[Congressional Record (Bound Edition), Volume 145 (1999), Part 7]
[House]
[Pages 10323-10327]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]



                         HISTORY OF YUGOSLAVIA

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. Emerson). Under the Speaker's announced 
policy of January 6, 1999, the gentleman from California (Mr. 
Cunningham) is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the 
majority leader.
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Madam Speaker, I come tonight to give maybe a little 
different perspective on the war in Kosovo than most people have seen 
from the spin from NATO and the White House. I would like to give some 
information that has not been widely disseminated but I think is 
important before any solution in the Balkans is possible.
  First of all, Rambouillet, which was an attempt at an agreement which 
was not an agreement, to bring the Muslim and Serbian Yugoslavs 
together. Let me go back first with Rambouillet and explain where 
Rambouillet was a very failed foreign policy effort.
  I use the quotes of both Larry Eagleburger and Henry Kissinger in 
saying that Rambouillet was a failed foreign policy from the start.
  Look at history, and I met with the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who I 
disagree with probably more than I agree, but one thing I respected 
about Reverend Jackson was not necessarily that he brought our 
prisoners back, that was good, but his ability to place himself in the 
shoes of either side of an argument. Even if he disagrees with one side 
or another, he understands that before someone can ever have a solution 
that they have to understand the feelings and what is in the mind and 
the heart of both sides, or there is no choice whatsoever.
  Part of that understanding is the history of greater Yugoslavia. On 
April 5, 1941, just last month the anniversary, Germany bombed 
Belgrade. They put over 700,000 Nazis into Kosovo in the area. The 
Nazis were supported by a half a million Croatians, and about a quarter 
of that number of Muslims. One in three Serbs died in Kosovo fighting 
the Nazis, the Croatians and the Muslims.
  The civilians in Kosovo had to flee across the Danube River for their 
lives, while the forces under a General Miholevic, not Milosevic but 
Miholevic, supported both the partisans and the loyalists. The Chetniks 
were more of a guerilla warfare.
  In the three-year period of over a million Nazis, the Chetniks, the 
partisans and the loyalists either killed or pushed out every Croatian, 
Muslim and Nazi out of Kosovo.
  In 1387, the Serbs celebrate still Kosovo and the founding of their 
Orthodox Catholic church at 1,600 different churches and shrines.
  So Rambouillet, I would ask after that kind of history, would a 
person if they were in any of the United States, if they were in Texas, 
if they were in California and say Mexico populated either one of those 
States by 90 percent and all of a sudden they wanted California or 
Texas to go to Mexico, does anyone think the United States would allow 
that to happen? I do not, absolutely.
  The second part of Rambouillet said that, oh, by the way, you cannot 
have any of your police force in Kosovo; that even though Kosovo is 
part of greater Serbia or Yugoslavia, none of your laws apply; only the 
laws of the majority which are the Albanians, and in 3 years there will 
be a vote as to whether Albania remains part of Serbia.
  Not Milosevic but the Serbian people, and the understanding of what 
Kosovo means to the Serbs, was a great, great failure of this 
administration and the President to recognize. Either the President 
recognized it and wanted us to go to war or he did not recognize the 
importance of Kosovo to the Serbian people. Either way, it is why we 
are at the position we are today.
  To say that diplomatic efforts were exhausted is far from the truth, 
and there are still ways for us to get out of this particular 
nightmare.
  I fought in Vietnam. I spent 20 years of my life in the military as a 
senior commander, responsible both for a Navy fighter weapons top gun 
and at Naval staff on the planning, the invasion of Southeast Asia and 
European countries, and my friends from the Pentagon have told me that 
they told the President not to conduct air strikes into Kosovo.
  Why? They said, first of all, air strikes alone would not achieve a 
single goal that the President wanted. Secondly, that every one of the 
problems that existed then would be exacerbated, would be increased. 
They told the President that it is highly probable and most likely that 
the Serb forces would force evacuation of Albanians, since that had 
been, in their eyes, a big problem over the last two decades.
  Madam Speaker, take a look at the children's eyes that are refugees 
today, a million refugees walking through the snow. I have two 
daughters and I looked as if my own daughters had to go through this, 
and we need to thank God every day that we live in a country where that 
does not happen. In my view, there are two people that have caused that 
mass evacuation and forced the refugees. One is Milosevic and the other 
is the President of the United States by forcing the bombing.
