[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 196 (Thursday, November 20, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H4835-H4841]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




    RESEARCHING EFFICIENT FEDERAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR NECESSARY ENERGY 
                              REFINING ACT

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 879, I call up 
the bill (H.R. 3109) to require the Secretary of Energy to direct the 
National Petroleum Council to issue a report with respect to 
petrochemical refineries in the United States, and for other purposes, 
and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 879, the bill 
is considered read.
  The text of the bill is as follows:

                               H.R. 3109

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Researching Efficient 
     Federal Improvements for Necessary Energy Refining Act'' or 
     the ``REFINER Act''.

     SEC. 2. REPORT ON PETROCHEMICAL REFINERIES.

       Not later than 90 days after the date of enactment of this 
     section, the Secretary of Energy shall direct the National 
     Petroleum Council to--
       (1) submit to the Secretary of Energy and Congress a report 
     containing--
       (A) an examination of the role of petrochemical refineries 
     located in the United States and the contributions of such 
     petrochemical refineries to the energy security of the United 
     States, including the reliability of supply in the United 
     States of liquid fuels and feedstocks, and the affordability 
     of liquid fuels for consumers in the United States;
       (B) analyses and projections with respect to--
       (i) the capacity of petrochemical refineries located in the 
     United States;
       (ii) opportunities for expanding such capacity; and
       (iii) the risks to petrochemical refineries located in the 
     United States;
       (C) an assessment of any Federal or State executive 
     actions, regulations, or policies that have caused or 
     contributed to a decline in the capacity of petrochemical 
     refineries located in the United States; and
       (D) any recommendations for Federal agencies and Congress 
     to encourage an increase in the capacity of petrochemical 
     refineries located in the United States; and
       (2) make publicly available the report submitted under 
     paragraph (1).

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The bill shall be debatable for 1 hour, 
equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member 
of the Committee on Energy and Commerce or their respective designees.
  The gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie) and the gentleman from New 
Jersey (Mr. Pallone) each will control 30 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie).


                             General Leave

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks on this 
legislation and to include extraneous material on H.R. 3109.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Kentucky?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, the American economy is fueled by petrochemical 
refineries

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providing affordable diesel and gasoline to families, critical inputs 
for our manufacturers, and products imperative for the maintenance of 
our defense systems.
  The national security component of a viable refining industry cannot 
be overstated, and we must not forfeit these essential supply chains.
  Under the previous administration, we saw the impact of an energy 
retreat: higher prices for families and businesses, emboldened 
adversaries, sluggish economies, and increasing reliance on other 
nations.
  Unfortunately, this is still the case in States like California, 
where a hostile regulatory environment has forced refineries to reduce 
operations. In fact, the Golden State is expected to lose 17 percent of 
its capacity in the next year. This has led to an average gasoline 
price of nearly $5 per gallon, an increased fuel dependence on Asian 
producers, and jeopardizing the fuel supply chain of military 
installations in their State.
  We must not let this become status quo across the country. H.R. 3109 
requires the National Petroleum Council to collect and examine 
information regarding the role of petrochemical refineries in the 
United States and their contributions to affordability, security, and 
reliability. The report will assess opportunities to expand capacity as 
well as current risks to refineries.
  H.R. 3109 will provide the Committee on Energy and Commerce the 
information we need to enact policies to deliver affordable, reliable, 
and clean energy to all Americans.
  I thank Representative Latta, the chairman of the Energy 
Subcommittee, for his leadership on this issue.
  I urge all of my colleagues to support H.R. 3109, and I reserve the 
balance of my time.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this bill, which is a complete 
and utter waste of the House of Representatives' time.
  It asks the National Petroleum Council to do a study, and that is it. 
That is the entire bill. In my opinion, to ask the National Petroleum 
Council to do something it can already do on its own makes absolutely 
no sense.
  The House was out of session for over 50 days because Speaker Johnson 
refused to bring Congress back to resolve the healthcare crisis created 
by Republicans and to reopen the government. Now, Speaker Johnson 
claims we will be working day and night on important problems. I 
certainly agree that we should be doing that. We should be working on 
problems that Americans care about, but millions of Americans are 
seeing their healthcare costs skyrocket because the President and 
Republicans refuse to extend critical tax credits that make healthcare 
more affordable for millions of Americans.
  Millions more are paying thousands of dollars more a year for 
everyday goods because of the President's tariffs. These tariffs are 
attacks on the American people, and they are expected to cost families 
more than $2,000 each year when they take full effect.
  Meanwhile, prices on everything from utilities to food to energy, 
even prices for Thanksgiving dinner next week, are going up.
  You would think that House Republicans would be doing something, 
anything, anything at all to fight these high prices. Instead, we are 
here talking about a bill that requires a Big Oil and Gas lobby group 
to put together a report. That is it.
  I cannot stress enough that this report is simply not needed, 
regardless of who does it. In fact, it is almost an insult, 
particularly to refinery workers on the East Coast, including my State 
of New Jersey, who don't need a study to tell them why refining 
capacity here has dropped by over one third in the last decade. It all 
goes back to the repeal of the crude oil export ban in 2015.
  You don't have to take my word for it. The nonpartisan Government 
Accountability Office found in a 2020 report--that was a report--that 
domestic refinery margins suffered in the wake of the repeal. This bill 
only asks for the report to assess executive actions, regulations, or 
policies that have impacted refineries, not a change in the law. If it 
were dealing with a change in the law, I think that would make sense.
  It is a massive, massive oversight to not talk about the law and what 
happened when the crude oil export ban was lifted 10 years ago. That is 
what caused the problem with refineries.
  The most ridiculous part of this bill is that it demands the study 
not be done by the Department of Energy but by the National Petroleum 
Council, an industry advisory body for Big Oil and Gas. I have no doubt 
that the National Petroleum Council will produce a biased report that 
will likely complain about every environmental regulation that they 
don't like, but that protects the American people. That is what 
Republicans have been doing: repealing all the environmental 
regulations.
  If Republicans wanted an unbiased view of domestic refining 
challenges, they would have asked the Department of Energy to craft a 
report. That is not what they are looking for because Republicans just 
want to sanction fossil fuel propaganda. That is what they are doing 
with this bill.

