[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 151 (2005), Part 18]
[House]
[Pages 23979-23983]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                       DISAPPROVINGTHERECOMMENDA-
      TIONS OF THE DEFENSE BASE CLOSURE AND REALIGNMENT COMMISSION

  Mr. HUNTER. Madam Speaker, pursuant to section 2908(d) of Public Law 
101-510, I move that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the 
Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the 
joint resolution (H.J. Res 65) disapproving the recommendations of the 
Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the 
gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter).
  The motion was agreed to.

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                     In the Committee of the Whole

  Accordingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the 
Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the 
joint resolution (H.J. Res. 65) disapproving the recommendations of the 
Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission, with Mr. Gingrey in 
the chair.
  The Clerk read the title of the joint resolution.
  By unanimous consent, the joint resolution was considered read the 
first time.
  The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to section 2908(d) of Public Law 101-510, 
debate shall not exceed 2 hours.
  The gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter) will be recognized for 1 
hour in opposition to the joint resolution and a Member in favor of the 
joint resolution will be recognized for 1 hour.
  Mr. LaHOOD. Mr. Chairman, I would like to claim the 1 hour in support 
of the resolution.
  The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois (Mr. LaHood) will be 
recognized for 1 hour.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter).
  Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 minutes to the gentleman from 
Missouri (Mr. Skelton), and I ask unanimous consent that he be allowed 
to control that time. I also ask unanimous consent that I be allowed to 
designate the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Hefley) as controlling our 
time.
  The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from 
California?
  There was no objection.

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  Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Chairman, tonight marks the end of a long and difficult process 
for selecting military installations for closure and realignment.
  Under BRAC law, the realignment and closure recommendations by the 
BRAC 2005 Commission will become binding, unless a joint resolution of 
disapproval, such as the one before us today, is enacted.
  For those of us with military installations in our districts, the 
BRAC process is a trying one. And I might mention we have had four BRAC 
rounds previous to this one. Every one of us spent the last 4 years 
making a case to the Pentagon and the BRAC Commission with respect to 
the military value of our bases. Nevertheless, both DOD and the BRAC 
Commission have determined that a portion of our military 
infrastructure should be closed or realigned.
  As a result, the final recommendations of the Commission include 22 
closures that we would designate as major closures, 33 major 
realignments, and many smaller closure and realignment actions. 
According to the Commission, these actions will save more than $15 
billion over the next two decades with annual savings of more than $2.5 
billion after implementation.
  Some of my colleagues have questioned the need for a round of BRAC 
and the timing of this round. While I understand and appreciate such 
concerns, I believe that these issues have been thoroughly discussed 
and debated. In addition, by a vote of 43 to 14, the Armed Services 
Committee reported this resolution adversely to the House with a 
recommendation that it do not pass. As such, I intend to vote against 
House Joint Resolution 65 today, thereby allowing the BRAC Commission 
recommendations to stand, and I would urge my colleagues to join me in 
doing so.
  On a final note, I would like to thank the BRAC Commissioners for 
their service. Since their appointments this spring, the Commissioners 
visited more than 170 installations, conducted 20 regional hearings and 
20 deliberative hearings, and participated in hundreds of meetings with 
public officials. Also, Mr. Chairman, I would particularly like to 
thank the chairman of the Commission, Anthony J. Principi. Tony 
Principi took on another tough one in chairing this BRAC Commission. It 
is a commission in which you get beaten up lots of times, second-
guessed a lot, and cross-examined a lot. Yet, it is a necessary 
position, and it is one that requires a guy or a lady with a lot of 
integrity. Chairman Principi is just such a person.
  Also, we had on our committee two former members of the Armed 
Services Committee who were on the BRAC Commission, Jim Bilbray and Jim 
Hansen, and Mr. Chairman, they have served us well as senior statesmen 
in again what amounted to very, very difficult roles.

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  I would like to acknowledge the good work of all of the 
commissioners. It is not an easy job and it is, to some degree, a very 
thankless job. Nonetheless, it is necessary and they put a lot of time 
and a lot of sweat into this process. So I want to thank them.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. LaHOOD. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Chairman, the reason that I introduced this resolution is because 
I feel very strongly that we are in a position in the House to send a 
very strong message of support to those who are doing the hard work in 
Iraq, those who have done the hard work in Afghanistan, and those men 
and women who we call our citizen soldiers, and a big debt of thanks 
for what they have been doing in the work that we have asked them to 
do.
