[Congressional Record Volume 172, Number 38 (Thursday, February 26, 2026)]
[Senate]
[Pages S692-S697]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




          HOUSING FOR THE 21ST CENTURY ACT--Motion to Proceed

  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I move to proceed to Calendar No. 343, H.R. 
6644.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the motion.
  The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:

       Motion to proceed to Calendar No. 343, H.R. 6644, a bill to 
     increase the supply of housing in America, and for other 
     purposes.


                             Cloture Motion

  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I send a cloture motion to the desk.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The cloture motion having been presented under 
rule XXII, the Chair directs the clerk to read the motion.
  The senior assistant legislative clerk read as follows:

                             Cloture Motion

       We, the undersigned Senators, in accordance with the 
     provisions of rule XXII of the Standing Rules of the Senate, 
     do hereby move to bring to a close debate on the motion to 
     proceed to Calendar No. 343, H.R. 6644, a bill to increase 
     the supply of housing in America, and for other purposes.
         John Thune, Tim Scott of South Carolina, Katie Boyd 
           Britt, Jim Banks, John Barrasso, John R. Curtis, Kevin 
           Cramer, Joni Ernst, Pete Ricketts, Bernie Moreno, 
           Markwayne Mullin, Mike Crapo, Ted Budd, Roger F. 
           Wicker, James Lankford, Chuck Grassley, Cindy Hyde-
           Smith.


                          Waiving Quorum Call

  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to waive the 
mandatory quorum call in relation to the McCormack nomination.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.


                   Recognition of the Minority Leader

  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader is recognized.


                                  Iran

  Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, today, U.S. and Iranian officials are 
holding talks in Geneva as America stands at the brink of another 
potential conflict in the Middle East.
  Earlier this week, Senate leaders and I met with Secretary Rubio. 
Everyone is asking what the plan is with respect to Iran, and we are 
all looking for answers that the administration has refused to give.
  The issues we discussed in our classified briefing were very serious, 
and the American people deserve to hear it directly from the President 
and his administration. The administration should come clean and tell 
the American people exactly what the goal is in Iran.
  I have always said that confronting Iran and halting its nuclear 
ambition requires a strategy, clarity, and transparency. Thus far, we 
are getting none of that from the administration. The American people 
deserve answers.


                             Epstein Files

  Mr. President, on Epstein, the way Pam Bondi and the Justice 
Department handled the release of the Epstein files has all the stench 
of a coverup.
  Yesterday, news outlets reported that several memos detailing a 
woman's accusation against the President from when she was a minor have 
been withheld from the public. We know

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these memos exist. An index of all the investigative materials confirm 
their existence, and under law--the law we passed unanimously here in 
the Senate--they need to be made public.
  Pam Bondi does not have the right to pick and choose which Epstein 
files to release to the public. Protecting the President from 
embarrassment is not her job. The American people were promised the 
truth, and Pam Bondi's job is to give Americans full access to the 
truth.
  What else is the administration keeping behind a lock and key? Is 
this incompetence, or is it a full-blown coverup? Pam Bondi owes the 
American people some answers.
  Remember, the law Congress passed had very specific criteria for 
withholding the Epstein files: protect victims' identities, protect the 
integrity of an ongoing investigation, or avoid duplication. Protecting 
Donald Trump's image does not--does not--fit any of these buckets.
  So I ask Pam Bondi: Whose side are you on, the victims or the 
perpetrators?


                       State of the Union Address

  Mr. President, on the ``State of Delusion'' and Democrats' plan to 
lower costs, there has never been a State of the Union where the 
President spoke for so long but had so little substance, so little 
truth.
  Tuesday night was 2 hours of Donald Trump's ``State of Delusion.'' He 
is in a bubble. He doesn't know what is going on with the American 
people. All he wants to do is stroke his own ego. Donald Trump told the 
country that everything is great, that costs are coming down, that 
manufacturing is up, that he is going to fix healthcare, and that we 
are going to win so much that we don't know what to do. That is what he 
said. It is amazing.
  I ask very seriously: Who else in America feels this way, that we are 
winning so much we don't know what to do? Maybe billionaires, but that 
is it.

