[Congressional Record Volume 171, Number 107 (Monday, June 23, 2025)]
[House]
[Pages H2868-H2869]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




             ACCESS TO SMALL BUSINESS INVESTOR CAPITAL ACT

  Mrs. WAGNER. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the 
bill (H.R. 2225) to permit a registered investment company to omit 
certain fees from the calculation of Acquired Fund Fees and Expenses, 
and for other purposes, as amended.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The text of the bill is as follows:

                               H.R. 2225

       Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of 
     the United States of America in Congress assembled,

     SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

       This Act may be cited as the ``Access to Small Business 
     Investor Capital Act''.

     SEC. 2. AMENDMENTS TO ACQUIRED FUND FEES AND EXPENSES 
                   REPORTING ON INVESTMENT COMPANY REGISTRATION 
                   STATEMENTS.

       (a) Definitions.--For purposes of this section:
       (1) Acquired fund.--The term ``Acquired Fund'' has the 
     meaning given the term in Forms N-1A, N-2, and N-3.
       (2) Acquired fund fees and expenses.--The term ``Acquired 
     Fund Fees and Expenses'' means the Acquired Fund Fees and 
     Expenses sub-caption in the Fee Table Disclosure.
       (3) Business development company.--The term ``business 
     development company'' has the meaning given the term in 
     section 2(a) of the Investment Company Act of 1940 (15 U.S.C. 
     80a-2(a)).
       (4) Fee table disclosure.--The term ``Fee Table 
     Disclosure'' means the fee table described in Item 3 of Form 
     N-1A, Item 3 of Form N-2, or Item 4 of Form N-3 (as 
     applicable, and with respect to each, in any successor fee 
     table disclosure that the Securities and Exchange Commission 
     adopts).
       (5) Form n-1a.--The term ``Form N-1A'' means the form 
     described in section 274.11A of title 17, Code of Federal 
     Regulations, or any successor regulation.
       (6) Form n-2.--The term ``Form N-2'' means the form 
     described in section 274.11a-1 of title 17, Code of Federal 
     Regulations, or any successor regulation.
       (7) Form n-3.--The term ``Form N-3'' means the form 
     described in section 274.11b of title 17, Code of Federal 
     Regulations, or any successor regulation.
       (8) Registered investment company.--The term ``registered 
     investment company'' means an investment company, as defined 
     under section 3(a) of the Investment Company Act of 1940, 
     registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission under 
     such Act.
       (b) Excluding Business Development Companies From Acquired 
     Fund Fees and Expenses.--A registered investment company may, 
     on any investment company registration statement filed 
     pursuant to section 8(b) of the Investment Company Act of 
     1940 (15 U.S.C. 80a-8(b)), omit from the calculation of 
     Acquired Fund Fees and Expenses those fees and expenses that 
     the investment company incurred indirectly as a result of 
     investment in shares of one or more Acquired Funds that is a 
     business development company.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentlewoman from 
Missouri (Mrs. Wagner) and the gentleman from California (Mr. Sherman) 
each will control 20 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from Missouri.


                             General Leave

  Mrs. WAGNER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks 
and include extraneous material on the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentlewoman from Missouri?
  There was no objection.
  Mrs. WAGNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of H.R. 2225, the Access to 
Small Business Investor Capital Act. I thank Congressman Sherman and 
the bipartisan cosponsors for their work on this bill.
  This is a narrowly tailored fix to a longstanding problem that is 
hurting business development companies, or BDCs, which Congress 
originally created to help small and midsized businesses access 
capital.

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  Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, the SEC rule called Acquired Fund Fees 
and Expenses, or AFFE, requires funds that invest in BDCs to count the 
BDC internal expenses as part of their own expense ratio. The result is 
a higher reported cost, even though those fees aren't actually paid by 
the investor.
  This has led many funds to avoid BDCs altogether, and it has kept 
BDCs out of key investment indexes. That means fewer dollars flowing to 
small businesses on Main Street.
  H.R. 2225 fixes this. It allows funds to exclude expenses related to 
BDCs from their AFFE calculation, while still disclosing their 
investment in BDCs. This improves both accuracy and transparency. This 
is a smart and bipartisan solution that removes an intended barrier to 
capital formation without reducing investor protections.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the bill, and I reserve 
the balance of my time.
  Mr. SHERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, at the outset, I thank the chair and the ranking member 
for getting us to this stage on this bill.
  I also thank the cosponsors of this bill. Just from the committee, we 
have some 13 Democrats and 8 Republican members of the Financial 
Services Committee to cosponsor this bill. I especially thank the 
original cosponsors, Mr. Huizenga, Mr. Garbarino, and Ms. Bynum, for 
their efforts in bringing us to this point.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a bipartisan bill. Like all of the most 
fascinating bills that come to the floor of the House, it deals with 
accounting. Like the most important bills that come to the floor of the 
House, it deals with accounting. In this case, it deals with accounting 
for the expense ratios of mutual funds.
  This bipartisan bill, H.R. 2225, the Access to Small Business 
Investor Capital Act, makes a narrow technical correction of the 
Federal securities rules that had a major unintended consequence over 
the last two decades.
  In 1980, Congress created Business Development Companies to 
facilitate capital formation and get that capital to small- and medium-
sized businesses. I want to point out that, as we have had tighter and 
tighter bank regulations, banks have been reluctant to lend money to 
small businesses except where their risks are guaranteed by the Small 
Business Administration. SBA loans are, of course, limited.
  We need BDCs to provide investment and to provide management 
assistance to growing businesses that are often underserved by 
traditional lending institutions.
  By law, a BDC must invest at least 70 percent of their assets in 
small- and medium-sized domestic companies.