  I have been a very strong supporter of the President's position when 
we went to Afghanistan because I thought we needed to bring down al 
Qaeda. And no politician can take credit for what has taken place in 
Afghanistan. It has been done by the hardworking men and women who 
brought down al Qaeda and the 25,000 troops that are still there.
  And no politician can take credit for what has taken place in Iraq. I 
supported the resolution to go to Iraq. I have supported President Bush 
on every request that he has made before this House for the money to 
support our troops, and now we have more than 135,000 troops and many 
men and women working in the State Department and the embassy there 
trying to help stand up a democracy, help stand up a police force, and 
help bring about democracy in Iraq.
  If we go along with the BRAC Commission recommendations, what we say 
to those hardworking men and women who have done the work that we have 
asked them to do is that we are thinking about, not thinking about, the 
BRAC recommendations would close the bases, close some of the guard 
bases, say to the citizen soldiers who have done the hard work, thanks, 
but we don't need you any longer.
  This is the wrong message to be sending. These hardworking men and 
women have done the job that we asked them to do, and that is the 
reason that we have seen such great success in Afghanistan and in Iraq. 
So I ask Members today to support this resolution and send a message to 
those who have done the hard work that these BRAC recommendations are 
not the right approach.
  When the establishment of the BRAC came about, it was prior to 9/11. 
It was prior to going into Afghanistan, prior to going into Iraq, and 
prior to us asking our men and women, the citizen soldiers and the 
full-time military, to do the hard work that they are doing. This sends 
the wrong message. This is not the message that we want to send to 
those that are there, that the Guard bases and the air bases and the 
military bases that are being recommended for closure or realignment 
were not right.
  When we are spending the kind of money that we are spending, we are 
not saving an awful lot through these BRAC recommendations. I would 
submit to the House that if 9/11 had happened prior to us passing this 
BRAC, that BRAC would not have passed, we would not have established a 
commission, because we would need a very strong military and we would 
need these Guard bases.
  I also want to point out to the House that there is a Federal law 
that has been ignored by BRAC and ignored by the Defense Department. It 
is a Federal law that says you cannot close air and Guard Reserve bases 
without the authority of the Governor of the State, and this has been 
ignored.
  It was ignored by BRAC, and it was ignored by the Defense Department. 
I think it is a law that has standing, and I think it is a law that 
makes an awful lot of sense. The Governors should have a say in what 
bases are closed. But it was a law that was ignored. So I say to those 
in the House that today is not the day to send the kind of message that 
we will be sending if we do not approve the resolution that was 
considered by the Armed Services Committee and being considered here 
today. We need to pass this resolution.
  If we pass the resolution, we do send a strong message to our citizen 
soldiers and to the military that the work that they are doing is 
important, that the Guard bases that they represent, that the air bases 
that they represent are important, and that our citizen soldiers have 
done the good work.
  There is going to be another report coming from the Defense 
Department about realigning and about the kind of defenses that our 
country wants. We do not know what that report will say, but I think it 
is another indication that the BRAC is premature. I know what the 
chairman said about those who served on the BRAC, but I am not sure 
that we were quite as well served by some of those members as we could 
have been in some of their deliberations.
  These are people that were called upon to do very difficult work. 
They have completed their work, and now it is up to Congress to speak. 
The Defense Department has spoken. BRAC has spoken. The President has 
spoken. Now, Mr. Chairman, it is up to the House to speak today.
  I urge the House to adopt this resolution in support of those that 
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the hard work, in support of those who are citizen soldiers who come 
from the communities that we represent and say to them, we thank you 
for your hard work. We thank you for what you have done. We thank you 
for bringing down al Qaeda. We thank you for helping stand up a 
democracy in Iraq, and we are not going to eliminate the bases from 
which you come or realign them.
  Mr. Chairman, I rise today to offer H.J. Res. 65, a resolution that I 
introduced that would disapprove the recommendations of the 2005 
Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission.
  As I have stated many times since this BRAC round began, it is 
absolutely wrong that we are considering closing and realigning bases 
while we are at war. We in Congress spend quite a bit of time 
proclaiming that we are doing all we can to care for our troops. 
