[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 150 (2004), Part 12]
[House]
[Pages 16167-16173]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                        9/11 WAS NOT PREDESTINED

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hensarling). Under the Speaker's 
announced policy of January 7, 2003, the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Rohrabacher) is recognized for half the time before midnight, 
approximately 43 minutes.
  Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Speaker, let me thank the gentleman from 
Missouri (Mr. Skelton) who has always had the respect of his 
colleagues. I know that the gentleman is very serious and sincere about 
the national security of the United States. I appreciate him trying to 
put forth some creative and positive alternatives to the current 
policies he may or may not agree with in terms of the war on terrorism.
  There are positive opponents to the President and there are negative 
opponents to the President. There are people who offer alternatives, 
and there are people who do nothing but undermine the President's 
policy; but there are also those who have legitimate complaints and 
alternatives to offer, and I thank the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. 
Skelton) for always trying to provide the alternative.
  Let me note, after hearing our last colleague who spoke, Saddam 
Hussein had a blood grudge against the people of the United States of 
America. He wanted to hurt us and would have hurt us had he been given 
a chance. It is a good thing that Saddam Hussein was removed from 
power. Those who nitpick our President and backbite him as we try to 
make this situation, turn the situation around in Iraq, would not 
return Saddam Hussein to power. That is not the question.
  So with that, Mr. Speaker, let me note that we need to look at the 
terrorism angle which is what the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton) 
was suggesting for tonight. I have a speech to talk about what happened 
on 9/11, the terrorist attack, and I give this speech leading up to 
some time this week when the terrorism task force will report to the 
American people on what happened on 9/11.
  The most important thing that the American people need to know when 
looking at 9/11, the 9/11 terrorist attack, was that it was not 
predestined. It was not unavoidable. Unfortunately, the commission 
investigating 9/11, and we will find this out when they issue their 
report, they seem to be uncomfortable with fixing responsibility, 
branding such attempts of fixing responsibility to individuals or to 
policy as the blame game or pointing fingers. So instead of looking for 
policies that were dead wrong or people who were incompetent, we have 
heard about glitches in the system or a lack of communication or a lack 
of a shared database. Expect the recommendations of the task force to 
be consistent with this thinking. We will hear about changes in flow 
charts, organizational restructuring and the creation of a new central 
authority, an intelligence czar. If there has ever been a cliche, let 
us create a czar and give him all of the power, and that will solve the 
problems.
  No, I am sorry, 9/11 represents a dramatic failure of policy and 
people. A number of insane policies led to the creation of a hostile, 
radical Islamic movement, the one that we face today, and we had 
policies in place that enabled this weird, feudalistic religion, 
religious zealots of radical Islam to become a major threat to the 
western world, and especially to the people of the United States.
  Yes, the origins of this frightening reality go back aways. In the 
1980s, high-level officials in the Reagan administration, and this is 
probably where it started, agreed to the demand of Pakistani President 
Zia Al-Haq that his government oversee, read that control, America's 
support for those Afghans who were fighting against the Soviet troops 
occupying their country. Much of the lethal inventory that we sent to 
the Afghan freedom fighters ended up in the hands of Pakistan's 
favorite Muslim fanantics, like Rasul Sayyaf or Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. 
Hekmatyar was a fiend, for example, who in his college days threw acid 
in the face of young women who refused to cover themselves with a 
burqa. That is who ended up with the lion's share of our aid to the 
Afghan freedom fighters.

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  During the war with the Soviet occupation, I hiked into Afghanistan 
with a small mujajadin infantry unit. On our way to the seige of 
Jalalabad, which was the last major battle in that war with Soviet 
troops, we came across an encampment of Saudi volunteers. In stark 
contrast to the spartan living conditions of the Afghan fighters who I 
was with, this camp site was complete with large safari-style tents, 
cots, and even SUVs. I was told not to speak English because the Saudi 
crazy man who led this bunch would rather kill Americans than Soviet 
troops. His name was Osama bin Laden.
  So by the end of the 1980s, the presence of dangerous wackoes in 
Afghanistan was well known. I can assure Members that complaints were 
made at the highest levels about American support ending up in the 
hands of these fanatics. I personally made such protests while working 
in the Reagan White House, yet the policy continued, probably because 
those representing us on the scene, meaning in Pakistan and 
Afghanistan, did not complain. In fact, everything indicates that the 
American so-called professionals on the scene supported the let-
Pakistan-decide policy.
  Milton Bearden, senior CIA officer overseeing America's support for 
the Afghanistan insurgency, has suggested that his job was beating the 
Soviet Army and he should not have been expected to keep our weapons 
out of the hands of those who might pose a long-term threat to us, to 
the United States. Nonsense.
  Had he raised the issue, coupled with the complaints like the ones I 
was making to the National Security Council, as well as other people 
who I know who were making these complaints, this policy would have 
been reviewed and it would have been reversed. But Milt did not want to 
rock the boat. He did not want to upset the Pakistanis, so our weapons 
continued to be delivered into the hands of people who hated us. So put 
this man, Milton Bearden, CIA station chief, on the list of people who 
helped bring about 9/11.
