[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 149 (2003), Part 1]
[Senate]
[Pages 423-428]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




                          THE NATION'S ECONOMY

  Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, last Thursday I spoke at some length about 
the Nation's economy and pointed out what I thought at that time were 
some of the deficiencies in the President's plan for economic recovery.
  In my remarks on Thursday, in reading them over in the Record, I 
thought maybe I might have been a little harsh; maybe my remarks were a 
little too pointed in that they referred to the President's economic 
plan as one that would unduly benefit the wealthiest in our country and 
that would not do much to really help working Americans.
  After reading the newspapers over the weekend, I have come to the 
conclusion that what I said on Thursday was not nearly as harsh a 
judgment on the President's economic policy as that of some of our 
foremost economic thinkers and writers in America today.
  So after reading these newspapers this weekend, I thought I would 
call the attention of my colleagues and others to several articles that 
appeared on this topic over the weekend, which I think are graphic in 
their detail and analysis of how awful the President's economic program 
is, and will be for this country if we enact his latest version.
  The first thing I saw was, on Saturday morning, a front-page article 
that said the economy lost 100,000 jobs in December. The unemployment 
rate remains at an 8-year high. This was on the front page of the 
Washington Post on January 11:

       U.S. companies shed more than 100,000 jobs last month, 
     reducing payrolls to their lowest level since the recession 
     began in early 2001, while the unemployment rate remained at 
     6 percent, its eight-year high, the Labor Department reported 
     yesterday.

  Again, unemployment is high and continues to get worse. So clearly we 
have to do something in this country to stem the rising tide of people 
who are not working.
  Looking back a couple of years ago to when the first economic 
downturn started, when the President put his recovery program into 
place, in 2001, it is clear it is not working. We are 18 months later 
and it is not working. It is going in the wrong direction. So do we 
keep going down that road or do we start to make some changes? That is 
what we have to do. We have to recognize we are going down the wrong 
road and we have to make some changes.
  The President has now proclaimed his new economic program to build on 
the misguided one of 2001. This is a David Broder column from Sunday's 
Washington Post entitled: ``It Reeks of Politics.'' I wondered what he 
was talking about. I thought maybe he was talking about judicial 
appointments or something like that--``It Reeks of Politics.'' No. What 
Mr. Broder was talking about was the economic program. I will quote 
some parts of it.

       Before the O'Neill talk--

  He is talking about a phone call from Paul O'Neill--

       I asked one of my favorite Republican economics guides what 
     he thought of the new

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     Bush tax plan. He did not mince words. This man--a veteran of 
     the Nixon and Ford administrations and a friend and adviser 
     to many officials in the Reagan and two Bush 
     administrations--said, ``It may be the least defensible 
     policy ever.'' I would amend that slightly. It is probably 
     the most ill-considered since Treasury Secretary John 
     Connally persuaded President Nixon to freeze wages and prices 
     in 1971. Like that move--designed to help Nixon's reelection 
     in 1972, whatever the damaging long-term consequences, this 
     latest pack of proposals reeks of politics. The proposal to 
     eliminate taxes on dividends--the centerpiece of the plan and 
     the source of more than half of its staggering costs--looks 
     like ``the wrong reform at the wrong time,'' my mentor said.

  I ask unanimous consent to have Mr. Broder's column printed in the 
Record at this point.
  There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in 
the Record, as follows:

               [From the Washington Post, Jan. 12, 2003]

                          It Reeks of Politics

                          (By David S. Broder)

