[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 208 (Wednesday, December 10, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H5556-H5558]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
TURNING HEALTHCARE INTO FINANCIAL ENGINEERING
(Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 3, 2025, Mr.
Schweikert of Arizona was recognized until 10 p.m. as the designee of
the majority leader.)
Mr. SCHWEIKERT. Mr. Speaker, the good news is we have only until
10:00. The bad news is I am going to use every second of it. Let's race
through this because originally, I think I was going to go almost an
hour. Maybe this is mercy.
I want to walk through just a couple of concepts here. One, we are
going to talk about one of my intense frustrations. I have talked about
this for a decade or more. Please, how do I get my brothers and sisters
on the left and those on the right to understand we have turned the
whole discussion of healthcare into financial engineering? Work with me
on this.
Many of us know ACA as ObamaCare. It is a financing bill. It has
community rating in it, so the guaranteed access, but it is a financing
bill. It is who gets subsidized and who has to pay. Our Republican
alternative was a financing bill. It just had a little better actuarial
modeling in it. Medicare for all is a financing bill.
We don't have the discussion about what we pay, the waste, the fraud,
the adoption of technology, the adoption of cures, the adoption of how
we deliver, the adoption of making us autonomous because we can wear
our medical lab on our body now. I wear one of the data rings, and I
experimented with a Dexcom in the last couple of weeks.
Instead, we are going to beat each other up around here. The
Democrats are going to try to make a political issue out of it. We are
going to basically fumble because we had trouble explaining that we
have turned healthcare into financing. They want to hand out billions
and billions of dollars more to insurance companies to buy down rates.
Let's actually walk through some points I want to make. This is the
first one. I desperately hope this number evens out as we go through
the rest of the year.
Our model right now says in the first quarter of this fiscal year--
remember, October 1, we began the 2026 fiscal
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year. For every dollar we are taking in tax collections, Mr. Speaker,
we are spending $1.62. The original model was, every $1 in, we would
spend $1.42 or $1.43. Our spending is up.
What is driving that spending up? It is the refinancing of our debt
at higher interest rates, because we had all that debt we sold a few
years ago at very low interest rates. The fact of the matter is
healthcare costs keep going up. The stupid discussion we are going to
have here is a financing debate--how much more subsidies should we hand
out--and not a discussion of what we are going to do to change the
price of healthcare.
Let's actually take a quick run through this. I am going to try to
explain a couple of basic things about the ACA. Most of us know it as
ObamaCare.
This chart is hard to read from a distance. ACA goes into effect. I
want us to step all the way back out to where we are here when the
enhanced subsidies--these are subsidies on top of subsidies--is $40
billion. Over here, the basic subsidies, the growth of the subsidies
since the pandemic, is another $75 billion. On top of the base
subsidies, they are $80 billion. This is only 7 percent of the
healthcare market.
Let's take a look at that. This is so hard for people to understand.
I was listening to one of my Democrat colleagues speak the other day.
It was a complete distortion field of the truth and what was going on
out there. They say all the healthcare is going to go up this much.
Are they willing to admit they screwed up? They created an absolutely
distorted model. By screwing up all the incentives, everyone's
healthcare costs went up, even though the ACA, ObamaCare, is only this
little wedge here. It is 7 percent of the healthcare population.
The vast majority of the other population gets it through their
employer, veterans, Medicare, and Medicaid. Then I need my colleagues
to see this other wedge there. That is the portion that is not getting
subsidies from taxpayers. The rest of this right here is getting
subsidized.
I will show a chart in a moment where 41 percent of this population
that is being subsidized in the ACA had no premium at all. You as a
taxpayers bought their healthcare. Is that really what the Democrats
promised us? Does anyone remember President Obama saying that
healthcare premiums will be lowered by $2,500? Folks will get to keep
their doctors. Should we hold the left to their own standards?
As conservatives, we need to get off our heinies and start explaining
that if we continue this model, we are all screwed. We need to step up
and say we can do this better. We have technology where we can lower
premiums rather dramatically. I have been coming behind this microphone
for a decade. I will try to go fast enough to touch on it.
