[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 148 (2002), Part 9]
[House]
[Pages 11815-11823]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]




    PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 5011, MILITARY CONSTRUCTION 
                        APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2003

  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I 
call up House Resolution 462 and ask for its immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 462

       Resolved, That at any time after the adoption of this 
     resolution the Speaker may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule 
     XVIII, declare the House resolved into the Committee of the 
     Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of 
     the bill (H.R. 5011) making appropriations for military 
     construction, family housing, and base realignment and 
     closure for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year 
     ending September 30, 2003, and for other purposes. The first 
     reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. All points of 
     order against consideration of the bill are waived. General 
     debate shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one 
     hour equally divided and controlled by the chairman and 
     ranking minority member of the Committee on Appropriations. 
     After general debate the bill shall be considered for 
     amendment under the five-minute rule. Points of order against 
     provisions of the bill for failure to comply with clause 2 of 
     rule XXI are waived. During consideration of the bill for 
     amendment, the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole may 
     accord priority in recognition on the basis of whether the 
     Member offering an amendment has caused it to be printed in 
     the portion of the Congressional Record designated for that 
     purpose in clause 8 of rule XVIII. Amendments so printed 
     shall be considered as read. At the conclusion of 
     consideration of the bill for amendment the Committee shall 
     rise and report the bill to the House with such amendments as 
     may have been adopted. The previous question shall be 
     considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to 
     final passage without intervening motion except one motion to 
     recommit with or without instructions.
       Sec. 2. House Resolution 421 is laid on the table.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Isakson). The gentlewoman from North 
Carolina (Mrs. Myrick) is recognized for 1 hour.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the 
customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. 
McGovern), and I believe this is the first time we have done a rule 
together, welcome, pending which I yield myself such time as I may 
consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is 
for the purpose of debate only.
  On Wednesday, the Committee on Rules met and granted an open rule for 
the Military Construction Appropriations Act for the fiscal year 2003. 
H.R. 5011 recognizes the dedication and commitment of our troops by 
providing for their most basic needs, improved military facilities, 
including housing and medical.
  Mr. Speaker, we must honor the most basic commitments we have made to 
the men and women of our Armed Forces. We must ensure reasonable 
quality of life to recruit and retain the best and the brightest to 
America's fighting forces. Most importantly, we must do all in our 
power to ensure a strong, able, dedicated American military, so that 
this Nation will be ever vigilant and ever prepared.
  H.R. 5011 provides nearly $1.2 billion for barracks and $151 million 
for hospital and medical facilities for troops and their families. It 
also provides $2.9 billion to operate and maintain existing housing 
units and $1.3 billion for new housing units.
  Military families also have a tremendous need for quality child care, 
especially single parents and families in which one or both parents may 
face lengthy deployments. To help meet this need, the bill provides $18 
million for child development centers.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a fair and an open rule for consideration of the 
fiscal year 2003 military construction appropriations bill. I urge my 
colleagues to support the rule and the underlying bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume, 
and I thank the gentlewoman from North Carolina (Mrs. Myrick) for 
yielding me the customary 30 minutes.
  Mr. Speaker, we have before us a fair and open rule for H.R. 5011, 
the military construction appropriations for fiscal year 2003. The rule 
provides for 1 hour of general debate, waives all points of order 
against consideration of the bill, allows for all germane amendments to 
be offered with priority accorded to those preprinted in the 
Congressional Record, and provides for one motion to recommit with or 
without instructions.
  This is a fair rule, and I urge my colleagues to vote for it.
  I would like to express my appreciation for the work of the gentleman 
from Ohio (Mr. Hobson), the chairman, and the gentleman from 
Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), the ranking member of the Subcommittee on 
Military Construction, along with the gentleman from Florida (Mr. 
Young), the Committee on Appropriations chairman, and the gentleman 
from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), the ranking member, for continuing the 
tradition of strong bipartisan support in the drafting of the military 
construction appropriations bill.
  This is a very difficult year for the Committee on Appropriations, 
and I commend the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and the gentleman 
from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver) for bringing to this House a very fine 
bill, given the limited amount of funds allocated for military 
construction needs.
  Mr. Speaker, the President's fiscal year 2003 request for military 
construction was $1.6 billion, or 15 percent below the fiscal year 2002 
enacted levels. However, included in the defense emergency response 
fund as part of the defense appropriations bill was approximately $594 
million worth of military construction projects. These projects were 
subsequently transferred over to the jurisdiction of the military 
construction request, resulting in the bill before us today. This 
combined request for military construction, therefore, now contains 
$542 million more than the President requested but still remains $522 
million below last year's enacted levels.
  Mr. Speaker, I believe it is incumbent upon all of us, the 
administration and Congress alike, to ensure that our forces have 
appropriate operational and training facilities, maintenance and 
production facilities, and research and development facilities. Yet 
each of these categories face significant reductions in funding in this 
bill.
  According to the Pentagon, 68 percent of the Department's facilities 
have serious deficiencies that might impede mission readiness or they 
are so deteriorated that they cannot support mission requirements. The 
current reductions in funding for construction in these facility 
categories mean that the rates at which buildings are renovated or 
replaced has just increased from 83 years to 150 years.
  Mr. Speaker, I keep hearing that we are engaged in a long-term 
struggle against a global enemy. So I find it difficult to believe that 
while we can find the funds to increase the defense budget by $48 
billion, we cannot find the funds to bring our operational facilities 
up to standard.
  Mr. Speaker, I firmly believe that our uniformed men and women and