       When Commerce Secretary Don Evans phoned me to praise the 
     tax plan announced by President Bush last week--he must have 
     drawn the short straw to have my name on his call list--he 
     assured me that the ``bold package'' would boost ``the 
     general well-being of the people.''
       ``Nobody wins unless we all win,'' the president's longtime 
     friend said--a sentiment with which I assured him I 
     concurred.
       In his next breath, Evans derided the rival Democratic 
     stimulus plan--which would cost one-fifth as much as the $674 
     billion, 10-year Bush package--because it relies mainly on a 
     one-time rebate of $300 to every taxpayer. ``One-shot 
     remedies don't work,'' Evans said. ``You have to create a 
     feeling of certainty for at least the next 10 years, so 
     businesses and families can plan.''
       It was not that long ago that the White House was telling 
     us that the 2001 tax rebate--$300 for individuals and $600 
     for families--had been instrumental in making the recession 
     ``the shortest and shallowest in history.'' But now, as the 
     president's re-election approaches and unemployment lingers 
     at uncomfortably high levels, the ``certainty'' of 2001's 10-
     year Bush tax plan is being scrapped by the administration in 
     hopes of pumping the economy before the voters get to the 
     polls.
       Is it needed? In his first public appearance since he was 
     fired last month as Treasury secretary, Paul O'Neill told a 
     Sulgrave Club audience the other night that, with the economy 
     growing at a 3 percent annual rate in the first three 
     quarters of 2002, ``it is hard to see a need for Keynesian 
     remedies,'' i.e., further tax cuts and more stimulus.
       Before the O'Neill talk, I asked one of my favorite 
     Republican economics guides what he thought of the new Bush 
     tax plan. He did not mince words. This man--a veteran of the 
     Nixon and Ford administrations and a friend and adviser to 
     many officials in the Reagan and two Bush administrations--
     said, ``it may be the least defensible policy ever.'' I would 
     amend that slightly: It is probably the most ill-considered 
     since Treasury Secretary John Connally persuaded President 
     Nixon to freeze wages and prices in 1971.
       Like that move--designed to help Nixon's reelection in 
     1972, whatever the damaging long-term consequences--this 
     latest pack of proposals reeks of politics. The proposal to 
     eliminate taxes on dividends--the centerpiece of the plan and 
     the source of more than half its staggering cost--looks like 
     ``the wrong reform at the wrong time,'' my mentor said.
       Eliminating the double taxation of dividends--once on the 
     profits of the corporation and again on the payout to the 
     stockholder--has been discussed in every Republican 
     administration, he said, and considered by some Democratic 
     presidents. It has a sound foundation, because double 
     taxation tilts corporate finance toward borrowing, rather 
     than going into the equity markets. But, he said, business 
     groups and almost all economists agree that the right way to 
     remedy the situation is to make dividend payments deductible 
     for the corporations, as interest payments already are.
       Instead of that straightforward policy, the administration 
     chose to lift the tax on dividend recipients--eliminating any 
     direct benefit to the companies--so that Bush could claim, as 
     he did, that this change ``is for the good of our senior 
     citizens'' who count on dividends to supplement their Social 
     Security.
       That argument has gaping holes. As was quickly noted by the 
     accounting industry, the Bush proposal entails complicated 
     calculations for both business and individual taxpayers, 
     adding further complexity to the tax code.
       Moreover, it would not affect the mass of dividends that go 
     into the 401(k) plans on which most working Americans depend 
     for additional retirement income. Those dividends are not 
     immediately taxed now, and the taxes due when the money is 
     withdrawn would remain unchanged under the Bush proposal.
       According to an analysis by the Urban Institute and the 
     Brookings Institution, 64 percent of the $364 billion in 
     benefits from dividend tax elimination would go to the top 5 
     percent of taxpayers, the same people who are the main 
     beneficiaries of the Bush tax cuts of 2001.
       Over time, eliminating this tax would likely deepen the 
     growing budget deficits. The first round of Bush tax cuts 
     will cost more than $1.3 trillion in revenue over 10 years. 
     This package pushes the costs to the $2 trillion level--even 
     as the demands of homeland defense, the war on terrorism and 
     a possible attack on Iraq add to spending pressures.
       But none of this is likely to deter Bush. His arguments are 
     flexible, but the policy is constant: Keep cutting taxes from 
     the top down.

  Mr. HARKIN. Mr. Rove and the political advisers to the President may 
think it is good politics, but it is terribly damaging to our economy. 
Again, I refer to some Republicans in this Congress and in this 
administration who support this plan, and I said they should properly 
be called ``red ink Republicans'' because they seem to have absolutely 
no concern about pushing plans that will skyrocket the deficit and the 
national debt.
  Mr. Broder goes on in the last couple of paragraphs to point out:

       Over time, eliminating this tax--

  The dividend tax--

     would likely deepen the growing budget deficits. The first 
     round of Bush tax cuts will cost more than $1.3 trillion in 
     revenue over 10 years. This package--

  This new package--

     pushes the costs to the $2 trillion level--even as the 
     demands of homeland defense, the war on terrorism and a 
     possible attack on Iraq add to spending pressures. But none 
     of this is likely to deter Bush. His arguments are flexible, 
     but the policy is constant: Keep cutting taxes from the top 
     down.