  Most people do not realize the hysteria: This is another Nazi, this 
is another Holocaust. Most people do not realize the total number, the 
total number of people killed in Kosovo in a

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1-year period prior to the United States and NATO bombing was 2,012 
people killed. We kill more people than that in New York City and 
Washington, D.C. every year. Now, each individual is important, but it 
is also important to realize that one-third of those 2,000 people were 
Serbs that were killed by the KLA.
  Did they have a fight? Yes. Were there atrocities? Yes, on both 
sides. Until one puts themselves in the shoes of either side and both 
sides in the eyes of what is important to them, what are their fears? 
The Serbs fear the Germans. They did not want NATO troops with Germans 
in there. They fear that Kosovo will be taken away from them, much like 
if California or Texas was taken away from the United States.
  The Albanians want some kind of participation in the government. They 
have about 90 percent of the population, but most people do not realize 
60 percent of that 90 percent of the Albanians are there illegally. 
They are not citizens of Kosovo. They have come across the border from 
Albania illegally.

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  And that, in itself, is a problem.
  Listen to the briefs. Watch the television, Madam Speaker, and listen 
to the Albanians talk about how they were forced out of their homes by 
the Serbs. Were they forced prior? No. There are 300,000 Albanians that 
live in Belgrade and not a single one has left because they live there 
peacefully. They live there peacefully together.
  But listen to the debriefs from Kosovo. They were forced out of their 
homes. They were not fleeing prior to the bombing, but like the 
military told the President, upon NATO's strikes, the Serbs started 
forcing the Albanians out of Kosovo. They knew that the KLA on the 
ground was a threat to them. Is it right? No, I am not saying it is 
right, but I am saying we have to look at the total picture.
  Well, Mr. President, if you are trying to change your legacy with a 
war or be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, one is not nominated for 
the Nobel Peace Prize by killing more civilians in these strikes than 
the Serbs killed in the one-year period prior. One does not get 
nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for forcing millions of people to 
evacuate and then claiming it is a Holocaust, which it was not.
  I spoke to General Clark face-to-face in Brussels a month ago, and I 
asked General Clark, I said, how many of the sorties, how many of the 
flights is the United States participating in? There are 19 nations in 
NATO, 18 other nations. The United States, part of NATO in a European 
problem, is flying 75 percent of the strike missions. The United 
States, 75 percent.
  Tony Blair gets up and says, put in ground troops, put in ground 
troops. He only has 18 airplanes in Kosovo in those strikes, but yet he 
beats on his chest and says put in ground troops.
  Madam Speaker, 75 percent of the strikes does not include the B-2 
strikes out of the United States; it does not include the C-17s, it 
does not include the tanking and the logistics flights, which puts the 
United States' flights in Kosovo at over 86 percent, Madam Speaker. 
Ninety percent of the weapons dropped are from the United States, and 
yet there are 18 nations, other nations in this.
  I asked General Clark, I said, well, why are we flying all of these 
missions? He said, Duke, most of the NATO nations do not have these 
stand-off weapons. They do not have these stand-off weapons, and the 
weather is bad. You think they might have checked the weather to know 
that there was a two-week forecasted bad weather over Kosovo before 
they ever started air strikes. No, they did not.
  Ninety percent of the weapons. Our next supplemental should be a 
check from those nations. If they cannot fly the strikes, if they 
cannot support NATO, if they cannot supply the ordnance, then they 
ought to be at least burden-sharing and paying the United States for 
it.
  This ad hoc war, ground troops, in all of the tactical experience 
that I had in the military, working with all services and most of our 
friendly allies, not once would I ever tell an enemy that I was not 
going to use a certain type of force like ground troops. It is lunacy. 
It is idiotic in a tactical environment to tell your enemy that you 
want to change his heart and mind, but you are only going to use air 
strikes, to allow him to focus on one phase and not have to prepare for 
ground troops, not have to station his troops and deploy his weapons.