Spending billions of dollars closing and realigning bases isn't caring 
for our troops--it's just plain wrong.
  Congress created the BRAC process so that there would be a non-
partisan, independent method of reviewing our military's post-Cold War 
excess infrastructure. Unfortunately, we live in a different world 
today and we face challenges that we, as a nation, couldn't even 
imagine in the late 1980s. There is no more ``peacetime dividend'' to 
be gained from closing bases. The Global War on Terrorism has reached 
deep into our military structure and showed us that we can no longer 
ask our military to do more with less.
  This BRAC Commission was asked to do a very difficult task in a very 
uncertain environment. Early next year the Department of Defense will 
issue its latest Quadrennial Defense Review, a document that will 
outline the future structure of our military as they continue their 
fight against terror. We do not know what the QDR will contain, and 
what sort of infrastructure will be required to support it. We are also 
waiting to hear the plan for bringing as many as 70,000 troops and 
their families home from Europe and Asia as the Department reduces its 
Cold War footprint overseas. We do not know what that plan will 
contain, either, but those 70,000 people and their dependents will have 
to live and work somewhere. The BRAC Commission noted in its report to 
the President that the timing of this BRAC round was not ideal because 
of all of the uncertainty surrounding these upcoming major events. Even 
the most well-intentioned decisions, if they are made without taking 
all of the facts into account, can end up hurting those we say we are 
trying to help.
  The list of recommendations that were released by the Department of 
Defense on May 13 contained more proposed actions than all previous 
BRAC rounds combined. In its report to the President, the BRAC 
Commission was very critical of the Department's methods. The Pentagon 
lumped together unrelated activities into one recommendation, leaving a 
mess for the Commission to try to untangle. The DoD proposed the 
consolidation of many jobs and commands that had similar names, even if 
they did not have the same missions. There was apparently no 
interaction between the Pentagon and other federal agencies that share 
assets and installation space, such as the Department of Veterans 
Affairs and the United States Coast Guard, agencies that could be now 
left in serious financial straits if the burden of maintaining these 
facilities falls completely on them. And, most striking of all, there 
was very little cooperation and interaction between the Pentagon and 
the Department of Homeland Security. How can we feel secure in voting 
on these recommendations without knowing the full impact they will have 
on our homeland security? These bases are not simply staging areas 
before our military goes to fight overseas. Our military is vital to 
securing our homeland. We cannot make it more difficult for them to 
achieve that mission.
  The one aspect of this year's BRAC round that brought this issue home 
to many of my colleagues was the inclusion of Air National Guard bases. 
I am proud to say that I represent 2 flying units of the Illinois Air 
National Guard in my district, and I have seen first-hand the vital 
roles they play in our nation's defense. We ask our Guard to make 
extraordinary sacrifices and become masters of a wide range of issues, 
from fighting against terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan to rescuing 
victims and providing relief to those who are impacted by natural 
disasters here at home. They do so willing and heroically, leaving 
behind their families and their jobs as soon as they get the call. 
These Guard units, under the purview of the governors of the states, 
are now being closed or ``enclaved'' without the consent of the 
governors and without proper consultation of the State Adjutants 
General. This is how we support those who serve both their states and 
the federal government? These men and women are not going to uproot 
their entire lives to follow their units to other states. We will lose 
them, their knowledge, and their expertise. This is a price we cannot 
afford to pay.
  Title 10 of the United States Code prohibits the closure or 
relocation of Army and Air National Guard units without the consent of 
the governors of the states in which those units are located. A number 
of governors have gone on record and refused to give their consent for 
the movement of their National Guard units. Many states have filed 
lawsuits in federal court demanding that the Pentagon and the BRAC 
Commission follow federal law. The Speaker, Senator Durbin and I 
brought this provision to the attention of the Secretary of Defense in 
a letter dated March 24. To date, the Pentagon still has not been able 
to answer that letter. On July 14, the BRAC Commission's own Deputy 
General Counsel issued an opinion that not only are the proposed Air 
Guard moves in violation of federal law, they may be unconstitutional. 
The Commission ignored its own lawyer! This BRAC round is going to 
leave us with flying units that no longer have planes, and for what 
reason? These Air Guard moves do not save money. They will weaken the 
Air Guard in many states and make recruiting and retention of these 
dedicated Airmen next to impossible. Not only is this wrong, it is 
illegal, a clear violation of Title 10 of the United States Code. 