  Now we are talking about more than $2 trillion in deficits. I guess 
the times have changed. Former Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois once 
said: A billion here and a billion there, and pretty soon you are 
talking about real money. We have to revise that. Now it is a trillion 
here and a trillion there and pretty soon you are talking about real 
money. And, that is before we add huge additional sums in interest to 
be paid on the debt.
  We have considerable needs that we have to meet domestically: 
Homeland defense, a possible war with Iraq--I hope not--a huge unfunded 
mandate on local schools called Leave No Child Behind, which is 
underfunded; special education, totally underfunded. These last two 
items, the cost of special education, the cost of all the testing and 
everything to leave no child behind, they mean higher property taxes at 
the local level, which is harder on the middle class than the tax on 
corporate dividends.
  If we do not meet our obligations at the Federal level on special 
education and meet other education needs like the unfunded mandate of 
Leave No Child Behind, that means the States and local communities will 
have to do it. They will raise property taxes. That hits the middle 
class a lot harder than the tax on dividends.
  Of course, towards the end of the decade we will have the retirement 
of the baby boomers coming. Then where will the money be to fix Social 
Security and Medicare? We will be so far in the hole at that time maybe 
then that dream will come true of those who want to privatize Social 
Security. Maybe that is what it is all about at the end of this decade.
  So the reading this weekend was not too good, not promotive of the 
President's policies. There were a lot of warning shots heard. There 
was another article in the Sunday Washington Post, ``A Tax Plan That 
Will Pay Few Dividends.'' The article was written by Reuven S. Avi-
Yonah, the Irwin I. Cohn Professor of Law at the University of 
Michigan, and David S. Miller who is a tax lawyer in Manhattan. I don't 
know either one of these individuals. Reading their article is a clear 
warning to those in Congress that if the President will not cease and 
desist from this ill-considered tax scheme of his to cut taxes on 
dividends, then we in the Senate must hold up the stop sign and say no. 
This article, ``A Tax Plan That Will Pay Few Dividends,'' is alarming 
in how it paints the future of what happens if we go down that path:


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       So the portrayal of the double tax on dividends as evil is 
     more fiction than fact. Dividend exclusion is unlikely to 
     have the desired effect of lifting the stock market, and the 
     administration's proposal won't really cure the woes of our 
     corporate tax system.
       Instead, it raises serious issues. First, if the measure 
     does encourage individuals to shift investments from taxable 
     bonds into more risky tax-free dividend-paying stocks, the 
     investing public will be less diversified and less cushioned 
     for the next stock market downturn. And if the proposal 
     succeeds in increasing dividend rates, corporations might 
     borrow more to pay higher yields, making balance sheets all 
     the more shaky.
       And fourth, the exclusion will benefit the wealthy. The 
     Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimates that the 
     wealthiest 1 percent of all taxpayers could capture as much 
     as 42 percent of the benefits of a dividend exclusion. This 
     ``tax cut'' won't put any more money in the hands of working 
     Americans.
       But we are certain of one thing: Excluding dividends from 
     taxation will create opportunities for new tax shelters. 
     There will be tax shelters that permit corporations to 
     artificially manufacture dividends for shareholders and 
     shelters that permit shareholders to receive tax-exempt 
     dividends without economically ``owning'' any of the 
     underlying stock. Each of these shelters is easy to develop 
     under current law.
       If history is any guide, Congress will respond by enacting 
     new rules to stop taxpayers from abusing the exclusion. Given 
     the IRS's recent track record, these anti-abuse rules will 
     run to hundreds of pages, few cheats will ever be caught, 
     those cases will take years to litigate and ultimately the 
     anti-abuse rules will prove ineffective.

  Then this morning, I listened to NPR and I obtained a transcription. 
This was ``Morning Edition'' on National Public Radio. Bob Edwards was 
host in the first of a series of commentaries about the Bush economic 
plan. Commentator Kevin Phillips says:
       The White House proposal to eliminate taxes on dividends 
     will increase debate over class warfare in the U.S. economic 
     policy.

  Then Kevin Phillips came on, and he said:

       Over the last two decades, the Republicans in Washington 
     have been quick to charge class warfare when the Democrats 
     complain that this or that tax or economic proposal gives too 
     much to the American rich. By this the Democrats usually mean 
     the top 1 percent income group. It's been a good GOP 
     strategy, and sometimes it has worked when Democratic 
     debaters have backed off. But this time, with the 
     administration's proposal to allocate more than half of a 
     $674 billion economic stimulus program to tax relief for 
     stock dividends, the whole class warfare issue was riding a 
     giant boomerang.
       The Democrats say, and they're quite right, that what the 
     administration is doing is in itself class warfare; high-
     income policy makeovers are short-changing the other income 
     groups. The top 1 percent of Americans alone hold some 40 
     percent of the individually owned stock in the United States, 
     and they also get about that same 40 percent ratio of 
     dividends paid out. Given all the concern in the White House 
     and elsewhere about pumping support into a weak economy, this 
     proposal is really mind-blowing, not just for its contents, 
     but for its lack of stimulus. Republican Senator John McCain 
     had called for payroll tax relief.

