[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 153 (Thursday, September 18, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H4433-H4437]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




 GUARANTEEING RELIABILITY THROUGH THE INTERCONNECTION OF DISPATCHABLE 
                               POWER ACT

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 707, I call up 
the bill (H.R. 1047) to require the Federal Energy Regulatory 
Commission to reform the interconnection queue process for the 
prioritization and approval of certain projects, and for other 
purposes, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Moran). Pursuant to House Resolution 
707, in lieu of the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended 
by the Committee on Energy and Commerce printed in the bill, an 
amendment in the nature of a substitute consisting of the text of Rules 
Committee Print 119-9 is adopted, and the bill, as amended, is 
considered read.
  The text of the bill, as amended, is as follows:
       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Guaranteeing Reliability 
     through the Interconnection of Dispatchable Power Act'' or 
     the ``GRID Power Act''.

     SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.

       In this Act:
       (1) Bulk-power system.--The term ``bulk-power system'' has 
     the meaning given the term in section 215(a) of the Federal 
     Power Act (16 U.S.C. 824o(a)).
       (2) Commission.--The term ``Commission'' means the Federal 
     Energy Regulatory Commission.
       (3) Dispatchable power.--The term ``dispatchable power'' 
     means an electric energy generation resource capable of 
     providing known and forecastable electric supply in time 
     intervals necessary to ensure grid reliability.
       (4) Grid reliability.--The term ``grid reliability'' means 
     the ability of the electric grid to deliver an adequate, 
     secure, and stable flow of electricity in the quantity and 
     with the quality demanded by users, taking into account the 
     ability of the bulk-power system to withstand sudden 
     disturbances.
       (5) Grid resilience.--The term ``grid resilience'' means 
     the ability of the electric grid to adapt to changing 
     physical conditions and withstand and rapidly recover from 
     significant disturbances, including natural disasters, cyber-
     attacks, and other unforeseen events.
       (6) Independent system operator.--The term ``Independent 
     System Operator'' has the meaning given the term in section 3 
     of the Federal Power Act (16 U.S.C. 796).
       (7) Regional transmission organization.--The term 
     ``Regional Transmission Organization'' has the meaning given 
     the term in section 3 of the Federal Power Act (16 U.S.C. 
     796).
       (8) Resource adequacy.--The term ``resource adequacy'' 
     means the ability of the electric system to meet the 
     aggregate electrical demand and energy requirements of end-
     use customers at all times, accounting for scheduled and 
     reasonably expected unscheduled outages of bulk-power system 
     components.
       (9) Transmission provider.--The term ``transmission 
     provider'' means--
       (A) a public utility (as defined in section 201(e) of the 
     Federal Power Act (16 U.S.C. 824(e))) that owns, operates, or 
     controls 1 or more transmission facilities;
       (B) an Independent System Operator; and
       (C) a Regional Transmission Organization.

     SEC. 3. RULEMAKING TO IMPROVE INTERCONNECTION QUEUE 
                   FLEXIBILITY.

       (a) In General.--Not later than 90 days after the date of 
     enactment of this Act, the Commission shall initiate a 
     rulemaking--
       (1) to address the inefficiencies and ineffectiveness of 
     existing procedures for processing interconnection requests 
     to ensure that new dispatchable power projects that improve 
     grid reliability and resource adequacy can interconnect to 
     the electric grid quickly, cost-effectively, and reliably; 
     and
       (2) to amend the pro forma Large Generator Interconnection 
     Procedures and, as appropriate, the pro forma Large Generator 
     Interconnection Agreement, promulgated pursuant to section 
     35.28(f) of title 18, Code of Federal Regulations (or 
     successor regulations)--
       (A) to authorize transmission providers to submit proposals 
     to the Commission to adjust the interconnection queue of the 
     transmission provider to prioritize new dispatchable power 
     projects that will improve grid reliability and resource 
     adequacy by assigning those projects higher positions in the 
     interconnection queue; and
       (B) to require transmission providers--
       (i) to provide in any proposal described in subparagraph 
     (A)--