  Today, I want to talk about a couple of things that Donald Trump 
didn't mention during his 2-hour ``State of Delusion.''
  For one, Donald Trump didn't talk about how he will bring down the 
cost of living. Ground beef is up 11 percent. Coffee is up 14 percent. 
Rent is up. Thanks to Donald Trump's tariffs, American families are 
spending over $1,700 more this year--$1,700 out of the average working 
family's pocket. That is a heck of a lot of money when people are 
struggling to pay the bills.
  Where is Donald Trump's plan to fix any of this? He said nothing.
  In a moment, I will talk about what Democrats plan to do about this.
  Donald Trump also talked about manufacturing, but he failed to 
mention that America is not creating manufacturing jobs. We are 
bleeding them.
  So many lies--he says we are growing manufacturing jobs? Well, look 
at this chart.
  These are the numbers of manufacturing jobs that were lost in the 
last year--in May, in June, in July, in August, in September, in 
October, in November, and in December. We lost in every month. We lost 
manufacturing jobs, and Donald Trump just lies about it.
  This is the state of manufacturing in the United States. 
Manufacturing jobs are down by 100,000. We shed manufacturing jobs 
every single month--every single month--right after Trump's 
``Liberation Day.'' Yet he lies about it. He just makes it up.
  Donald Trump has this uncanny ability which misserves human beings 
and which particularly misserves Presidents. He thinks that by saying 
it is so, it is true and that everyone will just believe him. Well, his 
minions believe him, no matter what he says, but no one else. He talks 
past America.
  Again, we lost manufacturing jobs, Donald Trump. We didn't gain them.
  Trump also failed to speak about his plan to fix healthcare because 
he has none. Donald Trump claims he will always protect Medicare, but 
that is false. The CBO found that, thanks to Donald Trump's ``Big Ugly 
Bill,'' the Medicare trust fund will run out 12 years sooner than 
before. In other words, Donald Trump has accelerated Medicare's demise 
by more than a decade with one single bill which every Republican voted 
for in this Chamber but no Democrat because we knew the damage to 
healthcare he was doing.
  Donald Trump also failed to mention anything about China. It is the 
second leading power in the world. The United States has lots of issues 
with China, but when was the last time a President of the United States 
avoided talking about America's biggest rival on the world stage during 
his State of the Union?
  The way Donald Trump has handled China is an embarrassment. He has 
promised to be tough on China, but he is playing with them with kids' 
clothes, giving them critical American technology, and his tariffs have 
failed to win any meaningful concessions.
  It doesn't have to be this way. Americans deserve better than a 
President and a Republican Party that think ``affordability'' is a 
made-up word. Later this morning, I will join my colleagues--Senators 
Cantwell, Lujan, Booker, and Welch--and experts from across the country 
to talk about how we lower food costs, how we make trips to the grocery 
store less painful for families, and how we fix the structural problems 
that keep prices high, like the consolidation of the food industry.
  Today's roundtable is part of a larger Senate effort by Senate 
Democrats to, all year long, talk about how we will drive costs down, 
because we don't believe affordability is some kind of hoax. He called 
it a hoax. That was insulting to America. He seems to have fun 
insulting people. That is what it seemed like up there on the ``State 
of Delusion'' stage that he occupied. Affordability is the most real 
thing in the lives of the American people economically.
  In the weeks and months ahead, we are going to go issue by issue, 
taking the time to dig in and roll out serious, practical battle plans 
to bring costs down. We started a month ago with housing, and I am 
proud of the work Democrats are doing to lower housing costs. We will 
soon take on energy and electricity. We will take on childcare, and we 
will take on healthcare.
  Lowering costs will be Senate Democrats' North Star in 2026. Let me 
repeat that so America and our Republican colleagues hear it: Lowering 
costs will be Senate Democrats' North Star in 2026.
  The conversations we have today about high food prices will lay the 
groundwork for real legislation so that, when Democrats have the 
majority, we can deliver real relief and bring down the cost of living.
  I yield the floor.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. BARRASSO. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  The majority whip is recognized.