  Well, so have I. Last Thursday I said what we ought to be calling for 
is a payroll tax holiday with the trust funds fully reimbursed through 
the general fund for perhaps four months and put the money where it 
really needs to go.

       But not George Bush. The congressional leadership in the 
     White House are so wedded to an economic policy keyed to 
     helping those at the top that they lined up behind what is 
     really a program to make stock dividends into a 10-year, $300 
     billion individual income tax shelter. This isn't just 
     trickle-down economics. The benefits to the rest of the 
     economy, even to the stock market, are so conjectural that 
     trickle-down looks to become misting down.

  That is Kevin Phillips; with long Republican credentials.
  I say to my friend from Nevada, after the trickle-down economics of 
the 1980s, one of my constituents came up to me in Iowa and said: I 
heard all about the trickle-down, I have not even had any drops on me. 
I would just settle for a heavy dew. That is what Kevin Philips said we 
might get out of this: Maybe a heavy dew.
  I yield to the Senator from Nevada.
  Mr. REID. I heard the Senator speaking and wanted to congratulate the 
Senator. I listened also to Kevin Phillips' presentation. By the way, 
Kevin Phillips is a Republican, not a Democrat. But he was fair in his 
analysis. Quite clearly, all economists that I know, unless they work 
at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, say this tax plan is bizarre. Crazy.
  The Senator is aware, is he not, that not only do we have this tax 
plan that is floating around, that is going to be very harmful short 
term and disastrous long term, the Senator is aware that the Wall 
Street Journal, which is also not a piece put out by the Democratic 
Party, said today, on page 2: ``Slump in Job Market is Longest in 
Decades.'' And near-term prospects for workers remain grim?
  Is the Senator aware that is in the Wall Street Journal today?
  Mr. HARKIN. I was so depressed after reading the newspapers this 
weekend, I didn't pick up the Wall Street Journal this morning. I guess 
I could get depressed further reading that.
  Mr. REID. This article points out, among other things, last month 
this economy lost over 101,000 jobs. I know this because I was on a 
television program with Tim Russert. He had a chart demonstrating all 
the Presidents of the United States going back to Truman. Every 
President created jobs--Nixon, Truman, Eisenhower, all of them except 
George W. Bush. That chart shows the only President that has not 
created jobs, George W. Bush, and, in fact, he has lost 2.5 million 
jobs.
  Is the Senator aware of that?
  Mr. HARKIN. I was not. I was aware of the fact we lost 100,000 jobs 
in December. It was Christmas. Imagine, at Christmas, to have 100,000 
jobs lost. I also know we are at the highest unemployment level in over 
8 years.
  Mr. REID. The Senator is right. The Senator is absolutely right.
  Also, this article in the Wall Street Journal has a number of graphs 
and charts, but one of the things that just jumped out at me is the 
levels of unemployment of certain segments of our economy, certain 
demographic segments. It just jumps out.
  Teenagers, of course, a lot of them are unemployed, and they want to 
work. But for African-American teenagers the unemployment rate is over 
33 percent. It has gone up. From last year to this year, it has gone up 
3 percent. These are kids who want to work.
  Mr. HARKIN. That is right.
  Mr. REID. There are no jobs for them.
  Mr. HARKIN. Then we wonder why kids in the cities are hanging around 
the streets and get into drug, joining gangs and things like that. They 
need jobs. They need to be put to work.
  Mr. REID. I say to my friend, the distinguished Senator from Iowa, I 
was on a talk radio program this morning in Las Vegas--conservative. 
One of the things I have advocated is that the Federal Government 
should spend money creating jobs, infrastructure. I know in Iowa there 
are water systems that need to be worked on, sewer systems that need to 
be repaired and enlarged, highways, bridges, dams that need to be 
worked on.
  Mr. HARKIN. Schools.
  Mr. REID. And school repairs. This is a conservative program. They 
brought it up.
  They said: I understand you want to have jobs and spend taxpayers' 
money on creating jobs.
  I said: Yes, I do.
  They said: Wouldn't the private sector be better off creating those 
jobs?
  I said: Wait just a second. You understand the private sector is the 
one that is going to be conducting the work.
  Mr. HARKIN. That is true.
  Mr. REID. It is no Government giveaway. These are projects that need 
to be done, roads that need to be built, dams that need to be repaired.
  Mr. HARKIN. That is right.
  Mr. REID. I think we had a good discussion on this conservative radio 
program. I hope I educated them and their listeners because I said, 
among other things, that for every $1 billion we spend, we create 
42,000 or 44,000 jobs. Think about that. These are good jobs, people 
who are paying taxes, they are buying refrigerators and cars.
  We have this backwards. We are trying to help the wrong people, to 
create this windfall to the very wealthy in this scheme. There is no 
better place to start than the President and the Vice President. Is the 
Senator aware that the President of the United States and the Vice 
President of the United States would benefit significantly from this 
dividend scheme? In fact, between the two of them, the benefits would 
be over $400,000 a year.