  Do my colleagues think that the President might have told Russia, 
Chernomyrdin, knowing how Russia feels, do you think they might have 
told the Russians that they were going to bomb Kosovo when Chernomyrdin 
was on his way to the United States and actually turned his airplane 
around and went back? Is that acceptable foreign policy? I do not think 
so.
  This ad hoc war. People said well, Duke, how can they possibly look 
at a map and bomb an embassy like China's? Well, when one is doing 
something so fast, so ad hoc, and one rips maps off without any prior 
planning, it is very easy to see. When one is scrambling to find 
targets, when one is scrambling because one's missions are not being 
successful, then it is easy. And they took the wrong map. Even today, 
they hit two other embassies and they hit a hospital, killing hundreds 
of civilians. Again I say, the United States and NATO has killed more 
civilians in Kosovo than the Serbs killed in the entire year prior to 
the bombing. And that is wrong.
  Madam Speaker, if one comes from the 1970s and one was a left-wing 
antiwar protestor or belonged to a protest group, and one is in 
leadership and one attempts to use a vehicle like the military that one 
neither understands or supports and even loathes, most of one's 
decisions, in my opinion, are going to be inept, they are going to be 
incorrect, because one does not have the gut feelings of what it should 
take.
  A classic example of that was in Vietnam with the President we had 
then that controlled every single strike, and that was Lyndon Johnson. 
I lost a lot of my close friends in air-to-air. I was shot down on May 
10, 1972 over North Vietnam, and many of my friends died because of 
inept decisions by a left-wing person that neither accepted, supported 
or understood the military.
  When the President, knowing that he has surrounded himself with the 
Tony Lakes, with the Ira Magaziners, with the Strobe Talbotts, and he 
disavows, does not accept the advice of the military warfighters, that 
is even more of a problem, and it has been disastrous.
  We had a briefing from a source which I am not allowed to say, but it 
is a very important governmental source, and the KLA is supported by 
the Mujahedin and Hamas from Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. Are they in 
large numbers? Are they entire armies? No. But they have evidence of 
those individuals infiltrating the KLA units.
  I will say that if I was an Albanian citizen and put myself in their 
shoes, I would be a member of the KLA, fighting for what I believed in. 
But on the other hand, if I was a Serb, I would be a Serbian soldier 
fighting for what I believed in. And until the President recognizes 
that, there is no solution. The Mujahedin and Hamas have a small 
influence, but it is there and it has to be removed.
  They said, is it likely Osama bin Laden, like the Washington Times 
reported, has influenced and is supporting the KLA? Well, I will let my 
colleagues draw the inference. Osama bin Laden has organizations in 
over 150 areas, and everywhere there is a Muslim issue, he is involved. 
They said there is no direct evidence, but it is likely.
  It was also reported in all of the European press and the United 
States in The New York Times that the number one heroin dealer, the 
number one heroin dealers were the Albanian Kosovars. And yes, the 
source said that that money is going in to support the KLA. They will 
take money from anybody they can. They consider it their survival.
  General Clark, when I was in Brussels, I looked at him and besides 
asking him how many sorties were flying, he said, Duke, at the 
beginning of this NATO only wanted to fly one day and quit, because of 
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things. They did not have their hearts and minds into this. General 
Clark said the President called Tony Blair from England, the German 
Chancellor, and they pushed this, that it is a must, it is a must. What 
that agenda is I do not know. All I know is that this ad hoc war has 
been disastrous not only for the American people, but for the Albanians 
and for the Serbs.
  Madam Speaker, I think it is improper to say that all Germans were 
Nazis in World War II. There were a lot of innocent people. A lot of 
people did not support the Nazis. There are a lot of people that are 
not Mujahedin and Hamas, that are fighting for their lives, and if we 
look into the eyes of those children, we should have as much sympathy 
for those children and the innocent civilians on the Albanian side and 
the Serb side of the innocent people that are being killed because of 
war. That is important also.
  Madam Speaker, I remember Madeleine Albright saying that if we 
allowed Czechoslovakia, Poland and Hungary into NATO, the United States 
would not have to participate in any European war. Well, guess what? 
They are all three part of NATO. And during the conflict 
Czechoslovakia, Poland and Hungary would not even let us fly over their 
airspace, and it took some serious arm-twisting by Madeleine Albright 
and others, the President, to use their airspace or even their bases 
and deploy.
