[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 153 (Thursday, September 18, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H4423-H4428]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




            PROMOTING CROSS-BORDER ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE ACT

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 707, I call up

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the bill (H.R. 3062) to establish a more uniform, transparent, and 
modern process to authorize the construction, connection, operation, 
and maintenance of international border-crossing facilities for the 
import and export of oil and natural gas and the transmission of 
electricity, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 707, the 
amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the Committee on 
Energy and Commerce, printed in the bill, is adopted and the bill, as 
amended, is considered read.
  The text of the bill, as amended, is as follows:

                               H.R. 3062

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Promoting Cross-border 
     Energy Infrastructure Act''.

     SEC. 2. STRENGTHENING NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY SECURITY.

       (a) Authorization of Certain Energy Infrastructure Projects 
     at an International Boundary of the United States.--
       (1) Authorization.--Except as provided in paragraph (3) and 
     subsection (e), no person may construct, connect, operate, or 
     maintain a border-crossing facility for the import or export 
     of oil or natural gas, or the transmission of electricity, 
     across an international border of the United States without 
     obtaining a certificate of crossing for the border-crossing 
     facility under this subsection.
       (2) Certificate of crossing.--
       (A) Requirement.--Not later than 120 days after final 
     action is taken, by the relevant official or agency 
     identified under subparagraph (B), under the National 
     Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (42 U.S.C. 4321 et seq.) 
     with respect to a border-crossing facility for which a person 
     requests a certificate of crossing under this subsection, the 
     relevant official or agency, in consultation with appropriate 
     Federal agencies, shall issue a certificate of crossing for 
     the border-crossing facility unless the relevant official or 
     agency finds that the construction, connection, operation, or 
     maintenance of the border-crossing facility is not in the 
     public interest of the United States.
       (B) Relevant official or agency.--The relevant official or 
     agency referred to in subparagraph (A) is--
       (i) the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission with respect 
     to border-crossing facilities consisting of oil or natural 
     gas pipelines; and
       (ii) the Secretary of Energy with respect to border-
     crossing facilities consisting of electric transmission 
     facilities.
       (C) Additional requirement for electric transmission 
     facilities.--In the case of a request for a certificate of 
     crossing for a border-crossing facility consisting of an 
     electric transmission facility, the Secretary of Energy shall 
     require, as a condition of issuing the certificate of 
     crossing under subparagraph (A), that the border-crossing 
     facility be constructed, connected, operated, or maintained 
     consistent with all applicable policies and standards of--
       (i) the Electric Reliability Organization and the 
     applicable regional entity; and
       (ii) any Regional Transmission Organization or Independent 
     System Operator with operational or functional control over 
     the border-crossing facility.
       (3) Exclusions.--This subsection shall not apply to any 
     construction, connection, operation, or maintenance of a 
     border-crossing facility for the import or export of oil or 
     natural gas, or the transmission of electricity--
       (A) if the border-crossing facility is operating for such 
     import, export, or transmission as of the date of enactment 
     of this Act;
       (B) if a Presidential permit (or similar permit) for the 
     construction, connection, operation, or maintenance has been 
     issued pursuant to any provision of law or Executive order; 
     or
       (C) if an application for a Presidential permit (or similar 
     permit) for the construction, connection, operation, or 
     maintenance is pending on the date of enactment of this Act, 
     until the earlier of--
       (i) the date on which such application is denied; or
       (ii) two years after the date of enactment of this Act, if 
     such a permit has not been issued by such date of enactment.
       (4) Effect of other laws.--
       (A) Application to projects.--Nothing in this subsection or 
     subsection (e) shall affect the application of any other 
     Federal statute to a project for which a certificate of 
     crossing for a border-crossing facility is requested under 
     this subsection.
       (B) Natural gas act.--Nothing in this subsection or 
     subsection (e) shall affect the requirement to obtain 
     approval or authorization under sections 3 and 7 of the 
     Natural Gas Act for the siting, construction, or operation of 
     any facility to import or export natural gas.
       (C) Oil pipelines.--Nothing in this subsection or 
     subsection (e) shall affect the authority of the Federal 
     Energy Regulatory Commission with respect to oil pipelines 
     under section 60502 of title 49, United States Code.
       (b) Importation or Exportation of Natural Gas to Canada and 