Lawsuits are still pending.
  Much has been said about the proposed ``savings'' if this round of 
BRAC is enacted. A figure of $35 billion in savings over 20 years seems 
to be popular in the media. However, this $35 billion figure includes 
assumed personnel cost savings; savings that both the BRAC Commission 
and the GAO have stated should not be included. Once those personnel 
savings are removed, the total savings falls to approximately $15.1 
billion over the next 20 years. We cannot forget that this round of 
BRAC will cost $21 billion to enact. That kind of math simply does not 
make sense.
  This round of BRAC has strayed far from Congress' original intent. We 
aren't reducing excess infrastructure to save money. This BRAC is the 
beginning of implementing major force structure changes without the 
consultation of Congress. Sweeping changes like this require more than 
just one up or down vote.
  I have heard a number of my colleagues state that they will support 
this round of BRAC even though they do not agree with it, simply 
because this is the process that Congress established. This is not 
something we can close our eyes and blindly support. We are a nation at 
war, the timing is wrong, the savings are not there, and Guard units 
are being moved out of their states in violation of federal law. The 
process did not work this time, and we need to stand up and say 
``Stop''.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I might 
consume.
  Mr. Chairman, I have long supported the base closure process as a way 
to eliminate excess infrastructure in the Department of Defense. This 
is an important and very noble goal. We need all of our resources to be 
devoted towards supporting our fighting men and women. This includes 
having the best and most efficient facilities.
  For this reason, Mr. Chairman, I will today vote to uphold the list 
recommended by the BRAC Commission and against the resolution of 
disapproval.
  Even though I support the BRAC, I would like to take this opportunity 
to comment on the process that was used in this round of BRAC. In the 
last three BRAC rounds, the Defense Department demonstrated that it 
could successfully close bases and reduce infrastructure through a 
measured and deliberative process.
  In this round, however, neither the Department of Defense nor the 
BRAC Commission, in my opinion, has lived up to the high standards that 
we set for them. The execution of the process and the final outcome has 
suffered. The end result is that I doubt we will see another round of 
base closures due to missteps along the way.
  This is it, Mr. Chairman. This is it for BRAC. But even with the BRAC 
shortfalls, I feel that the Congress created a law that we are 
obligated to follow. While it missed some opportunities, the commission 
made some closures that will benefit the Nation. There are some 
outstanding prospects for jointness included on the list.
  I sincerely hope that the Department of Defense will work to maximize 
their effect, while it works to assist communities that will be 
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  Mr. Chairman, we must vote upon the product that is before us and the 
good that it can do. This BRAC may not be perfect, but we must take the 
opportunity presented to us to streamline our military infrastructure.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HEFLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Chairman, I rise to join Chairman Hunter and Ranking Member 
Skelton in opposing House Joint Resolution 65.
  I was not a fan of us doing this BRAC round. The gentleman from 
Illinois said that if 9/11 had happened before the approval of this 
round, we probably would not have had a BRAC round. But the truth is 
that we have reaffirmed this BRAC round time and time again since 9/11.
  Each year I would offer an amendment in the Armed Services Committee 
to put off the BRAC for many of the reasons that the gentleman from 
Illinois has stated: to put off the BRAC for 2 years until we could see 
where we are about bringing troops home, to see where we are on our war 
against terror.
  Each time it would pass overwhelmingly in committee, it would pass 
overwhelmingly in this House, and we would be shot down in the 
conference committee by the Senate and the White House. We lost that 
battle. That would have been my choice.
  But once we have gone through this process, I think we should proceed 
with it at this point. Just 5 months ago, the House voted down an 
amendment that would have delayed BRAC, the 2005 BRAC, indefinitely. I 
argued then, as I do today, that we must allow the BRAC process at this 
point to run its course.
  As it turned out, that course took several unexpected twists and 
turns along the way. On the positive side, the BRAC Commission removed 
several significant bases from the closure list. In doing so, they 
validated our belief that our military should not give up the ability 
to surge to meet future crises in times of war and peace, allowing this 
ability that is fundamental to our Nation's security.
  On the negative side, the commission's actions on some issues like 
the commission's directive relating to the Naval Air Station Oceana, 
for example, raise a number of questions about the credibility 
underlying the BRAC process.
