[Congressional Record Volume 172, Number 66 (Wednesday, April 15, 2026)]
[House]
[Pages H2902-H2909]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




    FOREIGN EMISSIONS AND NONATTAINMENT CLARIFICATION FOR ECONOMIC 
                             STABILITY ACT

  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 1174, I call up 
the bill (H.R. 6409) to amend the Clean Air Act to clarify standards 
for emissions emanating from outside of the United States, and for 
other purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 1174, the bill 
is considered read.
  The text of the bill is as follows:

                               H.R. 6409

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Foreign Emissions and 
     Nonattainment Clarification for Economic Stability Act'' or 
     the ``FENCES Act''.

     SEC. 2. EMISSIONS BEYOND CONTROL.

       (a) Clarification of Emissions Covered.--Section 179B of 
     the Clean Air Act (42 U.S.C. 7509a) is amended--
       (1) by inserting ``(regardless of whether such emissions 
     result from human activity)'' after ``but for emissions 
     emanating from outside of the United States'' each place it 
     appears; and
       (2) in subsection (d), by inserting ``(regardless of 
     whether such emissions result from human activity)'' after 
     ``but for emissions emanating from outside the United 
     States''.
       (b) Designations.--Section 179B of the Clean Air Act (42 
     U.S.C. 7509a) is further amended by adding at the end the 
     following:
       ``(e) Designations.--Notwithstanding any other provision of 
     law, an area within a State may not be designated as a 
     nonattainment area with respect to any new or revised primary 
     or secondary national ambient air quality standard for a 
     pollutant if such State establishes to the satisfaction of 
     the Administrator that such area would be in attainment with 
     such national ambient air quality standard for such pollutant 
     but for emissions emanating from outside of the United States 
     (regardless of whether such emissions result from human 
     activity).''.
       (c) Applicability of Sanctions and Fees if Emissions Beyond 
     Control.--The Clean Air Act (42 U.S.C. 7401 et seq.) is 
     amended by inserting after section 179B the following new 
     section:

     ``SEC. 179C. APPLICABILITY OF SANCTIONS AND FEES IF EMISSIONS 
                   BEYOND CONTROL.

       ``(a) In General.--Notwithstanding any other provision of 
     this Act, with respect to any nonattainment area that is 
     classified under section 181 as a Severe Area or an Extreme 
     Area for ozone or under section 188 as a Serious Area for 
     particulate matter, no sanction or fee under section 179 or 
     185 shall apply with respect to a State (or an area or source 
     therein) on the basis of a deficiency described in section 
     179(a), or the failure to attain a national ambient air 
     quality standard for ozone or particulate matter by the 
     applicable attainment date, if the State demonstrates that 
     the State would have avoided such deficiency, or such 
     standard would have been attained, but for one or more of the 
     following:
       ``(1) Emissions emanating from outside the nonattainment 
     area.

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       ``(2) Emissions from an exceptional event (as defined in 
     section 319(b)(1)).
       ``(3) Emissions from mobile sources to the extent the State 
     demonstrates that--
       ``(A) such emissions are beyond the control of the State to 
     reduce or eliminate; and
       ``(B) the State is fully implementing such measures as are 
     within the authority of the State to control emissions from 
     the mobile sources.
       ``(b) No Effect on Underlying Standards.--The 
     inapplicability of sanctions or fees with respect to a State 
     (or an area or source therein) pursuant to subsection (a) 
     does not affect the obligation of a State, area, source, or 
     other entity under other provisions of this Act to establish 
     and implement measures to attain a national ambient air 
     quality standard for ozone or particulate matter.
       ``(c) Periodic Renewal of Demonstration.--For subsection 
     (a) to continue to apply with respect to a State (or an area 
     or source therein), the State involved shall renew the 
     demonstration required by subsection (a) at least once every 
     5 years.''.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The bill shall be debatable for 1 hour 
equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member 
of the Committee on Energy and Commerce or their respective designees.
  The gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Palmer) and the gentleman from New 
Jersey (Mr. Pallone) each will control 30 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Palmer).