                       State of the Union Address

  Mr. BARRASSO. Mr. President, this week, President Trump called 
attention and paid tribute to families who lost loved ones--loved ones 
who were killed by illegal immigrant criminals. Now, these are known as 
Angel Families. On Monday, President Trump declared February 23 
National Angel Family Day.
  On Tuesday, during the State of the Union, when we were both there, 
the President honored a heartbroken Angel mother--a mother who was 
there in the audience from the State of Texas. It was her 16-year-old 
daughter, Lizbeth Medina, who was brutally murdered by an illegal 
immigrant. Lizbeth's killer had a criminal background and should not 
have been in our country.
  Just like Laken Riley, the nursing student who had been brutally 
murdered by an illegal immigrant, Lizbeth dreamed also of becoming a 
nurse. Think of all the lives that could have been helped and saved had 
hers not been stolen away.
  Republicans are determined to ensure that no more families are forced 
to feel this sort of pain.
  During his State of the Union Address, President Trump asked a single 
and powerful question. He said to the entire Chamber, everyone--
Republicans, Democrats, everyone there--he said: If you agree with this 
statement, then stand up and show your support.
  He then presented the statement to the American people. This is the 
statement. He said:

       The first duty of the American Government is to protect 
     American citizens--not illegal [immigrants].


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  So what happened? Republicans stood up and cheered, as they should 
and should every American citizen, for putting American citizens first. 
Not a single Democrat, that I saw, stood up. They sat on their hands. 
They sat in the Chamber. They refused to stand to the important 
statement of ``The first duty of the American Government is to protect 
American citizens--not illegal aliens.'' To me, that revealing moment 
said it all.
  Now, I have said it many times before, and I will say it again: 
Democrats care more about illegal immigrant criminals. Every one of 
them on the other side of the aisle cares more about illegal immigrant 
criminals than they do about the safety and the security of the 
American people. That is wrong, Mr. President. That is not what our 
country is all about.


                    Department of Homeland Security

  Mr. President, we are now 13 days into the shutdown of the Department 
of Homeland Security. It is another Democrat shutdown. They are the 
ones that shut it down--a shutdown against American safety and 
security. That is who those people are. That is what they believe in. 
That is why they would not stand, the other night, during the 
President's State of the Union Address, to support American citizens as 
opposed to illegal immigrant criminals.
  But the Department of Homeland Security stands between illegal 
immigrant criminals and the American people, between terrorists and 
American citizens. And yet this is the very Department that the 
Democrats have decided to shut down.
  We funded 96 percent of the Government through the usual approach 
that we do, the Appropriations Committee, and they refused that last 4 
percent of Government because that is the 4 percent that deals with the 
Department of Homeland Security.
  So today these heroes that protect American lives are working without 
pay. It is wrong. We are talking about TSA agents, Secret Services 
agents, the Coast Guard that patrols our coastal waters, our Nation's 
cyber security--260,000 people in all working without pay because the 
Democrats have shut down the Department of Homeland Security or, at 
least, refused to pay them. They are still working, but they are not 
getting paid because of the Democrats.