  Also put unnamed high-level Reagan officials, perhaps even CIA 
Director Bill Casey, who I have a great deal of respect for, this might 
have been one of the mistakes he made. We all make mistakes. But in the 
end, we made a deal to give Pakistan the dominant role in this 
operation. To be fair, there was no indication at that time that these 
medieval mullahs would ever pose a threat to the United States, but we 
should have supported people who were more pro-western and more 
enlightened. They were available, but we would have had to make 
Pakistan mad at us for us to we have delivered weapons to them 
directly. Nevertheless, we could have helped these others and it would 
have been a better world and better path for us to be on in the long 
and short run had we done that, and had the CIA and Milton Bearden 
insisted this was the best way to go and the moral way to go.
  Contrary to leftist cliche, and this is what is important, contrary 
to leftist cliche, the roots of the current terrorist crisis lie not in 
our support for the Afghan people in their gallant fight against the 
Soviet occupation, but instead on America's willingness to let Pakistan 
distribute war supplies and our unconscionable decision after the 
retreat of the Soviet Army to walk away ourselves and leave the poor 
and wounded Afghans to live in the rubble and suffer their misery.
  To fix responsibility on that decision, look at the list of senior 
foreign service officers at our embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, in the 
1980s and 1990s. Up to this day, there are high-level State Department 
officials and career foreign service officers who still toe the 
Pakistani line, who still seem unable to call Pakistan to task for its 
transgressions, its sins of omission and commission. These State 
Department pros, always trying to prevent a crisis on their watch, 
always trying to avoid a decision that will mandate a confrontation, 
these people gave us 9/11. Put them on the list.
  Furthermore, it was a policy decision to walk away and abandon our 
devoted Afghan allies even after psychopathic killers like Gulbadeen 
rose up as the Soviets departed. President George Bush, father of our 
current President, has to accept the lion's share of the blame for this 
cowardly, arrogant and selfish policy. There would be no Marshall Plan 
for Afghanistan or anything else like that because like during the war 
itself, we left postwar construction and assistance basically up to the 
Saudis and up to the Pakistanis which was another indefensible policy 
decision.

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  As we went into an era in the 1990s of prosperity, the Afghans were 
stuck in misery and they could not even take care of their wounded, the 
people who had lost limbs during the war. They could not even clear 
away the land mines.
  So what happened when we left it up to the Saudis and Pakistanis to 
take care of the situation? Predictably, they had their own agenda, 
which included the creation of a radical Islamic state in Afghanistan. 
They were not upset about violent extremists like Hekmatyar and Sayyaf 
being so well armed. The Saudis and the Pakistanis supported these 
violent extremists. They were the ones who armed the violent extremists 
and did so in many cases with our own weapons. Predictably, what 
followed when the Soviets left and we walked away was a period of havoc 
and bloodshed. Hekmatyar Gulbadeen peppered Kabul with American rockets 
that were stockpiled during the Soviet occupation. Thank you, Mr. 
Bearden.
  There was a way out of this bloody mess. Afghanistan's benevolent old 
king, King Zahir Shah, was exiled in Rome and he was ready and willing 
to return to Afghanistan to offer a moderate leadership to that 
country. He is now and was at that time the most beloved man in 
Afghanistan. He is a pro-western force for stability and decency in 
that country. But instead of supporting King Zahir Shah, our State 
Department opted for the creation of a third force. This new force was 
to be made up of religious fanatics educated in the Madrassas, the so-
called schools in Pakistan that were financed and built by the Saudis. 
I pleaded with my own government and I pleaded with the Saudi 
intelligence chief, Prince Turki, to at least give the old king, Zahir 
Shah, a chance to lead an interim government and bring some stability 
there. ``No way'' was the answer. Again our State Department sided with 
the Saudis and Pakistanis, going with the radical Muslim fanatics 
rather than going with a pro-western alternative. We ended up, yes, 
with the Taliban. That is what we are talking about being created.
  Make no mistake about it, the Taliban's ascent to power as well as 
their ability to stay in power was a Clinton administration policy 
decision promoted by the know-it-alls at the State Department. Again, 
put on the list of those whom to blame for 9/11 those people in the 
State Department that supported and advocated this policy. The policy 
of the State Department again and the Clinton administration in 
collusion with the Saudis and the Pakistanis was to create and support 
the Taliban control of Afghanistan. They obviously did not learn a 
thing from the horror that they created by backing Islamic fanatics 
like Hekmatyar.
  Two specific diplomats to put on the 9/11 blame or shame list are 
Ambassador Robert Oakley who was on the scene as U.S. Ambassador to 
Pakistan when following Pakistani lead became U.S. policy. Another 
diplomat, John Holtzman, was the deputy chief of mission at our embassy 
in Pakistan during the 1990s. He discouraged and undercut efforts to 
those who were offering an alternative to the Taliban in Afghanistan.