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  Mr. HARKIN. A huge benefit.
  Mr. REID. Don't we have this backwards? Wouldn't it be better if we 
were creating jobs rather than cutting taxes for the wealthy?
  Mr. HARKIN. I say to my friend from Nevada, the assistant minority 
leader: You are thinking too rationally. You are just thinking too 
rationally. Evidently what is happening down there at the White House 
is they want to think irrationally. But we have to stand up and we have 
to think along the lines the Senator is talking about here right now.
  The Senator put his finger on it. I have been somewhat successful in 
the last few years, getting some money in my State for rebuilding and 
modernizing schools all over the State of Iowa. I visited--not all of 
them, I visited a number of them: new classrooms, getting new 
technology in.
  I visited one school that just started up this fall, and one of the 
workers there, one of the brick masons, saw me outside. He said: I 
understand you helped get some Federal money to get this going, get 
this school improved.
  I said yes.
  He said: I want to thank you. It put food on my family's table for 
months, working on that school.
  To answer this sort of statement the Senator made earlier about: 
Well, these are government jobs; wouldn't the private sector be 
better?--all the jobs done on that school were done in the private 
sector: private contractors, private electricians. They buy all the 
stuff from the private sector. So the ripple effect in the economy was 
tremendous.
  That is why the Senator has put his finger on it. There are so many 
unmet needs in this country. I focus on schools a lot. I think the 
recent estimate is somewhere in the neighborhood of $189 billion, I 
believe--I could be off some--just to bring all our public schools up 
to modern-day standards; in other words, to give them the heating and 
the air-conditioning, the lighting, fire standards, the Internet 
hookups--just making them modern. What an unmet need out there.
  What if we were to do that? Think of the jobs we would create. One 
thing I might also say to my friend from Nevada: Just think, not only 
do you get the jobs' ripple effect in the economy, but when it is over 
with, you have something that lasts a long time. You have new schools.
  Mr. REID. I say to my friend, the distinguished Senator from Iowa, I 
traveled to one of Nevada's schools fairly recently, Boulder City High 
School. It is an old school now. It is an old high school. It is hard 
for me to comprehend Boulder City having an old high school, but they 
do. The average school in America is 45 years old. The average school--
think of that--is 45 years old. Schools need to be refurbished and 
rebuilt. Boulder City is kind of unusual in Clark County, in Nevada, 
because most of our schools there are new. We hold the record. We 
dedicated 18 new schools in 1 year in the Clark County School District.
  So certainly the Senator is right. But I wanted to say this about the 
thing the Senator mentioned, and Kevin Phillips was mentioned, and he 
talked about class warfare. They believe the best defense is a good 
offense. So they have been whacking away at us since they introduced 
this ridiculous tax plan. They have been whacking away at us saying: 
They, the Democrats, are trying to create class warfare. We are not 
doing it. They have been doing it with their ridiculous tax plan.
  I have nothing against rich people. I wish them well if they can make 
a lot of money and be rich. But they have created that, that the very 
wealthy are going to get tax benefits from this plan and the middle 
class and the poor get nothing.
  Mr. HARKIN. That is right.
  Mr. REID. Almost literally nothing. We are only bringing out facts 
and talking about the reality of this tax plan. We are not trying to 
create class warfare.
  That is why the Wall Street Journal writes about this:

       Slump in Job Market Is Longest in Decades.

  We are not doing that. That is a fact of life.
  Mr. HARKIN. I say to my friend from Nevada, I got depressed reading 
the weekend newspapers. Here is one in the Business section of the 
Sunday Washington Post, apropos of what you are just talking about 
here, about whom this is benefitting. The headline:

       Some CEOs Would See a Windfall.