  It is a waste of everyone's time, Mr. Speaker. It is just another 
example of how Republicans have absolutely no ideas to help American 
families lower everyday costs.
  We need to be working on real solutions, Democrats and Republicans, 
to address the affordability crisis. That is what the American people 
want, not this report.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  When I was a young man in the 1970s--when I was a kid, I guess, in 
the 1970s--I remember gas lines and having to push my father's car to 
get gasoline. At the time, everybody said we were going to run out of 
crude oil. That was the thing, running out of crude oil.
  I appreciate the gentleman bringing up the crude oil issue. It is 
actually because of the ingenuity of the American people that we have 
an abundance of crude oil. The issue isn't crude oil. It is the 
refining capacity.
  Since I was a kid, we found this abundance of crude oil in the 
Permian Basin, North Dakota, and all the places I can name. We have 
more oil than they have in the Middle East, which, when I was a kid, a 
lot of it was coming from the Middle East.
  Then, you have this chokepoint of refining capacity. We haven't built 
a new refinery in the United States since I was a kid, so that is the 
thing that we want to address. That is the issue we want to address. We 
do want prices to go down. We don't want it to be $5 a gallon.
  I was putting gas in a rental car in California, and I looked over at 
the guy next to me. I paid probably $2.60 a gallon in Kentucky, and I 
think it was $4.80 there. I said: Do you guys have any idea what the 
rest of America is paying for gasoline?
  We are here to address it, and we are addressing it by a bill 
authored by my good friend, the chairman of the Energy Subcommittee, a 
member of the Energy and Commerce Committee, and a leader in this 
arena.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. 
Latta).