       (I) a demonstration of need for prioritization of the 
     relevant projects; and
       (II) a description of how the prioritization of those 
     projects will improve grid reliability or grid resilience;

       (ii) to provide a process for public comment and 
     stakeholder engagement before a proposal

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     described in subparagraph (A) is submitted to the Commission; 
     and
       (iii) to provide regular reporting to the Commission on the 
     state of grid reliability and grid resilience, including 
     reporting on any actions taken pursuant to this Act.
       (b) Commission Approval.--To ensure timely responses to 
     grid reliability concerns, not later than 60 days after a 
     proposal is submitted pursuant to subsection (a)(2), the 
     Commission shall--
       (1) review the proposal; and
       (2) approve or deny the proposal.
       (c) Deadline for Final Rule.--Not later than 180 days after 
     the date of enactment of this Act, the Commission shall 
     promulgate final regulations to complete the rulemaking 
     initiated under subsection (a).
       (d) Periodic Review.--Not less frequently than once every 5 
     years, the Commission shall review and, if necessary, update 
     the regulations promulgated under this section to ensure that 
     those regulations remain effective and relevant to evolving 
     grid reliability and grid resilience challenges.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The bill, as amended, shall be debatable for 
1 hour equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority 
member of the Committee on Energy and Commerce or their respective 
designees.
  The gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie) and the gentleman from New 
Jersey (Mr. Pallone) each will control 30 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Kentucky.


                             General Leave

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and 
insert extraneous material on H.R. 1047.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Kentucky?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 1047, the GRID Power Act, 
sponsored by my colleague, Representative Troy Balderson of Ohio's 12th 
District.
  This legislation would ensure that grid operators have the tools they 
need to secure the reliability of the electricity grid in the event 
there is a capacity shortfall.
  Across two-thirds of the country, grid operators are charged with 
ensuring that the lights stay on when you flip a switch. Reliability 
isn't a luxury. It is a critical necessity to our way of life and one 
of the reasons our economy is the greatest in the world.
  Unfortunately, decisions made by the last administration favoring 
intermittent, unreliable sources, often at the expense of on-demand, 
dispatchable resources like fossil fuels, have made the grid operators' 
jobs nearly impossible.
  We know that baseload and dispatchable power resources provide the 
essential reliability services necessary to maintain the stability of 
the electric system at an affordable price. This legislation provides a 
pathway for grid operators to bring these resources online quickly if 
there is a demonstrated need.
  Importantly, this bill does not alter the existing interconnection 
process and will work in tandem with reforms made in FERC order number 
2023 to alleviate some of the backlogs we have witnessed over the past 
several years.
  If we fail to build the dispatchable resources needed to power next-
generation industries, we will cede American leadership on the world 
stage to Communist regimes such as China and raise costs on consumers 
along the way.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the legislation as it 
will make our grid more reliable and lower America's electricity bills.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this bill.
  After their big, ugly bill made energy more expensive for American 
families already struggling to make ends meet, Republicans are 
attempting to finish the job by further continuing their nonsensical 
attack on clean energy.
  This bill would aim to make it harder to hook clean power up to the 
electric grid and would remove safeguards intended to ensure that the 
entities in charge of our power grid can't discriminate against clean 
energy.
  While the regulatory processes that power grid operators use to hook 
power plants up to the grid does not make for riveting television time, 
it is still very important, especially at a time when power demand is 
rising and we must get more clean energy onto the electric grid.
  If you listen to Republicans, they will tell you that the main point 
of this bill is to allow grid operators to prioritize resources they 
can get on the grid as quickly as possible, yet they are conveniently 
ignoring the fact that grid operators can already do that.
  This isn't some hypothetical power. Grid operators from the mid-
Atlantic, the Midwest, and the Great Plains have this year all made 
tweaks to the processes they use to hook power plants up to the grid.
  In reality, the point of this bill, in my opinion, is to prioritize 
fossil fuel plants by allowing them to jump to the front of the line 
ahead of wind, solar, and battery storage.
  This is really preposterous when you consider that 94 percent of 
proposed power generation waiting to be interconnected is zero-carbon 
clean energy.
  Republicans want grid operators to be able to discriminate against 
renewable power, continuing Trump's war against clean, cheap energy, 
and Republicans are trying to kill off the only realistic source of 
electricity growth and of our Nation. That is clean energy. There is 
nothing here more complicated than that. That is what they are trying 
to do, kill clean energy.
  It is a real shame because we do need to find ways to add more energy 
to the grid. Prices have skyrocketed in my home State of New Jersey, 
largely because of decisions that the PJM, our grid operator, made 5 to 
10 years ago that created a clogged queue for power plants waiting to 
hook up to the grid.
  It has been a disaster.
  While recent rules from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission have 
helped, we have to do more. Instead of focusing on picking winners and 
losers in the interconnection queue, we should focus instead on 
speeding up the processing of the entire queue so power plants can get 
online as quickly as possible because we need more power from all 
sources.
  We should focus on making it easier to build the necessary grid 
infrastructure upgrades so power can get online. We should do it all in 
a way that is fair to American families paying the bills.
  This bill does none of that. It simply gives a fast pass to Big Oil 
and Gas, and I urge my colleagues to oppose the bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the 
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Balderson), my good friend and sponsor of this 
legislation, who is a leader on the Energy and Commerce Committee.
  Mr. BALDERSON. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of my bill, the GRID Power Act.
  This legislation is critical to ensure our Nation has the 
dispatchable baseload power needed to meet historic demand growth and 
guarantee that the lights turn on when our constituents flip the 
switch.
  PJM, the largest grid operator in the Nation and sole grid operator 
for my home State of Ohio, has announced that they expect to lose about 
40 gigawatts of generation by 2030. That is 21 percent of PJM's total 
capacity, and new power generation is not coming online quickly enough 
to offset the risk posed by retiring resources.