  Of course our government's support for the Taliban was never publicly 
acknowledged. It is too diplomatic for that. We do not mention that but 
that was the policy and it was never publicly acknowledged but for 
those of us who were engaged in that region. Let me say there were darn 
few of us who were engaged in that region after the Soviets had left. 
We knew it was clear that the United States was supporting the Taliban, 
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poignant, most Afghans believed that the Taliban were created by the 
United States of America and that they had our support. Why should they 
not believe that that was our policy? America's aid, for the most part, 
was channeled, and I say this, channeled disproportionately through the 
Taliban-controlled areas. I remember trying to clear the way for the 
shipping of private humanitarian relief to a non-Taliban area in the 
northern part of Afghanistan only to be blocked by Assistant Secretary 
of State for Southern Asian Affairs Rick Inderfurth. If there was any 
doubt about my suspicions about U.S. policy, it was confirmed in 1997 
when high-level executives from the Clinton administration saved the 
Taliban from total defeat and extinction. Here is what happened. In 
April of 1997, the Taliban launched a major offensive aimed at taking 
control over the northern third of Afghanistan which up until that 
point had remained a free zone under the control of regional leaders. 
Those regional leaders are commonly referred to as warlords. One of 
those regional leaders, General Malik, tricked the Taliban and managed 
to capture almost all of their front line troops along with most of 
their heavy weaponry. It was an utter disaster for the Taliban. The 
road to the capital, Kabul, was wide open. The Taliban were totally 
vulnerable and could easily have been wiped out. I sent a message to 
Commander Masoud and others that Kabul should be liberated and the king 
of Afghanistan, Zhir Shah, this moderate force I have been talking 
about, should be brought back to oversee a transition government which 
hopefully would evolve into a democratically elected government perhaps 
like we saw in Spain where the monarchy was brought back and they 
evolved into a democracy. But before the anti-Taliban forces could 
strike, before the anti-Taliban forces could take advantage of this 
incredible opportunity to get rid of the Taliban, Assistant Secretary 
of State Rick Inderfurth and American and United States Ambassador Bill 
Richardson flew to northern Afghanistan and convinced these anti-
Taliban leaders that this was not the time for an offensive. Instead, 
they insisted, this was the time for a cease-fire and an arms embargo. 
This was clearly a statement of U.S. policy that two top foreign policy 
leaders in the Clinton administration for that region flew to northern 
Afghanistan to convince the anti-Taliban forces not to take advantage 
of their one opportunity to soundly defeat and thus eliminate this 
enemy.
  Let us remember, by this time it was clear that the Taliban were 
Islamic Nazis. I had fought the Taliban for years trying to present the 
king as an alternative. When they took over Kabul, I remember even my 
comment was, ``Well, let's wait and see. Let's give them the benefit of 
the doubt.'' I was very skeptical, even for just a matter of 2 weeks, 
but within 2 weeks there was no doubt what these people were about: 
Making women stay inside their homes. They could not get adequate 
medical treatment, much less have jobs. Repression of any type. 
Listening to music much less expressing some type of opposition to 
their government. No, these were fascist Islamicists. Instead of 
letting them be defeated, the Clinton administration, Mr. Inderfurth 
and Mr. Richardson, went there and saved the Taliban and they convinced 
them not to take advantage of this one opportunity they had.
  So let me underscore this again. We knew by that time that the 
Taliban were evil. Yet we helped save them because we had made a deal 
with Pakistan and with Saudi Arabia to create the Taliban and to keep 
them in power. Just to note, right after the cease-fire and the release 
of prisoners that were brokered by these high-level Clinton 
administration officials, the Pakistanis began a Berlin-like airlift to 
resupply and re-equip the Taliban which was obviously financed with 
Saudi money. If I knew of this massive resupply effort, certainly the 
Clinton administration officials who set up this disastrous scenario 
also knew. Why were the anti-Taliban leaders not notified of this 
situation? Why did we continue to enforce an arms embargo which only 
affected the anti-Taliban forces even as the Taliban were being rearmed 
and resupplied by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia? The answer is, it was U.S. 
policy to keep the Taliban in power during the Clinton administration. 
So add the Clinton appointees, Assistant Secretary of State Rick 
Inderfurth and U.S. Ambassador Bill Richardson on the 9/11 blame list, 
but, to be fair, they were obviously carrying out policies that were 
made elsewhere and higher up. How much higher up? All the way up to the 
very top of the Clinton administration.
  Last year, the current Foreign Minister of Pakistan visited 
California. Furious by my repeated accusations that Pakistan was 
responsible for the Taliban, he blurted out at a well-attended event 
that from day one, America was part of the deal that created the 
Taliban. I had been trying to prove that the Clinton administration was 
covertly supporting the Taliban and now at last I had a confirmation. 