  Funding the Department of Homeland Security is about protecting 
American citizens. That is the fundamental role of Government. It is 
not coddling illegal immigrant criminals, which is what the Democrats 
seem to want to do, especially criminals who brutally murder American 
citizens.
  Republicans have offered fair terms to fully and immediately fund the 
Department of Homeland Security. What do the Democrats say? Well, they 
continue to make unreasonable and unserious demands. Democrats want the 
Department of Homeland Security to remain closed. It is very evident 
from their statements.
  Democrats have submitted a laundry list of demands in order for the 
Government to fund the Department of Homeland Security. They demand 
harsh restrictions on cooperation between the Federal Government, State 
governments, and local officials.
  Mr. President, you would want them all to work together. I mean, 
wouldn't it be better if we coordinated efforts at the State, local, 
and national levels? Of course.
  Democrats are demanding an outright ban on immigration enforcement at 
so-called sensitive locations. So they have a list of sensitive 
locations. One, astonishingly--this is the first time this has ever 
appeared in any of their lists of demands, but it is now here--they 
want a sensitive location for protection of illegal immigrants to be 
polling places.
  Why are illegal immigrants in polling places? It is illegal for them 
to vote.
  That is who the Democrats are. That is who they are supporting. That 
is what they are trying to do--protect illegal immigrant criminals. 
Their demands are driven not by the protection and safety of the 
American people. It is for the protection and safety of illegal 
immigrants, and it is just flatout wrong. It flies in the face of who 
we are as American citizens.
  The Democrat demands are driven not by the traditional Democrats of 
yesterday. Oh, no, they are driven by the extreme Democrats of today. 
And it is the extreme Democrats of today who have captured and are 
controlling today's Democrat Party. The Democrats of yesterday are 
gone. This is a party under the control of the radical left--a party 
that calls for defunding the police, a party that encourages defying 
the law, and a party that refuses to stand when they are asked to 
support the citizens of America.
  The Democrats' demands are reckless, they are radical, and they are 
dangerous. The Democrats' demands compromise public safety. They fly in 
the face of the rule of law. They turn America into a sanctuary 
country. That is not what the American people want.
  The danger is real. The cartels remain a serious and deadly threat. 
Just this week, in Mexico, they launched a violent new drug war. This 
violence started after the Mexican military, encouraged and assisted by 
the United States, eliminated one of Mexico's most powerful drug lords.
  As the cartels spread chaos across Mexico, they also seek to harm law 
enforcement officers inside America--inside our own country. ABC News 
has now reported that the Mexican cartels have placed cash bounties on 
ICE and Border Patrol officers living and working here in America, 
cartels paying for damage--physical damage--of ICE and Border Patrol 
agents serving here at home.
  They actually have a payment list. They offer $2,000 to dox an agent, 
including photos of the agent's family or details about the agent's 
family. They are paying $5,000 to $10,000 to kidnap or assault an 
enforcement officer, and $50,000 to murder a high-ranking official. 
That is what the Mexican cartels are up to these days, at a time that 
the Democrats here stand for the illegal immigrants but remain seated 
in terms of support for the American people.
  So think about it. Criminal cartels in Mexico have put a price on the 
heads of our law enforcement officers here at home in America, and yet 
the pro-crime Democrats here in the U.S. Senate, as part of their list 
of demands, are demanding that ICE officers remove their masks in the 
face of such assaults, making it easier for the cartels to get what 
they want, to go after their families.
  But Republicans are not at all going to accept these dangerous 
demands from the Democrats--demands that make our communities less safe 
and demands that put our enforcement officers at increased risk.
  Republicans here in this body and across the country and most 
American citizens agree with President Trump: It is the No. 1 duty of 
any government--and certainly ours--to protect its citizens, not 
illegal aliens. And Republicans will stand every day for the safety and 
security of our Nation's citizens.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sheehy). The Senator from Louisiana.


                       Tribute to Candice Humble

  Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, with me today is one of my colleagues 
from my office, Ms. Candice Humble. She is a member of my 
communications team. She is not responsible for anything I say.
  I am losing her. She is not leaving government; she is going to work 
for the White House. Today is her last day, and I asked her to come 
down so that I could thank Candice publicly for all of her 
extraordinary work and for giving so much to the people in Louisiana 
and to the American people.


                                  Iran

  Mr. President, about 90 percent of my personal and political 
philosophy is, don't hurt someone unless they are trying to hurt you 
first, don't take other people's stuff, and leave me alone--let me live 
my life, exercising the free will and responsibility that God gave--
which leads me to my first topic: Iran.
  I am not talking about the people of Iran. I am talking about the 
political and religious leadership of the Government of Iran. I am 
talking about the Ayatollah and his followers.
  In America, we separate government from religion. Not in Iran, thanks 
to the Ayatollah. The government tells you what religion to practice. 
The government is the religion.
  Now, everybody has the right to believe what they want. I will tell 
you what the Ayatollah believes. He is Muslim, but his strain of Islam 
says