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  Between 2022 and 2023 alone, PJM saw over 11,000 megawatts of 
generation deactivated while only adding 4,000 megawatts of new 
generation to the grid. It doesn't take an expert to see that retiring 
power plants outpacing new generation is a problem.
  This is especially concerning for my district and central Ohio, which 
has become a national hub for data center construction. These new 
facilities are at the heart of powering the AI revolution, but we must 
now figure out how we can power them while ensuring our constituents 
have access to reliable and affordable energy.
  We saw how close we were to power scarcity in Ohio over the summer, 
as utilities warned Ohio residents to reduce energy power during peak 
demand to help prevent rolling power outages. Ohio families should not 
have to face a power emergency for running their air conditioning.
  We have the natural resources needed. We have the ability to build 
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power generation. This is clearly a public policy failure, and we can 
fix it by addressing the broken interconnection process.
  Interconnection queues are lists maintained by transmission system 
operators--such as independent system operators, regional transmission 
organizations, or transmission providers--that track pending requests 
for new generation facilities to connect to the grid.
  Right now, our Nation's interconnection queues are buckling under 
their own weight. The growing backlog of projects is adding years to an 
already slow process and prevents shovel-ready projects from being 
built and connected.
  According to the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, almost 2,600 
gigawatts of generation projects are sitting in interconnection queues 
across the country. That is more than double the amount of the existing 
generation currently on the grid. The median wait time for projects has 
now stretched to 5 years.
  With demand growth accelerating and retirements mounting in Ohio and 
across the country, we cannot afford to wait 5 years or more, and we 
certainly cannot afford to keep delaying critical projects.
  The GRID Power Act addresses this by requiring FERC to develop rules 
that allow grid operators to fast-track critical generation needed to 
ensure reliability and meet demand, bypassing the years-long wait in 
the interconnection queue.
  The bill also promotes transparency by requiring that grid operators 
provide opportunities for public comment and stakeholder engagement 
before submitting proposals to FERC. Operators must also provide 
regular reports to FERC on the state of grid reliability and actions 
taken under this bill.
  Finally, FERC must review and, if necessary, update its regulations 
to ensure they remain effective in addressing evolving challenges to 
grid reliability and resiliency.
  Let me be clear: This bill is fuel-neutral. Nowhere in the text does 
it single out fossil fuels or renewables. Instead, it establishes a 
process to fast-track projects based on their ability to enhance the 
reliability and resiliency of the electric grid.
  As we face a looming electricity shortfall, we must recognize that 
weather-dependent, intermittent resources alone cannot meet the 
challenge. Grid operators across the Nation have been clear over the 
last several years that we need more dispatchable power to come online 
to protect us from rolling blackouts.
  If we want to keep American businesses running and ensure 
uninterrupted power for our constituents, we must fix the broken 
interconnection queue.
  I urge all of my colleagues to support this commonsense bill that 
equips our grid operators with the tools they need to do their job. I 
would like to end by thanking Chairman Guthrie, Subcommittee Chairman 
Latta, and the Energy and Commerce Committee staff for all their hard 
work in getting this bill to the floor.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the 
gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Castor), the ranking member of our Energy 
Subcommittee.
  Ms. CASTOR of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member for 
yielding the time.
  I rise in opposition to H.R. 1047. It is a bill that will give 
polluting gas plants an unfair and costly shortcut to the electric grid 
while doing nothing to protect working families from rising energy 
costs.
  This is an unfortunate theme this Congress. Despite the promises of 
the President and my Republican colleagues in Congress, they haven't 
brought any bill that will help address the affordability squeeze. 
Right now, as we debate this package of energy bills, there is a big 
discussion going on about the Republican budget that is coming to the 
floor likely tomorrow, and Democrats are here to say we are going to 
fight to protect Americans' pocketbooks. We want lower costs.
  We know the impact of the big, ugly bill was to raise healthcare 
costs and to raise energy bills. It is really time that the average 
working American get a break for a change. We want to cancel the cuts 
of the ACA. The Affordable Care Act tax credits are a pathway to 
affordability and lifesaving care, and it appears that the Republicans 
are going to refuse to reinstate those tax credits. We want to fight to 
lower costs, to protect Medicaid, to save healthcare. This is the 
larger context of this debate on energy bills, as well.
  This bill is a good example. You can peer into Congress and say, 
okay, who is fighting for me. This GRID Power Act is unnecessary. What 
has been happening is that cleaner, cheaper sources of energy are 
waiting to come onto the grid, and the Trump administration and 
Republicans in Congress now are throwing up as many barriers as 
possible because they are on the side of the polluters.
  You can see, we had a coal bill. This is a gas bill. What about the 
cleaner, cheaper energy that is waiting right now to come onto the 
queue? They are throwing barriers up to getting those cost savings to 
hardworking families. This does nothing to ensure a reliable grid, 
which is so vitally important at a time of more extreme events.