As a member of the Committee on International Relations, it had been my 
responsibility to oversee this policy. During the last 2 years of the 
Clinton administration, I made numerous requests, with the support of 
the committee chairman, Ben Gilman, for Taliban-related documents so I 
could prove what our policy was and what we were doing behind the 
scenes in terms of the Taliban in Afghanistan. I asked for these 
documents. I asked for cables, talking points, meeting notes. Secretary 
of State Madeleine Albright made a commitment to me and to the chairman 
of the committee in an open congressional hearing to provide my office 
and Chairman Gilman all related documents. We were stonewalled. That is 
it. The elected officials got stonewalled by the permanent government, 
by the pros who made the policy in the first place, the people who they 
sent over to take over the policy in Islamabad and oversaw this, 
protecting themselves but also protecting the secret agreement with 
Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. So instead of sending the dossiers, the 
documents about the Taliban, they sent to us, the people who were 
elected to oversee that policy, meaningless documents that included 
innocuous news clippings. This is about as arrogant as it gets, 
unelected State Department careerists dismissing the requests of 
elected officials for security-related information.
  One wonders if the current independent commission examining 9/11 has 
asked to see these documents. We will have to see if the commission 
investigating 9/11 goes into why the Taliban was in power in the first 
place. This is a vital piece of information. If the Taliban would not 
have been in power, these radical Islamicists would not have provided 
bin Laden and the terrorists with the base of operations which led to 
9/11. In some ways, it is hard to characterize the Clinton 
administration's support of the Taliban as covert. The stench was hard 
to miss. Covert or overt, it was disgraceful and led to 9/11 by 
creating a safe base of operations for bin Laden and a training base 
and staging area for al Qaeda.
  Bin Laden is from an enormously wealthy Saudi family. While our petro 
dollars flowed into Saudi Arabia by the hundreds or tens of millions, 
the Saudi establishment not only turned a blind eye but also attempted 
to buy off this violent anti-western Islamic fringe in their own 
country. Billions of our dollars, our petro dollars, came back to bite 
us in a big way. It obviously continues to this very day. The first 
gulf war in 1990 and 1991 did nothing but expand bin Laden's hatred for 
the United States. In terms of our presence in Saudi Arabia, he has 
piously proclaimed that it is an insult to his faith. Get that. An 
insult to his faith. This is a mass slaughterer of unarmed people and, 
of course, slaughtering these unarmed people and these noncombatants as 
we saw on 9/11 and others who he has slaughtered is perfectly 
consistent with his faith, but he is insulted by America being in the 
Middle East. Perhaps we should quit taking seriously all of this self-
righteousness from radical Islamicists because in reality what we are 
talking about are psychopathic killers. And whatever religion they 
would be part of, whether it is Christianity or Hindus or Israelis or 
Americans, whoever we are talking about,

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there are psychopathic killers in every society, only what we have got 
here is in the name of the Muslim faith, these people have managed to 
wrestle leverage which gives them enormous power to attack us and to 
kill our people.
  In the mid 1990s, bin Laden and his cohorts began to set up his 
terrorist underground army for the war that he intended to wage on 
America. In the mid 1990s, he operated not out of Afghanistan but out 
of Sudan. America's official position was that bin Laden was a 
terrorist on our most wanted list. In fact, CIA director George Tenet 
declared him the CIA's number one target. Inexplicably while designated 
as such this self-aggrandizing monster organized, financed and 
implemented attacks that caused tens of millions of dollars of damage 
and the deaths of thousands of innocent people, not just in the United 
States on 9/11 but in a worldwide campaign over a 2-year period.

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  Yet the same CIA that declared bin Laden as their number one target, 
with all the power, the money, the technology, and other assets 
available to our CIA, they could not thwart 9/11 nor did they even warn 
us about 9/11. Remember, 9/11 was a major operation planned and carried 
out by the CIA's number one target and hundreds of others, many of whom 
were also on that most-wanted list.
  If this is not incompetence on the part of our intelligence 
establishment, then what is? Furthermore, there were mind-boggling 
missed opportunities to get bin Laden before 9/11. Either intentionally 
or as a matter of policy or through incompetence, bin Laden was never 
stopped, even though there were numerous opportunities to stop him 
permanently.
  The government of Sudan paid close attention to bin Laden when he 
operated in that country. I am told they catalogued all the people to 
whom he spoke on the phone and in person. The former Ambassador for 
Sudan in the United States, Mr. Mahdi Ibrahim Mohamed, told me 
personally that he offered our government this terrorist catalogue, 
which was a silver bullet for the total destruction of bin Laden's 
terrorist network.
  Vanity Fair reports that the Sudanese government's offer was abruptly 
turned down by none other than Secretary of State Madeleine Albright 
herself. Reportedly she instructed that no one look at the material or 
copy the material offered by Sudan. So in bold print add to the list of 
those responsible to 9/11 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
  I should note that former President Clinton is denying that he turned 
down such an offer from the Sudan, and it is not unreasonable to assume 
that the wording of his denial has been crafted in such a way that we 
really do not know what is, is.
