[Congressional Record Volume 172, Number 43 (Monday, March 9, 2026)]
[Senate]
[Pages S912-S913]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]



                 Nomination of Lt. Gen. Joshua M. Rudd

  Mr. WYDEN. Madam President, I rise to speak in opposition to the 
nomination of Joshua Rudd to be Director of the National Security 
Agency.
  During his confirmation hearing, General Rudd demonstrated a lack of 
familiarity with basic constitutional rights, and that ought to be a 
bare minimum qualification for this extraordinarily important post.
  His response to questions about privacy and transparency were simply 
unacceptable. For example, I asked the nominee if he would pledge to 
not secretly violate existing public guardrails on the National 
Security Agency surveillance. He refused.
  For Americans trying to understand the incredible scope of the 
National Security Agency surveillance operations and the broad 
authorities under which the NSA operates, these practices are 
essential. The Agency plays a central role in conducting surveillance 
under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. That law is known as 
FISA. It gets a lot of attention from the American people and from 
Congress because it is public law. The Congress debates the 
reauthorization of FISA section 702 every few years.
  But the NSA also conducts extensive intelligence and surveillance 
operations outside of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and 
they do it pursuant to the Executive order 12333. And when NSA operates 
entirely under that Executive order, on this, there is no usual 
judicial oversight, not even from the FISA Court.
  The bottom line for the President and my colleagues, congressional 
oversight is often dependent on what the Executive branch wants to 
disclose. The potential for abuse is staggering.
  In 2005, the New York Times revealed that the NSA had conducted an 
illegal warrantless wiretapping program. For four years, the program 
had been hidden from the American people. By the way, it was also 
hidden from Congress. I was a member of the Senate Intelligence 
Committee, and even the committee wasn't told about the program. This 
is one of those infamous decisions that you hear about in situations--
what is called the Gang of 8--where the intelligence community informs 
only the committee's two leaders and instructs them not to tell other 
members or staff.
  So when the committee's vice chair Jay Rockefeller was told about the 
program, he put together a handwritten letter to the Vice President--
Vice President Cheney. He said he had concerns but that on his own, he 
couldn't even fully evaluate the program; and so the program continued 
for years--no oversight, no opportunity for Congress to address it 
through legislation.
  This history demonstrates what happens when the NSA's enormous 
capabilities are abused--abused by administration officials who are 
willing, unfortunately, to break the law. And, unfortunately, that is 
an accurate description of the executive branch and this 
administration.
  It is indisputable that constitutional rights in America are under 
attack right now. For example, we only recently learned that 9 months 
ago the administration secretly decided that the government didn't need 
a judicial warrant to break into a private home; in other words, the 
administration thinks it can just ignore the Fourth Amendment.
  And if the administration is going to ignore the Fourth Amendment to 
break down doors, what assurance would there be that they wouldn't also 
tap Americans' phones without a warrant? Why should anybody believe 
they wouldn't do it secretly and make sure that the public or the 
Congress or even full Intelligence Committees weren't aware?
  When it comes to surveillance, I subscribe to Ben Franklin's 
principle. Franklin said:

       Those who would give up liberty for security will lose both 
     and deserve neither.

  The fact is--and I work on this every single day--we need both. That 
is not a partisan proposition.
  Refusing to promise to not violate the Constitution doesn't make us 
safer. That is why I was particularly focused on General Rudd's 
understanding of the constitutional limits on the operations of the 
NSA.
  So I asked General Rudd whether, if he were directed to target people 
in the United States for surveillance, he would insist that there be a 
judicial warrant. And I told him in advance that I would ask this 
question. Then, at the hearing, I offered him the opportunity to answer 
with a ``yes'' or a ``no.'' We still got no answers.
  So I thought: Cut him some slack and encourage him to offer just some 
general thoughts on the matter. Still, we got nothing, and I did 
everything in my power at that confirmation hearing to allow him to 
demonstrate some understanding of the basic guardrails of the NSA's 
authorities. I only got vague assurances that he might be interested in 
the law.
  Given the history of these NSA abuses and this administration's clear 
disregard for the Constitution, the general's inability to answer this 
question in a meaningful way would have really been enough for me to 
oppose the nomination, but there were other topics that were just as 
bad. He wouldn't associate himself with the NSA's previous commitment 
to not buy and use Americans' location data. Then-NSA Director Nakasone 
made this commitment in a public letter in 2023. General Rudd wouldn't 
stand by that public policy.

