[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 145 (1999), Part 9]
[House]
[Pages 12506-12517]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]



     PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 1905, LEGISLATIVE BRANCH 
                       APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2000.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. 
Pryce) is recognized for 1 hour.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I 
yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hall), 
pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During 
consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose 
of debate only.
  Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 190 is a structured rule that governs 
the consideration of H.R. 1905, the Legislative Branch appropriations 
bill for Fiscal Year 2000. This type of rule has become customary for 
legislative branch spending bills due to the controversy that often 
surrounds them. Last month, when the Committee on Rules held a hearing 
on this bill, we heard from very few Members who took issue with the 
provisions in the bill, but there are some unrelated issues that may 
disrupt today's debate. Therefore, a structured rule that ensures an 
orderly yet adequate debate is wholly appropriate and fair.
  Under the rule, 1 hour of general debate will be equally divided 
between the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on 
Appropriations. The rule waives a limited number of points of order 
against consideration of the bill to address some minor issues related 
to the compensation of specific employees which fall under the 
Congressional Budget Act. The rule also waives points of order against 
some provisions of the bill for failure to comply with clause 2 of rule 
XXI which prohibits unauthorized or legislative provisions in a general 
appropriations bill.
  I would like to take this opportunity to commend the gentleman from 
North Carolina (Mr. Taylor) and the Subcommittee on Legislative for 
their hard work to bring this legislation to the floor in a timely 
manner. As a testament to their good work product, only seven 
amendments were filed with the Committee on Rules. Of the seven, two 
were very similar. Both would allow Members who do not use their entire 
budget allowance to return any unused portion to the Treasury. The 
savings would then be devoted to deficit or debt reduction. This 
concept, which has earned broad support in the past, encourages Members 
of Congress to lead by example and be frugal in the use of taxpayers' 
dollars. The Committee on Rules encouraged the cosponsors of these 
amendments to combine their efforts and made in order a Camp-Roemer-
Upton amendment which is printed in the Committee on Rules report. That 
amendment will be debatable for 20 minutes, equally divided between a 
proponent and an opponent and shall not be subject to amendment. 
Further, the rule waives points of order against the amendment for 
failure to comply with clause 2 of rule XXI.
  Four other amendments were filed with the Committee on Rules which 
addressed juvenile crime and gun laws. Obviously these issues are not 
even remotely related to funding for the Legislative Branch. Therefore, 
the amendments which are not germane to the bill or appropriate in the 
context of this debate were not made in order under the rule, and, as 
my colleagues are well aware, we will have the opportunity to address 
Youth Violence issues next week. Under the rule, the minority will have 
an additional opportunity to make changes to the bill through the 
customary motion to recommit, with or without instructions.
  The Fiscal Year 2000 Legislative Branch Appropriations bill continues 
our efforts which began in 1994 to scale back the Federal Government 
and balance the budget by cutting spending first. As reported by the 
Committee on Appropriations, the funding in H.R. 1905 is 6.6 percent 
lower than the total legislative spending provided in fiscal year 1999. 
The bill cuts some $135 million as well as a total of 98 positions 
throughout the legislative branch.
  We have come a long way since the first year of the Republican 
majority. Since 1994 more than 4,400 positions have been eliminated; 
that is, 16 percent of the legislative work force, and with enactment 
of H.R. 1905 the House would save a total of $1.2 billion over 5 years.
  However, many of my colleagues think that we should go even further 
than H.R. 1905 to reduce spending on the legislative branch. Therefore, 
I will seek to amend the rule prior to its adoption by the House to 
make in order an amendment that will further reduce spending on the 
legislative branch by $54 million. The amendment will be debatable for 
20 minutes, and it will include cuts from the House's salaries and 
expenses as well as reductions in spending for the Architect of the 
Capitol, the Library of Congress and the General Accounting Office. 
This amendment is in line with the Speaker's updated appropriations 
strategy announced earlier this week which will ensure that we allocate 
our scarce resources in an equitable manner among our many spending 
priorities while abiding by the limits agreed to in the Balanced Budget 
Act of 1997.
  It is important to keep in mind that the Legislative Branch 
Appropriation bill is about more than funding Members' offices and 
their staffs. H.R. 1905 ensures that the United States Congress runs 
efficiently as a professional institution, and at the same time the 
bill supports the Capitol Building as a tourist attraction and national 
landmark that plays host to thousands of visitors each year. The 
Legislative Branch Appropriations bill provides funding for the 
maintenance of the Capitol building and grounds through the Architect 
of the Capitol; it finances the security provided by the Capitol 
Police, and it ensures access to government documents through the 
Government Printing Office. These organizations serve the public as 
much as they serve the people's elected representatives.
  This rule will provide for sufficient consideration of the substance 
of the legislation in a fair and orderly manner, and with the amendment 
I will offer to the rule the House will have the opportunity to vote to 
further reduce spending on the Legislative Branch by $54 million.
  Our efforts today prove that Congress is willing to look in its own 
backyard and do its part to cut spending to reach our balanced budget 
goals. If the rest of the federal budget had been reduced at the same 
rate as the Legislative Branch, we would have an additional one 
trillion, one hundred billion dollar budget surplus.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a fair rule for a reasonable Legislative Branch 
spending bill which continues our commitment to a smaller, smarter 
government that works for the American people. I urge my colleagues to 
support this rule and my amendment to it so that the House can move 
forward to debate and pass a responsible Legislative Branch 
Appropriations bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may 
consume and, I want to thank the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Pryce) for 
yielding me the time.
  This is a structured rule. It will allow for consideration of H.R. 
1905, which is a bill that makes appropriations for the Legislative 
Branch for the

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year 2000. As my colleague has described, this rule provides for 1 hour 
of general debate to be equally divided and controlled by the chairman 
and ranking minority member of the Committee on Appropriations.
  The rule permits only one amendment. That amendment assures that any 
unspent funds in a Member's representational allowance will be returned 
to the Treasury and used to reduce the national debt. If this amendment 
passes, any Member who feels that his or her office allowance is too 
high can in essence make a cut by not spending that money. This rule 
will allow the House to consider funding for the operations of the 
House of Representatives, the Congressional Budget Office, the 
Architect of the Capitol, the Library of Congress and Congressional 
Research Service, the Government Printing Office and the General 
Accounting Office. The money provided in this bill funds the office of 
every Member of this body.