  The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has the power already to 
approve changes to the interconnection queue process. That is a funny 
term for how we bring sources of energy onto the grid, this disjointed 
grid across the country. FERC can prioritize what power sources come 
onto the grid when it deems necessary. You don't need to give an unfair 
costly shortcut to gas plants.
  These kind of decisions on how we are going to power our lives and 
connect resources to the grid, these are very complex decisions, and 
you want robust analysis. You want an independent FERC fully staffed 
with experts to make these decisions in partnership with local grid 
operators, clearly, because FERC already has the authority to do a lot 
of this as long as it is supported by evidence.
  This Republican bill says: Forget the evidence. We are just going to 
give this fast-pass to gas companies. It allows them to cut in line, 
and that is unfair. What they should be doing is speeding the cleaner, 
cheaper resources to the grid, giving them a fair shot to do it.
  We had a committee meeting in the Energy Subcommittee this week, and 
we had the acting general counsel from the Department of Energy appear 
before us. Just to show you the fast-pass that polluters and gas 
companies are getting, we asked him about the Energy Secretary's trip 
overseas to try to sell more natural gas from Americans. I asked him: 
Well, have you done any analysis on this to show that that is not going 
to raise costs on American ratepayers and consumers?
  He said: No, not that I know of.
  If you keep pushing exports of our energy resources, what happens to 
the costs for hardworking families here, and what happens to domestic 
businesses as those resources go elsewhere, as well?
  One of FERC's responsibilities is to keep prices affordable. That is 
made possible by competition. You want this resource to be as resource 
neutral as much as possible. If you don't believe in neutrality, what 
you are going to do? You are going to stifle American innovation and 
entrepreneurship.