                             General Leave

  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may 
have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks on the 
legislation and to include extraneous material on H.R. 6409.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Alabama?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act, 
which addresses the need for commonsense reforms on how emissions 
impact our Nation's ability to support domestic manufacturing and 
unleash affordable and reliable energy.
  For far too long, burdensome regulations have stood in the way, 
allowing investments to go overseas while Americans are forced to pay 
higher prices. Many of these costly regulations result from regulatory 
burdens associated with the Clean Air Act.
  The legislation considered today makes targeted and effective reforms 
that will support American job creators while continuing to protect our 
environment and the air we breathe.
  The legislation produced by my colleague Congressman August Pfluger 
of Texas ensures that States and local communities are not penalized 
for foreign air emissions emanating from outside our borders. Across 
the country, States are being unfairly penalized for pollution that 
originates from foreign nations, including air emissions from natural 
events, like the Canadian wildfires.
  Currently, the Clean Air Act allows States to adjust their plans when 
foreign emissions prevent them from meeting Federal standards. However, 
the guidance from the EPA under the previous administration narrowed 
that relief, limiting it to only human-caused emissions from abroad.
  This bill clarifies that all foreign emissions, whether natural or 
man-made, are excluded from consideration when determining whether a 
State meets national air quality standards.
  Importantly, the bill allows States to account for foreign emissions 
earlier in the regulatory process, instead of forcing them to wait 
until the very end and risk costly delays or Federal sanctions.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge all of my colleagues to join me in supporting 
these bills, and I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act.
  Access to quality and affordable healthcare is an issue at the top of 
many Americans' minds right now as they struggle through the ever-
worsening Republican affordability crisis. Republicans have 
demonstrated over the last year that they have no interest in improving 
healthcare for the American people.
  The Republican big, ugly bill cut more than a trillion dollars from 
Americans' healthcare. Insurance premiums spiked at the beginning of 
the year for 20 million people because Republicans refused to extend 
the ACA tax credits. Fifteen million people are predicted to lose their 
healthcare altogether. Hospitals are closing in record numbers around 
the country.
  There was a media report just yesterday that said 15 hospitals in my 
State of New Jersey have the potential to close because of the 
Republican big, ugly bill and the impact on hospitals.
  Now, there are reports that Republicans intend to make further cuts 
and take healthcare away from more people to pay for Trump's reckless 
war of choice with Iran. In Trump's America, we can't afford 
healthcare, but apparently, we can spend a billion dollars a day on the 
war in Iran. In fact, Trump himself said that it is not possible for 
the Federal Government to pay for Medicaid and Medicare when we are 
fighting wars.
  Republican attacks on Americans' healthcare continue this week here 
on the House floor by bringing three dirty air bills to the House 
floor, including this bill, H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act; and also H.R. 
6398, the RED Tape Act; and, finally, H.R. 6387, the FIRE Act.
  These bills are an attack on the public health protections that are a 
cornerstone of the Clean Air Act. They will ultimately make Americans 
sicker and increase healthcare costs even more.
  The health harms of air pollution are well-documented, being felt by 
communities across the country. Communities in areas with unsafe levels 
of air pollution see more diagnoses of diseases like asthma, COPD, 
heart disease, and certain types of cancer, all of which require long-
term treatment and medication.
  Air pollution, Mr. Speaker, is also responsible for over 100,000 
premature deaths every year. It is ridiculous to even consider these 
bills when our constituents are demanding action on healthcare 
affordability.
  Whether it is from reducing transparency, to artificially reducing 
air pollution reporting by ignoring climate change, to giving corporate 
polluters free passes on Clean Air Act requirements, these bills are 
evidence that Republicans are more interested in helping their 
pollution friends than the well-being of Americans.
  The bill that we are talking about now, the FENCES Act, would 
undercut the National Ambient Air Quality Standards, or NAAQS, which 
tells us the amount of air pollution that is safe to breathe.

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  The bill would have us ignore bad air quality in areas that 
experience any pollution beyond the jurisdiction of a State or city's 
borders. It removes the Environmental Protection Agency's ability to 
impose fees or sanctions on States that fail to make progress toward 
cleaning up the air.
  Let me just explain this. If my hometown of Long Branch or my county 
of Monmouth or my State of New Jersey was getting pollution from 
outside that particular jurisdiction, it wouldn't count. They wouldn't 
have to account for that in terms of dealing with air pollution and 
trying to reduce it. To me, that is patently ridiculous because we know 
that air pollution travels across cities, across States, and even 
across countries. Giving States that are not even trying to improve air 
quality a free pass for pollution without any incentive to fix the 
problem is not the right way to proceed, and that is what this bill 
does.
  If signed into law, this bill would require EPA to cook the books on 
air pollution in favor of industry, removing all accountability for 
States to clean up air pollution and leaving millions of Americans to 
breathe unhealthy air. The only winners here are corporate polluters 
who would get to save a few dollars in compliance costs.
  Now Republican attempts to undermine the NAAQS aren't new. Every time 
the EPA strengthens an air quality standard, opponents complain that 
stronger public health standards will limit economic growth, but that 
has never been true, Mr. Speaker. Every time, industry has innovated 
better pollution control measures to meet the new standards.
  Republicans also claim that the FENCES Act is part of their 
permitting reform effort, but this bill would not speed up any 
permitting. In fact, it