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  Each Member's office provides service to our constituents and 
represents their interests in Washington, and we depend on CBO and the 
Library of Congress and the Congressional Research Service to assist in 
the representational duties assigned to us by the Constitution.
  The Government Printing Office does an extraordinary job by printing 
the bills and reports that are essential to our work and turning out 
the Congressional Record so we have a printed copy of our proceedings 
the day after they happen.
  We also depend on the Government Accounting Office to conduct 
professional nonpartisan reports and analysis of issues facing the 
Congress, and the Architect of the Capitol ensures that this 
magnificent building which we are so privileged to work in is 
maintained, cleaned and preserved.
  I would like to point out that there are a number of serious fault in 
this rule. One, the rule waives all points of order against all 
legislative provisions of the bill except for one. That provision was 
added by the gentleman from California (Mr. Farr) during the Committee 
on Appropriations markup. The Farr language requires that the Architect 
of the Capitol institute an effective waste recycling program and an 
environmentally sound and perhaps financially rewarding goal. Yet the 
Committee on Rules refused to waive points of order against this 
provision in spite of the fact that the waiver was requested by the 
Committee on Appropriations.
  For that reason and for this amendment that we just heard about in 
the last 15 minutes that is going to be added, if it passes, we will 
urge our colleagues certainly on this side and in the whole body to 
defeat the previous question, and, if the previous question is 
defeated, there will be another amendment offered to the rule to 
protect the provision requiring an effective recycling program in the 
House.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman 
from California (Mr. Horn).
  Mr. HORN. Mr. Speaker, I think a lot of our colleagues know that most 
of us in this chamber work very hard in committee, we work on a 
bipartisan basis in many committees and subcommittees. I am shocked at 
what I have seen tonight with motions to adjourn when we still have a 
lot of business that needs to be done.
  As I look at our Democratic friends on the other side, 103 voted for 
the motion to adjourn, 92 voted against the motion to adjourn and 
joined the unanimous majority Republican vote of 210, for a total of 
302 versus 104. I would hope those 92 Democrats would send a message to 
the 104 on the other side. They were the half who want to go home. 
Almost half of them do not want to go home. They want to work with us 
to carry on the Nation's business.
  Many know that I am not a partisan type of subcommittee Chair. During 
my four years as chairman, I have had full cooperation of three 
outstanding Democratic ranking Members. All three of them voted against 
the motion to adjourn. That would be typical, because they have been 
hard working Members in the committees. Despite that bipartisan 
relationship at the committee level somehow a few things can go awry on 
the floor.
  We have heard for months that some Democrats planned to disrupt the 
place, so we could not get the appropriation bills through the floor 
process. The ones in opposition seem to feel that slowing down the 
process will enable them to attack this ``do-nothing'' Congress.
  Well, that is just nonsense. This is a ``do'' Congress. It has done 
many good things. When the chips are down, a lot of the Democrats vote 
with us on final passage. The President signs many of those bills, into 
law despite a lot of antics along the way sometimes.
  Mr. Speaker, I think we should get back to work and not have these 
motions to adjourn that just put the whole chamber behind time in the 
schedule. I am glad we are pursuing this appropriations bill tonight.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 7 minutes to the gentleman 
from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), the ranking member of the Committee on 
Appropriations.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, it is important that the previous speaker 
understand that what has been happening in this House tonight on these 
motions to adjourn has nothing whatsoever to do with whether any of us 
want to work or do not want to work. They do have everything to do with 
procedural fairness and treating the average Member of this House the 
same way the leadership is treated.
  For three out of the four appropriation bills which have been brought 
to the floor this year, we have had the Republican leadership 
unilaterally rewrite committee products with no consultation with the 
minority party.
  The first of those occurred on the original hurricane supplemental, 
where the leadership unilaterally decided to rewrite that bill after it 
had left the committee.
  The second was the agriculture appropriations bill. Again, we had a 
bipartisan bill as it emerged from the committee. It was rewritten 
unilaterally by the leadership of this House, and that caused 
considerable problems, as you know.
  We now had a third bipartisan bill, the legislative appropriations 
bill, and again today the House leadership unilaterally rewrote that 
bill, without any consultation with the minority and without any 
consultation with the Committee on House Administration, which has 
authorization jurisdiction over House accounts.
  Now what we are asked to do is to approve a rule which will allow for 
only one amendment. The practical result of that will be that the 
majority whip will be protected in his 30 percent increase in his 
office account, other leadership Members will be protected with their 
increases in their office accounts, committees will be protected from 
significant reductions, but the rank and file Members of this House 
will have their office accounts frozen. That will mean that the average 
member will have a very difficult time providing a cost-of-living 
increase for their employees in their offices, even though they work 
just as hard as committee employees, but the committees will have no 
trouble providing cost-of-living increases for their staffers, and the 
leadership certainly will have no problem providing cost-of-living 
increases for their staff. That is reason number two why we have had 
these actions.
  Thirdly, at this point this bill has become so politicized that in my 
view it should not be considered until we know how other branches of 
government are treated. This Congress has no right to be treated any 
better than any other branch of government, and it has no obligation to 
be treated worse. We should be treated precisely the same. But at this 
point we have no idea what is going to happen to other agencies of 
government, and so, until we do, in my view, we should not be 
considering this bill at all.
  Fourthly, we have no idea what is going to happen to the American 
public in terms of the programs that affect them. We do know that we 
are going to see substantial cuts in Head Start, we