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their families deserve decent housing and accommodations, both here at 
home and abroad. We need to ensure that all personnel in all branches 
of service have a quality place to live and work, both at home and 
abroad; and I commend the committee for continuing to provide increased 
funding for dormitories in overseas construction; but again, through no 
fault of the committee, the funding provided does not come near to 
meeting the need. According to the Department of Defense, 180,000 of 
the 300,000 units of military housing are substandard. Mr. Speaker, 
this is a national scandal.
  We also need to ensure that security is improved around all our 
military bases, installations and other sites both in the United 
States, its territories and abroad. I know that this is a matter of 
deep concern for both the chairman and the ranking member. In last 
year's emergency supplemental in response to September 11 and in this 
bill, we have made progress in this area; but again, much more needs to 
be done and done quickly.
  This is not the first time that this committee has lamented the 
shortfalls in funding for basic military construction priorities, but 
we now live in a changed world, Mr. Speaker. Poor facility conditions 
are not only unsafe, they hamper readiness and decrease troop 
retention. The events of September 11 require both the administration 
and the Congress to provide significantly greater funds for these 
purposes.
  Clearly, the President's request for fiscal year 2003 was inadequate. 
Clearly, the committee has done as fine a job as anyone could in 
bringing forward a bill worthy of bipartisan support; but clearly, this 
Congress, in a bipartisan manner, must bring this urgent matter to the 
attention of the White House so that the next budget does not continue 
to ignore these significant national security needs. I know I speak for 
all my colleagues when I pledge that I will be happy to work with the 
chairman and the ranking member on any such initiative.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of this rule and this bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield as much time as he 
may consume to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the 
distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules.
  Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend for yielding me the time, 
and I would like to first congratulate her on her very strong 
commitment to our Nation's military and also for her ascension to the 
chairmanship of the very important Republican Study Committee, which is 
an entity within the Republican Conference that spends a great deal of 
time focused on the national security of the United States of America, 
and I believe she will provide stellar leadership there.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a very important measure. I had a lengthy 
conversation this morning with the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. 
Murtha), the ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Defense, 
Committee on Appropriations; and we were talking about our Nation's 
military forces, and we were reminded of the fact that we have an all-
volunteer Army, all-volunteer military. And in light of that, it is 
very important for the United States Congress to provide the resources 
that will ensure that we attract the most capable individuals to serve 
in the military. It seems to me that one of the most important things 
for us to do is to make sure that in the area of military construction 
that we do just that.
  I would like to join in congratulating my good friends, the gentleman 
from Florida (Mr. Young), the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), and 
the leadership of this subcommittee, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. 
Hobson) and the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), for their 
strong leadership and dedication to this shared goal.
  I appreciate the gentleman from Massachusetts' (Mr. McGovern) comment 
about the fact that we continue to pursue this in a bipartisan way, and 
it is good to see this bipartisan sense here in this institution as we 
look at this important issue.
  The numbers were outlined very well by our colleague from North 
Carolina. One issue that was not mentioned was the fact that there are 
resources in here to deal specifically with counterterrorism, and I saw 
that there is roughly $582 million to deal specifically with that 
question, to ensure that as we proceed with military construction, that 
the safety and security of the men and women in uniform, as well as 
those families of theirs, are addressed.
  So I believe that we have got a good measure here that is going to be 
brought forth under an open amendment process that will allow for the 
consideration of different ideas; but the fact that we have come 
together with strong agreement from both Democrats and Republicans is I 
think a great testimony to the success of the work of the Committee on 
Appropriations.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from 
Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), who is the ranking Democrat on the 
Subcommittee on Military Construction of the Committee on 
Appropriations.
  Mr. OLVER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Massachusetts for 
yielding me time.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise this afternoon to support this open rule for the 
consideration of the military construction appropriations bill. Because 
of the leadership of the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson), the chairman 
of this subcommittee, the underlying bill is a good bill developed in a 
bipartisan way, as he has always done in the years that he and I have 
served together in the positions of Chair and ranking member, 
respectively, of the committee; and I urge the Members to support this 
rule.