  Considering that credibility is the foundation upon which BRAC is 
built, such questions are troubling. While I do not believe the BRAC 
2005 outcome to be sufficiently flawed to vote to disapprove it, I have 
reached the conclusion that any future use of the existing BRAC laws to 
close or realign bases would be a mistake.
  In balance, Mr. Chairman, I feel that this may have been the best 
BRAC process that we have had in all of the BRAC processes we have had. 
There are problems with it. It has never been perfect. It was not 
perfect this time. But I think it was perhaps the smoothest and best 
process that we have had.
  To those of my colleagues who still may be on the fence about today's 
vote, I would point out that disapproval of the BRAC 2005 
recommendations would guarantee yet another round of base closures in 
the very near future.
  Bases on today's closure list would likely appear again on the future 
list. And those bases that escaped closure this time would again be at 
risk of closure or realignment. Whether or not you support any given 
closure or realignment within BRAC 2005, I hope that all of my 
colleagues will recognize that the alternative, which is another round 
of BRAC in the near future, would be even worse.
  My friends, I do not want to go through this again. Any of us who 
represent bases across this Nation do not want to continually go 
through this kind of agony. For all of these reasons, I will vote 
against H.J. Res. 65 and vote to allow the BRAC process to run its 
course.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. LaHOOD. Mr. Chairman, let me just speak for a minute or two. I 
thought there were going to be some other Members that wanted to speak 
in favor of the resolution; but until they arrive, let me just talk for 
a minute or two about some of the costs.
  The BRAC Commission estimated that $35 billion would be saved over a 
20-year period, but the $35 billion figure includes assumed cost 
savings due to military personnel actions. Both the BRAC Commission and 
the GAO believe the military personnel savings should be excluded from 
the overall savings figure.
  Once those personnel savings are removed, the overall savings fall to 
approximately $15 billion over 20 years. There is a one-time up-front 
cost of $21 billion to implement the BRAC round, and the DOD claimed 
that the savings from military personnel are not savings at all. These 
costs do not disappear; they simply shift from one base to another, and 
those folks are still in the military, and we still have to pay for 
them.
  For some Air Force recommendations, the military personnel cost 
savings represents 90 percent of the total savings. And in the case of 
the Air National Guard end strength, it remained mostly the same. 
Obviously, no savings come from simply moving positions around the 
country.
  If we keep the same number of personnel, DOD spending levels will not 
actually be reduced. The BRAC Commission concludes that DOD savings 
estimates were vastly overstated and overestimated. And there is also a 
quote from the commission on page 330 of their report: ``In fact, the 
commission is concerned that there is a likelihood that the 2005 BRAC 
round could produce only marginal net savings over the 20-year 
period.''
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.

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  Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from 
Virginia (Mr. Moran).
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Chairman, I thank my two very good 
friends, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton) and the gentleman 
from Illinois (Mr. LaHood) for yielding me time, and I thank the 
gentleman from Illinois (Mr. LaHood) for bringing forth this 
resolution, which I support because it is a resolution of disapproval.
  Now, you should know where I am coming from, Mr. Speaker. In my 
congressional district there are almost 23,000 people being displaced 
because of BRAC. It is the equivalent of four major military bases. But 
we could accept that, and Senator Warner, the chairman of the Senate 
Committee on Armed Services, has said as well we can accept that 
decision, but for the fact that it is inconsistent with the BRAC 
authorizing legislation which was designed to save money and to improve 
military effectiveness. It does neither.
  Initially, its was supposed to save $48.8 billion over 20 years. The 
latest analysis tells us that it is actually going to save only $15.1 
billion over 20 years, about $700 million per year, which, 
incidentally, is about as much as we spend in a day in Iraq now.
  So the question is, why we would be disrupting the lives of so many 
thousands of people if we are going to save so little money. And, in 
fact, even this savings estimate is suspect because as the gentleman 
from Illinois (Mr. LaHood) has explained, it is based upon personnel 
savings, and all we are doing is moving the personnel around the 
country. That does not save any money.
  In fact, what is going to happen based upon the surveys we have taken 
of the personnel that are going to be displaced from northern Virginia, 
as many as 50-75 percent of the employees are going to decide not to 
move, to leave the government. And who are these people?