                              {time}  1310

  Mr. LATTA. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend, the chairman of the full 
committee of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of my bill, H.R. 3109, the REFINER 
Act. This legislation will direct the National Petroleum Council to 
report to Congress and the Department of Energy on petrochemical 
refiners in the United States.
  This legislation is essential to ensuring that the U.S. can reliably 
produce enough refined products domestically. The Energy Information 
Administration projects global demand for liquid fuels to increase by 
about 20 million barrels per day by 2050. Alarmingly, over the last 
several years, North America has lost an estimated 1 million barrels of 
fuel per day due to low refining capacity.
  The last report from the National Petroleum Council on refining was 
completed over 20 years ago.
  The report must include information concerning the contribution of 
refineries to U.S. energy security; capacity projections of U.S. 
petrochemical refineries; opportunities for expanding capacities and 
risks to those refineries; an assessment of any State or Federal 
executive actions, regulations, or policies that have caused or 
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a decline in U.S. petrochemical refinery capacity; and recommendations 
for how to increase refinery capacity.
  American refineries have played a crucial role in providing secure, 
affordable, and high-value petroleum products to global customers. 
Importantly, this legislation would help identify States that have 
caused or contributed to a decline in U.S. petrochemical refinery 
capacity.
  Hostile regulatory environments, like in California, have led to the 
shuttering of several refineries. California used to be home to over 40 
refineries in the 1980s. This number has now decreased to 14 as of last 
year, with two additional refineries slated to close in early 2026.
  These anticipated closures will disrupt fuel supplies and increase 
energy prices for consumers, businesses, and farmers.
  An analysis by the University of Southern California anticipates 
retail gas prices in the State could increase by as much as 75 percent 
under certain conditions. The bottom line: Fewer refineries result in 
supply disruptions and higher fuel prices for Americans.
  The REFINER Act seeks to produce a detailed roadmap to strengthen and 
expand refinery capacity to increase American energy security and 
economic growth.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the legislation, and I 
thank the chairman for yielding.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, my point is that this report does not ask 
the people that are doing it to look into the change of law that would 
be necessary in order to bring refineries back.
  The reason why we lost so many refineries, particularly on the East 
Coast and New Jersey, was because the ban on the export of crude oil 
was lifted 10 years ago. You don't need a refinery if you can export 
the crude, but this report doesn't address that at all.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the gentlewoman 
from Florida (Ms. Castor), the ranking member of our Energy 
Subcommittee.
  Ms. CASTOR of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for 
yielding the time.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.R. 3109.
  I know my Republican colleagues want to pretend that this is a 
simple, unbiased study bill, but it is not. The bill asks the National 
Petroleum Council, a council that is made up of members from the oil 
and gas industry, to create a report that says that the United States 
needs more oil and gas. I fear that what this is a recipe for is higher 
electric bills and higher costs for hardworking Americans who already 
are being crushed by higher bills.
  There are unbiased public servants who could write this report--for 
example, at the Department of Energy--but, of course, Elon Musk and the 
Trump administration have pushed out more than 3,500 public servants 
there. As a result, the Department of Energy is in trouble. The 
Department has even had to ask external lawyers for things like 
defending against challenges relating to their illegal cancelations of 
projects across the country.
  To bring this bill at a time when people really want to see the 
Congress work to solve problems, I think, demonstrates that Members are 
out of touch. It is part of a very disturbing Republican trend, led by 
the President, to purge the government of real experts and to slash and 
burn, like medical research, finding the cures and treatments that we 
need to survive and thrive; trying to illegally dismantle the 
Department of Education; and going after public health and really 
ruining a lot of the expert public health advice that helps keep our 
neighbors healthy and safe.
  Then, here, when we are talking about oil and gas and their 
lobbyists, they are so firmly in control of the agenda here in the 
United States Congress. I just think my colleagues are not solving 
problems. Watching the President just remain out of touch is so painful 
to people back home that they feel betrayed.
  Even during the Republican shutdown, was the President focused on 
trying to negotiate a solution there or trying to take us out of the 
healthcare crisis? No. He was giving the White House a makeover. He 
tore down the entire East Wing to make way for a 90,000-square-foot, 
$300 million ballroom, funded by corporations that have a lot to gain 
monetarily; and he had ``Great Gatsby'' parties at Mar-a-Lago with 
dancing girls. It is just mind-boggling.
  Back to electric bills. Let's not forget that President Trump 
convened oil industry executives and lobbyists at his home last year to 
ask for $1 billion for his Presidential campaign. Well, now they are 
coming to collect.
  Even after almost 2 months, when Speaker Johnson had the House of 
Representatives shut down because he didn't want to find a solution to 
rising healthcare costs and he wanted to avoid a vote to release the 
Epstein files, we could have been focusing on, behind the scenes, some 
ways to lower costs and solve real problems, but they continue to bring 
bills like this: a study on how we produce more oil and gas.