     Mexico.--Section 3(c) of the Natural Gas Act (15 U.S.C. 
     717b(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following: ``In 
     the case of an application for the importation of natural gas 
     from, or the exportation of natural gas to, Canada or Mexico, 
     the Commission shall grant the application not later than 30 
     days after the date on which the Commission receives the 
     complete application.''.
       (c) Transmission of Electric Energy to Canada and Mexico.--
       (1) Repeal of requirement to secure order.--Section 202(e) 
     of the Federal Power Act (16 U.S.C. 824a(e)) is repealed.
       (2) Conforming amendments.--
       (A) State regulations.--Section 202(f) of the Federal Power 
     Act (16 U.S.C. 824a(f)) is amended by striking ``insofar as 
     such State regulation does not conflict with the exercise of 
     the Commission's powers under or relating to subsection 
     202(e)''.
       (B) Seasonal diversity electricity exchange.--Section 
     602(b) of the Public Utility Regulatory Policies Act of 1978 
     (16 U.S.C. 824a-4(b)) is amended by striking ``the Commission 
     has conducted hearings and made the findings required under 
     section 202(e) of the Federal Power Act'' and all that 
     follows through the period at the end and inserting ``the 
     Secretary has conducted hearings and finds that the proposed 
     transmission facilities would not impair the sufficiency of 
     electric supply within the United States or would not impede 
     or tend to impede the coordination in the public interest of 
     facilities subject to the jurisdiction of the Secretary.''.
       (d) No Presidential Permit Required.--No Presidential 
     permit (or similar permit) shall be required pursuant to any 
     provision of law or Executive order for the construction, 
     connection, operation, or maintenance of an oil or natural 
     gas pipeline or electric transmission facility, or any 
     border-crossing facility thereof.
       (e) Modifications to Existing Projects.--No certificate of 
     crossing under subsection (a), or Presidential permit (or 
     similar permit), shall be required for a modification to--
       (1) an oil or natural gas pipeline or electric transmission 
     facility that is operating for the import or export of oil or 
     natural gas or the transmission of electricity as of the date 
     of enactment of this Act;
       (2) an oil or natural gas pipeline or electric transmission 
     facility for which a Presidential permit (or similar permit) 
     has been issued pursuant to any provision of law or Executive 
     order; or
       (3) a border-crossing facility for which a certificate of 
     crossing has previously been issued under subsection (a).
       (f) Prohibition on Revocation of Presidential Permits.--
     Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the President may 
     not revoke a Presidential permit (or similar permit) issued 
     pursuant to Executive Order No. 13337 (3 U.S.C. 301 note), 
     Executive Order No. 11423 (3 U.S.C. 301 note), Executive 
     Order No. 12038 (42 U.S.C. 7151 note), Executive Order No. 
     10485 (15 U.S.C. 717b note), or any other Executive order for 
     the construction, connection, operation, or maintenance of an 
     oil or natural gas pipeline or electric transmission 
     facility, or any border-crossing facility thereof, unless 
     such revocation is authorized by an Act of Congress.
       (g) Effective Date; Rulemaking Deadlines.--
       (1) Effective date.--Subsections (a) through (e), and the 
     amendments made by such subsections, shall take effect on the 
     date that is 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act.
       (2) Rulemaking deadlines.--Each relevant official or agency 
     described in subsection (a)(2)(B) shall--
       (A) not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of 
     this Act, publish in the Federal Register notice of a 
     proposed rulemaking to carry out the applicable requirements 
     of subsection (a); and
       (B) not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of 
     this Act, publish in the Federal Register a final rule to 
     carry out the applicable requirements of subsection (a).
       (h) Definitions.--In this section:
       (1) Border-crossing facility.--The term ``border-crossing 
     facility'' means the portion of an oil or natural gas 
     pipeline or electric transmission facility that is located 
     within 1,000 feet of the international boundary of the United 
     States, measured from the point at which the facility crosses 
     such boundary into the United States.
       (2) Modification.--The term ``modification'' includes a 
     reversal of flow direction, change in ownership, change in 
     flow volume, addition or removal of an interconnection, or an 
     adjustment to maintain flow (such as a reduction or increase 
     in the number of pump or compressor stations).
       (3) Natural gas.--The term ``natural gas'' has the meaning 
     given that term in section 2 of the Natural Gas Act (15 
     U.S.C. 717a).
       (4) Oil.--The term ``oil'' means petroleum or a petroleum 
     product.
       (5) Electric reliability organization; regional entity.--
     The terms ``Electric Reliability Organization'' and 
     ``regional entity'' have the meanings given those terms in 
     section 215 of the Federal Power Act (16 U.S.C. 824o).
       (6) Independent system operator; regional transmission 
     organization.--The terms ``Independent System Operator'' and 
     ``Regional Transmission Organization'' have the meanings 
     given those terms in section 3 of the Federal Power Act (16 
     U.S.C. 796).