  They had a NATO summit here, anniversary, and the President says that 
all NATO is speaking with one voice. Well, Mr. President, if that is 
true, why is Hungary, why is France, why is Greece, why is Russia still 
shipping oil to Serbs in the greater Yugoslavia? They are not speaking 
with one voice, and the spin that NATO and the White House places on 
this is atrocious, in my opinion.
  Take a look, Madam Speaker, at what NATO is today. We no longer have 
Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher types. I ask my colleagues to look 
at the Germans. It is a green socialist government. Look at France. 
France has a socialist, communist coalition in their government. They 
threw out the conservatives. If we look at England with Tony Blair, 
labor left. Israel just yesterday, labor left. Germany, as I mentioned. 
Italy, Communist.
  So NATO is made up today of not Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, 
but people that are socialist and Communist and left. And it is 
difficult to make decisions using the military when those individuals 
historically have fought against the military itself.
  Another little-known fact, Madam Speaker, briefed again by a source, 
the same source as I quoted a minute ago, said 70 percent of the 
Russian military support the overthrow of the Yeltsin government. We 
have seen just this week and last week an attempt of an impeachment of 
President Yeltsin.
  Seventy percent of the Russian military who support their leadership 
are the hard-line communists that support Milosevic. They want us to go 
in with ground troops. It would give them the catalyst that they need 
to return the former Soviet Union back to communism. And it is a very 
difficult problem.
  Look at Greece. Greece has ties to the Serbs because when the Serbs 
kicked out the 1 million Nazis, look at Thessalonica in northern 
Greece, where millions of Greeks and Jews and Serbs were annihilated by 
the Nazis, and Greece with its orthodox church, along with the Serbian 
orthodox church and their tie-in with World War II, makes them an ally.
  And look at what we have done with China and Russia and Greece, 
people that we have been working with through trade with China, through 
trying to start a democracy going and light the fires of a young 
democracy in Russia, and even working with the Greeks has been 
disastrous foreign policy for the United States.

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  All of this, and they say, Duke,  you are a hawk. I am not a hawk, 
Madam Speaker. I am a dove, but I like to be a well-armed dove. And 
those that have fought in war and held, like in Private Ryan, held our 
friends and watched them die, maybe we are a little more reluctant to 
get our people involved in a conflict to where we know there is going 
to be a lot of loss of human life, and where we also know that 
diplomacy would work.
  The President talks about wanting to save social security with a 
surplus, to save Medicare with a surplus, education from the surplus. I 
would like to see medical research, because it is exciting, what NIH is 
doing today as far as the cure and the elimination of disease. We would 
like to double that.
  I was in a group yesterday that wants to increase prostate cancer 
research by $100 million total. Madam Speaker, we cannot do that by 
spending $50 billion in Kosovo. We spent $16 billion thus far in Bosnia 
and we are only supposed to be there 1 year, $16 billion.
  Do Members know that we still spend $25 million a year building roads 
in Haiti? And Haiti had no national security to the United States. The 
extension of Somalia, which most of us opposed, we got 22 Rangers 
killed and we got our butts kicked out of there. We had to run out of 
Somalia.
  Every time the President had a personal political tragedy, we went 
into Iraq four different times. Let us not forget the hasty decision to 
go into the Sudan and bomb an aspirin factory. They just asked for $45 
million to pay back the Sudanese, and the President said, okay, $45 
million. Who is responsible? Has anybody been held accountable? 
Absolutely not.
  Let me tell the Members, besides taking up the surplus, our military 
today, we are retaining only about 23 percent of our military, of our 
enlisted. We are retaining only about 33 percent of our aviators, our 
pilots. Why?
  When I talk to these young men and young women who are flying and the 
people who are servicing those aircraft and that equipment, they say, 
Duke, I am away from my family 8 months out of a year. I am worried 
about my family, because their benefits are eroding. Our equipment is 
1970s technology.
  I had a briefing last Friday from a very classified source, which I 
will not go into, but there is an asset that Russia has in the air that 
if our pilots would engage it, we lose the dogfight and the intercept 
90 percent of the time because we have shut down our research and 
development and we have not been able to compete.