  Here is the connection to higher bills. While they want to pad the 
profits of oil and gas companies, what they are doing to sabotage jobs 
and cleaner, cheaper energy now is showing up in people's electric 
bills, and they are angry.
  I was with neighbors a couple of weeks ago who were burning their 
electric bills because costs are increasing so dramatically.
  Why? On January 20, the President froze Federal leasing for wind 
projects and blocked permits for projects that had already been 
approved.
  On February 5, the Army Corps of Engineers halted permits for 168 
renewable energy projects on private lands.
  In March, as part of his tariff war, he imposed a 10 percent tax on 
energy imported from Canada, hitting Midwestern States with higher gas 
prices.
  In April, the Trump administration abruptly fired the entire staff 
overseeing the low-income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps 
working families afford their utility bills. Weeks later, the White 
House proposed cutting it entirely.
  In May, the Secretary of Energy ordered an old Michigan coal plant to 
stay online, forcing the company to spend nearly $1 million a day. 
These are costs that are passed on to families across the Midwest.
  In June, the Trump administration's EPA proposed a rule to allow coal 
and gas power plants to emit unlimited amounts of climate pollution, 
locking us into a dirtier and more expensive future.
  In July, Republicans passed their big, ugly bill, which will saddle 
American families with price hikes of at least $110 next year and up to 
$4,000 annually within a decade.
  In August, EPA announced an illegal cancellation of the $7 billion 
Solar for All Grant Initiative, which was intended to bring affordable 
energy to more than 900,000 hardworking American households.
  In September, the Trump administration unveiled a more than $600 
million bailout for coal plants to keep them online.
  In October, while shutting down the government to deny Americans 
access to affordable healthcare, the White House tried to claw back 
billions in clean energy funds.
  These actions are costly, and American families deserve better. We 
should be working together to solve problems and not wasting time on 
trying to figure out how we pad the profits of industries. Instead, we 
should be looking out for the pocketbooks of the people who sent us 
here. People deserve better. Hardworking Americans expect better of 
this Congress.
  I hope that we can send a message on this bill and the next one that 
we are not going to put up with it anymore. We want real solutions to 
lower the cost of living.

                              {time}  1320


                Announcement By the Speaker Pro Tempore

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will remind all persons in the 
gallery that they are here as guests of the House and that any 
manifestation of approval or disapproval of proceedings is in violation 
of the rules of the House.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  It is frustrating that we lost 42 days because our side of the aisle 
wanted to open the government and wanted to have the government 
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wanted to sit down and work through the issues before us, not choosing 
to not fund the government.
  I was always embarrassed to even look in the eye--I voted for all of 
it--to go see a TSA agent at the airport in Nashville in my home State 
of Tennessee where I fly out of, the FAA people going to work at the 
airport. I was embarrassed coming here and seeing the people sitting in 
front of us here, the people guarding the doors of the Capitol 
building, with no respect, having them come to work without respect and 
paying them. That was extremely frustrating to me. It is just beyond 
pale that that happened.
  On the Epstein files, the Speaker tried to come and unanimous consent 
the Epstein files. Remember, last week he came down and said let's pass 
the Epstein files, and the other side of the aisle objected to it. I 
don't know why they would object to passing the files.
  They held it up for several days. I know there were a few rallies 
that happened, and then we all voted. It was 427-1. Were they trying to 
get the Epstein files out, or were they trying to make sure people got 
in town for their rallies? That is what I would like to know.
  The National Petroleum Council that we are referring to in this bill 
is a part of the Department of Energy. All through government, we have 
councils of people that are experts in their fields who come to D.C. 
The Department of Labor has them. People from the labor community come 
and have councils to give advice on bills.
  We know we have ample crude. We know the ingenuity of the American 
people to have ample crude. What we are talking about today is where 40 
refineries in California have gone to 14. If you want affordability, 
not only do you have to be able to get the crude out of the ground, you 
have to refine it to where we can use it.
  As we are shrinking refining capacity in this country and increasing 
demand, if we don't increase supply, we are not going to have 
affordability. You can talk about affordability all you want, but you 
have got to have the supply to address it. That is what we are focused 
on doing today.
  We want the experts to give us their information. We don't have to do 
what they say. We want to take their information, take the good ideas 
and try to implement them into where we can provide lower prices.
  If you think this doesn't work, come buy gas in Kentucky. Then go to 
my good friends who are sitting here from California and buy gas in 
their State, then tell us what does efficient energy policy do for 
affordability. I will challenge them to do that. I will say you can buy 
the most expensive gas in Kentucky, and we will compare that to what is 
going on in California.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. 
Carter), my good friend and very important member of the Energy and 
Commerce Committee.
  Mr. CARTER of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of H.R. 
3109, the REFINER Act.
  For too long, America has fallen behind in refining capacity. In 
fact, we have lost an estimated 1 million barrels of fuel per day due 
to low refining capacity.
  The Biden administration declared war on American energy by 
suspending oil and gas leasing on Federal lands, delaying permits for 
energy infrastructure, and canceling the Keystone XL pipeline.
  With President Trump and House Republicans in charge, those days are 
over with now.
  The REFINER Act offers a commonsense solution to this critical issue. 
This bill requires the National Petroleum Council to submit a report to 
Congress analyzing the capacity of American refining and recommending 
how we can increase our refining capacity.
  The American people elected us to lower prices, especially prices at 
the pump. This bill will provide crucial data and guidance on how we 
can best reinforce our domestic energy infrastructure and help ensure 
fuel costs are low for Americans.
  This bill is an important step toward delivering American energy 
dominance. It is something the President has worked on and is diligent 
about.
  If we are going to power domestic manufacturing, if we are going to 
beat China in the AI race, and then deliver on affordable energy for 
all, we must ensure that domestic refining can keep up.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend Representative Latta for introducing 
this important piece of legislation, and I urge its immediate adoption.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, listening to my colleagues on the 
Republican side of the aisle, this report obviously does absolutely 
nothing to address the prices of power and electricity that continues 
to go up.
  Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a document from the Joint 
Economic Committee, as well as a link to the document located at: 
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/22e24fd6-4db7-44c6-93a9-
9710c6f48b85/electricity-bills-report.pdf