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that if you do not agree with his interpretation of God, then you 
deserve to die. You do. And he acts on that belief.
  Now, let me say again, the Ayatollah is entitled to believe what he 
wants. I was raised a Presbyterian. My parents founded two Presbyterian 
churches. When Becky and I got married, Becky was a Methodist, and I 
was a Presbyterian. We compromised: I became a Methodist. I am entitled 
to believe what I want. But the Ayatollah not only thinks that I am 
going to Hell because I don't agree with his religion; he wants to kill 
me. He wants to kill Americans and Israelis and anybody who does not 
believe in his jihad and drink our blood out of a boot. And he has 
acted on that. I don't need to tell the Presiding Officer. I don't need 
to tell the Presiding Officer. He has acted on that, and that is not 
acceptable.
  Now, a lot of the people in Iran--the good people in Iran--don't 
agree with the Ayatollah. If they disagree with him too loudly, he just 
kills them.
  The Ayatollah--it has actually been the case for the last--I don't 
know--10, 15, 20 years--the Ayatollah has decided he wants a nuclear 
warhead. Why should we care? I hear from some of my fellow Americans 
all the time: Why do we need to be involved in Iran? Why should we 
care?
  Well, No. 1, we are not trying to start a war in Iran; the President 
is trying to end a war in Iran. If the Ayatollah gets a nuclear weapon, 
he will use it. He could use it against America. He could use it 
against Israel. I don't know who he will use it against, and I hope I 
am wrong, but he will use it.
  Do you know what else will happen as soon as he gets a nuclear 
weapon? Saudi Arabia is going to get a nuclear weapon, and the UAE is 
going to get a nuclear weapon, and Japan is going to get a nuclear 
weapon, and South Korea, and I could go on and on and on. The more 
nuclear weapons you have in the world, the more likely you are to have 
a nuclear war.
  But that is not the only thing the Ayatollah has done since he became 
the Ayatollah. He exports terrorism. He was the person behind Hamas and 
Hezbollah that have killed so many people throughout the world--not 
just in the Middle East but across the world--including but not limited 
to Americans. That is why we ought to care.
  The Ayatollah also has conventional ballistic missiles and is 
building more as we speak. Now, those missiles can't reach America yet, 
but they are working on one. And they can sure reach our military bases 
in the Middle East, and they can sure reach Israel. Yes, sir. Yes, 
ma'am. That is why we should care.

  Finally, the Ayatollah, if you disagree with him--and we have seen it 
happen on TV. We don't know how many people he has hung in the last 6 
months. We don't know how many people he has tortured. I have seen 
estimates as high as 50,000.
  So that is what this business with Iran is all about. We are not 
trying to be the world's policeman; we are trying to stop the Ayatollah 
from being the world's policeman. He is getting a lot of support from 
President Xi Jinping in China and Vladimir Putin in Russia and Kim Jong 
Un in North Korea. So that is where we find ourselves trying to stop 
this war.
  To the Ayatollah, I would say: Ayatollah, you are entitled to believe 
what you want. You can hate me. You can believe that. I know you hate 
me and what I stand for. You know how I sleep at night knowing that you 
hate me? With the fan on. That is your right. But you can't act on that 
belief. Put down the nuclear weapons. Put down the nuclear enrichment. 
Stop exporting terrorism through Hamas and Hezbollah. End your missile 
program. Stop killing and torturing your people.
  That is all we want, and he is doing that as we speak. He is at war; 
we are trying to stop it.
  I am not about to give the President any advice. He has intelligence 
that I don't have, and I respect the fact that he is being very 
deliberate and careful in making a decision. If we make a deal with 
Iran, let's make sure we have a protocol to enforce it because, in my 
experience in watching the Ayatollah through the years, I wouldn't 
trust this man if he were 3 days dead. I wouldn't trust him if he were 
3 days dead. Anybody whose religion tells them that in order to be 
saved, they have to go kill hundreds of millions of people--you can 
believe it if you want, but as far as I am concerned, it is time to get 
a new religion.
  That is what we are doing in Iran. Let me say it again. We are not 
trying to start a war. This war began a long time ago. We are trying to 
end it. Our President presiding today knows exactly what I talked 
about. He served honorably--at great physical, mental, and emotional 
expense--in the Middle East. That is what we are trying to stop.