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  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to my friend and 
neighbor, the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Hayes).
  Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this 
time.
  Mr. Speaker, today I rise in support of the rule, but first let me 
pay particular tribute to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and the 
gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), chairman and ranking member, 
who have a keen awareness of the need for the best of military housing 
and also an aggressive posture towards pursuing and solving the 
problems that we have faced in the past, and I appreciate their support 
for that.
  I rise in strong support of the rule that will allow for 
consideration of H.R. 5011, the Military Construction Appropriations 
bill for 2003. This bill provides over $10 billion for military 
construction projects. Providing adequate housing and facilities for 
our men and women in uniform enables them to better do their job. 
Having safe and secure housing allows servicemen and women to know that 
their families are out of harm's way while they are deployed or serving 
our country overseas. This assurance is a key component of our Nation's 
military readiness, and today we take steps to further improve and also 
to modernize the housing and facilities for our military families.
  Mr. Speaker, I would like to highlight a significant component of the 
MILCON Appropriations bill which will help all soldiers at Fort Bragg, 
North Carolina. Since I came to Congress, I have been working to secure 
funds for the Soldier Support Center at Fort Bragg. This center, to be 
named in honor of General Hugh Shelton, currently recovering from a 
spinal cord injury, will provide a one-stop in-and-out-processing 
facility for soldiers at Fort Bragg. Today we take the first step in 
providing the first half of the funding for this important resource for 
the epicenter of the universe, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
  Mr. Speaker, in addition to providing funds for MILCON, I would also 
like to take this opportunity to highlight some of the innovative 
projects to leverage private capital that individual services are 
currently pursuing. At Fort Bragg in my district in North Carolina, the 
Army is getting under way with a project called Residential