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The bill, as amended, shall be debatable for 
1 hour, equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking 
minority member of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, or their 
respective designees.
  The gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie) and the gentleman from New 
Jersey (Mr. Pallone) each will control 30 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Guthrie).

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                             General Leave

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and 
include extraneous material on H.R. 3062.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Kentucky?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, North America has grown to be an energy superpower due 
to the robust trade of oil, gas, and electricity. As energy demand is 
projected to increase in staggering numbers over the coming years, the 
expansion of cross-border energy infrastructure throughout this 
integrated market will be important.
  One challenge confronting the expansion of energy trade with Mexico 
and Canada is that Congress has not asserted authority to establish 
procedures for permitting cross-border infrastructure.
  Cross-border infrastructure, especially oil and natural gas pipelines 
and electrical transmission lines, is essential to American communities 
across the Nation.
  Instead of a clear statutory process, a myriad of executive orders 
over decades have provided the legal context for permitting procedures 
of cross-border energy infrastructure.
  Under this permitting regime that has been cobbled together, the 
Secretary of State has the authority to issue Presidential permits for 
cross-border liquid pipelines; the Federal Energy Regulatory 
Commission, or FERC, for cross-border natural gas pipelines; and the 
Department of Energy for cross-border electric transmission facilities.
  Unfortunately, this regime has subjected infrastructure permitting 
processes to the political whims of an administration, as we saw for 12 
of the last 16 years under Presidents Obama and Biden. This can 
severely curtail America's energy.
  H.R. 3062, introduced by the gentlewoman from North Dakota (Mrs. 
Fedorchak), would remedy these permitting inconsistencies by 
establishing a uniform process for authorizing energy infrastructure 
construction that crosses U.S. boundaries. Instead of the complex 
existing process, projects would simply be required to receive a 
certificate of crossing from the relevant agency for the border-
crossing segment.
  Nothing in this legislation alters additional permitting requirements 
of other statutes, like the National Environmental Policy Act or Clean 
Water Act.
  It is past time for Congress to assert its authority and establish a 
modern and transparent process for cross-border energy infrastructure.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank Representative Fedorchak for her leadership. I 
urge my colleagues to support this legislation, and I reserve the 
balance of my time.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this trio of pro-polluter 
bills that we are debating today. These bills just double down on the 
Trump administration's commitment to raising American electricity 
prices by discriminating against clean, cheap energy. They prove that 
Republicans have never been for an all-of-the-above energy strategy and 
that they don't care about fixing the insanely high cost of living that 
is crushing families across this country right now.