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  When you talk about reliability, it isn't a description of an 
individual generator, but rather it is an attribute that applies to the 
entire grid across the country. It is not a given that additional 
dispatchable resources aid reliability themselves. You have to rely on 
a mix of generation, different fuels, and wires to make sure everyone 
can get the power they need all the time.
  When you put your finger on the scale of a certain power source and 
then put barriers to others, especially cleaner, cheaper sources, that 
is just a recipe for higher costs for businesses and consumers alike.
  When this bill came before our committee, I had an answer to a lot of 
this dysfunction about how we expedite resources to the grid. My 
amendment said that for any projects that are prioritized in the 
interconnection queue by this bill, if you are going to expedite them, 
then we want to see proof that they are coming online within 4 years.
  My Republican colleagues didn't want to shine the light on the gas 
plants that can't come online in 4 years, and they all voted down my 
amendment.
  If they are genuinely concerned about meeting demand growth in the

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next 4 years and genuinely believe that gas is going to do that, they 
could have agreed to this amendment, but everyone voted it down.
  Here is the dirty little secret that everyone in the energy industry 
knows right now, but Republicans are glossing over: There is a critical 
shortage of gas turbines. That means the cost of gas plants is already 
facing inflationary pressures. Those inflationary pressures, who are 
they passed on to? They are passed on to consumers back home, to 
hardworking American families. If you haven't ordered your gas turbine 
now, you are not getting it this decade.
  The only way we are going to meet growing electricity demand in the 
next few years is through cleaner, cheaper power that is waiting to 
come onto the grid--wind, batteries, distributed energy sources, demand 
response, grid-enhancing technologies, and other solutions.
  This is an incoherent energy policy from the Trump administration. 
You say you want more power. We need more power. We have AI data 
centers, but let's kill the offshore wind projects. Let's create 
barriers to getting sources of energy onto the grid that are ready to 
come onto the grid, and let's make life more expensive for hardworking 
people because we are going to say, no, only gas plants get that fast 
pass, but we don't have the turbines and the infrastructure to get them 
on the grid.
  That is incoherent. That means that it is going to be costly, and 
that is the last thing that our neighbors need back home. They want 
people working together on solutions.
  Ripping healthcare away, making healthcare coverage more expensive, 
and making electric bills more expensive, all of these policies are 
unpopular. I wish we could get back to working together on real 
solutions for the American people. I believe they need relief from the 
cost of living, and we should be working together to get there.
  Mr. Speaker, let's reject this bill and get back to working on those 
solutions together.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the 
gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Wittman), who is a good friend of mine and 
a leader in Congress in energy policies and national security policies 
and a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
  Mr. WITTMAN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 
1047, the GRID Power Act.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank Representative Balderson for leading on this 
bill and Energy and Commerce Chair Brett Guthrie and his staff for 
their incredible work on this. I thank the chairman for all of his 
efforts to make sure that we have the energy grid that we need for the 
future.
  Mr. Speaker, we know where the demands are coming from. We know that 
we have to have the additional high-performance data capability if we 
are going to lead in artificial intelligence. We know we are in a race 
with China. We know that, for the future of this Nation, for the future 
of our children, we want to make sure that we are on the right path. We 
know that we will use AI for the right purposes. I don't think anybody 
believes that China is going to use AI for the right purposes.
  Across the First Congressional District in the Commonwealth of 
Virginia, I hear from my constituents about the rising costs of energy, 
whether it is at the gas pump or their power bills.
  I am proud to cosponsor this bill, H.R. 1047, because policies like 
this ensure a supply of reliable, affordable electricity generation. In 
turn, we want to do everything we can to lower costs for American 
households while providing necessary energy.
  We have challenges now. The demand is going to increase precipitously 
in the years to come. How do we make sure we meet that demand? How do 
we make sure we have not just the generation sources in place but also 
the transmission systems that work together to make sure that we are 
working against any sort of large-scale failure scenarios that make a 
problem for us in the long term? We have to address those problems now.
  To achieve this, we have to give our regional transmission 
organizations and our independent systems operators the necessary 
authority to prioritize projects that increase interconnectivity, to 
make sure these systems interconnect so that if there is a problem 
somewhere, we can bring power back in.
  That is what makes our grid today so incredibly important. If there 
is a breakdown in transmission somewhere, we can find other ways to 
bring power to people's homes. If there is a breakdown there with 
generation, we can find other ways to bring power to people's homes, 
bring power to people's businesses. That is why maintaining and 
increasing that reliability in the future is key.
  Resiliency in that grid is key, too. How do we do that? We make sure 
that we do even more to empower the decisionmakers to have maximum 
flexibility to make sure that they can put new improvements to our grid 
in place to make sure that every bit of power generation capacity and 
every bit of transmission capacity is ensured so that it gets power to 
the consumer, to our families, and to our businesses. They rely on 
that.