  They have a nice little 1040 Tax Code wrapped up as a nice package 
here.
  It says here:

       . . . some of the biggest potential winners under the Bush 
     plan would be top executives at dividend-paying companies who 
     own big blocks of their firm's shares.
       Walt Disney Co.'s Michael D. Eisner, for instance, owns 
     about 14 million company shares, a spokesman said. Disney 
     announced an annual dividend of 21 cents this month, which 
     adds up to about $2.9 million for Eisner. Under the current 
     tax code, assuming Eisner is in the highest personal income 
     tax bracket, the Disney chairman and CEO would pay about $1.3 
     million in state and federal taxes on that amount, according 
     to a tax expert at a major accounting firm. Under the Bush 
     plan, he might pay nothing on that portion of his income.

  It went on. There were some other ones here that they mentioned. 
Sanford Weil, who owns 22.8 million shares, would save as much as $6.9 
million in taxes.
  Mr. REID. This is per year. This is not over a lifetime; this is per 
year.
  Mr. HARKIN. This is for 1 year. I am sorry. I thank the Senator for 
pointing that out. It is not a lifetime sum. It might be repeated year 
after year.
  Douglas Daft owns 2.5 million shares in Coca-Cola. He is chief 
executive. Coke paid 80 cents a share in dividends. Under the Bush 
plan, he would save about $875,000 in taxes.
  These are all, I am sure, fine individuals. They have done a lot. 
They have invested in America, helped build big corporations. They are 
CEOs. I have nothing against them, as the Senator said. I have nothing 
against them. They are likely to be fine people. But does that mean 
what we are going to do now is take the Tax Code and give them even 
more wealth, as the Senator said, when we have 100,000 people in 
December out of work and we have so many unmet needs in this country? 
This is a cockamamie scheme.
  My friend from South Carolina, who sits across the aisle from me, 
Senator Hollings, once said this came about after Charles Schwab went 
down to the Texas ranch--I guess in December or sometime like that--and 
had a little bite to eat and a little refreshment with the President. 
And Schwab evidently said: This is a good idea. And the President said: 
It sounds good to me. Let's do it.
  Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield?
  Mr. HARKIN. I would be happy to yield.
  Mr. REID. Last week I called someone the Senator from Iowa knows. He 
is a very strong businessman. I don't want to embarrass him. It was a 
private telephone call.
  I said: Tell me what you think about this tax thing. He said: It is 
crazy. He would benefit from it. He said: It is crazy. There are too 
many things that need to be done.
  I said: Would you come down and join with us and say something 
publicly about this? He said: I have a lot of government contracts, and 
I am afraid I would be punished if I did something like that.
  He is not kidding. He has a lot of government contracts. The people 
from 16th and Pennsylvania Avenue and all people in the Cabinet have 
some influence over who gets contracts and how they keep them.
  I would also say this is in support of and in commendation for rich 
people in America. I have, as does the Senator from Iowa, some rich 
friends. I have not had a single person from Nevada call me about this 
goofy scheme. I haven't had a single Nevadan call me. They know me 
well. If they liked this program, they would call me.
  There have been other tax proposals from the White House--in the 
Clinton administration and in this administration--that I got calls on 
saying either do it or not do it. I haven't received a single call from 
my wealthy Nevada friends, or from wealthy Nevadans who may not be my 
friends, I haven't had anybody call me and say: Reid, I want you to 
support this. This is important to me.