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are going to see a substantial squeeze on education, we are going to 
see a substantial squeeze on the Environmental Protection Agency 
budgets, and yet the Congress itself is being treated rather modestly 
in this legislation. It seems to me that that is not fair to our 
constituents.
  So, for a lot of reasons, we feel that this bill should not be before 
us tonight. I do not care when you bring it up, but it should not be 
brought up until we know how other branches of government are going to 
be dealt with and until we know how we are going to treat our own 
constituents with respect to programs that are of vital concern to 
them.
  We will not be able to amend tonight the account of the General 
Accounting Office. We will not be able to amend the account for the 
Speaker's office or for the majority leader's office or the minority 
leader's office or the whip's office. We will not be able to amend the 
budget for the Government Printing Office, for the Congressional Budget 
Office or a variety of other offices on the Hill. We will only be 
allowed to vote on that one amendment.
  Last week we had amendment after amendment on the agriculture 
appropriation bill. All of those accounts were subject to cuts. But 
under this rule tonight, very few accounts will be subject to 
reductions under the rule. That, to me, does not seem to be a fair way 
to do business.
  Now, I apologize to the House because taking a stand on principle is 
inconveniencing Members tonight. I am sorry about that. It is also 
inconveniencing me personally. Yesterday was my 37th anniversary. My 
wife and I did not get a chance to celebrate it last night. We expected 
to do it tonight. My wife is not a very happy person right now, and she 
has every right to be unhappy. But there are some matters of principle 
that we need to deal with whenever they arise.
  I knew the Republican leadership believed in trickle-down economics 
for the public. I did not know that the Republican leadership believed 
in trickle-down economics when it came to the House leadership versus 
the way they treat every other Member of the House. I find it 
interesting; I also find it not very healthy for the House.
  So I would say again in closing, this bill should not be before us 
until we know how we are going to deal with other bills that affect our 
constituents, and it certainly should not be before us until we know 
how we are going to treat other departments of government. We should be 
treated no worse than any other branch of government and we should be 
treated no better, and certainly we will have no way of measuring that 
if this bill is brought up on this ill-advised schedule this evening.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman 
from California (Mr. Cunningham).
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, one of the things I think most of us 
respect mostly on this floor is someone that we may disagree with but 
fights for principle, and I know the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. 
Obey), even though we disagree on some issues, one thing he does, he 
stands up for what he believes in. I respect that very, very much, and 
part of me understands what the gentleman is doing.
  But let me give you just another side of some of our feelings. I did 
not know what they were doing on this particular bill. I am not in the 
leadership. I do not have a staff. I am just a small cog in this whole 
membership. But each year I turn back about 20 percent of my own office 
budget. I try not to put in extra newsletters, do all the things that 
many of the Members do, and try to turn back money to the government to 
set an example, yet I try and take care of my staff very well.
  There are 13 appropriation bills, Mr. Speaker, and there are many of 
us that, when it comes down the line, things like Labor-HHS, I chaired 
a committee hearing for the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Porter). I had 
to shut down the hearing twice because the hearing was about children 
that had diseases and their only hope was Labor-HHS and medical 
research. I had to stop. I had so many tears coming down my eyes. I 
will never sit in another one of those hearings. I cannot do it.
  Where we think there are some tough choices, it may be in our own 
accounts, it is a place where we can add money, things like medical 
research and Labor-HHS. The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) said 
the other day he said he did not think we could double medical 
research. I would sure like to try. I think the gentleman from 
Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) would too.
  I think where we are taking small amounts of each committee, when you 
have got billions of dollars out of each one of these appropriations 
bills, including defense we just did for peacekeeping, then I think if 
we can shift over some of those amounts, and many of us feel the reason 
we want to get out of Kosovo is I think we are spending too much, not 
that that is the only reason, but spending too much money.
  I would say to my friend that, yes, we do want to help Social 
Security and we do want to help Medicare. Education, I want to reform 
it, and I do want to increase medical research. I honestly do as a 
Member.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I would simply like to ask one question: If we 
are going to cut Members' accounts, why should the majority whip 
receive a 30 percent increase in his account, while the average Member 
of this House has his account frozen?
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I cannot answer 
that, other than with a 5 vote margin, quite often it is very, very 
difficult to bring Members on your side to our way of thinking, and 
sometimes your thinking and the whip organization that tries to bring 
all of this together. Granted, we do not always do that in the best 
way.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman 
from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).

