Ryan.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Well, just to back it up, and we used this earlier, 
because we like third-party validators. This is from the Economic 
Policy Institute, www.epi.org, the conclusion of a report they put 
together regarding a briefing paper. It is called ``The Boom That 
Wasn't.'' ``The economy has little to show for $860 billion in tax 
cuts.'' This is from the EPI. I did not do this. ``A review of economic 
performance over the last 4 years indicates that the series of major 
tax cuts enacted in that time have not strengthened the economy. Almost 
every broad measure of economic activity, GDP, jobs, personal income, 
and business investment, among others, has fared worse over the last 4 
years than in past cycles.'' Let me repeat that. ``Has fared worse over 
the last 4 years than in past cycles. Proponents of the series of major 
tax cuts since 2001 had projected that gauges such as these would 
reflect improvements after enactment.'' The Boom That Wasn't. Because 
we were not cutting them for the middle class, we were cutting them for 
wealthy people.
  And I just want to say that I do not have anything against people who 
make a lot of money. In fact, God bless you. That is great. But you 
have an obligation. You benefit from what is happening. And what is 
happening now in our country, and we have talked about this, I know 
privately a lot and here a bit, who is investing in the country? We are 
giving tax cuts to millionaires, yet they are investing their money 
into China. They are putting it in a bond fund or a mutual fund that is 
an international fund, or they are investing in the stocks of private 
companies, publicly-owned companies that are investing into China.
  We are cutting taxes, and those people are giving their money over 
there. Delphi, General Motors, General Electric, all these companies 
are investing in China. And here is what the Democrats want to do to 
just kind of talk a little about what you were doing.
  Another problem we have is the amount of engineers that some of these 
other countries are producing. Just this year, engineering degrees in 
China, 600,000; engineering degrees in India, 350,000; and engineering 
degrees in the United States, 70,000.
  So what the Democrats are proposing is to make an investment into the 
people, into the technology that is going to get this number where it 
needs to be. You cannot have a high number here when you have 70 
percent of the kids in all of these school districts, inner-city school 
districts around the country living in poverty. You cannot get that 
number up when you have kids in rural areas that do not have the skills 
that they need.
  One of the other things we want to do in the Democrat plan. America 
ranks 16th in broadband penetration. Here is Korea, per 100 
inhabitants, 24.9; then China; then Iceland; then the United States of 
America. And the Democratic caucus here in the House has a proposal, 
should we get the reins of government next year, that we will have a 
proposal together to put broadband access in every home in the next 5 
years.

                              {time}  1945

  You want to create a strong economy; you want to get people all over 
the country in rural areas and inner cities, in poorer communities to 
start generating wealth. An automobile plant is not going to set itself 
in Youngstown, Ohio again. A Delphi facility is not going to locate in 
Warren, Ohio, and hire 10,000 people any more. If the leadership on the 
Republican side does not wake up and recognize the country is suffering 
because of this, then we are going to continue down this long road that 
is leading us to nowhere.
  When we have Iceland that has higher broadband penetration than the 
United States of America, that is a shame. I was telling Ms. Wasserman 
Schultz I was doing some research for what we were going to do today, 
and I got into some of the great initiatives of the United States, and 
I ran across President Kennedy's speech in the early 1960s about going 
to the Moon. I mean, talk about setting out an agenda and leading.
  Where is it?
  The Democratic Caucus that is here has proposal after proposal that 
cannot even make it to the floor for the American people to evaluate. 
We offer in committees amendments that get voted down on a party-line 
vote. We are trying to improve this country, and we are being shut down 
because the Republican majority has to cut taxes for millionaires. We 
want to improve this.
  In 5 years, if the Democrats had control of this Chamber and the 
Senate and the White House, we would have a proposal that would begin 
to penetrate communities all over the country with broadband access.
  I want to make one final point.
  This is a poverty program, this right here, this innovation program 
that the Democratic Caucus has put together and the majority leader has 
put together. We want to penetrate these communities, and we want these 
young kids who if they miss this great technological boom, if they get 
caught on the wrong end of this digital divide that we have in the 
country, they are not going to be creating wealth in our communities. 
They are going to be on Medicaid and on the earned income tax credit 
and need public assistance.
  We want to make investments now into these communities, not for the 
sake of saying we helped these poor kids out, but because those kids 
want opportunity. If presented with opportunity, like broadband access, 
like access to the Internet and the latest technology, these kids will 
achieve.
  But if this kid does not get broadband access in his school and he 
does not have it at home and then he is asked to go out and compete 
with the Chinese engineer who makes $10,000 a year, he is not going to 
be able to do it; she is not going to be able to do it. We have to get 
on the stick here. We have to wake up and start leading this country.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, this will not only help individuals 
out of poverty, but this will help educate America.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. That is right.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I want Members to be able to go 
onto
the Web site. We are not down here to
talk about fiction; we are here to talk
about fact and make this country
stronger. The Web site is www.housedemocrats.gov. I want my colleagues 
to go on, look at the Democratic plan. Hopefully, we can move in a 
bipartisan way to strengthen America.
  I think it is important that we share with Members because we like to 
hear from Members and we like to be challenged by Members and get 
information from Members on both sides of the aisle, and that is just 
the way it is.
  I think as we come back next week, I think that some of the issues 
that we should be addressing are issues that are very, very important 
to the American people and hopefully in the last week before we go on 
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a bipartisan way in moving this country forward.
  Mr. RYAN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, the Web site is www.30somethingdems@
mail.house.gov">www.30somethingdems@
mail.house.gov, and I want to thank Mr. Meek for his leadership. He is 
down here every night, sometimes 2 hours a night, dedicating himself. 
He has two young kids at home, a beautiful wife that you leave to come 
down here to promote this message. I know it is difficult sometimes to 
balance work and family, and I want to say I am really thankful for 
your leadership on this, and you are really an inspiration to all of 
us.
  Mr. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank Mr. Ryan and Ms. Wasserman 
Schultz; and with that, it was an honor once again to address the 
House, and I want to thank the Democratic leadership for the time.

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