  Well, it turns out they are the most experienced, they are the most 
skilled, they are the very people that we need the most to lead our 
defense agencies. In other words, this is going to cause a brain drain, 
and it is one that we can ill afford at the Federal level. As many of 
you may know, because it applies to most urban metropolitan areas, with 
the cost of housing, both spouses have to be in the workforce, and it 
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the wage-earners has to move hundreds of miles away.
  In this case, the Missile Defense Agency is a good example. About 2- 
to 3,000 people are going to be moving down to Alabama. Now, I like 
Alabama, I like the gentleman who represents that district, but the 
reality is not all of them are going to move, because they like our 
schools, their children are in the school system, their spouses have 
jobs here, and most of them have security clearances, which means they 
are going to be picked up by the private sector in a New York minute.
  Is this in the national interest? I do not think so. I do not think 
it is in the national interest. I could see if we were going to save 
the money. I could see if we were going to follow the intent of the 
BRAC process, which was to improve military preparedness, but I do not 
know how we achieve that. We were supposed to take people that were in 
facilities that were overcrowded and move them to surplus facilities in 
other parts of the country. That is not being achieved.
  Now, Senator Warner, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services 
Committee, did a very extensive analysis, of the BRAC legislation 
because he happened to be the architect of it, and he shows that these 
decisions, are inconsistent with the intent of that authorizing 
legislation. That alone is reason to oppose the BRAC conclusions and 
support this resolution.
  We are going to, in fact, have to spend billions of dollars on 
building new facilities, and the fact that that money is going to have 
to come out of the Military Construction, Quality of Life 
appropriations subcommittee where we need to be conserving money to pay 
for veterans health care for the thousands of veterans that are coming 
back from the Iraq and Afghanistan war, defies common sense.
  I do not think this is in the national interest, Mr. Speaker. I think 
that this body should support this resolution of disapproval until we 
get recommendations that show us how we are actually going to save 
money and improve military effectiveness.
  Now, Secretary Rumsfeld has improved new building standards, and that 
was the justification that the BRAC Commission used to move these 
people. And the building standards necessitate that you cannot be 
within 100 feet of the sidewalk where the public is allowed. You cannot 
be near a public transit station. You cannot have public underground 
parking. You cannot do any of the things that you have to do in a 
metropolitan area like northern Virginia or the Washington metro area, 
even though we have buildings that are right on the sidewalk that are 
just as important in Florida and Texas that were not touched. But in 
northern Virginia they made the decision to implement these building 
standards as they apply to any DOD agency no matter how unlikely a 
terrorist target that agency might be.
  But there are very different building standards that apply to the 
Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, the FBI, 
all of these other agencies that would be just as likely a terrorist 
target, so it does not seem to make sense. In fact, I question why we 
would have published the location of all of these defense agencies when 
terrorists did not know where they existed, could not even figure out 
the acronyms for the agencies.
  But we have very different, inconsistent building security standards, 
one by the General Services Administration, which has the authorizing 
responsibility for building Federal buildings; and another by DOD, 
which is not supposed to be building its own buildings, but are 
requiring enormous restrictions that preclude a location in a 
metropolitan area anyplace in the country, and that are going to cost 
such a premium to build, they are going to make them prohibitive for 
any other activity to be in those buildings.
  Mr. Speaker, I could go on at greater length on why I do not think 
that these recommendations make sense from a cost standpoint, from a 
military effectiveness standpoint, from just a common-sense standpoint. 
I will not do that, but I will summarize by again pointing out that 
these recommendations are going to cost billions of dollars to build 
new buildings for DOD money that we do not have, that we are going to 
have to take from veterans health care. It is not going to improve our 
military preparedness. It is going to cause a brain drain in terms of 
many of the agencies that we rely so much on for technological 
superiority and intelligence. And when you have a recommendation that 
causes such additional cost and is going to make it so much more 
difficult to implement our military mission, I think the right thing to 
do is to reject it.
  That is what this resolution does. That is what I would urge my 
colleagues in this body to do, to vote for the resolution of 
disapproval that has been offered by the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. 
LaHood) so as to have the administration go back and tell us ways they 
can, in fact, save money, ways they can, in fact, improve the 
efficiency and effectiveness of our military mission.
  The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Bonner). The Committee will rise informally.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hefley) assumed the chair.

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