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  The only thing Republicans care about is making their fossil fuel 
friends even richer.
  All of this comes a few months after Republicans passed their big, 
ugly bill. That law will cause Americans' utility bills to go up by 
about nearly $300 per year. That is on top of the nearly $29 billion in 
electricity bill rate hikes that utilities have requested just since 
the start of President Trump's term. All this from a President who 
promised to cut Americans' electricity bills in half. That is just one 
of President Trump's broken promises.
  President Trump and House Republicans also claim to care about China, 
particularly about beating China in the artificial intelligence race. 
That requires getting as much power on to the grid as quickly as 
possible, but the big, ugly bill will do the opposite. It will instead 
cause electricity capacity to decrease by more than 2\1/2\ times the 
size of the entire Midwestern electric grid, and Trump's law will 
render the United States unable to meet growing power demand or to 
compete with China.
  All this doesn't factor in the enormous toll that Trump's tariffs 
will take on America's energy bills. A recent analysis found that 
Trump's tariffs will cost your average American family $2,300 each 
year. That is $2,300 that families need to pay rent, to buy groceries, 
and to afford clothes and school supplies for their kids. Trump decided 
to make everything more expensive, even the energy we buy.
  The inconvenient truth that Republicans don't want to acknowledge is 
that clean energy can compete with fossil fuels. They don't like that. 
They are trying to put their thumb on the scale, and that is where this 
week's bills come into play.
  The first bill we are discussing right now, H.R. 3062, the cross-
border energy bill, was first proposed way back in 2013 to respond to 
the energy politics of the 2010s. It is simply irrelevant in this day 
and age. The Keystone Pipeline has been dead for 4 years. The Canadians 
are not interested in building energy infrastructure connecting our two 
nations thanks to Trump's tariffs, yet this bill would gut the Federal 
Government's ability to review the environmental impact of oil and gas 
pipelines that cross into Canada and Mexico.
  Currently, the Federal Government reviews the entirety of a cross-
border oil pipeline, but under this bill, the review would be limited 
to only 1,000 feet crossing the border. There would be virtually no 
Federal review for natural gas pipelines running from Texas to Mexico. 
This will make it easier to export American natural gas to liquid 
natural gas facilities in Mexico, which, again, will drive up utility 
prices here at home in the United States.
  Finally, the bill creates a massive loophole allowing any existing 
cross-border facility to expand without any review whatsoever. A 
pipeline could be expanded by 10 times, dramatically increasing its 
environmental impact, and there would still be no review.
  If Republicans want to get serious about permitting reform, they need 
to work with Democrats to advance policies that will fix the way we 
permit and plan our Nation's grid.
  Later today, we are going to consider another bill, H.R. 3015, that 
would reestablish the National Coal Council, something that Energy 
Secretary Wright has already done. Instead of using floor time on 
anything important, like maybe trying to fix the affordability crisis 
that is strangling middle-class America, Republicans are wasting time 
passing a bill to do something that has already happened.
  Then after that, the third bill, H.R. 1047, the GRID Power Act, would 
require the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to allow electric grid 
operators to prioritize connecting fossil fuel plants to the grid over 
connecting clean energy power plants to the grid.
  Now, this is just another way Republicans are tipping the scales 
toward fossil fuels over wind and solar energy.
  Taken together, Mr. Speaker, these three bills will only continue to 
raise America's energy bills and, in some cases, do so while also 
removing the guardrails that keep our communities safe and healthy.
  Mr. Speaker, I strongly urge opposition to all three bills, including 
the one we are debating right now, and I reserve the balance of my 
time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, before I introduce my next speaker, I will make clear 
that tariffs don't affect these products. USMCA-qualifying products, 
which is crude oil, natural gas, refined petroleum products, and 
biofuels, are tariff-free. Additionally, this legislation does not 
remove permitting requirements. All environmental and regulatory 
reviews of this infrastructure would continue. It is not accurate to 
say that we would go around any of the qualifying. The other side talks 
about us tipping the scales toward fossil fuel energy and dispatchable 
power, but theirs tips the scale toward wind and solar. I think we need 
all of the above, but when you say we are going to subsidize a more 
expensive power, that doesn't make power cheaper. Maybe in the short-
term, but certainly not in the long run, and that is where we need to 
focus.

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  We do need to work together, as he said, to make sure we can do 
permit reform and produce the energy this country needs for AI and 
other things.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentlewoman from North Dakota 
(Mrs. Fedorchak), my good friend and the sponsor of this bill and a 
viable member of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
  Mrs. FEDORCHAK. Mr. Speaker, I thank Chairman Guthrie for his 
leadership on this issue, on all energy issues, and for the entire 
Energy and Commerce Committee. He provides the exact type of leadership 
we need at this time in our country.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of my bill, the Promoting 
Cross-Border Energy Infrastructure Act and in strong opposition to what 
my colleague from New Jersey just said about this bill, much of which 
is just simply not true.