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would cause complete permitting gridlock in areas with pollution that 
exceeds an air quality standard. This is not permitting reform.
  House Republicans are trying to use accounting gimmicks to make areas 
with poor air quality appear much better to benefit corporate polluters 
at the expense of the health of Americans across the country. Pushing 
the FENCES Act at a moment when millions of Americans are struggling to 
afford their utilities, their groceries, and healthcare, in my opinion, 
is unconscionable.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this bill, and I 
reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, it is always interesting to me to hear my Democratic 
colleagues talk about where Republicans are on healthcare when, in 
fact, it was Republicans who initiated the $50 billion Rural Health 
Transformation Fund that every Democrat voted against.
  As a matter of fact, just this year, the State of New Jersey is going 
to get $147,250,806 from the Rural Health Transformation Fund. I think 
that is a pretty good investment in trying to improve healthcare for 
people all over the country.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. 
Pfluger), the sponsor of the bill.
  Mr. PFLUGER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of my bill, the Foreign 
Emissions and Nonattainment Clarification for Economic Stability Act, 
also known as the FENCES Act.
  States and communities are being pushed into nonattainment because of 
pollution that they don't control and they can't prevent. As was just 
mentioned by my colleague from New Jersey who said that we can't 
control pollution across borders, that is right. That is why we have to 
come up with this bill.
  Smoke from Canadian wildfires, emissions drifting across our southern 
border, and other foreign sources can overwhelm local air quality 
readings even when the States are fully compliant and acting in good 
faith.
  Congress has long recognized this reality. That is why the Clean Air 
Act allows States to account for foreign emissions when those emissions 
interfere with attainment, but that balance was disrupted when EPA 
guidance under the Biden administration sharply narrowed what counts as 
foreign emissions, limiting relief to certain human-caused sources 
while excluding events like wildfires. That distinction was arbitrary 
and unworkable. States cannot regulate another country, and they 
certainly cannot regulate natural disasters.
  The FENCES Act corrects that mistake. In fact, let me change that 
phrasing. The FENCES Act corrects that overreach by the previous 
administration. It clarifies that all foreign emissions, whether 
natural or human caused, must be excluded when the EPA makes 
nonattainment determinations or reviews new source permits. Just as 
important, the bill allows States to raise these issues earlier in the 
process rather than years after the planning and investment have 
happened when the consequences are most severe.
  Those consequences are significant. Nonattainment designations impose 
substantial regulatory burdens on States, communities, energy 
producers, and manufacturers. They trigger stricter permitting 
requirements, delay infrastructure projects, and raise the costs for 
businesses trying to expand or hire. For energy producers, it means 
slower approvals for drilling and processing. For manufacturers, it 
means uncertainty around whether a project will even move forward. For 
local communities, it means fewer jobs and less investment, even when 
they have done everything right to comply with the law.
  The issue is not theoretical. In my area, the Permian Basin, we saw 
how even the possibility, the threatening of a nonattainment 
designation can create uncertainty. That uncertainty affects permitting 
timelines, capital planning, and long-term investment decisions for 
both producers and local communities. Companies begin to question 
whether new jobs will face delays or additional requirements, and local 
leaders are left planning around an unclear regulatory future. When the 
stakes are that high, EPA needs to get the analysis right. That is the 
way the law was written, and this bill gets us back to that intent.
  It was said that this bill favors the dirty production in 
manufacturing and lowers the air quality. No, it actually holds our 
communities accountable. It holds them accountable, the communities 
that we care about domestically that should be held accountable, but 
shouldn't be penalized for cities in Mexico or wildfires that are 
happening in Canada or other foreign sources that they don't control. 
That is what this bill does.
  When the Supreme Court decided on the Loper Bright case, that is the 
Chevron deference case, this is the decision they had in mind because 
the Biden administration overreached so often and so critically.
  This bill is a targeted, commonsense measure that does not change air 
quality standards. In fact, it actually enforces them more accurately 
within our local communities, and it makes a narrow adjustment to 
ensure that compliance determinations are fair by excluding foreign 
emissions from EPA nonattainment designations.
  American workers and businesses should not face regulatory penalties 
for pollution originating outside our borders or for uncontrollable 
natural events. I urge my colleagues to think about a commonsense 
solution and to get back to the intent of the law, which is exactly 
what the FENCES Act does.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes.''
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from New 
York (Mr. Tonko), the ranking member of our Environment Subcommittee.
  Mr. TONKO. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New Jersey for 
yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, when we debated this bill in committee, I was reminded 
of the environmental history of the Adirondack Mountains, which are 
located just to the north of my district in upstate New York. The 
Adirondacks are known for their beauty as well as the ecological damage 
they suffered from acid rain.
  That acid rain was caused by polluting power plants in the Midwest, 
and that pollution didn't stop in upstate New York. It also harmed 
people and the environment in eastern Canada. The international 
pressure brought by the Canadian Government helped motivate the Bush 
administration and Congress to enact the 1990 Clean Air Act amendments, 
which included a program to control sources of acid rain pollution.
  In that case, American industries were the polluters, but it 
demonstrates how international cooperation in pursuit of our common 
environmental goals is, indeed, possible.
  States and counties burdened by foreign pollution sources should be 
able to rely upon their Federal Government to address these issues 
through bilateral discussions with the polluting country. We should be 
able to have a bipartisan consensus in Congress that we would like our 
environmental and diplomatic efforts to prioritize these issues in our 
international relations.
  Of course, it should be a national imperative that we collectively 
demand polluters in Mexico, China, or any other country that may be 
proven to be contributing to an area's nonattainment of a Clean Air Act 
standard, to do something to control their pollution.
  I understand that States and counties may be frustrated by pollution 
sources from outside their jurisdiction, but the lungs of the people 
living and working in those areas don't care from whence that pollution 
originated. It affects their health all the same.
  I don't think the answer can be to simply ignore the problem of 
Americans breathing unsafe levels of air pollution. States and local 
air agencies should continue to work with EPA to find ways to better 
protect people by also allowing for opportunities to prove when 
emissions originate from outside their borders.
  Thankfully, that is already how the Clean Air Act works, making this 
bill unnecessary. Section 179B of the Clean Air Act currently gives 
States that opportunity to prove emissions came from an international 
source and provides regulatory relief when an area would have otherwise 
achieved the National Ambient Air Quality Standard.