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  Mr. BLUMENAUER. I thank the gentleman for yielding time to me, Mr. 
Speaker.
  Mr. Speaker, part of why I am in Congress is because I believe that 
the Federal government has an opportunity to be a better partner with 
the rest of America to promote livable communities.
  This is a very small item in the large scheme of things in the debate 
that is going on tonight, but I think it speaks volumes to the level of 
hypocrisy that goes on in Washington, D.C.
  There was a provision that was inserted in the Committee on 
Appropriations by the gentleman from California (Mr. Farr) that would 
require a meaningful recycling program to be developed for the House of 
Representatives.
  I have been stunned at what we do not do in the House. We have the 
worst performance of any agency in the Federal government. I have Boy 
Scout troops in my district that have made more money recycling cans, 
bottles, and Christmas trees than the House of Representatives has done 
in the last 3 years that I have been in Congress. There are homeless 
people within the sight of this Capitol that make more money in a day 
than the House of Representatives was able to surplus for all the tons 
of paper that pass through this place in the year 1997.
  We are repeatedly assured that we have a recycling program. We have 
the funny little blue cans and cannisters, but it simply does not work. 
The Committee on Appropriations stepped forward to try and help 
encourage it in this bill.
  I note that under this rule, the only provision that is not protected 
is this requirement that we get serious about recycling. It seems to me 
that we have an opportunity to lead by example, to try and promote more 
livable communities. This does not cost any money. In fact, if we would 
grow up and do what we ask the rest of America to do, it would mean 
tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars in terms of 
increased money that we make to this House, and it would save disposal 
costs.
  A little thing? I do not understand what is going on tonight with 
some of this folderol. Somebody will explain it to the reporters and I 
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tomorrow. But I do know that it is embarrassing that we do not have a 
recycling program, that the House of Representatives is the worst 
performer in the Federal government; that we are being outperformed by 
homeless people and Boy Scout troops. We deserve to do better.
  I would ask that people not play games with this provision, that it 
be not struck down under a point of order. I think that it would be an 
important signal for us to send to the rest of America that we are 
serious about promoting livable communities, and we are willing to lead 
by example and not be hypocritical about it.
  If Members are going to do this, then for heavens sakes get rid of 
all the things that pretend to be recycling, throw them out. Do not 
have staff waste the time and money.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to 
the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder).
  Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Speaker, a couple of different points that I want to 
make here.
  One is that this is a very difficult process. We have a budget 
agreement that the President says he supports, that all of us in 
Congress say we support, that calls for very difficult appropriations 
levels, and quite bluntly, none of us are really happy with it.
  We want to keep the budget caps. We are trying to stay with the 
budget agreement. We all go out home and say we want to save all this 
money for social security. But when it comes to each bill, it is 
always, well, we really need this, we really need that.
  We have been trying to save a little bit of money in each one because 
a number of us strongly felt that while everybody talks about the need 
to stay within the budget agreement, the fact is that the money we had 
on the table for Labor-HHS, for Interior and Veterans, was not 
sufficient, and that every side was kind of doing a wink-wink and 
saying, well, we are trying to try to stay within the caps and within 
the budget agreement, knowing we were not working towards that.
  Every dollar we save in this appropriations bill, the agriculture 
appropriations bill, is going to be able to be used for those programs 
that the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) and others have said they 
are concerned about and will help us preserve social security. That is 
the real trade-off.
  Yes, it will be difficult for Members' offices to live under a 
freeze, which is in effect a reduction. But we also gave each Member of 
Congress flexibility to move their funds around, and most Members do 
not even spend their full account.
  Furthermore, this is another round, in my opinion, of ``pick on the 
majority whip.'' The plain truth of the matter is that the majority and 
minority are both getting the same amount of money in this. We reduced, 
in this agreement, the amendment that will be offered, the money going 
to leadership; not by a lot, but by some. This amendment does not 
really please anybody, but at least it moves the ball forward and 
reduces some funds overall.
  The minority leader, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Gephardt) gets 
the same amount as the majority whip. He can either give it to the 
minority whip or do it elsewhere. The fact is that early on, for many 
different reasons, in the majority side the whip's office was 
disproportionately cut in its budget. That is why the majority is 
choosing to put the money in the whip's office.
  The minority has the same amount of funds. What is good for one side 
is good for the other. We have also reduced the committee spending. We 
need to lead by example. Every dollar we can save in the operations 
that support Congress, in our own operations, in all of the many 
organizations here we can put into educating our children, into the 
health concerns raised by the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Cunningham), in the difference diseases. We can put it into our 
national defense.
  That is one of the problems here. We have just seen all of our 
secrets in our military, offensive and defensive, potentially be at 
risk to China. At the same time, unless we spend more money in defense, 
we are completely vulnerable. If we spend more money there, it squeezes 
elsewhere.
  I believe this amount of sacrifice is minimal on our parts, and it is 
courageous, because normally Congress does not allow any amendment on 
the leg branch. I think there should be more, but normally we do not 
allow any. Tonight we are taking a very important step that no other 
Congress has done.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman 
from Virginia (Mr. Moran).
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for 
yielding time to me.
  Mr. Speaker, do we really want to take care of ourselves first before 
the rest of the country? This is the bill that takes care of us, of our 
internal operations. When we finish with this, 97 percent of the 
appropriations process is still undone. Legislative branch may be the 
first appropriations bill. It could be the only appropriations bill 
enacted.
  Do we really want that? Do we really want to be increasing the 