  Energy is the foundation of everything we do. It powers our homes, 
fuels our farms, and drives our economy. If we want to stay a global 
leader, we must build the pipelines and power lines that move energy 
from where it is produced to where it is needed. That is much more 
challenging than it needs to be under current law in our country. I 
know many of my colleagues across the aisle want to change that through 
permitting reform. My legislation begins to address that and is a step 
in the right direction.
  This bill is about strengthening American energy security, protecting 
good-paying jobs, and restoring common sense to a process bogged down 
by bureaucratic delays and partisan politics.
  For far too long, energy developers have faced an outdated and 
unpredictable permitting process that has delayed and even canceled 
critical infrastructure projects, costing taxpayers millions of 
dollars, and weakening American energy security.
  Right now, if you want to build a pipeline or a power transmission 
line between the U.S. and Canada or the U.S. and Mexico, you are stuck 
navigating a patchwork of executive orders, undefined agency processes, 
and shifting political winds. That is no way to build long-term 
infrastructure in our country.
  We need a cross-border permitting process that is transparent, 
predictable, and durable, a process that can't be undone with the 
stroke of a pen. The Keystone XL Pipeline should have been a wake-up 
call. It would have carried 800,000 barrels of oil each day from Canada 
to refineries in the Midwest and Texas. It would have meant real 
opportunity for North Dakota communities: more jobs, more tax revenue, 
and more energy produced for the entire Nation.
  After a decade of delays, protests, and litigation, Keystone XL was 
finally approved in 2017 by President Trump, but on day one of the 
Biden administration, that permit was canceled. It wasn't canceled 
because the project wasn't needed or because it wasn't safe, but to 
appease radical activists.
  With that single decision, the Biden administration cost the U.S. 
more than $3 billion in GDP and thousands of jobs, including many in my 
State of North Dakota.
  This uncertainty has created a chilling effect on investment in the 
infrastructure we desperately need for American energy dominance.
  That is why I introduced the Promoting Cross-Border Energy 
Infrastructure Act. This legislation will help fix this problem. This 
bill requires Congress to approve the reversal of a cross-border 
project, no more unilateral decisions based on politics.
  This bill would also replace the outdated Presidential permitting 
process with a clear statutory framework: the certificate of crossing.
  This process will be overseen by FERC for oil and gas projects and by 
the Department of Energy for electricity. It establishes firm timelines 
for reviewing applications and puts subject matter experts, not 
politicians, in charge of decisions.
  By creating a consistent statutory framework that protects all 
existing requirements and environmental reviews, we can provide the 
regulatory certainty energy developers need to invest, hire, and build. 
Most importantly, this strengthens America's role as a global energy 
leader.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this bill and stand with 
American energy dominance.