  And while we are at it, we can add Richard Clarke to the list. Let us 
take a look at Richard Clarke, who got much attention a few months back 
by criticizing President George W. Bush before the investigating 9/11 
panel. Clarke was a senior government policy official. And while all of 
that that I am describing took place, Richard Clarke was there in high-
level positions of authority. He either approved of what was going on 
in all these things, especially that were happening during the Clinton 
administration; he either approved of the policy of the Taliban, he 
approved of not following up on these leads to get bin Laden, or he did 
nothing. Either way, he is certainly high on the 9/11 blame list, and 
he has no credibility in criticizing our President, who, as we now 
know, when he was sworn in as President of the United States, the 9/11 
plot to attack the United States was well on the way, that it had been 
planned long before George Bush was even elected. It was planned and 
started and put into place during the time when Richard Clarke was a 
senior guy at the White House and could have done something about it 
and instead did nothing.
  From the first attack to the World Trade Center in 1993, to the 
bombing of the U.S. military barracks in Saudi Arabia, to the attack on 
the USS Cole, and the destruction of our embassies in Africa, the 
response from the last administration was so tepid and so weak that the 
perpetrators thought Americans were cowards. That was why they went 
ahead with 9/11, which was aimed at killing not just 3,000 Americans 
but tens of thousands of Americans that they thought they were going to 
kill in those towers. This we have learned from those we have captured 
since 9/11. It was the weakness of the 1990s that led to the war that 
we are in today. It was the weakness during the Clinton administration 
years and the weak response and limp-wrist response that we gave to the 
terrorists that encouraged them to move forward with a monstrous attack 
on 9/11.
  By the way, after one attack it is reported that Richard Clarke was 
the White House official who insisted that retaliation be taken against 
guess what target they chose after an attack where our people died? The 
target was a pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan, which had nothing to 
do with terrorism. This was while our government was still helping the 
Taliban stay in power. So we attacked a pharmaceutical company in 
Sudan. Something stinks about this situation, and some day we are going 
to get to the bottom of it and we will learn what forces were at play 
and what the positions of our government and those people really were.
  Then an even more personal incident happened about bin Laden. In 
April and May of 1999, America, our country, had an incredible 
opportunity to be capture bin Laden. And, yes, I was personally 
involved in this one. It is, unfortunately, another example of 
incompetence by those we trust to protect us from attacks like the one 
that occurred on 9/11. In April of 1999, a friend of mine, a long-time 
friend, who was deeply involved in the Afghan fight against Soviet 
occupation, contacted me. My friend, an American, had an impeccable 
record, had credentials, and he was widely known and admired among the 
Afghan people. My friend called to tip me off that bin Laden was out of 
Afghanistan and could be easily captured. I told him I would pass on 
his phone number and his name to the CIA, and I did so the very next 
day. There I passed on my friend's name and phone number and explained 
that they had to get to him right away because he could give them bin 
Laden on a platter and that he had great credentials, so he was 
believable.
  A week passed, and my friend was not called by the CIA. So I went 
back to the CIA, and this time they were adamant that they would 
contact my friend because they insisted they wanted to get bin Laden.
  As time passed, guess what. They did not call my friend again. So I 
went to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss), who is the chairman of 
the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and let me note 
that I have deep respect for the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss) and 
hope that he becomes the next Director of the CIA because he is a man 
who knows that agency and a man who is committed to the security of our 
country and whom I trust explicitly.
  When the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss) heard my story, he 
immediately went into action and arranged a meeting for the next day. 
At that time I met with not just the CIA but with representatives from 
NSA, National Security Agency, and the FBI. They were the ``bin Laden 
Task Force.'' I told them what had happened. They apologized for those 
dunderheads at the CIA, they will never get it right, and they promised 
they would get on it. Another week passed, and my friend still was not 
contacted.
  So here we had bin Laden vulnerable for weeks, and our intelligence 
establishment did nothing. I mentioned it to the gentleman from Florida 
(Mr. Goss). He was appalled. The very next day, and I am sure it had 
something to do with the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss), a 
representative from an intelligence agency called my friend, but the 
caller's tone of voice suggested that the call was obligatory and he 
really was not interested but he made the call, but it would not make 
any difference anyway because by then the trail was too cold to follow.
  This was very strange and very disheartening. We had passed up a 
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again to get the America's most-wanted terrorist, and there was no 
explanation. Either incompetence or by design, I do not know. Clearly, 
however, there was something dreadfully wrong at the CIA or with 
American policy.
  Over at the FBI, it was just as bad, if not worse. It is widely known 
now that 2 months before the September 11 attacks, Phoenix FBI agent 
Kenneth Williams sent a memo to FBI headquarters in Washington and New 
York warning that bin Laden's disciples might be training at U.S. 
flight schools, and he asked for a review of documents and a review of 
the situation to determine if bin Laden's people were being trained in 
other parts of the country. The Williams memo was ignored by David 
Frasca, the Supervisory Special Agent in Washington, D.C.