  We know the interruption that it has. If you have power that goes out 
at your home or power that goes out at your business, that is a major 
inconvenience and, in some instances, a major interruption in your 
business. It can be a major safety factor, too, for families that rely 
on that power for things that are critical to people's well-being at 
their homes.
  We have to make sure that we are doing everything we can to make this 
happen. By expediting the resources necessary to advance this 
reliability, increase the reliability, and increase the resiliency in 
the grid, we know that this legislation will help achieve that.
  We know that this will help us unleash American energy production in 
vast, new, improved ways. Again, modernize the grid and increase 
reliability. Those things are key.
  We want to make sure that we are doing that because that brings down 
the cost of living and brings down the cost of power. When things are 
more reliable, we have more opportunities to provide power in many 
different ways. That brings down costs. This bill will allow us to do 
that.
  It also helps us restore American energy dominance, where we are 
using all of the above. We want to use every asset at our avail, both 
our energy itself, with what we produce there on the grid, and the 
transmission within the grid.
  We know that this is key for our working families and our small 
businesses. That is the foundation of strong communities, and it starts 
with making sure that we have a grid that has maximum reliability and 
maximum resilience. This bill achieves that.
  In closing, I urge all of my colleagues to support this bill.
  Mr. Speaker, again, I thank Chairman Guthrie for his leadership and 
Representative Balderson for introducing this bill.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, the Energy and Commerce Committee has jurisdiction over 
a number of issues, including energy, but we also have jurisdiction 
over the FCC. Beyond that, this House, in my opinion, and the Members 
of this House have an obligation to guarantee free speech in our 
democracy at all times.
  Yesterday, FCC Chairman Carr used his position to launch a swift and 
decisive campaign to remove Jimmy Kimmel from the Nation's airwaves.
  Let's not kid ourselves about what happened. President Trump has been 
openly trying to get Jimmy Kimmel fired since his first term. Press 
reports detail White House staff calls to Disney as far back as 2018 to 
complain about Kimmel's jokes, but now, President Trump has a willing 
partner at the FCC with Chairman Carr.
  An agency that once prized its independence is now overtly being used 
as the personal speech police of the President of the United States, a 
cudgel against dissent.