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  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the 
gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Castor), the ranking member of our Energy 
Subcommittee.
  Ms. CASTOR of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New 
Jersey for yielding the time.
  Mr. Speaker, here we are 9 months into the Trump administration and 
Republicans in Congress, despite their promises, have done nothing to 
lower energy costs. In fact, costs keep going up, up, and up, and the 
GOP policies are making it worse. I have to say that Americans deserve 
a whole lot better.
  We understand that the impact of the big, ugly bill passed a couple 
months ago is going to raise the cost of living on hardworking families 
across the country. There has been a lot of attention on healthcare 
costs in the State of Florida because the Republicans would not 
reinstate the cost-saving and lifesaving tax credits. Millions of 
Floridians, like many more across America, are facing higher healthcare 
costs.
  What wasn't covered as much in the big, ugly bill and its impact is 
what it is going to do to drive up people's electric bill. Already, 
this year, household electricity prices are up 10 percent. One in three 
households is cutting back on necessities, like groceries, to afford 
their energy bills.
  Three in four Americans are concerned with their utility bills 
increasing, and they should be because at least 102 gas and electric 
utilities have either raised or proposed higher rates that will go into 
effect next year.
  Here is the proof. Here is a report from September of this year: 
``Residents in at Least 41 States and Washington, D.C., Are Facing 
Increased Electric and Natural Gas Bills.''
  ``Utilities are increasing prices for customers across the country.'' 
Including all the way through to 2028, monthly residential bill impacts 
are going to be rough.
  Here is another from PowerLines from July 2025: `` `Utility bills are 
rising.' Q2 2025 Update.''
  ``Utility rate increases requested and approved totaled $9 billion in 
Q2 2025 and $29 billion in the first half of 2025, making 2025 a record 
year for utility rate increases.''
  In my home State of Florida, the largest power provider has requested 
the largest rate hike in history--$10 billion for most of the counties 
in the State.
  Here is an article I will submit for the Record from this month from 
the Energy & Policy Institute: ``Key decisions loom in Florida Power 
and Light's historic bid to raise rates by $10 billion.''
  I include the links to these three items in the Record:
  Https://powerlines.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/
0709_PowerLines_Rising-Utility-Bills-Q2-Update-2.pdf
  Https://energyandpolicy.org/key-decisions-loom-in-fpl-historic-bid-
to-raise-rates
  Https://www.americanprogress.org/
article/residents-in-at-least-41-states-and-washington-d-c-are-facing-
increased-electric-and-natural-gas-bills
  Mr. Speaker, the big, ugly bill is having a very harsh impact on the 
bottom lines of hardworking families, and now Republicans want to offer 
a package of bills that is going to make it worse, add insult to 
injury.
  They just can't stop providing solace for polluters. They have 
already gutted a lot of the tools that make energy more affordable, 
like clean energy tax credits, like trying to save on energy efficiency 
and things like that. However, what also adds insult to injury is--and 
I don't know why, but if Republicans are talking about they believe in 
fairness, they believe in permitting, they believe that we need all of 
the power generation we possibly can make, why do they stand idly by 
while the Trump administration wages war on a clean energy power 
source? Many of them are already permitted and constructed.
  In April, the administration issued a stop-work order for the Empire 
Wind offshore wind project surrounding New York. Even though the order 
was lifted in May, that delay cost the developer $955 million.
  The President is actively trying to revoke permits for the Revolution 
Wind project, which was fully permitted and 80 percent complete, 
supporting more than 2,500 U.S. jobs across

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construction, operations, shipbuilding, manufacturing. The project was 
just steps away from powering more than 350,000 homes in Rhode Island 
and Connecticut, but now that is at risk, so they are facing much 
higher bills.
  Just last week, the Interior Department asked a judge to cancel 
approval of the Maryland Offshore Wind project, a project over a decade 
in the making that had received all of its final permits from multiple 
Federal agencies and was expected to power over 700,000 homes.
  This just doesn't make sense to bring a package of bills and say: Oh, 
we are really concerned. They are not concerned. Rates are going up. 
They are canceling projects. They are throwing wrenches into cleaner, 
cheaper energy. This is really a giveaway to the fossil fuel companies. 
What other explanation can there be to sock it to hardworking people 
who need a break?
  They need a break. Groceries are too high. Their healthcare is being 
taken away, and now they are raising the rates of their utility bills.
  Mr. Speaker, I am all for cutting red tape, but what is happening 
here is detrimental to the folks we represent back home. It is not 
fair. It is not right. We need to do everything we can. These bills, 
this bill doesn't meet the moment. It is going to keep electricity 
bills going up, up, and up. I urge my colleagues to vote against this 
bill and get back to work on serious solutions for people's 
pocketbooks.