        [From the Joint Economic Committee Minority, Nov. 2025]

  State-by-State Data: Annual Electricity Bills Up $100 Per Family in 
                                  2025

       Last year, President Donald Trump repeatedly promised that 
     energy bills across the country would be ``cut in half'' 
     within 12 months. However, this new Joint Economic 
     Committee--Minority analysis finds that electricity costs are 
     increasing significantly, with households in nearly every 
     state on track to pay more for electricity this year compared 
     to last year.
       The Committee estimated full-year 2025 electricity costs 
     per state based on the monthly electricity bill data released 
     by the federal Energy Information Administration (EIA) for 
     January-August of 2025. The Committee projects that annual 
     electricity costs will be at least 5 percent higher than last 
     year in 37 states plus D.C., and at least 10 percent higher 
     than last year in 10 states plus D.C. On average, the 
     Committee projects that American households will pay 
     approximately $100 more per household in electricity costs 
     this year.

  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, last year, as I think everyone knows, 
President Donald Trump repeatedly promised that energy bills across the 
country would be cut in half within 12 months of his taking office. 
This shows a State-by-State analysis of how much electricity bills have 
gone up instead of being cut.
  Just to mention to my two colleagues, here in Kentucky, it says that 
they have gone up 11.8 percent; in Ohio, 9.9 percent; in New Jersey, 
13.6 percent. Certainly nothing like the cut in half that President 
Donald Trump promised. This report projects that American households 
will pay approximately $100 more per household in electricity costs 
this year.
  We are going to deal with this pricing issue when we get to the next 
bill about LNG, which, again, is only going to increase prices. It is 
clear that the Republicans have no intention of dealing with this 
crisis of affordability with electric or power bills, as well.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman 
from California (Mr. DeSaulnier).
  Mr. DeSAULNIER. Mr. Speaker, I will say to my friend from Kentucky 
that it has been a long time since you have been to the Bay Area, so I 
will take you up on your offer.
  One of the reasons I wanted to come down and speak to this is because 
I represent an area in the Bay Area that has five refineries in it. 
They have been valuable tax providers and employers for many years. One 
of them is about to close and another one is in the process of closing. 
Two others have spent billions of dollars to work on transitional 
fuels, to put investment into those refineries to produce biofuels that 
are part of the transition to cleaner, safer, more economical energy 
sources. The last one, Chevron, is doing both.
  I must say I am reminded, as I sit here, to the same arguments 30 
years ago having been involved at the local level in California about 
secondhand smoke and tobacco when the tobacco industry was insisting 
that the Tobacco Institute do studies about the cost to smokers by 
passing secondhand smoke ordinances that figured out the full cost to 
consumers for people who didn't smoke.
  As a former restaurant owner, who didn't allow people to smoke, it 
just reminds me of the same thing. I believe in research because I have 
worked with a refinery and oil companies for many years. I was one of 
those regulators. I represented the Bay Area on the California Air 
Resources Board for 10 years. I was appointed by two Republicans, by 
the way, and one Democrat.
  What we have done is, we are transitioning. Twenty-five percent of 
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year were EVs. They were alternative fuels. We knew this was coming. We 
have tried to work and invest in the refinery community on how we 
transition for the local government, who required those taxes, and for 
the employers-employees who need those jobs.
  Let's do research on how we transition and give States the ability to 
transition, if they choose, and local governments to transition. While 
I value the research, let's be honest about having more research that 
is more objective and consider the full cost to changing our energy.
  Almost 50 million Americans live within a mile of a refinery or a 
heavy processing plant. Their public health costs are 
disproportionately affected by what we know from traditional 
pollutants, particulate matter, and smog. Then when you add carbon into 
it, the economic model changes completely.
  Mr. Speaker, I suggest to Mr. Guthrie, before he comes out to the Bay 
Area, we have a collegial conversation and we can go to those 
refineries. I would particularly like to take him to the ones that have 
invested on the transition because we know we need a transition for 
those of us who want to go to as near-zero emissions as possible, and 
we are succeeding.
  I will remind my colleagues, too, across the aisle that the Chinese 
are our global competition. The Chinese auto manufacturing industry is 
about to become the largest auto manufacturer in the world. They are 
all EVs.
  They are moving to this. While we try to protect traditional energy 
sources, let's be smart about the transition economically for American 
consumers and taxpayers.
  I don't disagree with looking at capacity, but let's do it in a 
broader and more objective way that tells the full story as truthfully 
as possible, so we as policymakers can be more thoughtful about the 
short-term impacts of our policy decisions, as well as in the midterm 
and long term.