  I am alive today, and the airplanes I shot down in Vietnam, because I 
had better equipment and better training. Today our troops are getting 
less training, and the equipment is 1970s technology. Fortunately, this 
asset has not been deployed to Kosovo, but it is to North Korea, it is 
to many of our other potential enemies in this world. That is scary.
  Our ships are going out with thousands of sailors short. We are $3 
billion short in ship repair for our military ships. I could go on and 
on.
  Madam Speaker, they say, Duke, you have told us all the problems, but 
what would you do if you were president? And no, I am not running for 
the presidency, Madam Speaker. My daughter would like me to because 
then she could have two dogs, but I do not plan ever on running for the 
presidency. I have my hands full right here.
  Let me give some ideas. I stated from the day that we went in to 
Kosovo, and I would start it off first, Madam Speaker, by saying, some 
of the people can remember a movie called the Jazz Singer. I am old 
enough to remember Al Jolson playing in that part. Later on Neal 
Diamond played in the movie Al Jolson.
  The whole movie is based on a Jewish proverb. It is about a jazz 
singer, a gentleman that is the son of a cantor, and the father wants 
his son to be a Jewish cantor. The son, of course, wants to be a jazz 
singer. There is so much hurt by the father that he rips his jacket in 
the Jewish fashion and denies that he has a son, and there is great 
consternation between the two.
  The father, after a while, is so distraught at losing his son, not to 
death but from an argument, and the Jewish proverb goes like this. The 
father cries out, and I have two daughters, so I think you can do the 
same with a daughter, but he says, son, come home. We have argued too 
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replies, father, I cannot, because there is too much between us. And 
the father replies, son, come as far as you can, and I will come the 
rest of the way.
  Sometimes that bridge is too far. If you do not understand and put 
yourself in the shoes, like Jesse Jackson did, and understand, even 
though you may disagree with the perceptions of an individual group, 
you still have to understand that before you can ever come the rest of 
the way.
  The President of the United States has not recognized that. So I 
think that is the first step into any diplomacy. First of all, we have 
to halt the strikes, leave our force in place in case it does not work.
  Let us, instead of having the Russians as a problem and a threat, and 
maybe even going back to communism, let us help the Russians. Let us 
let them be part of the solution, not only in Kosovo but in their own 
political world back in Russia. Let us have Russian and Greek and 
Scandinavian and Italian troops go in and act as the peacekeepers.
  Again, we have to recognize, the Serbs fear the Germans, they fear 
the United States, and they fear Great Britain. We have become an enemy 
to a once ally. Let us let them be the solution. The Greeks the same 
way. They have supported the Serbs. Let us let them be part of the 
solution.
  Milosevic must withdraw his armor prior to Rambouillet, but we have 
to have a different kind of Rambouillet, one that is achievable and 
realistic, with options and realistic and achievable goals, unlike 
Rambouillet I.
  There is going to have to be an international body, Madam Speaker. 
There are nearly 1 million Albanians that have been thrust out of their 
homes. A large portion of those are illegal. They are not citizens of 
Kosovo. But the Serbs have caused part of their own problem by tearing 
up many of those papers that identify who is a citizen and who is not a 
citizen. It is going to take an international body to repatriate the 
Albanians.
  When I was 15 years old I worked on a farm in Shelbina, Missouri, 
population 2,113 folks. Rather than work for my dad, who was a store 
owner, I would go out in the hayfields and put up hay.
  Well, there was a lady named Ms. Featherall that always took care of 
the young boys and fed us probably 10 times the amount that we needed. 
And during the noon hour, we sat on a rocking chair up on her porch to 
get cool. She was afraid we would work too hard, and we loved that 
lady.
  A Siamese cat came around the corner and jumped up in my lap. I 
petted that cat, Madam Speaker. A few minutes later around the corner 
came a Persian cat, a barn cat. I picked up the Persian cat, and 
immediately the two cats tensed and they started hissing, as you can 
imagine.
  I petted them both and they calmed down, and I was going to make 
those cats friends. I moved them a little closer and I moved them a 
little closer. Each time they would tense up and I would pet them. I 
did not have a shirt on, Madam Speaker, and in a split-second, those 
two cats hit each other, and I was blood from head to toe from the 
claws.