  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from 
Georgia (Mr. Allen), a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee and 
the vice chair of our Communications and Technology Subcommittee.
  Mr. ALLEN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman, our chairman, for 
yielding this time. I rise today in support of H.R. 3062, the Promoting 
Cross-Border Energy Infrastructure Act.
  Mr. Speaker, our hardworking energy developers need a clear framework 
to expand America's energy footprint, not more bureaucracy and 
uncertainty.
  My colleague talked about energy prices. Well, just look at the gas 
pump. I mean, the gas pump is down substantially.
  Here is the problem: With your baseload energy production, the past 
administration threw it into total chaos because we know that baseload 
is the only way that we can reliably produce the electricity and the 
demand in the future that we are going to need to expand this economy.
  I mean, we are in a race in AI with China. We have to produce more 
electricity. There was a war on baseload electricity, an absolute war. 
These people did not know if they were going to survive this war. Here 
is the deal: If you don't provide more baseload, your price is going to 
go up. We have to grow baseload in this country. The only way to reduce 
energy prices is competition and more energy.
  Every Member in this Chamber and the American people have witnessed 
the drastic consequence of this antidomestic energy policy championed 
by the previous administration, which led to record-high gas prices, 
severe job loss, and dependence on foreign oil.
  We have to fix this. We have a solution. You have got to fix these 
problems. I mean, I am really tired of having to fix all the problems 
that they created. We have got to do this if we are going to survive 
this thing.
  Under this House majority and administration, it is just no longer 
the American way. We promised the American people energy dominance. We 
had that just 6 years ago. Can you imagine? We were energy dominant. We 
set the price of a barrel of oil just 6 years ago.
  What happened?
  The bill before us today is a necessary, much-needed solution to 
ensure in the future we do not face the brunt of reckless executive 
actions like the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline.
  We have already heard about the horrible results of that, including 
the amount of money that was put forward, and now the developer is not 
going forward. That project would have provided a safe and reliable way 
to transport energy resources between the United States and our 
neighbor to the north, Canada. It would have created tens of thousands 
of jobs, as my colleague earlier said, strengthening our energy 
security and generating billions of revenue to boost economic growth.
  Don't listen to this chatter out here. Talk to the folks in the 
energy business. Let's give this back to the people in the energy 
business. They know how to produce energy. They are in business to 
produce energy. They know we have to have baseload.
  I am for all-in energy. Let's do it all. I think every one of us, we 
have to have more energy.

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  All of this progress that we made was cut short by the stroke of a 
pen just 4 years ago, leading the developer to abandon the XL pipeline, 
as I mentioned earlier. We cannot allow that to happen again.
  H.R. 3062 would require the President to receive congressional 
approval before revoking any previously issued permits related to the 
construction, connection, operation, or maintenance of oil or natural 
gas pipelines. We cannot let an administration put us in this position 
ever again.
  It would also streamline the permitting process for projects that 
connect U.S. energy resources with international markets, establishing 
a clear regulatory framework so energy developers can tackle projects 
with confidence and certainty.
  Mr. Speaker, I am proud to have supported the Promoting Cross-Border 
Energy Infrastructure Act in the Energy and Commerce Committee and look 
forward to getting it passed by the full House. I strongly urge a 
``yes'' vote.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the 
gentlewoman from Virginia (Ms. McClellan), who is a member of the 
committee.
  Ms. McCLELLAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank Ranking Member Pallone for the 
time.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to H.R. 3062, the 
Promoting Cross-border Energy Infrastructure Act.
  My concern is that this bill is going to be bad for our national 
security interests, in addition to leading to rising costs that will 
ultimately harm consumers.
  Currently, the State Department must sign off on all cross-border 
energy pipelines and power lines. However, this bill would remove that 
requirement so that FERC and the Department of Energy would have the 
final say on pipelines and power lines, respectively.
  While FERC and DOE could consult with other appropriate Federal 
agencies, such consultation is optional.
  If there is a disagreement between the State Department and the 
Department of Energy or the State Department and FERC, this bill says 
that our national security and diplomatic interests will take a back 
seat, and at the end of the day, FERC and DOE will make the final call 
on critical decisions that could impact international relations and 
national security issues.
  It is disconcerting to hear my colleagues on the other side of the 
aisle call national security and diplomatic interests political, as the 
committees of jurisdiction have traditionally taken great pains to keep 
politics out of those agencies. More importantly, FERC and DOE simply 
are not equipped to have the final say on national security and 
diplomatic decisions.
  As we have heard, this bill could also drive up costs for consumers 
at a time when many Americans are already facing rising costs and 
struggling to make ends meet.
  It will allow modifications to projects without any need for a permit 
or environmental review. This means a developer can radically expand a 
cross-border pipeline without any Federal review.
  It also specifically curtails the Federal review for pipelines from 
Texas to Mexico that carry natural gas to Mexican LNG facilities.
  These provisions would facilitate increasing LNG exports, which have 
been shown to drive up prices for American consumers.
  Mr. Speaker, for the sake of our consumers, our national security 
interests, and the future of our planet, I urge my colleagues to vote 
``no'' on H.R. 3062.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to say that this does not replace any need for 
permits, so the idea that there would be no environmental review or any 
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cross-border project approved by FERC or the State Department is just 
not accurate. That is not what the bill does.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to comment on what the gentleman from Georgia 
said. I know he is not here. I don't like to comment on people when 
they are not here, but I am not really being critical personally, just 
substantively.
  The gentleman from Georgia and my colleagues on the other side keep 
talking about how they are going to use this legislation to address 
another pipeline from Canada. References were made to Keystone. 
Keystone is dead.
  There is no reason to believe in any way that the Canadians are 
looking to work with us to build a pipeline and export more fossil 
fuels to the United States. Right now, we barely have a relationship 
with Canada because of the tariffs.
  The fact of the matter is that there is a tariff on Canadian exports. 
The bottom line, I guess, is the only way that we could get Canada to 
maybe send us more oil or gas is if we did what President Trump says 
and annex them and make them the 51st State. I am not an advocate for 
that. I don't think that is going to happen.
  It is unrealistic right now to talk about any kind of additional oil 
or gas coming to the United States through a Canadian pipeline. That is 
just not going to happen.
  What I think is really happening here is that there is going to be an 
effort, because of the way the bill reads, to double, triple, or even 
10 times the amount of gas that would go from the United States to 
Mexico, because the bill doesn't have any review with regard to that. 
If you have an existing pipeline, you can just double, triple, or 
quadruple it, or whatever, and send American gas to Mexico, where it is 
going to be made into LNG and shipped throughout the world.
  That is only going to increase our gas prices here in the United 
States. That is what is going to happen here.
  Again, we on the Democratic side have been stressing the fact that 
when it comes to energy prices, they are going through the roof. The 
Republicans don't seem to care at all about dealing with the issue. All 
they want to do is make it possible for more of our gas to go abroad.