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Community Initiative, or RCI. Through RCI, the Army has decided upon a 
private contractor to build several thousand homes on post and to 
renovate many, many others. This contractor was awarded a 50-year, 
multi-million dollar contract and will be responsible for the homes for 
the next 50 years. I am hopeful that this will create both improved 
housing for our soldiers and their families but also generate many 
economic opportunities for the greater Fayetteville community. This 
innovative way to use private capital to fix some of our most serious 
family housing problems will provide the best housing for our soldier, 
the best value for the taxpayer, and maximum benefit for our community.
  The tragic events of September 11, 2001, have thrust our Nation's 
military into the spotlight and called to duty the brave men and women 
of the U.S. Armed Forces. Once again, U.S. citizens are rallying behind 
them in strong support of the harrowing mission that they have been 
called upon to perform. Our U.S. Congress has the duty and the 
opportunity to pass the Military Construction Appropriations bill for 
2003. Please join me in supporting this rule that enables us to provide 
the necessary facilities and security for these brave men and women who 
are protecting us and our country and our freedom. We are ever 
grateful.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Maryland (Mr. Cardin).
  Mr. CARDIN. Mr. Speaker, let me thank the gentleman from 
Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern) for yielding me this time, and I want to 
urge my colleagues to support the rule and the underlying bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I take this time to congratulate the gentleman from 
Massachusetts (Mr. Olver) and the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) on a 
very fine Military Construction bill. I particularly want to thank the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) for his help in regards to a facility 
at the Naval Academy, that he has been very helpful in the new ethics 
center that will be constructed at the United States Naval Academy.
  Eight years ago a private fund-raising group began working with the 
Naval Academy and the Academy's Foundation to build a new ethics center 
and Jewish Chapel in Annapolis. While the Jewish Chapel facility will 
be entirely funded and endowed privately, the subcommittee's action 
reflects the fact that a significant portion of this new center will be 
used for an ethics center and a general Academy classroom, office, and 
common space.
  Mr. Speaker, this will be a tremendous addition to the Naval Academy 
in Annapolis. It would not have been possible without the help of the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson). I really want to take this time to 
thank him for his efforts on this behalf.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, may I inquire how much time we have 
remaining on this side, please?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Isakson). The gentlewoman from North 
Carolina has 21\1/2\ minutes, and the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. 
McGovern) has 23 minutes.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the 
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young), the distinguished chairman of the 
Committee on Appropriations.
  Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from North 
Carolina (Mrs. Myrick) for yielding me this time on this very important 
rule on this very important bill. As she has pointed out, this is an 
open rule; and I would say to my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, that since I 
became chairman of this committee, I have never, ever asked for 
anything other than an open rule so that Members would have an 
opportunity to be part of the appropriations process. So this is an 
open rule as we always ask for on all bills.
  I had asked the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis), I wanted to 
make a few comments not only on the rule but on the bill, the defense 
bill that we moved earlier today under the gentleman from California 
(Mr. Lewis) and the bill we moved this afternoon under the gentleman 
from Ohio (Mr. Hobson), chairman, and the gentleman from Massachusetts 
(Mr. Olver), ranking minority member, both very good bills. We had made 
a commitment to move the defense bill first. We have now done that. We 
now will be moving the Military Construction bill.
  We are keeping our commitment on schedule, and so I wanted to take 
just a few minutes, besides mentioning the open rule, to mention the 
fact that this bill goes directly to the quality of life for America's 
men and women who serve in uniform. A lot of the money in this bill 
goes for housing for those who serve in the military.
  I would suggest to my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, that if they ever have 
an extra couple of hours, they might want to visit some military bases 
and look firsthand at some of the housing and where our troops are 
quartered; and I think they would come back here demanding even more 
money than this bill provides to provide decent housing for the 
military in those cases where the housing really is not all that good.
  I think if one of us took our kids to a college or a university and 
we saw housing like some of our military live in, we would put them 
back in the car and take them back home. We would not let them live 
like we are requiring some of our military to live. So this bill goes a 
long way towards solving that problem.
  But I must point out that there is a much longer way to go. There is 
still a lot of work that needs to be done.
  I want to compliment again the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) for 
the good work in producing this bill in a bipartisan fashion, along 
with the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver). They have done a 
really good job. I do not think there is any controversy to this bill 
whatsoever, and it should move quickly.
  I just want to point out also that, on the defense bill that I did 
not speak on earlier today, trying to save time, that the staff and the 
chairman and the ranking member and the members of that subcommittee 
worked long, hard hours, days, nights. Oftentimes we hear that about 
the staff. But in the case of the chairman, the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Lewis), he was here on weekends, late at night; and he 
was here every step of the way. That is why the bill he produced, along 
with the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha), was such a good 
bill. It was really well-thought-out, and it does a good job for our 
Nation's defense.
  So, Mr. Speaker, I am proud to be supportive of this rule; and I am 
very proud to be supportive of this good bill that adds considerably to 
the quality of life for our men and women who serve in our uniform.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time. She 
has done an outstanding job on this good rule; and she has an 