                              New Orleans

  Mr. President, topic No. 2: New Orleans. I love New Orleans. I am not 
from New Orleans. I used to live there. I met my wife there. I used to 
live uptown. I used to practice law in New Orleans. I taught a little 
while in law school in Baton Rouge, but my first teaching job was going 
to be in New Orleans before I moved to Baton Rouge. I love New 
Orleans--one of the most unique cities in the entire world.
  So what I am about to say, I say from my heart with love and 
affection and as a former resident and frequent visitor. Here is my 
message to the political leadership in New Orleans: Get your act 
together. Get your act together.
  I don't go to New Orleans that I don't hear from my people down 
there: We need affordable housing. We need affordable housing. We need 
affordable housing.
  Let me tell you something. We spend a lot of money on affordable 
housing in America, billions every year--the American taxpayer. Not 
State money. Not local money. This is American taxpayer money. We take 
that money and send it to States and local governments to build 
affordable housing for people who can't afford a home, because the 
American people are so generous.
  We do that through what are called housing agencies. Every State that 
I am aware of has a housing agency, and many local governments have a 
housing agency. The State housing agencies and the local housing 
agencies take the Federal money and use it--given to them out of the 
goodness of the American taxpayers' heart--to create affordable 
housing.
  We have been doing that for years in New Orleans. There is a local 
housing authority. We call it HANO, the Housing Authority of New 
Orleans. It is run by a board of commissioners appointed by the mayor. 
Last year, I think we gave them $70 million. By ``we,'' I mean the 
American taxpayer. They have been around since 1937.
  The Housing Authority of New Orleans has a spectacular and impressive 
record of graft, corruption, mismanagement, incompetence, theft. Do you 
think I am kidding? I came with receipts. It got so bad from 2006 to 
2009 that Housing and Urban Development in 2009 had to take them over--
the Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.
  From 2006 to 2009, the chief financial officer of HANO stole $900,000 
of taxpayer money. A few years later, the guy running HANO's section 8 
voucher department just took a voucher for himself and paid his own 
rent. The skillethead got caught. Boy, that really gave us confidence.
  In 2007, the Feds had to step in and investigate--I think in some 
cases, they prosecuted--a vendor kickback scheme. In 2014, the director 
of the Housing Authority of New Orleans was investigated for giving out 
$1 million in no-bid contracts. Guess who they went to. The director's 
friends. An audit in 2010 found--our auditors couldn't find $7.2 
million.
  I could go on. I could give you a list as long as King Kong's elbow.
  Now I am going to tell you about the most recent episode that has 
made me want to stick my head in the oven. We have a housing project in 
New Orleans called the Guste Homes complex. It is in a part of our city 
called Central City. It is pretty big. It is not particularly well run, 
but it is pretty big. It has a 12-story building that houses 
apartments, and I think they have some townhomes as well.
  We provide housing--``we,'' once again, being the American taxpayer--
to the elderly and the disabled. They can live there.
  And the Guste Homes complex--I call it Guste Homes--is run by HANO, 
the Housing Authority of New Orleans, the board of commissioners 
appointed by our mayor.

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  The Housing Authority of New Orleans has an administrator--and I am 
not denigrating her. I don't know anything about her. I am just telling 
you what is going on. But the board and the administrator of the 
Housing Authority of New Orleans don't run Guste. They are supposed to. 
They went and hired a management company to run Guste. And the 
management company, its overhead is about $8 million a year. I am not 
kidding you. That is money that doesn't go to provide housing to 
people; it goes into their pocket.
  I was looking up one of their consultants. They hired a consultant--I 
don't think she works there anymore--a Mrs. Sherri--I am going to 
mispronounce this name--Sengsouvanna. Never met her. I do know that 
from 2003 to 2024, HANO gave her $660,000 as a consultant. I looked her 
up.
  Here is the way she describes herself:

       I am an author, a grief mentor, and an entrepreneur who has 
     built a career around helping others navigate loss and find 
     spiritual healing.