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  Instead, this bill allows States to completely ignore international 
pollution in their State implementation plans, and it provides free 
passes on pollution that comes from outside the area, from exceptional 
events, and from mobile-source pollution.
  The bill blocks EPA's ability to impose sanctions on States that fail 
to make progress toward reducing air pollution, including States that 
are not even trying to improve air quality.
  Mr. Speaker, I agree that we should be working to better protect our 
constituents from having to breathe pollution from foreign sources, but 
pretending that pollution doesn't exist simply cannot be the answer.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge Members to oppose this bill.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Valadao), a distinguished Member.
  Mr. VALADAO. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to urge support for the FENCES 
Act, a commonsense bill that brings fairness and clarity to how we 
evaluate air quality in the United States.
  In California, our communities are already working hard to meet some 
of the most stringent environmental standards in the country. Yet, too 
often, they are penalized for factors completely outside of their 
control, like pollution or wildfire smoke that comes from outside our 
borders.
  The FENCES Act clarifies that emissions coming from other countries, 
whether caused by human activity or natural events, cannot be used to 
determine whether a State is meeting Federal air quality standards. The 
bill also strengthens existing law under the Clean Air Act by allowing 
States to account for foreign emissions earlier in the process rather 
than waiting until final stages of their State implementation plans. 
For California, wherein nonattainment designations can have serious 
economic consequences, reliability is important.
  Right now, businesses across Central Valley and across our State face 
significant permitting delays and regulatory uncertainty. I hear from 
small businesses all the time who want to invest and hire in our 
region, but they are stuck navigating a system that doesn't reflect 
today's global realities.
  In some cases, these challenges actually push investment overseas to 
countries with much weaker environmental standards, which ultimately 
undermines the very goal that we are trying to achieve here in the 
United States. I think we can all agree that we want our communities to 
be healthy while also providing opportunities for economic investment.
  The FENCES Act helps to provide a level playing field by providing 
regulatory clarity, streamlining the permitting process, and giving 
States like California a fair shot at compliance, while still 
maintaining our commitment to clean air.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this legislation, which 
strikes the balance between reasonable environmental standards and 
allowing industry to invest in America to help build our economy and 
create jobs.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from 
Ohio (Mr. Landsman), a member of our committee.
  Mr. LANDSMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member, Mr. Pallone, 
for yielding to me.
  Mr. Speaker, America is in the middle of a healthcare crisis. More 
and more Americans can't afford their healthcare. They just can't pay 
for it. Hospitals are cutting back services. Many of them are closing 
their doors.
  Then, Trump and congressional Republicans made things much worse when 
they spent trillions of dollars on tax cuts that mostly benefited the 
wealthy. To pay for it, they kicked about 15 million Americans off of 
their health insurance, a cut of approximately $1 trillion to 
healthcare for tax cuts for the wealthy.
  Then, they refused to give 24 million Americans a break on buying 
healthcare, and now this. This week, congressional Republicans are 
bringing three bills to the floor that will make it harder for people 
to breathe.
  One of those bills, the so-called FENCES Act, directs the EPA to use 
accounting gimmicks that will allow industries to pollute our air 
without consequences. It is an air pollution bill.
  This bill will make Americans sicker while Trump and congressional 
Republicans have cut healthcare for millions of Americans. Congress 
should be focused entirely on expanding healthcare and protecting our 
air and water. Fortunately, the Senate won't take these bills up, and 
they are not going anywhere.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, again, my colleagues on the other side of 
the aisle want to talk about Republican positions on healthcare. I will 
remind them again that, in particular, the State of Ohio received 
$202,030,262 from the Rural Health Transformation Fund that every 
Democrat voted against. I remind my colleagues that the Republicans 
have made a major investment in healthcare.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman 
from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie), the chairman of the full committee.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman from Alabama for 
yielding, and I appreciate his hard work going into the Rural 
Transformation Healthcare Fund that was in the One Big Beautiful Bill 
Act. The gentleman originated the idea, and we certainly appreciate his 
hard work on that.
  Today, I rise to support H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act; H.R. 6398, the 
RED Tape Act; and H.R. 6387, the FIRE Act.
  These three bills are an essential part of the committee's broader 
efforts on permitting reform and aligned with the White House 
permitting priorities, which include modernizing the Clean Air Act.
  A lot has changed since 1990, the last time that the Clean Air Act 
got a substantial overhaul. Some parts of the law have become outdated, 
contributing to the regulatory gridlock that is stifling American 
growth and innovation.
  A lot has changed since 1990, the last time the Clean Air Act got a 
substantial overhaul, and some parts of the law have become outdated, 
contributing also to more gridlock.