majority whip's organization by 35 percent when we cut Head Start by 20 
percent, when we cut Meals on Wheels for the elderly by 20 percent? Is 
that really the situation that we want to present to our constituents?
  If in fact we are going to increase House operations, is it really 
appropriate to be putting the money into the leadership offices, into 
the committee offices, as deserving as they may be, when we know that 
the people who are most underpaid are the people who work directly for 
us for our constituents, the people who answer constituent letters, the 
people who deal with constituent problems, the people who are out face-
to-face with the people we represent?
  They are the most underpaid of all of the people that work within 
this organization. We can show the Members the statistics. Yet, their 
allocation is frozen so that we can provide the money for the 
leadership, for the whip's operation, primarily. If I am wrong, if the 
gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder) can tell me that the office of the 
gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) does not get a 35 percent increase in 
this budget. I would be more than happy for that to be explained on the 
floor.
  My understanding is that the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) does 
get 35 percent.
  Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. I yield to the gentleman from Indiana.
  Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Speaker, the whip's office took a $300,000 cut the 
first year the majority took over because of differences internally. 
This will put them, inflation-adjusted, about where they would have 
been. The minority is actually getting more than the gentleman from 
Texas (Mr. DeLay), but it goes to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. 
Gephardt).
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Would the knowledgeable gentleman from Indiana 
tell us on the floor how much the whip's organization is funded, and 
how many personnel work for the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay)?
  Mr. SOUDER. This I think would put them roughly at $1.4 million. It 
was at roughly $1.3 million in 1994 when the Democrats were in. That is 
not much of an increase in the whip operation.
  Furthermore, the Democrats are getting more money for the leader's 
office than the Republicans.
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. I would ask the gentleman, Mr. Speaker, is it 
not correct that the operation of the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) 
will get a 35 percent increase in this legislative branch 
appropriations bill?
  Mr. SOUDER. It is because they took a 35 percent cut earlier.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
  Mr. OBEY. To put that in context, when the majority took over, they 
promised that every agency in the Congress was going to have had a 25 
percent cut.
  Mr. MORAN of Virginia. I appreciate the gentleman putting that 
information on the Record.
  The fact is that all of us, we are going to have to tell our staffs 
that we have to swallow a cost of living increase, which means that we 
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to probably have to make cuts across-the-board.
  This bill freezes what we are going to be allocated for our personal 
staffs. I do not think that is what we want to do, and I do not think 
this is the proper allocation of very limited resources that are 
available to us.
  I do not think we want this bill to be the first and perhaps the only 
appropriations bill that actually gets enacted. I think we ought to be 
taking care of Health and Human Services first; of State, Justice, 
Commerce.
  FBI gets a 10 percent cut. Do we really want to deal with that when 
we have already provided significant increases for the leadership of 
this body? I do not think so. I do not think this shows that our 
priorities are in the right place.
  Mr. Speaker, I would urge a no vote on the rule.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman 
from California (Mr. Farr).
  Mr. FARR of California. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to 
this rule. I do so because the Committee on Rules specifically singled 
out one little provision in the bill and subjected it to elimination. 
The whole rest of the bill is safe. Any points of order against any 
problems in this bill are waived, except for one, just one. It is about 
whether this House ought to recycle.
  The Committee on Rules arbitrarily and with little regard simply 
waved their hand and said, no, the House will not recycle. This is what 
the effect of the rule is: We cannot adopt a mandatory recycling 
program.
  There is no recognition that the House already has a recycling 
program, and that it did not work. There is no recognition that the 
Committee on Appropriations accepted this language, and they accepted 
this language because they realized that it did not work, and they 
accepted this language in a bipartisan way because they realized that 
this is one part of the bill where we can make some money.
  The debate here tonight is about how we cut the costs. This is the 
one part of the bill that allows us to earn something for the trash 
that we produce. There is no recognition that everyone else in America 
has to recycle except the House of Representatives.
  What is so hard about recycling? What is so threatening about 
recycling, that this body has to strike it from this bill? What is it 
about recycling that scares the majority party about separating paper 
waste? You would think we were trying to talk about a tax increase, the 
way they are reacting on it.
  All we are asking is to recycle trash so that the House can conserve 
resources, reduce costs, and earn some money. The language in question 
says that the money earned, that the money earned from this will go to 
help underwrite the activities and operations of the House day care 
center.
  So by leaving this language exposed, we not only admit our reluctance 
to recycling, we deny our children access to better quality care. The 
rule stinks, and I ask for a no vote.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman 
from Indiana (Mr. Roemer).
  (Mr. ROEMER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. ROEMER. Mr. Speaker, Will Rogers once said, you can be moving on 
the right track, but if you are not moving fast enough, you are going 
to get run over.
  The budget process right now is such that we have a badly biased 
budget process that is headed for a train wreck, and that train wreck 
is going to crash into our children. The education and labor bill that 
we are going to eventually take up in this body I hope, if we can get 
to it, is about $12 billion shortfunded, $12 billion. That is not my 
particular figure, that is the figure of the Republican chairman, the 
gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Porter).
  Why is that important? Why should we try to handle this budget 
process now, rather than wait for this train wreck for our children 
later? That particular subcommittee funds NIH, health care, grants to 
help with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and breast cancer.
  That particular $12 billion underfunded bill funds Head Start, where 
we only have 36 percent of our eligible children enrolled.