  Six hundred and sixty grand to her as a consultant; isn't that 
special?
  Well, now, the management company and HANO, they stopped paying the 
water bill for the people who live in the housing. They have run up a 
water bill for $1.5 million. They say they don't have the money, and 
the water company predictably says: Well, hey, we are going to have to 
cut off your water.
  What are we going to do with these 310 folks--elderly, disabled--that 
the American taxpayer gave money to for their housing?
  And now HANO is saying, you know, don't pay the water bill. The water 
bill is wrong.
  I don't know who is right and who is wrong, but I will tell you what 
else HANO was saying. HANO was saying the Guste project is a mess. Even 
though we have hired consultants out the wazoo and given them money, we 
have got a big vacancy rate--no kidding. They don't have running water. 
We have got a big vacancy, and there is too much deferred maintenance 
so we want to start over, and, by the way, we want the Federal 
Government to give us $60 million.
  When donkeys fly.
  Now, we have got a new mayor in New Orleans. I am delighted we got 
some new council people. They have got to do their job. I don't want to 
hear that we are not responsible for HANO. The mayor appoints them. Get 
rid of the thieves. Get rid of incompetence. Don't come back and ask 
for more money to fix your mistakes from the American taxpayer. The 
good people of New Orleans deserve that. They deserve better. Do 
better. The people living in this complex deserve better.
  I have had enough. I have just had enough. Fix it. And if you say: 
Well, New Orleans--I know, it is a sanctuary city and they have their 
political beliefs and, by God, they are entitled to them. That is 
America. You can believe what you want. OK. And they may disagree with 
the current administration in Washington. That is fine too. This is 
America, and that has really got nothing to do with this.
  But you need to clean up your own act first. I don't know how. I 
can't tell you how to do it, but the American people gave at the 
office. I can't tell you how to do it. Maybe you are going to have to 
borrow the money. Maybe you are going to have to actually raise taxes 
on the people of New Orleans; I hope not. But at some point--at some 
point--the money has got to come from somewhere.
  Get your act together before you come back to me or anybody else in 
Washington, going: You got $60 million dollars lying around? Not only 
can we not pay the water bill, we want to tear the whole thing down and 
build a new one and have somebody else pay for it.
  Gag me with a spoon.
  Anyway, I am going to miss Candice. Thank you for your good work, 
Candice.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The senior assistant executive clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.


                         Department of Commerce

  Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, since we have a little time, I know we 
have got the vote coming up, and I am certainly not going to delay 
that. I like my life too much. But I want to spend a few minutes 
talking about the Department of Commerce.
  I had this discussion the other day with our Secretary of Commerce 
Mr. Harry Lutnick, for whom I have great respect. One of the Agencies 
in the Department of Commerce is an Agency called the Census Bureau. 
And I know that sounds like they count people--and they do--but they 
have a multitude of responsibilities. One of their responsibilities is 
to define the poverty level in America, tell us who is poor.
  According to the Census Bureau, if you are single in America and you 
make $16,000 or less, you are poor; you are below the poverty level. If 
you are a family of two and you make $20,000 or less, you are at or 
below the poverty level; a family of three, $27,000; family of four, 
$32,000.
  We take that seriously in America. Other countries let you die in a 
ditch. We don't do that in America. It is one of the reasons we spend 
$1.4 trillion a year helping our neighbors who are poor. In our 
country, if you are hungry, we will feed you; if you are homeless, we 
will house you; if you are too poor to be sick, we will pay for your 
doctor. That separates us from just about every other country in the 
world.
  I have been all over this world. I know the Presiding Officer has 
too. In other countries, they will just let you die in a ditch. We 
don't do that in America. Mr. President, $1.4 trillion is how much we 
spend every year. That is taxpayer money. It didn't just fall from 
Heaven--we thank Heaven for it--it came out of people's pockets.
  If you go talk to the Census Bureau--I pointed this out to Secretary 
Lutnick--if you go ask the Census Bureau how many poor people we have 
in America, they will tell you 11 percent--1 out of 10 Americans. It 
has been that way since 1974. We have been spending $1.4 trillion a 
year, and the poverty level hasn't budged. Eleven percent, they will 
tell you, and they will shout it from the rooftops.
  When they get a letter from another Agency saying ``We need some help 
to research how many poor people we have in America today,'' they will 
tell you ``Eleven percent. Eleven percent.'' They are lying. It is a 
bald-faced lie. Do you know why? Because they don't count--they refuse 
to count all of the public benefits the American people give to the 
poor. According to the Census Bureau, the only thing that counts is if 
you get cash from the Federal Government. We call that welfare. 
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. We have another program I 
think that pays cash; it is called WIC.
  But according to the Census Bureau, that is the way you define if 
somebody is in poverty. You look at how much money they make, and on 
top of that, we consider cash transfer payments from the Federal 
Government, and when you do that, 11 percent are poor. What planet and 
what solar system did these people parachute in?
  Do you know what they don't count? I will tell you what they don't 
count. They don't count earned income tax credits. If I make a low 
enough income myself--let's say I make $15,000 a year. I have to pay 
tax on that, file a tax return, but if I do, I get an income tax 
credit. It is called--it is refundable. That means the IRS sends me a 
check. The American people pay for that, but the Census Bureau says 
that doesn't count in determining the poor.
  Do you know what else they don't count? They don't count food stamps. 
Huh? Real strong drugs is the only possible explanation for them to not 
even count food stamps.
  Do you know what else they don't count? Housing subsidies, section 8 
vouchers, getting to live in a place for free.
  Do you know what else they don't count? Utility bill subsidies. They 
don't count Medicaid. They don't count free school meals.
  Do you know why? Because if they counted it, do you know how many 
Americans would be living in poverty? One percent. And that is an 
actual fact.
  I am going to give you an example. Let's suppose you are a mom with 
two kids, and you are poor. You work, and you make $11,000 a year, OK? 
In determining whether that mom is poor, the Census Bureau counts her 
income and counts any payments she gets, as I said, from welfare. But 
that mom with