  One month before 9/11, Minnesota FBI agent Colleen Rowley asked FBI 
headquarters to issue a warrant allowing agents to search would-be 
terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui's computer. They determined that he might 
have links to the terrorists, and when this FBI agent asked that his 
computer be searched, the FBI headquarters ignored her warnings and 
ignored her. So agent Rowley basically notified the CIA about the 
Moussaoui case, and the FBI, when they learned that she had told the 
CIA to watch out for this guy, reprimanded her.

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  There is something terribly wrong in a culture at the FBI if when 
they get admonished for telling the CIA, and they will not investigate 
themselves, and then admonish the person for contacting the CIA.
  Clinton appointee Louis Freeh headed the Bureau for almost 8 years. 
The new director, Robert Mueller, took over just 7 days before 9/11. 
The Bureau obviously needed a major overhaul, and this became painfully 
evident shortly after the World Trade Center crashed to the ground and 
shocked the Nation.
  The troubles at the FBI were not just organizational, but there was a 
mindset there, and that was a problem, but there were also mandates and 
restrictions that were put on the Bureau during this time period.
  Let me note that we had all sorts of political restrictions put on 
the FBI, especially during the 1990s. The one case in point, Jamie 
Gorelick, who now passes judgment on the Bush administration as part of 
the 9/11 investigation, she is part of that committee. In the 1990s, 
she was in the Clinton administration. She ran our domestic terrorist 
law enforcement and intelligence operations, and she wrote a memo while 
a Clinton lawyer forbidding any cooperation between intelligence 
organizations and law enforcement agencies.
  So right here on the 9/11 investigating panel is an example of why we 
suffered 9/11. The presence of Jamie Gorelick on the investigating 
panel represents a massive conflict of interest, and this was well-
known and has been well-known. She should have been removed a long time 
ago. The panel thus is demonstrating the same inflexibility and 
aversion to correct action as it is investigating.
  The Gorelick directives reflected a mindset in the last 
administration, a mindset that was reflected even by high-level career 
intelligence officials.
  The Defense Intelligence Agency, for example, is supposed to provide 
the Pentagon with detailed information necessary for it to deal with 
any potential threat. With all that is spent by the DIA, the Pentagon, 
like the rest of the government, let us just note, the Pentagon was 
caught off guard and unprepared for 9/11, just like the rest, even 
though we spent enormous amounts on the DIA.
  The Pentagon's lack of information and analysis almost had disastrous 
results beyond 9/11. A counterattack strategy almost implemented would 
have sent American military forces into Afghanistan from the south, 
where the goal was occupying a few major cities like Jalalabad and 
Kabul, leaving the Taliban in charge of the countryside. We would then 
negotiate with the Taliban and offer to withdraw our forces if they 
turned over bin Laden.
  The Taliban would have been left in power. That is insane, but that 
was what the policy was. The plan was to come in through the south and 
to have our troops supplied out of bases in northwestern frontier areas 
in Pakistan, an area that we now know as being a anti-American 
stronghold.
  An alternative plan, based cooperation with the battle-tested troops 
of the Northern Alliance took time to develop, because the Pentagon 
didn't know who the players were, much less what the anti-Taliban 
forces in the north could do. My staff, my personal staff, ended up 
providing the Pentagon with the names and satellite cell phone numbers 
of those significant Afghan leaders who opposed the Taliban who could 
help drive them out of Afghanistan.
  That the Pentagon was unprepared was no surprise to me. In early 
1999, a DIA analyst came to me for help. She was in the process of 
being fired, and her story tells us volumes about why 9/11 caught 
America off guard and ill-prepared.
  Julie Sirrs was one of a small number of Afghan analysts at the DIA. 
She took her job seriously, as she should have. She, in fact, went to 
Afghanistan, but was only permitted in those areas controlled by the 
Taliban.
  Upon returning, she realized that her one-dimensional view of 
Afghanistan left gaping holes in the Department of Defense's 
understanding of the situation. She requested to go to Northern 
Afghanistan, especially to that area controlled by anti-Taliban 
Commander Masoud. She was denied permission to go.
  Realizing the danger posed by her lack of information, Julie Sirrs 
took the initiative. She paid her own way, organized her own trip to 
the Panjshir Valley in Northern Afghanistan, which is the bastion of 
Commander Masoud, and he was the last Afghan holdout against the 
Taliban.
  Well, I met with Masoud in one of his mountain strongholds 2 years 
before and had dinner with him and discussed strategy. That was risky. 
What Julie Sirrs did was even riskier for her. What she did was heroic.
  When she got to the Panjshir Valley, she found out her assumptions 
were right. Something vital to America's security was happening, 
something she was not allowed to discover when she visited the Taliban-
controlled areas.
  Commander Masoud told her he was facing a new enemy in Afghanistan. 
Masoud's militia was finding itself in fire fights with some kind of 
fundamentalist foreign legion. Apparently, bin Laden was making 
Afghanistan his base of operations and importing Islamic radicals from 
around the world, training them as terrorist killers and then setting 
them against Masoud's troops for combat experience.
