[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 150 (2004), Part 10]
[House]
[Page 13212]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                    FAST FACTS ON THE SPENDING ISSUE

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the 
gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Gutknecht) is recognized for 5 minutes.
  Mr. GUTKNECHT. Mr. Speaker and Members, I rise tonight to talk about 
our budget, the Federal budget and enforcing that budget. Now, I came 
here with Mr. Jones and others with a fairly large class back in 1995 
we were elected to Congress. And I will never forget one of the first 
meetings we were invited to was held by some of the top economics folks 
here in Washington and folks from the Congressional Budget Office. And 
they told us at that meeting that if we did not get serious about 
balancing the budget, we forget now that back throughout most of the 
1980s, we were running deficits exceeding $200 billion, in fact, by 
today's accounting standards it would have probably approached $300 
billion, but, nonetheless, we had this meeting and at the meeting they 
told us that if we in Congress did not get serious about balancing the 
Federal books, that by the time my children got to be my age, they 
could be facing a tax rate at the Federal level of over 80 percent just 
to pay the interest on the national debt.
  Well, the good news is we got serious about balancing the Federal 
budget. We limited the growth in Federal spending. We allowed the 
Federal budget to grow at a slower rate than the average family budget. 
And the net result is we went from $275 billion deficits to $250 
billion surpluses. And that happened largely because we controlled 
Federal spending. From 1995 until 2000, total Federal spending only 
grew at an average rate of about 3.2 percent.
  Now, since 2001, I have to say, Federal spending has grown at more 
than double that rate, at an average rate of 6.4 percent. You can see 
that from this chart. In fact, this chart and the 6.4 percent growth in 
Federal spending assumes that we will actually abide by and live with 
the very tough budget that this House has passed.
  Now, unfortunately, the other body has not passed a budget this year 
and so we will have to negotiate with some of the folks over there and 
so the 6.4 percent assumes that we will wind up with the House's very 
tight numbers in which we freeze large chunks of the Federal budget.
  Let me give for the benefit of some of the members and others who may 
be tuning in, some of the other numbers about the budget. Since 2001, 
according to the House Committee on the Budget, discretionary spending, 
that is a way of saying things beyond the entitlements, has gone up an 
average of 9.7 percent per year. So it is not just about 9/11 and it is 
not just about the war, it is about a lot of other things we have been 
spending money on.
  Mandatory spending has now increased to a point where mandatory 
spending, and these are the things which we sometimes call 
entitlements, Medicare, Social Security, welfare-type benefits, there 
are a lot of benefits inside the Federal Government that if you qualify 
for them, you automatically receive them. Mandatory spending or 
entitlement spending today represents 55 percent of the Federal budget. 
And this does not include the new entitlement that was created this 
year under Medicare for prescription drugs which, according to one 
study, will add over $16\1/2\ trillion of unfunded liabilities to the 
Federal budget long term.
  Finally, let me say and that I think this is important in recognizing 
how big the budget has become. For the first time since World War II, 
total Federal spending has reached more than $20,000 per household in 
the United States.
  Well, what can we do about all of this? Well, what we need to do is 
get back to basics. What we did for most of the 1990s we had here in 
Washington the House and Senate had agreed to what are call spending 
caps and PAYGO rules. And we need to bring them back. I am not the only 
one who believes that. Later this week the house is going to vote on 
some spending caps and PAYGO provisions that I think are long overdue.
  Mr. Speaker, I am not the only one who feels that. Let me read what 
Chairman Alan Greenspan said about PAYGO and spending caps and house 
Committee on the Budget in July of 2003. I will quote, ``I would like 
to see the restoration of PAYGO and discretionary caps, which 
essentially will restrain the expansion of the deficit and indeed 
ultimately contain it.'' He went on to say, ``It did that back in the 
early 1990s. I thought it was quite surprisingly successful in 
restraining what had been a budget which had gotten out of kilter. I 
would like to see those restraints reimposed and, by their very nature, 
they will bring fiscal responsibility back.''
  Let me just read what he also said in a Committee on the Budget in 
2002 about spending caps and PAYGO. ``Restoring fiscal discipline must 
be a high priority. The progress in the 1990s in reducing budget 
deficits might have been elusive were it not for the budget rules that 
had worked far better than many skeptics, myself included,'' and this 
is Mr. Greenspan speaking, ``myself included had expected.''
  ``Now is not the time to abandon the discipline of the structure that 
worked so well for so long.

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  The framework enacted in the Budget Enforcement Act of 1990 must be 
preserved.
  Well, we allowed those spending caps to expire a few years ago; and 
it is no coincidence that when we allowed the spending caps to expire, 
Federal spending began to go up at double the rate it went up for most 
of the 1990s. We will have an opportunity on Thursday to deal with 
this. Hopefully, we will have a vote on this thing; and we need to 
return to some form of spending caps and PAYGO.
  We have got a tough budget here in the House. We have got to make 
certain that it gets enforced. I am not the only one who believes that. 
Dr. Alan Greenspan was saying this a couple of years ago.

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