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  I don't think they could do it with a straight face.
  Could Michael Eisner support what is happening? Knowing all of the 
charitable things the Disney corporation is involved in, he couldn't 
possibly want more money for himself personally and another $2 million 
a year when he makes these multimillions. He knows this should go 
toward some of the public service things that need to be done and some 
of the health things that need to be done--the terrible battle we are 
fighting in the United States with AIDS and the like. I have to 
acknowledge and applaud wealthy Americans because they are not out 
clamoring for this to be done.
  Mr. HARKIN. I agree with my friend. I have had not a single call 
either. I have often said there is nothing wrong with being rich in 
America. There is nothing wrong with having a nicer home and a nicer 
car, or a nicer lifestyle, as long as you have done it honestly and 
forthrightly. And most wealthy people have done it that way. There is 
nothing wrong with that. But I think the obligation that we have in 
government is to make sure we leave the ladder down for others to 
climb.
  What the Bush administration seems to be saying is: You have a lot of 
money, you have made all this money, and you can pull the ladder up 
behind you. And guess what. We are going to help you pull the ladder up 
behind you.
  That is not my idea of what America is about. America is about 
fairness and equity and giving the kids from Searchlight, NV, or 
Cumming, IA, that same opportunity to get a great education, to be 
healthy, to have a piece of that American dream, and to have that 
opportunity. But the more we concentrate wealth in the hands of a few 
people and then use the Government to ensure that they not only keep it 
to get wealthy, the more we are taking that American dream from those 
kids in Searchlight, NV, and Cumming, IA.
  Mr. REID. If the Senator will yield, I want to say a word, if I may, 
before the Senator from Rhode Island, who is the Presiding Officer, 
leaves the Chamber.
  The junior Senator from Rhode Island I think set a mark for people on 
the other side of the aisle when he was the first to come out against 
this proposal. That is the way I heard it. I read in the paper that the 
Senator from Rhode Island opposes this, and as a result of his doing 
this, there have been several other Republican Senators who followed. 
Before he leaves the floor, I want to express my appreciation for the 
courage of the Senator from Rhode Island in coming out against this 
program.
  Mr. HARKIN. I would add my commendations also to my good friend, the 
Senator from Rhode Island, for his forthrightness in coming out as he 
did. I appreciate that.
  Mr. REID. I have taken so much of the Senator's time.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Coleman). The Senator's time has expired.
  Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent for 15 additional 
minutes.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I apologize for using so much of the 
Senator's time.
  Mr. HARKIN. It is a good exchange. I appreciate it.
  Mr. REID. I will say this last thing. I hope that we, the Democrats, 
and those courageous Republicans who oppose this don't fall for some 
compromise. I hope they don't come back and say: Well, we will not do 
away with all of that, but we will do such and such.
  We have to recognize this for what it is. It is a bad program. We are 
broke as a country, and in the 2 years of this Bush administration they 
have ruined the economy. During the last 3 years of the Clinton 
administration we were taking in more money than we were spending.
  Mr. HARKIN. There was a surplus.
  Mr. REID. It is remarkable. We were paying down the surplus. They 
have wasted the largest surplus that we were able to acquire. It is a 
terrible shame. I hope we don't have some cockamamie compromise where 
people walk out here and say: Well, it is not as bad as it could have 
been. We should recognize this for what it is and not compromise. We 
don't want it.
  That is how I think we should move forward.
  Mr. HARKIN. Here is the chart that illustrates it. Here we are, 
starting in, in 1981, with the first Reagan tax program. Look at what 
happened to the deficit. It went down and down until finally we had the 
1993 plan when we started to reinvest in America and get our economy 
back on track. Look at what happened. Look at this. It is a steady 
climb up for 8 straight years to one of the largest surpluses we have 
ever had in America.
  Then, in 2001, the administration couldn't stand that we were getting 
out of debt. There were actually too much surplus for them. We were 
paying down national debt for future generations. This is the 2001 tax 
bill. Look at what happened--right back down where we started. Now we 
are back down in the hole again in the deficit. If that isn't enough, 
they want to add even more--taking more money out with this new 
cockamamie scheme of theirs to take it away with a tax dividend.
  Mr. REID. I only point out one thing. In the Senator's last 
statement, he said it was one of the largest surpluses in the history 
of this country. It was the largest surplus in the history of this 
country.
  Mr. HARKIN. This is the largest surplus on record. Exactly.
  Mr. REID. I appreciate the Senator for allowing me to interrupt. I 
appreciate the Senator very much for allowing me to have a few words on 
the floor.
  Mr. HARKIN. I thank my friend for his keen insight into the economics 
of this country and this tax bill and how bad it really is.
  I close by saying again that we have to kind of look at the past and 
take some instruction from what happened. If you look at unemployment 
rates, when the 1981 tax bill was passed, the unemployment rate was 7.4 
percent. Eighteen months later, it went from 7.4 to 10.3 percent. When 
the 2001 tax bill was passed, unemployment was 4.5 percent. Now it is 6 
percent. Now we have this coming in. Now in 1993, the blue line shows 
what we did. The unemployment rate went down. When it passed in 1993, 
the unemployment rate was 6.8 percent, 18 months later it was down to 
5.4 percent and eventually it dropped to 4 percent. All of the red ink 