  We cannot repatriate Albanians and Serbians together who want to kill 
each other. If you killed my children or my wife or my mother or my 
father or my in-laws, it would take a long time and a whole lot of 
psychologists to sit me down next to the people that I felt had done 
that. It is going to take a long time of work to make that happen.
  Then when you bring them back, are you going to have them stay in 
tents, for those that do not have homes? You have to establish some 
type of security. That is where the peacekeepers of the Russians, the 
Greeks, the Scandinavians, the Italians, are; not NATO.
  The President and Tony Blair are all bent, it has to be NATO, it has 
to be NATO or nothing, it has to be NATO. The ego and prestige of NATO 
is not the issue here, it is people that have been thrown out of their 
homes. It is people that feel that they have been persecuted. That is 
the issue, Madam Speaker; not NATO, not the prestige and ego of Tony 
Blair or the President of the United States.
  That inner body is going to have a difficult time and a long time to 
repatriate those citizens from Albania. The President has to look the 
Albanian president in the eyes and Izetbegovich, the head of the 
Muslims in Sarajevo, and demand that all Middle East fundamentalists be 
deported within 30 days.
  Why? Because if they do not, these mujahedeen and Hamas from Iran and 
Afghanistan and Syria are the ones that want a worldwide Jihad. They 
want to kill all Americans. They are going to stir the pot, they are 
going to cause problems over the next decades. If we allow and the 
President allows them to stay there, even a small number, it is going 
to be a problem.
  I have talked to the Orthodox Catholic Church both of the Serbs and 
the Greek Orthodox Church. I have talked to groups of about 200,000 
Serbian Americans. They support Kosovo remaining a part of greater 
Yugoslavia. But at the same time, they realize there may have to be a 
cantonization of the area, much like the Scandinavian nations do, where 
you might have a separate area where the speech and schools are French 
or German or Swiss. They support that initiative. That may be the first 
start for a new Rambouillet. But in my opinion, if you try and take 
Kosovo away from greater Serbia, it is a no win policy.
  NATO in Europe has to rebuild Kosovo, France, Germany, England, 
Italy, not the United States. We have already spent $14 billion in 6 
weeks. This is a European issue. The United States is part of NATO and 
should have leadership, but we should not pay more than the lion's 
share.
  The United States can use its intelligence services and the number of 
CIA that we have. George Tenet told me that our assets around the world 
that monitor terrorism are extremely limited; that because of Kosovo, 
we have had to pull those assets into Kosovo, which leaves us 
vulnerable in the United States.
  So I feel that our intelligence assets have to be increased greatly, 
and the support that this Congress gives them is necessary.

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  The United Nations, who has become part of the problem in this, votes 
against the United States 90 percent of the time. We only have one vote 
in the United Nations. They vote against this 90 percent of the time, 
and we pay the lion's share of the United Nations again. Until those 
reforms are done, the President should say, ``No more money, United 
Nations.'' In my opinion, I would like to do away with them 
permanently.
  There needs to be an international body. If my colleagues expect 
Milosevic to negotiate, knowing that he is going to go before a war 
tribunal for war crimes, do my colleagues think he is going to ever 
stop? No. But I think an independent body should be established to look 
at Tudjman, the head of the Croatians, that murdered 10,000 Serbs in 
1995 and forced ethnic cleansing out of Croatia of 750,000 Serbs.
  When we talk about Holocaust, that comes much closer to a Holocaust 
than Kosovo. The gentlewoman just before and the gentleman was talking 
about, look at the Kurds. Look at 25 different areas around the world 
that are far worse than this. Are they despicable? Yes. Are they 
Holocaust? No. The spin will not gain the President the Nobel Peace 
Prize.
  Our United States military, we have got to rebuild it. I believe that 
peace does come through strength. Our 300-ship Navy that was 
established by the QDR, which is a report that says this is what we 
need to fight two wars. The bottoms up review for the services, our 
service chief said we cannot fight two wars. Is that why we have left 
the no-fly zone in Iraq? I do not guess Saddam Hussein is a problem 
anymore, because he is left unattended to do his will.