  Masoud offered to let Julie and other Americans interrogate these 
foreign prisoners, many of whom he had captured.
  This was an intelligence bonanza. Julie Sirrs was uncovering the 
creation, the organization and the training of bin Laden terrorist 
army, al Qaeda. She only had a short time. She collected enough 
information for a preliminary report and then she headed home.
  The minute she got back, she was ordered not to distribute her report 
and limit her briefings within her own agency. The commanding officer 
of DIA labeled her as insubordinate, fired her, and when she fought her 
dismissal, he set out to destroy her.
  Amidst the fight to save her job, the DIA Director complained that he 
was upset with Julie because she had made contact with Masoud, who, 
according to the DIA, was a bad guy. This general was sending his 
people to be briefed by the Taliban, but refused them any contact with 
Masoud or he would dismiss them.
  Something is terribly wrong with this picture. The vitriol in the 
attack against Sirrs were shockingly false. Patently false charges were 
brought against her to overwhelm her defenses and to intimidate her and 
force her to go quietly.
  She was charged, for example, with lying, even though the agency lie 
detector test proved she was telling the truth. She was charged with 
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camera to take pictures of Afghanistan. She returned the camera when 
she got back, and she had taken valuable pictures of Northern 
Afghanistan.
  The attacks on this sincere and responsible intelligence analyst were 
arrogant, nasty, malevolent and loathsome. The brutal treatment of 
Sirrs sent a negative message to anyone at that time in the DIA who had 
idea of taking the initiative or thinking creatively.
  Let me just note that Julie Sirrs was fired. She was fired by a 
general who was in charge of the DIA, who I had come to my office. That 
general, General Hughes, is now, unfortunately, a high level official 
in our Department of Homeland Security in charge of analysis.
  There are many things that we need to do, where we need to hold 
people accountable. General Hughes was wrong and put our country in 
jeopardy. These other individuals that I have mentioned tonight, their 
decisions were wrong, the policies were wrong. We must hold them 
accountable.
  We are looking forward to the report by the 9/11 Commission that will 
be up this week to see if they name names, hold people accountable, 
hold policy accountable, and we will be having a further talk on this 
issue later on.
  Julie came to me because she had no one else to whom she could turn. 
I was the one elected official with experience in Afghanistan. I 
requested a meeting with the General and right off the bat he insisted 
Sirrs was insubordinate. I told him that from my view she was a hero, 
risking her job, and her life, spending her own money, all this to get 
information she believed necessary for our country to be prepared if 
something happened in Afghanistan.
  After hearing each other out, I recommended to the General that we 
compromise. If he just gave her back her job she'd end up neither hero 
nor scofflaw. I'd back off and he could use political pressure from me 
as an excuse for reinstating her.
  After the General left my office he not only reaffirmed the firing of 
Julie Sirrs, but later stripped her of her security clearance as well, 
thus eliminating her ability to earn a living as an intelligence 
analyst. He demonstrated how he could destroy anyone who would deviate 
from his program or defy his directives. ``Insubordination'' was the 
ultimate challenge to his authority, and reaffirming his authority, was 
more important than the security of the United States of America.
  A few months later the General retired and all this would have been a 
regrettable but forgotten incident, except for the resultant 9/11 
tragedy. Except for how terribly unprepared the Pentagon was for a war 
in Afghanistan.
  It is my sad duty to report to my colleagues that the General to whom 
I'm referring is Lt. General Patrick Hughes, who today is one of the 
top officials, as Assistant Secretary for Information Analysis at the 
Department of Homeland Security. I am certain that over his long and 
distinguished career he made many contributions, but his indefensible 
conduct in the Sirrs case cast serious doubt over his judgment. I have 
notified Secretary Ridge of this side of General Hughes' character and 
recommended that he should not hold the high level position in the 
Department of Homeland Security that he does.
  When George W. Bush took office in January of 2001, the 9/11 
terrorist operation, unbeknownst to anyone in our government, was 
already well underway. But the threat posed by the radical anti-western 
Islamic regime in Afghanistan was known, and policy towards it needed 
to go. Having worked in the Reagan White House I understood it took 
time for a new President to appoint staff, set policy and begin to take 
control of government. Nevertheless, during that brief interlude 
between Bush's inaugural and 9/11, I met the new National Security 
Council staff on three occasions, including one meeting with 
Condoleezza Rice, to discuss Afghanistan. There were, in fact, signs 
noted in an overview story in the Washington Post that some steps were 
being made to break away from the previous administration's Afghan 
policy.
  One thing was certain to me at that time, George W. Bush, unlike his 
predecessor, would have an unmistakable response to bin Laden's 
terrorist attacks. As I stated earlier we know now that those who 
planned and financed the 9/11 attack did not believe the United States 
would act as forcefully and as unrelentingly as we have. This 
calculation was a result of the tepid American response to earlier al 
Qaeda attacks from Africa to New York City.