                              {time}  1330

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my friend from California, and I actually 
do love going to California. I haven't been in the bay area in a couple 
of years, and we will figure out an opportunity to come there. My 
family tries to go to California as much as we can. I know he is from 
the beautiful bay area. Actually, when I was talking about the high 
price of gas, it was down in southern California, which has its own 
beauty, as well.
  I am a fan of California. Other than Kentucky, I think California is 
one of the prettiest States we have in the Union. From the redwoods to 
the Yosemite Valley, it is absolutely stunning. I absolutely would love 
to come back out to the bay area because it is beautiful, as well.
  In this bill, we are talking about electricity prices. China is 
building the electric car industry, but they are also building the 
power generation, like a coal plant a week, I think, to provide the 
energy for that.
  This bill we are talking about is on gasoline and diesel. Remember, 
everything that arrives to a store comes on a truck. Sometimes they 
come on a train, but the last mile is almost always or is always a 
truck. Diesel prices, fuel prices, matter in terms of food prices and 
about everything else that we consume.
  This is important to do. Electric affordability is also important to 
do, and we are committed. We will work together to get our prices down, 
but we have to produce more.
  That is what we are wondering. How do we efficiently, effectively, 
safely, and cleanly produce more gasoline and diesel? You can't do it 
without more refining capacity unless you decrease demand for it. That 
is not the avenue we have to go, either.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. 
Weber), my good friend and the vice chair of the Subcommittee on Energy 
of the Committee on Energy and Commerce.
  Mr. WEBER of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for the time.
  Mr. Speaker, it is interesting to me that our friends across the 
aisle say that we already have enough oil. It is also interesting that 
President Obama, when he--the gentleman from Georgia, Buddy Carter, 
mentioned the Keystone pipeline. It would have come into my district in 
Texas, 830,000 barrels of oil a day. That is what we are talking about 
refining on the Gulf Coast of Texas. If you transfer that to 18-
wheelers, it is about 5,253 18-wheeler tankers on the road every day. 
The pipeline is the best way to do this.
  Mr. Speaker, in Texas, we understand better than anyone else that 
America's energy strength depends on what happens to the oil after it 
comes out of the ground. The Keystone pipeline is a good example.
  Mr. Speaker, it is our refineries, the men and women who run them, 
and the communities built around those businesses that turn our 
resources into fuels and products that power everyday life.
  The REFINER Act takes on a question that Washington has ignored for 
far too long: Are we doing enough to protect and expand America's 
ability to refine the energy we produce? Right now, unfortunately, the 
answer is no, we are not.
  Over the last several years, America's refining capacity has gone 
backward. We have lost more than a million barrels of capacity per day, 
and several facilities have shut down altogether. The gentleman from 
California mentioned one of them.
  In several States, hostile policies are pushing refineries out so 
fast that families are now facing higher prices and increased 
dependence on foreign fuel.
  That is not how you build energy security, Mr. Speaker. That is how 
you weaken it.
  Meanwhile, global demand for fuels is still rising and is expected to 
grow as much as 20 million barrels a day by 2050.
  The world isn't slowing down, Mr. Speaker, and neither should 
American energy.
  The REFINER Act takes a serious look at that situation, directs the 
National Petroleum Council to review our refining capacity, identify 
where we are vulnerable, and highlight opportunities for us to expand. 
In other words, it gives us the facts we need to strengthen a critical 
part of our energy supply chain.
  When refineries close, families suffer; small businesses suffer; 
transportation costs rise; and prices jump at the pump. The whole 
region becomes dependent on foreign suppliers.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Williams of Texas). The time of the 
gentleman has expired.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield an additional 1 minute to the 
gentleman from Texas.
  Mr. WEBER of Texas. Mr. Speaker, that is exactly the opposite of the 
energy dominance vision that we are working toward under President 
Trump.
  Let me tell you this, Mr. Speaker--you know this--in Texas, we know 
what happens when refineries thrive. We fuel the Nation. We even supply 
our allies. We make money doing this, and we support thousands of good-
paying jobs.
  The REFINER Act recognizes that refining isn't an afterthought. It is 
a foundational piece of our national security, as well as our economic 
strength.
  I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 3109.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, other than the Commonwealth 
of Kentucky, California is one of those beautiful States in our--they 
are all beautiful, actually. We live in a wonderful country. There is 
nothing prettier than the tunnel view from Yosemite Valley.