interesting closing comment, I think, which I support enthusiastically 
when she makes it.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from 
Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).
  Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman's courtesy in 
yielding me this time to speak on this bill.
  I, too, would like to express my appreciation to the chairman, the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson), the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. 
Olver), and to our good friend, the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Farr), who have been focusing on one aspect of the military 
construction budget which deals with the problem of unexploded 
ordnance, the bombs and shells and military toxins, that have been left 
over and littered across the landscape, really, of these 206 facilities 
across the country.
  The subcommittee, for the first time as near as I can tell in 
history, focused on this issue. They brought people together from the 
various services, looked at the context of the problem, talked to the 
experts; and, for the first time, we are having an inventory of this 
problem. We are at a time when there are a number of bases around the 
country, it is no secret, that probably should be closed. There are a 
lot of reasons why we are not going ahead with that process.
  One of the reasons, candidly, is that people are concerned about what 
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get stuck with when they are over. I think of what has happened with 
Fort Ord. Despite hundreds of millions of dollars and 11 years of work, 
we have not yet been able to quite put all those pieces together and 
finish the job.
  What this subcommittee has done here today is the culmination of work 
that is going to make a difference not just cleaning up these sites, 
long overdue, it is going to help reorder the process within the 
Department of Defense so that, at a time when we are giving 
unprecedented sums of money to the Department of Defense, we will be 
able to take a little bit of it to be able to make sure that we are not 
leaving hazards for communities to deal with for years to come.
  Mr. Speaker, one of the more important things is that not only are we 
going to be focusing the attention within the Department of Defense, 
but the technology that will be developed as we learn to do a better 
job cleaning up after ourselves is going to make a difference for the 
other over 2,000 sites across the country, in every State, in most of 
the congressional districts, that are represented here in this body. We 
are going to learn to do a better job.
  Last but not least, it is going to have international implications. 
Because, sadly, Mr. Speaker, every single day we have children around 
the world who are killed from unexploded ordnance, the legacy of what 
has happened in Africa, in the Balkans, and in Southeast Asia. With the 
help of the subcommittee in focusing on doing a better job, we are 
going to learn how to clean up that toxic legacy. It is going to make a 
difference not just with the men and women we have on our military 
bases, not just for the communities that are going to inherit lands 
that they can put in more productive uses, but I think it will make a 
difference for the quality of life for millions of people around the 
world.
  My only concern is that it looks like there is a little less money 
than we had last year. At the rate we are going, it is going to take us 
in the neighborhood of 100 years or more to clean up after ourselves. I 
am hopeful in the course of the process, as we go through the 
conferencing, there may be a possibility of putting the money behind it 
that is necessary.
  It is not going to get any cheaper to clean up after ourselves. The 
liability and the problems are only going to grow over time. And, 
ironically, the more money we spend to do it right, it will drive down 
the unit cost, it is going to return the land to productive uses, and 
it will make the ultimate cleanup cheaper.
  I appreciate deeply what the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and the 
gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver) have done and the committee 
has done, as well as the work of the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Farr). I am hopeful this body will get behind it to give the rest of 
the push that is needed to make sure we do the job right on the part of 
our military service and people around the world.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from 
Florida (Mr. Dan Miller).
  Mr. DAN MILLER of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule 
and for the basic bill behind it, the military construction bill.
  I happen to serve on the Subcommittee on Military Construction, and 
it is a pleasure to serve with the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson), 
chairing that committee for the past 4 years, and the gentleman from 
Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), also. It is a bipartisan committee and a 
bipartisan bill.
  My congressional district in Florida, beautiful area in southwest 
Florida, does not have any military facilities and does not really have 
any major military contractors, so I approach this bill not from my 
particular district but what is right for this country and right for 
our soldiers and what will keep the military strong and prepared, as it 
was for the events that developed after September 11.
  I know that Chairman Hobson in the past 4 years has been working hard 
to improve the quality of life. The key to being prepared, as we needed 
to be starting in September of last year, is to have a strong military 
but also a military that is committed and prepared to go into action at 
any time; and key to that is the quality of life. That is something 
that we have been working on now for a number of years.
  In my congressional district, we have lots of retired military 
people, a lot of veterans. A lot of them are World War II generation, 
or the Korean War generation, even World War I generation. But it is a 
different military today with the volunteer military. People do not 
live in the barracks with a hundred other soldiers. Nowadays, we need 
to have facilities for people to volunteer to be in the military and to 
be willing to stay and to serve, whether it is at Fort Bragg in North 
Carolina or in Naples or in Korea, or wherever we have our soldiers 
stationed around the world.
  Quality of life is really critical in this job. As a businessman, 
before I came to the Congress, one of the things I learned is you need 
to keep your employees happy. You want to avoid a turnover in your 
employees. You want to have employees stay and not move on because of 
the cost of training people. If you can keep an employee for a number 
of years and keep that employee happy and contented, they will do a 
good job. And that is exactly what we need to do in the military, is to 
attract the good people and to provide an environment so that they feel 
proud and they are satisfied in their job.