  These bills are foundational to our permitting reform efforts because 
they illustrate ways that we protect public health and the environment 
while removing outdated provisions that are slowing energy production 
and manufacturing, ultimately preventing job creation.
  The Energy and Commerce Committee has held multiple hearings this 
Congress on the process for establishing and implementing national air 
quality standards and improving the preconstruction permitting program 
without sacrificing environmental protections. Some of the most 
expensive and significant barriers in the permitting process are the 
result of the law's outdated provisions.
  What is worse, these burdensome requirements fail to address the most 
significant sources of pollution and create disincentives for companies 
to invest in cost-efficient and effective technology that would 
actually improve air quality.
  In the U.S., it takes 80 percent longer to permit projects than 
elsewhere in the world. America's outdated permitting system costs 
manufacturers in the U.S. approximately $7.9 billion each year. While a 
reasonable level of permitting is, of course, needed, without 
commonsense reforms, our Nation risks falling behind our adversaries, 
like China.
  Notably, over 70 percent of projects require Clean Air Act permits, 
which have the most burdensome approval process of any permitting 
requirement. Notably, over 70 percent of projects require these 
permits, and these three bills remove regulatory uncertainty and 
bureaucratic hoops that impact what and where job creators build new 
businesses, but they do not change the underlying environmental 
protections in the law.
  The FENCES Act introduced by Congressman Pfluger ensures that States 
and local communities are not penalized for foreign air emissions 
emanating from outside of the U.S. The FENCES Act clarifies that all 
foreign emissions, whether natural or manmade, are not considered when 
determining whether a State meets national air quality standards.
  The FENCES Act protects manufacturers and communities from 
unnecessary compliance burdens caused by events beyond their control, 
such as pollution from China, foreign wildfires,

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or dust storms, while upholding environmental standards under the Clean 
Air Act.
  The RED Tape Act, introduced by Congressman Joyce, eliminates a 
duplicative environmental review for projects already subject to NEPA 
environmental review. The duplicative process leads to additional 
delays and costs in the NEPA process.
  The FIRE Act, introduced by Congressman Gabe Evans and co-led by 
Congressman Adam Gray, updates the Clean Air Act to address the biggest 
threat in air pollution that this country faces today: wildfires. 
Bipartisan legislation ensures that States are not punished for 
prescribed burns or emissions that they cannot control.
  Prescribed burns are the most effective tool to decrease the severity 
of wildfires and public health problems associated with wildfire smoke. 
Despite the widespread acceptance of benefits of prescribed burns, they 
are underutilized across the U.S. due to perverse regulatory burdens 
under current air quality laws.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting H.R. 6409, 
the FENCES Act; H.R. 6398, the RED Tape Act; and H.R. 6387, the FIRE 
Act. These bills provide commonsense solutions and long-needed updates 
to the Clean Air Act.

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  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Texas (Mr. Menefee).
  Mr. MENEFEE. Mr. Speaker, I thank Representative Pallone for yielding 
me time.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition of the FENCES Act.
  My colleagues on the other side of the aisle talk about protecting 
public health and the environment and without sacrificing environmental 
protection in this country, but I want to point out that it is this 
administration currently in office that has eviscerated the EPA. Time 
after time, we have seen these bills filed that are intended to weaken 
our environmental protection.
  Let me be clear about what the FENCES Act actually does. It weakens 
the Clean Air Act. It removes the EPA's ability to hold States 
accountable when they fail to reduce air pollution, and it gives 
polluters a free pass in communities that can least afford it.
  I represent Houston, Texas. In my district, environmental justice is 
not a talking point; it is a reality that people wake up to each and 
every day.
  We have communities that have some of the highest concentrations of 
industrial pollution in the entire country: communities with more than 
five polluting facilities in a 2-mile radius, cancer clusters, high 
rates of lung disease and heart disease, lower life expectancies, 
children and seniors breathing in some of the most contaminated air in 
America.
  These communities don't need us here in Washington making it worse. I 
know firsthand what happens when you take the pressure off of State 
environmental regulators.
  Before I came to Congress, I served as the chief legal officer for 
Harris County, the largest county in Texas. I watched the State's 
environmental regulators look the other way when pollution ran rampant 
in underserved communities.
  They sat on cancer clusters. They let polluting facilities 
concentrate in neighborhoods that had no political power to fight back, 
and they handed passes to industry while residents got sick. I had to 
sue them to get them to act, but that is not how our government should 
work.
  The Federal Government has to hold these folks accountable when they 
put industry over people and put our communities' health at risk, but 
this bill would add yet another obstacle to holding those in power 
accountable.
  Here is what the FENCES Act actually does. Under current law, States 
already get credit when pollution blows in from other countries or from 
out of State. They are not penalized for pollution that they cannot 
control. That protection exists today.
  This bill doesn't fix a gap. It tears open a new one. It expands that 
exemption so broadly that States can point to foreign pollution as a 
reason to stop making progress on air quality altogether.
  It removes the EPA's ability to hold them accountable. It is a built-
in excuse to look the other way. State regulators and polluters both 
know exactly how to exploit it, and they will.
  That is why I tried to change this bill by submitting an amendment. 
It said one simple thing: that before this law takes effect, the 
Secretary of Health and Human Services must certify that the impacts 
will not harm children and the elderly. That is it. Prove that this is 
safe for our kids and our seniors before it takes effect.
  My colleagues on the other side of the aisle blocked it. They would 
not allow that vote. They couldn't say yes to that because this bill 
was never about clean air. It is about giving corporate polluters cover 
while the people in our districts pay with their health.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Kennedy of Utah). The time of the 
gentleman has expired.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield an additional 2 minutes to the 
gentleman from Texas.
  Mr. MENEFEE. Over 100 million Americans already live in counties with 
unhealthy air quality. Air pollution contributes to more than 100,000 
premature deaths in this country each and every year. The people in our 
communities are not abstractions. They are already on the wrong side of 
these numbers.
  This body lets pollution run rampant as our communities see poison in 
the wind that blows and wonder ``Where did all the blue skies go?''
  We should be standing up to make sure that every single person in our 
communities has clean land, clean air, and clean water, regardless of 
their ZIP Code or socioeconomic status.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the FENCES Act.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman bringing up the 
situation that people in rural America find themselves in. What we 
tried to do with the One Big Beautiful Bill Act with the Rural Health 
Transformation Fund was meet a lot of those needs. The State of Texas 
got more money than any other State, $281,319,361, to try to improve 
healthcare opportunities for people who live in disadvantaged areas. 
What we are also trying to do is improve those conditions, to give 
people an opportunity to have a better job, to have better options in 
food, and have better healthcare options, as well. That is a big part 
of what we are trying to do with the modernization of the Clean Air Act 
and these bills that we bring before the House today.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. 
Ciscomani).
  Mr. CISCOMANI. Mr. Speaker, I thank Mr. Palmer for yielding me time 
to speak in support of H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act.
  This commonsense legislation ensures that American communities and 
manufacturers are not penalized for pollution that they cannot control. 
Emissions from foreign countries, wildfires, and dust storms should not 
determine whether our States meet Federal air quality standards.
  The FENCES Act restores the original intent of the Clean Air Act by 
clarifying that foreign emissions, whether natural or man-made, are 
excluded from compliance determinations and permitting decisions. It 
also allows States to account for these emissions earlier in the 
regulatory process, providing certainty and preventing costly delays.