                              {time}  2000

  That bill funds Pell Grants to get our Nation's high school students 
into college and help them pay for it. That bill funds TRIO programs 
for the poorest of the poor for after-school programs and summer school 
programs.
  Now, why is that important if it is not important for very obvious 
reasons for education? Well, we have got a juvenile justice bill coming 
up next week. We have got gun provisions on that particular bill.
  Now, that gun provision will not be in my first three or four 
immediate solutions to the shooting in Littleton. I think families are 
important, media, violence, school safety.
  School safety. What about TRIO programs? What about Head Start for 
our young people? That is the program in Labor HHS that is $12 billion 
underfunded.
  My good friend, the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder), I think 
makes some good points. He wants to put some more into defense. He 
wants to make some cuts. Well, we have cut $102 million from the 
agriculture appropriations bill, $54 million from this bill. My figures 
give that $156 towards a $12 billion shortfall. Whether one wants to 
put it into defense or education, let us get to it. Let us have the 
debate now.
  I try to work as much as anybody with the Republicans, and I thank 
the Committee on Rules for the rule for my amendment with the gentleman 
from Michigan (Mr. Camp) and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Upton) to 
return money that we do not spend. I have approached $1 million that I 
have not spent in my office account. That is a decision I made.
  I voted for the agriculture appropriations bill even though it took a 
$102 million hit, even though my farmers are at depressionary prices in 
the Midwest on hog, wheat, corn prices. But let us work in a bipartisan 
way to solve this education problem.
  Let us fix the budgetary problem now and not shut down government 
later. Let us fix the budgetary process now and not let this train 
wreck hit our children later.
  Let us work together across the aisle to try to fix this process and 
not do it piecemeal on this legislative branch bill on a Thursday night 
and let this train wreck happen. We have a juvenile justice bill coming 
up. We have an education bill with NIH and Head Start and preschool 
programs. Let us fix the budgetary process.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may 
consume.
  Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Roemer), whose amendment 
was made in order by the Committee on Rules, is absolutely right. 
Dollars are short, and that is one reason that the amendment to cut the 
$54 million out of our own account should be approved by this body so 
that we can make that apply across the board, down the line further 
when we do not have the dollars for Labor HHS and some of the other 
very important priorities of this Congress. So I urge us to adopt that 
amendment.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. 
Upton).
  Mr. UPTON. Mr. Speaker, I know the hour is getting late, and we have 
had a lot of votes, not only tonight, but earlier nights as well.
  I want to take this opportunity to congratulate the gentleman from 
Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), my friend and colleague on the other side of the 
aisle in celebration of his 37th anniversary. I would like to note that 
we are circulating a card, and all Members can sign this to my friend, 
the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) to congratulate him and his 
wife, Joan. We are glad that he is here tonight, and we hope to get him 
back soon.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman 
from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer).
  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I suppose I could wax eloquent about the 37 
years that Joan has put up with the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. 
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I will refrain from that and simply say that those of us who have the 
opportunity to serve with him and know Joan know them to be one of the 
most loving, caring couples that we know. We join the gentleman from 
Michigan (Mr. Upton) in congratulating them on their 37 years.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule and in opposition to 
this bill. I say to my colleagues in the majority, I do not know in 
whom you are repositing responsibility, but I do know this: There has 
been a lot of talk about working together. There has been a lot of talk 
about a family-friendly Congress.
  We went to Hershey, Pennsylvania, to talk about working together. 
That was apparently an objective of the majority. Well, I happen to 
serve on the Subcommittee on Legislative, which is chaired by the 
gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Taylor). I do not suppose there is 
anybody on the other side of the aisle that believes that the gentleman 
from North Carolina (Mr. Taylor) is a profligate spender. Is there?
  Apparently not.
  The gentleman from North Carolina (Chairman Taylor) looked at this 
bill and I presume made a judgment, a judgment as to what this 
institution needed to run responsibly. In that process, of course we 
adopted a budget that was promulgated by the Republicans, the budget of 
the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Kasich) and his Senate counterpart.
  Now, very frankly, I voted against that budget. My belief is there 
are an awful lot of people who voted for that budget who know it will 
not work and know it is going to crash, period, paragraph, 30.
  Now we pursue a charade, and that charade is that we are going to 
nickel-and-dime. This entire bill is four-tenths of a percent of the 
discretionary spending that the appropriators will spend pursuant to 
the budget resolution.
  There is no Budget Act point of order that would lie against this 
bill. Why? Because it is within the budget resolution. This is not 
something that we went outside the constraints of the budget resolution 
and the 302(b) allocations to our committee. We are within the 
allocation.
  But there is now this pretense that somehow we are going to save 
education. We are going to put $2 billion, that is what the chairman of 
our subcommittee wants to do, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Porter), 
2 billion extra dollars in NIH by somehow reconfiguring these figures 
at the last minute.
  The gentleman from North Carolina and I do not always agree, but I 
will tell my colleagues this, the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. 
Taylor) sat down with the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Pastor), the 
ranking member on our subcommittee, in a bipartisan fashion and said, 
how do we make this bill work?
  Guess what, Mr. Speaker, their bill passed out of our subcommittee 
unanimously. Then it went to full committee. In a bipartisan fashion, 
the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young) conducted the debate. The 
gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) made his comments, the gentleman 
from Arizona (Mr. Pastor) and the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. 
Taylor) made their comments, and it passed by voice vote unanimously 
out of the committee.
  This was not a bill that had great controversy to it. But then, as I 
said the other day on this floor, that happened on the agriculture 
bill. All of a sudden, arising from the bosom of the Republican 
Conference came a hue cry, ``This is not enough''; and without any 
consultation with our side of the aisle at all, totally destroyed the 
bipartisanship that had created a consensus on this legislation.
  We are confronted with these amendments which, yes, do undermine the 
ability of Members, in my opinion, to represent appropriately their 
constituents and to recognize the effort of our employees.
  This will not save education, which, as the gentleman from Indiana 
(Mr. Roemer) pointed out, is $12 billion under what my colleagues say 
we need, what the chairman says we need, not us on our side of the 
aisle, but what my chairman says is necessary to fund adequately 
education and health care in the Labor HHS bill.
  Mr. Speaker, this is, as I said earlier, a charade to serve some 
rhetorical argument about fiscal responsibility while, at the same time 
we say we want to save education, we in fact underfund education.
  This is very early in the process. This is an extraordinarily easy 
proposal to make. But the hour will come when the proposals will not be 
so easy, the rhetoric will not be so symbolic, and when the 
consequences will be much more severe. Let us reject this rule.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The gentleman from Ohio (Mr. 
Hall) has 1\1/2\ minutes remaining. The gentlewoman from Ohio has 14\1/
2\ minutes remaining.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman 
from Connecticut (Mr. Shays).
  Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the rule, but just want 
to express tremendous reservation that this House that passed the 
congressional accountability bill to get Congress under all the laws we 
impose on the rest of the Nation would not shield the requirement that 
the House have mandatory recycling.
  I think it is a terrible mistake that this House, this Congress, is 
not setting the example for the rest of the country; and I hope that we 
resolve this issue quickly, given it will probably be declared out of 
order in the bill itself.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman 
from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I would simply say, if the majority party 
leadership wants to save $50 million, all they have to do is to sit 
down with us and ask us to participate in shaping that cut so that it 
could be fair and balanced and real.
  I would urge them, do not unilaterally take actions that belie their 
claim to want bipartisanship and do not play games with rank and file 
Members and squeeze their budgets while insulating the power centers of 
this body.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 4 minutes to 
the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Coburn).
  Mr. COBURN. Mr. Speaker, I do have great respect for the gentleman 
from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey). I do believe he is a man of principle. But I 
think that the reason we are at this position is that there is a bigger 
principle, and the bigger principle, in 1997, this Congress and the 
President of the United States agreed to spend a certain amount of 
money; and this is the year that the hard, tough cuts come in that.
  Now, for many years, Congresses have said, we will make a deal and 
wink, and we know 2 or 3 years down the road we are not going to honor 
that deal. Well, we have a new dilemma before us, and the new dilemma 
before us is every penny that we spend above that agreement we take 
from the seniors in this country, we take from the working men and 
women in this country, and we take from the children who are going to 
work, because every one of those dollars is going to be stolen from 
Social Security.
  Now, in Oklahoma, we think $54 million is a whole lot of money. We 
think $54 million added to Labor HHS might make the difference in 
somebody's life. I am sorry that the people on the other side do not 
think that that is a significant sum. But I would tell you that $54 
million will make a difference. It is money that we are not going to 
spend now so that we will have it available to take care of those 
people in this country that are depending on us.
  We claim a surplus. The only surplus we have is the excess of the 
payments that are coming into the Treasury over the Social Security 
payments that are going out. It is not our money to spend. We have an 
absolute obligation to make every effort to try to live up to the 
agreement between the Congress of the United States and the President 
that we made in 1997.
  It is unfortunate that it is happening this way, but the fact is that 
every senior out there believes that we should not touch their Social 
Security money.

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Most people who are paying 12.5 percent FICA believe we should not be 
touching their Social Security money. The children that are coming up 
are either going to have to pay 25 percent FICA or they are not going 
to have any Social Security.
  So we can say this is a partisan debate. What the real debate is is 
whether or not we can lead by example.
  Now, the average Member of Congress has $1.5 million, almost $1.6 
million, to spend a year; and that is more than enough to adequately 
represent our districts.
  I noticed that the two gentlemen that I have great respect for, who 
really made a statement that that was not enough, happened to represent 
the bureaucracy in Washington. $1.6 million to employ somewhere between 
18 and 22 people and adequately represent that constituency is far 
greater than what we need.