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  So in the past few years, we have had success. Several years ago I 
went with the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) to Naples. We saw where 
10,000 sailors are based in Naples, Italy, and the Sixth Fleet works 
out of there.
  The facilities were in a volcano. We had to move our facilities to 
take our sailors out of this area. The facilities were almost World War 
II era. The fact is, they were not very good accommodations. It was 
cramped quarters. When sailors came ashore, they had to go back to the 
ship at night.
  Over the past few years, we have been able to create the basic 
enlisted man's quarters. So instead of the sailors coming ashore and 
having to go to the ship at night and sleep in bunks, they were able to 
stay overnight in facilities with two people to a room.
  We spent a lot of money on child development centers. We have them 
throughout the country at military facilities because we want to allow 
the families to be able to stay there with their children.
  In Sicily, I saw facilities where instead of a barracks with 50 
people in it, we had semi-private rooms like college dormitories. When 
I was in college, we had bathrooms down the hallway, but it is a 
different world today.
  We have to provide facilities that will allow the military to be 
happy and their families satisfied in accommodations that are safe. 
Their children can go to a day care program, elementary and middle and 
secondary schools. That is what this bill is about, is providing the 
facilities for the quality of life.
  It is also things like runways, the command and control centers. We 
do not see them because they are top secret, but we need to have places 
where our admirals and generals can control things that are going on in 
Afghanistan. I commend the chairman for putting together a very good 
bipartisan bill. I hope Members will support the bill.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from New 
Jersey (Mr. Freylinghuysen).
  Mr. FREYLINGHUYSEN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of 
this rule and the 2003 MILCON appropriations bill. I thank the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and the ranking member and their staff 
for their hard work. We know the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) to be 
a driven man on this issue. And working with the ranking member, one 
thing we do know on the Committee on Appropriations is that both of 
those gentlemen, their staff and members of that subcommittee, have 
personally flown around this world and Nation visiting these Naval, Air 
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the people who put their lives on the line, of whom we are most 
appreciative.
  They know, as all Members of Congress should know, that nearly 70 
percent of the young people in the military today are in uniform or 
married, and their needs are great. This committee and the Chair and 
ranking member have been true advocates for decent and affordable 
housing for those in the military who cannot often afford decent 
housing. They have been in the forefront of supporting them.
  They have also been in the forefront of promoting the expansion of 
day care centers so that those who are in the military, the men and 
women, can be on the front lines and make sure that their children are 
provided for in a very safe and clean environment with professionals 
looking after their youngsters.
  In addition, this is a committee that has worked hard to consolidate 
military operations around the world here domestically, as well as in 
foreign installations. Through that, they have lowered the maintenance 
and operating costs of military bases and saved the taxpayers an 
incredible amount of money.
  Mr. Speaker, part of the job of this subcommittee, and while I do not 
serve on it, is their recognition that we need in this day and age 
after September to recognize the absolute safety and security of our 
military personnel, and in many cases they are living in housing 
arrangements in precarious situations, and this committee has worked 
very hard to address that need.
  I would also like to thank the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and 
the ranking member for including funding in this and previous bills to 
complete the construction of the high-energy propellant facility at 
Picatinny Arsenal in my congressional district in New Jersey. This 
facility is needed to support the development of future weapons 
systems, include propellants, propellant charges and igniters, as well 
as support the development of new manufacturing technologies in a 
timely and cost-effective manner.
  It is through this committee that this armament center known as 
Picatinny Arsenal, which provides 90 percent of the Army's lethality, 
has been able to put together a unified software engineering center 
bringing all of these talented men and women under one roof as well as 
upgrade something as basic as the electrical system of the base which 
had not been updated since World War II.
  This committee's mission is important. It looks after the needs of 
our soldiers. This rule and this bill need our full support.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Washington (Mr. Dicks).
  Mr. DICKS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this 
time.
  Mr. Speaker, I, too, congratulate the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. 
Hobson) and the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver), the ranking 
member, for the outstanding job they have done in crafting this bill.
  I have enjoyed serving on the Subcommittee on Military Construction 
and the Subcommittee on Defense; and I feel very proud of the fact that 
today these two bills are going to pass the House overwhelmingly, and 
it is because of the good work of not only these two subcommittees, but 
the good work of the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis) and the 
gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) and the staff. We have 
outstanding staff on the Committee on Appropriations, particularly on 
military construction and defense. They should be commended for their 
good work. They work very effectively with the Members.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to echo what has been said here. This is a bill 
that directly affects quality of life. In my area in the State of 
Washington, we have Fort Lewis where Army transformation is occurring. 
In this bill, there is a new barracks facility replaced at Fort Lewis. 
Also a new barracks facility at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, and 
many other items of great importance.
  Over the years, I have always believed if we keep these bases modern 
and updated and give the sailors and the civilian workers a quality 
place to work, it will certainly help us with retention of both our 
military personnel and our good civilian workers.
  I wanted to rise and strongly urge passage of the rule and passage of 
this bill. This is a good bill which has been worked out on a purely 
bipartisan basis. I too commend the chairman and the ranking member for 
their diligence in going all over the world to look at these facilities 
and to be able to give the members of the committee their best advice 
on what needs to be done at these facilities.
  We have to remember, we still have kids in Korea. I have been there 
many times. We have worked hard to fix those facilities; but there is 
still work to be done at these bases around the world, and we need to 
continue to do it.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Farr).
  Mr. FARR of California. Mr. Speaker, I rise as a member of this 
committee to speak in favor of the rule. But in doing so, I think it is 
necessary to point out for the record that the leadership of this 
committee, it is exceptional. It is truly bipartisan. It is led by the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) and the ranking member, the gentleman 
from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver). The committee is not just a numbers 
committee. This committee is changing the definition of what is often 
said about men and women in uniform about their quality of life.
  We have dumped the old military style of designing and deciding what 
should be the appropriate size for a military living room or a military 
kitchen. We have turned this process into what all other communities 
do, and that is building to community standards.
  The housing that we are building for the military now could win 
architectural awards, and the people who live in them are absolutely 
delighted that they can live in some of the prettiest homes in America, 
which are really built for community standards, where there is child 
care, where they can walk to work, if possible, and all of the other 
concepts that cities around this Nation are looking towards. We are 
letting the military lead the way, and it is being done by the 
leadership of this committee.
  I stand here today in support of the rule and in support of the bill, 
but also in support of the attitude or the direction which this 
committee is taking to make sure that the quality of life for the 
military is an exemplary life for how all Americans can live, and that 
we do not in the future drive by military housing and military bases 
and say, oh, look at the way government builds its stuff. This is the 
kind of building and architecture that we are going to be proud of, and 
they are going to be proud to live in it. And if the welfare and morale 
of the men and women who are fighting for our country is upheld, I 
think their soldiering will be a lot better.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, all morning we have been extolling our patriotic values; 
but as our uniformed men and women know so well, there is a significant 
gap between our rhetoric and our actions. This House can no longer 
ignore the long-standing needs to repair, renovate, replace and build 
the operational facilities and housing needs necessary for a modern 
military charged with protecting the United States from the scourge of 
global terrorism.
  I urge my colleagues to support this rule and support H.R. 5011, and 
I call upon the administration to provide sufficient funding in the 
future to address these significant national security priorities.
  As I said in the beginning, I want to commend all those involved in 
coming up with the bill. My only regret is the necessary funding that I 
think our uniformed men and women deserve, and what the American people 
expect us to provide to them, is not here; and hopefully we can work on 
that in the coming budget cycle.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 7 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. 
Stenholm).