  For border communities like those that I represent in southern 
Arizona, this is about fairness. Our districts should not face economic 
penalties for pollution originating beyond our own borders.
  The FENCES Act strengthens regulatory certainty, supports American 
jobs, and upholds our Nation's environmental standards. It is also 
widely supported by the business community and will ensure we are 
creating an environment in which industry can thrive.
  I strongly believe that when we manufacture here in America, we do it 
better and cleaner than anywhere else in the world, and this 
legislation is essential in supporting American innovation and 
excellence across a wide variety of sectors, from mining to chips 
manufacturing.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this important 
legislation.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from 
Oregon (Ms. Dexter).
  Ms. DEXTER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague from New Jersey for 
yielding me time.

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  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong and vehement opposition to these 
bills, specifically the FENCES Act, that gut the Clean Air Act's core 
public health protections.
  Before the Clean Air Act was passed in 1970, pollution choked 
American cities. It blanketed entire communities in a toxic haze so 
thick that residents were reported to believe they were under chemical 
attack.
  In Los Angeles, people had smog-burned eyes and seared lungs. In my 
hometown of Portland, an industrial hub, smokestacks filled the skies 
with black plumes. Children walked to school clutching handkerchiefs 
over their faces. Drivers crashed on the highway because they couldn't 
see more than a few feet ahead. Families were scared. They were sick, 
and they were desperate for change.
  That is the reality my Republican colleagues are now trying to drag 
us back to. The National Ambient Air Quality Standards are one of the 
most important tools we have to protect health. They set limits on 
dangerous pollution and ensure communities know when the air they 
breathe is unsafe. These bills would undermine those standards, 
allowing States to sidestep them and leave the public in the dark about 
real health risks.
  As a lung doctor, I know exactly what that means. It means more 
asthma attacks, more heart attacks, more strokes, more cancer 
diagnoses, and more children in the ER.
  We have seen this play out time and time again, and today, I cannot 
help but wonder when are we going to learn our lesson.
  In places like Cancer Alley, families wake up every day knowing the 
air they breathe is making them sick. Communities are living with 
higher rates of cancer, respiratory illness, and premature death--real 
people, real families bearing the cost of decisions made right here.
  It is not just one place. Across the country, in communities living 
near the major sources of pollution, we see the same pattern. When 
standards are weakened and accountability disappears, people pay with 
their health.
  This is not what the people of Oregon sent me here to do. They sent 
me here to fight for healthy communities, for clean air, for safe 
water, and a better future for our children.
  I will not sit silently while this body rolls back lifesaving 
protections that have put polluters on watch. I urge my colleagues to 
reject these bills. Our children are watching. History is watching, and 
the air we breathe is on the line.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Arizona (Mr. Biggs).
  Mr. BIGGS of Arizona. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for 
yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of H.R. 6409, the FENCES Act.
  Washington has ignored a simple fact that every Arizonan knows 
firsthand. Eighty percent of the air pollution in Maricopa County, 
Arizona's largest county, with a population of approximately 5.5 
million people, is caused by natural phenomena or international 
transport.
  Wildfire smoke from California, Canada, and Mexico, dust storms 
across the desert, and emissions drifting in from China and Mexico are 
all outside our control. Yet Arizona was penalized with stricter 
Federal mandates, threatening jobs and growth in one of the fastest 
growing regions in America.
  That makes no sense because Arizona--and Maricopa County 
specifically--is home to economic and technological development that 
will better the lives of Arizonans and Americans nationwide.