                              {time}  2015

  But that is where we are. We can live within that budget. If we 
cannot live within that budget, then we ought to have a better 
understanding of what the Social Security recipients out there are 
doing when they get a COLA of 1.3 percent.
  So the real principle is, if we have been elected to represent a 
group of people in this Congress, the least we can do is lead by 
example in our own offices. We do not have to pay high rents in our own 
offices. We can find something less. There will not be one person who 
does not get an increase that is earned by us freezing our Members' 
representational allowance.
  I would ask the Members of this body to support this rule. We are 
spending adequate amounts on the legislative branch. And let us lead by 
example and let us save the money for the Labor-HHS that is coming up 
later.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time 
and would just say that I would urge my colleagues to defeat the 
previous question. If the previous question is defeated, we will offer 
an amendment to the rule that extends waivers provided in this rule to 
language in the bill which requires an effective recycling program in 
the House.
  Furthermore, if the amendment to the rule is approved, we will oppose 
the rule. We are taking up a major change in the rule. Our side 
received almost no advanced notice. Occasionally we pass a technical 
amendment to a rule, once in a while it is substantive, but in the 
past, as long as I have been on the Committee on Rules, we have always 
had consultation and we have always had an agreement with the minority. 
This is the first time I can remember that we have passed a rule like 
this.
  For these reasons we will oppose the rule and certainly ask for a 
vote on the previous question.
  Mr. Speaker, I submit for the Record the text of the amendment we 
will offer if the previous question is defeated:

       On page 2, line 12, strike ``except'' and all that follows 
     through ``15'' on page 13.
  Mr. HALL of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.


  Amendment In The Nature of a Substitute Offered by Ms. Pryce of Ohio

  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment in the nature of 
a substitute.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Amendment in the nature of a substitute offered by Ms. 
     Pryce of Ohio:
       Strike all after the resolved clause and insert in lieu 
     thereof the following:
       ``That at any time after the adoption of this resolution 
     the Speaker may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, 
     declare the House resolved into the Committee of the Whole 
     House on the state of the Union for consideration of the bill 
     (H.R. 1905) making appropriations for the Legislative Branch 
     for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2000, and for other 
     purposes. The first reading of the bill shall be dispensed 
     with. Points of order against consideration of the bill for 
     failure to comply with section 306 or 401 of the 
     Congressional Budget Act of 1974 are waived. General debate 
     shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour 
     equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking 
     minority member of the Committee on Appropriations. After 
     general debate the bill shall be considered for amendment 
     under the five-minute rule. The bill shall be considered as 
     read. Points of order against provisions in the bill for 
     failure to comply with clause 2 of rule XXI are waived except 
     as follows: page 18, line 19, through page 19, line 15. No 
     amendment shall be in order except the amendment printed in 
     House Report 106-165, the amendment printed in section 2 of 
     this resolution, and pro forma amendments offered by the 
     chairman or ranking minority member of the Committee on 
     Appropriations or their designees for the purpose of debate. 
     The amendment printed in the report may be offered only by a 
     Member designated in the report, and the amendment printed in 
     section 2 may be offered only by a Member designated in 
     section 2. Each amendment shall be considered as read, shall 
     be debatable for 20 minutes equally divided and controlled by 
     the proponent and an opponent, shall not be subject to 
     amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand for division 
     of the question in the House or in the Committee of the 
     Whole. All points or order against the amendment printed in 
     the report and the amendment printed in section 2 are waived. 
     The chairman of the Committee of the Whole may: (1) postpone 
     until a time during further consideration in the Committee of 
     the Whole a request for a recorded vote on any amendment; and 
     (2) reduce to five minutes the minimum time for electronic 
     voting on any postponed question that follows another 
     electronic vote without intervening business, provided that 
     the minimum time for electronic voting on the first in any 
     series of questions shall be 15 minutes. After a motion that 
     the Committee rise has been rejected on a legislative day, 
     the Chairman may entertain another such motion on that day 
     only if offered by the chairman of the Committee on 
     Appropriations or the Majority Leader or their designee. 
     After a motion to strike out the enacting words of the bill 
     (as described in clause 9 of rule XVIII) has been rejected, 
     the Chairman may not entertain another such motion during 
     further consideration of the bill. At the conclusion of 
     consideration of the bill for amendment the Committee shall 
     rise and report the bill to the House with such amendments as 
     may have been adopted. The previous question shall be 
     considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to 
     final passage without intervening motion except one motion to 
     recommit with or without instructions.
       ``Sec. 2. (a) The amendment described in the first section 
     of this resolution is as follows:

               Amendment Offered by Mr. Young of Florida

       On Page 38 before line 4 add the following new section:
       Sec.   . Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, 
     appropriations under this Act for the following agencies and 
     activities are reduced by the following respective amounts: 
     House of Representatives, Salaries and Expenses, $29,135,000, 
     from which the following accounts are to be reduced by the 
     following amounts:
       House Leadership Offices, $142,000;
       Members' Representational Allowances Including Members' 
     Clerk Hire, Official Expenses of Members, and Official Mail, 
     $28,297,000;
       Committee on Appropriations, $213,000;
       Salaries, Officers and Employees, $483,000 to be derived 
     from other authorized employees;
       Architect of the Capitol, Capitol Buildings and Grounds, 
     Capitol Buildings, Salaries and Expenses, $1,465,000;
       Architect of the Capitol, Capitol Buildings and Grounds, 
     House Office Buildings, $3,400,000;
       Architect of the Capitol, Capitol Buildings and Grounds, 
     Capitol Power Plant, $4,400,000;
       Libary of Congress, Congressional Research Service, 
     Salaries and Expenses, $315,000;
       Government Printing Office, Congressional Printing and 
     Binding, $4,127,000;
       Library of Congress, Salaries and Expenses, $685,000;
       Library of Congress, Furniture and Furnishings, $5,415,000;
       Architect of the Capitol, Library Buildings and Grounds, 
     Structural and Mechanical Care, $4,372,000; and
       General Accounting Office, Salaries and Expenses, 
     $1,500,000: Provided, That the amount reduced under House of 
     Representatives, House Leadership Offices, shall be 
     distributed among the various leadership offices as approved 
     by the Committee on Appropriations: Provided further, That 
     the amount to remain available under the heading Architect of 
     the Capitol, Capitol Buildings and Grounds, Capitol 
     Buildings, Salaries and Expenses, is reduced by $1,465,000; 
     the amount to remain available under the heading Architect of 
     the Capitol, Capitol Buildings and Grounds, House Office 
     Buildings, is reduced by $3,400,000; and the amount to remain 
     available under the heading Architect of the Capitol, Library 
     Buildings and Grounds, Structural and Mechanical Care, is 
     reduced by $4,000,000.
       (b) The amendment printed in subsection (a) may be offered 
     only by Representative Young of Florida or his designee.''.