Republicans said how it would be so terrible for the economy. But, 
after the 1993 tax bill where the wealthy did see some real tax 
increases, the economy boomed. The deficits turned into surpluses. And 
we created a huge number of jobs. Again, we ought to be instructed by 
that and know the fact that the President's tax cut will not only 
plunge us further into deficit spending but it will not help increase 
employment. It will provide for one of the unfairest distributions of 
income in our country.
  For example, the 100-percent reduction in dividend rates provides, 
for those making more than $1 million a year, an $88,000 tax cut--an 
$88,000 tax cut. And the average Iowan, making between $20,000 and 
$30,000, would get $204 in 2003.
  But that is just the beginning. When you look at the outyears, it 
gets worse. By 2010, for the average Iowan, making $20,000 to $30,000, 
they might get maybe $25. For those making $40,000 to $50,000, they 
would get about $84. But if you made over $1 million a year, you would 
get $27,000 in tax benefits in the year 2010.
  I believe it was former OMB Director David Stockman back in 1981, who 
called the Reagan tax cut--the trickle-down tax cut--he called it a 
``riverboat gamble.'' And that is exactly what it was: a riverboat 
gamble. And we lost in terms of deficits and unemployment. We got it 
back on track in the 1990s, but here we are back again.
  Well, Mr. President, a ``riverboat gamble,'' ``trickle-down 
economics''--whatever you call it--I call it ``go-go economics'': Don't 
think about the future. Live for today. And, by all means, whatever may 
help you politically, whatever will help ensure your reelection, do 
that, and forget about what comes after.
  That is what this program is. Because it is designed, basically, to 
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their pockets to reelect this Republican President: the richest people 
in this country. And, of course, we just had campaign finance reform, 
so to speak. And what did it do? It doubled the amount of money that a 
person can give to a Federal candidate--doubled it.
  So I believe President Bush, when he was a candidate, if I am not 
mistaken, raised over $100 million--with those $1,000 contributions. 
Well, now that doubles and with a primary and general combined, it adds 
up to $4,000. So it just goes back to the same people. Plus they give 
more money in other ways. So I guess what this is: rewarding your 
friends. I understand that politically he rewards your friends. But in 
this case it is hurting our whole economy by him rewarding his few rich 
friends at the top.
  As my friend from Nevada said--and I share this with him--I have not 
spoken with one wealthy person in Iowa or anywhere who called me saying 
this is the best thing to do. Not one. In fact, I think most of them 
are even embarrassed by President Bush's proposal.
  So the best thing, I think, is for the President to recognize this 
was a bad piece of advice he got. I think one of the marks of 
leadership is to recognize when you are wrong and to rectify it. If you 
want to give the economy a shot in the arm right now, and give our bond 
markets a shot in the arm, I think the best thing the President can do 
is say he is scrapping this whole deal.
  Then what we need is a payroll tax holiday, paid through the general 
fund to put money in the hands of working people, many of whom do not 
even pay income taxes. But they are working, and they are raising 
families, and they are paying every last penny of payroll taxes. Many 
of these people did not get anything out of the 2001 tax plan. These 
are people who need some help. I will be talking more next week and in 
the days to come about my concept of a payroll tax holiday that would 
extend for a few months, and which could be adjusted after that 
depending upon what the economy is doing at that time.
  It would be a lot cheaper than what the President is proposing, No. 
1. No. 2, it would give an immediate stimulus to the economy. Third, it 
is fair because it puts the money down at the bottom where it is 
needed. As we know in Iowa, and as I am sure they know in Minnesota, 
you don't fertilize a tree from the top down. You have to put it in at 
the roots and let it grow. That is what a payroll tax holiday would do. 
That would give us our short-term stimulus.
  Then--exactly what Senator Reid was talking about--let's invest in 
rebuilding and modernizing schools. Drive the interstates someday and 
have your car beaten to death. That interstate highway system is now 
almost 50 years--a half a century--old. It needs to be rebuilt. These 
are things that need to be done in investment in the future of this 
country that puts people to work. That is the kind of job growth we 
need in this country. And all those jobs are not done by the 
Government. They will all be done by the private contractors.
  So I hope the President will recognize the bad advice he got, will 
say he is scrapping this plan, and then come down and work with all of 
us. There are bipartisan things we can do here--I am convinced of it--
bipartisan things we can do that will be both a short-term stimulus, 
that will not inure huge deficits in the outyears, and there are long-
term things we can do to put people back to work that will benefit this 
country.
  I call upon all my friends on the other side of the aisle who are not 
``red ink'' Republicans to join in this effort and to recognize the 
future of this country is not more red ink and more red ink and more 
red ink, but it is getting this country out of the hole, paying off the 
deficits, and getting back to a surplus once again.
  Mr. President, I look forward to working in a bipartisan fashion 
towards this end. But the lead has to come from the President. As long 
as he pushes that dividend tax scheme of his, well, then we are going 
to be kind of blocked from doing anything here. So I hope the President 
will scrap it, call us together, and let's work out a bipartisan plan 
to get this country moving again.
  I thank the Presiding Officer for his indulgence. I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas.

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