[[Page S913]]

  That has real implications. Location data, which is bought and sold 
by some of the sleaziest merchants in the world--sleazy data brokers--
can reveal extremely sensitive private information about Americans, 
including what medical clinics they go to, what houses of worship they 
go to, what stores they shop at, what protests they attend, and which 
friends and family they see.
  The threat to Americans' privacy is even more serious when you stop 
to consider the discussion about artificial intelligence and how 
artificial intelligence can be used against enormous amounts of 
commercially available data, including location information on 
Americans.
  So, again, it is deeply disturbing that General Rudd refuses to 
endorse the NSA's past commitment. This is what they said they would do 
in the past, and it was to not collect and use all this sensitive data 
on Americans.
  General Rudd also refused to say whether the government should 
mandate backdoors into encryption used by Americans.
  I think Members know encryption is the code that protects your 
messages, your pictures, and private data from predators and criminals. 
For years, officials have argued that the government should force the 
tech companies to build backdoors into their encryption products.
  But you talk to security researchers, and they will tell you there is 
no way to create encryption backdoors that only the government can use. 
Once you weaken encryption, it is inevitable in America that foreign 
spies and criminals will exploit the vulnerability.
  Now, as hacking has gotten more and more sophisticated, the threat 
that our adversaries will use any and all cyber vulnerabilities has 
gotten more obvious. In fact, the constant headlines about successful 
hacking campaigns are probably the reason why we are not hearing as 
much these days about weakening encryption.
  So this question for General Rudd should have been easy, particularly 
since the job to which he is nominated includes responsibilities for 
the Nation's cyber security. Again, the general refused to take a 
position.
  So his responses to transparency, as we move to consider this 
nomination, are especially troubling. In addition to laws and the 
Constitution, the NSA is bound by numerous policies and procedures 
which are publicly available. These policies and procedures are 
especially important because they provide some guardrails on NSA's 
surveillance and intelligence activities under Executive Order 12333, 
which, again, is not governed by FISA and not reviewed by the FISA 
Court.
  So to take just one example, if the National Security Agency is going 
to conduct a search of a 12333 collection for Americans' 
communications, it generally needs the Attorney General to determine 
that there is probable cause that the American is an agent of a foreign 
power. This is not a law. It is a policy that has been made public by 
successive administrations so that Americans could get a better 
understanding of the guardrails that apply to the NSA's surveillance 
activities.
  This is the bottom line: The National Security Agency is supposed to 
be hunting for terrorists and spies. This Agency is not supposed to be 
hunting for Americans who simply do things that the President doesn't 
like, such as criticizing their government or buying abortion 
medication online.
  So I asked General Rudd what I thought was another easy question, as 
we began to wrap up our confirmation hearing: If he were directed to 
operate in violation of those public policies and procedures, would he 
inform the American people? Once again, he refused to make a 
commitment.
  So I also asked him whether, if the administration secretly decided 
to withdraw or change any of the public policies, would he ensure that 
the public sees the new policies. Again, no commitment.
  So let's be clear. The operational details of the NSA's business, its 
sources, and methods have to be absolutely protected. National security 
is at stake. But I didn't ask General Rudd about sources and methods. 
They are off limits. I asked him whether Americans can rely on the NSA 
to conduct its operations within the guardrails that the government--
and this is the key--has already made public. But in his response, it 
is not clear that they can.
  When Americans can no longer trust whether intelligence Agencies are 
respecting their own public policies, that is bad for democracy, and it 
is bad for the intelligence Agencies.
  General Rudd was even asked whether, if the President secretly 
decided not to follow these public policies, would he at least inform 
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. General Rudd wouldn't even 
answer that question in a straightforward way, which makes me wonder 
what abuses even the Intelligence Committee is never going to hear 
about.
  In closing, I have great respect for General Rudd's many years of 
military service, but I stand here because his troubling statements 
about constitutional rights, which I went into with him in detail, 
simply leave him not qualified for this job.
  We are now in the second week of a reckless war that was started by 
Donald Trump. This war and its global fallout have created new and 
serious threats to our national security. Our country needs an NSA 
Director with experience in U.S. signals activities, and it has to come 
from working on these issues around the world. General Rudd does not 
have that experience.
  The Director of NSA has another job: that of commander of U.S. Cyber 
Command. The demands of this job are mind-boggling. The cyber threat to 
the United States can't be overstated.

  And as Salt Typhoon demonstrated, our adversaries have succeeded in 
inflicting serious damage to our national security. Just last week, the 
government acknowledged ongoing hacking of U.S. Government Agencies.
  So our country needs somebody who is prepared from day one to protect 
our country in this crucial area that I describe in closing--that is 
the question of cyber--because we are dealing not just with Iran but 
China and Russia. The Commander of CYBERCOM needs to have a deep and 
sophisticated understanding of this threat. He or she needs to be able 
to see this threat in its geopolitical context and to fully grasp the 
technical capabilities and the policy options that might help NSA and 
CYBERCOM.
  Americans are at war, and we cannot afford to promote someone who 
lacks the experience for the job. General Rudd's predecessor in the job 
had that experience. They came up through CYBERCOM. They were ready. 
General Rudd is not. And when it comes to the cyber security of the 
country, there just isn't time for on-the-job learning. The threat is 
too urgent for that.
  Madam President, for these reasons, I oppose this nomination, and I 
urge my colleagues in the Senate to do the same.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Mississippi.