[[Page 11820]]

  Mr. STENHOLM. Mr. Speaker, I take this time for the purpose of 
inquiring of the gentlewoman if she might explain the parliamentary 
procedure, this mystery motion, that the gentlewoman is about to offer 
as an addition to the rule that we are now talking about, military 
construction, which we are all in favor of. But I keep hearing rumors 
that we might suddenly be faced with a parliamentary situation where we 
are talking about increasing the debt ceiling. I yield to the 
gentlewoman for the purpose of explaining thoroughly to the body since 
there might not be any time to debate this.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. STENHOLM. I yield to the gentlewoman from North Carolina.
  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, this is Senate 2578 to amend title 31 of 
the United States Code, and this is at the end of the resolution 
without an intervention of any point of order we would consider this; 
and this title 31 of the United States Code is to increase the public 
debt limit, and it would be considered as a bill as read for amendment. 
The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill to 
final passage without intervening motion except for 1 hour of debate on 
the bill equally divided and controlled by the chairman and the ranking 
minority member of the Committee on Ways and Means, and one motion to 
commit, and this has been shared with the minority.

                              {time}  1700

  Mr. STENHOLM. If I understood, this would be another one of the rules 
that provides for no debate and no discussion, no amendments. Debate 
for 1 hour, but no amendments.
  Mrs. MYRICK. No, it provides for 1 hour of debate equally divided and 
controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee 
on Ways and Means.
  Mr. STENHOLM. I misspoke. But if Members on this side would have an 
amendment of which we believe would be a better way to proceed 
regarding increasing the debt limit, which many of us are prepared to 
give the President what he has asked for as a clean debt ceiling 
increase, but we have a little different idea about how that ought to 
be done. But I understand the gentlewoman's rule that will be coming 
will again preclude Members on the minority side from having an 
opportunity to amend; is that correct?
  Mrs. MYRICK. This is providing a straight up and down vote.
  Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. STENHOLM. I yield to the gentleman from California.
  Mr. DREIER. I thank my friend for yielding. I would just like to 
clarify this. Over the last several weeks, we have had many of my 
friends on the other side of the aisle join with us in saying it is 
very important for us to as quickly as possible take action to increase 
the debt ceiling. The procedure which has just been outlined by my 
friend from Charlotte would in fact allow for the full hour of 
consideration and the Members of the minority will have an opportunity 
to offer a motion to recommit.
  Mr. STENHOLM. But no amendment.
  Mr. DREIER. No, there would not be an amendment. This would be a 
standard procedure as would have come forth from the Committee on Ways 
and Means. So I think it is a very appropriate one. And I think that we 
should try and move just as expeditiously as possible on this.
  Mr. STENHOLM. Looking at the rule, it says that there will be 1 hour 
of debate and one motion to commit. Commit to what?
  Mrs. MYRICK. It is to commit it back to committee.
  Mr. STENHOLM. So it is not a motion to recommit?
  Mrs. MYRICK. It is to commit it back to the Senate, because the House 
would be acting on the Senate bill.
  Mr. STENHOLM. Then just about the time I think that I have seen every 
most unusual political circumstance on this floor, we get another one 
that is real interesting in this regard. But if I understand the 
gentleman from California correctly, this provides for a clean increase 
of $450 billion in the debt ceiling, so all who vote for this are 
voting to borrow an additional $450 billion clean. It is not going to 
be added to the military construction. It is a simple take-up of the 
Senate bill; and if 218 Members vote to borrow that money, it is clean.
  Mr. DREIER. If the gentleman will yield, I think that my friend is 
among those who has advocated an increase in the debt ceiling. I may be 
wrong on that.
  Mr. STENHOLM. No, the gentleman is correct; but not in the manner in 
which the gentleman is proposing.
  Mr. DREIER. Let me say, if the gentleman would continue to yield, 
that this is the second manner in which we have proposed this. We have 
already passed language out of here that would allow for conferees in 
the supplemental appropriations bill to consider increasing the debt 
ceiling, and now we have come up with a second procedure. People have 
said that they want to have this done just as quickly as possible. I do 
not know if it would be possible for us to put into place a procedure 
that would satisfy my friend, but we share the same goal.
  Mr. STENHOLM. Reclaiming my time, I think you are getting very close 
to satisfying me.
  Mr. DREIER. Great. That is reassuring.
  Mr. STENHOLM. But I would say to the gentleman that I would feel a 
whole lot better about the procedure if you allowed the Moore-Spratt 
bill as a substitute amendment so that we might have a true expression; 
and then after we have had that true expression, then I certainly would 
intend to join with the majority in seeing that we do not bring our 
country to the edge of default. My problem is with the procedure, but 
it sounds to me like you are getting there.
  Mr. DREIER. If my friend will yield further, I just want to express 
my appreciation for his understanding of our desire to find a procedure 
around which we can just as quickly as possible do something that we 
both want to do and that is ensure that we do not see a default and go 
ahead and have us pay our bills.
  Mr. STENHOLM. With all due respect, I understand why you are doing 
what you are doing. I continue to be extremely disappointed in the lack 
of consideration for minority views in this body. The last time I got 
into this exchange, I was reminded that at one time I was in the 
majority. And I would remind my friends on that side when we were in 
the majority I often sided with you on fairness. This again is not a 
fair rule, but I understand the rule of majority; and I appreciate the 
time and clarification because, as I understand it, we were about to 
vote on this with no debate, no discussion, there was going to be a lot 
of confusion regarding this; but now I think more people will have a 
little better understanding of the confusion.
  Mr. DREIER. I appreciate my friend's kind words.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  I would urge that Members who are trying to follow what is going on 
right here on the floor right now to vote ``no'' on the previous 
question on the amendment and resolution so that we have an opportunity 
to be able to amend the rule and be able to bring up the Spratt-Moore-
Stenholm alternative on the debt limit so we could actually have a 
debate and we can do this right.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.


                    Amendment Offered by Mrs. Myrick

  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Amendment offered by Mrs. Myrick:
       At the end of the resolution add the following:
       Sec. 3. That upon the adoption of this resolution it shall 
     be in order without intervention of any point of order to 
     consider in the House the bill (S. 2578) to amend title 31 of 
     the United States Code to increase the public debt limit. The 
     bill shall be considered as read for amendment. The previous 
     question shall be considered as ordered on the bill to final 
     passage without intervening motion except: (1) one hour of 
     debate on the bill equally divided and controlled by the 
     chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Ways 
     and Means; and (2) one motion to commit.