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  From semiconductor manufacturing to aerospace and national defense 
facilities, Arizona is building the industries that keep America 
competitive.
  These employers depend on fair, predictable permitting, not rules 
that punish us for pollution blowing in from another country.
  Arizona's leaders have invested in real outreach and compliance tools 
that have cut controllable emissions by 50 percent since 2000, but no 
State should be forced to impose more regulations on families and small 
businesses for pollution that they did not cause nor can they remedy. 
That is exactly where the FENCES Act is necessary.
  The FENCES Act restores the original intent of the Clean Air Act by 
making clear that all foreign emissions, natural or man-made, are 
excluded when EPA conducts air quality reviews.
  Democrats would continue to penalize States like Arizona for these 
uncontrollable sources. Democrats want to continue to impose costly 
delays, Federal sanctions, and unnecessary burdens on manufacturers, 
communities, and States.
  Earlier this year, President Trump and EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin 
recognized the impact of these onerous rules and stopped their negative 
effects in Maricopa County, but no State should have to rely on the 
unpredictability and capriciousness of any administration.
  Congress must act so that no future EPA can arbitrarily punish 
Arizona or any State for emissions beyond our borders.
  The FENCES Act is grounded in sound science and common sense. It 
protects jobs, supports investment, and ensures environmental rules 
focus on what States can actually control.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the FENCES Act. Let's 
pass it today.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Min).
  Mr. MIN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to H.R. 6409, 
the FENCES Act, which would gut the Clean Air Act.
  For over 60 years, the Clean Air Act has stood as our Nation's 
landmark air pollution law, serving as our most effective tool to try 
to keep the air that our children and families breathe safe and to hold 
polluters accountable.
  Despite this achievement, we still have more than 100,000 people 
prematurely dying in the United States every year because of air 
pollution. That is simply unacceptable.
  We should be building on the progress of the Clean Air Act, not 
gutting it. We should be decarbonizing transportation, regulating 
carbon emissions, acknowledging that climate change is happening and 
that the science is real, and trying to improve air quality and reduce 
the climate trends that we are seeing that are so alarming. Instead, we 
are debating another bill that would give yet another free pass to 
corporations and billionaires at the expense of working families.
  I understand my colleagues across the aisle are debating right now, 
and will introduce later today, a bill to rename the big, ugly bill to 
something maybe more palatable to the masses. They are doing that 
because the big, ugly bill is so unpopular right now that they are 
trying to run away from it as fast as possible.
  I have a news flash for y'all. It is not the name that is the 
problem. It is the substance of the bill that helps, again, the Epstein 
elites that y'all are protecting so hard. It does so at the expense of 
the working class--in this case, with the FENCES Act gutting the Clean 
Air Act and polluting our air and water.
  The bill before us today is yet another attack on the Clean Air Act 
that we cannot afford. The FENCES Act would pave the way for States to 
avoid their responsibility to improve air quality and protect public 
health by claiming air pollution in their State as a foreign source.
  This bill is completely unnecessary because, under current law, 
States are not penalized for pollution they can't control, such as from 
foreign sources or other States. This is a solution in search of a 
problem.
  It is important to remember that air pollution doesn't vanish when we 
don't see it. It moves across national borders and has deadly impacts 
on Americans here at home.
  As a reminder, not too long ago, in the 1960s and 1970s, Los Angeles, 
just up the 405 from where I live in Orange County, was one of the most 
polluted cities in the world, with smog so pervasive that people 
reported burning eyes and extremely low visibility.
  Because of landmark laws like the Clean Air Act and efforts by State 
and local governments, air pollution in Los Angeles has been 
significantly reduced, driving down chronic health impacts and having 
notable and statistically proven quality-of-life improvements for 
millions of Californians in southern California.

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  For these reasons, at the appropriate time, I plan to offer a motion 
to recommit this bill back to committee. If the House rules permitted, 
I would have offered the motion with an important amendment to this 
bill.
  My amendment would ensure that this bill does not go into effect 
until the EPA and Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee certify that 
the act will not increase health harms or the costs associated with 
treating those harms.
  Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to insert the text of my 
amendment into the Record immediately prior to the vote on the motion 
to recommit.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from California?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. MIN. Mr. Speaker, I hope my colleagues will join me in voting for 
the motion to recommit.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I don't think we want to follow the 
California model for America's economic future, with their high energy 
prices, the highest poverty rate in the country, and destructive 
economic policies driving businesses out of the State.