I did this board the other day. I just need to show you this is what
they call an economic scoring of the enhanced premium tax credits,
which is basically the subsidies on top of the subsidies.
Functionally, only 38 percent of that $40 billion is actually going
to cover actual insurance where people are going to use it. The vast
majority of it just disappears. It either doesn't get used, or it may
have disappeared with the brokers or the insurance companies. Something
is horribly wrong in this money.
Yet, when we actually start to look at the studies and articles, here
is the GAO report about the ACA. It has a simple line here.
``Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act: Preliminary Results
from Ongoing Review Suggest Fraud Risks in the Advance Premium Tax
Credit Persist.''
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Then you read it, Mr. Speaker, and it is page after page after page
of different types of fraud. People have been signed up and had no
idea. Brokers are going to prison right now because they have been
signing up folks in the system.
``ObamaCare Is a Mecca for Fraud,'' The Wall Street Journal from just
a couple days ago. ``Open Enrollment is Healthcare's Most Expensive
Lie.''
How many more studies do we need to explain that you are being
defrauded, Mr. Speaker?
If this were helping people be healthier, then bless it, but,
instead, the Democrats are terrified to tell the truth because the
model they built is only 7 percent of the population. Almost one-half
of that population is getting the healthcare for free, and it has
created a distortion field of costs.
I will give you a simple test, Mr. Speaker. Ask yourself, go back 10,
15 years ago. Let's go do 10 years ago when the ACA goes into effect.
Mr. Speaker, how much have your healthcare costs, your insurance
costs, changed?
Remember, Mr. Speaker, insurance is different from healthcare. How
much have your costs changed?
Did they meet the promise that was given to you: We are going to make
things more affordable.
It is not the Affordable Care Act, and that is the reality of the
math.
So let's continue to walk through parts of this.
The number of subsidized zero claims is fascinating. The enhanced
subsidies that came out after COVID were only supposed to be 5 years.
The Democrats voted for this. I don't think a single Republican did. It
was their plan. This was Democrat policy, and now they are acting all
uppity saying: Well, you Republicans need to fix our mistake.
Almost 11 million who were part of that enhanced population never
made a claim. We are now seeing studies, data mining, looking at a huge
portion of these people had no idea they had been signed up. It is
rampant fraud.
Let's have a little more fun here.
How many who were enrolled with these enhanced subsidies ended up
having no skin in the game at all and who had no cost?
Last year, 41 percent had no cost. You, as a taxpayer, Mr. Speaker,
paid for their healthcare. This year we modeled it. It is going to be
around 39 percent. Think about that, Mr. Speaker.
Is that what you were promised? Is that what you were told?
As we start to walk through this, 6.4 million people this year were
improperly enrolled in subsidized ObamaCare plans costing taxpayers $27
billion a year.
Understand, Mr. Speaker, what this means. It is rampant fraud.
Mr. Speaker, how many members of the Democratic Party, the left, have
you seen come behind the microphone saying: Hey, we really like
subsidized healthcare, and we really like the level of fraud, so we
don't want to change anything?
Mr. Speaker, 96 percent of all applications representing fake
enrollees were approved on the ObamaCare marketplace and received
subsidies. Understand, Mr. Speaker, do you remember, we were promised:
Well, the website is going to find fraud.
It turns out that 96 percent of the fraudulent applications going in
where someone is just bleeding the system got approved. The system
doesn't stop the fraud.
This is your money, Mr. Speaker. You are paying for fraudsters, and
you are paying for brokers who are going to jail.
Our debate here is: Well, we want to give another $40 billion to the
fraudsters, but there will be a portion of that that will get some
buydown on their healthcare costs.
In 2023, one Social Security number--and I used this one just because
it is so easy to understand. Remember, there is a system that is
supposed to be mining this for fraud--one Social Security number was
used and got 125 policies.
How do we not catch that?
We are really that bad at this.
I am not going to make you go through that.