[[Page 11821]]


  Mrs. MYRICK. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  In conclusion, this is a good rule and it is a very good bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the 
previous question on the amendment and on the resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Isakson). The question is on ordering 
the previous question.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a 
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not 
present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  There will be 5-minute votes on the amendment and on the resolution 
after this vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 221, 
nays 210, not voting 3, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 274]

                               YEAS--221

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilirakis
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boozman
     Brady (TX)
     Brown (SC)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Coble
     Collins
     Combest
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Crane
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Culberson
     Cunningham
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Davis, Tom
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Graves
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Grucci
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hart
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Issa
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Keller
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MN)
     Kerns
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McKeon
     Mica
     Miller, Dan
     Miller, Gary
     Miller, Jeff
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Osborne
     Ose
     Otter
     Oxley
     Paul
     Pence
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Saxton
     Schaffer
     Schrock
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simmons
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sullivan
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Toomey
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins (OK)
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--210

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson (IN)
     Carson (OK)
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank
     Frost
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green (TX)
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E. B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Langevin
     Lantos
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Luther
     Lynch
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Mascara
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Mink
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Shows
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watson (CA)
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--3

     Engel
     Roukema
     Traficant

                              {time}  1732

  Mr. HONDA, Ms. BROWN of Florida, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, and 
Mr. OBERSTAR changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  Mr. Akin changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the previous question was ordered.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                         parliamentary inquiry

  Mr. McGOVERN. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Isakson). The gentleman will state it.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, are Members to understand that voting 
``yes'' on this amendment is a vote to bring up the $450 billion debt 
limit increase passed by the Senate, but under a rule that does not 
allow for a House Democratic alternative or any amendments and that 
does not allow the House to debate the return to fiscal responsibility?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will not interpret the amendment. 
The interpretation of the amendment is for each and every Member of 
this body to decide.
  The question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from 
North Carolina (Mrs. Myrick).
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 219, 
noes 211, not voting 4, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 275]

                               AYES--219

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilirakis
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boozman
     Brady (TX)
     Brown (SC)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Coble
     Collins
     Combest
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Crane
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Culberson
     Cunningham
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Davis, Tom
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Graves
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Grucci
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hart
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Isakson

[[Page 11822]]


     Issa
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Keller
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MN)
     Kerns
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McKeon
     Mica
     Miller, Dan
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Osborne
     Ose
     Otter
     Oxley
     Paul
     Pence
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Saxton
     Schaffer
     Schrock
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simmons
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sullivan
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Toomey
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins (OK)
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--211

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson (IN)
     Carson (OK)
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank
     Frost
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green (TX)
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E. B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Langevin
     Lantos
     Larsen (WA)
     Larson (CT)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Luther
     Lynch
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Mascara
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Miller, Jeff
     Mink
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Shows
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watson (CA)
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--4

     Engel
     Fossella
     Roukema
     Traficant

                              {time}  1743

  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution, as 
amended.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. McGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 269, 
nays 160, not voting 5, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 276]

                               YEAS--269

     Aderholt
     Akin
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bereuter
     Berkley
     Biggert
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boozman
     Brady (TX)
     Brown (SC)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capito
     Capps
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Clement
     Coble
     Collins
     Combest
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Crane
     Crenshaw
     Cubin
     Culberson
     Cummings
     Cunningham
     Davis (CA)
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Davis, Tom
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dicks
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Etheridge
     Everett
     Ferguson
     Flake
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Graves
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Grucci
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hansen
     Hart
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Issa
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Keller
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MN)
     Kerns
     Kilpatrick
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kirk
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Larson (CT)
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Lucas (KY)
     Lucas (OK)
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Manzullo
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McKeon
     McKinney
     Mica
     Miller, Dan
     Miller, Gary
     Miller, Jeff
     Mollohan
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Ortiz
     Osborne
     Ose
     Otter
     Oxley
     Pastor
     Paul
     Pelosi
     Pence
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Platts
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Reyes
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rodriguez
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Sabo
     Sandlin
     Saxton
     Schaffer
     Schiff
     Schrock
     Scott
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simmons
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Snyder
     Souder
     Spratt
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Sullivan
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Tancredo
     Tanner
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Toomey
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins (OK)
     Watts (OK)
     Weiner
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson (NM)
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Wynn
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--160

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Berry
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capuano
     Carson (IN)
     Carson (OK)
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Farr
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Green (TX)
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Harman
     Hill
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley
     Inslee
     Israel
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kildee
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Langevin
     Larsen (WA)
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Luther
     Lynch
     Markey
     Mascara
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Mink
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Napolitano
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Payne
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Ross
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Shows
     Skelton
     Smith (WA)
     Solis
     Stark
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)

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     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Velazquez
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watson (CA)
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wexler
     Woolsey
     Wu

                             NOT VOTING--5

     Baca
     Engel
     Fattah
     Roukema
     Traficant

                              {time}  1756

  Messrs. ISRAEL, LUTHER and MENENDEZ and Ms. SANCHEZ changed their 
vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  Mr. PASTOR changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the resolution, as amended, was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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