  We need to build up our military, to replace the benefits of our 
military, and give them the strength so that we can walk softly and 
carry a big stick, instead of the President walking softly and carrying 
a big stick of candy for everybody.
  I read this week where the President plans on paying the Albanians 
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house Albanian refugees, paying for that. Are we establishing a welfare 
system in Albania while we cannot support Social Security and Medicare 
and education and medical research in our own country? I think that is 
wrong.
  The President has got to look at the President of Albania and demand 
that, since in 1850 the Albanians have wanted to take over through 
expansionism, Macedonia, Montenegro, parts of Greece and Kosovo, and he 
has got to say no more. We have got to recognize the borders that have 
been formed and stay within them.
  I think that we also need to take a look, and the President, to get 
very tough on the foreign policy of Russia and China. We know that 
Russia today still, even though they say they are not, ships chemical 
and biological weapons and nuclear components to Iran, Iraq, 
Afghanistan, and we let it happen, and to North Korea.
  The President in 1996 was briefed that there was espionage at our 
laboratories here in the United States and did nothing until 1999, 
where the Secretary of Energy has just started to do some things with 
Mike Richardson. He is doing what should have been done back in 1996.
  The President was briefed in 1996 that the Chinese had stole our W-88 
nuclear warhead, which is a small nuclear warhead, which took us 
billions of dollars, billions of dollars to develop and years.
  We have an asset, but I cannot tell my colleagues what it is, where 
we reverse-engineered, that we were going to use that asset. We were 
building a system to combat the asset. Our system would not have 
worked, but we had that asset, so it saved us billions of dollars by 
having that asset and seeing how it worked so that we did not go the 
wrong direction.
  Now the Chinese have got not only the W-88 warhead, but they have got 
secondary and tertiary missile boosts, which they did not have the 
capability to do.
  George Tennet told us that Korea was 10 years away from being able to 
hit the United States with a missile, a nuclear missile. Guess what. 
They have it today with a Taepo Dong 1 and Taepo Dong 2 that China gave 
to them that we gave to the Chinese and they are exporting.
  If that is not bad enough, the capability to MIRV, to put several of 
those W-88, and the President knew that China had these, the White 
House gave them the capability to use the MIRVing techniques that, 
again, took us billions of dollars to engineer.
  If that is not bad, the targeting methods to use those missiles to 
make them accurate within a meter, a nuclear weapon. That was done 
after $1 million was donated by Loral and $1 million from Hughes and 
$300,000 from Liu Cheng Ying, who is the daughter of General Ying, head 
of technology in the PLA, to the Clinton-Gore campaign.
  So, Madam Speaker, we have a monumental foreign policy problem. It is 
not just Kosovo. It is Russia. It is Greece. It is Libya. It is Kosovo. 
I feel that we need to chase the Turks out of Northern Cyprus, which 
they have held illegally for 25 years, and we have done nothing, 
because we need the Turk's support. But, yet, we let them stay in 
Northern Cyprus against international law.
  Madam Speaker, it grieves me to see our Nation at war, especially 
when I think that we do not have to be there. From all of my military 
experience, to see a war run ad hoc and so desperately misused, it has 
cost human life, it has cost human suffering, and it is going to 
prevent many of us on both sides of the aisle from doing some of the 
things that we want with our domestic issues here in the United States 
such as Social Security, Medicare, education, medical research and 
defense.
  It is not a pretty time, Madam Speaker. The President has got to get 
off his pulpit, whatever his agenda is, and he has got to recognize and 
put himself, as Jesse Jackson recommended to the President, to see both 
sides of this issue, to come, whether he has to admit defeat or have a 
small victory and declare a victory, I do not care, but we cannot put 
ground troops in, because even if we put ground troops into Kosovo, we 
are going to lose people.
  The Chetnik type individuals, the guerillas will kill our people. I 
feel that the KLA, Mujahedin and Hamas will kill our people and blame 
it on somebody just to keep the pot going. Then if we do, we have just 
bought Kosovo for $3 billion to $5 billion a year, when we are already 
in Bosnia at $16 billion and Haiti. We are still in Korea for 25 years.
  It is time to get out, Madam Speaker. It is time to build up the 
United States, to pay down our debt, and to take care of some of our 
domestic problems here.

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