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Over time, BDCs have filled that critical gap in our capital markets by 
funding businesses and industries in geographies often overlooked by 
other financial institutions. BDCs are often the first institutional 
investors to step in.
  This bill will play an important role in getting BDCs the capital 
that they then put into small- and medium-sized businesses. 
Calculations are that $120 billion more will be available to invest by 
BDCs because we expect a 30 percent increase in total investment. That 
is because this bill opens the door to mutual fund investments in BDCs.
  Despite the success of BDCs, in 2006, the SEC adopted a rule that 
inadvertently discouraged capital flows into BDCs, constraining their 
ability to serve small business. The rule is part of SEC's Acquired 
Fund Fees and Expenses framework. AFFE requires mutual funds and other 
investment vehicles that invest in BDCs to disclose as management fees 
of the mutual fund the expenses and the overhead of the BDC. This is in 
radical opposition to how similar investments are treated.
  If a mutual fund invests in the bank, the mutual fund, of course, 
lists as an expense of the mutual fund the expenses of the mutual fund. 
It does not list the overhead of the bank as if that is an expense of 
running the mutual fund.
  Banks and BDCs are two of the major types of institutions that make 
business investments and business loans. The double counting of BDCs by 
counting those as expenses of the mutual funds simply makes it 
impossible for mutual funds to invest in BDCs.
  The SEC rule artificially inflates the expense ratios of those mutual 
funds that are used to invest in BDCs, and so many of them don't. The 
result is misleading. Investors see a fund's expenses as higher than 
they actually are simply because the fund decides to invest in BDCs. 
This perception has led many fund managers to exclude BDCs from their 
portfolio, not because of performance but because of this distorted 
regulatory accounting.
  The intent of this rule to provide transparency was well-meaning. The 
execution, when applied to BDCs, has been counterproductive.
  Research by U.S. and international financial professors shows that 
after BDCs were removed from major U.S. stock indexes, as a consequence 
of this misguided AFFE rule, BDCs experienced a 29 percent to 33 
percent lower investment growth as compared to similar potential 
investments.
  The effects were not limited to the financial sector. Companies that 
rely on BDCs saw lower job creation with employment falling by between 
1.5 to 6.5 percentage points compared to pre-exclusion levels.
  The rule also fails to recognize the unique structure and mission of 
BDCs. Unlike passive funds, BDCs are actively managed and intentionally 
incur higher costs in order to provide tailored investment and advisory 
services to the small businesses that they invest in.
  This model creates long-term value, but the AFFE rule unfairly 
penalizes it. This is, of course, a departure. The rule is inconsistent 
with the way the AFFE rule applies to mutual fund investments in rates 
and, more importantly, the way it applies to mutual fund investments in 
banks.

  Because of this rule's miscounting, BDCs were removed from several 
stock indexes, as I pointed out earlier. If the SEC had the benefit of 
hindsight, I think it is unlikely that they would have adopted this 
rule, which contradicts the rule that they have for investments in 
banks and rates. That is why Congress needs to reverse this.
  The Access to Small Business Investor Capital Act fixes this by 
allowing BDCs' acquired fund fees and expenses from disclosures, while 
maintaining transparency around the BDC management fees and costs. This 
restores fairness and aligns the regulatory disclosures with economic 
reality and gives investors a clear view of their actual costs. 
Importantly, it does so without rolling back investor protections or 
weakening SEC oversight.
  Mr. Speaker, I would point out that this bill will provide $120 
billion of capital to our small- and medium-sized businesses without a 
penny of cost to the American taxpayer and without any risk to the 
American taxpayer.
  This bipartisan legislation will open the door to more investment in 
BDCs, thereby unlocking capital for small- and medium-sized businesses.
  The most important thing that our financial institutions and the most 
important thing that our capital markets can do is provide capital for 
growing American enterprise, particularly small- and medium-sized 
businesses.
  Business Development Companies play a vital role, and I am proud to 
work with a bipartisan group of Members. As I pointed out earlier, we 
have a substantial number of cosponsors, 25 in all, including 13 
Democrats on the Committee.
  We have seen bipartisan support for this bill, not only in this 
Congress but in prior Congresses. This is the Congress in which we 
actually have to get it adopted. The bipartisan legislation will open 
more investments and unlock capital for small businesses, as I have 
said.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this bill, and I reserve 
the balance of my time.
  Mrs. WAGNER. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. SHERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to point out that I think this is the best thing 
that Congress can do without risk or cost to the American taxpayer. It 
makes sure that small- and medium-sized businesses have access to 
capital.
  With the BDC methodology, BDCs not only provide the capital but also 
provide the advice that so many growing businesses need.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank the original cosponsors that I mentioned earlier 
and all the cosponsors of this bill. I once again thank the chair and 
the ranking member for getting us to this point.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this bill, and I yield 
back the balance of my time.
  Mrs. WAGNER. Mr. Speaker, in closing, this is a smart and bipartisan 
solution that removes an unintended barrier to capital formation 
without reducing investor protections.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 2225, and I yield 
back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the 
gentlewoman from Missouri (Mrs. Wagner) that the House suspend the 
rules and pass the bill, H.R. 2225, as amended.
  The question was taken; and (two-thirds being in the affirmative) the 
rules were suspended and the bill, as amended, was passed.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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