  The way this bill is tailored, there would be basically no review, 
other than, I think, for 1,000 feet, or something, into the other 
country. The suggestion that somehow there is still going to be some 
significant review here before these pipelines are permitted is simply 
not the case, based on what this legislation says.
  Mr. Speaker, for all of these reasons, I ask my colleagues to vote in 
opposition to this bill.
  I will talk more about the two that are following, but the same is 
true: They are not helpful to Americans. They are going to increase 
energy prices. They are another indication that the Trump 
administration and House Republicans don't care at all about the 
increased costs of energy for the American consumer.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. GUTHRIE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity to be here and be here with 
my friend. Hopefully, we are going to be able to work on a lot of 
issues because we do care about the cost of electricity. I know they 
know we care about the cost of electricity.
  If the Keystone pipeline is not going to happen, which by 
Presidential fiat didn't happen, we have to worry about future 
situations when we are in Congress. We don't just legislate about the 
past. We have to legislate for the future as well, and this is 
important.
  Also, I am a big believer that we have to continue to have economic 
development and growth, and work in a fair way to make sure our 
products are being traded fairly as well with Canada and Mexico. This 
is an opportunity to do so.
  In America, the one thing we have is ample natural gas. As a matter 
of fact, the price of gas is historically low now because of the oil 
development in the Permian Basin. An offshoot of it is natural gas. 
Because it has driven the price of gas so low, we have ample natural 
gas.
  What we need to do and really need to work on--hopefully, we can work 
on together--is if you want to lower the price of electricity, which I 
assume we all do, is that the way you do that is by taking the natural 
gas that we have, converting it to electrons, and transmitting it out 
so people can have access to the electricity.

                              {time}  1320

  Mr. Speaker, that is where the expense is, not being able to permit, 
to move. To create electrons and then to move them is an expense, as 
well, as much as it is permitting the pipelines that we are talking 
about.
  We are in a battle of our time. We are in a battle where we can 
choose to follow the regulatory state of Europe. We can't out-regulate 
Europe. We need to out-innovate China.
  Mr. Speaker, this is the beginning of a series of bills. Hopefully, 
we can find a series of bills we can work on together. It needs to be 
all of us, together, focused on defeating China in terms of delivering 
the energy we need to do so. I encourage my colleagues to vote for this 
bill, and I thank Representative Fedorchak for bringing it forward.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Fine). All time for debate has expired.
  Pursuant to House Resolution 707, the previous question is ordered on 
the bill, as amended.
  The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on passage of the bill.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, further 
proceedings on this question will be postponed.

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