  I think with Republicans' policies, it is very clear that we have the 
best interests of the people at heart.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Idaho (Mr. 
Fulcher).
  Mr. FULCHER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 6409, the FENCES 
Act. I thank my good friend from Alabama for holding this debate.
  You may not think of my home State of Idaho as a border State when 
you start thinking about border States, but Idaho is a border State. We 
share an international border with Canada in the northern panhandle of 
the State of Idaho.
  There is a lot of timber on both sides of that borderline. Especially 
in a dry year like this--and this is going to be a dry year for us--it 
is not uncommon to have wildfire break out on one side or the other. It 
has happened many times before. Unfortunately, it will probably happen 
again, where, on the Canadian side, a wildfire breaks out.
  Oftentimes, that smoke, those pollutants, blow right over the border, 
and there is absolutely nothing that the State of Idaho can do with 
that. Sometimes, we share some firefighting resources, but the bottom 
line is that it didn't break out in our forest.
  It is true that the Clean Air Act has a provision to address that. 
What is not being brought up, at least consistently, is that there is 
also a conflict with that through the EPA. The EPA guidance, largely 
enforced with the previous administration, conflicts with the Clean Air 
Act provision allowing States to adjust their emission plans. Every 
time one of those fires breaks out, we become at risk of falling out of 
our emissions standards.
  Mr. Speaker, this is really a pretty simple bill. All it does is 
ensure a fair and consistent ability for these air quality designations 
to be put in place.
  I stand in strong support of that. That is just one example. There 
are many other examples that some of my colleagues have brought up 
already.
  It is not fair for States to be penalized for something that is out 
of their control. This simply takes steps in order to put fair and 
consistent air quality designations in place. That is it.
  Mr. Speaker, I stand in strong support of H.R. 6409, and I urge my 
colleagues to do the same.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  The FENCES Act, Mr. Speaker, is a bad faith attempt by Republicans to 
use accounting gimmicks to make areas with bad air quality appear safe 
at the expense of our communities.
  I hear from my Republican colleagues all the time that the Federal 
Government should be more transparent, but the literal and figurative 
smog that would be created by the FENCES Act will only make Americans 
sicker.
  The FENCES Act goes an extra step to waive sanctions and fees for 
States, not just for international pollution but also pollution from 
mobile sources, exceptional events, and even from a different district 
within the same State.
  In other words, the FENCES Act removes all incentives for States to 
work toward NAAQS attainment. This is a bad deal for the American 
people.
  Every year, over 100,000 Americans die prematurely as a result of air 
pollution. Doctors and scientists widely consider foreign particulate 
matter to be one of the most toxic air pollutants, as it can cause 
asthma, COPD, heart disease, and certain types of cancer.
  We can't just ignore air pollution and the very real health 
consequences that result from it to make permitting for industry 
easier. We shouldn't ignore the broader political landscape in which we 
are considering this bill, either.
  Earlier this year, the EPA announced that it will no longer consider 
the benefits of protecting public health when developing new rules for 
fine particulate matter and ozone pollution. Instead, the EPA will only 
consider the compliance costs for industry.
  This decision is entirely antithetical to the EPA's core mission to 
protect public health and the environment. The American people are 
asking us to lower healthcare costs, and our responsibility should be 
to them, not to the industry.

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  However, our Republican colleagues seem to only answer to their 
corporate polluter friends who are asking for regulatory rollbacks to 
save a few dollars. The DEFENSE Act is a gift to industry that would 
come at the expense of the American people.
  For all these reasons, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote 
``no'' on the DEFENSE Act, and I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I would just like to point out that no one wants 
polluted air and polluted water. We have made tremendous advances in 
pollution control. As a matter of fact, I worked for two international 
engineering companies, one of which was in environmental systems. We 
built the pollution control equipment that has made our air 
demonstrably cleaner. We built flue gas scrubbers. We built 
electrostatic precipitators and baghouses.
  The technology has improved dramatically since I left my work in the 
field of engineering. Since 1980, we have reduced pollution from the 
six criteria gases monitored by the EPA by 78 percent. That is despite 
the fact that the economy has grown over 240 percent. That is $2.9 
trillion to an economy of $30.6 trillion adjusted for inflation.
  Vehicles miles driven are up 113 percent, and the population is up 
over 50 percent, yet we have seen remarkable improvements in air 
quality.
  What we are trying to do with this long overdue effort to modernize 
the Clean Air Act is to not only continue to keep our air clean and our 
water clean, but to improve economic opportunity to people, 
particularly people who are disadvantaged such as I was growing up.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge all of my colleagues, Democratic and Republican, 
to support this commonsense legislation, and I yield back the balance 
of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Issa). All time for debate has expired.
  Pursuant to House Resolution 1174, the previous question is ordered 
on the bill.
  The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.


                           Motion to Recommit

  Mr. MIN. Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to recommit at the desk.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to 
recommit.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Mr. Min of CA moves to recommit the bill H.R. 6409 to the 
     Committee on Energy and Commerce.

  The material previously referred to by Mr. Min is as follows:

       Mr. Min moves to recommit the bill H.R. 6409 to the 
     Committee on Energy and Commerce with instructions to report 
     the same back to the House forthwith, with the following 
     amendment:

       Add at the end the following:

     SEC. 3. LIMITATION.

       This Act, and the amendments made by this Act, shall not 
     take effect until the date on which the Administrator of the 
     Environmental Protection Agency, in consultation with the 
     Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee, publishes a 
     certification that implementation of this Act, and the 
     amendments

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     made by this Act, will not increase, including for vulnerable 
     populations such as seniors, children, and minority and low-
     income communities, any of the following:
       (1) Asthma attacks.
       (2) Hospitalization and emergency room visits for those 
     with respiratory disease or cardiovascular disease.
       (3) The risk of preterm birth, babies born with low birth 
     weight, or impaired fetal growth.
       (4) The risk of heart attacks, stroke, or premature death.
       (5) Reproductive, developmental, or other serious harms to 
     human health.
       (6) The costs of healthcare treatment for respiratory 
     disease, cardiovascular disease, or any other serious disease 
     or condition.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XIX, the 
previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit.
  The question is on the motion to recommit.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the noes appeared to have it.
  Mr. MIN. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further 
proceedings on this question are postponed.

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