  I don't know, with your lines changing so much, but I know my good 
friend from California used to represent our beautiful natural 
resources in the National Park of Yosemite Valley. He still does.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. 
McClintock), my good friend and a classmate elected the same year.
  Mr. McCLINTOCK. Mr. Speaker, no one has suffered more than 
Californians because of the left's war on fossil fuels. Forty years of 
folly are now driving energy prices out of reach for working families 
and driving those working families out of California.
  In 1980, 40 refineries served the California market, producing 
abundant gasoline at easily affordable prices. Mr. Latta said 14 
refineries were left. His numbers are old. We are now down to

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nine refineries, and two more of those, Phillips in southern California 
and Valero in northern California, are closing by April. That will 
leave us just seven refineries to serve the State.
  Californians already pay the highest gasoline prices in the United 
States, averaging $4.64 a gallon as of yesterday. The same gallon costs 
only $2.56 in Oklahoma.
  When we lose these next two refineries, economists at UC Berkeley 
predict Californians will be paying more than $8 a gallon by the 
summer. Leftwing zealots like Gavin Newsom obsess over a 1-degree rise 
in global temperatures over the next century, but they couldn't care 
less that they are making it impossible for growing numbers of 
Californians to heat their homes or get to work.
  This is not only a quality-of-life issue for Californians and a 
cautionary tale for the rest of the country. It is a national security 
risk, as well. Forty military bases depend on these dwindling West 
Coast refineries. As California strangles production, we must 
increasingly rely on foreign imports from our enemies.
  H.R. 3109 requires the National Petroleum Council to report on ways 
to reverse such foolish and self-destructive policies. What has 
happened to California is the predictable result of bad policy made by 
fools.
  I hope the REFINER Act will shine a light on their folly and 
recommend ways to reverse the damage that they have caused before they 
can do any more harm to our Nation's prosperity and security.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Fong), who is from Bakersfield, California, and was 
elected just recently to Congress.
  Mr. FONG. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 3109, 
the REFINER Act.
  This legislation is critical to unleashing our energy potential, 
lowering costs for hardworking families, and protecting our national 
security.
  U.S. refineries are vital to our energy ecosystem. They convert crude 
oil into fuels and countless products, ranging from shoes and plastics 
to cell phones, computers, solar panels, medical devices, and even 
space suits. They make gasoline and diesel for our cars and trucks, and 
they make jet fuel for our planes.
  Yet, over the past few years, our refining capacity has declined due 
to burdensome Federal and State policies.
  I know this bitter reality all too well in my home State of 
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  From 2020 to 2022, we lost more than 1 million barrels of production 
capacity per day, and refinery closures are projected to slash that 
capacity by 20 percent over the next year. Twenty percent of our 
refining capacity is going to disappear overnight.
  Since 2018, over 360 energy companies have left California. Oil 
production has dropped by 47 million barrels over the past 5 years, and 
foreign imports now account for over 60 percent of our crude supply in 
California.
  Californians pay nearly $5 a gallon. In fact, Californians are paying 
the highest gas and electricity prices in the Nation, thanks to 
Governor Gavin Newsom's radical-left failed energy policies. California 
has an affordability crisis that Governor Gavin Newsom created, but 
this crisis also goes well beyond the pump.
  As California fuel production declines, it jeopardizes our national 
security and undermines our military readiness, as multiple strategic 
military bases rely on California fuel. With threats from our foreign 
adversaries, like China, only continuing to grow, we cannot risk 
leaving our defenses weakened.
  The REFINER Act is common sense. It will help identify ways to expand 
refining capacity, protect our energy infrastructure, and strengthen 
our national security.
  Mr. Speaker, we must act now to restore American energy dominance, 
secure affordable fuel for families, and protect our Nation's military 
defense. I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 3109.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time to 
close.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge President Trump and my Republican colleagues to 
start taking the American affordability crisis seriously. President 
Trump is simply out of touch with the reality that American families 
are facing.
  Earlier this week, he seemed to mockingly suggest that 
``affordability'' is a word the Democrats made up to attack him. Well, 
that is rich coming from a man who has declared bankruptcy six times. 
The American people are hurting because of President Trump and the 