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  Mr. Speaker, Chairman Carr issued a public threat to Disney, ABC. He 
said: ``We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies 
can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or 
there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.''
  Given that the FCC licenses all ABC stations, both stations owned and 
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ABC affiliates, this threat carried real weight. Licenses can be 
revoked by the agency, wrecking a company.
  The threat sparked Nexstar and Sinclair, two affiliate owners, to 
preempt Kimmel's show from the ABC programming stream and leaving 
Disney with no other choice but to suspend Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely. 
It is no surprise that these affiliate companies also seek regulatory 
favor from the FCC.
  Mr. Speaker, there was a time when my colleagues on the other side of 
the aisle would be outraged by this government overreach. They would 
not condone this assault on free speech. There was a time when 
companies, particularly American broadcasters, would hold the line and 
assert their constitutional rights for all of us.
  Apparently, that time is over. It is a dark day indeed. We need to be 
clear about two things: One, all Jimmy Kimmel did was speak. Two, it is 
not freedom when a private company decides to shut down speech to avoid 
punishment from the government.
  That needs to end now, and that means that Chairman Carr should 
resign. I urge my colleagues to keep in mind that the First Amendment 
is the most important amendment and probably the most important part of 
our Constitution to guarantee free speech.
  Not only does this need to end now, but we have to continue to speak 
out when we see violations of free speech, both by the President, by 
the FCC, or by anyone else, frankly, who we have jurisdiction over. I 
feel very strongly about this, but I do want to go back to the energy 
issue in the bill that is before us today.
  Mr. Speaker, my friends on the other side of the aisle claim they are 
for all of the above. I have heard that over and over again from the 
Republicans. They are for all of the above with regard to energy 
consumption.
  The bills today show that is simply not true. It is not accurate when 
they say that. I have to thank Secretary of Energy Chris Wright for 
being honest about this. At a Committee on Energy and Commerce hearing 
in June, he was very blunt. He said: ``These companies can find ways to 
change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there is going 
to be additional work for the FCC ahead.''
  Mr. Speaker, there we have it. The Trump administration is staunchly 
against all of the above. That makes sense because their actions at 
least match their rhetoric. They are doing everything they can to put 
their thumb on the scale for dirty energy and cancel every clean energy 
project they possibly can, no matter how helpful it might be to keep 
electricity bills down or keep the lights on.
  We have a duty to ensure that our power grid can keep the lights on. 
Even if Republicans don't like to admit it, that means adding clean 
energy to the grid. It is the quickest source of energy to add to the 
grid, given the current multiyear gas turbine shortage.
  Grid reliability regulators have been clear that renewable energy and 
batteries were critical in allowing the grid to endure multiple heat 
waves this summer. That is why Texas added more solar and wind energy 
to their power grid than any other State in the country in the wake of 
the blackouts during Winter Storm Uri 4 years ago. Solar and wind helps 
keep the lights on.
  Unfortunately, Republicans seem uninterested in acknowledging the 
basic reality that solar and wind, partnered with batteries, can be an 
essential part of a reliable power grid. Instead, they have done 
everything they can to increase the costs for these technologies and 
make it harder to add clean energy to the grid.
  Mr. Speaker, between this bill and the big, ugly bill, every time 
Americans open their power bill or see their lights flicker, 
Republicans are responsible. I think the American people will hold them 
accountable.
  For all these reasons, I oppose this bill, as I oppose the other two 
energy bills today. I urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I thank Congressman Balderson for 
sponsoring the GRID Power Act.
  Mr. Speaker, this is part of the strategy we all have to do to 
produce more power so we can have cheaper power. Demand is rising. We 
need supply to rise. We need supply of dispatchable power to rise.
  I do believe in the all of the above. I also believe it is also the 
best of the above. Dispatchable power is important, and I encourage a 
``yes'' vote.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 707, the 
previous question is ordered on the bill, as amended.
  The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on passage of the bill.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further 
proceedings on this question will be postponed.

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