  Here again, was an example of the rotten policy that led to 9/11. And 
yes, had we retaliated more aggressively when our Embassies were blown 
up in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 the terrorists we have captured now 
tell us that it may have been given them second thoughts.
  I took pride in those days as being one of the few Members of 
Congress who had maintained an interest in Afghanistan, which I saw as 
a potential major national security threat to our country.
  Then, 2 days before 9/11, the news came that Commander Masoud had 
been murdered in Afghanistan. I felt as if I had lost a friend. As I 
mourned his loss I struggled to fully understand the significance of 
his death. Then it dawned on me why Masoud had been assassinated. 
America was going to be attacked and it would be so monstrous that bin 
Laden's gang in Afghanistan wanted to cut us off from the means of 
counterattacking. We would have turned to Masoud if we were attacked; 
now he was dead. Perhaps his death was a signal to set the planned 
attack in motion.
  So on the 10th of September I tried to alert anyone and everyone who 
would listen to my warning of an imminent terrorist attack. A few 
people listened as a courtesy but for most their eyes simply glazed 
over as I tried to warn them. One of my colleagues, Jim Greenwood, 
stood behind me in an elevator and overheard me lamenting that 
something horrible was about to happen and that I couldn't get anyone 
to take my warnings seriously. It's like the Twilight Zone, I said. As 
I got off the elevator he lightheartedly patted me on the back and with 
a smile told me not to be so melodramatic and certainly not so 
apocryphal.
  Undeterred, I called the White House and asked for an emergency 
appointment to see Condoleezza Rice in order to warn her of a major 
impending attack. Her office apologized that she was incredibly busy 
that day, but she respected my opinion and would see me at 3 p.m. the 
next day. The next day was 9/11. The plans began flying into the 
buildings at 8:48 a.m.
  In the afternoon of that chaotic and fateful day, my colleague, 
Congressman Greenwood, approached me. I've been telling everyone how 
you tried to warn people of this. You knew it was about to happen? How 
did you know? We must ask, how is it that one Member of Congress, with 
the help of one staff member, was able to analyze the situation and 
determine that the terrorists based in Afghanistan were about to launch 
a major attack on us, when the CIA and others failed to do so. The 
question is not how did I know. It is why didn't the rest of the 
establishment know. Those whose job it is to protect us should be held 
accountable for 9/11, for not thwarting the attack or even warning us.
  On 9/11 there was an incident that underscored that something was 
dreadfully wrong at the CIA. Shortly after the attack I called King 
Zahir Shah in Rome. He was now America's greatest asset in any action 
against the terrorist forces in Afghanistan. Masoud was dead, but the 
Afghan people would rally behind the King. If I could figure that out 
so could the Taliban, so I was shocked to find that the King had no 
protection. He was totally vulnerable. I told the King to stay put and 
went to work. I called the CIA and managed to speak directly to one of 
Tenet's top lieutenants. I explained the situation and he acknowledged 
the importance of the King, assuring me he would take care of it.
  About 5 hours later, I happened to run into this gentleman. I will 
never forget his response when I asked if the King was now being 
protected. ``You don't expect us to act that fast do you?''
  Just like at the FBI, there was something wrong with the mindset at 
the CIA. Yes, George Tenet must be placed on that 9/11 blame list; 
perhaps his name should be underlined.
  It is time for those who made possible the rest of the Taliban; the 
rise of bin Laden and yes, the tragedy of 9/11 to be held personally 
accountable.
  The list stretches over both Republican and Democratic 
administrations. Through the failures of the CIA under Reagan to the 
blunders of the State Department under Bush to the incompetence and 
disingenuous posturing of the diplomats under Clinton, accountability 
requires that their names be given.
  Retired General Patrick Hughes, who as head of the DIA fired Julie 
Sirrs and who today holds a high position in the Department of Homeland 
Security.
  Former Ambassador and now Governor Bill Richardson, who save the 
Taliban from military defeat.
  Former senior CIA Officer Milt Bearden, who armed the most fanatic of 
the Afghan factions in this struggle against Soviet Occupation.
  Former Assistant Secretary of State Rick Inderfurth, who weakened the 
anti-Taliban forces.
  Former CIA Director George Tenet, whose culpability should have led 
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  Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was the point 
person for the policy of covert support for the Taliban, and who 
derailed the opportunity to receive a detailed account of the entire al 
Qaeda terrorist network.
  And finally, Richard Clarke, former senior Clinton official, who 
along with a few others was in a position to argue against if not to 
change the grotesquely mistaken policies of the 80s and 90s, but failed 
to do so.
  If another 9/11 is to be avoided, we need accountability, not 
rearranging of bureaucratic organization charts. There was nothing 
wrong with our system that brought on 9/11, which will not be corrected 
by having different policies in place and different people in positions 
of authority.
  Let us now, if nothing else, be honest with each other and insist on 
an honest accounting. Then let's beat our murderous enemy so completely 
that no one will ever miscalculate about our power and courage ever 
again.

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