Republican policies, and they should not be mocked for that. Even FOX 
News reported last night that 76 percent of Americans view the economy 
negatively.
  Americans are struggling to afford basic necessities. A new report 
from The Century Foundation found that utility prices are up 32 percent 
since 2022. That is nearly three times the rate of inflation. Nearly a 
quarter of that jump occurred just this year alone. These rising costs 
are debilitating to the middle class. Nearly 1 in 20 households are in 
severe utility debt.
  Roughly 4 million Americans are at risk of having their utility bills 
sent to collections. It is an incredible number. They have done nothing 
wrong. They just can't afford to keep up with the exponential rise in 
electricity prices. They can't afford to pay the bill.
  Now, the two bills that are on the floor today, in my opinion, will 
only increase the average utility bill even further. Just last week, 
the U.S. Energy Information Association found that natural gas prices 
will rise by 16 percent in 2026, primarily due to increased LNG exports 
amid flat production growth.
  Secretary Chris Wright promised to double LNG exports to countries 
like China within 5 years. The next bill that we are going to consider 
is all about giving more LNG to China, to Beijing, to Communist China. 
Why are we helping them?
  The American people desperately need a solution to lower energy costs 
at home. Why does the President or the Secretary refuse to take care of 
the American people that the Trump administration is supposed to 
represent?
  Now, I have said it before, but it bears repeating: The Trump 
administration only cares about bailing out themselves and their fossil 
fuel friends.
  It is time for Republicans to come to the table to work with 
Democrats on a solution to this affordability crisis, and it can begin 
here with the Energy and Commerce Committee.
  I urge my colleagues to oppose this bill, and I yield back the 
balance of my time, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time to 
close.
  Mr. Speaker, we are all concerned about rising prices. My friend from 
New Jersey talked about since 2022, and he said the emphasis is on what 
has happened in the first few months of this year.
  The decisions were made prior to the present Trump administration to 
take power offline. I know in my community down in Bowling Green, 
Kentucky, a few years ago with the polar vortex, we actually had 
blackouts, we had to have rolling blackouts because of taking power 
offline.
  We all want to address it. The way we address this is not taking 
power offline, not building new, safer--my good friend from California 
talked about what they are doing in California to make refineries 
cleaner and safer, and that is what we want. We want refineries to 
refine in a safe, responsible, and sustainable way. We can work 
together to do that.
  On the LNG we are going to talk about in just a few minutes, we do 
have the gas in our country. We have people who can develop, 
particularly in your home State, Mr. Speaker. The problem is, can we 
move it to where it needs to go. We know the challenge isn't the access 
to gas, it is actually moving it to where it needs to be.
  We need to work together. I think Natural Resources today had a 
markup, T&I is working on a markup, and we hopefully can work together 
as Members across the aisle in the Energy and Commerce Committee to do 
our share to make sure this explosive growth of energy is not just in 
gas and diesel but also in electricity. We need every electron we can 
produce to beat China.
  Talking about China, China is struggling and working as hard as they 
can to beat us to control the data that flows around the world through 
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is our job on this committee to see that that doesn't happen for this 
country, and that is because we have to have enough energy.

  Again, this is a Department of Energy council, made up of people in 
the industry, to give us a report to see where we should go in making 
sure that America has proper refining. It is not a report that is going 
to produce what we do. It is the kind of report that informs us in what 
we do. I know on our side of the aisle--I think on both sides of the 
aisle--we try to take as much information as we can to make a 
reasonable decision to make sure we have clean, sustainable, but ample 
and safe fuel for this country in order to get groceries to the grocery 
store, either through diesel or gasoline.
  Prices matter. It hurts families when their electric bills are high 
and when their grocery bills are high because people have to eat and 
they have to have a safe and clean place to live. This is what this is 
about. This is what our struggle is over, and this is what we are going 
to accomplish as a committee.
  Mr. Speaker, I encourage a ``yes'' vote on H.R. 3109, and I yield 
back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time for debate has expired.
  Pursuant to House Resolution 879, the previous question is ordered on 
the bill.
  The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further 
proceedings on this question will be postponed.

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