Mr. Speaker, this chart is almost impossible to read. I am going to
put it up on my website. What you need to understand is that these are
the different ways people ended up in healthcare.gov or
healthcare.care. The broker community goes and walks you through, but
what we are discovering is that it has no actual checks for fraud.
Have the Democrats stepped up and said: Okay, we know a huge portion
of this cash we were handing out after COVID has been disappearing. It
is not going to make our brothers and sisters healthier and provide
them access to care. Are they willing--no, they are not--to actually
fix this system so we are not bleeding American taxpayers?
Now let's actually talk about some solutions.
First, I need everyone to understand how perverse the system is. I
have
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come behind the mike over and over and over and over and said: You have
this technology that you can wear, this thing you can blow into, this
thing here that can diagnose. This wearable here is actually more
accurate than a human doctor. The Apple watch now is an FDA approved
medical device for the heart, it should be allowed to prescribe. I need
you to understand, Mr. Speaker, how perverse healthcare has become
moneywise.
This one is absurd but it is easy to understand. Here are a couple of
articles: Paper industry, drugmakers spar over requirement to print
prescription forms.
Mr. Speaker, to show you how absurd the world has become, there was a
simple attempt to say: We are just going to put your prescriptions on
your phone so when you get them you can see all the side effects.
Mr. Speaker, do you know that all that paper that is printed? We had
lobbyists here and a U.S. Senator who blocked it saying: No, my paper
industry.
When the paper industry was able to stop a simple money-saving reform
because apparently cutting down trees and turning it into paper pulp
and printing it is more important than something that would have been
dramatically more efficient. It has gotten that absurd.
We attempted to basically run a piece of legislation because we did a
study on how they duplicate MRIs, X-rays, ultrasounds, and CTs there
are. We have some numbers that look like it could be as much as $25 to
$35 billion a year.
Do something crazy. When you get your knee MRI, Mr. Speaker, put the
data, the images on this so when you go to the next doctor a week
later, it is right there: Doctor, let me hand it to you. Not get
another scan.
We already have lobbyists running around the building saying: No, the
duplicate scans are part of our profit model.
Where are my own brothers and sisters, particularly on the
conservative side, saying: We want to unleash technology. We want to
unleash doing this a better, faster, and cheaper way?
For those Members who run around saying: PBM reform. Fine, but
understand that every study we have right now is that PBM reform saves
a fraction of a fraction of money, and it is already happening.
Mr. Speaker, you will start to see companies now ditching the
middleman and starting to sell directly. Go look up Civica RX for
anyone who is in front of a computer. It is a co-op making drugs,
selling insulin cheaper than our Federal Government-subsidized price.
The fact of the matter is legalizing, encouraging, and incentivizing
disruption in the market is where you get all sorts of different
channels. If PBM is the best price, God bless them. If the drug company
wants to sell directly to consumers, bless them. If a co-op wants to
get together with your Medicaid system, the hospital system, or
insurance company and they decide that we are going to manufacture our
own and we are going to do it cheaper than the government-subsidized
price, then bless them.
There are ways to crash the price of healthcare. We have one right
here. It is a discussion of AI. AI went through someone's medical bills
and started realizing how much mis-billing there was in there.
What if we did something very, very simple: Legalize one of my AI
billing--we call it clean claims. Where here is the doctor's note, here
is the insurance contract, they meet, and it gets paid.
How much staffing and other things would you save but also how much
more money?
We have the technology. I just can't seem to get our brothers and
sisters here willing to accept the bills.
Here is another one that is incredibly optimistic. If you have a
subscription to Wired magazine this week--Mr. Speaker, and it is
something we in our office have been working on for years now--they
call it a fentanyl vaccine. It is not technically a vaccine. It is a
protein binder that attaches to the drug making it so it can't pass the
brain-blood barrier. There is an entire article in Wired magazine.
We did some research. I had trouble believing this number. I had one
of my economists actually go back and double check it: $1.5 trillion in
2020 is the cost from fentanyl.
There are solutions, Mr. Speaker. We need to step up and start
understanding there is a moral way to approach the cost of healthcare,
and it is not a bunch more taxpayer subsidies. It is actually lowering
the price.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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