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two children making $11,000 a year is going to get back from the 
Federal Government $4,100 in refundable earned income tax credits.
  Remember what I just talked about? The Census Bureau says: Oh, that 
doesn't matter; not real money.
  That mom is going to get back $3,400 in a check in child tax credits. 
That mom is going to receive $9,200 in food stamps. That mom is going 
to receive $9,500--or at least she will be eligible to receive it--in 
housing subsidies. That mom is going to receive $900 in utility bill 
subsidies, $16,000 in Medicaid for her and her two children, and $31 a 
year for free school lunches at school for her two kids. Let's suppose 
that on top of that, she gets $6,600 a year in welfare payments.
  Remember, the Census Bureau says that all this stuff doesn't count. 
The only thing that counts is that the lady works and makes $11,000 a 
year, and she gets $6,600 in welfare payments, so her income is only 
$17,600, and she is below the poverty line.
  Wrong. You don't have to be Euclid to be able to figure out that if 
you add up the TANF money and the $11,000 that she earns and the 
refundable child tax credit and the refundable earned income tax credit 
and the food stamps and the housing subsidies and the utility bill 
subsidies and the Medicaid and the free school lunches that I have just 
talked about--do you know what her income is? It is $64,100 tax free. 
Yet the Census Bureau says she is below the poverty line.

  Now, look, I am not here to begrudge this lady, this hypothetical 
person. I am going to say it again: The American people are the most 
generous people in the world. We help our neighbors. But the American 
people put up this money, and they ought to get credit. And when the 
Census Bureau, which has been telling us since 1974--they have been 
lying to us. They have been lying to us. They learned to lie over there 
before they learned to talk.
  They need to redefine the poverty level in America and the definition 
of ``poverty.'' It is the Census Bureau's job, and that is what I 
talked to the good Secretary Howard Lutnick about. I talked to him in 
committee, and he said he would work on it. I thank him for that, and I 
am going to chase him like he stole Christmas until he does. I am going 
to chase him like he stole Christmas and Thanksgiving. He can do it 
with a rule or regulation. I have introduced a bill.
  Again, the purpose of this is not to take any money away from 
anybody; the purpose of this is to tell the American people the truth--
that they are the most generous people in the world and they should be 
proud of that.
  This mother, this poor mom of two--she is not just getting around 
$17,000 a year; she is getting almost $65,000 a year tax free, but the 
American people get no credit. And do you know why? Because there are 
so many people in the bureaucracy--they want us to think everybody is 
poor so they can go back and back and back to the taxpayer.
  Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary Lutnick, with all the respect I can 
muster, please fix this. Please fix this. And I am going to keep 
bringing it up until you do.
  I will pass a bill if I can, but it is going to be kind of tough. The 
short way home here is to have the Secretary--I don't mean disrespect--
to have the Secretary do his job.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The senior assistant executive clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I ask that the scheduled rollcall begin 
immediately.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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