  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, this amendment will provide for 
consideration of another amendment which would cut $54 million in 
legislative spending. The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young) or his 
designee

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will offer the amendment and it will be debatable for 20 minutes. In 
addition, the amendment prevents further dilatory tactics during 
consideration of H.R. 1905 so that we can finish tonight.
  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question on the 
amendment and on the resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The question is on ordering the 
previous question on the amendment and on the resolution.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a 
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not 
present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair will reduce to a minimum 
of 5 minutes the period of time within which a vote by electronic 
device, if ordered, will be taken on the question of agreeing to the 
resolution.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 213, 
nays 198, not voting 23, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 194]

                               YEAS--213

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Cook
     Cox
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kelly
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shows
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--198

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Goode
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--23

     Bass
     Bentsen
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Engel
     Frelinghuysen
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Hunter
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Payne
     Petri
     Rangel
     Smith (NJ)

                              {time}  2045

  Messrs. NADLER, JOHN, and MARTINEZ changed their vote from ``yea'' to 
``nay.''
  Messrs. LEWIS of California, COX, ARMEY, and Mrs. JOHNSON of 
Connecticut changed their vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the previous question was ordered.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                Motion to Reconsider Offered by Mr. Obey

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote by which the 
previous question was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The question is on the motion 
to reconsider the vote offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. 
Obey).


              Motion to Table Offered by Ms. Pryce of Ohio

  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay the motion to 
reconsider on the table.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to lay on the 
table the motion to reconsider offered by the gentlewoman from Ohio 
(Ms. Pryce).
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 218, 
noes 194, not voting 23, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 195]

                               AYES--218

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Cook
     Cox
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hutchinson
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)

[[Page 12514]]


     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kelly
     Kind (WI)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shows
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--194

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--23

     Bentsen
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Engel
     Gephardt
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Rangel
     Scarborough
     Stark
     Wexler

                              {time}  2053

  So the motion to table was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The question is on the 
amendment in the nature of a substitute offered by the gentlewoman from 
Ohio (Ms. Pryce).
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 232, 
noes 182, not voting 20, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 196]

                               AYES--232

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Berry
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Boswell
     Boyd
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Condit
     Cook
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hansen
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Holt
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     John
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kelly
     Kind (WI)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Maloney (CT)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Roemer
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shows
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Turner
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--182

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Costello
     Coyne
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)

[[Page 12515]]


     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--20

     Bentsen
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Engel
     Gephardt
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Houghton
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Rangel

                              {time}  2102

  So the amendment in the nature of a substitute was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


           Motion to Reconsider the Vote Offered by Mr. Obey

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote by which the 
amendment was just adopted.


              Motion to Table Offered By Ms. Pryce of Ohio

  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay the motion to 
reconsider on the table.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The question is on the motion 
offered by the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Pryce) to lay on the table 
the motion to reconsider offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. 
Obey).
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 230, 
noes 180, not voting 24, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 197]

                               AYES--230

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Boswell
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Condit
     Cook
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goode
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hansen
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Holt
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     John
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kelly
     Kind (WI)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Roemer
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rothman
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shows
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Turner
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--180

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (NC)
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Wise
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--24

     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Crowley
     Engel
     Gephardt
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Weygand
     Woolsey

                              {time}  2109

  So the motion to table the motion to reconsider was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution, as 
amended.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 216, 
noes 194, not voting 25, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 198]

                               AYES--216

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Cook
     Cox
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kelly
     Kind (WI)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary

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     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--194

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Goode
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (CT)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Price (NC)
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Shows
     Sisisky
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--25

     Bentsen
     Blumenauer
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Engel
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Johnson (CT)
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Maloney (NY)
     McDermott
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Porter
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Weygand
  So the resolution, as amended, was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

                              {time}  2116


                Motion To Reconsider Offered by Mr. Obey

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote by which the 
resolution was adopted.


              Motion to Table Offered by Ms. Pryce of Ohio

  Ms. PRYCE of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay the motion to 
reconsider on the table.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hansen). The question is on the motion 
to table offered by the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Pryce).
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5 minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 218, 
noes 197, not voting 20, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 199]

                               AYES--218

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Biggert
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Brady (TX)
     Bryant
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Cook
     Crane
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     DeMint
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Granger
     Green (WI)
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill (MT)
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kaptur
     Kelly
     Kind (WI)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kuykendall
     LaHood
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Miller, Gary
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Ose
     Packard
     Paul
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Riley
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaffer
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherwood
     Shimkus
     Shows
     Shuster
     Simpson
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Sweeney
     Talent
     Tancredo
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Toomey
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vitter
     Walden
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--197

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baird
     Baldacci
     Baldwin
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Berkley
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crowley
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Goode
     Gordon
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hill (IN)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Holt
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Inslee
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson, E.B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kanjorski
     Kennedy
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Larson
     Lee
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller, George
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Phelps
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (NC)
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schakowsky
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (WA)

[[Page 12517]]


     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Towns
     Turner
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weiner
     Wexler
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--20

     Bentsen
     Bono
     Brown (CA)
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Engel
     Graham
     Green (TX)
     Hilleary
     Kasich
     Largent
     Lofgren
     Luther
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Rahall
     Rangel

                              {time}  2124

  So the motion to table was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.

                          ____________________